/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What are some examples of chuubas being rich?

People here talk often about how these girls are filthy rich from all the SCs, membershios, sponsoreships and all but I have hardly seen any evidence of that being the case. Most of them just seem to be renting apartments, even with actual roommates or are living with their parents still.

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>>10410190
Coco's $9000 bed

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...come to think of it, most of the ones I could mention are independently affluent or well-situated.
Pomu Rainpuff for example pulls really good numbers and enjoys lavishly spending on things but that cash seems to be mostly coming from her day job.

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>>10410224
That still seems fairly modest to me considering how much she especially has made.

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>>10410190
Kiara said she could apply for a Japan Visa if she wanted to. Simply because of the amount of money she has.

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>>10410190
>Most of them just seem to be renting apartments, even with actual roommates or are living with their parents still.
Because there isn't much incentive to pay some big house just for yourself, like Pekora is just content having her room and her parents cooking and cleaning for her while she does what she likes. Not sure why a shut in would care about that stuff honestly it's just a bother.
It's pretty common in many countries for kids to stay at their parent's home for a while and it's not seen as an issue or sign of poverty.

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>>10410190
Moving out from your parents is no longer an obligation, so people don't do it.
As a non-american, I never did quite understand the "having to move out" thing unless that is only in media.

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>>10410190
Most of them just save up for later, vtubing is short lived, even getting a fuckton of money there is no reason to waste it on ridiculous things like buying a house or whatever. It's also a culture thing, owning a house that important in many countries but it's heavily valued as a sign of success in America.

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>>10410190
Money is useless to NEETs
They only need strong PC and comfortable room

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>>10410190
>t. American
no reason to waste your money, reminds me of ecelbs/youtubers who suddendly got rich and thought the first thing they had to do was buying some useless luxury car to show off.

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>>10410190
asmr chuubas that have a kuu100

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>>10410621
It's tied to the entire breaking up of the extended family into the nuclear family in part due to the existence of suburbia where the endless housing boom / creep would always create plenty of housing at a decent cost.
Which was sorta true in the 50s if you were in a place where the sprawl could happen and were white but a bunch of it is propaganda to with the goal to flex the wealth and prosperity of America over the Soviets. Push the propaganda enough and it becomes an expected social response. Especially in the era where TV is just starting to happen.

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>>10410575
>>10410621
>>10410667
I'm not American but considering how much these chuubas supposedly earn buying real estate doesn't seem like a big stretch to me, even if just as an investment.

Them still living in modest surroundings was just one example of thei relatively normal lifestyles.

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>>10410190
I don't see how it benefits them bragging about how much money they got and what they buy off stream

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>>10410190
I heard rushia likes to buy expensive bags or some shit, I don't know

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>>10410738
It probably wouldn't but I feel like we would see more of their wealthy lifestyle leaking out if they really were as rich as some people on here claim. People get used to being wealthy and loose touch.

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>>10410190
Reine is filthy rich, but I think you are looking for chuubas that got rich off of chuubing, whereas Reine is a chuuba because she is rich.

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>>10410822
wealthy heiress?

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>>10410728
Maybe they have that but I meant there is no point living in it, it's just money in another form, thus you won't hear about it from them.

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>>10410728
I wouldn't really expect them to be Fuck You rich, like conventional celebrities would be. I'd think of them as well off though.
That said, Noel seems to be renting 3 units (apartments or whatever) for various purposes and a bunch of them can feed their gacha addiction.
Any other material sign of wealth, like houses or cars, wouldn't really be something you would hear. Japanese people don't buy cars much after all, and you won't know the exact state of their housing because they aren't rl streamers.

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It's honestly pathetic how Ina still lives with her parents despite being stupidly rich, simply because she's a slob who can't take care of herself and needs mommy to cook for her

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>>10410811
That's a cultural thing. Japanese is anything but individualistic. They're rich but for most not so rich they can just quit and life of it for life. Plus most are just happy with a computer and internet.

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>>10410950
isnt that a lot of vtubers though? I atleast got the feeling of that

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>>10410950
Very common for koreans tho, or italians, or spaniards, or many many other cultures.

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>>10410897
I imagined successfull youtuber rich. But I would have thought something along the lines of them mentioning jewlery, clothes, vacations or gifts they buy for loved ones.

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>>10410811
I've seen some clips that hint at their wealthy lifestyle but I don't think they can truly appreciate it with Vtubing taking up most of their time

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>>10410975
I can't think of anyone else besides some Jap hikkis like Pekora

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>>10410982
>jwelery, clothes
kek
most don't care about that shit at all, such a stereotypical expectation

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>>10410621
Americans hate their families

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>>10411033
>most don't care about that shit at all
do you mean most women?
I'd disagree, especially when it comes to Japanese women.

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>>10410855
Yeah, but you wouldn't really notice aside from her niche hobbies and probably near perfect english while living in Indonesia

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>>10411065
Not the ones who are into things like vtubers

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>>10410190
They aren't. To begin with they only earn one third of all the SCs, since the rest goes to YT and to Hololive. Then afterwards they'll have to pay taxes... They make way more money than your average neet, but they're not rich or anything.

