/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Gotta give it to Kiara: her devotion to KFP is as big as theirs to her. Very few streamers doing multi hours long SC readings these day

>>9782984
milking SC out of her cult of fanatics is literally the only successful thing Kiara has managed to do, she'd be a fool to not keep going hard like that

>>9782984
Be curious to know what her premium/ad breakdown is. Stream length apparently matters a lot for the former

whole board is having a numbers meltdown it seems...

>>9784405
The pomu schizo broke the numbers thread containment.

>>9784549
That and /jp/ schizos are mad about this collab.

>>9784405
All thanks to you fags. Start watermarking your images with "I'm a tribalfagging numbernigger"

>>9784549
At least this place is peaceful now. /hlgg/ didn't seem to bite his baits also, so that's a mostly untouched place right now too.

>>9784645
Tribalfags are everywhere, it just so happens that numbers are good to fuel their schizophrenia.

can someone explain to me what the fuck a median is?

>>9784979
Were you out sick on the day they teach this in 1st grade?

>>9784979
If you have 5 numbers and 4 are really low but 1 is really high the median would just be one of those low numbers, but the mean would be higher since it is affected by the outlier.

>>9784405
let them be retards over there, means less retarded shit-flinging in here

>>9784979
These are the people we share these threads with?

>>9785238
although, if you have 1, 1, 1, 10, 10, 10, 10, your median would be 10. So do mostly special streams, and you're set for a high number

>>9784644
Live in 2 hours and 4000 people waiting.

>>9784405
It's pretty funny seeing people in that thread melt down over Kuzuha and Hal's August numbers, when every numbers thread in the 2nd half of August has talk about how utterly insane Kuzuha's AUG median is going to be and how Hal is making a numbers killing with Vsaikyou hype.

>>9784405
They can't deal with anything that threatens their dominance, be it real or not. Just like this thread.

>>9785698
Imagine the first official Gura and Pekora minecraft collab... The numbers...

>>9785238
>>9785640
Medians are good for sets that are more or less on a normal distribution because it reduces the impact of outliers.
Seta as the one on your example can’t really be “averaged”, as it’s clearly made of two disjoint sets mashed up in one (like, for instance, Patra regular streams and her ASMR streams)

>>9785774
They should do it on Pekora's channel, chumbuds aren't reliable when it comes to collabs.

>>9785875
Minecraft collabs are usually split POV because both views can contain interesting things.

Pekora will collab with Kiara on EN Micra server this Friday btw

>>9785940
>Pekora will collab on EN Micra
ooh
>with Kiara
I sleep
hopefully some minecraft autists like ina or ame or moona can come crash the party

>>9785875
Like the other anon said, it'd be split POV, but Gura pulls 35k people just wandering around the JP server. I wonder if a Pekora-Gura minecraft collab would manage to do 100k combined?

>>9786322
>moona can come crash the party
kek, that would be great

>>9786322
I hope Pekora isn't too rude to her.

>>9786427
there isnt much on the EN server
i say 10-15k for kaira and 30-35k for pekora.

>>9785940
>Pekora will collab with Kiara on EN Micra server this Friday
What timezone?

>>9784644
Why is 2nd outfit gura so ugly

>>9784405
>whole board is having a numbers meltdown it seems...
I believe this all started when the Pomu-poster who was gloating over Kuzuha numbers, overreacted to some NijiEN criticism that was given back to him. It then made him go mad. Now it’s a cycle of trolling on all sides.

>>9786497
No idea why Kiara scheduled this now honestly.
At least wait for a minecraft arc where everyone builds some cool shit for a week or wait until Gura is finished with her temple.
Right now everything in the EN server is just PPP. Phoenixton, and Ame rail.
There's cooler shit at the entrance of the JP server portal than everything in the EN server lmao.

>>9787017
Pekora assessing the terrain she will use is good content.

>>9787017
Maybe she doesn't care about numbers. Did that cross your mind?

>>9787017
When is EN going to build their side of the portal?

>>9787017
She saw Gura and Ina doing a collab with Aqua and Marine so she felt like she had to do something to keep up with them. it's how Kiara does things out of fear of being left behind.
>>9787223
Good joke anon.

>>9787223
No one said shit about numbers, it's about content. The numbers will be fine since it's Pekora's first time on the EN server.
What is there to even show Pekora right now?

>>9787287
When the collab ban for EN2 is gone so they can help out too.

>>9787347
Maybe they will focus more on interactions with each other and because of that the stream will be full of SOVL. (This is my cope)

>>9787287
This month, its basically been all but outright stated that the timeframe for the server merger will be in October from what the En gals have talked about on stream.

>>9787287
Definitely waiting for collab ban to end for HoloCouncil.
From what we've seen so far, a few of them might be pretty good builders, for HoloEN standards at least.

>>9785742
Everybody in this thread knew that Kuzuha was being buffed far beyond his actual popularity and that HAL is basically a 2view without some shitty Apex tournament.

>>9785548
The fact that he wants to learn makes him one of the good ones relatively speaking.

>>9787549
Everybody that's not a schizo, that means very few of us.

>>9785742
Which thread? I find it funny whenever someone breaks containment on numbers and starts shitting up other threads and the catalogue. Especially when its using info that we've already talked about here and have context for, but the rest of the board doesn't.

>>9787549
>basically a 2view without some shitty Apex tournament.
Well that's not really true lol.
He still gets around 10-15k with Apex without competition and 2-4k with other games.

