/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Fauna's ASMR performs within 10k as usual. Any predictions on Baelz's archived karaoke?

>>9967863
At this timeslot? Probably around 10-15k. Might be higher because its her first karaoke but I'm not betting on much higher

>>9967863
At least 5k. She was nervous during her debut stream, so it's a bit difficult to gauge her ceiling.

>>9967863
gonna bet on 10k even when overlapping with mori jump king, this is the usual IRyS time slot for karaoke iirc and she's absent this week so hoping some of that audience check out baelz

>>9968213
You're lowballing it. She's a Holo, she will get at least 5k doing anything as long as it's not a retarded timeslot.

Yesterday's rankings

Rrat will be overlapping with Mori jump King later, this might hurt her numbers

OP is a faggot

>>9968875
Seethe

>>9968710
Is jumpking even that much a buff?
i dont think mori will do an endurance speically after coming out from one.
i say she will get 7-8k since it is archived and will be mostly japanese songs. I recall the rrat has some impresive voice control so it could rise depending on the perfromance..

>>9968933
Jump King is a meta streamer game kinda like getting over it, so it does get relatively big numbers because everyone wants to see their streamer suffer.
That said it usually gets more numbers the further they get into the game and I don't think Mori is doing an endurance so it probably won't get fantastic numbers

>>9968933
Really depends on the streamer, if she keeps going at it like Pekora did then it will be a big buff.

https://youtu.be/bhBxq6PBeeo
Oh yeah that reminds me, HoloEN has been going on an convention tour recently

>>9968933
Thanks to Pekora it may have become a buff game. And seeing Mori getting angry is a must see
Okayu, Kanata's numbers weren't impressive when they played before

>>9969335
Seems like a massive waste to not sell online tickets for this, I know they'd have made money hand over fist for them. Especially the panels that had two girls.

>>9969423
Okayu and Kanata's numbers were really good once they got near the summit, which is sort of the point. Jump King is like GoI where the closer to the end you are, the bigger the buff it is.

>>9969423
Didn't Kanata get like 20k for her jump King stream? Thats pretty good numbers for her.

>>9969541
Most of the conventions aren't really set up for online streams. I think Anime Expo is the only one that actually makes you pay for the stream (that's the con where most of the major announcements get made).
Makes me wonder how much the cons are paying for Hololive to show up.

>>9969541
Yeah they should've set up a online portal. Even if they sold it for ten dollars a ticket they'd make a small fortune

>>9969577
only at the end. Plenty of time there she was 6-7k

>>9969577
No she peaked at around 12k.

>>9968341
that collab didn't buff shibuhal at all

>>9969768
I don't follow Hal very closely but I'm pretty sure he doesn't usually get 20k

>>9969983
you are right he gets 12k-15k when not doing scrims or trouneys for apex.
Sub 10k for most other content

>>9967485
I didn't see the decimal point at first

>>9970150
>144cm
>442 kilos
IMAGINE

>>9968933
Jump King is a buff game no matter how you look at it. Pekora can never get 1M with regular minecraft.
>tfw Pekora can finish Jump King faster than Forsen

>>9970328
Only if you commit to it, Gura got her usual numbers for jump King because she never got out of the starting forest zone.

>>9970383
Why would you play a suffering game without trying to complete it? That is the entire appeal to the genre.

Pekora is GTAV what numbers will she get ? It's not usual time slot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OL-xvD37Qw
Speaking of karaoke Sana is doing one later tonight during jp time. Number predictions?

>>9970516
That feels more like Euro time than JP time. It's also at 3am her time, what is she up to

5 minutes before both stream starts:
Baelz: 3.6k
Mori: 2.6k

>>9970477
She's played GTA before, I'd say 20-30k. Her usual numbers because it's not anything major.

>>9970446
She uses it as a zatsudan stream.

>Mori 2.8k waiting
>Baelz 3.9k waiting

>>9970563
Botan with 2.6k as well, with Okayu at 1k. Not a bad little slot.

>>9970548
Oh yeah it is euro time, sorry u thought it was airing at 11pm jst not 2am

>>9970548
>what is she up to
she is taking some days since she is getting her vaxx and doesnt want to schedule with the fear of not feeling well.
So tomorrow is 3 streams in compensation

>>9970477
This is her usual weekend slot, actually. She usually plays a long game every weekend, last week was last guardian.

>>9970569
But there are a lot of good streams and its not her usual timeslot. I'd say 24k peak

>>9970516
> Sunday, 2 a.m. JST.
> Saturday 1 p.m. EST.

Unusual time slot. She's not a good singer, so I don't think she can get a good number (10k+) unless she follows Ame/Noel SOVL set list.

>>9970383
>Only if you commit to it
Yeah seem like it, Peko only got about 26k for her first stream. She gathers her audience in one slot for the next stream through 12hrs of suffering.

>>9970771
>>9970812
ohh yeah didn't notice its already weekend. Time flies by

https://youtu.be/gUDjXSt3blY
Some ori song numbers.
Top is Unison, Reflect, then Kaf's new song

>>9970446
Potential short stream with no obligation to finish unlike a long game like Doom.

>>9971046
Might as well stream Battleship or Monopoly.

>>9970997
Top 100 dropped down to 15.7k views huh, down from 22k last week.
If I recall Unison was Marine's big project wasn't it? She said she managed to convince Cover to cover half the cost.
Heart Challenger actually manage to make it to top 100 kek

Finally a good number thread, the other one is full of tribalism it makes me sick. It seems Hakos gets good number with her first karaoke.

>>9971248
School started back up so alot of kids suddenly found themselves with alot less free time.

Judging from the numbers, do you think the golden age of vtubing is finally over? Not to say that it is declining, just that it plateaus now.

Damn that growl

>>9971366
Almost like there has to be a fucking split in the numbers thread of all places to get a decent thread now.
>>9971522
Covid buff is pretty much over. Going to suck for anyone who didn't make it during the year period to grow much unless they orbit around the big vtubers.

>>9971522
It is just solidifying as a different style of streaming. Hopefully, with more 2views dropping, we might get less trash.

Daily SCs numbers?

>>9971692
>2views
?

>>9971522
people need to go out

>>9972013
Lockdown should be forever.

Today's superchats

>>9971916
The thousands of people who jumped on the vtuber bandwagon after HoloEN debuted expecting to stream to HoloEN numbers but never broke triple digits. Those guys are all starting to graduate now so the field is getting alot thinner

>>9967485
Why are so many people stressing out over 44.2 kg? Assuming she's not like significantly shorter than her "official" height it's a healthy weight.

26 mins. in, Baelz just broke 10k.

>>9972336
The only ones who are stressing out are girls who are naturally sensitive about their weight and IMAGINE posters

>>9972446
She's apparently really good at singing so it's attracting quite an audience

>>9972258
Arigato anon-kun

>>9972239
Not in the states, they would rather die than stay cooped up at home any longer

>>9972629
She's doing the Polka style of karaoke where she keeps changing her pitches to extremes.
>>9972744
The states has been mask free since around June.

