/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9634699
is she no longer stream on twitch?

>>9634759
She hasn't said anything to us in the West yet, but she just came back in earnest to the Chinese viewers, so it may be a moment, assuming management hasn't completely shut that down.

>>9634699
who

>>9634835
The cutest gremlin

Is it that commie bitch?
didn't she take a break off social media for a month once she landed to US from Canada

>>9634879
Hecatia a cute!

>>9634817
what was her average viewers when she was still part of hololive on twitch? and what her average after she become hecatia?
is it such a massive drop that streaming on twitch is no longer worth it?

>>9634861
>>9634930
give me the full body

Don't care, Winnie's purging the Chinese entertainment industry anyway.

I hope her tofu dreg house collapses and she has to go sew Nike shoes together for the rest of her life

>>9634879
>Everything I don't like is le communist conspiracy!
/pol/ is that way retard.

Ogey Zhang

>>9635003

>>9634699
>believes bilibili
>threw Holo under the bus
>China now limiting gaming hours
Bugs losing is always funny

>>9634969
She had a few hundred during hololive, but I don't think it ever got past 10k+ ever. Afterwards it was a little lower, but still in the hundreds. Bilibili probably had a larger numbers for sure though.

>>9635003
>>9635061
You need to see how well it moves
>>9635106
>believes bilibili
>threw Holo under the bus
Her branch was cut because of Yuehua (with a fully-Chinese idol group) and her main platform (bb) trying to pull the rug out from under Hololive. Nothing she could do.
>>9634969
Couldn't say. I didn't check the Chinese scene directly until HoloCN went down.

>>9634817
If by management you mean Xi, then yes, Twitch is blocked by the great firewall.

>>9635264
>If by management you mean Xi
No, I mean her actual company-hired managers. She's not an indie.
>Twitch is blocked by the great firewall.
She doesn't live in China.

>>9634759
She rebroadcasts to Twitch.

>>9635106
China is also slowing down the approval for games foreign games to be sold in their country as well which sucks for streamers there wanting to play the newest releases.

>>9634699
kill yourself, chink insect. nobody watches your ching chong shit

>>9634969
this stream's vod has gotten 4962 views so far.
to put in perspective Mori just did a live stream about the same length with a total of 90,000 views on the vod with average viewer total of 5329

So we could make a simple ratio and get her average viewers for the stream

5329/90,000 = x/4962
x = 294
So she probably had an average of 294 viewers this stream on bilibili.
she had about anya levels of views on twitch as her old alias

>>9635351
>China is also slowing down the approval for games foreign games to be sold in their country
Well they have to be careful. You never know where some radical, counterrevolutionary software engineer might put in an easter egg with the Hong Kong flag, and "hurt the feelings" of all billion Chinese citizens. They are a very fragile people, you know, so they have to be very careful.

>>9635405
>5329/90,000 = x/4962
>Can we see that contrasted with another bilibili stream? The platform has plenty of quirks.

>>9635106
Not just video games. As >>9635021 mentioned Winnie is cracking down on all aspects of social life:

> Songs that have English lyrics are no longer allowed on Chinese broadcast & television
> All entertainers must undergo studying of Xi's ideology
> Restrictions of idol fandoms and distribution of idol goods. 5000+ idol fandom fanclubs banned. Fandoms will now have to be underground
> Stronger regulations of public broadcasts, anything on the CCP's radars will lead to the show being stopped and cancelled
> Banning of popularity contests / voting for idols. Banning audition programs for idols. 青春有你3 tv show forcibly canned.
> Banning of idol videos in Chinese internet portals, mass purge of existing idol content in internet
> Restrictions of uploaded dance videos (esp. Kpop videos)
> Albums/singles purchase limited to one per person
> Restrictions of songs allowed to sing for karaoke
> Banning of songs related to social criticism, or anger related to one's social circumstance
> Restrictions on video games. Minors banned from playing on the weekdays. 1 hour limit on weekends. (Pro gaming and esports likely to also be restricted in the future)
> English education and exams banned in Shanghai
> Banning usage of foreign teaching materials or textbooks
> Begin instruction and exams of Xi ideology in regular schools. Mao ideology is no longer taught
> Banning of private education. Any private institutions or academies will lead to punishment of the student, parents and tutor
> Crackdowns on Chinese entertainers. Fan Bingbing imprisoned.
> If entertainers run away from China, their identity is removed from all internet portals and all assets are seized

Yeah good luck to former HoloCN members, I doubt they can survive under this environment.

>>9635532
Yogurt resides in the T-space, so there may be some hope for her.

>>9635628
Given the way that's going, I'm predicting an annexation by 2027. Artia's in the safest position, since she lives in the West, but we don't know about her family.

>>9634969
https://twitchtracker.com/hecatiaz
https://twitchtracker.com/artia_hololive

>>9635532
If this is all true then China's on the way to becoming a North Korea-tier hermit kingdom backwater.

>>9635765
>on the way to becoming a North Korea-tier hermit kingdom backwater.
At this point, it can't. It's too powerful and too influential for things like an inward turn to have no effect on others. They'd gravitate towards that, much like how the world is currently centered on the U.S' obscenely-rich domestic economy.

