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>> No.10041323 [DELETED] 

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>> No.10041332

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>> No.10041373

>>10041313
My favorite number is 71

>> No.10041376
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>YESTERDAY’S NUMBERS
With the big surprise being that VSPO debut at #4.

>31,832: Pekora (hololive)
>26,897: Kuzuha (nijisanji)
>24,675: Kuzuha (nijisanji)
>22,171: Aizawa Ema (VSPO)
>18,391: Marine (hololive)
>18,351: Miko (hololive)
>17,603: Subaru (hololive)
>13,774: Shion (hololive)
>13,557: Flare (hololive)
>12,897: Rushia (hololive)
>12,673: Lize Helesta (nijisanji)
>12,635: hololive (hololive)
>12,568: Kiara (hololive)
>12,172: Baelz (hololive)
>12,073: Botan (hololive)
>11,895: Subaru (hololive)
>11,743: Korone (hololive)
>10,942: Kanae (nijisanji)
>10,702: Ibrahim (nijisanji)
>10,586: Calli (hololive)
>10,452: Haachama (hololive)

>> No.10041394

>>10041373
For me, it's 12.

>> No.10041398

>>10041313
No OP, I don't think I will.
Alright, since the MK tourney is in a little over an hour, here are my predictions based off of viewership + Player skill level
Suisei: 20k
Fubuki: 12-15k
Botan: 8-12k, depending on if she's been doing off-screen reps
Rushia/Noel: 8-10k
Watame, Mio, Flare, Towa: 6-8k
Luna: 3k
Roboco/Aki: 2-3k
Winner's perspective leeches viewers from the rest. Dominant winner leeches even more.

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home sweet home

>> No.10041422

>>10041394
Any special reason?

>> No.10041427

>>10041398
If you’re going by peak you’re selling Luna short there

>> No.10041449

>>10041427
Rushia too, I bet a lot of people will come just to watch her rage

>> No.10041465

>>10041398
You missed Lamy.
Botan got sicked, and is replaced by Aki.

>> No.10041471

>>10041422
Three 4's
Four 3's
Bringing the unity together with 1 and 2 in his name, never forget those who came before you
Unit name: dozen

>> No.10041487

When's the official Minecraft collab starting?

>> No.10041499

>>10041427
Mmmm Yea, I've probably put luna a little too low, she should go up to 4-5k.
>>10041465
Fek, I saw Lamy and my thought Botan. Yea, Botan out, Lamy in at the Watame level for viewers.

>> No.10041523

>>10041487
Never

>> No.10041530

>>10041487
It's already started and the viewership is terrible

>> No.10041535

>>10041487
Already midway through

>> No.10041545

>HoloEN girl streams
>Gets like 5k views or something
>Marine streams
>Gets 30k viewers

The fuck?

>> No.10041695
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Pekora is surely in top form. Good choice of games, way better numbers than FF series

>> No.10041798
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Mori released the last member's only stream that will be made public. This is the last SC boost that she will get on Playboard from that, most Hololive members aren't releasing these streams.

Last stream $ 2,433
Total $ 68,724 (27 streams with chat's archive)
Average $ 2,545

There's more streams that will not be released or don't have the chat's archive.

>> No.10041833

>>10041798
So about Mori's membership stream, she will not upload them anymore and i heard that she is going to get rid of the tier thing?

>> No.10041855

>>10041833
Yes to both. Interestingly enough she was specifically told by management she wasn't able to change the tier system until she'd done it for a year, even though she wanted to change it early on.

>> No.10041904

>>10041855
What's the rrats now? omega is here and in deadbeats general and see the negative feedback?

>> No.10042031

Funny enough VSPO girls has higher views than niji team on the MC event

>> No.10042040

Are other holo streamers getting a similar amount of surperchat during member's streams?

>> No.10042049

>>10042031
Only the top 2

>> No.10042090

>>10042031
Would have been great if any of the bigshot Minecraft Holos did one Minecraft stream right now.

>> No.10042094

>>10042040
they don't release them like mori, so we don't know.

>> No.10042126

>>10042031
What the fuck is happening to Nijisanji?

>> No.10042147

>>10041855
Is there a link to the stream when she said it? I'm glad she change it though. Wonder why she is different from other Myth's.

>> No.10042157

>>10042031
Wow that's great for the VSPO girls! Too bad for Niji but they're really reclining

>> No.10042172

>>10042031
Guess debut buff also spread over to the other members.

>> No.10042181

>>10042126
>>10042031
dont Niji-fans care about MC at all?

>> No.10042205

>>10042031
Poor Niji they're really pathetic now if they have even less views than VSPO whos

>> No.10042217

>>10042205
>>10042031
what happened to famouse Niji-tourny buff?

>> No.10042219

>>10041376
How is the breakdown of Kuzuhs'd number? Is it majority Japanese or overseas? Is there more women than men?

>> No.10042247
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>NijiEN today
It clearly looks like an incline for all of them but maybe they just had a bad couple of weeks and these were always their normal numbers.

>> No.10042258

>>10042219
JPs
males
>sources?
my ass

>> No.10042268

>>10042219
I am not sure of breakdown by sex but based on chat I would say it is almost 100% japanese

>> No.10042279

>>10042247
pretty good MC numbers

>> No.10042284

>>10042217
It's not a Niji tourney

>> No.10042326

>>10042258
>>10042268
So with the amount of superchat Kuzuha is getting, it means that the Japs are now getting more generous? Something changed?

>> No.10042341

>>10042284
i meant "tourney buff" in general wich Niji has

>> No.10042377

>>10042341
It doesn't always have that and neither is that a Niji specific term.

>> No.10042379

>>10042126
>>10042181
Nijisanji ain't really that good when it comes to Minecraft cause they aren't really the creative type people. They do try-hard it sometimes but they usually copy designs from other content creators that's why their official Minecraft server is kinda stale.

>> No.10042389

>>10042205
Even the poorest Niji got more viewers yesteday than top Vspo today

>> No.10042426

>10042379
Bad bait

>> No.10042427

>>10041855
If you edit tiers it refunds everyone currently subscribed to them
Probably the reason why she has to wait a year on them since no one knows if the people who committed to an ongoing sub will do so if it auto-cancels

>> No.10042452

>>10042326
>getting more generous
First of all you're replying to CCV pic not SC, second of all he has been top SC earner of Nijisanji for a long ass time. If you're confused about his boost lately, he reached 1 million subs.
>>10042426
It'll get replies because must defend muh honor

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>>10042326
>it means that the Japs are now getting more generous
His SC grew proportional with his popularity.

Here is a chart of all of his VOD views across the time. He inclined in every metric in the past 12 months more or less in the same proportion of his VOD grow and reaching 1M subs and being in a couple of by tournaments helped to grow his SC numbers too

He was always a heavy hitter tho, #13 worldwide in 2020, trailing only 9 Holos, some korean channel, bintroll and MSS Project Channel
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-yearly

>> No.10042505

>>10042219
Found this vid with Niji audience sex breakdown but it's from last year so it might have changed
https://youtu.be/JYhZBBhmaWw

>> No.10042531

The thread seems peaceful (though a few saviorfags appears) when Nijis aren't doing too well
But when they luck out on numbers then assholes appears and shit on every Holos they can think of

>> No.10042559

>>10042426
>>10042452
i genuinely interested how much niji fans interested in MC. all i know is Sultan gets great numbers, but this is it

>> No.10042563

Kuzuha needs to blow up in the West, but how?