>>9972446
>>9972629
i wouldnt call it good but she shift between ranges really good.
i keep underestimation this rrat on her numbers. if she wasnt an ausie she would be a 8k regular

>>9972744
That is why Covid will never end in that country

>>9972808
>>9972744
>Not in the states, they would rather die than stay cooped up at home any longer
>The states has been mask free since around June.
I don't care either way. I hate the traffic. I hope lockdown being enshrined in constitution so that I don't have to deal with traffic again every day.

Sana has a lot of interesting streams all lined up (in pic): A unarchived karaoke, then her first serious drawing stream, then a council meeting on her channel.

I guess she is going to be drawing after all the feedback.

Council are really the unity gen huh, unless I missed Fauna near the start of the stream, everyone else showed up in Baelz's chat.

>>9973058
She's doing these now because she has to take a break later?

20k watching EN. If this was just Mori I don't think it would have been higher than 12k.

OH NO NYANNERS DON'T LOOK

>>9973120
Fauna showed up earlier in the stream with Mumei and Sana.

>>9973141
She will break for two days. She said she will be doing more drawing streams for members in the future. Sana said before that she sang for a metal band, but don’t know how serious that actually was. Probably just a small band of friends. Should be interesting anyway.

Baelz still going up, 11k now and might hit 12k.

This karaoke stream might endear Hakos to more JP audience, her singing voice is rather silimar to many JP vtubers. And that is a good thing since her streaming hours are JP hours anyway.

>>9973711
Alright she hit 12k for a bit, wonder if this is her peak or could she still go higher.

Mori 10k

>Pekora can't sing, be entertaining in games
>Baelz isn't entertaining/fake voice, she can sing
What is this?

>>9974341
Peak IMO, which is solid considering.
There's 22k people watching HoloEN on a friday night, when before gen2/IRyS these would literally be dead hours half the time with only the occasional mori stream.
I don't know how addled people are by big numbers, but that sounds like a rousing success for audience retention. (And this is with 3 JP streams going at the same time too)

>>9974341
Depends on how long she streams, her viewers are steadily going up the longer it goes on for

>>9973711
>12k
Anon just told me EN2 got nijien tier numbers. Did nijien incline so hard that can get a 5 digit numbers? Holobronies ready to get fuck

>>9974728
go back to the other thread

Also botan with 11k on mobile cod and 7k for okayu WW. Falre is at 3k but she is replaying the 1st chapter of deltarun. i wonder if she will incline a lot once she starts the second one.

>>9974814
>Also botan with 11k on mobile cod
It's the new proper game, anon.

>>9974728
The biggest issue with the two underperformers* (For HoloEN) is that they're doing inconsistent timeslots with poor game choices for numbers. IMO they'll be fine in the long run, but its going to make it a bit of a slog to bring their numbers up, whilst Kronii is the clear all-star with Mumei coming up a strong second. Fauna looking to be solid middle of the pack (14k-12k-10k-7k-5k) doing very, very, VERY rough guess of future numbers for Kronii->Mumei->Fauna->Baelz->Sana

>>9970997
Top 10
Hololive: 8
Nijisanji 0

Top 20:
Hololive: 15
Nijisanji: 1 (15th place - Entertainer from Rain Drops)

Top 50
Hololive: 37
Nijisanji: 7

Top 100
Hololive: 63
Nijisanji: 17

>>9974920
WHAT
im so out of touch nowdays with curretn shooters

>>9974962
I feel you man, I've literally fallen so out of touch with vidya since discovering hololive I didn't even know wrath of the righteous released until yesterday

>>9974945
Well...
I know YT ain't everything, but wow that Hololive split. RIM+Kaf being in the top 10, the usual then.

>>9974945
Hololive markets their talents as idols so its no surprise music would be a big draw for them. Anybody surprised that they mog Niji is just a tribalfag.

>>9975180
Well even if YT isn't everything, original songs can be listened/bought on other music apps. If they're doing well YT, you can guess they are also doing good in Spotify/Itunes. Or even, just good sales overall.

>>9975367
>paying for music

>>9975367
Yep, they do. Some Spotify numbers for reference. Although this doesn't necessarily hold true for the JP talents. Spotify seems much bigger for the EN talents.

>>9975548
How does Spotify work? Is this the number of times people downloaded or listened to her songs? Does she get paid for each time?

>>9975548
I don't use spotify so I don't know how musicians are paid on that platform. Is it based on the number of listens or something else?

Baelz on her last song, looks like 12k is her peak for now.

>>9975548
Got damn 300k

I'd bet my ass half of those bought at least one song

>>9974945
Mori:10 songs
Suisei: 9 songs
Watame: 5 songs
Kiara: 3 songs
The rest are 1 to 2 songs in the top 100.
28 Unique Talents (2 Holostars)
>>9975720
30 seconds of play time and in a playlist. That's all the matters.
0.004 USD on average per play.

>>9975798
>The company officially establishes a payment of between $0.003 and $0.0084 per stream, with an average payout of $0.004 per stream
So assuming average payout, Mori/Cover made $34,446 from RIP on Spotify alone, not counting any of her other songs. Not too shabby at all, really.

>>9975798
Yes, they're paid out from revenue generated from spotify subscriptions + ads, and the rate is about $0.003-0.005 per each 'stream' from what I could find.
So like, 27k from 9 million 'streams'.

Really shame how Kronii wants her karaoke to be in members first til she gets confidence, would be nice to see how much she'd get for her first karaoke, also that's likely gonna get leaked anyway.

>>9976055
>34,446
37,446, rather. Not that this number means much because different companies negotiate different rates.

>>9976090
She has reason to fear. Her singing skill is not good.

>>9976151
Get back to the other thread

>>9976151
That makes it great though, Noel gets high numbers.

>>9976193
Hey I am just stating what I heard, I have no horse in either racecourse.

>>9976193
Other thread is on page 9 and is dying. It's only a matter of time till this one gets flooded.

>>9976113
Mori making a good chunk of change just off royalties from streaming services.
From what Watame said, a lot of the costs from music making can be written off for taxes in Japan (according to her accountant).
I would think they would make less money if they actually got signed to a recording studio instead of just having Cover publish their music.

I TURNED INTO A GHOUL AND AM LOSING MYSELF LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>9970997
That's not KAF's new song, that's her main staple.

Also cool to see HACHI maintain her presence in the top 100 for the fourth week in a row.

>>9971248
Unison being at 267k views is a big drop from the 400k+ views that the #1 track is usually at.

>>9976385
Does Anykara have their own recording studio or they rent from Sony?

>>9976806
Not sure but Nijifans seem to make it a big point that some of their vtubers are signed to record labels.

>>9976786
Yea, weekly views down for both Unison and Reflect, probs reflecting the fact that people are back to school this week, less time to watch/listen to songs on top of catching streams, and streams>songs for stuff to keep up on imo.