>>9635719
So yeah, she had more viewers in Hololive after all

>>9635532
I feel that go full Mao only works if the people are uneducated. I feel there will be some backlash sooner or later but who know how strong is Xi's power

>>9635813
Rome and the US and the Soviet Union were powerful too.

>>9635765
Except the EU, CA and AUS are basically bowing down to China at this point, and USA/UK can't do much either

>>9635964
Here today, gone tomorrow.

>>9635964
>bowing down to China
australia may as well be a chinese colony at this point

>>9635813
Wait till they turn their economy inward. That'll be an eye-opener since the whole damn world gets everything made there and factories take years to build.

>>9635852
>I feel there will be some backlash sooner or later
They're betting on their ability to prevent revolts and subversion. They've invested a ton into that.
>but who know how strong is Xi's power
This entire thing is a massive gamble. He already had rivals, but now he's assuming full power over the country. If he can back this up with effective movements (Hong Kong, Taipei, African economic anchoring, GDP stabilization, etc.), his rivals will hardly be able to move against him. With Hong Kong going so smoothly, he's likely trying to make use of this new clout and momentum by redesigning the Chinese experience and reorienting common values.
>>9635891
The only ones to turn inward were the U.S and the Soviet Union. The U.S greatly benefited from that move, and I think it's what China's going for.

>>9635852
All those who had objections have since left a long time ago.

>>9635813
China will have economic influence the same way oil states have had influence in the past, but the US ideologically captured the world due to its cultural industry and exports. China can't replicate what the americans achieved because american entertaiment was never a tightly controlled propaganda effort, call it memes all you like but americans are genuinely more free than the chinese and that freedom is reflected in their cultural works that often contradict each other because there's more than one political leaning.

>>9636034
They're currently leveraging that, yeah. Most states are afraid of the implications, so they bend the knee. China's also trying to move up the chain, so they're passing the manufacturing puck on to Africa.

>>9636061
Yeah I'm sure nothing will bad will happen from >>9635532
, China number one.

>>9636126
Again, it's a gamble.

>>9635673
artias back in china

>>9635106
limiting children's multiplayer gaming hours on weekdays. Artia is retarded but not a child

>>9635852
If anything, the Social Credit system is keeping all of them at bay. Sooner or later, the west will have the same socio-behavioural control scheme to pacify its populace by attacking their sources of livelihood and trade. The vaccine passports will evolve into something akin to the social credit system and there's nothing yoy can do about it

>>9636190
>artias back in china
Oh, no...

>>9636144
It's a gamble in the same sense that playing Russian roulette with a Glock is a gamble.

>>9635964
Bowing to Chinese money
Its not like Canada is going to ban English lyrics in music lol

>>9635532
Well, I can't say I'm that surprised since it was pretty clear what direction Xi wanted to stir China in for a while now, but my god.
As much of a goddamn pain it might have been, I'm very, very, very glad Hololive got their asses out of China before this shit started getting put in place.

>>9635532
I know this is bullshit because Kuri streamed minecraft after people started talking about these rules and her BGM includes English songs.

also damn chinese esports are dead as fuck now. Where are their LoL teams going to get their 14 year old ADC prodigies now?

>>9636255
That's off. The whole thing is a stress-test for their rebellion prevention systems. If they buckle, it'll mean infighting in the party and an active rebellion the other major nations wouldn't dare miss out on.
If they don't, it sets the precedent that China's leader can do whatever he desires without limit.

>>9636242
she was actually homesick too, crazy right. She had a test stream and is still able to broadcast on Twitch to some extent

>>9636304
Public broadcast meaning in television. Someone playing songs on streams aren't catchable (yet.)

>>9636349
The leader being able to do what he wants does not magically mean the country will be successful, and if a country is this neurotically preoccupied with preventing rebellion then obviously it has no future.

>>9635532
There's a billion people in China, I'm sure they'll survive

>>9636399
If DMCA algorithms can nick streamers then the Chinese government can do it. and they will.

>>9636461
Just a matter of time I guess? These advancements have all been very recent

>>9636461
are there any articles that talk about this english lyric ban? I can't find it and I'm curious

>>9635532
The streaming regulations earlier this year didn't amount to anything but this shit would've killed Holo's business as idols

>>9636399
I'm just going to call this bullshit, because I've seen multiple threads saying China has "definitely banned this thing on bilibili and introduced these rules that will kill vtubers there for good." Hell, months ago people said "they banned anything sexual" and here we are posting in a thread about Tia showing off her body in a tiny bikini, so clearly that wasn't even true. Because of that, I have doubts about any long greentext claiming to be "new rules about chinese entertainment"

>>9636406
>The leader being able to do what he wants does not magically mean the country will be successful
No, it just means increased executive power and efficiency. The second they have to deal with transfers of power, even within the party, they'll have to either codify powers, or accept that they won't be able to peacefully or consistently maintain it.
>and if a country is this neurotically preoccupied with preventing rebellion then obviously it has no future.
This is different. It's one thing if the people are already upset and the government has to quell rebellions. In this case, we're seeing a case where the state actively provokes its citizens because it has the first truly personal means of preventing rebellion on any level.
>>9636575
Rules are applied in much the same way as those of YT. If it causes trouble, or comes from someone who's already on thin ice, they apply.

