/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Why are you using “he” there is no reason for you to misgender them

>>9697708
So this is the power of the first HoloEN manager huh
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1430165477981097989?s=19

>a tranny is in charge of holoen

>ME ME ME

Hmmm...

>>9697571
So the rrat that OmegaAlpha is the HoloEN producer, the creator of the whole branch, turned out to be true then.

>>9698287
OmegaAlpha is Coco?

>>9697571
So we only get new HoloEN generations if it fits his fucking fanfic lol
https://grapee.jp/en/169910

>>9697571
>literally older than this entire board
Is >she, dare I say it, BASED?

>>9697708
Omega said pronouns doesn't matter anon, he could be she if you want to.

>>9697571
Its just the collective account for all the managers. Omega is not any single person.

>>9697571

Gura is gonna duct tape this nerd to the flagpole

>>9697571
>LARPs as a otherworldly loremaster
>his bullshit still gets through higher-ups
>still gets money from it
Ngl this is pretty fucking based

>>9698554
>pronouns dont matter because there are female and male EN managers so you can refer to any of them
I buy this rrat

>>9698717
The only people higher up than OA is Yagoo and maybe A-chan.

>>9698489
I seriously hope this isn't the case

>been here since the beginning
>the first EN staff

>>9698839
This is unironically a fate worse than camwhore for her.

>>9697571
>yeah EN is cool BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS ME SINCE THE BEGINNING MEMEMEMEME
jeez, maybe Kiara wasn't so bad after all

>>9698016
It would explain why there's been so many issues with management.

>>9698826
pretending this screenshot has any amount of legitimacy, its not like he's in charge of that

If I were Yagoo I'd hire a 100% tranny manager force just to watch this site seethe about it 24/7. People who don't matter and are cogs in a machine at most and all of you schizos won't shut up about their genitals.

>>9697571
>Tranny
If she is a cute trap I can let this slide

>>9699020
I'd hire a high spec tranny just to filter the retards from this hobby. I've seen what the normalfags crying about "tranime" on /v/ have turned it into. This site needs a purge, and we need /l/ back too. No more normalfags.

>>9697571
This explains why the girls get so little support from management, this faggot is too busy stroking his ego and writing his shit fanfic lore.

sigh. i don't like irys, i don't like council, and i fucking hate omega. it should have just stayed holomyth.

>>9699141
>we need /l/ back too
B-B-BASED?

Why do streamers need written lore? Did no one tell him the girls forget this shit two months in and just make shit up as they go along?

>>9698839
Can you imagine if Coco graduated so she can focus full time as the manager of HoloEN? She just does the side streaming as a hobby.

>>9697571
Oh christ this retard will kill holoEN.

>>9697571
This producer, or whatever the fuck is annoying. The fact that they had to self insert themselves in to the ~lore~ is gay and pathetic. Let the talent have this do your job behind the scenes.

Are you people pretending to be idiots or something?
Omega has no pronoun because its STAFF, full or men and women. Jesus Christ.

>>9697571
Cover is so fucking lucky they accidentally picked a great set of talents for Myth because everything else they're doing with HoloEN is dogshit. Why does this retard think anyone should give a fuck about him?

>>9697571
I don't mind omega being the EN manager but why the fuck must he talk like a fucking chuuni doing some rp shit. Could've been EN A-chan but we got this cringe fest

>>9698554
>>9698728
>>9699463
Too bad Omega doesn't have shizophrenia included in his lore or else I would've believed your rrat

>>9697571
Has anyone replied to him with "And thank you for doing nothing".

>>9697571
reminder that AO in Ao-chan always stood for Alpha and Omega

>>9699463
>I
>not we
Both would be in character and guess what the spotlight stealing fag chose. EN management is an embarrassment. Yagoo should fire them asap. The talents didnt need them and they have only stunted their growth.

>>9699463
doesn't matter if it's one or a 100 people, the point is they don't need a "character" and it sure doesn't need to be some chunni faggot RP shit. If they wanted to make a A-chan like rep for management/cover for EN then they should of just did that. This is just cringe.

The fact that OA / the EN producer has made it so that the first year is dubbed "season 1" and right now is "season 2" is really telling. He's really treating this whole branch as some kind of living, breathing fantasy anime. Why did Yagoo put him in charge again?

>>9698016
It's hilarious. Watching the tranny destroy EN from the inside is going to be fun to watch.

>>9698604
she'd have to jump to reach her/him. lol.

>>9699604

>>9698905
meh, camwhore is the lowest.

>>9697708
because Omega said pronouns aren't matter, that's how based "it" it's

>>9699729
Holy shit this is next levels of deluded. Who are they defending and why?

>>9699463
>men and women
>implying there's only two genders

>>9697571
God I absolutely despise this faggot.

>>9699836
>YAGOO BEST GIRL!!!!!111

>>9699141
How can you look at what they did to the American comic book industry and think there is such a thing as a "high spec tranny". They exist to turn your hobbies into progressive left wing propaganda.

>>9699858
There ARE only two genders.
There's a full spectrum of mental disorders though.

>>9699729
Why are they like this

>>9698410
No, somehow that doesn't seem like Coco's personality at all. Omegalul is almost certainly one of the ones that ran Coco off though.

>>9697571
Didn't we already know this is AO-chan due to Ina's leaked Minecraft conversation with AO about getting her a character?