>>9976385
>I would think they would make less money if they actually got signed to a recording studio instead of just having Cover publish their music
They do, Sora's songs are all tied to a recording label because if a deal they signed back when cover was a small indie startup with big dreams and empty pockets and the distribution was bad enough that they tried to make their own music label in the form of INNK and Azki, which kinda didn't go anywhere and ever since then they've done all their music production in house.

>>9977055
They'd be better off giving Mori the special treatment for her MVs and Music. It's cheaper since she creates her own songs.

I think Baelz should put singing in JP as her main niche if possible. Sure it might coincide with IRyS as a Vsinger, but there is something about Baelz's voice that is more casual instead. Plus, her deep voice in some songs does bring a certain uniqueness to it. This karaoke seems to have a really positive reception and good views as well.

>>9977177
Any involvement from Cover means less creative freedom and a lot of red tape I would assume.
I remember Kanata talked about this when she was rushing Kiseki Knot before Coco's graduation announcement.
Mori making her music without Cover's help also means she gets a way larger percentage of the revenue.

>>9976538
>>9976683
Pretty much the two only good posts from the previous thread

>>9977260
No she should be EN's Pekora to draw in the numbers. She has the potential.

>>9977375
No cover's issue is that they have a limited throughput and a long queue for songs so if Kanata relied on them to make kiseki knot it wouldn't be done before Coco's graduation. That's basically the deal when it comes to cover support, you can wait on us and it'll be done eventually without much costs from you, or you can do it yourself and it'll be done quickly and to your specifications

>>9977437
Yeah, I really don't see what you're suggesting. You think she should literally do Pekora stuff like setting up traps and gimmicks in Minecraft, or just assume Pekora's style of content creation in general? In either case I see no evidence she has the capacity.

>>9977015
cope for a declining branch.
>people dont listen to music at school or work

>>9977803
GO back to the other thread

>>9974945
Now for the more important numbers...

>>9977899
Why are you using a 9 month old chart. Go back to the other thread.

>>9977899
Nigger it hasn't been January for nine months now what the fuck are you doing

>>9978052
>>9978087
Oh yeah it doesn't include Bouquet sales. Here you go:
>1st week - 14,637
>2nd week - 1,501
>3rd week - 681
>4th week - didn't chart
>Total 16,819

>>9977803
>>9977899
Imagine being this triggered by numbers

>>9977396
Actually that brings up a good point, how saturated is the JP market these days?

>>9977899
What's funny about this chart is that it shows that almost every song made from Nijisanji members are all from record labels.
Probably sucks having to divide the revenue between Nijisanji/Record label and everyone involved in the groups.

>>9978365
That's a sad cope

>>9978365
You can just say that fans buy the CDs from booth, casuals buy from oricon.

>>9977899
>>9978121
>>9978365
>>9978389
If you want to be a numbernigger, there's a thread for that.

Pekora GTA is at 24k and still inclining.

>>9979161
Those are just normal numbers though

>>9979189
Not the regular numbers for a weekend afternoon though

>>9978847
Wasn't Hololive planning to open their own shop soon?

>>9979639
They already did. Pretty lackluster so far.
They mention on the website that they're stilling on Booth while they transition.
https://shop.hololivepro.com/

>>9979616
That’s because she was playing final fantasy for the weekends, and that’s a hard EOP filter so she was “only” getting a little over her 22k baseline.

GTA is a buff game for any entertaining streamer and allows for even a lowly foreign devil to enjoy the stream

>>9979616
Yes they are, those are the same numbers she got last weekend

>Suisei organizing HoshiSTAR (twitter)
>Reine organizing ToriBIRD (twitter)
>Mori and Rushia organizing Death Squad (confirmed on stream just now)
Do you think these kinds of themed units will be a good draw numbers-wise?

>>9979905
Cover put together one unit and it finally lights a fire under the ass of the other girls to do shit they could have already done. People have speculated about themed groups like this forever and Kiara has been soft pushing holobirds for a while but actually getting proper content done will be a nice mixup from the norm.

>>9979905
Umisea did pretty well so there's definitely a market for it. It depends on how they sell it of course but it should draw pretty good numbers.

>>9980025
What I'm curious about is if it could raise the lower performing member of a group to prominence. We can't really tell with UmiSea because all four do very well numberwise, but if (for example) Mori/Rushia/Ollie became a real unit, would Ollie get numbers through more exposure to Deadbeats/Fandead?

>>9979905
Holobirds were already mildly popular and gets a decent amount of fanart.
Anything with Suisei will get popular.
Death Squad sounds like it could work but Mori barely speaks Japanese.

>>9980097
Don't worry Mori will just autistically stumble through the collab like she usually does and everyone will think she's cool anyway

>>9979905
> a good draw numbers-wise?
The potential is there, and it depends on the casts and the arc.

>>9980097
Mori speaks more Japanese than some of the other people included in these collab groups being formed (Gura, Moona, Sana etc).

>>9980083
If Ollie gets some gachis from both fanbase, then it's a win for her kek. Ollie is pretty good anyway for Holo standards. Apex, Minecraft, JSL/ESL, drawer and does superchat readings. All she needs to do is collab with senpais more often.

>>9979905
What is HoshiSTAR gonna be?

>>9979905
>HoshiSTAR
I really need to step up by "TRADE ALERT" game to ensure Hoshikawa can finally be a part

>>9980231
Suisei Astel Iofi

>>9980231
At very least, Hoshimachi Suisei and Moona Hoshinova.

>>9980231
Suisei, Sana, Moona, Luna and Iofi are the names I see thrown around. Suisei, Sana and Moona are the ones who have talked about it on twitter though.

>>9980274
This would be the "space" equivalent to umisea. Astel, Sana, Iofi, Aki

>>9980011
Yea. People /here/ are contrartian baiting bitches, but one of the things that Cover has been failing at is providing support for talents outside of the basics. Part of that no doubt has to do with the lack of staff the had before, so the huge hiring spree they went on is hopefully now allowing them to put forth some of the ideas they had to shoot down before due to either lack of staff or being a bit too tight on stream ideas (which has hopefully lightnend up with Coco's graduation waking everyone up a bit)

>>9980282
I just want these two

>>9980321
Uchuuspace

>>9980391
Two people isn't much of a unit.

>>9980444
I just want them to sing together...

>>9980231
Based on who commented at tweet, it's Suisei, Moona, Sana, and Mel

>>9980555
and the idea of Hoshistar comes after suisei watching moona singing.

>>9980555
>>9980755
It'll make Moona incline like crazy again though. Just her Japanese OG song got her 2.3M.

>>9980784
It's definitely gonna make people notice her singing more, that's her goal in the first place anyway

>>9980875
I definitely think Hoshiyomi like the idea of Suisei collabing with EN/IDs on songs, look how well Getcha did.