The Chinese language sounds so disgusting. How can people stand to listen to it for more than 2 minutes? I refuse to believe they're saying actual words but rather just moaning and groaning random exhalations that come through their mouths.

>>9636575
It's a thing they can conveniently use to hit people being far too obviously doing shit.
Just like the USA justifying blown random people up with the justification of them being "terrorists"
If you have legal backing to do something you can more easily whack someone with the law and suffer minimal legal backlash as the government's not doing anything illegal!
Then you got FeelGoodLaw which is unenforceable but keeps the base happy as OURSIDE is doing something GOODPROPER even if it will never be enforced.

>>9636658
>The Chinese language sounds so disgusting.
It grows on you as you listen.
>I refuse to believe they're saying actual words but rather just moaning and groaning random exhalations that come through their mouths.
That's a Millennial/Zoomer thing. They speak sloppily. The older generation doesn't like it either.

>>9634699
>>9634759
The last time she streamed (less than a month ago) she said she would go back to Twitch if she gets banned from bili. And also that her modeler did a nude version of her model for her..

>>9636716
>Spoiler

>>9635532
is any of this actually real or is it "China bans Winnie the pooh" again?

>>9636759
Damn that is nice

>>9636778
Some Yes. Some No.
The glory of mixing propaganda is that you got enough truths through and the lies will be accepted as well!

>>9636514
[Not the guy who posted that list.]
Neither can I. Just that they are cracking down on songs with culturally subversive or degenerate lyrics in karaoke venues.

So yeah, basically songs with English lyrics then.

>>9636068
Left or were "reeducated"

>>9636514
>>9636778
They were mostly on the news in Korea. Not sure about english sources
https://news.kbs.co.kr/mobile/news/view.do?ncd=5256681

>>9636575
anyone inside the firewall can find the source article for this on nrta to verify?
https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-entertainment-business-religion-china-62dda0fc98601dd5afa3aa555a901b3f

seems to me, this is a call back to the cultural revolution but more aligned with Xi's idea of culture

>>9636716
>>9636759
>spoiler
why are chinese so horny...

Holy fucking shit what a model If I wasn't a man of god I would have drowned myself by now from the massive amount of cum I would have excreted

>>9636329
If that means Chinese not winning TI after what happens to Wings, good. Although FY and Maybe definitely deserve a title

>>9635765
This is probably for the best. Capitalism is the thing that turned China into a monster, so going back to Cultural Revolution 2.0 will cut off their capitalist customers for good. It's Economic Suicide.

>>9634699
When she tugged on that bikini top and had her titties flop up and down... that was mindblowing

TIA LOVE

>>9637221
She had touhou loli porn in one of her browser tabs on one of her first streams as hecatia, lol

>>9635532
This is the reward for Mr. Zhang for his undying loyalty to the God-Emperor Winnie the Pooh. YOUR ENTIRE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY GETS NVKED LOL. Even D*$ney, Hollywood, NBA and WWE got fucking betrayed. Coco did the right thing, creating HoloEN to get Hololive out of that shithole dystopia. And Artia made another colossal mistake, coming back

>>9636575
the whole "vtubers are kill" thing was in response to rules bilibili made, like youtube has concerning sexual display and a few added ones that allow the platform to cover its own ass if the ccp breathes down their neck, it's all just legal shit.
the new rules of chinese entertainment are direct from the ccp themselves, but it's unsure if vtubers are high profile enough to get caught up in it, we'll see what happens.

>>9638752
since she's not even living in china, do you think artia should pander to EN crowd more?

>>9638921
Whether it is high or low profile does not matter. Auths gonna auth.

>>9638930
Didn't she tweet about coming back? And if she did, it's the worst possible time. In the middle of a fucking cultural revolution where entertainers are sent to camps en masse. She's better off staying in the West

>bilibili
more importantly, literally who?

>>9639137
what i mean is the post i answered to was half right, the first time claim that vtubers are dead because of those website rules is bullshit, but the new ccp mandates might actually be a problem.

How come she gets a more erotic costume on buggybuggy than Holo gets on Youtube.

>>9638921
>>9639183
a lot of the rules anon posted are misleading and fabricated or they don't really affect vtubers at all. Most vtubers are adults, so the gaming rule doesn't affect them(only affects minors). Songs that have english lyrics being banned/restrictions on karaoke/dance videos is just a lie and the anon that posted this basically admitted that he's merely inferring because a rule about "songs with controversial lyrics" or whatever and took it to mean "English". Popularity contest shit is not vtuber content, only numberfag channels would be killed by that. And half the things anon mentioned aren't even about entertainment, so they have literally nothing to do with vtubers(what an 8 year old is learning in school doesn't really affect some rando 27 year old Chinese girl from streaming herself playing Genshin). None of this would actually affect vtubers, as far as I'm aware, there aren't many full on music group vtubers that are relying on the same tactics groups like BTS use, and that's really the only rule here that would actually matter to them since limitations on how much merch/albums people can buy would mean some people might not make as much money off merch anymore.

>>9635964
US has puppet Biden in office. He literally is owned by CCP at this point. Xi has little resistance on the global stage now.

>>9636778
The thing is, it is real but some of it do not really enforced by the government. It's usually enforced for high profile artist/celeb/businessman.
For example, China actually had a law that outlaw artworks that "promoting LGBT+ values", but their Yuri/Yaoi genre manhua or novel are pretty big there. These law only enforced recently to catch some writer who criticized Chinese government who happens also writing LGBT smuts, and she charged with those laws.