>>9787644

>>9780126

>>9787644
Pomu schizo broke out containment and went into a shitpost streak in several threads. People don't have the context for the numbers, like you said, and some of them unironically don't even know who Kuzuha is. Massive shitshow, kinda funny though.

>>9787718
in this thread if you don't get 50k a stream and 150k a special event you're a flop

>>9783316
T. Poorfag chumpedo

Reminder that it's just a few SEAniggers from a discord obsessed with hating on Niji.

>>9787839
me on my 222 phones

>>9787770
>>9787799
Thanks anons, I see it now, I somehow glazed over the thread 'cause the numbers didn't surprise me.
Heh. I think I'm partially to bring 'cause I saw the pomu poster and responded with a snide 'nijiEN' comment out of jest. The poor lad's gone from here though, so we can at least have a more civilized numbers thread for a bit.

>>9787819
rent free lmao

I wonder if this is a good sign for Sana.
She peaked at 3.5k CCV for this stream, but has 7.2k likes and the stream is still ongoing, so the VOD viewers aren't here yet.
Even if her CCV is bad (let's just be honest), it seems like she still has a pretty active fanbase that's actively engaging.
For comparison, Fauna's ongoing stream is 1 hour shorter, 7k peak CCV, and also at 7k likes right now.

>>9788105
A fan who sticks around for the whole stream is worth 100 who just come in for a few minutes and leave a sympathy like.

>>9788105
just see her horoscopes VOD
thats her floor.

>>9788105
For someone that just started streaming that's great, but since this is the holy numbers thread, I need to point out that she is begging for views in the gutter, and that council is a failure.

>>9788157
LOL That's objectively false because both count as 1 VOD view, but the fan that leaves a like is contributing more.
CCV is a number that constantly fluctuates so 1 viewer means nothing to a mass of 3000.

>>9788105
and anya gets 3-5k likes per vod. who cares?

>>9788157
>saviorfag cope

>>9787893
Lile chikim on your schizo head?

>>9788317
6600 now

>>9788274
Anya doesn't get 3-5k likes during the stream, it's after the VOD watchers check it out. Sana is getting 7.4k while the stream is ongoing. This VOD is going to get 10k+ likes by tomorrow.
>who cares?
It's an interesting phenomenon. Even for HoloJP streams, you rarely see likes on an ongoing stream be 2x the peak CCV.

>>9788271
If your near-sighted enough to think only in terms of a single stream, sure.

>>9788386
>It's an interesting phenomenon.
is what happens when you stretch your viewers across different timezones.
Gura, ame, and to some degree hakos and sana have this becasue the last 2 jumping timelsots and the other are just popular across different regions.

>>9788315
>Lile chikim
were you seething so hard you couldn't even type properly?
i replied to a post about kiara, meanwhile you brought up chumpedos out of nowhere
rent. fucking. free.

>>9788317
I wonder what it will get. Morning Japan time isn't traditionally a good timeslot for numbers. I'm betting 38k

>>9788505
and definitely mori. She streams on jp/eu time but has many fans on us who catch it later

>>9787287
few hints point to possibly next week or the week after. next week is the end of en2 collab ban. also mori doing her 10hr minecraft grind probably means she's going to try and actually build something on her own this time.

>>9788740
Yeah, not a good time for the JP fans so probably not more than 40k. In a more JP pandering timeslot it would break 60k easy.

>>9788740
>morning Japan time isn't a good timeslot
But anon-chama, that's Gura's regular timeslot. Are you implying her regular 20k~ CCV isn't good?

>>9788740
>Morning Japan time isn't traditionally a good timeslot for numbers.
Anon, they're in lockdown. Morning streams in Japan have made numbers provided the right kind of content is placed at the right time. More importantly, this is an SSR EN-JP collab featuring top holos across the board.

Have you not seen the waiting room? It can easily make 40k+

>>9789226
Here is to give some perspective: there are some 80k people watching the news live there now

>>9789564
watching the morning news is a very common thing all around the world

Talking about timeslots, when is the best one to pull numbers during a weekend? Is there a good slot to get good numbers of JP, SEA, NA viewers at same time?

weekend is free for all
EXCEPT friday night. people actually go out then

>>9789641
True, my point is that it’s not too early for nips to be consuming live streams.
Roboco, Choco, Lamy and Moona will have started by then too.

What I’m really curious is about whether ClockGirl will pick up the outflow of that collab.

20k already. It would be sad if this beats the anniversary stream.

>>9789699
>when is the best one to pull numbers during a weekend?
Coco got good moggings on her regular Reddit Review Slot.

>>9789753
Kronii picking up the outflow will depend on whether Gura would put an hour break between the collab and her karaoke stream.

>>9789763
nigga what you talking about it has 10k waiting.
Also there is nothing wrong with it beating the anniversary is the same company and is an internationa collab where they are trying a different format (aka having an actual translator)

>>9789763
Why would it be sad?

>>9789763
>sad
How is getting big numbers sad in a numbers thread?

>>9789825
I truly doubt she wouldn’t. These Mario Party streams, when girls are having fun, are a scream party and must definitely tax the voice

>>9789825
Isn't the karaoke tomorrow?

>>9789564
Demographics? What are they? People that watch the news aren't necessarily the same people that watch VTubers.

I just go by their own numbers. There's clearly some excitement for this collab.

>>9789929
I am not even talking about that anon, I’m talking about whether it’s too early for nips. It’s not.

