/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Why does Cover even hire talents that can't speak Japanese? Such a wasted potential when they can't interact with JP

Ame and Gura are isolated from the rest of the girls

>>9815884
EN collabs scarred me for life now I don't watch any that involves an EN member

>>9815948
they hire people who are successful in the past life, Japanese skill doesn't matter that much.
The bigger question is why do ID girls generally have better Japanese than EN girls

gura has been employed by hololive for an entire year, why hasn't she bothered to learn the most basic of japanese? you can literally achieve N5 proficiency in 2-3 months of regular study.

>ITS KINO
>SHUT UP FAG YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW KINO THIS IS
>ITS NOT CRINGE ITS KINOOOOOOO
Prepare for the fags to come in with their infinite supply of copium to tell you how wrong you are OP

>>9815884
>that ESL tier sentence
Something tells me this isn't a normalfag but IS an ESL and also OP since it reeks of faggot

>>9816074
>>9816107
Like clockwork!

>>9816074
Nah..nah I agree it was nice to see them interact and have fun but shit really was just awkward because even Ina could join in and joke and Gura was the only one there kinda waiting for the joke to be translated and in most cases it never was...Gura pls...your jap reps.

>>9815884
Yes, Gura ruins everything. Thankfully the other girls were charismatic enough to make up for what a failure she is.

>>9816065
Gura dropped the otaku appeal for just straight pedobaiting long ago. Have you been living under a rock?

Whoever allowed this collab should be fired.

>>9815884
>One random faggot on youtube, not even any likes or replies
>LOOK THE NORMALFAGS AGREE
Kill yourself

>>9815884
>screenshots his own comment
>posts it on /by/

Nice

>>9816152
>Like Clockwork
>nothing was said about the collab, just that the post reeked of OP's faggotry and seemed ESL
All it was, was pointing out that OP is a faggot(always true) and that the youtube comment seemed way too ESL to be a normalfag.

>>9816175
>Have you been living under a rock?
no, I just don't watch EN, and i especially avoid gura

>>9816051
>The bigger question is why do ID girls generally have better Japanese than EN girls
Because mutts have never learned any languages so they will not learn one even if it'd be the easiest thing ever. They will not do it.

Indonesians are multilingual and everyone knows many languages

It is not a coincidence that everyone else in EN who speak Japanese are not mutts.

>>9816166
I was expecting A-chan to translate but I didn't hear her do it once. I only watched for 5 mins and closed it, shits wack

>>9816208
Imagine getting this emotional over someone criticising the anime girl you like.

>>9816255
ESL and normalfag are not mutually exclusive

>>9816074
>>9816173
What two view oshi of yours did Gura mog?

>>9815884
She had an entire year working at a Japanese company to learn even kindergarten level of Japanese to have cute conversations with her senpai. It's really not that hard, especially in her position. It's completely on her for not studying. The truth is her, ame and cali couldn't give less of a fuck to learn the language and want to make pretend their weeb anime speak is good enough because it's KAWAIIIIII

>>9816280
Dont get ahead of yourself faggot, I tell half this site to kill themselves daily.

>>9816263
Based

>>9815884
I’m sure normalfags would see this as a bad collab, you’re not a normalfag are you?

>>9815884
t.Wallace1090
go back

>>9816264
actually you're right. Mori has lived in Japan for years and somehow still speaks worst Japanese than Ollie - a teenager who has to learn 2 foreign languages while never steps out of her country

>>9816325
Mori can speak Japanese a little bit though. She can say hello and ask where the bathroom is.
Amelia is busy doing other things and being sick.
Gura is busy with bouts of alcoholic induced self destruction and illness.

>>9816346
Normalfags love Gura, you gonna hate Gura now too?

>>9816332
woah badass

>>9815884
This thread is herohei tier. Makes content out of a single nobody

>>9816429
I know right, now kill yourself

>>9815884
This retard propably thinks Gura will love him if he saves her from those evil asian people.