>> No.10042568

>>10042531
well, punching up is funny at least

bullying midgets just seems mean

>> No.10042577

>>10042531
It is quite literally one (1) shitposter, the "slow and steady" guy which happens to be the "HYPOCRYTES!" guy, the "Kuzuha ikioi screenshot" guy and the "NijiEN is a small startup" guy.

If people had the mental fortitude to ignore his obvious schizo ramblings and bad bait...

>> No.10042620

>>10042531
So Vshojo and Nimu shitposting never happened?

>> No.10042622

>>10042247
finana is inclining, but i think the wario game is a new game buff?

>> No.10042623

>>10042559
>all i know is Sultan gets great numbers, but this is it
Ars Almal used to get good Micra numbers late night too, in the same approx slot Watame used to play

>> No.10042644

>>10042563
He doesn't but for that he would need to change his content

>> No.10042650

>>10042620
Both by the same bloke as described here: >>10042577. You can add sodapopping and bahroo too.

>> No.10042651

>>10042559
I explained the low numbers last thread (it also applies to most of the other FPSfags present yesterday)
too long; didn't search:
No one gives a shit about MinecraftJP twitter
No one gives a shit about MC PVP
No one gives a shit about bedrock
Ibrahim building a megacastle is not the same as him dying repeatedly in a weird tournament that has long-ass explanation times for the minigames

>> No.10042668

>>10042531
Holy shit why didn’t I connect the dots? It totally makes sense how theres like a 99% decrease of autistic schizos in this thread. Or maybe its just coincidentally timed when OP started using non number related pics.

>> No.10042669

>>10042623
do they have 1 big niji server just like holos do?

>> No.10042671

>>10042563
>Kuzuha needs to blow up in the West,
No he doesn't. That could unironically hurt his numbers as there is a very thick line separating what type of content the Japanese audience expects vs. the type of content the Western audience expects

>> No.10042691

>>10042669
yes, they have the niji world server i think?

>> No.10042693

>>10042669
Yes. IIRC even NijiEN got to visit it recently.

>> No.10042699

>>10042622
I don’t think so. At least for Holo

>> No.10042702

>>10042669
No. Only Holos thought up of something that good

>> No.10042752

>"he" is here
kek, trying to lay low but he can't resist

>> No.10042759

>>10042622
Definitely hasn't been a buffgame for HoloEN or HoloJP, don't see any reason to believe it would be different for Niji.

>> No.10042808

>>10042669
There's a world server, 2 JP servers that are connected, a KR, an ID, an EN, and since yesterday, an offline world server.

>> No.10042815

>>10042693
>>10042691
so.. does every single (even smallest) nijiJP member allowed to build there?

>> No.10042827

i'm curious is there any marketable inter-branch relationship on the nijisanji side like the holos do? i'm thinking like pekomoona, gawrlic or holobirds. It also seems like nijiKR bora is closer to towa than her actual colleagues.

>> No.10042850

Holo MK Collab is about to start and Pekora isn't stopping. Pekora might lose 3-4k viewers when it starts.
I wonder if Suisei can reach 20k? And Rushia/Botan reaches 15k?

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>it's about to start
Any more predictions than the already made?

I say the relative order of peaks go
>Suisei -> Rushia -> Fubuki -> Lamy -> Watame -> Flare -> Noel -> Towa -> Mio -> Luna -> Roboco -> Aki

>> No.10042872

>>10042759
>Definitely hasn't been a buffgame for HoloEN or HoloJP
wrong

>> No.10042881

>>10042850
>and Pekora isn't stopping
That recently is actually a good thing, when she stops in the middle of others streams the auto suggestion moves large amounts of her audience to her colleagues

>> No.10042894

>>10042853
why does botan is missing from some of the thumbnails?

>> No.10042904

>>10042815
With how loose Nijisanji is compared to Hololive, they probably can but don’t because why would they? No one in Niji is entertaining to watch them play Minecraft. Except Ibrahim

>> No.10042907

>>10042894
Pulled out due to illness.

>> No.10042924

>>10042907
the jab?

>> No.10042927

>>10042815
Does every single allowed maybe

>> No.10042941

>>10042853
Suisei (20k)
Rushia (16k)
Botan (14k)
Fubuki, Lamy (around 10k)
Flare, Watame, Towa (around 8k)
Mio, Noel (around 5k-6k)
Aki, Roboco, Luna (around 1.5k-4k)

>> No.10042942

>>10042924
You got it, she said she's running a fever.

>> No.10042963

>>10042815
Weird question, why would someone not be allowed? Everyone who wants to play has played.
>>10042827
Marketable, as in releasing music or something? I don't think so, all international collab duos aren't really music inclined.

>> No.10042977

>>10042452
>If you're confused about his boost lately, he reached 1 million subs.
I see. Never seen a niji broke through top 10 before.
>>10042505
Thanks.

>>10042454
So he is growing organically too. What is his appeal? I mean something like Pekora's half tryhard gaming, funny skits/pranks and creativity etc.

>> No.10042982
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>Irys 17k on her unarchived Karaoke
Very good numbers, the best for her singing streams so far (unless Holostats missed any).

She surely is positioning herself in the "Suisei" model of singer / streamer

>> No.10042997

>>10042827
Big fat NOPE. None of the overseas branch are even popular (numberwise).

>> No.10043009

>>10042963
i'm actually thinking about inter-branch pairing that can bring good numbers.

>> No.10043048

>>10042977
>What is his appeal?
1) he streams at consistent hours
2) pretty much every day
3) for the most part avoiding debuff games
4) can talk while playing, entertaining the audience
5) participate often in tournaments and is competitive at them too

All in all, much like Pekora, it is easy to form an habit around watching his streams

>> No.10043057

3 people being over 10k would be decent for this.

>> No.10043059

>>10042982
I believe she could've got higher no. from the start but being a VSinger and her unusual model keeps people away

>> No.10043094

>>10043009
Good numbers is relative, there are several inter branch collabs that boost the lower performer like Haruka & Miyu, Hada & Elira/Selen, Yuya (RIP) & Chihiro, etc
There is no one having some sort of arc like Pekomoon.

>> No.10043102

>>10042982
it also actually helps that she's incredibly cute on twitter, i actually member her because of that.

>> No.10043111

>>10043009
Suisei/Toko exists and recently Nene/Kotone had released several covers
Pretty sure there's more but isn't just famous

>> No.10043117

>>10043048
Is APEX not a debuff game?

>> No.10043126

>>10042982
note1: 11.5k this 1 was during afternoon JST monda(debuff).
note2: till this day she didnt sing ANY same songs!

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>>10043009
>inter-branch pairing that can bring good numbers.
Other than a couple of KR that had their breakout (Nun and Hada) almost no ID or KR can break 1k, and most can't break 200 CCV standing firmly below the Gwelu line.

Other branches of Niji are, for the most part, their own thing.

>> No.10043140

>>10043117
Kuzuha's main game of choice is FPS aka Apex. Not all debuff games are a debuff to everyone.

>> No.10043167

>>10043048
>much like Pekora
she s got her cartoonish villain character kayfabe

>> No.10043180

>>10043117
>Is APEX not a debuff game?
kek, for for sake, Emperor Hal has his numbers buffed from sub 5k without APEX to over 10k with APEX.

It depends on the streamer, variety streamers obviously won't attract a large audience with APEX (specially if they try too hard) but for people doing mostly gaming it can be and is a buff

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>>10042977
>Never seen a niji broke through top 10 before.
Newfag detected

>> No.10043210

>>10043167
I would say that's just for the western audience. The main draw for her nip audience, for as much as I can understand them, is to see her try and fail and suffer and sometimes playfully lash out at the audience as if it is their fault.