>>9699141
Anon it's ok to not know things but if you're so new you don't even know what normalfag actually means try not to open your retarded mouth.

>>9699141
Best post in the thread, except for the parts where you weren't talking about bringing /l/ back

>>9699949
You're so retarded that even god cannot save you. America is not the world and trannies or the concept of changing physical appearance to look like the other sex have existed before america. You're either a SEAmonkey who is eternally mad at america or a idpol retard in america himself who still plays rich bankers' left vs right games

>>9700021
eat the business end of a shotgun, normalfaggot.

>>9700080
Ok you've had your fun but you really need to go back now

>>9700080
You'll never be a real woman.

>>9699729
yeah this shit is backfiring for antis.

>>9700080
dilate.

Holy shit

>>9699722
I thought it was haachama at first.

>>9700080
I'm not a tranny so no thanks.

>>9700202
Unironically what does the producer do aside from paying up

>>9698489
>characters for the story

>>9700202
> "producing"

Yeah, I am a producer of shitposts too, when can I start collecting all of those management funbux?

>>9700080
Yup. Im thinking Cringe

>>9700080
Seething trannoid

>>9700294
They didnt even pay. They "checked to make sure it made hololive EN standards." All you EN management faggots deserve the rope. Clearly you dont care about the talent. You dont even care about the company at large. You pretend to care about one specific brand inside of it. Pathetic trash.

>>9700080
your mental disorder showing up tranny, take some meds

>>9699836
Loserbait

>>9699729
actually cringe
Ame would vomit if she read that shit

>>9699296
Irys is an acquired taste. Kronii and Baelz are ok. The rest can go die in a ditch

>>9699463
>men and women
I thought we were better than this holobros...

>>9700475
This rrat sucks, go back.

>>9700345
Point is that using the "vtweeter" insult against omega won't exactly work in this scenario

>>9699605
AO stood for ancient ones

Gen 1 - HoloMyth
Gen 2 - HoloCouncil
Irys - HoloSinger
Omega - HoloLARPer

>>9700424
>>9700345
be grateful, bitches.
Nobody watched your oishi's streams before she's in Hololive.
And you probably never do anything meaningful in your life if you don't know what a manager's job is

AMERICANS
HATE

Fucking managers, I bet they force the girls to ERP with them at 3 AM.

>>9700654
*Before the retcon

So, someone in the EN management chain (high up enough to be able to actually create and insert his/her character) saw how much fans loved Staff characters like A-chan, and most importantly how with the EN girls their own "manager-lore" developed organically over time between them and the fans (the girls mentioning small tidbits about their managers, fans take that and create fanart, which feeds back into the girls mentioning more about their managers, which creates more fanart, and voila a whole "extended universe" of characters like Enma, Jenma and J-Chad). Everybody is having fun... but then some faggot with a god complex on the EN staff saw all that and thought, hey fans seem to love manager-characters, sooooo what if for our next gen (hurrdurr but let's not call it gen, instead make it conform to my fanfiction) we took control of that process and present them with an already premade manager-character right from the start?
But also lets not simply call it a manager, because that would be too boring. I wanna be special, so I'm the "Manipulator!" Because everybody also loooves cringy lore and powercreep, amirite?

>>9700716
Im pretty sure a majority of schizos here would do the same if they were the manager of a bunch of broken girls

>>9700679
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with them?

>>9700716
They literally do. they have to get up for meetings at weird hours to cater to JP time, contributing to already fucked up neet-like sleep schedules.

>>9699836
typical gen z normalfag behavior is to graciously accept whatever they're given and not complain

>>9699141
/l/ literally never existed and you can't prove otherwise.

>>9699463
This was never fucking mentioned in the account and omegas been talking as a singular person thus far. It’s one staff member with a huge ego.

Also, the fact that people are so focused on gender is annoying, because this guy is obviously the one that fucking did that shit to Coco. It’s like he’s even trying to take credit for the very first video that COCO MADE. (The it’s V one)

He needs to get lynched.

>>9700755
>Because everybody also loooves cringy lore and powercreep, amirite?
If you've seen twitter, that seems to be the case.

>>9700080
Lmao

>>9700840
it's this obsession with political correctness and inflated sense of importance
Eugene and Shinove both existed and are fine

>>9699605
I only know a-chan. This "Ao-chan", is she in the room with us?

>>9700755
Not just "someone" but the actual person at the very top of the EN management chain - the person who convinced Yagoo to create HoloEN and is the person in charge of the whole operation.

My theory is that the JP side doesn't allow or discourages EN from doing certain things and OA goes to bat for them.

>>9699605
>>9700940
It's α-chan.

>>9700943
But Coco said explicitly she wasn't moving to anywhere else in the company, so that can't be it.

>>9700080
They hated him because he told the truth.

>>9700986
Other way around. Cocos talked about it before. How new are you people?

>>9700671
fuck off coverCuck, the only thing managers do is steal credit from their talents.

>Nobody watched your oishi's streams before she's in Hololive.
This also doesn't hold up when just about all of HoloEN were already established cintent creators in one way ir another.

>>9701028
Coco isn't responsible for HoloEN's creation - that's just fanfiction. Go read the grapee interview.

>>9701100
Not new. It's just devil's advocate and a theory.