>>9789825
Gura's Karaoke is tomorrow bud, check her schedule.
That being said, depending on how long the Mario party collab is, possibly. It is Kronii's first MC stream, and we know she's been working a ton off-stream so people will wanna see just what she's managed to cook up down there.

>>9789825
karaoke is tomorrow, by the same time

>>9789699
The best time slot is the one that Coco had for Meme Review.

11:00a/12:00p JST
10:00p/11:00p EST

It basically is the most optimal audience slot for Hololive.

>>9789993
A mario party game is usually 1 hour-ish, plus some more time for introductions-prep and some final chatting i guess, so right on time for Kronii. She should get a decent influx of viewers, especially since it's a minecraft stream.

Why is Choco the least superchatted holo? She's so low on the ranking that she's below several midget tier Nijis like Dola.

>>9790430
she got unmonetized for a long time and also is not that constant with her streams

>>9790430
Demonetization hit her when YT went spastic against ASMR in 2019. She kind of never really recovered from it.

aqua lost the chinks and now has to suck EN cock to make up for her lost numbers huh

>>9790635
Chinks deserve to get cucked for being retarded.

>>9789993
This collab will be 2 hours, Kronii will be sitting around 8-12k for an hour and then Kronii & IRyS will be buffed
IRyS (might get 12k), Kronii (might get 20k)
The collab might be a good buff, but we know chumbuds rarely watch others

Niji GODS, I fucking kneel. Again.

>>9790635
Or maybe Gura just simply invited her, remember how the shark prefered Akukin over Usaken & Shiraken?
If Aqua said no, then she hates her but when she said yes then she leeches? Classic Haters

>>9790759
Why exactly? Is this some high level nijicope?

>25k waiting
Oh yeah, this will make numbers.

Using the Umisea logo on her intro, is this legit going to become a new unit?

>>9790596
>>9790628
That only lasted a few months. Her sc per week is abysmally low, she only made $411 this week.

>>9790676
Single POV collab ON gura's channel during Gura's timeslot is far far different than
>Shitty Kiara debuff building a statue in MC not in her timeslot
>Shitty game collab not in her timeslot (ds3)
I said 40k, and the waiting from of 25k indicates that I may have even undershot.

>>9790779
this collab reeks of management meddling no thanks

Im gonna go for 80k for this collab, not only is it on Gura's channel for once but Marine and Aqua have big followings that are more willing to show up than chumbuds.

>>9791307
Sorry, I mistyped, I meant 28k. Sorry for looking like I was falseflagging

>>9791370
>Sorry, I mistyped, I meant 19k. Sorry for looking like I was falseflagging

At this rate it'll probably top out around 40k

>>9791307
Marine and Aqua fans will watch the archive later, this is too early for them.

>>9791506
Yes, this is way out of their timeslot, only the early risers that normally catch their vods will be up since Aqua tends to stream pretty late for her songing streams (10pm JST) and marine is also an evening streamer.

>first stall nearing 30k
May reach 40 with easy

>>9791700
They're still on introductions, just wait for when they actually start playing.

>>9791370
>>9791468
Stop falseflagging, I meant 4.8k and you will never meet it.

70k or everyone involved needs to graduate

oh no they chose the worst map

>>9791700
>>9791849
Right now it's picking 1k per min, in 10 min people will know.

>>9790635
>>9791893
>>9791185

>>9791893
S-sorry. I meant 7.0k

>>9791893
YOU need to graduate, hopefully from living.

>>9791893
Did I say 70k? My hand slipped, I meant 37k

>>9791893
WHOOPS i meant 70 people only

>Marine
>Aqua
>Gura
>Ina
>not even one million viewers
What a failure

CCV growth is quickly loosing momentum now. This doesn't look all that promising. Going to settle for 45k.

>>9792346
aqua isn't very popular anymore. marine is one-dimensional. gura is boring. ina is probably the one bringing the most viewers to this collab.

>>9792346
Damn, imagine how fast the chat if a live stream ever reaches this.

>>9792539
AHEM

>>9792529
I'll give you extra points for leading me in with the start of the post.

>>9791893
Sorry, meant to say 70 million

>>9792539
Just look at the Nintendo E3 streams that hit 1mil live viewers. It was stupid.

>>9792619
what exactly is wrong with what i said? ina has the highest average viewership out of the four outside of 3D events. let me guess, you still think gura's 3 million dead subs matter

>>9792529
>>9792808
Why does the retardation always reach peak in burger time?

>>9792529
This is based on you taste anon, no matter how boring or one dimensional they are for you, You know Gura, Marine and Aqua are the reason why this collab will have more than 40k

>>9792435
Man, Marine reach that in zatsudans. So it is true that chumkeks doesn't care when Gura does collabs with other Holos

>>9792808
This is pretty good numbers thread bait, I'm gonna throw you a free (You).

>>9792808
At least post your cherrypicked pictures. This is just too low effort

>>9792808
>highest average viewership out of the four outside of 3D events
Anon, the disparity is not even funny.

Here are their stats for August

>18853 median :: 286041 hrs watched :: 20898 avg :: marine (8 streams, 14 hrs streamed)
>17153 median :: 309778 hrs watched :: 18229 avg :: gura (6 streams, 18 hrs streamed)
>8537 median :: 234836 hrs watched :: 15969 avg :: aqua (8 streams, 21 hrs streamed)
>6677 median :: 237240 hrs watched :: 9066 avg :: inanis (10 streams, 30 hrs streamed)

>>9792920
>>9793005
>>9793054
i accept your concession(s).