>> No.10043232

>>10042997
NijiEN numbers are good, anyone who call pull an average of 400 to 500 viewers is in the top 1% of streaming

>> No.10043307

>>10043136
they really need to up their inter-branch tee-tee game to bring more overseas viewers to watch the JPs. I thought the bonnivier-selen collab is a good example of that, but they need to get close to their JP senpais more.
cuz it seems like nijiJP's communication with the EN and ID side still seems like a courtesy more than anything.

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With the collab start Pekora's audience went to
>22k
Which is the approx size of the nousagi hardcore audience and her global median of avg ccv too.

>> No.10043332

>>10043210
>her try and fail and suffer and sometimes playfully lash out at the audience as if it is their fault.
anon, this IS what i meant by "cartoonish villain character"
>that's just for the western audience.
children. (just like in Gura's case) who do you think watching MC streams?

>> No.10043340

>>10042977
His (normal) voice is good, he's funny in a stupid way and he's cute. I watch all his streams, unless I hate his collab partners. I've watched a bit of Pekora and they're kinda similar, especially the exxagerated streamer voice and the overconfidence bragging

>> No.10043343

>>10043140
>>10043180
>>10043210
From what I get is that if your audience is mostly Japanese then Apex is a buff. What the fuck is the appeal of Apex anyway?

>> No.10043363

>>10042941
As expected, Pekora lost around 6k when the MK Event started
Suisei will get past 15k but 20k seems hard
Rushia might get 12k
Botan is absent

>> No.10043380

>>10043332
>who do you think watching MC streams?
kek, I know I do and I'm no children. I can't possibly be the only one that enjoys having her MC stream on background and tabbing in on occasion to see what she's doing, or attentively watching her collabs with Moona and others

>> No.10043393

>>10043307
There is no point to this, it isn't like Hololive where LiveTLers are in everyone's chat to let EN speakers enjoy JP streams. The subbed clip culture is also dwarfed by Hololive.
Their communication is apparently more offline than online considering EN, ID, KR, and JP played on a MC server made for offstream playing.

>> No.10043404

>>10043343
>What the fuck is the appeal of Apex anyway?
It is a low battle engagement FPS that allows for the streamer to talk with the audience for the most part, and with climatic encounters that can make the streamer look like a hero for winning a lopsided battle.

>> No.10043409

>>10043325
Well she's been playing it for 5hrs today and 6hrs yesterday. Even i wanted a small break from 11hrs of GTA V

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>Aki beating Roboco
She's playing well or something?

>> No.10043567

>>10043307
petra used to have good vibes with ange but they just don't capitalize on that.

>> No.10043639

>>10042379
No that isn't the issue, the Holos do that too, the issue is that minecraft isn''t a nijisanji staple game like it is for Hololive, so it doesn't have that watercooler quality that it does for hololive where people who aren't interested in them tune in anyway to see their reactions to other member's works and the like. You see a similar effect with EN minecraft too.

>> No.10043640

>>10043340
So basically a male Pekora and Pekora is male Kuzuha. The main debuff for Kuzuha is probably the fact that he is a man.

>> No.10043646

>>10043567
You mean Rosemi. Ange talked to Rosemi who was in her chat one day in MC. That's it for recent interaction, which began from Rosemi doing the Ange intro challenge. Petra and Oliver are becoming a duo apparently.

>> No.10043652

>>10043380
>I do and I'm no children.
*sigh*
are you whole audience? we both know that MC bring a lot of children for channels/content creators who consider to be child friendly. Pekora pushs her channel as child-friendly (she said it several time on different streams) so she can get buff with appropriate game.

>> No.10043668

>>10043404
That only nips enjoyed.

>> No.10043681

>>10043343
Selen

>> No.10043685

>>10043646
ph yeah, im getting the cute looking ones mixed up.

>> No.10043703

>>10043441
Pretty sure she usually pulls a bit higher than Roboco anyway.

>> No.10043713

>>10043668
So there's no western admudience for apex? But they're japanese streamers with a majority japanese audience?

>> No.10043726

>>10043713
>But they're japanese streamers with a majority japanese audience?
Yes.
Seriously how new are you? We won't bite.

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>Pekora mogging the entire thing
This reminds me of the Kuzuha mogging

>> No.10043765

>>10043393
from what i know for the most part NijiJP isnt friendly to EOPs in general. for them EOPs are same as Slav plague in En chat

>> No.10043815

>>10043765
the chat or the streamer themselves?

>> No.10043839

>>10043765
I will have you know that slavs are polite and funny people and is always welcome in chat. They boost the numbers like any other groups too.

>> No.10043889

>>10043765
>from what i know
From the /vt/ resident tribalposter who says that Rindou's LiveTLer got bullied out of her chat. It's true. What he also failed to mention is he was flooding her relatively slow chat and not heeding her rules to not spam.
There is little to no live TL in chat culture, yet some have machine TL on their screen (which sucks) Otherwise, you have to follow Nijisanji fans on Twitter as they livepost/live TL there. A huge amount of JPs are responsive to EN comments, even with my shit JP I can pick up when they comment that a kaigai said something and if you post in chat at that time there's a better chance they'll read it too.
And of course you wouldn't know this shit if you don't know fans, as none of it is stated anywhere, that's one of the problems of getting into the JP side of Nijisanji to me. You usually can't just open a random JP stream and be able to follow their convos.

>> No.10043895

>>10043652
Whats wrong with child friendly? I swear you anons are the ones acting like children

>> No.10043924

>>10043889
Maybe people should, you know, learn Japanese?

>> No.10043935

>>10043728
Wow why is Kuzuha so low? He may be first but he is literally so close to Pekora WHILE doing a split pov.

>> No.10043937

>>10043393
It seems that japanese millenials (holo viewers) are more open and welcoming to EOPs than japanese zoomers (nijiJP) and i wonder why, after seeing the demographics last thread.

>> No.10043972

>>10043895
>Whats wrong with
nothing
this boosts numbers (look at Gura)
this was my point
reread.

>> No.10043991

>>10043924
Why should I learn japanese? Hololive already has liveTL and subbed clips

>> No.10043997

>>10043839
>>10043839
nothing against
slav-bros
this is just example of situation when streamers do Not want to communicate with audience what they do Not understand but forsed because of SC/donations/another form of support

>> No.10044032
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>>10041376
>my oshi reaches the top spots of charts just by sitting on her big bum and drawing

>> No.10044034

>>10043997
And like how Holostars chat are flooded with EOPs who spam "Idk what he's saying!!"

>> No.10044092

>>10043924
this>>10043991
god bless capitalism

>> No.10044091

>>10043972
Anon… I’m not retarded. I can see you’re mocking child friendly content. Did you really feel the need to correct western audiences to children? And asking who else would watch MC other than children?

>> No.10044111

>>10042563
Convince him to pickup CSGO.

>> No.10044140

>>10043935
Why can't hololive get big numbers doing split POV? Do you realize Kuzuha's biggest numbers come from tourneys where there are 50+ other POVs going on?

>> No.10044145

>>10044091
>I can see you’re mocking child friendly content.
>I’m not retarded.
i literally said i don't, shizo
stop put words/intentions in my mouth

>> No.10044155

>>10043991
Based, this kind of unhealthy worship of nips is retarded.

>> No.10044243

STOP
REPLYING

>> No.10044264

>>10043991
based, we're not in /jp/ anymore.