>>9816410
Mori lives in Japan for fuck sake. Why is she still there if she can't speak the local language?
Honestly, it looks like the only ones that can't learn Japanese are all Americans

>>9816074
You're fucking retarded if you a think Cover mandated cringe "kino" collab would be defended. FUCK COVER. COVER HATE. GIVE ME JP6 AND MAKE SURE ALL OF THEM ARE MULTILINGUAL QUEENS.

>>9816532
>GIVE ME JP6 AND MAKE SURE ALL OF THEM ARE MULTILINGUAL QUEENS.

rumao. there are more american/european JSLs in the world than there are japanese ESLs in the world

>>9815884
stop posting your own comment here faggot

>>9816491
>uber eats or whatever the local food delivery service is
>lives in the most english speaking city in japan
>teached esl which is google translating words and phrases and telling them to memorize

>>9815948
They didn't hire any of the ENs that can speak Japanese it's just they were fortunate the ones that can do it when needed

>>9816051
Well no shit they live close to Japan there's a ton of trade and tourism with other Asian island nations why the fuck would anyone outside of Hawaiians need Japanese?

>>9815884
Imagine not making Kiara a special sea theme outfit as a gag and have her translate instead of A Chan. Holoshit is so cheap and lazy.

>>9816571
not really, only 0.01% of weebs can speak Japanese. Meanwhile, plenty of normal Japanese people can speak English.

>>9816684
>remove A-chan's beautiful voice for the most obnoxious voice in Hololive
How about no

>>9816532
Unironically this. I hope the majority of jp6 can speak English because if not then that would spell the end of hololive in terms of talent quality. The cracks are starting to show.

Anyone else remember the hype that pre debut Polka generated when she was English posting on twitter, and her hype died when people realized that she was a big fat lier? Yeah. Maybe next time give us actual bilingual Vtubers. Fuck, I just realized how dumb it is that Kiara wasn't a Gen5 member. Like WTF, that's legit a huge missed opportunity there.

>>9816684
Why is she teaching Gura the Heil Hitler?

>>9816734
>plenty
>speak English.
Just because they took one year in en language classes dosent mean they're good at it. I mean haachama spent years in austialian and still has broken speech

>>9816768
>If you don't speak English you have no talent
HoloEN was a mistake.

>>9816684
Kiara has a Pekora collab and Sora HoloTalk this week, at least spare us a few days of the board not getting fucking flooded with orange threads.

Why would I learn a dead languge that’s ugly asf?

>>9815884
>screenshots own comment on youtube
>post on /vt/
>"EvEN nOrMalFaGs..."
Suck my balls.

>>9816684
Then people would just be saying that Gura was preventing her from joining in the collab proper.
They only winning move is not to play.

>>9816768
>just realized how dumb it is that Kiara wasn't a Gen5 member

She would have been if she didn't fail and/or get forced into EN instead :^)

>>9816768
>lier
Man YOU can't speak english

>>9816643
retard, for an Indonesian learning Chinese would be way more beneficial than learning Japanese.
And do you seriously think someone like Ollie learn Japanese to work

>>9816754
That entire stream was loud,obnoxious and unintelligible. I barely could even hear A Chan, so KFP would have been an upgrade.

>>9815884
If only Kiara was here instead of Gura.
Actually Fuck Ina, Marine and Aqua too, we should've gotten a Kiara stream instead.
Kiara should be the only Hololive vtuber to exist.
I am a KFP by the way

>>9816802
>>If you don't speak English you have no talent
>HoloEN was a mistake.

Both statements are equally true. But a JP chuuba who can speak English is more valuable than one who cannot.

>>9816847
adding stinkier shit to a pile of shit isn't going to make it better shit

>>9816797
but the percentage of normal Japanese is still way higher than the percentage of weeb.
People like Yagoo or Iwata can speak English. Lots of people HAVE TO learn English for work and this out weight the weeb who learn Japanese for fun

lol Kiara. Maybe Cover wants this experiment to be succesful and left her to roadside.

>>9816847
>loud, obnoxious and unintelligible
You could just say you're deaf and suffer from severe mental retardation. I mean it's Mario Party, those are very easy streams to follow along with. If you couldn't even follow that then I don't know what to say.