These are some disappointing numbers. They should have done it during JP primetime on Marine's channel instead of trying to get Gura fans to watch a collab.

>>9792966
It doesn't helps that this collab is objectively shit so far.

>>9793105
I accept your retardation

>>9793118
True, if Gura ever collabs with Pekora or Miko i hope they'll do it on a better timeslot and Not in Gura's Channel
Do Chumbuds really hate other chuubas?

>reduced to samefagging now

INA I LOVE YOU

>40k achieved
Anyone betting on 45?

>>9793416
It's more like indifference than hate.

I'm kind of surprised by the proportion of green in the chat though. Are tourists to Gura's channel just keeping quiet?

>>9793670
45k is going to rely on this getting to a really close game in the last few turns, lots of screaming, and lots of star theft.
So not impossible. It's almost at 41k now.

>>9793799
Anniversary numbers:

>Gura
36K peak viewers
50% of chats were in english
42% of chats were from members

>Mori
20K peak viewers
59% of chats were in english
22% of chats were from members

>Kiara
21K peak viewers
54% of chats were in english
28% of chats were from members

>Ina
18K peak viewers
39% of chats were in english
42% of chats were from members

>Ame
15K peak viewers
45% of chats were in english
35% of chats were from members

I must admit this en-jp collab is kinda wired. They they just burp random noises, probably the most autistic shit I've ever seen

Sana appears to be cultivating a very dedicated, small following that will watch her over anything else.
2.4k still watching her rn.
>>9793799
Live chat or top chat? I think top chat takes greens higher than greys as well.

>>9791185
Aqua's Gura's oshi though and Marine has expressed in that one Hololive video regarding holo seating arrangements that she'd pick Ina and Gura for people to sit beside her over other JPs.

>>9794090
That's every Mario Party. The fact Aqua and Gura are social awkward as fuck makes it even funnier

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
>Marine is "dry bones"
OH NO NO HAHAHAHAHA

>>9794113
That's just the hardcore portion of her fanbase left who'd watch the 3rd stream of a debuff game

>>9793875
What does this mean? There's no way that % of chat was non-English in any of those. Are they counting emotes as not English?

Man we really attracted a lot of non-regulars here in the numbers thread.

>>9794330
>Are they counting emotes as not English?
Of course.

>>9794113
Sana is more like...a very strong Niji EN or Holo ID, rather than a proper Holo EN.

it would have been 70k+ if it was on marines ch JP primetime

To take a break from the doomposts, here are some other Holo Mario Party collabs for comparison.

Pekora/Miko/Suisei: 39k peak
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/P5N1munYDnI

Mori/Ollie/Coco: 33k peak
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/a1YcUQKbh5w

Mori/Coco/Watame/Fubuki: 27k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/UAH_wGEUtAw

Marine/Coco/Noel/Flare: 44k (1 day after Coco's graduation announcement)
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/7VKhUBrpGjs
I don't think the others get higher then 25k.

Today's superchats

>>9794530
Aren't Baelz numbers comparable to hers?

>>9794330
Obviously lol

>>9794489
Ok so that's kind of a stupid metric, there could be 0 foreigners in the chat.

>>9794622
Baelz feels like an actual HoloID in EN

>>9794606
Nene is still inclining? What the fuck, how can she get so many supas with the live views she usually gets? Her viewers must've bought into the husband stuff pretty hard

>>9794581
Lemme get the shitposts outta the way.
>3.3 million dead subs
>not 100k watching, dead subs
>etc doomposting etc etc

>>9794606
what was the Pikamee occasion? Or just a good stream?

>>9794814
She is the true idol of Hololive. She did fansigns for 2 days

Stream is on Guras channel, en, barely any english spoken. Wtf is this.

>>9794606
>The Luto moggings are over
Sad, come back queen Luto

>>9794933
what the fuck did you expect nigger?

>>9794814
She is too likeable.

>>9794904
Not sure, I got recommended her for the first time in what seems like ages by Youtube, and she was streaming in her normal non-chibi outfit. Might be related to the new VOMs being added?

>>9794606
Red Rushia beat Green1

>>9794581
thanks anon

>>9794581
>06/02
>1 day after Coco's graduation announcement
But that's wrong. Her announcement was on 06/09

>>9794606
Who are 3-4? Are those random nijis?

>>9794581
Mario Party collab on Hima's channel got 60k: https://playboard.co/en/video/j9RA0b3pBeU

>>9795173
Warabe is from Noripro

>>9795159
My bad. For some reason I thought it was on June 1st. It did seem a bit low for a fresh Coco-buffed Mario party stream.

>>9795269
Impressive, impressive. That definitely beats any Mario Party stream Hololive has ever done. I'm still impressed at the numbers for this collab, but it does put it into perspective. Thanks anon.

>>9795269
Dokuzuhonsha collabs are like full HoloFantasy collabs. They're in a tier of their own.

>>9795495
How 'uncommon' are they? I must admit I don't keep up on Nijis except whatever pops up in this thread.

>>9795495
Is this cope? Because only Kuzuha is the only top tier niji there while this holo collab has second and third/fourth ace of holoJP and top two of nijiEN

>>9794606
>Naruse Naru
Isnt he one of the least popular nijis overall? Like being bottom in CCV?