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Marine paid for Unison herself. The girls financed Umisea themselves. Animation, hiring a quality composer etc etc is fucking expensive

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>>10411108
I don't know. I'm a pretty nerdy loser and even I started buying better clothes and such once I made more money than I could really use.

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>>10411136
>The girls financed Umisea themselves
Really? I assumed Cover funded for it since they were so adamant in making Umisea a thing

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>>10410950
living with your parent is considered normal in a lot of cultures you dumb mutt

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>>10411134
donation is like 5% of a typical streamer income. For a vtuber, let's say it's 20% at best

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>>10411177
I'm European you faggot manchild.

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>>10410982
The most popular vtubers are hikkis that love streaming, they don’t care about spending money on shit that doesn’t interest them.

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>>10411177
it really shouldnt be though

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>>10411283
Not they guy you've been talking to but living with you parents is pretty nice if you don't rely on them to survive. I like my parents.

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>>10411222
Do they get to keep the ad money or do they have to give HL a cut for that too?

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>>10411134
Anon from a low estimate Watame made $700,000 (before cuts) from her birthday merch, which she used to find her original songs. The popular Hololive girls/ Nijisanji livers are making ridiculous amounts of money.

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>>10410190
Most are pretty rich, not all to a point of being set for live, but still. You don't hear much about it because
- Most a hikkis and a big house would just be an annoyance on top of having to do the chores
- They're also not the type to value exterior signs of wealth
- Japaneses in general are not so individualistic anyway, flaunting your wealth is much more an American thing, showing off would be heavily looked down for them
- It's normal in many countries to stay at your parent house for a while
- Vtubing is short lived, they most likely save off

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>>10411395
>before cuts
So she made 230k or so, before taxes. As I said, it's really good money, but it's not something insane.

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>>10411482
this is merch dude, YT doesn't make a cut

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Why would they talk about their spending habits like jewelry wise, clothing etc? They're vtubers not lifestyle vloggers. Nobody cares about Ina buying Versace or whatever if she did. No point in mentioning it

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>>10411521
Oh, sure, my bad. But HL and whatever company makes the merch do. And of course, the government. It's 700k income, not profits.

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>>10410190
Kiara travels and pays for her friend's accommodation. 800$ anime figurine, commissions for channel aesthetics and paying artists to write songs for her. She now moved to big apartment, which as she said has at least 2 rooms. From what she was telling about her surroundings renting apartment in a new building would cost her about 600EU/month at least + electricity, internet, and other stuff.
She still eats shit though, except now it's being inflated with "organic" and "eco" labels.

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>>10411482
Watame funded it herself so the only cuts are from what other companies take for their contributions in logistics/distribution/etc. It's been said many times that merch is what really makes money for them.

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>>10411232
It was normal in europe too before the continent became burgerized

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>>10411176
unit stuff is from Covers pocket

Unison animation was paid by Marine, but music was from Cover as milestone gift
Since Cover owns everything that gets put on the channel, there's an obvious threshold on how much talents are ready to invest into the content.

ofc, ad revenue recuperates part of the cost

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>>10411656
And taxes too yeah, but like Niji they do also have accountants that help maneuver around the system to give them (and Cover) the most profits.

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>>10411657
It still is. On the East and south. We only move out when we want more privacy. Other than than I just cover electricity and half of the apartment bills. More money stays in the family, as a result of which we can afford more things. I think Ina still lives with her parents too, even after becoming a Vtuber.

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>>10410445
Japan doesn't over gold visas. I doubt she has enough money and qualifications for the investor ones.
I know because I checked.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would streamers who make Hundreds of thousands in donations flaunt their wealth? Poor girl living in squalor with a potato pc gets extra saviour bucks. Superchats are a significant source of income but I doubt it’s even a majority. Memberships, premium, ad revenue, and merch are the main income metrics for YouTubers. This isn’t a secret many, many streamers have discussed the breakdown at length. Mori made a million in SC but has likely made 2-3 Tim’s that in total.

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>>10410811
Subaru went to hawaii last year, using SC money (according to her)

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>>10410190
The best example I can think of is Noel who rents three apartments in Tokyo and has multiple KU100s and other audio devices. Choco I think buys luxury brands, and so does Rushia. Coco's infamous bed too. Can't forget the gacha whales. Some chuubas have talked about going on vacation before the lockdowns started. But I think most serious chuubas put money towards their own career, shelling out for better equipment, moving to bigger apartments in ideal locations, producing music and video, etc.

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>>10411617
are you fucking seriously calling renting a 2 room apartment, for someone who makes as much money as kiara does, an example of being rich

lmfao

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Disguise Toast, who was a 10k average twitch streamer, made about 20k a month with ads, donation and sub after Twitch cut.
If we could sponsor and merch then someone like Pekora could easily makes about 70k a month, Cover takes 50% so she is left with 35k a month

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The real question is why do none of them have actually portable streaming setups? Every single time a chuuba travels it immediately falls apart into bullshit

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>>10412411
Pekora makes way more than that I imagine, merch and sponsors make them a lot of money. Her SCs and memberships alone are probably more than 100k a month before cuts.

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Most of them are neets. Having a beast PC and unlimited supply of food delivery is all they need

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>>10410759
>>10412137
Rushia's notoriously cheap. Unless some sudden change happened within the past few months, I haven't been able to keep up with her small talk during superchat readings. But she typically doesn't spend money on expensive things and self described herself as cheap. She's still using a same fucking laptop for several years way past its life-span because she thinks its a waste to throw away.