9/1 - 9/17
Both have the same number of streams

>Pekora (number of streams: 16)
10,000 - 19,999: 0
20,000 - 29,999: 7
30,000 - 39,999: 6
40,000 - 49,999: 1
50,000 - 59,999: 1
60,000 - 69,999: 1

median: 31,088
average: 34,212

>Kuzuha (number of streams: 16)
10,000 - 19,999: 4
20,000 - 29,999: 5
30,000 - 39,999: 5
40,000 - 49,999: 1
50,000 - 59,999: 0
60,000 - 69,999: 1

median: 23,514
average: 29,493

>>9980945
I agree, Moonafics like the idea of Moona collabing with Suisei in a song too

>>9980953
both are actually corresponding to their sub counts.

>>9981022
Please. I'm. Not a moonafic, but just listening to her singing she definitely needs to do more collab songs (that don't use the crummy mixer she got for Turing Love)

>2020年8月~2021年7月の期間のライブ配信の量は
>葛葉は1680時間で100,800分
>兎田ぺこらは1286時間で77,160分
>となっております。

>※配信技研のデータからグラフ作成

>年間の数値を1日あたりの時間になおすと
>葛葉だと5時間、ぺこらだと4時間。

>>9981171
>that don't use the crummy mixer she got for Turing Love
That was definitely just an unfortunate circumstance, all the other better mixers she has worked with was fully booked

>>9981178
Well obviously, he streams till morning at times. There were times that Rindou felt lonely in bed when her man is streaming, so she bought a dakimakura of him to keep her company kek

>>9981178
Moonrune translation:
It's comparing hours streamed for the period of August 2020 through to July 21st.
>Kuzuha: 1680 hours, 100,800 minutes
>Pekura Usuda has 1,286 hours and 77,160 minutes.
>Averages out to about 5 hours of streaming a day for Kuzuha, 4 hours a day for Pekora

Giken watched time numbers

2021
>Kuzuha (hours)
>Q1: 9,065,567
>Q2: 6,949,857
>Q3 (current): 6,740,783
>total: 22,756,207

2020 numbers from APR 2020 - DEC 2020
>25,961,437

overall: 48,717,644

total stream hours: 2,372

2021
>Pekora (hours)
>Q1: 8,180,226
>Q2: 8,727,183
>Q3 (current): 5,617,963
>total: 22,525,371

2020 numbers from APR 2020 - DEC 2020
>28,029,064

overall: 50,554,435

total stream hours: 1,726

>>9981594
Q2: Kuzuha
King....please, don't go back to Valorant....the numbers.....

>>9981594
>>9981639
>.please, don't go back to Valorant
Hey may not have an option, with APEX servers at the sorry state they're now.
Is ARK a potential buff or potential debuff for him? Nijisanji seems to be going into an arc ARK

>>9981679
Depends honestly, NijiARK seems to reap good numbers but I doubt it'd be higher if Holos start an ARK arc too due to it being one of Coco's other legacy

Mori got $4.5k already, and she's still stuck in the beginning levels

>>9981679
They had a nijiark early this year and that didnt do well.

>>9982057
Why? What exactly didn't do well?

>>9981981
Are deadbeats all oil princes and ceos?

>>9982189
Lonely IT professionals with more money than they can spend is my guess. The western equivalent of the bachelor salaryman.

>>9982189
We call them richbeats for a reason

>>9982189
Probably also has to do with the fact that a lot of people don't mind giving her money because she clearly "puts it back into the business" if you will. She is constantly coming out with new originals/covers with the money she gets. Guess they appreciate that she isn't just coasting with it and being lazy.

>>9982284
Both Calli and Ame are good picks to invest because they make use of the money. Don't know about Gura and Kiara though, they should hire a financial consultant like Ina's parents.

>>9982478
I think Kiara makes a big deal out of investing every proceed of the songs she releases into the next song, one logistical part of the "STREAM ____" meme, how efficiently she does it i have no clue about though.

>>9982703
I'd like to think she's at least breaking even, but since she's never had to do this sorta thing before she's probably annoyed at all the stuff she needs to do for solo songs, whereas Mori's been at this for years now so to her it's just same old same old.
Yea, each and every one of these girls MUST get an accountant if they don't already have one, just to help keep track of costs and tax breaks etc. One of the best investments for someone who doesn't have the time to handle all of the numbers themselves.

>>9982703
anon, this shit is NOT cheap +Cover not only did NOT help her, but Fucked up itunes/spotify version last time

>>9982703
Kiara said on stream she has 300,000 Euro in a savings account which is hilarious

>>9983232
>One of the best investments for someone who doesn't have the time to handle all of the numbers themselves.
I mentioned this back in the "emperor Hal" arc, the millisecond you are making more money than just basic subsistence AND doing so as contract work
1) the first extra money you get MUST go to a good accountant. A good accountant pays for his own cost on the money (and time) he saves you
2) the second money goes to a good contract lawyer, which in the long run pays for his own cost as well

>>9983288
>Cover did NOT help her
Other than official brand releases they don't help anyone, every girl is free to do as they please
>fucked up itunes/spotify version last time
What happened?

>>9983396
>Cover did NOT help her
im 100% sure holoJP at least help some talents to connect with producers/mixers (for exmple last few songs of Sui and Watame were made with collaboration with sony musician(im not sure who))
>fucked up itunes/spotify version last time
im not sure since i dont use both, but name was incorrect so ppl cannt find it by searching in EN + "someone" stole her song and post it under the name of some JP singer

>>9983396
As a tax accountant I agree with this.

>>9983396
>the second money goes to a good contract lawyer
Kiara had meeting with lawyer few days ago (+ her brother has work related to same stuff (her helped her with tax))

>>9983342
That's just absolutely bloody stupid. Unless shit is going to hell-in-a-handbasket, throwing that stuff into the most brain-dead diversified mutual funds is better than having it sit in a goddamn savings account.
>>9983631
Oh, that's....yeaz I can see why Kiara would be pissed about that. That's just shoddy.

>>9983288
Kiara doesn't deserve any help and would whine either way

>>9983774
>I can see why Kiara would be pissed
+ dont forget about announcement of iRys(and her album) right after her Kiara's BD/song premier (management didn't talked or discussed this with anyone of holomyth)

>>9981679
No, all the ARK fun has tired out. It isn't the same no matter how many times they make a new server, you can't replicate the same wars everyone raved about plus everyone's way more busy.

>>9983774
What do you expect? It's Kiara. You don't expect sound choices from a girl who went to become an idol in Japan when she's a teen. Ina's parents were way smarter, the moment they realized that Ina was making a ton from her job, they asked her daughter to hire a financial consultant/accountant. A stark difference between Kiara and Ina.

>>9983774
It is one of the few ways to apply for a Japanese long term residence visa though, which is why the topic got brought up in the first place

uh... with the tournament suddenly changing to arenas and bonbon literally dying, probably no hope for selen numbers tonight right?