He needs to get exposed for what he did to Coco and Haachama.

Get his ass.

>>9701130
Orrrrr that fucking faggot isn't just taking credit from EN members but is also taking credit from Coco for the creation of EN WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK

>>9700752
but the ancient ones are a lovecraftian octopus entity not some faggy hermaphrodite god

>>9701130
only tatsunocucks believe that and discredit other Holomens helping open probability for HoloEN

>>9700716
What I wouldn't do to be a fly on the wall inside #casting-couch

>>9701298
NTA but aren't you're overthinking this?

>>9700943
well they did mention SCP in gura's interview

>>9697571
Oh, a tranny trying to draw attention to itself? Color me suprised.

>>9698517
Pronouns do fucking matter. It makes it unnecessarily awkward and confusing as fuck to not use them. It's either a he or a goddamn she. There's no in between.

>>9701606
But it's claiming to be genderless. So how does that apply.

>>9701655
Sure, use either of them. Both are fine.

>>9701655
They said they don't care, dude

>>9701655
then >it should have never respond to that marshmallows

>>9699428
There is exactly a 59% chance "she" kills holoEN. The alternative 41%, well...

>>9701713
I'm sure she'll care when someone makes a futa doujin of her or maybe she's into that

>>9699960

>>9699985
>Coco
>HoloEN manager

>>9699960
Based

>>9701113
>m-managers don't care about Hololive!

im more upset by this faggot's self insertion
a-chan is technically a behind the scene producer and talent, she elevates the holo JP scene and is extremely likable
i take one look at this persons words and its so condescending it makes me wanna puke
this guy gets paid to have the ego of a power tripping DnD DM
everytime this disgusting god avatar that looks like they wanted to LARP as the mom from Kill la Kill but "genderless" shows up on stream I immediately want to close my tab

>>9698410
>>9699985
Omega acts nothing like Coco. I hate to say it but Omega seems to act much more "professional" than her.

>>9698359
>The staffs
ESL or retarded?

>>9697571
unless she streams I don't give a shit.

>>9701508
At the end of the day, he really is just trying to insinuate himself into recognition by making shit up. If he wasn't, why would he be cloutchasing on twitter instead of just getting all the praise for his alleged hard work from the girls who mysteriously heap appreciation on every person they can even think of, except him?

>>9701919
>managers have been shit on since everyone was on /jp/ for being completely worthless and sometimes detrimental to talents
>multiple talents have told stories about management being incredibly shit or incredibly worthless
Anon there are some subjects where you can't be a contrarian, this isn't even worth shitposting about

>>9701933
Worse. Your oshis money paid for the comission of their avatar and probably future rigging.

>>9699020
Not only does /vt/ not matter in real terms to the success of vtubing--look how many proud "don't member, don't sub, don't comment" types there are--but using /vt/ as a Streisand effect booster/straw man to attack is an intelligent strategy.

Don't you faggots are little bit overreacted?

>>9702163
The best scenario is it remains a static PNG like the Holostars manager

>>9702098
>he really is just trying to insinuate himself into recognition by making shit up
Isn't it against Japanese corporate policy to lie to consumers. How do we know he's not telling the truth.

>>9701933
I wonder if the suits understand how much disdain people have this kind of guy. It feels like he's coming out to be the scapegoat for the company's shitty behavior and hate.

>>9702098
This

>>9701956
Yeah they are definitely different. That said, Omega may be more professional but he is also incredibly detached and doesn't know what they're doing.

>>9702257
You really think a design of that caliber will stay a png? That's even more wasted money

>>9702369
i feel if they gave the larping faggot a live2d it would've been anticipated at this point

The best timeline

>Omega makes first appearance in a stream
>Looks straight forward into the audience
>Has unusually high voice
>Gooooodddd morning mother-fuckers

>>9702257
>>9702369
This right here softly confirms that they're the 12th member.

>>9702273
Oh shit, you're right. The company says they never lie, so I guess they must be telling the truth.

>>9702283
At worst he's divisive, there's at least as many people on twitter that fucking love this self-important useless prick as there are people that hate his guts

>>9702283
You are falling for the memes, bro. Do you not know what a heel in wrestling is?

Pretty sure it's still Ina's old chat mod, the snarky condescending and smug way of typing and calling everyone shit like "Detective" and stuff like that is fully within the garbage AO-chan did with Ina by always referring to her as Priestess.

>>9702419
Would've rathered the Enma design that Ina made get used. It's way better.

>>9699960
based

>>9702574
Wasn't AO-chan in one Ina's recent streams chat?

>>9702648
Nothing's stopping someone from using two accounts.

>>9702574
That's possible actually. They were using code speak that one time a long while back when Ina accidentally leaked their Convo about them getting a model.

>>9702618
Except that Omega isn't Enma. He's literally the boss of Enma

>>9702754
Doesn't he have to use the AO account? Omega doesn't have a youtube channel yet

>>9702435
Will cocofags ever stop denying reality?
She's gone and will never come back

>>9702435
SHE'S
FUCKING
GONE.

>>9702435
Cope.

>>9697571
This might confirm that Omega was responsible for banning Coco from collabing with EN
Also telling off Haachama on calling herself EN gen 0
Wouldn't be surprising if the shit lore was his idea too

Its hilarious how the seething over Omega is just like his lore.