>>9794904
>>9795068
She was doing a clip watchalong and she played this one and everyone spammed SCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGP9UaVOW_0

>>9794814
She's smart and knows what she's doing with these types of streams.
These streams are her signing her autograph with a picture of herself for every SC she gets (I'm not sure what the minimum is) along with the name of the donator.
They can request a custom signature or doodle if they're chatting on stream.
Nene showing her experience as an idol.

>>9795737
yeah, he's Hajime tier, has around 100-200 views

>>9795724
wait Gura and Ina are Nijis?!

>>9795614
From what I've seen, around 4 times a year?
But Dokuzuhonsha has been a thing since 2019 and is one of the most popular groups in Nijisanji.
They swapped out Honhima for Chaika for a 3D poker chase collab and got 51k, outperforming last night's Chronoir/Fuwa/Kagami 3D collab (47k).

>>9795810
*holoEN

>>9795614
I think you can understand how special they are by seeing her numbers one week before the collab. I went to her channel and checked. She was struggling to get 100k views and then this has 60k CCV so I will say this was pretty special but it really does put numbers into perspective. This is an insane perfromance.

>>9795737
He is but he hit 100k today, and he doesn't do as terribly on superchats, just on views

>>9795915
Male Niji buff.

>>9795766
She did it for literally every SC, even the light blue ones. You'll only get her attention for a custom if you paid more though, which is fair.

>>9795724
You are right anon, nijisanji really is the biggest company and everyone watches them while hololive could never hope to compete. Also Kuzuha's dick tastes very good, only until he returns to his normal views numbers a month from now of course.

>>9795737
I think he reached 100k, still pretty good supas on that, better than every NijiEN 100k subs superchat except Pomu´s but that was a special one

>1 3m subbed vtuber
>3 1m+ subbed vtubers
>only 43k
meanwhile rabbit playing kusoge game

oh shit, it peaked 44k!

So can we conclude here now that chumbuds really do hate Gura collabing with others? The increased viewers from her regular ones are probably from the others in the collab rather than inactive cumbuds popping in.

>>9795724
Spoken like a newfag who doesn't even know what Dokuzuhonsha is. It's a family unit spanning back to 2019.

Educate yourself.
https://playboard.co/en/video/Ox8rNmKQRsE
https://playboard.co/en/video/e__LwrjH0Ug
https://playboard.co/en/video/dGdhX-tFm7c
https://playboard.co/en/video/g0ZblGqH8Ew
https://playboard.co/en/video/Y5uB4eyAwpg
https://playboard.co/en/video/WTyVjv_rD8I
https://playboard.co/en/video/uVwAbgjIpO0

>>9796051
Holding it during EN primetime is a mistake in terms of number maximization, they should've picked a Saturday afternoon in JP. Chumbuds aren't known to show up for collabs.
>>9796132
Would say it's less hate and more indifference.

>>9796132
They only care about Gura really, not that that's a problem for her.

>>9796173
only Kuzuha is top tier streamer there
stop coping

>>9796286
How is it cope? You're talking like a retarded newfag
It's timeloop central in this thread. "Duhh what is this chuuba it isn't Hololive so I don't understand their numbers and I also don't understand Hololive numbers because I only understand sub count"

>>9796175
>Would say it's less hate and more indifference.
If that was then they should still have turned up for a Gura stream even if they wont check out the other girls' channels later.

>>9796286
fucking newfags shitting up the thread

>>9794606
Nenechi absolutely killing it with the autograph streams
Was Warabe's birthday countdown and Noripro gonna Noripro
Miko is quietly doing really well with superchats, after Mori does it she could beat Kanae to $1 million
Ryushen's 3.0 is cute and I want to fuck whatever holes he/she/it has
Tomeru has been streaming for 10 days now holy fuck, this is I think the 4th or 5th time she charted for the same stream

Selen is having her membership opening stream, hope some numbersperg is scraping the data or that she says how many she has by the end of the stream

>>9796173
Dola is best mommy

>>9796441
>they should still have turned up
You are talking like she only got 10k viewers in this stream.

>>9796489
Went from 5k playing apex this morning down to 1.3k for membership.
Guess her main draw really is mostly Apex.

>>9796173
my wife is there

>>9796489
Would be nice if she could numberfag it herself on the stream like Pomu did.

>>9796441
They aren't interested in seeing anyone besides Gura and a collab means there's less Gura time simply because she's sharing the spotlight. You're thinking of JP-style dedicated fans who try to catch every second their oshi is on screen while these are casuals who will see the thumbnail, see three other holos, and decide to wait for the Gura clips.

Ina, as usual, dunking on their mates

>>9796132
Gura's outer halo of casual fans do not like collabs, except with Ame, and they definitely don't like streams that are 90% Japanese.

>>9796542
Might have passed it if it was a bit longer, but they said this is a 1 hour collab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VKhUBrpGjs&t=0s
Marine's VOD is at 730k right now after 3 months so it'll be interesting to see how long it takes for this Gura VOD to overtake it.

>>9796682
>Guess her main draw really is mostly Apex.
This is true, but all membership streams have low viewcounts. Irys's only had 2.9k.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ict9WsQuzCA

>>9795766
damn, that's both brilliant and distasteful

>>9796710
Pomu did? How many members she have?

>>9797121
1600 by the last time she mentioned it.

>>9797121
a bit over 1600 by the end of the stream

Another victory for THE BOYS.