>>9639311
honestly i gleaned most of the information about the rules from lurking in /vg/, so i'll take your word on what rules don't apply to vtubers.
but aren't they pushing against idolizing famous people and profit driven entertainment or some shit? or are vtubers just not big enough to get hit by that?
i'm not arguing for the sake of arguing by the way, i find the new developments regarding china geniunely interesting, i want to see how far they take it.

>>9639311
>a lot of the rules anon posted are misleading and fabricated or they don't really affect vtubers at all
For now.
I remember this excuse years ago from some older gen kpop fans, that kpop is not big enough to warrant Chinese government's attention.

>>9636844
Distinguish them then.

>>9638683
Not a fan of Artia/Tia/etc. but that's based.

She still sounds like a 7 year old growing out her teeth.

>>9639492
from what it looks like there, they're not necessarily targeting the people making the content in terms of that, they're targeting fans instead through methods like limiting how much you can buy, where people can talk about these things, stopping popularity contests/things that'd exploit die hard fans for money and influence. The only example i've seen from looking this up though is just with KPOP groups though since these rules seem to be stemming from BTS being insanely popular there and they don't know how to manage it.

>>9638683
>She had touhou loli porn in one of her browser tabs on one of her first streams as hecatia
https://www.twitch.tv/hecatiaz/clip/LaconicConfidentCocoaMingLee-VQE20IQYI_hfjOcT
Typical two faced chinaman.

>>9639634
Fuck that model is nice. That smile... that fucking smile...

>>9640004
It's gonna get banned soon.

>>9639490
Yeah people too young to remember the old USSR are misunderstanding how this works. The party sets rules that seem ridiculous, and which many people casually ignore. As long as you are a small timer black markets and technically illegal stuff is a part of everyone’s life. Until you piss off the wrong official. Or someone decides to report you. Or someone starts a hate campaign and they can point out you are breaking the law. Or the government has its own project you are competing with. Or they want to just seize your business entirely.

They don’t send secret police out to monitor kids internet habits. They randomly do things like that to keep up appearances but the actual chance of someone being caught is tiny. But it means everyone is a criminal. And if you piss off the powers that be they are justified in punishing you, the law is very clear you see. The real enforcement is brainwashed idiots like the ones who harassed Coco. They are the ones who report people with wrong think to the authorities. It’s your neighbors you used to worry about. Now it’s internet schizos. So sure no one gives a shit about Artia and she can stream to her nothing audience and nothing will happen. She just better watch what she says and fall in line. People much richer and more powerful than her have fallen off the face of the earth for months when they got on the wrong side of the government.

>>9640274
the USSR's situation is different from that of modern China. They didn't have the infrastructure or technology to become a true "1984" dystopia, hence everything relying on your neighbour betraying you. But China has. Facial Recognition AI, and the Social Credit System wherein you are directly and immediately penalized if you did anything that pissed off the government.

>>9635061
From respected hololive gremlin to official twitch thot body=money

Yikes

>>9636304
Isn't Kuri in Taiwan though

So she went full coomer bait?

>>9640646
This would be fantastic. Imagine if all the thugs and thieves breaking into cars and robbing stores were tracked and banned from entering cities. It is an embarrassment when police make appeals to the public for tips and information after the cringe had occurred when we have this technology. I'll take a safe smart city anyday over the shitholes of LA and San Francisco

>>9640683
That is a good evolution

>>9640969
The US already have the tech, see also the NSA. The problem is the ABUSE that comes with such surveillance power. Lucklily in the US everyone knows 1984 (making any form of surveillance abuse extremely unpopular) and you can do anything, even mock the government, unless you post terroristic threats or child porn. In China it's exploited to its full dystopian potential in the form of Social Credit. Say or do anything remotely against the all-powerful State and you and your family can get auto-banned from university or even a decent job.

>>9641194
how is becoming a filly blown whore an evolution

>>9641244
It's what these Chicom Cumdumpsters deserve. Now all we need is for them to embrace complete whoredom and sell their naked bodies to the highest bidder.

This fucking place clearly has the memory of a goldfish. That or tits make anything forgivable, goddamn.

>>9635532
Source: glowie Falun Gong websites

>>9641841
Is it really forgiveness if it's pure hate sex with absolute hatred fueling my boner?

>>9641896
Hi, Zhang. Xi finally give you enough Social Credit to post on Gweilo websites?

>>9635532
>Banning of private education. Any private institutions or academies will lead to punishment of the student, parents and tutor

lmao they banned cram schools and it's a based decision. Every Chinese parents forces their kid to attend these schools for ungodly hours and government decided it's too much study for kids. You only hear about it being a supposedly Evil thing because a lot of these schools were funded by America so they lost profit.

>>9635532
>Crackdowns on Chinese entertainers. Fan Bingbing imprisoned.

He literally committed tax fraud.

>>9635021
You aren't a niang pao are you?

*rtia apologists deserve the rope

TIAAA! MY QUEEN!

>>9635532

>>9642472

>>9642252
I don't give a fuck about sissies or kpop. i just love laughing at schizo Zhangs suffering as their reward for their nationalism is Xitler cracking down on their entertainment. You get what you deserve.