You see a drawing and a few vague statements, and already see her as some ominous and all-powerful force that's just somehow forcing Cover to kneel to her demands.

>>9702821
Yeah well omega is a punk bitch.

>>9702910
Based, keep nip whores away from the actual talent.

>>9702574
That's a good catch

>>9702910
Haachama and Coco don't fit into his fanfiction so this makes a lot of sense
What are the chances of omegatranny also being a bugman?

>>9697571
i don't understand why people think omega is a guy. her model is clearly female and it's obvious that the pronouns thing is just omega larping as the god of the awful lore she created. the real reason to hate her is because applying lore to what are basically livestreamers is a horrible idea. let alone applying bad lore to them. that and she's incredibly condisending.

>/vt/ seething over AO shitposting on Twitter
kek

>>9702938
More like a sinister and corruptive force that's abusing intercorporate politics to his own ends at the expense of the people he was put in charge of.

>>9698016
If true, I give HoloEN 1 year before it goes to shit from complete miss management and general incompetence.

>>9703032
I sincerely don't think a woman can keep being so autistic for one year about that chuuni larp, this is a man's autism

>>9703120
you have never met a woman, have you?

>>9703120
were you born after tumblr died or something

>>9701113
Just like how you abandoned coco when she dropped hololive huh,you people just love BRAND big talk about fuck cover but continue to eat sludge

>>9703120
anon you haven't see Fauna 'friend"?

>>9702435
the best timeline is this one, where she's free from cover's bullshit

Honestly FUCK this cunt. She's the one responsible for keeping so many great collabs and streams from us. Limiting Myth's potential. Something has to be done.

>>9703153
I am a woman

>>9703153
Thankfully no

>>9697571
>>9699141
They've contributed so much too. Thank you Omega for everything. Pic related.

>>9703376
Me too

>>9703376
>>9703537
same

>>9703376
*Awooga awooga* humina humina humina humina *eyes pop out*

>>9699089
there is no evidence that it's not a woman

>>9703898
>implying that's ever stopped /vt/ from calling anyone a tranny.

>>9703028
Lol if this is true then that is just a bomb waiting to explode. They already got out of China so if this chick is Chinese or even half Chinese and she also happen to be in such a high position would just spell another drama arc for cover.

>>9699729
>sofyan---> Basedfan
checks out

>>9699674
>is going to be
Well, it's been there from the start. So if you have enjoyed any holoen content you are a certified troon enjoyer. Congrats.

>>9701713
they implies multiple people

>>9704649
Not entirely. It can be used to refer to someone while not referencing a gender. But the freaks these days don't want people remembering that because not referencing a gender is the same thing as committing genocide to them.

>>9704773
you would just use the person's name then.

>>9704826
No, you can use 'they' and be just fine. It's still proper English.

>>9703216
>you abandoned coco when she dropped hololive
never liked the bitch from the get go, too vulgar. and now she is even worse, at least before she collabed with good holomems.

Wow! This killed my expectations for Omega. No gays please

It's confirmed that Omega is just AO-chan right?

>>9704943
outside of Asacoco skit and collabs, she is nobody.

>>9705088
It's heavily implied.

>>9697571
What an egotistical cunt.

>>9698489
They are trying to become the next fgo.

>>9702419
I honestly wanted a debut since the designed is good. that was untill tranny revealed himself as a leech.

>>9698410
No, Kaichou is not a supremacist

>>9698489
God I hate it so much

>>9702574
But I thought AO was actually liked by Ina's community/Ina herself.

>>9697571
Alpchad the beggining
Omegchad will be there in the end when your girl graduates

KNEEL

>>9699296
EN1 will never be surpassed

>>9705398
The chuuni larp works when you're a mere book and everyone thinks you're just a mod, not the one who gives orders to everyone in the branch with a 3k model, and he was still annoying by the way, but he didn't appear that much so it wasn't too grating

>>9699501
What a waste of design and money, as if being a manager have too much free time

>>9700080
this is good bait

>>9698489
>>9700344
It's probably for the Hololive Alternative side project.

>>9699729
Just like on YT comment section

>>9705586
>thinking any EN besides the ones in japan will even be a cameo in any alternative project
He must be retarded if he did it for that, and even more retarded for not hiring more talents in japan

>>9705684
For all we know that's not up to them. Management is different among branches after all.

>>9703028
But China hate trannies and nigger

>>9703898
No tits, male style costume

>>9705861
It's meant to look androgynous.

>>9697571
>>9698287
>>9698489
>>9698826
>>9700344
>>9705383
>>9705586

I hate to drop this on you but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDi692Y__0Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lhG5UeT9lQ

looks like they want to make an ARG type bullshit

I'm going to laugh when Omega turns out to be Coco and /vt/ does a fucking 180. Screencap the hate shit is going to be hillarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZSMbTRyo80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjxrimV64Zs

>>9705684
This doesn’t make sense, why wouldn’t holoen be able to appear in alternative projects they don’t have to be in Japan for

>>9705899
This makes no sense.

>>9704550
I've always hated EN so I'm safe

>>9705899
I dont get it... what im suposse to see here?

>>9706015
>>9706039
look up what SCPs are, its an alternate reality game shit where people make up fake lore about "monster encounters" its men in black larp online.