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>>10411906
Apparently it was a once in a lifetime dream trip for her family.
Plane tickets alone are around $3000 for 3 people.

>>10412137
I think they would be wise to invest money in view of their eventual retirements. I don't think vtubers get a pension.

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>>10410190
I'm just poor, but Korone describing buying the Sonic watch merch (which cost over $500) casually as just something she ordered like it was no big deal made me feel slightly jealous. Fuck being a college student.

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>>10412643
Japan has a mandatory national pension system that's dependent on how much money you put into it which is based into your income, it's why a lot of Japanese are so gungho about spending money on gacha and luxuries since they have a social safety net when they get old.

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>>10410190
Ina is out here driving her lamborghini mustang in downtown vancouver every single day

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>>10412462
Ame streamed while she was in a hotel during her house hunting arc. It worked pretty well.

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>>10412582
my knowledge is ancient so I think you're the correct one here because I heard of this more than 6 months ago

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>>10412276
I am saying the rent and other expenses are not cheap. I don't know which part of the world you are that renting 2 room apartment in a new building would be considered cheap.

We also don't know how much bitcoin she has.

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>>10412582
Back in new year though she showed off expensive nail polish, got to see her cute thumb.
Perhaps make up/hair is the exception.

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>I am saying the rent and other expenses are not cheap. I don't know which part of the world you are that renting 2 room apartment in a new building would be considered cheap.
>We also don't know how much bitcoin she has.

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>>10413182
take your meds wojakposter

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>>10410190
Reine's family can make people disappear.

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>>10413229
>take your meds wojakposter

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>>10410319
My bed - frame, bedspring, mattress - cost like $800. Been using it for years now.

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>>10410318
She quit her day job some time ago.

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>>10413180
Oh yeah she spends on nails and hair, I agree with that. With everything else she's rather cheap. I mean I guess she also uses uber eats and buys conbini food extremely often but I'm not sure how much that counts as being rich.

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>>10413378
>She quit her day job some time ago.
No, she didn't.
Or, rather, she went back in after her operation.
She is presently working on going part time.

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>>10412462
Moons managed to stream from her fucking car
>>10413631
...oh. Well that's what I get for being a clipfaggot.

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>>10413182
>>10413270

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>>10410190
SCs, sponsorships, memberships, merch, and ads are the primary income streams for a chuuba.

Popular chuubas can make $1-2k in supers per stream. Often they will have a few streams over $5 or even $10k. If they stream 200-300 times per year this is easily between $200-500k per year alone. Gura apparently has over $750k just from supers, Mori crossed $1M and Pekora is over $1.8M.

Sponsorships are vague but they can be paid by hours played or by views. Depending on the sponsor, these can be very lucrative contracts in the multiple thousands of dollars, sometimes tens of thousands. It also matters how many people are watching because that directly affects game sales. 100k views might create 500-1k new sales and so if a streamer plays that game 5 times and reaches a total of about 1M views, the game dev can expect 5k-10k sales minimum. If the dev profits $10 per sale, they can easily afford to give this streamer $30-50k, but that is probably more than usual. If the streamer gets only one sponsorship per month at $15k each, that's $180k per year.

Membership numbers are publicly available on numbers sites, but it's not known how many members buy T2 and T3. I can't find the numbers right now but it's over 2k members for many. I think the bigger names have over 10k. If the average member pays $6 monthly that's about $12-60k per month, or $144-720k per year.

Merch is difficult to guess but I'll go by average video view count. Merch is probably bought at about the same rate as memberships. Cover might get 30% in profit so the chuuba gets about 18% per sale. If there are 2k buyers and the average yearly purchase is $40 then cover might get $24k per year for one talent's merch. Or with 10k buyers, $120k per year.

Ads are pretty simple by comparison. Cover gets probably $2 per 1k ad view. If you have 100M views and 50% watch ads then cover gets about $100k.

Supers 200-1000
Sponsors 120-180
Memberships 144-720
Merch 24-120
Ads 100 per 100M
The yearly total for a decently popular chuuba is $592k-2120k. Talents get about 30% of everything and 60% of the merch profit, maybe. Double merch gives the total 616-2240k which they get 30% of. So before tax a mid level holo may make $184k and an upper tier top 5 can probably make $672k yearly.

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>>10413258
wtf? what did I miss about her?!

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>>10416505
her father...

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>>10416228
Aqua, Marine and Miko all have over 12-13k memberships , so just that alone is a lot of $ even accounting for cuts and taxes.

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>>10416554
If you lived in that country you'd be in a body bag by now

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>>10411874
She might be referring to how she makes enough such that she can afford to use a Global Employment Organization (GEO) to work in Japan despite the GEO potentially taking a third of her income.

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>>10416628
I mean, you're right. But it would've been from suicide of being in seanigger land

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>>10410190
The management takes everything

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>>10416554
her father...? some SEAnigger yakuza or what?

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>>10416884
powerful media conglomerate with high level government connections and influence

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>>10411874
Were you going to smell Kiara’s cunt?