>>9984511
>no hope for selen numbers
but Bonbon is almost 1 k

>>9984511
Apex servers are fucked so trying to host a tournament right now is a no go

>>9984400
>>9983760

>>9983774
Not even a gold bug but given the recent market uncertainties and the negative interest rates she would be better off just buying metals and storing it in her neighbor Switzerland.

>>9983896
Cover didn't fuck anything up there, that was just Kiara getting pissed she wasn't treated special.

>>9984425
Oh, that makes....much more sense, but is still...sigh...
Yea, if she's planning on trying to gain a visa through the wealth option I can understand having a large amount of just cash. Still unsound finicially imo, but different longterm goal

>>9984635
>mr producer/label, let's work together
>okay
>listen to our talent, here's a demo
>okay
>3/10vocals.png
>permanent ghost status achieved
I wonder if Kiara really thinks her vocals are good enough for professionals to want to work with her

>>9983631
>im 100% sure holoJP at least help some talents to connect with producers/mixers (for exmple last few songs of Sui and Watame were made with collaboration with sony musician(im not sure who))
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>9979905
>mfw no holorodent..

>>9979905
>Mori and Rushia organizing Death Squad (confirmed on stream just now)
Fucking 5% bitch never collabed with Rushia

>>9985121
Peko doesnt need those leeches

>>9981022
Of course they would. Just means more heavy lifting for Suisei.

>>9985295
Moona is a better singer than suisei

This guy's subs and viewers are not too bad for a Korean male vtuber. Niji will have the market for males cornered in Korea if vtubing continues to get more popular there. Hololive will have the market for girls.

>>9985361
mb but her EN her accent riuns it for me a bit

>>9985365
>Niji will have the market for males cornered in Korea
>100% EOP chat
>english stream titles

>>9985361
>Moona is a better singer than suisei
numbers thread full of fantasy

>>9985563
Suisei came up with hoshistar after listening to Moona. Go seethe more faggot.

>>9985295
If you mean by numbers then yeah, but if you mean by singing, they're both at the same level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl_ZvRuiuEo

>113k followers

>123 watching

How it is even possible?

>>9985599
>>9985628
Thinking Moona is at her level or better is delusional.

>>9985733
Okay yeah I agree, Moona needs more training but Suisei wouldn't need to carry a lot since Moona's a very good singer as well

>>9985656
The answer is.....dead subs.
Oops, this is what real dead subs looks like. She's listed as an ASMR artist on vtuber wiki, but none of her stuff as of late is such. Obviously whatever people subbed for isn't what they're getting now, so to 3 digit CCV she goes I guess.

>>9985889
>>9985656
>113k followers
her ccv was like this for a while ~6 mon

>>9985656
>12/8/2017
She has been steaming for 3 years so it's kinda possible.

>>9986032
>3 years of streaming
>only 100 viewers

Even shitty street idols get more fans in this period of time. I don't understand how a vtuber with fine avatar and voice that plays popular games can get only 100 viewers today.

has the MC thing started? I seen Kuzuha at 23k, Was expecting like 30-40k.

>>9985656
HoloEN kind of killed a lot of these japanese chuubas who have "I can speak english" as a part of their appeal. Even Pikamee lost a good chunk of her viewership although she is a lot higher than Lily naturally.

Lily is great though and I still watch her from time to time. I love her weird voice and I really hope she gets picked up by one of the big orgs if that is what she wants. Maybe its not though since she seems content where she is.

>>9986278
It's oddly low for everyone. Hikakin is only getting 8k. Is it just a warmup before the main event starts or something?

>>9986548
I think the ability to speak English is helpful, but people aren't interested in watching translators. Still need to have other qualities that are interesting enough to draw and keep people.

>>9986586
Minecraft is Hololive's game and Hololive wasn't invited. Simple as.

Either it's too early or they've massed such a dedicated FPS audience they only care about that, Even Stylishnoob is pretty low.

>>9986278
>>9986586
>>9986705
If you think that's low, wait till you see Day 2. If one of them invitees gets at least 7k, I'll stop shitposting for 2 days.

The official broadcast has 1.4k viewers, I thought it would be bigger than it is.
and people thought Holo was missing out, lol.

I don't understand these numbers. Everyone is getting below their average viewers. Only Ibrahim is doing well, but he still gets more wandering around his sky castle.

>>9986982
It wouldn't shock me if the greater japanese Minecraft audience is more in tune with Hololive since Minecraft is such a big part of the culture for Hololive. Not inviting anybody from Hololive seems to have been a mistake. Minecraft is Hololive's game. Imagine how an Apex tournament would be received if it was loaded with Hololive members and no Nijis. Kind of the same thing.

>>9986982
>I don't understand these numbers. Everyone is getting below their average viewers.
It's not really rocket science, is it?

>take a cast of streamers that are at the top of the business by entertaining a huge audience with their FPS streams
>join them all to play.... M-Minecraft?

I bet Minecraft Japan just read the names out of a list, thought they could leech off of Kuzuha, Hal and crew and went with it.

>>9987021
Are there no big Minecraft streamers on the JP side other than hololive?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmL3GUMV04M
8k waiting for the new VSpo

>>9987021
>Not inviting anybody from Hololive
Huge assumption there. Maybe they did invite and got turned down.

>>9987104
VSPO is cementing themselves as the 3rd force in the industry in Japan

>>9986973
>>9986982
>>9987021
did somebody say Minecraft?

>>9987021
Pekora could ironically gets better numbers if she ever wanted to be in an apex tournament though. Her skill in the game is shit, but if she's there for fun, everyone would tune in to watch. Her collab with Suisei and Towa got her like 31k or something.

>>9987104
16k now

>>9987137
Seriously

Any of the Hololive Minecraft heavy hitters would be killing it right now. Pekora, Miko, Aqua, Flare, hell, even Moona.

What the actual fuck? Literally the biggest Minecraft collab with the biggest Japanese streamers losing to a fucking chicken and bunny collab. Kek

>>9987196
19k

Peak numbers (at the time of this screenshot= for those I believe to be participating in the Minecraft thing

>25,868: Kuzuha
>24,756: stylishnoob4
>18,301: fps_shaka
>10,942: Kanae
>10,688: Tokai
>10,240: Ibrahim
>8,836: Hikakin
>8,285: Fuwa
>7,161: Mayuzumi

Why would they promote MC to an audience that already consumes it? If they want more people to play their game, converting some fps casuals maybe the best way

>>9987196
Daily charts anon should take note of this later. It's 19k now. Even higher than nijiEN kek

>>9987289
Already beating NijiEN debut. Impressive.

Link me the playboard link so I can include in today's top. If it doesn't get picked up by playboard take a screenshot of the approx

>>9987289
19k CCV/28k Subs. REAL GURA KILLER, I KNEEL

>>9987241
I was wondering why the thread is so slow while big event is happening, turns out nijis can't numberfag their event numbers
in other news, Suisei peaked at 9.4k (?) is it good number for 2nd playthrough? any other holos play the tales of arise?