>>9706068
forgot to include my links:
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation

>>9700294
If Aki-P from AKB is an indication, they create the general storylines and images for their groups and oversee general stuffs (i.e: advertisements, making connections and such). Oh, and marries one of the hotter ones after she graduates too

>>9697571
More like Omegay Alfaggot

>>9706276
genderless angels can't be gay

>>9705973
>Coco is omega
How new? Coco would never post about "pronouns".

>>9706318
thats what they told you? lol homo

>>9706342
>he doesn't know

>>9706342
>>9705973
The voice doesn't fit the character at all. why do retards keep assuming this will happen.

>>9706318
He's definitely a man and so are you.

>>9706421
post proof

>>9700399
That image. Anon...

>>9706421
you can't prove that

>>9697708
OP didn't misgender him though. You literally cannot misgender her because it has no preferred pronouns.

>>9706342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ofZ6uYDU0

didn't coco literally confirm she would not be joining management? you people are delusional

>>9699296
I dont know why you hate irys. If you say design, fine but as a streamers she is great.

>>9706410
>Voice doesn't fit the character
nobody cares, you guys say that about literally every talent yet here we are

>>9706498
schizos will leech on to any hope they have, no matter how little it may seem. it's only cope

>>9699960
Based, even if it was in response to bait

>>9697571
>the girls just had their anniversary
>Otard barges in to gobble some of that limelight
>ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>>9705899
https://youtu.be/fLAcgHX160k?t=20
I found an easter egg in the omega video from hlen. It's at 20 seconds in.

So Omage is literally JUST a staff member?
If so I will start shitting on him for doing all the "ask me anything" and chunni lore bullshit.

>>9706578
How is answering a question trying to steal spotlight? They seem to just be clearing things up.

>>9706622
we've been doing that already, but it's not too late to join in on the fun

>>9702572
the difference between wrestling and hololive is that hololive wants to pretend to be a big happy family

>>9706523
Why the fuck would Coco/Kson voice a character with a Bio that doesn't match her personality? Honest question.

why are so many people making shit up in their heads?

>>9706592
just to be clear, you're calling them a leech right? this is the pathfinder "giant leech". i mean sure, you actually had me looking for it for a second.
either way this fucker is gonna be making a "holoEN" wiki with more fucking weird lore at some point "knows things about holoEN" yeah mfer's gonna be writing SO much fanfic level lore it's gonna be disgusting.

>>9705899
>got asked about SCP on her interview
Oh my god, who the fuck did they get to interview HoloEN? Must have been just some random Redditfag.

>muh lore
holos don't even 'act' in character aside from meme reference

You know this Omage/AO/Enma faggot is some fat old balding larper right?

>>9706744
i mean look at all the "lore" shit they are doing, this is literally some 2004 youtube level/marble hornets/creepy pasta shit. they DIRECTLY brought it up for their interviews. Omega ABSOLUTELY goes to /x/ every day I would wager a lot of money on it.

>>9697571
He carried the Left 4 Dead stream hard. Dude's an actual god.

>>9705884
That kind of character always male in Niji. Only Murica trannies make a fuss about their own gender.

>>9706878
Isn't their character literally a humanized biblically accurate angel. hence the getup and the halo?

>>9706842
According to this shit, Mio and Fubuki are always "in-character"
https://alt.hololive.tv/holonometria-en/story/just-another-day-at-mizores-kitchen/
So, I don't know.

>>9706878
holy shit it's been a minute since I heard that name.
....at least marble hornets had a plot

>>9702827
Omega does have a channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKYyiJwNg2nV7hM86U5_wvw

If this is the first manager for EN, does that mean this is the person with whom Marine talked to a long time ago and had good things to say about them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXZTlX2fehs

hypothetically, let's say they debut and it's actually a woman voicing her. And the girls softly confirm a lot of the shit Omega said on twitter, what then?

>>9706963
maybe? i think it's supposed to be some kinda otherworld entity. everything's triangles (lol get it hololive is a triangle logo cause of play button, fucking kill me) which is atypical for angels. no 100 eyes, "hair" seems to be able to move on it's own.
seems more like they are ripping some inter-dimensional being motif from OXENFREE

>>9707199
I'd be lying if I said I don't like the floating tentacle hair.

>>9707290
yeah but trangle portals are like the "i don't want to be cliche" cliche. it's invoking the pyramids, the back of the dollar bill, the illuminati, the bermudia triangle, etc etc. it's like the person who goes "goth" to "not be like everyone else" when they hang out with all the other goths, and shop at the same goth store. it stands out a bit, but it's clearly someone who knows enough occult shit to want to buck the "norm". absolutely someone who has been reading/posting creepy pasta. exactly the type who would know what SCPs are and would try replicate that in hololive.
honestly the only problem i have is that it's creeping into the streams too much, where as alternative is like separated. idk how else to put it, lore is fine, more so when the talent come up with something. it feels more natural and is usually based on something they want to do/say/be. this feels like turning hololive into "characters" which has never really been important imo. it's always been about being entertained by the PERSON behind the model. sure they have "character traits" but it's usually played for laughs or something they can use creatively. not something foisted on them

i think its funny they blow smoke up their own asshole about them "being there since the start" meanwhile everyone in Myth throws the office people under the bus at any second when you ask them about them starting out
Especially Calli, she's the most notable to claim how fucking useless Cover was and saying they basically had to learn to fly on their own

>Creation a EN division after constant push from Coco
>Do it
>leave them to swim their own
>they do
>Year later after all the stress they say that there was no one there for them so they're going to be there for Council
>some back office faggot comes in saying I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR THESE TALENTS

>>9707509
This fuck that faggot, they've done nothing for them and for that faggot yo make it about "I've been here since the beginning" implying they are the reason for all the good that has come out of it. Also using
>we
What kind of fucking gigantic fucktard do you have to be to try and shoehorn yourself into something you didn't even contribute to.

