/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

TOP FUCKING KEK, the "Kiara debuff field" doesn't work on Pekora

Nijisanji's next week is jam packed with stuff.

Monday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1437702731423158273 NijiQuiz big collab
Wednesday: https://twitter.com/PokerChase_JP/status/1438778605555699713 Poker Chase x Edengumi
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438050019752521735 Mao 3D reveal
Thursday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438759678696067077 Singing relay
https://twitter.com/mtgjp/status/1438336933680205827 MTG collab
Friday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438827577360076805 SmashBros tournament
Saturday: https://twitter.com/pj_sekai/status/1433755919393779714 Project Sekai team match
https://party.rage-esports.jp/2021autumn/ Apex Arena Challenge Cup
Sunday: https://twitter.com/midori_2434/status/1438465344310439937 Nijirock 3D with live band

Surprisingly, the combined peak CCV for this collab is the same as the first Umisea collab (44k). I thought it will be higher due to JP primetime but guess not.

Jeezuz Christ Pekora, stop, you're mogging everyone and it hasn't even been 20 minutes into the stream!
Pekora: 33k
Kiara: 10k
Imo, Kiara is far more tolerable speaking Japanese, it nerfs the edge on her chicken voice.

>>9936233
Wtf? Is it a holiday?

>>9936264
10 minutes in and both are still inclining. I can see Pekora inching near 40k

>>9936224
maybe shed get even higher if it was with any other EN

>>9936318
Ah, I wasn't talking about the Pekokiara collab. I was comparing 2 Umisea collab (the Gura Mario party and this one).

I stand my ground and still declare that Kiara wont reach 15k.

>TODAY'S STREAMS OVER 10k, SO FAR
Missing ClockGirl with 13k and GreenLamy with 10.7k.

I don't recall a "Pekora Pekora" topping the ranking.

>>9936314
Nope just meiroshit isn't there to fuck their shit up

>>9936233
Is that singing relay karaoke or song release?
The only one I can remember of that from niji is the nyan cat and that wasn't really good.
Also that MTG collab was questionable to me numbers wise but Kuzuha is there so it should go decently. How big is it in JP?

>>9936224
This was almost a relay from UMISEA
>Aqua 24k
>Ina 20K
Relay
>Pekora 38k
>Kiara 10k

>>9936529
Missing a just started Suisei stream too (at 12k), will likely get added in a few minutes.

A particular diverse cast of Holos making it to over 10k, with Ibrahim saving this humble thread from a terribly day of shitposting which would happen in his absence

>>9936601
Karaoke relay

>>9936626
ILLEGAL
VIEW
FUNNELING!

maybe it would have been a better idea to do the OP picture with the retarded manga quote instead

That's kinda weak compared to his collab with Kuzuha

Peko reached 40k while Kiara has 12k. I Underestimated them
I wanna watch but Pekora seeing the state of EN Server is embarassing

>>9936529
Missing HAL at 16k too

>>9936529
Missing Ange

>>9936939
they are starting with Mamatori and Ina buildings to not look so bad lol

>>9936935
That stream was 100k his fans combined with Kuzuha 45k+.

Pekora really didn't want to buff this event by streaming before it like she usually would since Aqua is part of it huh.

>>9937074
Nah, Kuzuha had 0. It was all stylish's 45k and Ryosuke's 100k

>>9936939
Tick tock, 13k and climbing for orange woman.

>>9937074
Was it? I've missed a start and it's not tracked by playboard or live-ranking.

Gotta say Suisei holding in 15k while Peko/Kiara Collab is ongoing is impressive

>>9936962
>>9937009
Did they just start? Link me to the playboard anyway plz

>>9937121
Wrong, he had his pov up on twitch

>>9936233
Another tournament kek and of course Kuzuha has to join it too

>>9937359
His schedule is packed with tournaments because he gets invited for being the biggest male vtuber and numbers magnet.

>>9937232
Nevermind, live-ranking finally picked them up

>>9935785
Boy it'd be a real pity if this stream continued for another 30 minutes

>>9936813
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>9937896
>Pekora gets 45k
>Kiara can barely break 15k
lmao. The best part is you know she's seething about it too since the only reason she organized this shit in the first place was to get numbers, Peko saw her game and demanded to stream her own POV and cucked her. The bunny is shrewd.

>>9938062
tf are you talking about, 14k (not 15k fag) is amazing for kiara

Another winning day for Hololive. It's weird how people start tribal shit within Hololive members when the winner is Yagoo himself.

>>9938062
awful bait, kfp
make better bait

>>9938222
Because everyone here is retarded

>>9938152
It's amazing for Kiara but shit for an anticipated EN/JP collab

>>9937589
I mean yeah obviously. Doesn't change the fact he's carrying the company on his back. At the end of the day, his numbers would be the highest and people would forget about it. Also, Abadango, surprised to see his name there again after the whole Aqua fiasco. Is he a popular pro smash player in Japan?

Kanae and Kagami instant 10k

>>9938301
Excellent reason for the next OP to be a retarded meme image.

>>9938152
Good for Kiara maybe, but it could have been so much more with literally any other Myth girl...
Think of the numbers

>>9938222
You know how Kuzuhaniggers don't actually watch his stream and just use his numbers to shit on holos?
Well when they can't do that they try to tribalfag EN and JP instead

>>9938337
/#/ ops should always be a retarded meme image because if you put actual numbers in the op the quality of the thread drops by three levels

>>9938487
this.