>>9794581
>44k
This will match that one then

>>9797051
what is surprising is that all of lazulight had higher numbers on their membership opening streams, but Selen absolutely moggs them normally

Another collab with this same group but in JP time, 20:00 JST, on the 17th.

So this is all supposed to be leading up to something? I'm going to guess original song. It really stinks of a unit forced into existence by management though.

>membership apex streams
>screen turns green
lol apexfags

>>9797371
>21th place
Vtubing us reclining hard

>>9797746
It's 21:00, EOP-chama

>>9797670
People were complaining that management didn't do anything to facilitate collabs between branches so here you go.

>>9796489
>>9796682
>selen
>Went from 5k playing apex this morning down to 1.3k for membership.
hmm

>>9797670
Seethe harder Kiara, this is the first EN JP unit, and her forcing out holotori hahahahaha

>>9797670
If it was forced, they'd have sent in Pekora and Shion.

doesnt this fall on the same day as the anniversary collab?

>>9797670
Gura and Ina were always the ENs that Marine wanted to collab with anyways. Aqua's the only odd one out.

>>9797670
chicken hands have typed this

>>9797746
yeah nijisanji fell off i saw kuzuha channel working at denny's the other day

>>9797991
Same day as Kiara-Pekora collab

>that kronii stream
jesas I don't know the peak anymore

>UMISEA is a unit
>event week
>4 videos
>likely one MV or corporate sponsor collab on 9/18
Interesting...

>>9797670
It's on the official channel and A-chan is involved.
100% being pushed by Cover.

>>9797991
was for>>9797371

>>9797670
Maybe maybe not. Marine has talked about in the past how much she likes Gura and she chose Ina for her seating plan. Actually didn't she chose Gura too? Gura has also talked about how much she likes Aqua in the past as well. If management did anything they just brought together people who already wanted to collab.

>>9798122
I told you guys about catching the outflow
>"illegal view funelling" anon, don't look!

>>9797670
>It really stinks of a unit forced into existence by management though.
Just like Hologens, NEGIU, Chronoir, Raindrops...etc
Welcome to corpo chuubas.

>>9798226
no no, if it was a normal minecraft stream it would be different
but no one really expected this

>>9798181
>pushed by
I can see
>Gura or Aqua collabing against their will
kek, do you even watch Hololive?

>>9798181
It definitely seems like Cover's involved yea. How much of it is completely forced vs natural desires of the talent being helped along is something we aren't privy to, but is going to spawn rrats.

>>9797472
her numbers are rising pretty quickly now, will probably be the NijiEN mem opening that has the best numbers by the end

holy shit that Gura vod view

Kronii at 15k now.

>>9798122
Kronii's past streams were games that were pretty niche or was a series so they wouldn't really show her peak, this is also her first Minecraft stream.

>>9798321
>but no one really expected
See >>9789753
>What I’m really curious is about whether ClockGirl will pick up the outflow of that collab.
cted this

APOLOGIZE!

>>9798181
Stop it kiara!! UMISEA > Holotori

>>9797371
>Another victory for THE BOYS.

>most popular male vtubers. period
>live3d
>best JP time slot
>47.5k

hmmm

ILLEGAL VIEW FUNELLING!
>I'll calling my lawyer

>>9797623
That 9/17 8PM JST collab will have a better number than this 9AM JST collab.

>>9798511
holocope
remember big number > small number

>>9798181
So that's why the members are all water types LMAO

>>9798345
Likely new viewers to the channel that trigger YouTube AI. The alternative is that JOP were really the ones holding it down for the stream given the CCV/VOD pattern checks out even on JP streams. We'll see in a couple of hours.

>>9798226
is kronii collabing with the 4 of them, retardchama? Kuzuha boosts his mates for minutes then starts his own stream. Umisea simply ended.

>>9796489
>sorted by most live watched (peak ccv)
>apex
>apex
>apex
>apex

>>9798335
Never said it was against their will retard.
Gura said in the last stream she was just going to stop being so worried and just go along with things now.
Aqua always participates in official events.
They said the reasoning for the group is that they're all ocean themed.
Also where the fuck did these Kiara posters come from.

>>9798736
please stop

>>9798725
200k at the end of the 1 hour stream.............
44k max ccv. Yea. I don't believe you Youtube. That's over 4x viewer churn, smells like bullshit.

>>9798681
>Another victory for THE BOYS.

>most popular male vtubers. period
>live3d
>best JP time slot
>47.5k

hmmm

17k on Kronii. This is higher than what Mumei's got with her Mumei x Gura arc.

>>9798782
>Also where the fuck did these Kiara posters come from.
Probably from their designated containment zone.

>>9796132
No we can't

>>9797670
>Spice Love
>Negi U
>UMISEA
How many groups does Aqua have to join?
Meanwhile Subaru seems to like shilling NegiU

>>9798782
I thought Gura said she was going to stop being worried about what management would say and start going against them.

>>9798511
>>9798927
Bot

They really want to box push the clock bitch. Even Sana ended at the same time.

>>9798899
Makes sense to me. The cast must have attracted a lot of people to check it out, but the stream itself was too boring to sustain a higher CCV. Also, I'm not 100% sure youtube doesn't count double views for people who leave and come back to check on the stream while it still going.

>>9798952
Mumei peaked at 19k for that stream, but Kronii could beat that.