>>9707509
People seem to be of this impression that management does fuck all and it couldn't be farther from the truth. I've run a department of 4 fucking people before and it was still a full time job to manage their schedules, projects, training, workload, meet with upper management, field their questions and QA their work. I only kept it up for about a year before I asked to be moved back down and let someone else manage because I can't stand being that busy all the time and I'm a better worker than manager anyways.

>>9707704
I get what youre saying but there's like 3-4 managers and an upper manager for Myth alone

>>9699649
Cover is bound by japanese labor legislation which makes firing someone very difficult
Best he could do is make work a living hell for omegle til he quits

>>9707509
to be fair this is just Cover's MO. go have a listen to kiara's interviews with gens 0,1, or 2. they did not have direct contact with each other, and managers left them out to dry a LOT. Aki and Suisei have been direct about this quite a bit. How they felt hopeless dozens of times. Kanata has clips about them only giving her 200$ in Feb (2 months after debut). Yagoo himself says "we give them a phone and a model, it's very in expensive and easy" when talking at industry events, trying to appeal to investors. kiara and calli both paid out of pocket for all their music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTpmMRah3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs3tpYF9afw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSiSg1nXpy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJw8md9oSg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qz4FqrdCZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpw7b1qV3qw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Hmub7WqXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ87zuPkqMs

>>9701130
Seems to me that that faggot just took credit for what others have done, I mean why wouldn't he it's his interview.

>>9699729
Why exactly can't they have normal 3d models? Yeah maybe they wouldn't be up to par with the JP ones but clearly they have enough tracking to make it work fine and it's not like people haven't made real models of all of them, anyway. If frigging vshoujo can do it, so can Hololive. Same for ID

>>9707704
refer to info in my other post: >>9707784

>>9697571
I hate this vtweeter cunt so much its unreals

>>9699960
Mental illness isn't real.

>>9707806
because cover contractually obligates them to only use the full 3D models and rigging at their approved location. this is why they cant use other programs outside of live 2D. it's all to hamper and limit them to only go through the corporation for all their assets. I would wager they also pay for studio time and model revisions, as cover makes them pay directly for a lot of other things.

>>9697571

>>9697571

>>9707784
Paying out of pocket is nothing new. Matsuri has clips as far back as 2019 talking about how you pay for your studio time and cover songs, I know it doesn't make it right but sadly its been there since the start. Which is why I laugh at the people who claim these girls live lives of luxury, theyre creatives who put a lot of money back in so they can make something and music studio time is not cheap whatsoever

i'll do it

i feel like i'm the only person on /vt/ who's willing to give omega a chance.

>>9703067
>Early life section
How much do you want to bet this is a tribeoid?

i hope you guys are happy

>>9707878
>Using anime as an argument
>Disregarding the fact that omega tranny is a power hungry cunt who takes credit for shit they didn't do.
Le rope yourself redditor

>>9708068
Based amigo Chad, putting the tranny in their place.

The worst thing about Omega is how ESL they are.

>Hololive is only for girls
>"But I want to be in hololive"
>"I know, I'll make a genderless entity, that should cover it"
>This happens
Send it to HolostarsEN

>>9707878
>I hate conservatives
welcome

>>9708133
But that's a male branch. Omega isn't male or female. Omega is just... Omega.

>>9707903
yeah but notice how ame has images of a MUCH higher fidelity model in one of her first VR stream announcements?
i would bet everything she was not allowed to use this because it's "too close" to a real model, even though it looks like a ps1 game. it's the focus of this thumbnail and yet we've never seen it.

>>9708128
don't they speak french too

>>9708182

The one in the thumbnail was probably fanart:

https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1416956005275996165

>>9708179
If the VA is male, he should go to Holostars.
If the VA is female, she should go to Hololive.
Simple as.

>>9708317

Are you aware of the fact that other genders exist besides male or female? Or that non-binary is a thing?

I just find their twitter larp boring.

Like, it feels like they just exist to help boost HoloEN's twitter game because they're pretty bad (as a group) with making the most out of social media.

>>9708341
I am aware that certain mentally ill people think that other genders exist, but those people should not be humored and should be shunned from society as often as possible.

>>9707784
>How they felt hopeless dozens of times.
This comes with every industry and comes in several different forms. The most common ones are that you've got a good idea but the cost/benefit analysis loses out which means the bean counters won't approve it or some other logistical issue makes the idea unfeasible. Alternatively, you run into a slump but you still need to be productive, especially Japanese corporate culture is known to really look down on taking time off. Even indies run into both of these issues, although an indy might be able to decide for themselves what to do, but it gets even more frustrating when things outside of your control means your ideas are impossible.