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>>10416228
That is crazy money. Here I am going deploying to the fucking Middle East again, for at least half a year, to barely make even a fraction of that. A-at least the benefits are good.

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>>10412276
that one anon prolly believes in the WEF

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>>10417820
Just see it as winning the lottery. All of them were churning out content for years out of passion without seeing a fraction of those returns. It's a complete anomaly and they were at the right place at the right time.

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>>10418143
Also, this level of success won't continue for a lifetime. They'll have a few golden years which they'll need to budget out properly to make up for lesser earnings later in life. (Though of course they do gain a lot of connections they could take advantage of in the entertainment/music industry, as a pure streamer they probably won't be making the same amount in 5 years.)

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>>10416228
>Youtube gets 30% + Cover cuts (not sure about the percent i forgot) plus JP tax (just google it the higher the amount the bigger the tax) AND if your simps are iphone users they get taxed ANOTHER 30%.
>merch is... many because... it's just many okay? what source? my opinion or headcanon for fellow intellectuals is fact.
>$2 per 1k ad view. (TWO DOLLARS) per (ONE THOUSAND) ad views. :point_left: kekvv

I mean the superchats are nice and all but thanks hololive for funding youtube i guess? aside from the sponsors and memberships your post is an OMEGALUL

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>>10410897
Honestly, renting multiple apartments as a high earning chuuba probably isn't the worst option. Japan's public transit is damn good so you could prpbably get a standard apartment in an ok area, a 1 room crash pad in an area with bars or whatever, and then have a 3rd place in a cheap area just for streaming.

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>>10410190
Most of these people are SEAfags who think $100k is filthy rich.
The thing is even among the best of the best of vtubers like pekora, they're making what you could be feasibly making on a simple engineering degree.

They're well off for sure, but they're in a contained career with no real potential for future pivoting. They're just upper middle class at their most successful, but stuck in a fad job with no future.

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>>10418415
I'm sure a voice acting career would be the next logical step

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>>10418415
a simple engineering degree can get you 500k a year? Where are you living?
Also if you want some handsome money in the tech industry, working in places like Silicon Valley may cost you 100k a year.

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>>10418415
Mori has a million in superchats alone. No members, ads, premium, sponsors, or merch included. If you think most engineers are making more than 350k a year you’re an idiot. A senior software engineer in America makes around 100k average per Glassdoor.

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>>10417820
If you're American at least, if you stay in for 20 years your benefits will massively outweigh theirs.
That was anon's head canons numbers for one so its probably over inflated in the first place, but also they have no benefits like healthcare or retirement, no loan repayment programs etc etc

if you retire from the military after 20 years, outside of getting retirement pay for the rest of your life, free education (or for your kids), disability (because everyone gets disability), vetran benefits, etc... you're far better off than they will be. outside of the permanently damage to your knees and back and life long suffering.

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>>10418578
>>10418570
even in bumfuck nowhere you're making 90-100k starting.
without getting into numbers waving, we're also talking say the top 10% of earners in engineering which does easily get in the 200-500k range. This is including benefits and other perks they get like bonuses which hololivers are highly unlikely to get.

and more importantly, its consistent money without the need for graduation streams or anniversaries, with a future in the industry once you're tired of it.

200k a year is really good money, but far from the top earners for even basic STEM stuff.

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>>10418570
I'm sure his point is that engineering is way more stable than a vtubing career. Those are the absolute 0.01% top vtubers.
The average engineer in tech in the US earns like 90k which makes you fucking rich in 90% of the world. Seriously the best thing you can do as a third worlder is learn good english and something software related because even if the US pays you garbage for their standards you will earn more than most of your country

I live in a decent country that's not first world and the shittiest tech salaries in the US are good salaries here. There's a technology boom and a boom in remote work so if you strike now you can get a consistent decent tech job from the safety(or unsafety) of your third world shithole and live comfortably for those standards.

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>>10418595
Fucking moron. There’s a reason so few get their twenty. And military pay scales are public knowledge. You think anyone under a general would rather serve 20 years for scale and “great” benefits instead of earning 5 times as much money playing video games you cretin? A full bird gets around 12k a month after 22 fucking years of service they start around 6-7 a month. When you can deployed to buttfuck 3rd world hellhole and possibly get shot. You know what Mori can do with the extra 500k a year she makes more than a colonel? Buy equivalent benefits and invest for retirement. Jesus I assume this is bait from someone who never had to deal with the va but it’s just so dumb.

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>>10418676
No. Cite your sources. Mine are from Glassdoor salary surveys. That’s average national salary for a senior, not entry level engineer. 200k/year is very far from the top of vtubers obviously. And none of these girls will have any trouble making money or even getting a job after their vtuber careers are over

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>>10418773
a major makes like 5k+ a year, along with tax fuckery + other bullshit benefits like housing. the military pays for like over half your bullshit that you'd have to normally pay yourself which translates to actual money.
people massively underestimate how much you make in the military because they forget about all those other benefits.
yeah it sucks you could get deployed, but just get a skillset where you're not the one kicking down doors you dumb faggot.

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>>10410190
I assume most of them dont get used to the idea of suddenly getting "massive" amounts of money and think this vtubing gig might die any day so they just save up most of their income.

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>>10418415
That's cope. STFU. These bitches are fucking loaded.