>> No.10044268
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10044268

pretty decent.

>> No.10044272

>>10043937
>japanese millenials
Wait aren't millenials in their 30's now? Zoomers are now in their 20's already right?

>> No.10044285

>>10043652
The "hero of the children" stuff is mostly a meme. Last two streams were GTA5 for instance.
She just avoids being vulgar, other than that she doesn't do anything much different from other Holos.

>> No.10044291

>>10044264
>successful divorce

>> No.10044301

>>10044268
i'm surprised rushia doesn't get more viewers.

>> No.10044350

>>10044140
Kazuha doesn't have much competition cause the other Nijis aren't really that good skill wise. Nijis are kinda top heavy in that regard. Most of the Holos are top tier that's why views are shared amongst them. If you compare their solo streams, pound for pound Holos are just elite. Kazuha's solo stream skill level is actually on the high-mid tier as per Holo's standards.

>> No.10044360

>>10044301
She kinda sucks at Mario kart so pretty much all the casuals went over to Suisei's channel

>> No.10044381

>>10043991
Why would you not want to learn Japanese to consume entertainment made by Japanese? is there even a point in it?

>> No.10044412
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10044412

sometimes I scared even myself
>>9996720 (yesterday)
>No S-tier so no huge numbers. But I think the hierarchy will go:
>Suisei > Rushia > Botan > Fbk > Towa > Mio > Watame > Noel > Lamy > Flare > Luna > Rbc

>> No.10044420

Ha, I was right to say Suisei 20k, and that if she was dominating she'd get higher.
There is only ONE other player in all of Hololive that stands a chance against Suisei in Mario Kart, and I'm not even sure she'll be playing in this year's new years cup after she broke down a bit losing to Suisei by ONE point.
Aqua....onegai....

>> No.10044432

>>10044285
>she said it several time on different streams
i didn't pull it out of my ass, you know.
im not saying what her audience IS.
im only pointing out in wich direction she is trying to push.

>> No.10044434
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10044434

This is just a massive collab not a tournament. Their tournament was months ago and even a-chan was there…

>> No.10044455

>>10044412
A god amongst retards

>> No.10044462

>>10044420
24k and growing.

>> No.10044475

>>10044140
Thats quite a retarded comparison to make. You see, Hololive is not just made up of 1 person unlike Nijisanji. While multiple Holos get around the same viewership, Kuzuha gets like 10x more viewers than other Nijis POV. Also Holo is doing a Holo collab so the fanbase is split apart while Kuzuha’s tournaments mostly have literal whos who won’t steal any of Kuzuha’s number. And by the way, you avoided my question.

>> No.10044492

>>10044350
Huge wall of cope to just say hololive relies on view funneling and box pushing to hit their numbers. If they are all together they get exposed as midgets.

>> No.10044504

>>10044434
hololive needs to copy niji and organize tournaments every month to get those sweet-sweer numbers.

>> No.10044512

>>10044381
Do you learn a new language every time you watch a foreign film?
Translations are readily available and can make the information understandable to you. I already know 3 languages, I don't see the point in learning a 4th niche language just for a couple of streams.

>> No.10044523 [DELETED] 

FUCKING WIN!!

>> No.10044553

>>10044475
>>10044492

>> No.10044563

this isn't even a tournament it's literally called loose mario kart aka just collabing with members since they were busy the whole summer.

>> No.10044624

>>10044563
Source?

>> No.10044637

>>10044145
You literally just pointed out the first and last sentence of my comment. Could you reread the middle part and spear me the bs?

>> No.10044640

>>10044268
>~85k total
recline....

>> No.10044645

>>10044512
>Do you learn a new language every time you watch a foreign film?
I don't want "a" foreign film every day and wasting hours on it.

>I already know 3 languages, I don't see the point in learning a 4th niche language just for a couple of streams.
Of course you are SEAfag, specifically Malay-Chink. Learning a 4th or 5th language is not the focus here. The focus is to master something that can help you enjoy things more and stop relying on translation which can be misleading or outright wrong sometimes.

>> No.10044648
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>>10044434
their tournament numbers btw

206k views overall

>> No.10044650

>>10044624
just watch the stream

>> No.10044673

>>10044504
The way Holos work is that they favor quality over quantity so they don't really spam tourneys that much. Most of them are kinda rich already so they really don't have to numberfag and instead opt for more fun and varied streaming content.

>> No.10044674

>>10044624
Towa's announcement post? It's like the last one.

>>10044640
Considering the members that is very good.

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>>10044640
97k now

>> No.10044695

>>10044624
>【#ゆるホロチームカート】
It is in the name. Casual holo cart.

>> No.10044726

>>10044492
>exposed as midgets
>20k+
Kek. If they’re midgets then whats the rest of Nijisanji?

>> No.10044752

>>10044726
Gods because Chadzuha can get almost 70k in a Pokemon tourney.

>> No.10044787

>>10044683
>only two people above 10k
The absolute state of viewfunnelingive

>> No.10044792

>>10044726
Ants, if we had to go with the comparison.
IMO, Casual mario kart with 11 members, not a proper full tourney with everyone interested involved, this is honestly fine. As someone else mentioned, with all the stuff that happened during the summer (Coco, then anniversary chain in August), I can see the holomem just wanting to host more casual large-scale group events for fun. I can see Aqua declining because she probs feels she'd want to tryhard too much and ruin the atmosphere or something, I can't read minds afterall.

>> No.10044803

>>10044752
I said Nijisanji, not Kuzuha dumbass. I was gonna put (minus Kuzuha) but I figured anons are smart enough to know what “the rest” means

>> No.10044818

>>10044787
>mid-tiers who dont usually get 10k on solo not getting 10k on collab
WAOW

>> No.10044827

Goodbye for now thread, see you all next thread when you all hopefully stop being retarded and replying to kuzuschizos.

>> No.10044828

>>10044432
Sure, but it's kinda pointless when she factually doesn't do much about it.
Not sure what JP children are into, but I don't think it's anything the likes of GTA, Payday 2, Ghosts and Goblins or various horror games.

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>> No.10044863

>>10044840
based

>> No.10044876

>>10044787
Can you not expose yourself as an ignorant Nijinigger? Those 2 are the only holos who always gets 10k on anything in that collab.

>> No.10044884

>>10044420
The suisei aqua rematch will be next year holo cup 2022

>> No.10044886

today's SEAhours is bad, but not as bad as usual.

>> No.10044916

>>10044886
The current form of OP is doing a pretty good job as a filter, I vote we keep it.

>> No.10044932

>>10044886
Meh, this is nothing compared to the shitstorm two days ago.

>> No.10044931

>>10044828
>but it's kinda pointless when she factually doesn't do much about it.
this is more about getting "green mark" to be pushed by YT algorithm as familly friendly channel.

ps children/teens, better?

>> No.10044940

>>10044876
>Mio
>Watame
>Noel
>Flare
>Fubuki
Cope more. Hololive is nothing without their funneled views.

>> No.10044946

Anyone who replied to obvious numbernigger shitposter seriously will be branded as its accomplice and have its number licence revoked

>> No.10044963

>>10044940
>nijifag talking about funneled views

>> No.10044966

>>10044876
nta but you're exaggerating, the others minus aki and RBC can get 11k+ in their respective buff game.

>> No.10045042

>>10042563
>Kuzuha needs to blow up in the West, but how?
WAVE 4 collabs

>> No.10045065

>>10044940
What are you trying to say? All of the Holos you listed don’t get 10k regularly. Even if it was funneled they beat Nijisanji by SCs so unless all Holochads are rich and all Nijiniggers are ESL like yourself, Hololive has a bigger audience.