>>9816175
> just straight pedobaiting
meds

Isn't that Among us Collab all over again?
I think it would have been better if Gura didn't react to everything like she is the center of the universe, and most importantly, at least tried learning Japanese basics. When was the last time we heard her and Amelia have JP "lessons"? Last year and only once.

You guys realize cover really banked on this being a hit?
This is a group that is gonna have more collabs in the future
Cover even made a Tweet just for them

>>9816768
>her hype died when people realized that she was a big fat lier?
Porka orca. I'll see myself out...

>>9815884

>>9816051
>Japanese skill doesn't matter that much.
They should keep EN English.
Gura's KING and Reflection should have been fully English translated.
It's so cringe to listen to and watchin a bunch of kanji you can't understand plus the bad Japanese pronunciation.
The should also do music videos, it's embarrassing fans made MVs for Reflect and Red Heart with a good chunk of views.

JPxEN collabs should be always done with multi-language speakers as center piece.
That's why Kiara's and Coco's collabs worked the best.

>>9816866
Based

>>9816889
You would rather watch boring shit than have Kiara there to make it at least interesting and fun AHAHA no helping EGG Gang

>>9815884
> see another thread about corpo collab
> click on it
> It's already turned Orange Woman and KFPbaits
We really can't go through a single group JP collab without mentioning the fucking chicken huh?

Holotoris is going to be way more based than this company backed BS, can't wait for Kiara to blow this shit out of the water

>>9816835
Sorry professor but I don't aim to please. Especially not to someone like (You). Touch grass. Get laid. And have some sex.

>>9817022
that should be /vt/rannies

>>9816051
>The bigger question is why do ID girls generally have better Japanese than EN girls
That's like asking why the EN girls speak spanish better than the japanese wtf

>>9817083
Kiara is the mutt's law of this board.

>>9815884
I actually liked the language barrier bit? I wonder if this will end up with Gura trying to get her nihongo reps or Marine her eigo reps. Makes me wonder if this will open the doors to a MarinexGura collab with each learning the language of the other and being degenerates for a straight hour.

>>9816768
>Fuck, I just realized how dumb it is that Kiara wasn't a Gen5 member.
Bullet dodged. Thank God. Covers only saving grace.

>>9816074
t. jealous he doesn't understand what kino or soul mean.

It wasn't a good stream, but its a good chance for them to get used to an environment where they need to understand the opposite language.
As a language learner, I found it a bit interesting in that regard. Its probably better for them than for me.

It wasn't particularly kino or soulful. That you think it is means you have no idea what those words mean.

>>9815948
At least Ame tries to collab with some of her JP senpais.

>>9815948
like it or not knowing moonrunes is a debuff in EN

but seriously who cares this collab happened just to shill whaterver comes out in a few hours and everyone will forget it soon

>>9817163
the Japanese sucks at learning foreign languages, everyone is better than them in that regard.
The ID girls have to learn 2 foreign languages, but the American Holos can't even learn 1. Don't pretend like any of them can speak Spanish

You just can't handle Kiara is an extrovert and knows Japanese. I swear these chumbros are so insecure over KFP

>>9815948
Americans will not learn any other language besides English just like Japanese will not learn any other language besides Japanese.

Not a single EN who is American knows Japanese to any capacity. The ones who happen to know it are indos, Austrian, Canadian, Australian and half Hawaiian… and not a single JP cares about English too. Both Japan and US are self-centered cultures so they don’t give a shit about anything else outside of their bubble.

>americans not knowing dead language bad
>nips not knowing universal language good

Literal 4 year olds in most european countries know more english than the average nip holo, if anyone needs to be shamed for their language skills it's the nips.

>>9816263
Based.

>>9817434
but they're working for a Japanese company, not the other way around

>>9816768
If Cover actually demanded their next JP gen 6 talents should all be able to actually speak english, their talent pool of fitting applicants would suddenly shrink to probably less then 5 percent of its size.