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>>10418249
People always assume that connections just happen, too, but the vtubers do actually have to make those connections and not have those be the wrong ones with fair-weather associates who'll conveniently ghost them once they're no longer Miss Popular, or have them only be with cheap mixers and producers who would just shrug and give the same rates, only now you can't recoup your investment. Look at Artia, she was still pulling 1-2k viewers a stream which was still better than the vast majority of Twitch streamers. Where are her connections today?

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uhh guys? can you stop red pilling our own people and go back to /pol/?

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>>10418832
>cite your sources
I work it. my buddy just signed on to a new company for 250k with a 50k sign bonus, and he has a total of 5 years experience.
I make less, but still enough I'm not seething with jealousy over stream sluts.

Averages are always lower than reality because it
>doesn't take into account bonuses and sign on
>its artificially lowered by entry level jobs making jack shit and pajeets getting hired for pennies to do monkey work
look at any decently sized company and their averages will be higher.

>none of these girls with have trouble getting a new job making similar money
yeah, being an ex-streamer is in high demand i'm sure.
>200k/year is far from the top
its really not once you take into account everyone else's cut and the investments they have to make with it. your average vtuber is probably making $100/month.

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>>10418676
>>10418747
oh yeah because one play video 4 hours a day, 5 days a week from home.
While the other works 45 hours a week in a boring ass job and having to study 4 years of colleague CS hell.
Nope, I'd rather be Pekora than be a tech lead in a FAANG company. I'll stream for 4 years, save 2M$ and fuck off to Costa Rica to enjoy the rest of my life

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>>10418938
She threw them away

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>>10418984
>2mil
>for life
fucking lmao.
have you ever worked a day in your life or paid bills? 2mil is fuck all unless you're living in a literal shithole.

>4 hours a day
if you really think they only work 4 hours a day you're retarded.

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>>10418984
>Work from home at tech job
>Don't have to answer to no one
>Do your job the first 4-5 hours of the day. Say you did it in 8, no one complains since you did all they asked for
>Raise the ladder slowly but consistently while you use the rest 19-20 hours of your day as you like

Will you be the superstar of your work environment? No. But time is money and working 4-5 hours and getting paid for 8 is a good deal. If you are consistent then they won't get rid of a cog that does his job solidly and doesn't complains.

Never kill yourself for your CEO's yacht. If you have your own company then sure you can kill yourself working to make it succeed, but if you are smart the average tech job will be far more consistent and rewarding than vtubing for a living. Then during your 19 free hours per day you can vtube or game or masturbate or do your reps as much as you want.

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>>10418864
O4 starts at 5k and maxes out at 8k. Let’s assume like idiots that the other benefits are worth the same as base pay so our major is making 100k/year to start. (This is dumb. Benefits aren’t magic you can buy the equivalents and any vet would take 50k in a heartbeat). Let’s also ignore the fact you might literally get shipped off to fucking Afghanistan. If Mori is making 500k (she isn’t, she making quite a bit more) after 3 years she is a million ahead in wealth and is making around 40-50k in passive income/year. Mori could retire and do whatever and our major will catch up after 15 years or so of hoping there won’t be another major conflict in the worlds various shitholes

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>>10419038
did you not see the word "Costa Rica"?
Also, The American median salary is 35k, meaning that I'd already got 57 years of total salary of an average American. So 2M$ is good enough to live for 50 years even in America.
Yes, they work 4 hours a days, not including works involve special events, sponsor stuff, 3D, concert

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>>10418832
in the tech industry, we use: https://www.levels.fyi

you usually hit around L5 (senior) in your mid to late twenties which is around 300k at any of facebook/apple/amazon/microsoft/google/other large companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419162
good luck finding a WFH job that pays 100k a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418832
I'm not sure why you think any company would hire one of them after their chuuba career gutters and dies, especially for high pay. Are you suggesting people hire them for more corporate streaming? Why would they, when the main reason they're even up for hire is because they've clearly lost so much of their audience that they can't be supported by them? In what other field would their main skillset of gaming and making small talk about their lives to audiences be useful? And why wouldn't I just get an earlier, better version of them, one of the young ones hungry for success and willing to accept a much lower cut?
It's been 15 years since justin.tv was founded. Can you find examples of streamers whose streaming careers were initially successful but then faded out, only to be hired in lucrative careers based off their extensive streaming experience? Where are the four heavenly kings today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419352
Time is money. Not doing commute and gaining 2 hours per day is already fucking huge. Being able to apply to work at any country in the world is huge if you are froma poor country.

You know what all old people wish they had more? Time. Even if you earn 70-80k with that configuration I'd be way happier than going commuting to work and earn 110k as they steal 10 hours of my life per day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419435
He is right. Time in the spotlight is limited and fickle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419293
people can't live on the median salary dumbass.
and basing if off what your bottom of the barrel mexican worker is making is not "filthy rich"
>only 4 hours a day
outside of all the other stuff they do, streams don't magic themselves into existence just because you hit record. there's work that goes into vtubing beyond just recording yourself playing apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419344
hey that looks coo-
>Race: Asian
>minimum 6 years working at google
>half of salary is actually stock grants
okay maybe L4 is goo-
>STOCK GRANTS
yikes. nice way tp make your salary look high tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419038
2 million in assets with a very conservative 4% liquidation rate per year is 80k/year taxes at long term capital gains, roughly equal to 100k in income. Which is the average income for engineers in America. It’s not complicated math.