>>9938428
EN fags keep trying to push this unity bullshit like they're not a heaping pile of horseshit that keeps attracting the worst possible elements into Hololive.

>>9938538
And here you see the kuzuhanigger himself

>>9938538
Fuck off, nijinigger. NijiEN will never be relevent.

Seems like the UMISEA program didn't attract much tourist. Their numbers are pretty conservative on both EN and JP time-slots.
Pekora's EN tour, on the other hand, will definitely have a sequel.

>>9938538
And here we see a Kuzuhanigger in the wild. What will be his next move? Post koshien numbers claiming they are pomu's or kuzuha apex numbers with yosuke yamada. Come and watch with us this wild faggot in his natural habitat.

Oh hey Kiara break 15k viewers

>>9935785
>Kiara 15k+ possible
>"Nope"
15,010 watching now
now..
kneel

>>9938573
Why would a Nijifan be concerned with EN rotting Hololive from the inside out? They're cheering it on, not complaining about it.

>>9939034
Another kuzuhanigger.

>>9939034
Nijiniggers want it so desperately to be true the post it everywhere hoping that it becomes true.

>>9939034
See this is why you don't put actual numbers in the op

>>9938913
nice bots

>>9938913

>>9938913
K-Kiara, take my kneel

>>9938062
If she cared that much about numbers, she'd stop streaming JRPGs.

>>9939423
She cares about numbers, but not enough to hamper her own enjoyment whilst streaming. Too bad the EN audience isn't there for her for streaming jRPGs.

>>9938428
>>9938573
>>9938766
>>9939097
>>9939104
Kuzuha isn't even live and no one mentioned him.

>>9939256
nijicope

>>9938739
>UMISEA program didn't attract much tourist
geez I wonder why?
> ignore was on 4:00 am PT
>ignore was ina channel

>>9939490
Which part of
>Kuzuhaniggers don't actually watch his stream and just use his numbers to shit on holos?
do you not get?

For all the talk about Sana numbers, here is her numbers with a comparison:
>head to head with Sora
It is actually remarkable, considering the subject matter of the stream, the slot and language spoken

>>9938766
E-celeb numbers.

>>9939540
But he didn't even mention him. Is all anti EN posts the work of Kuzuhafags now? Did I miss a /#/ arc?

>>9936233
>Monday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1437702731423158273 NijiQuiz big collab
10-20k
>Wednesday: https://twitter.com/PokerChase_JP/status/1438778605555699713 Poker Chase x Edengumi
<15k
>https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438050019752521735 Mao 3D reveal
<70k
>Thursday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438759678696067077 Singing relay
<7k
>https://twitter.com/mtgjp/status/1438336933680205827 MTG collab
<25k
>Friday: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438827577360076805 SmashBros tournament
<70k
>Saturday: https://twitter.com/pj_sekai/status/1433755919393779714 Project Sekai team match
<10k
>https://party.rage-esports.jp/2021autumn/ Apex Arena Challenge Cup
<10k
>Sunday: https://twitter.com/midori_2434/status/1438465344310439937 Nijirock 3D with live band
<20k


Nothing too special of a week except for that tournament

>>9939647
Didn't you notice the 6th of august image?

>>9939553
Considering she went up against Umisea, I'd say she's starting to cultivate a core audience for her contents. Schizos here only talk shit.

>>9939693
Which is a different convo.

>>9939647
Kuzuhafags made anti Holo posts
Chumbuds made anti Niji posts
THEY ARE

>>9939647
It is the work of one (1) shitposter that uses whoever is getting good numbers as a tool to shitpost. In August, it happened to be Kuzuha but before that; Ibrahim, even Sodapopping

>>9939795
Don’t forget Hal

I don't know why people here focus on the Japanese audience anyway. With the way thing is right now, their population will drop significantly and their content creators will have to cater to more international viewers anyway.

>>9939795
Ngl, kinda miss the sodapoppin shitposting.

>>9939750
Yeah, her numbers are low but it feels that those few people are loyal, they give SC too. I'm honestly more worried about Rat, I feel she's still figuring out her character and content and her intended audience.

>>9939688
>Nijirock 3D with live band - 20k
cute, i'll save this post for later.

>>9939996
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>9939996
Talk about Vshojo then, their numbers must be MUCH better, right. EOPs from a non japanese agency must have greater numbers than japanese vtubers.

>>9940101
Wasn't that proven that their number is also high as well? Like their peaks even match even with Gura's number

Consistent 1.5k-3.5k+ per vod is pretty crazy for an indie with less than 5k subs right?

>>9939688
I can't wait to grudgepost this.

>>9940051
>>9940279
Nta, but what's your prediction for those programs?

>>9940101
Great, now you're going to summon the Vshojo shitposter.
>>9940052
Dumbass is tryna bring long-term trends of negative pop growth in Japan to discuss current numbers...
Bitch that's something to worry about later.

>>9940051
>>9940279
Same anon that posted the prediction, I'd argue that nijirock is at least 30-35k but eh.

>>9940101
Vshojo's general median is higher than Nijisanjis

>>9940307
Nijiqui: >40k
3D rock: >60k
>>9940374
You underestimate the music powerhouses attending plus it's live with a band.