>>9987339
DON'T JINX HER!
>DELET THIS POST!

>>9987300
You'd be dumb to think fps casuals would want to convert to minecraft of all games. Even Kuzuha doesn't like to play it.

>>9987352
considering others want to play it themselves/not be spoiled and she's not streaming in her usual hours, It's pretty good.

>Japan biggest minecraft speedrun collab
>Can't even break 30k
WTF king bros???

>>9987339
Fuck you bastard, now you've done it.
>>9987352
Don't do that Anon, c'mon. It really isn't fair to compare EN and JP audiences when it comes to jRPGs. I don't think any streamer is even known for playing jRPGs on Twitch, at least, not one that has any large following.

>>9987182
Well she did get better numbers during that Fall Guys tournament even though their team was the worst one

>>9987021
Yep its like not inviting dreamsmp

>>9987352
>any other holos play the tales of arise?
Wasn't Kiara the ambassador of the game or something?

Game is a hard debuff and 9.4 is a great number beating Kiara's sponsored "Ambassador Ceremony & Exclusive Info and Footage!"

The viewers are low on hololive side too however. What's going on? What's with these abysmal numbers everywhere?

>>9987446
you're using Holo dex which lags behind, Kanata is already at 5k.
Come on at least be genuine.

>>9987291
>Hikakin at 8.8K
what the hell happened?

>>9987446
Pekora had 29k earlier man, it's just been several hours and ppl probs having dinner right now (7pm Japan). Kanata just started, and deltarune is a minor debuff game from what I've seen of numbers. Miko is playing undertale way after everyone else, so that's not going to fetch the greatest numbers either.

>>9987289
She got close to 20k, but youtube started dying. That may be the peak.

>>9987212
>heavy hitter
>Moona
She's lucky to get a high of over 5k on Minecraft. You could invite most of the people in Holo JP and get better numbers.

>>9987510
Explain Miko sub-10k and Pekora only 22k playing a buff game.

>>9987446
>low
From your screen I’m seeing
>Pekora 5 hours in holding above her median
>Suisei around her medium
>Roberu high as fuck

Flare is the only low tho, Kanata was starting her stream and is already near her medium

>>9987573
Well if you're gonna act like a retard then you're not getting a reply.

>>9987446
>Flare, Pekora, Suisei
They are all way passed the point of inclining, look at how many hours they streamed already. Pekora already peaked with 31k a few hours ago.
>Miko
Deltarune is bad numbers for all the holos who have streamed it so far and Miko is playing Undertale like 6 months late.
>Ollie
Apex, nuff said.

Ok boys. New Umisea collab song. What are we betting on for views within 24 hours. 4 of the biggest hitters in Hololive, Marine, Aqua, Gura and Ina all with an original song

>>9987598
Probably not as much as you would think. Its only the short version and you have to go to Spotify to hear the full version.

Songs like that never get huge viewership.

>>9987573
>Explain Miko sub-10k and Pekora only 22k playing a buff game.
Pekora is on hour 6 of her stream, having peaked over 30k already.

>>9987531
He's like pewdiepie. People watch his VODs, he's not really known for livestreaming. Pewds has over 100 million subs and can barely crack 10k CCV on his streams.

>>9987573
Miko is a better entertainer than Pekora when playing GTA, simple as
GTA is not a buff game for Pekora

>>9985226
Pekora's the one who brought the most focus on it though, I don't think either Risu nor Baelz mentioned that kind of unit. Also fans forget but technically Kanata should count.

>>9987595
Miko's stream was also rescheduled since it was supposed to be at Noon her time originally. I'm sure that hurt the viewership a bit. She did hit 10k though.

>>9987628
Ahoy did, the version on Marines channel is only half the length of the full song

>>9987638
>Miko is a better entertainer than Pekora when playing GTA
True

>GTA is not a buff game for Pekora
Her AVERAGE ccv in this stream is 26k

>>9987598
Hoo boy. This one is tricky, it's on the main channel so a lot of Gura's YT only watchers who don't bother to check twitter might not see it. She isn't streaming tomorrow either since she has another day of Expo. I'd say 1m in 30 hours tops. Still bloody fast, but it isn't going to break records unless this song turns out to be bloody amazing.

>>9987639
It's just a costume, anon.

>>9987675
And Ahoy would also have just as many views as RIP if it was the full version. Ahoy did very well regardless but "short version" is still a pretty big debuff. The UMISEA song won't be hitting Reflect numbers due to this. If it was the full version maybe.

>>9987598
>4 of the biggest hitters in Hololive, Marine, Aqua, Gura and Ina all with an original song
Doubt it beats either Reflect, Gura’s King or Unison

>>9987639
Why are you responding to a shitposter?

>>9987683
Yeah I think people underestimate how many chumbuds aren't aware of the existence of Hololive beyond Gura.

>>9987683
>unless this song turns out to be bloody amazing.
Ehhhhh probably not

>>9987754
Sounds like it's aimed at Gura's audience

>>9987754
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>9987754
Hahaha...ah man, yea. It'll do well enough but this is more of a silly song then. Breaking records this will not be doing.

>>9987782
they should've just covered baby shark

>>9987794
It's Cover's flavored incompetency, what's new. I would've taken a good sounding group song that's not a meme and all about the sea and treasures.

>>9987598
>Ina
>heavy hitter
How long did Violet hit 1m again? Not a shitpost, a genuine question since I don't see Ina as a heavy hitter in the same level as the other 3

>>9987683
Didn't the Matsuri and Gura cover get like a million on Matsuri's channel? The main Hololive channel might not be as big as any of the others in the song but the hologra can crack 1 million views sometimes. I will put it as reaching 1.5 million views in 24 hours.

>>9987291
this is must be missing some peak right? no 30k?

>>9987744
I've always wondered what the reason is for this. Gura seems to have a massive fanbase that just doesn't care about Hololive beyond Gura and it's bizarre

>MY E-EMPEROR...
Whoever casted this collab on Minecraft's side must have been fired by Cover for incompetence (heh) and then hired by MC Japan.

LOOK WHAT HEY DID TO MY GOLDEN BOY'S NUMBER!

>>9987598
As long as its not as awful as the Country Roads song, it should be able to reach a million views.

>>9987850
Only Gura and Marine are the heavy hitters but Ina and Aqua are top tier Holomember

>>9987929
Only 30k peak stream today so far was Pekora's GTA.
I'm actually assuming Kuzuha will make an impromptu collab with Hal and Akukin after this to wash off the stench of this terrible fit for a collab

>>9987966
Even the country roads song reached one million in a few days and still consistently ranks in the top 30 most viewed hololive covers. There is literally no scenario in which it will not do amazing numbers.

If scuffed EN country roads get 2.5M, you bet the scuffed umisea song is gonna get 2M too

>>9987968
Aqua is most definitely a musical heavy hitter, if I may say, even more so than Gura (which doesn't really release that much)

>>9987953
Fuck off. Hal is an honorary Holo. Don't talk shit about him.