/pol/fags seem to be unable to show up in threads about Vtubers who not Japanese or English

>>9642359
Cuter than Kson

>>9634699
Haha, Gook bitch ran back to pandering to bugs when she got exposed as the two faced bitch that she is huh? I hope her social credit score goes to oblivion and she gets deported to Australia.

>>9636222
youre fucking retarded lmao
DJ4N2

>>9636061
china may have a lot of people but the rest of the world still outnumbers them. if they sincerely go for annexation of taiwan, there is no fucking way a war isn't going to happen.

>>9641327
facts

>>9643213
in your fucking dreams LOL

ITT /pol/fags seething over the fact that people can like VTubers who not Japanese or English

>>9643213
They both looks like shit anon, i spit on their faces

>>9643932
i dont have a problem with people liking vtubers who speak other languages than japanese/english, i dont even mind if they're chinese. i mind if theyre braindead wolfwarrior backstabbing bitches who think theyre justified in their shitty behavior.

>>9643932
ITT HoloChuds seething over the fact that people can like VTubers who not Japanese or English

>>9643966
You mean cum right?

>>9644040
Trump lost that the truth /pol/fag

>>9643932
>>9644112
Shut it, Zhang. Get back to making cheap shit for Wally World, your Oshi is currently busy enjoying some Gweilo cock.

>>9642359
Wtf this is tia? How old is she?

>>9643797
>Taiwan?
>South or North?
>We already beat the gooks one time! We can do it again!

>>9644276
>muh chink boogeyman
t.HoloChud

>>9644288
Looks 35+ to me.

>>9635532
>> Begin instruction and exams of Xi ideology in regular schools. Mao ideology is no longer taught
This was already happenning before, wasn't it?

>>9635532
Jesus

>>9634699
Doesn't this break the character design guideline?

>>9644464
The guideline is only there to fuck you over when you become a "problem" until then it' not going to be used.

>>9644330
It hurts to know your Oshi enjoys fantasying about Gweilo cock, don't it Zhang.

>>9644464
Don't believe everything you read on reddit. US will be always two steps ahead of China when it comes to Puritanism

>>9644464
the rule of thumb in commie country that as long as you don't try to overthrow the goverment or thread to their power, they don't give a fuck about you, anime is niche, vtuber is anime's niche, most of normies don't give a fuck about it

>>9634699
>>9635061
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>9640683
Not that much different from her nemesis desu

Why do I want to fuck a gremlin

>>9644288
>>9644343
Isn't that just because of the lighting?

>>9645080
Anon, she has some wrinkles on her skin...

1938 nanking meatball festival

I miss Artia-Moona autism...

>>9642359
this can be improve with make up. she got good foundation for a face.

>>9640969
>Will we next create false gods to rule over us? How proud we have become, and how blind.

>Chynastream
Pass

>>9644933
Imagine a kson collab. Just to fuck with some heads.

>>9644600
what is gweilo, anon?

>>9646664
Caucasic people

VThot yikes

>>9634699
>Chinktia
Nah. If I want to watch chink, I got Niji EN who are better than her in every way.
>Stream exclusively on Bilibili
I can't stand even 1 second on that fucking site. What a fucking mess it is.
>Rebroadcast to Twitch
What's the point if she's not talking English or even interact with English chat

>>9636034
While it would hurt economies, it's not the end of the world by any means. America domesticizes a lot of its industries already just in case something like China losing its mind happens, also most of the resources and factory work is done offshores of china anyways in places like vietnam and other SEA countries.

>>9635532
This seems like a great leap forward moment. Even in a totalitarian regime, you have to keep your populous somewhat happy to stay productive. Removing and restricting forms of entertainment will lead to dissatisfaction and in time to revolt. Imagine CCP falling because they banned games and idols.

>>9644807
>they don't give a fuck about you
That's Deng Xiaoping-Hu Jintao era China. But Xitler is a different motherfucker. He's genuinely attempting to become the next Mao Zedong. And now that he has the tech to implement 1984 he will.

>>9647232
Xitler's policies tanking the global economy would be a good thing. (((Neoliberals))) like Fukuyama need to learn the hard way that introducing capitalism to a dystopian shithole does not bring democracy.

>>9647735
Wouldn't surprise me, China has a pretty long history of constantly gaining huge amount of power in an attempt to swing their dick around and then fucking itself.

>>9647755
>introducing capitalism to a dystopian shithole does not bring democracy.
no, but it did improve their way of life and everyone's in the world for a good while.

It wasn't until China started going full retard that it began to affect everyone, but something like that would have happened to matter what. We leave the middle east alone for a few years and they blow up our towers.

>>9636190
>artias back in china
Why the hell did she do that? Now it's only a matter of time until some anti gets her in real trouble.

>>9647735
>revolt
I imagine they ranting on internet, because chink netizens have mass majority can possibly outweigh CCP rules (that ofc until CCP decide to mass shutdown entire social media, then no more peaceful discussions).

>>9643797
>china may have a lot of people but the rest of the world still outnumbers them.
What, you think most of the world actually cares? Even America doesn't care all that much. Everyone knows they'll be abandoned if there's real chance of a war breaking out. China just doesn't want to commit to mad-dogging over it just yet.