>>9940258
Hell nah gura is on par with likes of pokimane and then the top dogs of vshojo which is iron mouse, veibea, and nyanners are on par with ina for average but ina have higher peaks. The lower vshojo like melody and the dude with voice changer, froot are near balez levels.

>>9939750
>>9940018
her holoscopes are interesting and worth watching.
But se cant do regualr gaming streams or new ideas here since the overlap is too great.

>>9940382
Comparing Twitch to YT without a closer look at peaks to see if raids are occuring and also not favoring YT's lovely CCV culling is a bit silly.
>>9940374
I mean that's certainly closer to what I'd expect than 20k, c'mon now.

>>9940441
The only ones rock heavy there is Kagami and Fuwa. I've never heard Toko singing Rock and neither I have the time to hear Ryushen and Kaede singing. I've visited Ryu's karaoke before and he/she was average. If you got any links to the other 3, then I could change my predictions a bit. Also it's 3D huh, I'd bump it to 30-45k at least.

Will Niji own next week then? Does Holo have anything planned?

>>9940768
Collab restrictions for EN 2 ends.

>>9940374
>>9940307
look at the members, being on Ryushen channel is a debuff, but less than 20k is impossible.

A lot of people here are not content creators so they don't know, but Sana's case is a good example of sticking to your niche from the get go. Sure, it might not result in high viewership, but it will help you grow a very dedicated audience if you don't quit.

btw
UmiSea peak
>20k+24k=44k
vs
Pekora x Kiara peak
>~47k+15k=63k

>>9940382
Who in Vshojo have higher median than Kuzuha?

luna doing good with 8k

>>9940809
According to Mori, there might be a big collab between Myth, Council and Irys. I'm curious what sort of number that will do depending on the POV.

>>9940750
Ryushen was invited to the actual singer part of AR concert along with Hayato, Deron has several rock originals, Toko honestly not sure about her rock skill but her utawaku gets big numbers (relative to her streams) and Fuwa has several +1mil covers, plus he and Hayato did rock on his 3D which is still the highest performing Nijisanji 3D.

>>9940768
collab ends but you neevr know.
umisea came out of nowehre

>>9940944
>Pekora is more popular than Marine and Aqua
News at 11

>>9940944
Good riddance to that forced soulless corpo "unit"

>>9940944
No one wants to see management mandated collabs with zero synergy.

>>9938739
I'm actually curious what numbers Cover expected for UMISEA videos and collabs and whether or not it met them.

>>9941053
>strawman
Marine+Aqua+Gura+Ina < Pekora+Orange Woman*

>>9941086
Man, I wish we had this in NijiEN too. It's only Selen who's reaching out to the JP branch.

>>9940995
I had seen both Fuwa and Hayato sing rock. It's more or less them screaming into the mic, well it'd still get them numbers regardless from fujos. I frequent Toko's streams all the time too. Just the other two I don't know.

>>9941099
I would say better than expected. All of their collabs still achieve high numbers. The Umisea shorts are also getting good traction as well. These might very well be encouraging Cover to start more cross-branch units.

>>9941178
Elira...

>>9940944
>44k+63k=107k
I'm glad that both did well.

>>9941178
>. It's only Selen who's reaching out to the JP branch.
becasue of apex
and the dynamic of that game doesnt give a lot.

>>9941146
Gura's audience doesn't show up for a JP stream so its entirely irrelevant. And Ina had more views than Kiara did, so it was all down to the JP side being weaker than Peko.

>>9941099
Well i think their short videos actually on hologra number? Ok maybe lower than hologra but i think its around 500k vod views, just gotta wait for the final ??? on the schedule

>>9941221
Get out of here with that perfect logic. At the end of the day, Holo wins

not that one can expect a company like cover to react quickly, but a collab project around shion and gura would have done well.

>>9940944
Corpo pairing x Soul collab.
It would be more popular if cover didn't pushed so hard, people got sick of it pretty fast. Let the girls form a natural bond first dumb dumbs

>>9941266
the umisea clips are hologra numbers. They just are max 2 days old when hologra is nearly a week or more

>>9941214
>>9941242
We need more support from the management themselves. The baseball arc was good but we got left out from the allstars game. They shouldn't just rely on the talents, they need to be proactive about this.

>>9941099
I'd say on par. Umisea didn't blow anything away numbers wise but it did pretty decent. Cover might have been expecting a bigger response because of the names involved but honestly it's pulling huge numbers by non-Hololive standards so they're probably satisfied but not overwhelmed.

>>9941256
you can fuck your strawman in another thread.
ppl here know Marin's numbers

>>9941382
From the EN side I'm sure 50% of the hype is caused by "Gura's first JP collabs woooo!" which will wear off quickly since chumbuds don't like collabs anyway.

>>9941397
>you can fuck your strawman in another thread.
I think you don't know what a strawman is...

>>9941357
Careful though, Selen might have a "souless corpo" collab

>>9941397
Nobody cares. Stop peddling your shit-tier talents, nijinigger.

>>9940990
pssst its Mario Kart
or maybe finishing EN portal and Carnival

>>9941507
>EN portal and Carnival
thats gonna be multiple videos all spread, done whenever each has time. No relay or massive multipov collab.
So maybe mariokart - hope they can get a full roster and invite someone from outside the branch to make the 12 complete.