>> No.10045103

>>10045065
ALRIGHT HAND OVER YOUR LICENSE, YOU'RE FIRED

>> No.10045114

>>10044966
I was using normal streams to compare. I wouldn’t use Anya’s totsu to say she hits 20k+ on anything

>> No.10045334

>>10045065
They all hit 10k easily from time to time and there's no excuse for none of them to hit it during a tournament. Tournaments should buff views but it doesn't for hololive because they rely too much on view funneling to hit their numbers.

>> No.10045342

>>10044673
That's rich coming from how >>10044434 was organized compared to Niji Mario Cart cup.

>> No.10045403

>>10045334
its not a tournament , its just a collab

>> No.10045441

>>10045403
Your license, hand it over

>> No.10045460

>>10045403
It was the same for: >>10043728
Everyone got their usual viewership or worse in that one.

>> No.10045477

Someone...post graph...graphanon save us

>> No.10045560

>>10044673
>they favor quality over quantity
that's just not true you falseflagger. That tourney was technical mess because it was mostly left to Towa to organize. it was kino for sure but don't throw around "quality"

>> No.10045870

>>10044752
Delusional, please just kill yourself
The rest of Niji are midgets compared to most of Hololive
Only 3 of those nijitrash can actually compete but requires help from the others

>> No.10045937

>>10044787
You do know that top Jp Holos like Pekora, Marine, Subaru, Miko are absent here. Not to mention the event started while Peko is still playing with 28k (she did bleed 6k viewers later tho)
Atleast research a little bit before trtong to start shit, Ignorant Asshole

>> No.10045969

Ya know, I always had dreams of a what if I went to HolostarsEN and how to properly numberfag it. Somewhere I thought it'd be fun if I were to put up a $100 membership where one of the member can participate in a once a week movie watchalong on a movie of their choosing using discord. Then, I realized it'd be a bad idea even if it was a wonderful opportunity to earn money. Other than that, I'd just spam apex, zatsudans and asmr weekly for numbers.

>> No.10046128

>>10044420
anon, were you even watching the collab? They did 6 cups and going by the ingame scoring Suisei won 2 of them and Towa won 4.

>> No.10046190

>>10045870
The Nijis who participated in the Pokemon tourney all hit above their average numbers, many were above 10k. The holos who participated in the MK tournament didn't. Cope more over multi-POV holo tourneys being a failure because they can't get numbers without their view funneling tactics.

>> No.10046205
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Here are the peaks so far plus the comparison with each streamer September 2021 median

>25236 today :: 10211 september median :: suisei (+147%)
>10544 today :: 10367 september median :: rushia (+2%)
>9521 today :: 6608 september median :: fubuki (+44%)
>8649 today :: 4658 september median :: towa (+86%)
>8526 today :: 5483 september median :: watame (+55%)
>7646 today :: 6232 september median :: noel (+23%)
>6880 today :: 3373 september median :: luna (+104%)
>6872 today :: 5611 september median :: lamy (+22%)
>6637 today :: 7676 september median :: mio (-14%)
>5171 today :: 5128 september median :: flare (+1%)
>1985 today :: 1960 september median :: aki (+1%)
>1738 today :: 2238 september median :: roboco (-22%)

Mio and Roboco underperforming their median, all of others overperforming

>> No.10046208

Niji fans need to put the work where their mouth is and start watching streams instead of going here. At least that will improve Niji's viewership for anyone not named Kuzuha

>> No.10046235

>>10045969
There are chuubas who do that outside of hololive, actually. I don't recall if it's cyberlive or one of the other companies that debuted in July but one of the perks they offer is a 1 on 1 discord conversation.

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>>10046190

>> No.10046279

>>10046190
>The Nijis who participated in the Pokemon tourney all hit above their average numbers,
See >>10046205

>> No.10046278

>>10046235
Think it was cyberlive. The teenage manager right? I remembered they had tiers from $100-500 kek

>> No.10046292

>>10046128
I missed half of the tourney like a derp, but clearly I have misplaced my evaluation of Towa's skill level.
It's going to be interesting going into the next New Years MK tourney.

>> No.10046293

>>10046208
Are they even Niji fans? They're more like Holo haters for me

>> No.10046300

>>10046278
Yep, and it was done through streamlabs, not membership.

>> No.10046338

れな姉2300
葉加瀬1500
ンボ1200
ヒス900
女将500
きらめ400

すみれ3100
ひなの2200
ミミ1100
なずな900
きゅぴ400

Niji females lost to VSPO...

>> No.10046342

>>10046128
Suisei won 5 of the six cups actually. Part of it is her team but she also won four times in a row in the final round

>> No.10046390

>>10046278
I respect the the grind to suck all those nerds dry

>> No.10046425

>>10046279
I mean, Suisei gets the same amount playing Tetris and more than that singing, so it's not like it's an unusual number for her. Rushia and Flare are usually above 15k for Minecraft, Mio gets 10k+ playing games, etc. "Median" is not going to show that, but they can get higher peaks than they did today without much effort.

>> No.10046441
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>TOP STREAMS OF THE DAY SO FAR
Missing:
>Sana council at 18.4k
>Sana unarchived karaoke at 10.6k

>> No.10046449

>>10046390
Hey, make hay while the sun shines and all that. Who knows how long this will last and if they are willing to pay that much then why not?

>> No.10046476

>>10046441
Chartanon if you're here we could really use that piyo replacement you were working on.

>> No.10046477

>>10046425
>"Median" is not going to show that, but they can get higher peaks than they did today without much effort.
That is correct and the "illegal view funelling" anon is also correct that it is harder for Holos to get their best numbers in a 12 POV collab than in a single POV stream in their regular slot playing their signature game / variety.

It just doesn't mean what he thinks it means.

>> No.10046523

>>10046476
kek, still working on it. For the time being live-ranking will have to do but I am back on a self imposed deadline of having at least the numbers scraping part of it ready for the start of October

>> No.10046581

>>10046441
Kenmochi never fails to impress me. Both he and Kuzuha are the living proof that "clickbait title", "thumbnail game", tags, description and every meta trick to attract viewership are not necessary if the streamer is entertaining enough to carry the audience by himself.

>> No.10046704

>>10046581
I'd say Kenmochi's shitty yet funny thumbnail have some kind of baity effect itself, but yeah he's popular because he's entertaining enough to carry the audience

>> No.10046779

Genuine question, how do you see membership vods in a more organized way like a vodlist along with view numbers and superchat numbers?
My oshi only announce mengen in community posts and it's a pain in the ass to search the archives

>> No.10046845

>>10046342
Am I really going to have to numberfag a mariokart collab?
1st cup: Solo. Towa 44 points. Suisei 42 points.
2nd cup: 6 man teams. Sui Team wins. Individually Towa 45 points, Suisei 40 points.
3rd cup: 6 man teams. Towa Team wins. Individually Suisei 55 points, Towa 44 points.
4th cup: 3 man teams. Sui Team wins. Individually Towa 52 points, Suisei 43 points.
5th cup: 3 man teams. Sui Team wins. Individually Towa 46 points, Suisei 34 points.
6th cup: 3 man teams. Sui Team wins. Individually Suisei 60 points, Towa 39 points.
By neither individual or team results did Suisei win 5 cups.