>>9988011
It's not getting 2.5M, it's how much time to 1M.

>>9988038
You're mistaking him for his collab partner, Hoshikawa. Common mistake too

>>9988027
>Even more so than Gura
She isn't. If Gura released more songs on a regular basis she would even blow Mori out of the water. Both of Gura's songs will surpass that 13M song that Aqua has by the end of the year.

>>9987639
>I don't think either Risu nor Baelz mentioned that kind of unit
Risu dd befor Pekora did

>>9987953
The midget emperor..

>>9988094
Take apex away and you get....

>>9988027
Maybe a year ago, Aqua's inactivity though has made her numbers on songs go lower, that duet with Shion should have easily gotten a million views in a few days just like that other Aqua and Shion duet on Shion's channel but looking at Aqua's channel its not even 300k yet.

>>9988072
>If Gura released more songs on a regular basis
My point exactly

>>9987953
He won the this thing tho

>>9987569
Moona can get some self insert EOP & SEAnigger viewer to join biggest minecraft collab & no matter who it is Hololive viewer will watch it from Holomem POV as a representative.

>>9988130
The print screen provided has 4 over 2M songs in the past 12 months, with 2 being in the past 4 months.
She's most definitely a musical heavy hitter, I could make a ranking of "songs released in 2021 over 1M" and Aqua would certainly be in the top positions

>>9988059
That slut is a Holo reject so no, anon.
Hal has always been an honorary Holo. More so when Niji tried to steal his tourney concept, but then Matsuri stole the show and won it for him.

Ema breached 20k

wonder who's gonna generate number on the day 2 Minecraft jp.. vspo girls? Or the niji girls that j don't recognize?

>>9988081
Risu talked about it after being chided by chat, Pekora talked about it out of nowhere. Pekora is infinitely more interested in Holorodents than Risu is

>>9967485
The only number I hate to see go down.

>>9988170
Those 2 songs your referring to within the past 4 months are of covers that were getting popular during that period. Like fucking Kiara's cover on that Goodbye Sengen has 3 mil and no one will say to you her songs are popular beyond kfp pushig it as a meme.

>>9988226
did her subs slashed by YT pre debut?
good debut number, i think higher than nijiEN girls? could be mistaken

>>9988234
Highest I could give is probably Hakase, 4k...

>>9988226
21k

>>9988252
Risu should take this chance and leech on Pekora and Baelz
Who knows, she might be ID's new moona

>>9988370
22k and this might be the peak

>>9988404
Risu lost motivation to try when Moona surpassed her. Really though, I feel like the best way to drag her into a unit is if its with Korone and Okayu.

Damn, what a disappointment. Not even 30k. Hikakin at the fucking bottom with not even 9k.

>>9988161
People skip over "important stuff" and events all the time. APEX tournaments, fall guys, concerts, birthdays, etc. If their oshi isn't in it, they usually don't give a damn.

>>9988404
>she might be ID's new moona
Seems unlikely because at the same time, Suisei is interested in making Hoshistar a group as well but yeah, who knows, the future is uncertain

>>9988452
Genius choice of Niji for Minecraft.

>>9988440
>>9988370
>>9988226
w8 who is this bitch?

>>9988506
VSPO debut. Welcome to the thread and lurk moar if you want to know about numbers.

So far that debut is the #3 of the day, trailing only Pekora and Kuzuha, and also these are the only three above 20k for the day so far, with Pekora being the only one above 30k

>>9988452
Minecraft jp already on IV drip and banging their head on walls for not inviting any holos

>>9988452
the chocies forit are just dumb. i thinkg is still ok numbers but nothing amazing just wasted potential.

WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD MINECRAFT FIGHT TO THE DEATH?

>the biggest Youtuber in Japan armed with TEN MILLION SUBS, celebrated by the mainstream media, social media and the dark web in a massive collaboration with the King, the Emperor, the Sultan and the Prince plus the whole royalty of worldwide FPS in an invitational sponsored and advertised by the makers of the game themselves
>one (1) aussie chick playing alone at midnight doing nothing but collecting some material and touring the server

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE, BAFFLE, CONFUSE AND ANGER YOU AND DEPLETE YOUR SAVINGS FUND!

>>9988636
I swear these messages get more and more retardedly elaborate the more I see them.

>>9988636
I'm going chamachama for Haachama!
Well, I do hope that whatever the goals MCjp had for this event were met, because at least from a numbers perspective this looks like a rather mediocre showing from the outside looking in.

>>9988702
It takes a team of six (6) writers working overnight to come with these.
>b-but the numbers just got released
We actually make one for each possible outcome

>>9988709
Oh boy, day 2 would look even worse. It's an indie number fest.

>>9988709
>I do hope that whatever the goals MCjp had for this event were met
Here is what I would do if I had to promote Minecraft

>gift BOTH Hololive and Nijisanji a beefed up server and lend the tech team to set it up to ensure it is working properly and flawlessly
>SPONSOR the great innauguration of each of these two servers, with the only demand is that they make a big event out of it

There, based on the numbers Usaken, Akukin and other big events for Holo (and based on the giant numbers for Niji company wide events too) they could get a whole more for their buck by doing nothing but giving away some free merch and ensuring it works properly

>>9988702
Or more like more retarded

>>9988801
So, in line with how these threads get some of the time. Perfect.
>>9988785
That sounds like a great idea. Which is why it's never happening.

Why do they need to sponsor and promote a game like minecraft though?

>>9979905
How about a singing group? Towa, Kanata, Irys for Holobible.

>>9988885
Don't know, it's minecraftJP. If they wanted streamers, they have an assortment of Hololive members that could bring 100k people whenever. Day 1 could go to FPSfags, but Day 2 should've been for more prominent minecraft vtubers in Japan.

>>9988929
Chioco can't sing but fits the theme too for HHH (Holo Heaven and Hell)

>>9988933
Come on now, something are just not meant to be, its honestly easier to ask niji to lent their members for event like this via their friends. I imagine its just not worth going through the process to ask cover to assemble the 6 men team for this.

WHO WOULD WIN

>the second biggest stream of the biggest vtuber company from their most popular vtuber
>some loser jap fooling around in a kiddie game

THE ANSWER WILL MAKE YOU NUMBERCOOM YOURSELF TO DEATH
by the way the first biggest stream just barely won by 200k views

>>9989036
Bad bait anon…

>>9989036
>second biggest
kek, surely the biggest stream fooled your plans, didn't it? It takes the sting out if you have to compare the strongest of one side to the second strongest of the other

>TODAY'S NUMBERS SO FAR
Missing VSPO debut with 22k and RatGirl Karaoke with 12k

>>9989147
>Missing VSPO debut with 22k and RatGirl Karaoke with 12k
CHARTANON WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR PIYO REPLACEMENT

>>9989119
Well it happened months ago so it's not that fair while that minecraft premier is one of the latest. Of course I could pull older video but that won't work in your favor.