>paid out of pocket for all their music.
This is also normal, unless you are producing the music from scratch yourself, you're going to pay, indy or otherwise. A full-time streamer isn't going to have the time to make something seriously high quality themselves unless they were professionals before they began streaming. The benefits of the company in this situation are that they can connect you to talented and skilled people that you might not have access to if you're indy. More importantly, the company handles marketing to ensure it gets out enough to actually get a return on the investment in song which is something few indies can hope for.

>>9708313
so was the smol ame model she used in the end, notice that fan artist has no still image of his model with a hat, nor is it dabbing. im gonna rrat a bit and say she probably got it modeled and rigged before getting the plug pulled. like many have said, there's plenty of unofficial 3D models they could use, WHY is it smol that's allowed? WHY can't cover make their models and let them import it into VR? because that would reduce the need for them to pay for 3D studio time. hell I would even wager that they have to pay for the studio time + a fraction of all their SC, ontop of fees for them to make 3D "rooms" for them.

>>9708423
>I am aware that certain mentally ill people
>certain
because schizos like (You) are such a net positive for society, right?

>>9708469
moreso than trannies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
how many of them are even employable?

>>9708469
You and your ilk want to chop bits of your bodies off. You are in no position to call anyone else schizos.

>>9708341
Send such people to a new Holodivision that caters to Wectern culture.

>>9708444
bro they take a portion of their SCs and membership funds, a MINIMUM of 30%, and as much as 50% according to the talents themselves. all they give them is a live 2d and a PHONE, that's like 3k TOPS. coco made like 2mil, they got at least like 400k out of that, why the FUCK is she paying to use a VR setup that costs like 2-3k? don't repeat the "100k" bullshit that they lied to her about. we all have seen VR streamers do the same shit with under 5k.

>>9708341
>other genders exist besides male or female
No, they don't.

>>9702841
>>9702859
>>9702897
Samefag

>>9708586
Those are gay sharks!?! Fucking gross

>>9703337
>calling them myth
self harm is bad, omegle

>>9708516
I've had a couple dozen work for me and they've been consistently better than average. Any population is going to look bad if you're going entirely off of their Twitter posts.
>>9708524
If it's so bad, then why did you do it to yourself, Pomu?
>>9708357
Same desu.
I couldn't even post about the new gens until the moment they debuted; that's how little I give a shit about a static image fucking around on Twitter.
If this is going somewhere, and "Season 2" is actually going to do something fun with the lore comparable to HoloALT, then I'll get over the smugposting. But that seems unlikely given the talent's own attitudes toward their lore, and management's continued insistence on not investing in Myth at all outside of cheap moneygrabs.

>>9708557
This, but unironically.

>>9697571
This explains why Ame has to do all the management and tech stuff herself. Their actual manager is a useless fucking troon whos too busy dilating and tweeting to do his job

>>9699985
Coco ran herself off, she had it not getting to show her coochie on stream. She'd have been better with the twitch hot tub thots

>>9704649
>>9704773
It's against most standardized rulesets for English grammar but I always heard people use singular they. We even had to specifically be taught it's not "correct" in HS because it was so prevalent

>>9708341
>other genders exist besides male or female

Jesus christ the amount of seethe that the exsistance of Omega causes /vpol/ is so fucking funny. Holy shit you people are pethetic. Day after day there are threads of this person and you don't even know what their full job is.

>>9708733
You were taught wrong. If the gender of the person being talked about is either unknown or irrelevant then you can use 'they' when referring to them.
It's been that way far longer than any of these idiots pushing the idea it's incorrect has been leeching air.

>>9708757
their full job is tweeting that much is obvious

>>9708774
But they've worked with EN before Omega Twitter become a thing. I don't know why they make you so mad.

>>9708423
I find larping funny but this faggot can't even do that right. iirc his second tweet after he was introduced is him immediately breaking character.

When and why did watching cute anime girls playing video games turn into some weird chuuni fantasy larp? Who wants this? Why are the doing this?

>>9708733
I've been always thought at the school to always assume a male pronoun if the gender is undetermined, so this feels like a recent change. IIRC you only use singular "they" when the noun is gender-neutral, like players, gamers, for example.

>>9708538
>why the FUCK is she paying to use a VR setup that costs like 2-3k? don't repeat the "100k" bullshit that they lied to her about. we all have seen VR streamers do the same shit with under 5k.
You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. it's so far and above those janky 5k DIY mocap setups that it's not even funny. It's clearly a high end, professional, full blown mocap studio dedicated to high quality mocap work. You arent just paying for the mocap hardware which i promise is worth a lot more than "5k" but also the facility the hardware is housed in and space in Japan isn't cheap. You also notice that they regularly have 4 or more talent on mocap at once? That's not just a single "~5k" mocap device, it's enough for every person live on stage at once. I think they had like 8 people up there for one of their big concerts? High quality live mocap for 8 people simultaneously? Yeah the studio probably IS worth 100k minimum.

As for making her pay to use it, that's an agreement between them and how they choose to do business. Once again, an indy will *definitely* have to pay if they want quality 3d and won't get the boon of 100k subscribers on debut to support it.

>>9697893
>>9698016
>>9697571
Most of the JP managers are women no? So logically they would likely get a woman to manage EN. I seriously doubt a JP company would allow a tranny to become a "face" of the company. The they/them faggotry is probably just some woke faggot shit that all western women kneel to.