>> No.10046892

>>10046845
Put it on hlg honestly

>> No.10046916

>>10046779
Some chuubas have a "mengen" playlist

>> No.10046969
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>> No.10046984

>>10046477
It means as a whole Nijisanji has a much bigger fanbase than hololive which relies on box pushing and view funneling a limited amount of fans to make it look like they have big numbers. That's the advantage of not resorting to forced bubble growth.

>> No.10047027

>>10046969
Ayyyy finally. Anyone got the hour tally on this?
It probably didn't beat Kuzuha's King but Reflect has more stream sources anyway. and it is way past 10 mil if you combine all the views.

>> No.10047039

>>10046845
WTF you are as tryhard as Suisei. Btw how to even git gud at mario kart which is an RNG fest.

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>>10046984
>view funneling a limited amount of fans to make it look like they have big numbers
This will never fail to make me laugh

>> No.10047073

>>10047039
>you are as tryhard as Suisei
As expected in the numbers thread.

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>>10046845
A picture for those who need it. Towa won more cups, Suisei edged her out in points. Simple stuff.
Guy says "races" here, but its rounds

>> No.10047087

>>10046984
i keep hearing about you but somehow never manages to be here when you appear

>> No.10047177

>>10047027
>Anyone got the hour tally on this?
91 days, dno about exact hours.

>> No.10047281
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10047281

>Two very good numbers here

1) Ibrahim pretty much dunking on the MinecraftJP collab by pulling 20k on his own on Niji regular server
2 )Korone getting 19k playing some kusoge

>> No.10047303

>>10047281
that kusoge is pretty popular with EOPs right? there's a dunkey video for it.

>> No.10047384
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Ghost reached 8M. Arguably the great catalyst for her recent incline.

>> No.10047431

>>10047027
including the topic its at 12.3m

>> No.10047432

>>10047384
And, incidentally, the reason I even numberfag. It all started because I thought "hi honey" was the reason for her incline and FELL FUCKING FLAT ON MY FACE because people that have Suisei as their oshi got me to actually run the numbrs

>> No.10047453

>>10047384
Is Ghost considered the quintessential Suisei song now? I know it used to be NCP.

>> No.10047483

>>10046338
You've lost one vspo member 5chmatomedicksuckertard-chama

>> No.10047492
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>100 million SUBS : 14k viewers

>dead subs?
dead subs.

>> No.10047512

>>10046441
how did Pekora manage to get more viewers on her second episode of gta? its usually the contrary for anyone

>> No.10047519

>>10047453
GHOST is this year's NCP

>> No.10047599

>>10047453
Honestly for me, Tenkyuu, NCP and GHOST are the trinity of Suisei's song. Other Suisei songs are good but feel different compared to those three

>> No.10047600

>>10047519
I agree with this anon. None of her other songs really feel as good as Ghost did.
I am happy that Ghost is getting a shit ton of views because I never quite had NCP as my favorite Suisei song. Ghost for me is pretty on par with Tenkyuu.

>> No.10047632

>>10047492
Damn miko manage to get 15k playing that shitty ass game.

>> No.10047640

>>10047599
I mean, personally I think 3時12分 is far better than anything else Suisei has released, but I guess that doesn't really count.

>> No.10047663

>>10047599
If you go by the "song of the year" comet is also pretty quintessential as her first original song

>> No.10047666

>>10047492
>second highest sub in the world
>14k viewers
Thoughts?

>> No.10047684

>>10047663
Oh yeah I forgot Comet too

>> No.10047710

>>10047512
Weekend buff

>> No.10047724
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>>10047453
I don't know about "quintessential" but that song plus that live cemented Suisei as a 25k+ singing streamer
>pic related
Red line is the "before Ghost" and "after Ghost", except for one stream before the red line, that was the immediately after Ghost

>> No.10047780

I like Suisei's cover for Ranbu no Melody more than the other songs, but judging from the numbers people think otherwise.

>> No.10047783

>>10047710
yesterday was also weekend

>> No.10047839

>>10047780
Speaking of Suisei covers, do you think Getcha will ever overtake Saga Jihen, or will it run out of steam?

>> No.10047891

>>10047453
Yes,
(late) 2019 - Tenkyuu
2020 - NCP
2021 - Ghost
And it doesn't look like any other will be replacing it too soon. 3:12 is pretty different from her usual stuff for instance.
It's good to not rely on a single song for too long.
For covers, it's more complicated though.

>> No.10047896

>>10047839
I like Saga Jihen better, so personally think it would stay at the top.

>> No.10047922

>>10047891
3:12's major debuff is being on a channel with 15k subscribers, not 'being different'.

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10047930

>>10047492
>>10047666

>> No.10047966

>>10047724
That incline every stream up until the album announcement was really insane.
(If you disconsider the stream right after Coco's graduation)

>> No.10047983
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10047983

>Mel higher than Matsuri

>> No.10048024

Why is Polka stupid?

She has the whole bakatare group as a collab, but her thumbnail and title doesn't reflect that. I got in saying "Why is Polka playing phasmo alone only, why doesn't she play with matsuri?" Then she hit me with a collab.

>> No.10048036

https://twitter.com/SusanWojcicki/status/1436393835282661378
https://twitter.com/rkyncl/status/1436496747069542408
How many subscribers should Gura achieve to get shoutouts from them?

>> No.10048098

>>10047930
>~ 1% of the subs
Deadsubs alright, just like Kizuna Ai.

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10048121

>>10047839
>>10047896
I think Saga Jihem is one of the most well executed Covers by any Holo and it shows. It greatly outmuscle the official reelase by the anime company, although they only released (as far as I could search) the short version on Youtube

More than that, by counting on gen 3 as her backing vocal it shows how far away in vocal prowess Suisei is from all of the other Holos (maybe except Sora and AZKi, big maybe too)

>> No.10048133
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>>10048024
Was wondering what was up with that too, but some people just do that.
5 player collab btw

>> No.10048138

>>10048036
Hopefully infinite. I can take Xbox and Discord shilling vtubers, Youtube is too close and too fucking incompetent with their system that it is just gonna be annoying.

>> No.10048172

Anyway what the hell happen to the new nijisanji members? Dead already?

>> No.10048182

>>10048036
kek that second guy just congratulated some pajeet for 1 million subs, in other words gura never ever.

>> No.10048190

>>10048024
Isn't it a last minute thing? Fubuki and Watame came from the Mario Kart stream right?

>> No.10048208

>>10048172
>Dead already?
Actually some of them are making a killing both in SC and viewership, if compared to intra company talent.
A very well executed debut for their new JP gen and it upped the stakes for Hololive Gen 6

>> No.10048211

>>10048036
>if Gura makes a tweet about it

>> No.10048216

>>10047783
Sunday is a bigger buff

>> No.10048231

>>10048121
What about Pekora's Discommunication Alien?

>> No.10048267
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10048267

HoloJP lite

>> No.10048281

>>10048208
yeah two of them can be sc powerhouses and they get shilled hard by the others. Hololive unfortunately can't do that because of the collab ban.

>> No.10048286
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10048286

>>10048036
>https://twitter.com/SusanWojcicki/status/1436393835282661378
Two things

1) It's an imageboard, post images for Haachama's sake!
2) Susan is a retard but she's right here. Hikakin single handedly bridged the Japanese "variety show" audience and the Youtube audience and may have single handedly cast NicoNico into irrelevance by carrying a huge Japanese audience to Youtube.

>> No.10048302

>>10048267
It's been weird watching Nose's rise from being Towa and Sio's 2view friend to coming close to scraping 10k views at times for APEX streams.