The only ones who were able to speak english at a conversational level or above were Coco who was born in the US and, being generous here, Haachama who also went abroad for a bit. The sample size is small (but that's the point), but the pattern is there, if you're only living in nipland you have no incentive to learn. All the other dozens of JP girls are varying degrees of gaga gugu imbeciles - which to be fair, english has never been a priority for them, their main market is japan and they're doing fine enough at home that they never had the actual economic need to seriously reach out (notice how little has come out of their supposed "english lessons" that some of them took... and apparently already gave up), and the EOPs were happy enough when the anime girl just threw them an occasional "h-hey gaiz..." bone and stammered some cute nonsensical phrases.

But yeah, as Hololive gets more and more overseas members it's getting a bit more ridiculous that no JP speaks english and the whole onus of communication is on the other side: notice how it's pretty much always the "foreign" girls (some of the ENs and IDs, about half of the girls) who actually made the effort to learn japanese, that bridge the gap and makes successfull collabs happen, meanwhile no JP (that didn't know english before) has returned the favor and learned english above gaga gugu level.

And Cover will probably rather continue in that way - no serious onus on the JP girls to learn english, no requirements that for the next JP gen audition english ability will be a strong criteria they select for, but rather keep things as is and haha let's just put that burden on our foreign branches and have them be able to speak japanese to us, because that's "easier" (for the company)

>>9817429
I hope the Japanese get enslaved by the chinks in the near future

I wish they forced collars on all four of those bitches and made them walk like the dogs they are, on stream.

hell yeah

>>9817218
>I wonder if this will end up with Gura trying to get her nihongo reps or Marine her eigo reps.

Do yu really? Then I've got a bridge to sell you...

Why is every non general thread on this board a worthless pile of shit

>>9817218
Kek. Keep hoping.

>>9817591
split threads has always been shitposting containment

>>9817591
Anons that are too shy to post on generals create bait threads in hopes of getting (You)s as a means of grinding their imageboard speaking reps.

>>9817475
That's not how the world works. I work for a German tech company with various international branches, guess what language everyone speaks when we have business meetings and collaborate on projects? In fact everyone who doesn't step up and learn enough english to communicate during the first year will not get their contract renewed, or nore often wouldn't be hired in the first place. This is pretty much how every single multi-national company works.

>>9817731
I've seen bait get laughed out of /hlgg/ (like this thread) and then they run away to make a thread like this. Honestly pathetic.

>>9817488
it probably tooks a lot of effort for a Japanese to learn English. You expect Kojima know English since he's a massive westaboo but he doesn't.
Cover always priority talent over language skills (that's why Gura and Ame can be in).
If they hire Japanese talents who know English, they probably suck at being streamers and in the end, no one will watch them

>>9817811
that's not the case in Japanese companies.
Anyway, it's not why Cover's forcing Gura to learn Japanese. Why are you complaining?

Another thread made by a dumb 12-year-old spic in a Deadpool shirt

>>9817668
>>9817587
I mean think about it in how much PR that could bring Cover, and how much people have been wanting for Gura to collab outside EN, or Marine get even more proactive on her approach of the EN talets. The collab helped mainly to build these bridges AND I'm pretty sure a class-like stream with both Gura and Marine being taught by Kiara could be kino seeing how fast the first one went bottom-left.

>>9816959
I'm not watching the stream for the gameplay ffs. It's the interaction between the vtubers that interests me

>>9817811
Vtubing is bigger in Japan than tech is in Germany. You speak English because English is the language that dominates that area of business. You speak Japanese when you work in an area of business dominated by the Japanese.

>>9817908
The point is they will not learn any other language because they don’t care. If Senchou really cared she would have sticked with her English lessons. If Gura cared, after one year she should be able to talk a bit even if it’s scuffed.

The people who cares to learn a language (like Kiara) learns it. People who don’t (like Calli or senchou) will not ever learn it.

>>9817811
Funny, The German speaking tech firm i worked for always hired an interpreter when we had to deal with international partners or other branches. Heck the 2 japanese that were sent from the main branch to look over us didn't speak a single word english or german.