Ayame probably actually works less than 4 hours a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410224
Not that expensive all things considered. I own a 10,000 dollar car, and Coco probably doesn't even drive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419878
What are your sources for average engineer salary? Software engineer at google sounds average right? You mean your average engineer isn’t taking home 50-100k in stock options a year? Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419922
Keep coping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Reine is humble rich. She's always been rich, and came off as a snob at first. But by interacting with the peasants, she came to become her best self and now does comfy adorkable streams. Vtubing is basically her redemption arc. Now she's the best of her generation AND branch just by virtue of having a good personality, while Anya still seems snobbish and Ollie has that cringey wealthy party girl trainwreck vibe.

Not every rich chuba is a good chuba, but some of them are decent enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419878
RSUs are basically just cash. So not only does it make your salary look high, it actually makes your salary high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419985
Cope with what? That's a basic fact. Are you not accepting reality again, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

Thread reeks of STEM cope. No one likes tranny jobs, go seethe and dilate somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419985
>9000 is expensive and proof of a luxury lifestyle
Keep coping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Kiara qualifies for the investor visa in japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419605
so XQC, who streams 11 hours a day, according to you, has to work 16 hours a day, right?
Playing Apex and Minecraft is 100 times easier than working on a MERN application

[Anonymous No.]

>>10420347
Coping again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10420344
Not many can be a successful tranny streamer like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416940
Thought that was her mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419878
you have no idea how stock grant at a publicly traded company works do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419961
> Software engineer at google sounds average right?
You can look up median software engineering salary on the same site. $232K if you're in SF: https://www.levels.fyi/2020/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410950
I would've gladly lived with my parents for a while if they weren't a fucking pain in the ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Calliope Mori and her expensivs as shit ugly hats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410224
that's true 9000 is a lot, but i guess for something you sllep on everyday, that also determines if you wake up refreshed/without your body fucked it's worth it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419280
Such is life I suppose. Just gotta make the best of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419922
10k for a car is not that much, for a bed it's stupidly extravagant.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't Nyanners buy her mother a house, and is buying some dumb irl cat cafe?
Chuubas typically won't flaunt their riches if they are smart. Saviorfags won't throw money at them as readily, so it's easier to pretend they can't even afford a better PC setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410224
>people arguing a 9k bed is not expensive
my sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>10425607
She did open a cafe. A fictional one that she commissioned as an art piece.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10425506
A decent mattress is around 1k minimum. Throw a nice frame on it and that's an extra 1k. Rounding slightly up, include the box springs a cute comforter and sheets, an extra 1kish.

That's 3k for a bed. Now a nice mattress easily gets up for 3-5k. Which beings the cost to 8k before taxes.

It's honestly about normal for a bed to be nearly 9k. I dont see the big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10425693
Cute.
Nyanners consistently has cute taste, easily one of the top 10 vtubers in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410224
It's a lot of money but I wouldn't really count that because it's a bit of a special case. She wouldn't have bought the bed if fans didn't donate to her specifically for that purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416884

This goes back to the bugmen attacking Coco and they decided to Dox the brand new ID girls. Apparently Reine scared the shit out of them and caused them to go "Ok stay away from this" and considering these assfucks were willing to piss pf the CCP using VPNs to attack Coco ot means a lot for them to fear screwing with Reine

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe chuubas like Pekora or Aqua pays the appartment's rent, that would be an effective power move.
>I don't live with my parents, my parents live with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10425876
it's funny how these stories get twisted so much. It's a discord Indog that doxxed Reine but he got a warning after that

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Marine has talked about dropping ~$100,000 on a project (This was probably Unison)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10426242

>How many rrats will it take to gnaw through a tonne of putrid flesh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Pizza Papa can afford hot meals and ikea furniture now because of foreign SC. That's rich. relatively. For holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419605
>people can't live on the median salary dumbass
There are tens of millions of burgers who will work a (sub-median) shitty dead end job until they're old enough to collect social security. Idk what the deal is with internet people pretending the lower classes don't exist. Everyone in the country is a college grad ramping up to their six figure office job? Come on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10413779
moona's autism is too powerful

[Anonymous No.]

>>10413032

Ame has a house? Thought it was a bigger apartment

[Anonymous No.]

Pikamee was able to afford expensive treatment for her cat and is currently moving to a new apartment that she bought a 2 million yen soundproof booth for.

[Anonymous No.]

So pretty much all the Holo EN and JP pulled in like 400-500 last year?

[Anonymous No.]

Mori took business class to and from burger'ville, and also for the inter-country short hop. She also got reality checked by a friend after she said "oh it's not that much", to which the response was "to you, maybe, because you're minted."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10430296
>She also got reality checked by a friend
Dump her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410621
There is literally no reason to move out unless you dislike your family or are trying to make a life/family with another person. If you are single and are on good terms with your family then what's the point? Just be sure to pay some kind of rent so you aren't an absolute leech (i.e. NEETs go get a job)..

[Anonymous No.]

>>10412411

Toast is definitely one of the big ones though

[Anonymous No.]