>>9941507
It will definitely be a Minecraft stream since Mori was preparing a carnival for them
But Mario Kart will be nice, i hope they invite haachama as the 12th player

>>9941493
>no mention of niji anywhere in that guy's post
>Stop peddling your shit-tier talents, nijinigger
holobronies are the definition of rent free

>Numbers you barely see on regular basis from Nijisanji
What happened to Pegora stream? higher peak, but steep dip

>>9940990
Kiara was planning a collab of among us with the porximity audio mod

>>9941178
That collab with the ID guy only happened because his manager talked with Selen's manager or something.

>>9941661
>Kiara was planning a collab of among us
damn, Kiara should take a break

EN really gets susan'd more often...

>>9941641
Your translation reps Anon. It was a challenge stream for Pekora, and she lost the challenge and went to Zatsu for a bit.

>>9941641
She lost early, and had a tangent on what case to buy for her Iphone 13.

>Hayato got 2.8mil yen for 3.0
Is this normal

>>9941625
And Nijiniggers won’t stop falling for bait. What’s new?

>>9941702
Why do you always bring up NijiID? This is a numbers thread. Irrelevants are not welcome here.

>>9941717
this happens a lot with Kiara's VODs.

>>9941776
his fans are like tennis ball throwing machines but for superchats

>>9941746
>>9941764
Privated rn, cannot check, thanks

>>9941779
>i was just pretending to be a retarded holobrony

>>9941717
I noticed that on Kiara channel several times, is she flagged or something? Sometimes It takes 1 or 2 days for her views to come back.

almost 20k watching kuzuha channel who started the stream with no plan decide what he wants to do tonight

>Sponsored stream except for Shuba
Split povs at that, still pulled great numbers

>>9941661
>amongus
damn.. it's going to be iofi incident all over again? instead of translation issue this time it's going to be whoever kills shark the most

>>9941882
considering how many times youtube has terminated and shadowbanned her, yh probably some retarded flag

What happened here?

WHO WOULD WIN THIS UNARMED FACE TO FACE BATTLE TO THE DEATH?

>The biggest Youtuber from japan, armed with 10M subs, a legion of fans rangnig from regular audience, vtubers, entertainers and all sorts of politicians, being boosted by the Emperor of all VTuber and some male idol
>an humble and meek shota emperor, unarmed and being debuffed by some dead weight leeches pulling his numbers down

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE, ANALYSE, PARALYSE AND CATALYZE YOU (and unbraid Pekora's hair)!

>>9941967
Privated some of the shorts and other VODs. Standard stuff for Haachama

>>9941625
It was a joke about Marin. Well that's how I took it. I found it funny. I'm a fan of Hayama

>>9941927
>except for Shuba
kek, Subaru was the only one not getting paid?

>>9941776
The five Kings that fujos wanna fuck and throw money at
>Kuzuha
>Kanae
>Kagami
>KFuwa
>KLauren

Just make the male model attractive enough and girls would flock no matter what

>>9942044
Really shows lots of nijinigger tourists in here kek

>>9941717
its more got to do with people who have normally lower viewer numbers. I see this elsewhere when a chuuba has higher than normal ccv on occasions.

>>9942082
>that fujos wanna fuck
'fujoshi' really just means 'woman' to you guys kek

>>9942082
And
>aKina

>>9942082
May I introduce you to the term "yumejoshi", which most Niji females fan identified themselves with.

>>9942151
Honestly, I know yumejos is a word too, but it's too long to type, fujo or fujos is easier because you get the idea.

>>9942292
Then I should just call /#/ general posters retards since that's faster to type. Your post number is also too long so I'll call you fag.

>>9941717
She has 15k ccv in her peak, seems legit for her viewers rotation.

>>9942258
nice try fujoshit

>>9942215
emotionally he's basically a woman, he shouldn't count

>>9942380
whoa calm down fujo kun

>>9941717
thats pretty much youtube shitting the bed.
pekers also will end up higher after some hours.

>>9942380
At least you’re admitting you’re retarded like the rest of us.

>>9942151
>>9942258
You mean, just like how "otaku" means "anime fan" in the west?

>>9942292
What about yumes? Saying fujos want to fuck Hayato is like saying yurifags want to fuck Pekora

Anyone remember how many Pomu had sold by the first day? Seems like Selen is selling out even faster than her, albeit this had a much greater promo push behind them as compared to Lazulight.

>>9942756
Petra…

>>9942055
I doubt that. Subaru's stream description did say that her stream is a part of the promotion (similar to the other girls). She probably just forgot to tag her YT stream with the "Included paid promotion" - this happened with other Holos (i.e: FBK) here and there, too. There probably isn't any hard rule forcing them to

FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN

>46,874 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,520 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,013 :: Aqua (Hololive)
>21,574 :: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,488 :: Ina (Hololive)
>19,623 :: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>18,809 :: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>17,653 :: Botan (Hololive)
>16,830 :: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,526 :: Suisei (Hololive)
>15,975 :: Nene (Hololive)
>15,483 :: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,924 :: Kiara (Hololive)
>14,768 :: Ange Katrina (Nijisanji)
>13,076 :: Kronii (Hololive)
>12,863 :: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,509 :: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,419 :: Korone (Hololive)
>11,081 :: Noel (Hololive)
>10,793 :: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,248 :: Miko (Hololive)

>>9941804
I'm not talking about ID all the time, you schizo, I only mentioned it, because that anon was talking about Selen's collabs.