>>9708786
we've been making fun of holoen management being useless before omega existed

>>9708757
>He thinks the account is operated by one person
It's 2021 and some people still believe Wendy's is an actual smug redhead huh?

>>9708674
>I've had a couple dozen work for me and they've been consistently better than average.
Lol, where the fuck do you work that you've had 24 tranny coworkers?

>>9708851
Omega isn't a manager.

>>9707860
Has this been confirmed? Have they talked about the contract terms?

>>9708872
true, he's a tweeter

>>9708892
A-Chan is a tweeter too?

>>9708674
>I've had a couple dozen work for me and they've been consistently better than average
damn shame they kept killing themselves so you needed to hire somebody else

>>9708912
A-Chan is a manager

>>9708944
A-Chan is not and has never been a manager. Jesus christ of course you don't know anything.

>>9702910
This dude really keeps getting more and more unlikeable

>>9703032
Omega is 100% a man

>>9708993
Imagine believing everything you read here

>>9708964
Of course she is, you clearly dont even watch Hololive why are you here

>>9708674
>I've had a couple dozen work for me and they've been consistently better than average.
Absolutely not my experience, even back when I was open-minded about it. Worked a call center for a while, first one took 50% as many calls as everyone else and 5x more breaks than allotted, holy shit firing them was a trip. Second one worked well enough but they were passing and took someone else in the department to bed without telling them in advance. The guy who got the wiener surprise had a breakdown at work and quit, then we replaced him and this fucking troon did it to the new hire too. We fired this one and never hired another one again.

>>9708757
>/vpol/
want me to guess your sex, "darling"?

>>9709063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yVBfqZ2Mg

Achan is not a manager, she's management. There is a difference.

>>9709094
>Sample size of two
>Same as the number of employees shitting where they eat and quitting over it
So who DO you hire? Because so far it sounds like you're exclusively scouting for volatile retards

>>9709148
ESLkun...

>>9709234
manager and management are 2 different jobs, is english your 1st language?

>>9697571
So he was just jealous that Enma and other got fans and designs and had to insist to get a design and teasers for themselves uh

>>9709056
Imaging being a dick sucking faggot

>>9709234
I'm native English speaker dipshit. Are you? There is a fucking difference.

>>9709205
We're a call center, we hire pretty much anyone who can type more than 40wpm but I'm not the only person who's been privy to issues caused by troons, Every manager has a fucking story about them, like if they pass, they hide it until they get some poor shmuck into bed with them, or if they don't pass, they make a big fucking deal about people acknowledging them their identity. These are problems exclusive to trannies and severely disrupt the entire workplace.

>>9705398
Eh, back then I'm 100% certain the feelings were mixed toward AO-chan in /hlgg/, some didn't mind and appreciated having a chat mod to avoid too many retards, but others didn't like how self impotant they could sound.

>>9702574
>AO was Ina's friend and mod
>AO is Omega, and the now main manager
>Omega scouted EN2
>Ina got 2 friends of her in EN2
It just all makese sense

>>9708858
Most likely was just for one position for quotas, but had to constantly replace the tranny because 41%.

>>9705398
god no, AO chan was considered awful and actively micromanaged the chat to a high degree, including deleting a large amount of superchats and using the ban and timeout hammer very aggressively early on until the chat culture was basically lobotomised

>>9705398
AO is Ina’s husband, so they have the entire branch in an iron grip now, good for them I suppose, they are making bank

>>9702574
Holy shit this is actually the most plausible, even that stupid fucking self insert name (A)lpha (O)mega because the tranny couldn't resist.

>>9697571
I hate this fucking faggot so much, writing overhype lore advertising that inevitably results in epic disappointment (Council fails to live up to the supergod standard Omega set for them), using Twitter to promote his God Complex, as well as rewriting history and stealing Coco's credit as the creator of HoloEN. And even then, as proved by the last anniversary, it was Ame of all people (someone who's tortured by celiac disease everyday) who proved to be the better manager and organizer. I want YAGOO to fire this faggot and rehire Kson as the manager (or if impossible, make Ame the leader of HoloEN) but then again, YAGOO is a Pilate, a coward now and always.

this makes more sense now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNAoA6uEk-k

>>9710111
Never liked AO-chan, but the chat culture wasn't "basically lobotomised". Unless you mean you wanted the garbage that is Gura or Ame chat. Ina's chat is actually readable.

>>9708712
times up zhang get back to work

>>9701468
lol are you retarded? omega wasn't even in the company when coco advocated for holo en but you newfags only joined a few months ago so no wonder you wouldn't know

>>9703007
don't you know vpn are against the rules?
your gonna get your social credit lowered again

>>9698489
Going slow on introducing new generations isn't necessarily a bad thing even if it is for a stupid reason. Vtubers are still relatively niche in the the English speaking world so over saturating won't help. Societal shifts in the next 5-10 years will probably open the market up some more but it's a difficult thing to get right

>>9702574
thank fucking you, her tweeting was familiar.
now I see it

>>9708842
this is a fallacy. translators and JP fags assume they are women cause they cant stand the idea of a man talking to their imaginary girlfriend.

truth of the matter is they don't actually have any preference for gender, matsuri has straight up said there's both. japanese speech does not usually contain pronouns that would indicate gender.

>>9706068
You... DO know that SCP was originally from /x/, right?