>>9798755
>inb4 female tourney king.
Kuzuha for comparison
>apex
>apex
>powerpro
>among us
>powerpro
>pokemon unite

>>9799055
>remember big number > small number

>most popular male vtubers. period
>live3d
>best JP time slot
>47.5k

hmmm

>>9796751
>>9796132
>>9796959
I swear you guys already have the idea of "chumbuds don't like collabs" and are just looking to reinforce your biases.

>>9799079
Well, we know for sure that there's fuckery afoot with CCV, so I can believe SOME viewer churn happening. I was expecting like, 120-130k CCV though.

>>9799023
Subaru has been very proactive about growing as an idol for a while now. When every single offer doesn't land on your lap like with Aqua, you have no choice but to try and make the best of the opportunities you get.

>>9797623
That one will have multiple viewpoints so don't get your hopes up

>>9799029
She's not gonna go against them. It's more like Ame's "I'll do it first and then ask later" approach. If management says no, then she'll stop. Waiting for management's approval takes time sometimes.

>>9799222
Just wait till Gura gets 50k+ tomorrow for her unarchived anniversary karaoke stream. They'll actually never stop after that.

>>9799298
>I was expecting like, 120-130k CCV though.
kek, for a regular ass game, 9AM in Japan? You're out of your mind

>>9799145
you can post holo's bigger number in the same day or stay coping lol

>>9799079
>'m not 100% sure youtube doesn't count double views for people who leave and come back to check on the stream while it still going.
it doesn't, it just adds more to your watch time total.

>nijifalseflagger gets shit on
>makes 3rd kuzuha bait thread of the day
Like clockwork

>>9799403
Huh, I would kneel but Kanae number was yesterday so I have kneeled to that already.

Today, so far, Gura takes it

>>9799303
Its a shame that Subaru always get bad luck like her live 3d getting postponed.

>>9799382
FUCK I meant VOD views, Goddamnit. 120k-130k VOD VIEWS at the end with 40k CCV for a 1 hour stream makes sense to me, 200k was higher than expected.

>>9799382
i think he meant total views

>>9799334
But I saw another thread saying she was going to start fighting back and tell management to fuck off?

>>9799029
Gura basically said "I don't give a fuck anymore".
The fact she decided to randomly jump to the JP server and flirt with Lamy by kissing her and then jumped back to the EN server means her attitude completely changed.
OId Gura would be panicking at the thought of joining the JP server without permission from her manager.
>>9799023
Subaru is going full idol, she has stated as much.
She even "jokingly" asked how she can get more gachikois.
>>9799303
Aqua is proactive about getting offers now. Aqua talked about it early this year that she realized she needs to work and push for getting those offers instead of just hoping that an opportunity falls on her lap.

>>9798290
Where do I find the timeline where 20k views is still exceptionally high for a holo stream and I can still fool myself into feeling like it's a FAMILY?

>>9799534
Stop threadreading and watch streams.
She said she's going to stop filtering herself constantly for fear of getting cancelled or taken out of context. She also said she's learned to take management rejections in stride and move on.

>>9799560
Why "holo" specifically? There is no shortage of chuubas that will absolutely die for your attention.

>>9798636
The 9/17 collab is split POV unfortunately for us numberfags.

>>9799534
Only quitters say that. She just upgraded her membership badge from 6 months to 2 years. She's here to stay.

>>9798782
Probably KFP buttmad that their oshi isn't in a company mandated idol group and has their own company paid for MV and Song

>>9799687
I can see Marine beating 44k

>>9799534
She just said she would speak up when she has a problem not that she's fighting management you retarded newfag

>>9799222
And you are one of the more dedicated chumbuds who refuses to believe that a large part of her viewer base aren't casual. Nothing wrong with having casuals in the first place. Offer up your explanation for why Gura's numbers aren't elevated as much during a collab solely on her channel, unlike literally every other vtuber in existence, or accept that you're just in denial for some reason.

>>9799743
Coco had a members badge prepared for 2 years
She didn't even last 1 year lmao

>>9799687
Dang.
Well, we can see how much of an audience Gura can pull in JP primetime.

>>9799760
depends on what they wanna do. I suspect it is a sponsored stream, though, so not huge numbers

>>9799802
The thing is you are using this collab to "prove" that chumbuds don't like collabs when she got almost twice her usual numbers. It makes no sense

>>9799403
Shut up tourney king
The whole vtubing is declining
Holo and niji need to organise tournaments to save vtuber world

>>9799560
That's implying there's anything wrong with corpo-formed groups.
This collab wasn't even close to bad for actual first time interaction between multiple of them. Ame and Roboco's first collab was awkward as fuck, but the trio collab with Towa was kino.
The only unfortunate thing is when Gura calls Aqua a "sweaty onion", she won't understand what it means.

>>9799339
Just like last time, right?
Maybe you should face reality.

>>9799928
Hololive tourneys aren't very successful unfortunately

>>9799897
Did Coco start with 6-months badges? She lasted at least a year and a half.

This 糸 gone to shit already.

>>9799925
She got 194k for a costume reveal, her numbers should easily be in the 60k range for a collab.

>>9799944
I mean shit, they tried to force gen 1 unity for a concert and the whole thing fell apart right after the concert ended.
It basically died permanently when Matsuri attacked Haachama publicly on Twitter.

>>9800202
Not sure if this is bait but 糸 means string

>>9800144
What happen to your emperor hal same retard.

>>9800296
Yeah and Noel got 140k during her anniversary, she should easily be getting 40k for her regular streams
>>9800313
I fucking hate niggers like you so much

>>9800313
Ok fair enough. Gen 1 chemistry blows.