>>9942748
>>9942258

>>9942477
kek

>>9943097
... yes? It's a shortened form of yumejoshi EN speaking fans use.

>NijiEN last night
Good showing

>>9943130
Wrong one lol, tried to delete. >>9942292
You got the idea that fujos/yumejos are the ones throwing cash at them. I just don't want to type a longer word.

>>9943185
FUCK MY BRAIN IM RETARDED THE LONGER I AM HERE

>>9942082
Are we sure the audience is female?

>>9943152
NijiKR likewise, with Bora Nun and Ban Hada not only beating the "Gwelu Line" but beating the REAL GWELU too!

>>9943248
female or wishes they were female, no difference

>>9943248
we know some of them (like chronoir) have mostly men watching them because they said so, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's mostly men throwing the superchats and buying the merch. i don't think there's a reliable way to judge that, apart from taking a look at the avatars and usernames attached to the superchats but that would be both inconvenient and unreliable.

>>9942972
A good winning day for Hololive. It's weird how many people here keep seething about Hololive EN and praising Nijijsanji EN but Nijisanji EN never actually gets into any daily top 10 at all. You need to focus all that efforts on watching those girl instead.

>>9942972
Nijisanji blown the fuck out thank god. Hate them so much.

>>9943383
Had to retract it, live-ranking added Kuzuha for the day as he started the stream a couple of minutes before midnight

>>9943367
I can't think of a male purchasing male merch or VPs ir SCing "kawaii" at a 3.0 unless he's gay and women outnumber gay men.

>>9943383
They're fine with NijiEN because they don't threaten their JP masters, and they seethe at HoloEN because they get big numbers and shake the worldview of the "last samurai" types who infest /jp/.

>>9943307
Way more likely for a man hating idolfag to be a tranny than someone who just watches a dude play shooters

>>9943383
Pfft, the self-respecting NijiEN fans that know that the numbers they pull aren't going to compare to HoloEN on average don't bother shitposting or invading other threads to do so. It's mostly dramaniggers, shitposters and Holo-Antis (Be they former holofans or seething 2views) that shit things up for EVERYONE, regardless of what 'side' they claim to be on.
>>9942972
Well, solid showing from Hal, and its good that some Nijis got on the list so that shitposting will be kept to a minimum.

>>9942292
Can’t you just say girls?

>>9943554
Fujos are women and women are evil so he has to say fujos because it's gross for women to like men or something idk the narrative anymore

>>9943478
those are obvious but some aren't as obvious like if a superchat just says congrats how do you know the gender of whoever sent it

>>9941998
Apex viewers tend to watch the strongest player's pov in a collab. Euriece at one point had higher numbers than hal because they went to watch his pov for his god plays in a collab few days ago.

https://youtu.be/TIy2ZAFUjvk
Clip related. Euriece has been inclining and keeping the jp viewers from his collab with jp pros and streamers, probably because even among jp pros, you rarely see someone pulls off flashy plays like him. A lot of his plays are clip highlight tier.

>>9938538
Welcome back to the numbers thread, Kuzuha cocksucker. How is your day!

>>9943554
>>9943662
every woman is a fujo and every man is fujobaiting, we don't need all these words.

>>9943711
All you have to do is filter the word "Kuzuha" and its shocking how civilized the discussion here is. It really is just one dude who destroys this thread every single time.

Oh boy here we go again

>>9943554
Well that's true, my brain ain't right at the moment. >>9943220

>>9943500
found the tranny

>>9943821
t. idoltranny mad at the existence of men

>FINAL TALLY OF THE STREAMS OVER 10K OF TODAY

Here is the list, Kuzuha started a 23:58 so he is included on today's ilst
>46,874: Pekora
>29,520: Pekora
>24,013: Aqua
>23,855: Kuzuha
>21,574: Subaru
>20,488: Ina
>19,623: Shibuya Hal
>18,809: Ibrahim
>17,653: Botan
>16,830: Subaru
>16,526: Suisei
>15,975: Nene
>15,483: Kanae
>14,924: Kiara
>14,768: Ange Katrina
>13,076: Kronii
>12,863: Hayato
>12,509: Rushia
>11,419: Korone
>11,391: Noel
>10,793: Fauna
>10,248: Miko

>>9943885
>no u
very good as always

>>9943954
>Only one entry for Niji females and it's a collab
Is this like normal? What happened to Mito?

>>9938242
don't overestimate your kin

>>9944042
Manjisanji has been a reality for a while now. Niji females are 2nd class citizens and that is why I will never support Manjisanji.

>>9943954
thanks for putting it together. cool numbers.

>>9943152
What did Rosemi do to get 2k?

>>9944146
Birthday stream.

>>9943954
>cikin not getting 15k
kfpbros..

>>9944230
kek, she actually did, live-ranking missed.

>>9944386
I dont see 15k in the graph

>>9944431
Here it goes

>>9944431
You're blind

>>9944042
She was there yesterday, Iinchou streams like twice a week, which you'd know if you weren't just baitposting

>>9944146
Totsumachi

>>9941998
>>9936935

>>9944613
Did she reduce activity or she was always like that?

Interesting, so even the official site numberfags the 'time to reach 1 million views' statistic.

>>9944146
Birthday stream that all of NijiEN called in for, partially became a group zatsudan

>>9944802
kek

Wait, people can buy the song for $2?