>>10430296
>>10430493
the reaper came from a minted reaper background
born with a silver scythe in her hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>10412411
Toast was exceptionally large on twitch, and twitch also seems a lot more favorable in terms of revenue %.

From what I know donations go 100% to the streamer, but twitch takes 50% of bits and subs. It's common knowledge though that bigger streamers negotiate that cut down to like 25-30% and toast was definitely big enough to pull that off.

This is also ignoring sponsored streams and ad revenue because there are way too many variables to accurately estimate those.

In Hololive's case the talents split donations, ad revenue, and membership 30/35/35 youtube/cover/themselves and I imagine sponsorships are split 50/50 cover/themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>paid for the 1 million yen winning pool of the Nijisanji janken tournament out of his own pocket
>donated 10 million yen to an orphanage using SC/VP money/money earned as a vtuber
>paid for his shinjuku/shibuya billboard stunt
https://twitter.com/mayuzumi_X/status/1410455411434475520
>occasionally purchasing the latest technology so he can study and talk about it
>got a new studio a while ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410621
At least in America, we place a lot more emphasis on individuality. Being stuck at home with your parents, and thus stuck to their whims and bullshit is stressful enough without the pressure to be out on your own.

Personally I don't give a shit that its cheaper to live with my parents and that they would "happily" let me stay there. I need my own privacy and ability to sing shitty vocaloid songs in the shower, I would rather die than stay there with my parents constantly holding it over my head threatening to kick me out if I do X or Y, when X and Y are both completely normal things I have been doing while living on my own. But there's a huge difference between getting kicked out unplanned with nowhere to go, and being able to spend a week or 2 searching for a place to live and moving out.
I'm grateful to my parents, and they've done a lot for me over the years. But god damn they're emotionally abusive pieces of garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10430819

source? no idea about her previous home life but her initial run in japan was definitely tough

[Anonymous No.]

>>10431460
Sounds like you've got a pretty shitty relationship with your parents, anon. I've got a great relationship with my parents and they'd never kick me out unless I did something irredeemable like rape someone. They know that I'm a weeb and it doesn't seem to bother either of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410621
This. The housing market is really shit and the population boom in cities makes it financially better for families to live under the same roof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10411874
They let Pewdiepie buy a house there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432056
I've just got shitty parents, ironically i'm the one they like the most out of their kids because i'm a goody two shoes. But even I get shit for no reason
>hey anon we're going to dinner at your favorite place later
>few minutes before
>ah never mind we decided to eat ramen instead
>well fuck you guys i'll drive myself in my car i paid for, and buy my own dinner then
>DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE ANON. THIS IS A FAMILY DINNER AND IF YOU LEAVE YOU'RE NOT WELCOME BACK

shits fucking ridiculous. went back to visit over holiday and got that shit. like hell i'm moving back in.
/vent
fuck parents. paying for my college won't change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10425720
No, it's not normal for a bed to be 9k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410950
>>10411232
Money is tight for a lot of people right now, faggot. It's been tight for a lot of people since forever. Even if you've got your head above water, what's the point in such a needless expense as renting/buying your own home unless you're trying to start a family with someone. Get your head out of your ass, euroslime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but didn't Coco buy a huge place at a very expensive address in Tokyo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10411177
who fucking cares? it's okay to rape and beat your wife in a lot of cultures as well. how is that even a fucking argument?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432586
Not that anon but way to false equivalence retard

[Anonymous No.]

Not giga celebrity money, but definitely like experienced neurosurgeon cash

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432482
That was going to be the end goal but the current arrangement (which was at least initially supposed to be only a temporary solution) is just rented apartments.

Speaking of Coco though I just remembered her mentioning her taxes for last year were an eight figure number yen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432392
The mattress alone is 3-4k
assuming >girl they probably spend an equal amount of money on things like the frame and sheets/comforter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432586
>comparing living with your parents to rape and beating your wife
Seek help anon, please. You're not that smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433378
I didn't compare them, I used it as an example to prove why it's stupid to be okay with things just because they're culturally acceptable. Living with your parents your entire life isn't something to strive for, and if you think it is you're hardcore coping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433517
what's the downside? you only really need to move closer to work, or if you have kids you might need more space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433791
The downside is that you'll be a fucking child for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433791
>no privacy
>can't bring girls home
>forever immature because you never learn how to function on your own
>probably will forever have mommy/daddy issues
>no confidence
there's a reason most of those foreign girls prefer american men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10431463
look at the region her parents live in: a very costly region
you cannot afford to live there unless you are wealthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433836
NTA but you're implying that living in the same house with your parents makes you a child even if you're making a financial contribution to the household. My parents and grandparents live in the same house with me and I wouldn't consider any of them children. Its just a cheaper lifestyle is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Ina owns a Cintiq which is minimum $600, max $1700

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433907
Anon, some families just can't afford it lmao. Especially given the current circumstances. Take that silver spoon out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434053
hypothetically sure, you could start handling your share of household requirements. but many (most) people don't and just continue the status quo of being a child and relying on their parents for everything.
even if you're making financial contributions, if your contribution to the household is just handing your dad some money and then jacking off on the computer, you're not really contributing to the household.
>>10434171
Its fine to not be able to afford it, but at the same time there are noticeable detriments in not having it.
that's why you should be "striving" to move out even if you can't afford it currently

[Anonymous No.]