I wonder, who she will backstab this time.

>>9652344

>>9648692
Which was a fucking deception. Letting China collapse from Mao's stupidity was the better choice. Instead we should have invested in democratic powers like Japan, India and SEA, while permanently letting a Communist threat fuck itself. But (((neoliberals))) and faggots like Fukuyama gonna be colossal idiots.

>>9634699
Pippa la concha de tu madre

>>9652995
>m-muh liberals
it was cheap labor you dumb faggot, it wasn't a political move, it was wanting to get access to billions of dumb fucks willing to work for pennies.

>>9652827
And i'm queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor

>>9653155
Just choose India and SEA then. it was clear that (((neoliberals))) and Fukuyamafags wanted to test the theory that introducing capitalism to a commie dystopia will make them democratic.

And years later we know the result.

EPIC FAIL.

>>9653155
Which nowadays that cuck is walking back from. A key Regan doctrine contributor, an evangelical for benefits of unregulated market, now wants to endorse free gibs and state-controlled public utilities.

>>9642472
Kek I'm from SEA you Chinigger. Literally the whole globe hates China, but feel free to make a false equivalence blaming all criticism on "CIA propaganda"

>>9653485
>introducing capitalism to a commie dystopia will make them democratic.
we were already doing that for years.
>use India or SEA
doesn't have the same infrastructure and environment. SEA is what we're using now days, but they have a lower population making it less profitable overall, and its not in a geographically rich area like China is.
China was already primed for industry as well, as opposed to India. Although there's a reason anyone in Engineering or CS hates India as well now.

>>9653861
>Kek I'm from SEA
>Literally the whole globe hates China
Africans and South Americans don't give a fuck. They're investing.

>>9654174
>South Americans
Not there but they are starting to hate them because of what is socialism doing on their countries

>>9653485
>>9652995
To clarify, the theory was introducing liberal democracy was a benefit to developing states, as in countries still in the stone age or medieval period, they will be more economically successful than those who adopted communism late in their development like Egypt and the USSR .

In some sense it was true but the guy did a fucking 180 after 2008 so I wouldn't rely on him to be good resource for defining neoconservative nor liberal

>>9654277
That has nothing to do with China.

>>9654310
DYRBI? They are they type of people who blames everyone but themselves

>>9654524
SEAschizo, stop.

China is more worried about Kpop's influence than Anime's influence but it is really a matter of time before Xi's overreaches into anime.

>>9654174
Africans will hate them when they realize that "investment" begins and ends with extracting a resource and is colonial exploitation mk2.

>>9654301
>In some sense it was true but the guy did a fucking 180
Probably because he saw what actually happens with the theory if put in place and realized he was wrong.
Its not hypocritical, just updating your theory once you get new facts. But economists are a meme anyways and should be ignored.

>>9634759
She already did this stream on Twitch yesterday.

>>9635532
Its like they have /pol/ retards a country lmao

>>9654865
honestly based

>>9654575
seaniggers are sleeping now retard

>>9654953
See >>9653861, retard.

>>9654865
imagine /chinkpol/ exists

>>9654994
Welp, I'm not him if you wanted to know

Tia... Anons prefer to talk about CCP instead of you...

>>9655109
Easy to figure out why. She mostly streams in Chinese and guess the majority that can also speak Chinese.

>>9654174
Regular Africans that have contact with them already hate them because the Chinese are extremely racist and not afraid to show it, and regular Africans benefit very little from Chinese investments. The rich Africans love them though

>>9655179
I meant it in a condescending way, she is so shit that CCP looks more appealing.

>>9655310
Nah. I find her grelim mode entertaining but only that.

>>9654679
>>9655193
See >>9642472

>>9642359
Super kawaiiiii

>>9655977
See >>9642472

>>9645578
That reminds me, I'm gonna watch the VODs to their Minecraft collab

>>9655977
See >>9642640

>>9634699
Your 1 hour daily shitposting limit is up, Zhang. Tell that to your friends too when Daddy Xi gives you a cooldown for the next 23 hours.

>>9641841
You forget yourself she's always had her annoying ass followers that try to push her here.

>>9635532
Fuck me thats fucking scary

You do know it all because of the USA letting them get this powerful right

>>9657216
The same followers who post incredibly horny statements in her discord while simultaneously baiting retards on this board with hyperbolic shit about hololive.

I even see the assholes maintaining the greasefork spam scripts in that server.

>>9635532
> Restrictions of idol fandoms and distribution of idol goods. 5000+ idol fandom fanclubs banned. Fandoms will now have to be underground
based

>>9657606
The irony of Chinese using vpn to post on /vt/, which is essentially a fandom site.

>>9635532
>> Banning of private education. Any private institutions or academies will lead to punishment of the student, parents and tutor
Off topic but does this apply to foreign schools. Since I know a lot of richer Chinese send their kids to study in western private schools or universities

>>9657861
Why would it? They would have to travel overseas, outside jurisdiction. Then they would just deny exit visa applications but having overseas students is actually advantageous, opportunities for technology transfer and espionage.

>>9658538
idk. As the average western citizen gets more and more anti China, Xi may decide that sending their kids to countries with more cultural and political freedoms where most regular joes really don't like the Chinese government is a bad idea because of the potential for them to start preferring the west

These threads are better discussions than you can have on that other board.