>>9944802
Of course they would, why wouldn't they? Unlike the stuff we do here that stuff actually can have a business impact on them, like attracting sponsors and the like.

>>9944958
How new?
Every song the Holos make are available for purchase.

>>9945009
>Of course they would, why wouldn't they?
It's just amusing to see them use the same exact statistic that people here use.

>>9944782
She is busy the last 3 months. Album, several concerts, and her solo live, as well as something she hasn't revealed yet.

>>9944782
Always like this, Iinchou's streams take a lot more planning and effort than just playing a random game for 10 hours. She's primarily a zatsudan streamer and a lot of her zatsus are doing reports of weird subculture shit she has to go around and looks for, and then make into a compelling story. She been more busy than usual lately though with stuff like restarting Mitoraji, practicing for the AR Live, Rin's solo, and her own solo live coming, and then there's the Juvvel shit Warawa threw on her.

Her content, just like Ago (who faggots here call lazy without understanding the background work it takes to go through and select the enormous amount of fan submissions he gets for content), is not scalable unlike Pekora Minecraft streams or Kuzuha/Chihiro/Kanae Apex streams.

>>9945278
>take a lot more planning and effort than just playing a random game for 10 hours
pekor mori don't look

>>9945080
Do you realy think Omega isn't watching this thread and masturbating furiously any time a HoloEN got into daily top 10?

>>9945278
As a matter of fact Kuzuha is streaming Smash now

>>9945342
Not sure where mori fits into this, but I like Pegora (one of the few Holo talents I do), and it's to her merit that she makes use of the scalability of her content and can deliver entertaining hijinks daily with consistency, that's the way to really make it as a streamer unless you are one of the few special talents like Iinchou, Ago, Senchou, and Ange who have made it.

>>9945512
If Omega was in here, she would've asked sana and bael to change timeslots already

>>9945625
And also asked Aki to change her name already so it doesn't fuck up the algorithm

Good old late night nijisanji time as usual

>>9945692
They should've taken EU girls instead of Aussies

>>9945525
And now he's switching to splatoon

>>9944042
Mito has massively reclined in relevance since Manjisanji took over. She used to get an easy 20k in 2018/2019 but now she struggles to hit 10k. She is one of the stronger performing Manjisanji females but, she too will eventually fall as you can see from her already rapidly declining viewership.

>>9945278
>majority of her streams are still just gameplay
face it, she's just lazy and lets her fans make up excuses for her

>>9945692
Why the fuck are you still using ikioi???
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

>>9945742
Go back to sucking 5chdicks 5chmatometard-chama

>>9945789
ikioi picks not only vtuber it's important reference

>>9945860
Truth hurts man, I get it.

>>9945926
You're kinda bad at it but they don't have much of a choice so don't make them miss you

>>9945718
Good ol no plan stream

>>9945746
Yea, anon, stuff like fucking around Skyrim to do an utawaku is totally a normal gameplay stream that anyone can do on the regular.

Additionally doing one-off streams of a game that no one else in the company has streamed yet (for a recent example Hotel Izanami and Idol Manager playthroughs started as a trend because of her) is totally the same as having a stable game you can stream whenever you want, that both you and your audience are interested in.

>>9945742
dude,she is the only one who can still maintain easily 10K around that era.
All those relic around her time that was considered big name: Ai-chan, Sora, Shiro, Moemi, Mirai Akari....all struggling to get half of her numbers.
She easily peak 30k back in 2018 is nowhere near how amazing the fact she can still maintain average 10K 3 YEARS later

>>9945893
For a /vt/ thread??

>>9946068
For slaying SEAniggers who don't know anyone out of holobubble when they claim something something e-celebs blahblah

>>9946126
Rent free.

>>9946050
Sakura Miko blows her out in viewership and has been around nearly as long so her 10k really isn't that impressive. Same for Suisei actually who has also been around nearly as long if you count her debut as an indie.

>>9946126
Wut? You are not making any sense. Live-ranking has the same vtubers ikioi has.
How including non vtubers would advance any case you could make against "holobubble"?

>>9946171
Sakura Miko and Suisei had an average of 500 views back in 2018 and early 2019.

>>9946171
Miko is completely different situation. She doesn't have many audience back then, and never kept them anyway. She gets this massive exposure under new audience after two year being a literal who.
It's safe to say big chunk of Mito's audience from 2018 still watches her, but Miko just inclling very hard due to exposure to new audience.

>>9946326
>>9946336
This is not advancing the case for Mito, if the numeric argument is just
>she got to keep half her massive original audience, unlike Suisei and Miko that actually increase their in the meantime

I understand the point being made: Mito is a survivor of another era that is competitive in the new one. It is just the way you guys are putting it that is causing confusion

>>9946191
Because tons of tournament pro player and JP big streamers are not list on userlocal, but they often joins the same tournament or collab with a lot of Vtubers.
Therefore whenever someone brings up 'e-celeb buff' 'normie numbers' or 'leeching'
You need not only the vtuber's number to know what the hell is actually going on.

>>9946433
I'm not the anon you were talking with, but comparing Suisei and Miko that became popular basically overnight, is not the same thing as Mito who managed to keep relevancy for years.

>>9946326
>Sakura Miko and Suisei had a small viewership by the time they were starting
wow no-one would expect that

>>9946622
Mito, Miko and Suisei all debuted in 2018. You don't know shit about any of these girls, do you?