>> No.10048315

>>10048172
WDYM?
Leos is high tier Niji, but with a random schedule and game selection, so he can get 10k, 15k, or 3k per stream.
Axia and Lauren set themselves in mid malejisanji viewer numbers ~5k, with really good SC numbers.
Olliver is 50% NijiEN at this point and has similar 1-4k viewer numbers.
Lain is the most inconsistent, anywhere from 900 to 5.5k

>> No.10048331

>>10048267
>HoloJP lite
Yeah, that surely puts pressure on my plans to make a Piyo replacement because I would HATE to lose their numbers in the myst of "not being on other numberfag sites"

Does live.ranking has a "suggestion box" like Piyo?

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>https://youtu.be/aR-ftbbe3nY
The numbers on this VSpo. Who said they weren't third? 774 can't get this.

>> No.10048352

>>10048281
What does a collab ban have to do with anything you said?

>> No.10048366

>>10048024
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1439583914754859023
https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1439584726893748230
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1439587721182208006

Seems kind of sudden, probably a 'if they can make it then great' kind of deal especially since Fubuki didn't tweet about it earlier. Also talking about this group, Fubuki tweeted they're doing a TRPG together.
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1439577970167877633

>> No.10048385

>>10048346
>Who said they weren't third? 774 can't get this.
Likely someone measuring company vs. company overall, not just the heaviest hitter or the debutants.
It's like pitting just Selen from NijiEN or Bora Nun from NijiKR against a whole company mean / median. It doesn't work that way.

That's why I usually measure incline and recline by the lowest points in the chart, not the highest

>> No.10048390

>>10048315
He means nobody brings them up anymore because they were only ever brought up by numberniggers and now that they have shiner bait to go after they've practically vanished from the face of the number thread

>> No.10048391

>>10048352
they collabed with their senpais every week? on the nji official channel immediately after debut. Hololive have the collab ban. Understand?

>> No.10048393

>>10048346
It is her 2nd stream, though, really good numbers for a 2nd stream, 40% retention is huge.
Just passed 8k and it's 0noly 20 min in.

>> No.10048396

>>10047983
Good. Mel deserves it, and Matsuri deserves it.
If you actively sabotage your numbers and basically say "Fuck you" to your core audience, you don't deserve them.
>>10048211
So never then.

>> No.10048423

>>10048385
>That's why I usually measure incline and recline by the lowest points in the chart, not the highest
In that case, look at 80% of 774. Only Haneru, Patra and Met can pull numbers.

>> No.10048424

>>10047983
MASAKA!

>> No.10048430

>>10048390
Guess we also don't talk about SC ranking nearly as much anymore, that's where Lauren was brought up a lot.

>> No.10048439

>>10048391
What does that have to do with them being SC powerhouses?

>> No.10048452

>>10047983
good

>> No.10048455

>>10048423
The thing is, you also have to look at the numbers the lowest performers on VSPO

>> No.10048476

>>10048315
High tier don't get 3k bro.....

>> No.10048489

>>10048455
Yes, and they beat the worst Animare girls

>> No.10048501

>>10048476
High tier Nijis (minus Kuzuha) do.

>> No.10048508

>>10048476
That's matsuri level....

>> No.10048521

>>10048024
>>10048366
Polka was going to play alone but she mentioned that she's streaming during their TRPG meeting so bakatare joined last minute.
sauce: Polka's mouth

>> No.10048530

>>10048439
that's a different statement anonchama, the red guy and the glasses guy got massive amount of SC evidenced by playboard. It's not necessarily because of collabing, but they're still pretty succesful.

>> No.10048551

>>10047666
Youtubers are reclining, people are going back to work, no one us watching streamers all day anymore. The bubble is bursting

>> No.10048572 [DELETED] 

>>10048396
>>10047983
Ok, enough of this falseflagging.
What's actually happening in the stream is that Matsuri's become the veteran and she pushed Mel to do the dangerous research a few times.
Mel's the more interesting perspective and the fresher reaction so more people sit there.
When the roles are versed and Mel's in the car, people move to Matsuri's perspective.
Otherwise they're numbers are about even when they're doing the same thing.

>> No.10048589
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10048589

WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD FIGHT TO THE DEATH?!

>The GOD of Hololive, "ore ga hololive da", one of the largest name recognized Hololivers armed with 1M+ subs and a record of collabs in brand and off brand
>one meek vampy girl trying to make a living in her second stream in the whole month

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE, ANGER, BAFFLE AND INSULT YOU AND TURN YOUR BLOOD INTO ACEROLA JUICE!

>> No.10048603

>>10048098
Every Youtuber will have dead subs, the more popular you are the more dead sub you have. What matters is how many live subs he got and he's still pulling million VOD views with those CCV what's your point here?

>> No.10048649

>>10048530
Not him, but why does it matter in that context then?

>> No.10048662

>>10048530
Doesn't seem like it has anything to do with early collabs at all when half of them are merely mid-tier as per >>10048315 and most of the ones from last year's waves which also didn't have a collab ban are almost dead.

>> No.10048686

>>10048455
The lowest performers on VSPO still average higher than the lowest or even average tier in 774, it's just the top that's higher.

>> No.10048732

>>10048603
Every Youtuber has dead subs but what matters is the percentage of dead subs. For example Kizuna Ai has more dead subs than Gura in terms of ratio.

>> No.10048771

>>10048396
>>10047983
>>10048589
Ok, enough of this falseflagging.
What's actually happening in the stream is that Matsuri's become the veteran in Phasmaphobia and she pushed Mel to do the dangerous things a few times.
Mel's the more interesting and fresher perspective and so more people sit there.
When the roles are reversed and Matsuri's in the house, Mel in the van, people move to Matsuri's perspective.
Otherwise their numbers are about even when they're doing the same thing.

>> No.10048830

How does Kuzuha have so many members if he never does membership streams?

>> No.10048835

>>10048732
>the percentage of dead subs
uh, What's that metric use for? Shitposting?

>> No.10048849
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10048849

Here is one day in the life of Edengumi (which happens to be today)

Those Edengumi numbers that could easily be approx Gen4 or Gen5 from Hololive except, of course, for the heaviest hitters of these gens, or the special day peaks.

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Was this unannounced?
Seems pretty low for a rare Kanata singing stream, even if it's an unusually packed late night slot.
Aizawa Ema, new VSPO has 9,298 reading marshmallows, Polka has 10,373 for the Bakatare collab.

>> No.10048890

>>10048346
Haneru can get this and more during some big collabs and so as Patra when doing ASMR.

>> No.10048898

>>10048830
Because it is a good way to support your oshi. People don't do membership for the membership perks, they do it because they want to pay for their oshi hard work someway and membership is the easiest, even easier than to superchat during streams

>>10048771
>Ok, enough of this falseflagging.
kek, don't take it personally anon. Nobody is really saying Matsuri is underperforming Mel, it's all regular thread banter.

>> No.10048919

>>10048835
>numbers are for shitposting
well...

>> No.10048920

>>10048835
Nijiniggers like to use this shit metric because Hololive has more subs. I hope its just bait but the amount of these kinds of comments are quite concerning.

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>>10048890
This isn't a collab though

>> No.10048976

>>10048849
They look like they're all Polka tier.

>> No.10048980

>>10048924
The statement was "774 can't get this"

>> No.10049004

>>10048872
Tamaki also at 10.3k
Fuwa Minato at 7.7k
Nose at 7k
Yorumu Rena at 6.7k
at 23:30 JST.