>>9800313
It wasn't the company that forced the gen 1 concert, it was Matsuri who suggested it and pushed for it to happen.

>>9800431
>140k during her anniversary
It was a costume, not an anniversary.
And don't respond to retards lol.

>>9800431
Are you really comparing a 1 million subs vtuber with someone nearly triple her subs?

>>9800313
>>9800458
Matsuri pushed for it. Without her, the whole thing fell apart.

>>9798226
Kronii being a total minecraft autist could be huge for her, this can push her even further ahead of her genmates and probably further than every EN except Gura.

so it seems like the other umisea collab will be at JST primetime, will it match the first one? There isn't a surprise anymore

>>9800584
Do you still think CCV scales linearly with subs?
How new are you faggots?

>>9800618
Don't get cocky clockfag. This is just leftover viewers from the collab and Mumei still got more the first time she played it.

>>9800836
He's not new, he's doing that "pretending to be retarded" thing

>>9800835
Split POV, so it won't be as big a number.
Should still be pretty big numbers individually regardless.

>>9800836
Definitely not,otherwise a 1 sub 1 ccv guy can beat any top streamer.

>>9800836
>Noel
>1 million subs
>140k costume thanks to tourists
>Gura
>3 million subs
>194k costume because of high amount of fans
If you can't even understand this you might be retarded, Gura has a higher number of fans than Noel and that cannot be disputed at all

>>9800842
not anymore lol

>>9801134
>Noel 140k
Pre YT

>>9800842
not anymore and that was basically an impromptu collab with gura

20k wew

>>9801302
The real test comes in subsequent streams of course, but its a solid first showing that's for sure.

>>9798342
Hope some dragoon scrub the membership numbers later. I still doubt she’ll pass Elira and Pomu today, most Apex fags don’t really watch Selen if she’s not playing it. She doesn’t even have the most superchat $ in EN.

>>9800915
>so it won't be as big a number.
I wouldn't be all that surprised if at least Marine manages to beat today's numbers.

Kronii
>20.2k
>$3.9k

>>9801675
That won't happen with a splitcollab with Gura and Aqua involved

>>9802245
Unlike EN1, EN2 has a de facto #1 in all metrics.

>20k for Kronii Minecraft
Why?

>>9803347
>first stream
>collab funneling
>people were expecting her to be Mori 2.0, got the best minecraft player in EN

>>9803347
>Most popular EN2 member
>Biggest game for numbers for Holos
>First Minecraft stream
You tell me

>>9803347
She's the first actual minecraft autist of EN.

>>9803407
She's organizing the messy stuffs EN Girls. It IS the Best MC Content LMAO

>>9803347
She pulled 14k for stories untold these numbers were expected.

How many gook superchats is Kronii getting?

>>9803347
She did some stuff off stream just to have something nice to show to the viewers and is a maniac for organization
She deserves to get that +20k

>>9803347
>huge tits
>sex voice
>minecraft autismo
>voice actng

>>9803951
>autismo
eai mano

>>9803347
19k just by sorting chests. Kronii I kneel.

>>9802651
So EN2 is like JP2 and JP4, one powerhouse dominates the metrics?

>>9802651
But Gura is number 1 in EN

>>9804562
As a gura fan, watching gura's SC number laughing and crying. (Although she is pretty high in SC if you consider how much she streams, pretty high average than Mori)

>>9804691
Oh yeah I forgot about SCs.

So Irys is gonna be on the server soon, will Kronii lose viewers? Gain for a possible impromptu collab?

Gura and Marine already reaping benefits.

>>9801538
Unless she says the amount it won't be a real thing, I'm membered to people who in their first month got something like 3 or 4k membaships yet all their posts and videos get 1000 likes on a good day

>>9804931
Not sure if bait but they only update in 10k increments.

>>9804474
JP2 - Subaru, Aqua and Ayame can top some metrics (total hourly watched, SCs, subs, median CCV).
JP4 - It looks like a close race between Watame and Kanata.

>>9805094
Polls are a better indicator. More people vote on those than give likes.

>>9805602
I should have mentioned JP4 when Coco was there. But anyway, not sure Kronii dominating in EN2 (for now) is a good indicator for the gen.

>>9803347
just wanna add there was no competition

Why no one cares about Petra?
She literally collab with Pomu & Fish in minecraft and still can't reach 1k views

>>9806915
>collab with Pomu & Fish
>splitted audience
you answered. + im not sure that MC is buff game for nijiEN

>>9806915
They need to work on their chemistry first instead of forcing things to happen.

>>9807292
it wasnt a split audience thing, but it wasnt really a collab, it wasnt announced and Pomu and Finana just showed up ingame for a while, not being on voice chat or anything

>>9807400
who are you talking about? They have good chemistry, but this was just a short minecraft cameo thing not a real collab

>>9806915
Wrong timeslot shes a niji jp she will incline in a few hours.

Numbers

>>9807437
>+ im not sure that MC is buff game for nijiEN
do not expect same lvl of hype for nijiEN MC server.

for Hololive MC is basically All-stars MMO where every (even the smallest) members can leave their mark in the same place(server) where Pekora/Marin/Aqua/.. will play, +occasionally collab with with really big (Kuzuha/Kanae level) chubas.

add here holo-box pushing

>>9807820
Kronii
>16.7k
iRys
>10k
oh shit

Kronii started reading SC
>17.5k avg
>20.7k peak
>$5.8k