>>9818104
I'd say its not so simple considering how busy they both can get, not to mention that if Japanese was this easy most anons here wouldn't get nihongo jouzu'd as much. Marine DID try and Gura asked Kiara to give her a hand albeit I'd assume there wasn't much motivation previously and shit's hard as balls, made me lose motivation the few first tries with Japanese. I'd assume this was the perfect thing for both autists to try and force them into learning, even if it's to understand lewd jokes and whatnot.

>>9815884
Just because an idea wasnt perfect doesnt make it a failure. If they take this as a lesson they can make it work in another way.

>>9816074
>acts like a retard
>predicts that he'll be called a retard
incredible, how did he know?

>>9816532
>>9816768

THEY FUCKING HAD ONE THAT COULD SPEAK FLUENT ENGLISH! THEY WOULD’T LET HER COLLAB WITH EN AND NOW SHE’S FUCKING GONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>9816768
Hololive being full of elite talents has always been a dumb story fans like to tell themselves. They all have an aptitude for streaming but beyond that it's a mixed bag, with the more talented and charismatic members lifting up the agency as a whole. Newer gens aren't more or less talented than their predecessors as a whole.

>>9816074
They hated him because he told them the truth.
>>9817256
>he doesn't understand what kino or soul mean.
Allow me to translate:
kino (adjective)
"It's shit but I'm a consoomer retard with no personality outside the products I consume and therefore feel the need to defend corporations on the internet and do it for FREE."
soul (adjective)
Synonymous with kino.

>>9816866
Yer putting a big target on yer back there, pardner. Best be lookin' out for ya backside out hurr

>>9818104
It's not that Marine doesn't care, she's just dumb. Even her Japanese isn't that good. Her vocabulary range is rather low for her age and she was caught multiple times struggling to read middle school kanji

>>9816866
based and checked

>>9818522
Coco to Holoshit SEE YA LATERZ MOTHERFUKKERZ

>>9818669
She's free now and can do whatever the fuck she wants, and hell she might even be able to collab with other people seeing how much of an impact she made. She's literally just biding her time for the perfect storm.

>>9816051
It's easier for other asians to learn japanese

>>9818807
no it's not.
Maybe knowing Chinese could help, Japanese is really different from other Asian languages

>>9816532
>>9816768
why dont gura and ame just learn JP instead?

the west culture doesn't care about japanese or eastern culture in general.

Is a sad reality.

>>9819007
Thanks for chiming in, Chang.

>>9815884
Newfag who doesnt know Gura and Marine have talked literally days after Guras debut.
Gura is awkward regardless of the language of the ones she is collabing with.

>>9817488
true, it's not a requirement
and one day the subscriber counter will stop going up
congrats on reaching language market cap, a Dead End

which will eventually turn in to The End
(you can see this in real time @ Ai channel)

Americans don't like learning new languages because they think the world revolves around them, this is why Gura, Ame, and even Wigger who lives in fucking Japan refuse to learn japanese.

>>9818909
Because they both lazy and Hololive is slowly turning to EN company. By that I mean every branch must know English at some point because their audience mainly at westerners

>>9815884
meh
gura a ugly

>>9819466
haha holy shit you sound like a retard

>>9819436
A lot of them learn Spanish. It's just that they can't grow out of ironic weeb phase

>>9819466
>their audience mainly at westerners
hmm let's see where most of the money comes from

>>9819436
yeah man the world should be focused on myanmar or wherever you crawled out of

>>9819524
>A lot of them learn Spanish
and how many of them have no Hispanic root?
I doubt that an average white or black American know anything besides English

>>9816392
too be fair, indonesian is closer to english and japanese then english is to japanese

This is the worst video on Gura's channel.

>>9815948
The Towa, Roboco & Ame collab is great though.

>>9816065
She's either too stupid or too lazy. I think it's laziness, which is actually worse.

>>9819621
Japanese is a Japonic language. It's not similar to any language Austronesian language
see >>9818862