>> No.10049005

>>10048872
7 minutes in singing stream is like what one song? give it time unless you're just shitposting

>> No.10049029

>>10048920
I am not even a nijinigger. Just pointing out that it is something we can measure. I used to measure how organic it was for the growth of a streamer, and it seems like Pekora's growth is organic. Aqua, while having fewers subs, also have the same proportion of views (for both VODs and liveviewers) so hers is also organic. Both are around 20 to 30% of their subs.

>> No.10049052

>>10049005
Oh yeah, ignore that, YT just doesn't update the time number anymore, this was taken 30 minutes in.

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>>10048872
Considering it's still inclining it is getting the regular numbers for her singing. It will likely incline to around 10k as the time passes and other girls end their streams

>> No.10049161

>>10049054
I've been meaning to get a general Utau average for big singers, but some of them stream singing so rarely they might be useless numbers. (not just talking about Ayame)
is Kanata 4th on CCV, after Suisei, Marine, Miko?
Think she's just a bit above Toko, Flare and Rushia...ignoring Ayame and Mito who sing ocne every 3-6 months.

>> No.10049199

>>10048849
so this is what happen when you debut a female on male dominant wave, at least she get good sc right?

>> No.10049260

>>10048849
Why did the red guy suddenly peak at 6PM?

>> No.10049263
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>ONGOING TOP STREAMS
YAAAAY! live-ranking is picking up VSPO new girl already!

Also: APEX server is fixed?

>> No.10049292

>>10049263
It's Valorant

>> No.10049301

>>10049263
I thought apex servers are still down?

>> No.10049305

>>10048924
lol I bet you`re the same ass who liked to post about nijis or holos on their debut buff "mogging" X top vtuber

>> No.10049332

>>10049292
Oh and the title of his stream is "no plan" so it might be one of those where he's going to jump between different games

>> No.10049333

>>10049301
See >>10049292, just checked his stream, it's Valorant

>> No.10049413

>>10048872
Its a combination of the stream being announced late, being a late stream, being in a different timeslot than her usual one and there being 2 collabs which will naturally attract more people. Seems like it will stabilize at 10k + soon enough even with that though.

>> No.10049423

>>10049263
>>10048872
She jumped and passed 10k while singing Fansa

>> No.10049487

>>10049423
Yokatta! I was dying to have her in the top ranking!

>> No.10049597

>>10049487
It was for long enough that it probably got registered over 10k too.
Aizawa Ema is also really close, skipping back and forth from 9.830 to 9.970, but i don't think she'll get to 10k in time, or for long enough.

>> No.10049620

>>10049199
even her sc is in decline recently, oliver gets higher sc than her

>> No.10049686

>>10049620
Oliver gets more than Leos too

>> No.10049696

>>10049332
【no】pl【an】

>> No.10049714

>>10049292
Ark in few minutes

>> No.10049806

>>10049597
>skipping back and forth from 9.830 to 9.970
I blame it on youtube, getting close to 10k triggers the "CCV check" bot and the respective cull

>> No.10049865

>>10049714
That might bring big numbers. Too bad that that won't be reflected anywhere because the stream started too late.

>> No.10049895
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10049895

Good numbers but
>FOR FUCK SAKE POLKA, IF YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO DO IT GET YOUR FUCKING FANS TO MAKE YOUR THUMBS FOR YOU!
I mean, it's a Bakatare plus Polka (which got adopted) collab, please be a good host and honor them with a proper thumb

>> No.10049933

>>10049865
>Too bad that that won't be reflected anywhere because the stream started too late.
kek, it's the bane of live-ranking. He could get 70k now and it wouldn't feature in the daily ranking
>except I would add it anyway

>> No.10049935

>>10049895
She could at least change the title

>> No.10049967

>>10049895
The official name is Bakatare Circus iirc, a Quartet of hags just playing around.

>> No.10049999

>>10049895
It wasn't planned to be a collab until the very last second.

>> No.10050025

>>10049933
live-ranking still updates the number even if it goes past midnight. It jsut wont duplicate add them on the new day

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>>10049686
Oh wow, that's true
Olliver averaging 700$ per stream with his lower audience, he's doing really well for himself, even compared to most of Nijisanji.
Leos is around 4-500$ for recent streams
Lain - 200$
Even Lauren is at 550$ average... but then again he had 16 streams in 1 week and made 8,300$
Azia 888$ average for 10 streams in 1 week too.

>> No.10050049

>>10049686
must be the sex voice
sasuga mansanji

>> No.10050069

>>10049714
>>10049865
he's not playing ark anymore to avoid drama, viewers still going up though

>> No.10050073

>>10049620
She has the highest subs out of them all.

>> No.10050186

>>10049714
26k viewers, 33k votes,
Ark at 51% but doesn't seem like he'll actually play it

>> No.10050228

>>10050043
My math is bad cause i winged it, Oliver had 896$ per stream, highest average of all Eden-gumi recently.

>> No.10050337

>>10050049
Can't blame them. Lain generic jap cute voice is so jarring compared to her wild sexy design. Should've given her deep voiced nee-san soul instead, and maybe she can get Nui's number if her personality can be as interesting as her design.

>> No.10050400

>>10050049
Yep that's why Belmond is their top member right after Kuzuha

>> No.10051413

>>10050069
Just confirmed that he will return after all, just not this stream.

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>> No.10052613

>>10051453
It reached 62k votes but only 20k~ ccv. I guess a lot of people must've just voted and left.

>> No.10052667

>>10052613
poll bots is quite common in japan

>> No.10052716

>>10052667
>poll bots is quite common in japan
kek, that's not even a thing. You genuinely needs one account per vote.

>> No.10052732

>>10051453
My japanse is a littler rusty, is that last option really Spore?

>> No.10052866

>>10052732
splatoon

>> No.10052947

>>10052866
Ah, thanks

>> No.10053273

Next thread's pic should be another retard meme then the usual list >>10041332 would be accompanied with SC/Top CCV chart. Sounds good?

>> No.10053305

>>10053273
yh

>> No.10053322

>>10053273
I vote this one>>10044840

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>TODAY'S FINAL TALLY
Here it goes
>32,320: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,040: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,140: Suisei (Hololive)
>22,886: Kenmochi (Nijisanji)
>20,318: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>20,223: Korone (Hololive)
>18,629: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,429: Sana (Hololive)
>17,476: IRyS (Hololive)
>16,939: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,640: Miko (Hololive)
>15,296: Polka (Hololive)
>13,104: Shibuya Hal (indie)
>12,752: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,634: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,616: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,677: Sana (Hololive)
>10,459: Rushia (Hololive)
>10,457: Himawari Honma (Nijisanji)
>10,252: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,227: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,219: Aizawa Ema (VSPO)
>10,178: ars almal (Nijisanji)

>> No.10053903

>>10041471
Damn I am sold
Guess I am a 12fag now

>> No.10053967

>>10053903
>no preferring the sacred 7
Might as well tell your mom you're gay or somethign!

>> No.10054146

>>10048302
she was doing good for a while but the shuffle match after v saikyou 2 with kuzuha made her a regular 5k plus streamer.
https://streamable.com/4bzbpw

>> No.10054256

VSPO vs 774inc, who will win battle for 3rd place? Who will get more international attention?

>> No.10054379

is kuzuha really going into a 2nd valorant spam arc should i get the noose and chair ready

>> No.10054384

>>10054256
Vshojo

>> No.10054394

>>10054256
>VSPO vs 774inc, who will win battle for 3rd place?
VSPO
>Who will get more international attention?
VSPO

>> No.10054428

>>10054384
Vshojo kneels to VSPO

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