>>9946615
>overnight
Not really

Miko started picking up in popularity after she got transferred to Hololive after being a solo project for a couple months. She gained popularity all the way through 2019/2020 up until she had to step away for health reasons. Then her wonderfully produced come back show shot her viewership up into the top tier of vtubers and they haven't really left as she has remained there ever since the come back show.

>>9946622
Mito: imagine can't get 30k live viewer back in early 2018 without company buff

>>9946820
anon, you're here trying to argue that
>losing relevancy through time
is actually better than
>gaining relevancy through time.
quit your retarded deflections

>>9946826
Miko was not popular at all during 2019, in 2019 she was still networking with indies (the infamous Kosaka dick twitter reply pic) and even nijis, she got her shit together in 2020, thanks to the eop buff and nigger clip.

>>9946901
nice keep digging your own grave

>>9946968
I'm not arguing that, I said already that I'm not that anon you were talking with, I'm saying that you're retarded for comparing these two.

>>9946986
In early 2019 sure but by the end of the year her viewership was steadily increasing. I wish VNUMA was still around because it had the viewership totals for all those old streams. In early 2019 her viewership was in the hundreds but by the end of the year it was in the thousands.

>>9947036
>NTA
>quit your retarded deflections

>>9947016
I don't see how play the 'you are ESL!' card can help you from this.
I'm afraid the one digging down is you anonchama

>>9947073
>anyone that disagress with me is the same person
Okay, schizo, go be a newfag somewhere else.

>>9947133
>>9943992

>>9947049
Friendly remind you the one and only reason for all this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of_VGpoC19w

>>9946486
Still not making any sense but I give up.

>>9946615
I agree with the statement but as >>9946968 said, instead of the correct argument

>Mito is remarkable for having remained relevant even being a product of another era, one that she practically created by embracing live streaming while all of the heavy hitters were "let's play" VOD uploaders
people are getting sidetracked into making the wrong argument
>Mito is remarkable because, despite getting worse numbers than Miko and Suisei and getting worse numbers than her own self 3 years prior, she is still not dead

>>9947223
I was not just the nigger clip, it was the lava clips too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhd91FmGALg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Knad1173M

And now you understand why we use retarded memes for the op instead of ranking charts

>>9947165
>schizo
>newfag
>no u
>NTA
anything else you want to try or would you like to go to sleep now?

>>9946615
>Suisei
she didn't become popular overnight. She was slowly inclining even when she was at INNK, had a burst when transferred to hololive and kept inclining trough all of 2020 and now keeps inclining even though she didn't have big events other than the still to come sololive in October and album release in two weeks.

>>9947434
>and now keeps inclining even though she didn't have big events
I'd argue that the release of Ghost and the live she held to release it were a big turning point

>>9947468
eh, depends. She was inclining before that.

Who the fuck is this korean channel how is it allowed to just considered it as Vtuber channel and take the top view spot?

>>9947736
they were already big when they converted into vtuber. But I agree they shouldnt be included

>>9947736
the like of admiralbahroo, perhaps?

>>9945742
>Struggles to hit 10k

>12k Zatsu
>14k Zatsu
>12k Horror Kusoge
>12k Drawing
>13k 12 Minutes
>8k Shinymas
>15k Zatsu
>10k Zatsu with Rimu
>12k Idol manager
>22k Zatsu

In the last 10 streams
What did the tribalnigger mean by struggles to hit 10k?

Guess Kiara struggles to hit 3k and Gura struggles to hit 15k right?

>>9947736
Converted channel. They started vtubing in June according to google translated Korean wiki https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B0%95%EC%A7%80 section 2.2

Beautiful

>>9948439
If only she took another hour to finish the game in the last VOD, it's at 750k.
PEKORA I NEED 4 1 MIL VODS IN A ROW.

>>9948439
same views for all videos, heres proof that they are botted

>>9948496
No no, 4 is bad luck. Let's keep it at 3, 3 is lucky.
Well, we have an Ina chatting, a Fauna ASMR, a Mumei marshmallow, Ame spongebob, and Baelz Karaoke.
Of these, only the Baelz karaoke looks to perhaps bring in some unexpected numbers, since this is the first Council Karaoke.

>>9948725
>Baelz karaoke
>Overlapping with Calli's Jump king
10k is good if she can reach it

>>9948725
>Baelz Karaoke
This is 3 weeks late and could've actually helped her secure a core fanbase.
Not saying she'll be as good as Irys, but Irys still gets 12k every karaoke.

>>9948866
Sucks because this was her chance to really shine without much competition with Ame likely to have a short stream and Ina and Gura out of the way. But Mori, who's been on a roll lately, is playing a meme game that has new interest following Pekora's streams of it.

>>9948994
I don't think Mori playing Jump King is going to be so massive a draw that it will overshadow Bae's karaoke, and I know I'm just speaking for myself here but they seem like the kind of streams you could watch simultaneously fairly easily (provided that Bae isn't the type to talk for half an hour between songs like, say, Shion).

>>9948001
ok ok
struggles to hit 15k
better?

>>9949133
That’s almost everyone

>>9949224
mito = random among everyone

got it

>>9949320
? I think you need reading comprehension reps

>>9948994
To be honest, I think Baelz is going to beat Mori's jump king in the overlap.
Mori is self-proclaimed awful at games and jump king is a game that gets pretty meh viewership at the start. The CCV usually ramps up the closer the streamer is to the end.