>>9989174
Chart anon is making a piyo replacement? ...please don't give me hope...

>>9989185
You are missing the point, it's not that whoever that jap is can't beat Hololive VOD numbers (it is obvious that he can), it is that the joke falls flat if you have to disclaim you used the second biggest for one of the sides

>>9988448
but weesu is the one who brought holorodent in the first place anon

>>9989242
Nah I just don's see how retarded one can be to unironically compare performance of a streamer and a side content of a mainly video based youtuber.

>>9989147
Where's Mito and the other female Nijis, bros?

>>9989219
He mentioned it a couple weeks ago about making a piyo replacement and was gathering ideas for it, but that a couple weeks ago. Last I heard he said something about getting shitfaced with beer

>>9989269
All of that effort is due to salt for the "who would win" shitpost? Boy, you should see a dermatologist to check the thickness of your skin

>>9989147
..kuzuha gonna stream again later right? apex server fixed right?

>>9989273
In Nijisanji I guess

Pekora is surely going for the "hours watched" meta this month.

>>9989327
Sponsored game https://youtu.be/X5qse3ZVoCE
He reserve stream if its sponsored lol

>>9989327
Kuzuha gonna stream a sponsored game

>Miko gets 50% more viewers out of nowhere
Did someone ends their stream?

>>9989313
No salt, just perplexity about what should be happening in somebody's head to make that comparison.

>>9989396
>No salt, just perplexity
That's even worse! Your first time in this thread? Just wait until the kneelposters arrive then

>>9989361
Can he get a higher peak than Micra? Last time he shilled this he got 28k.

>Anycolor funds great official Niji songs like Virtual Strike and multiple singles for Raindrops
"Damn why doesn't Cover capitalize on this and release agency-funded, professional-level music too?"
>Cover funds and releases https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1439168570487816199
"n-nevermind..."

They probably trusted Camellia too much this time cuz this preview sounds pretty shit right now.

>>9989395
>Did someone ends their stream?
Pekora GTA

>>9989458
hey country road cover was shitty too but still got 2M views, this will not so different, hololive power is that strong

>>9989396
>perplexity
This is where you made your mistake.
They're shitposts so even thinking about how they came to be is already a waste of time.

>>9989458
The Bloom stuff was good, but I don't know what the hell this shit is supposed to be. They really wanted something that appealed to the worst of EN. The bad thing is that it isn't like Camellia just made it and threw it out there, people had to approve this.

>>9989516
I'll make sure to use "CONFUSE, BAFFLE, PERPLEX etc etc" next time as a homage

>>9989551
It honestly isn't that much different from old touhou meme songs, you're overreacting

>>9989458
It just sounds like a typical cute rhythm game song. It's not bad but it's not special

>>9989551
Is there no chance for teddyloid to make a song for Hololive?

>>9989458
It's.... fine? Like sure it isn't an amazing piece of music, but it sounds like something silly you'd come up with for fun and run with it.
Tastes in music aside 1m in 48 hours is the longest I'd put it at, with it probably getting to 1m in under that without a problem.

>>9989339
That is peko everyweekend
is normal for her to stream long hours on saturday sunday

https://twitter.com/Vspo77/status/1439191684324020226?s=20
Another vspo debut this month. Looks like they are ready to expand.
Can vspo become third biggest Japanese vtubers group after Nijisanji and Hololive?

>>9989832
774 still holds that spot and I don't think Vspo is inclining that fast

>>9989832
2nd biggest behind Hololive. Nijisanji is dying.

>>9989832
>Can vspo become third biggest Japanese vtubers group after Nijisanji and Hololive?
They already are. At some point this year they definitely overtook 774.

>>9989361
>chink game
sasuga chink bootlicker company

>>9990112
You are saying this while a 774 member is currently getting more viewers than any VSPO ones usually do.

>>9989864
>>9990112
Ok which is it? post some numbers, subs count, highest live view, sc

>>9990072
They still have Kuzuha anon…

This is the biggest VSPO member. They still have a long way to surpass 774, let alone Niji. Niggas are smoking crack.

>>9989627
He made a new one for Rain Drops album instead

Hikakin is streaming minecraft rn (started 30 mins ago) and he's at 38k so WTF happened a few hours ago when he only got 9k?

>>9990467
Whoops I mean ▽△TRiNITY△▽ album

>>9989458
I've heard a reference to younger listeners in lyrics. They were definitely trying to make their own baby shark song.

>>9990477
Maybe his stream viewers has the same mentality as Gura's viewers? (as in they prefer to watch his own stuff instead of collabs)

>>9990588
Or maybe it's primetime not in the middle of the day?

>>9983774
She talked about having her money in mutual funds all the way back since April or so.
The visa thing is just something she could do if she wanted. She has no intention of staying in Japan long term again.
>>9983232
She has experience self funding songs before she was a Hololiver. Her record label (same as Sora's current) stopped funding her group after their first album didn't reach sales quota.
She has had an accountant for several months already since she moved back to Europe.
>>9983396
Cover fucked up and released her song under the wrong name. All her songs are released under her English artist name but for some reason they put sparks under her Japanese name. The spotify thing was just a scam artist who was putting songs under popular artists names.
During her song release it was put under the wrong category and when it was switched to the correct one it shadowbanned her song for a few days.

>>9990477
Fucking kek, the greatest fuck you to the sponsors, it seems

>>9990477
>10m subs losing to 900k subs

>>9990477
It's regular Minecraft instead of competition thing.

>>9990803
At least Hikakin doesn't get dislike bombed for being an asshole

>>9990954
>At least
this isnt winner speach

>>9990803
If anything he's the one who's losing. He was easily getting over 100k viewers just last month.

>>9990954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dWMWK2sFyA
You weren't kidding. Jun is getting 3.3k dislikes on all his streams and it ain't pretty. That's like Aqua/coco during the zhang dislike bomb phases.

>>9991135
>dislikes
qrd?

>>9990954
That's king asshole you're talking about, mind your tongue when talking about royal numberfags.

>>9990660
That is some good info. Kiara's streams are just at absolutely horrible times for me, and unfortunately I get hard filtered by voice/game choices from her. Makes getting proper info hard.

>>9990187
Someone posted an image with all JP agencies and showing how they fared. 774 was still third with VSPO on 6th place. I forgot if it was related to viewership or SC revenue though...

>>9991210
KoreTube is king drama and he gets more viewers, less dislikes and has channel monetization unlike Jun.

>>9991135
Engagement is engagement

>>9991365
Pretty sure it's just subscribers amount

>>9990660
>She has experience self funding songs before she was a Hololiver. Her record label (same as Sora's current) stopped funding her group after their first album didn't reach sales quota.
ay info about her pre Holo solo songs?
>She has had an accountant for several months already since she moved back to Europe.
>she talked about having her money in mutual funds all the way back since April or so.
when did she said it, mem stream?