So, how long until she does something stupid and someone rats on her to the CCP?

Wumao slide thread alert. Never forget Xi is only allowing wumaos to post for an hour a day followed by a 23 hour cooldown

>>9646294
Based Sid Meier chad

>>9659161
>Wumao slide thread
This isn't /pol/.

>>9642359
I would, she has a tiny cute body that you refuse to post.

>>9636266
We already have a city here in BC Canada that uses only Chinese on everything from government docs to street signs. We're pretty much a colony.

>>9659900
The Day of The Rake will be a war of liberation.

>>9635532
I genuinely don't understand why people can't just admit they know nothing about China. You people read what any dumbass says unquestionably and refuse to do any research on your own.

>>9636658
This.
I'm being completely sincere here not trolling but chinese is the absolute UGLIEST sounding language ever.

HU SHWAY SHU A HOW HU WEN WEY HO GONG NA SHU MEI BONG KENGWA EYAN SHU SHU ENGFONGGONGLONG

^what it sounds like from a non speaker pov

>>9660573
Poor attempt at deflection

>>9660573
We don't live in China and their media is tightly controlled, which backfires in widespread global ignorance and the presumption that anything good said about China is a psyop. Authoritarianism is unironically the country shooting its credibility in the foot in an attempt to consolidate power and suppress cultural evolution. As an American, I see the exact same Marxist postmodern propaganda push in our mainstream news and the inability to trust the news is what's got everyone resigning themselves to the inevitability of civil war. It's unironically shortsighted and counterproductive on the grand scale, but the ones pulling the levers of power are only concerned with their own self-enrichment in the here and now.

>>9660814
It's actually the accent. The native mainland mandarin accent is dogshit. Even Toba Rana has a less obnoxious accent even while presumably using an annoying fake cutesy voice. Maybe I'm not informed enough as someone who doesn't know shit about china, but I personally think Cantonese sounds a little better than mandarin. Maybe it's a distinction without a difference, but that s the impression I have.

>>9659076
She should watch and try to learn from Doki/Selen, who's the chad memetic dudegirl streamer Artia was trying to fashion herself as. Being wholesome and fun is the best way to build popularity, and even the den of racism that is 4chan can easily overlook race if someone's just an all around likeable person. Friendliness is greater than godliness.

>>9661579
Selen may be chinese but she isn't a chink. It's not a race thing, it's a personality and ideology thing

>>9661579
The difference in Chinese and American news is that if you actually go outside and not on /pol/ or twitter, most people realize the news and media are retarded and just live their lives because they know in reality none of it really affects their day to day.
I talk to a few Chinese girls, and most of them don't want to go back to China (but will because family) because they believe 100% their future there is limited because of corruption and how nepotism is just a widely practiced thing. Meanwhile they have a perfectly good career here with plenty of opportunity to rise even on a temporary Chinese visa.

But on the flip side, I'd take something like the vaccine as an example. On the internet everyone freaks out on one way or another, in reality if I tell someone I'm a little skeptical about it and don't want to take it until its FDA approved, 99% of the people I've talked to were supportive of my decision (my family ironically being the only one who shuts their ears and regurgitates the news, but they're boomers so whatever)
On the other hand though, you have these Chinese girls who unironically completely believe that China solved covid day 1 and there's no outbreaks there and never were. And its ridiculous hearing them trust the shit their government says without even the slightest bit of doubt.

>>9661579
I like Tia now, she is honest in that she hates her fanbase and only cares for her paying members, as it should be.

>>9636759
>>9641327
koikatsu card when

>>9661579
>even the den of racism that is 4chan can easily overlook race if someone's just an all around likeable person
lol
you mean to say
>4chan is full of edgy teenage coomer retards who love saying le ebin gamer words but not as much as they love jacking off to everything with two X chromosomes and a pulse

>>9634699
>>9634817
>>9634861
When are these cunts gonna realise less is more, I dont want every vtuber to be in a fucking bikini.

>>9665440
This but unironically.
There's a reason someone like Kana is PURE SEX and its because the contrast from her relatively seiso nurse outfit contrasts perfectly with her bare white legs that peek out from underneath her fingertip length skirt.
It perfectly accentuates her legs which makes them 10x more sexual than just throwing her in some plane and boring bikini, and more importantly it actually gives her something going on rather than a walking pare of boobs, first and foremost she is a nurse and not a sex symbol, but incidental to the fact she's a nurse she's also the most sexy pair of legs to ever enter the vtuber realm, and I say that with the full knowledge of AI's ass.

I don't get it. How hard is it to apologize for fucking up? Does she still think she was justified in betraying Coco and the company?

>>9665440
Hecatia's default model already covers that. This is just a grand bonus for the fans.

>>9635061
>HO THOT HO THOT .jpg

>>9662086
Funny you should mention vaccines, cause you can't even get the good ones in China. Xi can't handle allowing a foreign company to beat them, so the only ones available there are their low efficacy knockoffs.

>>9636222
based true and trips checked

>>9635047
Wasn’t there a clip of her saying she was once a part of those nutcase?

>>9639941
hey, in that moment she was just liking big tits, okay?

>>9635532
Damn, if this is all true then I have to ask. Yo, chinks in this thread, when is the next Tiananmen Square protests?