>>9950621
>Mori is self-proclaimed awful at games
Ironically Mori is probably one of the better Holos when it comes to platformers, but I agree that CCV will only ramp up if she actually gets close to the top, that's how it usually is for most people who play it.

>>9950678
Theres a good chance mori will pick it up faster than most Holos.
She's someone who watched a lot of twitch streamers and jumpking has been a meta game for the last 2 years.

>>9948981
It's definitely late. If any of the council girls can sing (people say Baelz and Mumei can?) they should have done karaoke much earlier, I don't know why they'd wait.

The thread is messier than usual, did something happen?

>>9948001
>struggles to hit 10k
Yeah, she does since just about every one of those is barely above 10k and one of them is even at 8k.

Also Zatsu spam and FOTM meme games................such amazing content. No wonder she is getting 8k when she used to get near 30k back in the day.

>>9951000
Sana is doing unarchived karaoke tomorrow, if she actually does metal (she said she used to be in a metal band) it could actually do wonders for her.

>>9951068
>Zatsu....such amazing content
Indeed, it's peak vtubing content.

>>9951254
I see Nijiniggers have very low standards, but we already knew that.

>engaging in a discussion about content quality
Fucking retard no one in this thread watches streams you idiot

>he watches the streams
Anons, plz, you all should know watching the charts and the incline / recline is enough

>Lauren isn't even at 200k subs yet.
Jesas I thought most of Eden gumi passed it.

>>9951991
Typical Manjisanji. Even though Lauren isn't a female he has a female name so Manjisanji fans are immediately turned off from even checking him out because they think he is a female. We all know Nijisanji fans don't watch female streamers.

>>9945692
NijiBVLLS I kneel

>HOW DO WE SAVE APEX LADS?!
Seems like Valorant is the new APEX. Can Kuzuha play it?

>>9952279
APEX numbers overall are currently in the shitter because EA and Respawn were too busy working on the next nonbinary trans genderqueer disabled PoC Legend to pay any consideration to their servers. It's been impossible to load into or out of a match all week and every APEX event has had to be rescheduled due to the devs' gross incompetence.

I have to sat 8.4k for a zatsu is exceptional

>>9952279
>Can Kuzuha play it
go knock on wood right now before he spams it for a month straight again, not even he can make that game interesting

Threads gone to shit so time to post another shit topic.

Can we conclude based on Gura's sub numbers that her growth is mainly due to her own fans botting her subs the same way Kpoppers do?

Her CCV is fairly consistent and yet her sub count continues to rise at an alarming speed. (150k last 30 days)
I saw an anon post that she had 19k Members in her last Memberpoll so I'm willing to guess that she has 2-3x times that as consistent viewers spread across various timezones/vod watchers or people cherrypick streams.

I don't think her core base has the level of churn that would warrant 150k people subbing in the last 30 days are also people dropping out. That level of churn wouldn't cause people to member for example. Even if only 1/3rd that number were stream watchers and not clipfags that kind of churn is insane. Not only that but if she really was constantly discovered through viral clips than her sub count would be alot more reactive to viral clips instead of a consistent steady growth.

>>9953234
Too many words for
>SHARK TOO STRONG, PLZ NERF!

>>9953234
That's not how youtube works
People don't regularly unsub from channels, at all.

>>9954118
Yes but even channels similar in size to Gura have less than half the growth

Someone like Ludwig who has 3mil followers on twitch. and 2mil subs on youtube
As well as similar number of subs as Gura's numbers along with similar CCV only gained 60k followers on twitch and 70k on youtube.
What's crazier is that Gura's CCV isn't increasing despite this huge increase.
I wouldn't say gura's fans are twice as likely to click sub and then fuck off as much as any other streamer. But I would say her fans are more likely to bot due to their parasocial relationship with the streamer.

>>9951991
Funnily enough Lain outnumbers all of them in subs.
Lain: 240k
Leos: 233k
Lauren: 190k
Axia: 177k
Oliver: 134k
I don't feel like any of them are doing anything huge to get subs which explains the steady growth, Leos is spamming random games, Oliver is Oliver, Lain is continuing the 'tehe I'm dumb' schtick which paired with her model is ez subs, and Chronoir 2 are spamming endurance.

>>9955258
You cannot compare Gura and Ludwig. One is a Twitch streamer with steady daily content and the other is a girl who gets dozens and dozens of clips.
You know when people link the channel of whoever's featured in a clip, and when you click it the prompt to subscribe appears? I feel that's what causes a lot of vtubers to gain subs fast. Watch clip, find her cute, check the channel out, big blaring box that says sub, shrug and click. You can't just point at channels and go 'too many subs must be bots'. Everyone has a cap to how many regular viewers show up to a stream.

>>9955258
>due to their parasocial relationship with the streamer.
FUCKING KEK, do you even know the general fanbase for EVERY VTUBER?!

Please keep using the retard pics, OP. It filters a lot of numberniggers and tourists.

>>9955258
Meet Hikakin, the most subscribed Japanese
Youtuber
>pic related
Gura is just Hikakin, but more competent at live streaming and, hence, getting better numbers

>>9955258
>But I would say her fans are more likely to bot due to their parasocial relationship with the streamer.
If you want to see what fanbases with parasocial relationships do, look at the SC rankings, not subs.