>>9654573
maybe not. Perhaps Xi is based after all

>>9658834
those people will simply be blacklisted if they ever return to China. Easiest solution

Good for her. Someone ask her if the police stole her kidneys or how many times she was gangraped

Oh nonononono only 10k views for the vod? What happened to our oshi, traitorbros?

>>9635061
Damn, this model is really pretty. Too bad that for her EOP fans everything is in chinese

>>9659076
>lesson: don't get stoned

>>9635532
The only reason they would go to such lengths is if the Anglo were winning and conquering those filthy Han again.

>>9640736
she has always used simplified Chinese characters, including on her roommate long before she ever joined Hololive. what do you think.

>>9644933
Two sides of the same coin
A foil to one another
Kino...

>>9668684
at least she sabotaged herself out of her own agency by not streaming and deleting all of her social media in order to "touch grass" or whatever

>>9634817
>>9634861
>>9634930
Is this approved by the CCP?

>>9660573
You are an ignorant whore for China, or a bought and sold whore for China. I have been watching Hong Kong English-language portals for the past few months and they have casually reported and vouched for at least half of those changes, especially
> Restrictions of idol fandoms and distribution of idol goods. 5000+ idol fandom fanclubs banned. Fandoms will now have to be underground
> Banning of popularity contests / voting for idols. Banning audition programs for idols. 青春有你3 tv show forcibly canned.
> Restrictions of uploaded dance videos (esp. Kpop videos)
> Restrictions on video games. Minors banned from playing on the weekdays. 1 hour limit on weekends. (Pro gaming and esports likely to also be restricted in the future)
> Banning usage of foreign teaching materials or textbooks
> Crackdowns on Chinese entertainers. Fan Bingbing imprisoned.
> If entertainers run away from China, their identity is removed from all internet portals and all assets are seized
The stuff pertaining to Chinese indoctrination are harder to verify because Chinese education practices are incredibly opaque and I think not allowed to be reported on, even.

>>9635673
> I'm predicting an annexation by 2027
Not gonna happen, the chinese military force is extremely overrated

>>9660573
Seething chink takokek

>>9654174
BrazilianCHAD here
The CCP and Winnie the pooh can suck my fat BBC (big brazilian cock)

>>9641975
that would also ban homeschooling

>>9641975
>take away rights and opportunities
>and it costs everyone else money because your government is retarded
>HOLY BASED
any home you live in should be officially designated as a barn

>>9674263
Can you really blame China for taking the warning of Brave New World to heart and not wishing to become a capture culture to mass media like the west is?

>>9675235
yes, I can, because "the Chinese" (a very limited number of Chinese autocrats) did it unilaterally and without the consent or interest of the governed in mind
you shouldn't be here Zhang, vtubers are designated enemies of the state (or aught to be soon, because they distract from Xi's cult of personality)

>>9675618
And? Your point?
Mob rule != democracy

do u rele beleb

>>9676197
you have repeated a pointless platitude instead of addressing the point, which is that "preventing Brave New World" was never the intent of the act
the answer to "the future is becoming Brave New World" is not "well, we should make it 1984 instead," where China is the only country on the planet making open and meaningful headway in that direction
the hubris of trying to shill for China's embracing of mass censorship of media on a board dedicated to youtube celebrities is astounding, you should try starting some "Chinese book burning is good and justified" threads on /lit/ next

>>9634699
Is she gonna stream on Twitch like before? I ain't using BiliBili.

>>9677321
>Is she gonna stream on Twitch like before?
It's possible, if unlikely.
>I ain't using BiliBili.
Your loss.

>>9676993
>you have repeated a pointless platitude instead of addressing the point
That is extremely ironic coming from someone who is incapable of having a conversation without throwing a tantrum and throwing around baseless accusations of being Chinese or a shill.
Maybe think about it some more and come back once you calm down and stop sweating.

>>9676993
>on /lit/ next
/lit/ is just a /pol/ front these days though.

>>9677661
you have chosen to defend one of the only two countries on the planet that is confirmed to pay people to shill for it
first you try using a generic anti-American "talking point" and then when it doesn't work you act like a pissy little bitch, did I perhaps touch a nerve?
I wonder if the foreign culture liaisons got canned due to counting as "foreign teaching material," what a hard position you find yourself in

>>9678127
"discuss why non-Chinese cars should be banned on /o/" is equally valid as an analogy

>>9678395
>one of the only two countries on the planet that is confirmed to pay people to shill for it
>two
Anon...

>>9636222
Medication, schizophrenic.

>>9635532
There is literally nothing wrong with this.

>>9677321
She was literally multistreaming to Twitch and Bilibili at the same time for this stream. Hell, the vod is still up on her Twitch channel.

BTW, I heard that she did the rigging of the swimsuit model herself according to one of the Q&As that were translated.

>>9634699
What about Civia/Ciyana?

>>9697052
1-hour zatsudan yesterday.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kA411F7Wc
Resident Evil today.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rU4y1P7oQ
She gave her thoughts on the new Resident Evil, commented on art, and asked for help cutting watermelon. She's done a few collabs, recently.
She's still lovely.

>>9675235
BNW is a lesser evil compared to fucking 1984.

>>9698786
I love my goat/horse so much. I legit cried during her Youtube goodbye stream.