>>10433246
You spend almost a third of your life in your bed. A mattress isn't a bad investment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434353
Agreed, though I'd point out there's diminishing returns. a 1k bed will be more than enough for anyone without outstanding back issues. the difference between a 1k bed and a 3k bed are minimal at best considering you'll be asleep for most of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434269
>if your contribution to the household is just handing your dad some money and then jacking off on the computer, you're not really contributing to the household

Lmao sounds like a contribution to me. Money goes back to the household that could be used for maintenance and groceries. Who cares what you do after? My dad used to kick back on his lazyboy for hours after work. Was he not making a contribution to the family?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419922
A car is inherently more expensive than a bed, the fact that her bed almost matches the price of a car is what should tell you how expensive it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434538
Because you're not growing up and you don't understand what it takes to run a household. its one thing to say
>oh house cost money... and there's a mortgage thing... and utilities it costs something
its another to realize how much your take home money actually gets you, and what that translates to in reality after you spend money on everything you need to live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434728
And that money can't contribute to utilities and mortgage because? You're making a lot of assumptions here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10411222
That income metric is 100% pulled out your ass, Coco isn't buying a $9000 bed on Cover money or ad money, Ame isn't buying VR setups for everyone on 5% income of donations are you daft?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434728
Sounds like you're just poor/lower-middle class (in the US)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416228
>Membership numbers are publicly available on numbers sites, but it's not known how many members buy T2 and T3. I can't find the numbers right now but it's over 2k members for many. I think the bigger names have over 10k. If the average member pays $6 monthly that's about $12-60k per month, or $144-720k per year.
where ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434988
It's about being able to live on your own dude.
You're not a self sufficient individual while you rely on your parents. That's literally all it is. It's fine for awhile, but it will translate to other aspects of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
I believe it has to do with the lifestyle of someone that plays games/does art and then decides to be an anime girl for an audience of weebs: they probably weren't that outgoing to begin with, why buy a house only for you? why buy a lambo if you aren't into cars? why buy gucci if you are in your house all the time and your friends pre chuuba aren't the kind to care about brand names?

They are probably saving for the future, if they are smart enough they are aware that they might be in a bubble that might burst any minute now, or that they could fuck up bad enough that it warrants immediate graduation.

Also it makes little to no sense to actually flex, even if they are getting sponsorship money which is the bag, they still had to push themselves first with the money of superchats which are pretty much donations.

Only person I could totally see wasting money on cars and clothes is calli and that's just based off of her rapper personality.

TL;DR
no probably don't spend money on dumb luxury items like cars and clothes, and if they do they probably won't flex because they aren't douchebags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10434728
Why should anyone want their own family in current year? Thus no reason to learn about running a house until much later in life. Look at the board you're on, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10430155
Pekora, Rushia, Lamy, Noel+roommate, Marine, Korone, Aqua, Gura and Mori are all making double that. This applies to the top nijis as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435395
>why would anyone want a house
Privacy
More room to fuck around in and have person projects
A yard to fuck around in and have a dog
None of the bullshit of apartments like annoying neighbors
Not having to be at the mercy of shitty land lords
Ability to customize house as you feel the need to

Even if you're autistic there's plenty of reasons to want a house. If anything being autistic gives having a house more meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435248
Look at the state of the world right now. The market, the opportunities. I don't know what its like in burgerland but this anon here >>10410621 hit the nail on the head.

Living with your parents is a simple, cheaper lifestyle that most of the world can afford, so long as you're not an absolute leech. You're either delusional or still think that the world is trapped in the housing bubble.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435604
ffs I meant this anon >>10410621

[Anonymous No.]

>>10411093
what are her hobbies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435641
You mean this anon? >>10410717

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435604
>>10435641
>>10435679

Fucking hell I'm sleepy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Ame had two busted 3090s and could barely lift a finger to have them rma'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435604
That's a cool story bro. But not being able to afford something doesn't mean that you're not suffering from not being able to afford it.

Kids in Africa can't afford food. That doesn't mean not having food is okay, it just means their life really sucks.
It's fine to not be able to afford a house, but acting like there's no reason to want one is silly. Also the housing market is not nearly as bad as people cry about, that's just zoomer cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432056
>I've got a great relationship with my parents and they'd never kick me out unless I did something irredeemable like rape someone.
>So that's what your parents are like too. You must be a piece of shit :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10411154
yes, but it's one thing to go from say brandless to calvin klein to something stupid like louis vuitton.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435789
Ok boomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435792
And your issue is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418373
To be fair, many people who don't have membership will buy merch, and many members will also buy it, so I don't see the problem with these numbers.
$2 per milli was a miscalculation because considered the holo takes 30% overall, so the minimum there should have been $3. But I have seen it go up to $10 in some cases. If we think of ads as 500k per 100M max with 400 excess, just add $130k to the annual figures for low and high estimates. It's not that hard, and you don't have to be a dumbass to see the numbers are mostly right, but definitely absolute low estimates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435549
Your own family is not the same as a house lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435789
I hate to use this stupid term but dude seriously that's a really privileged position you're taking there. It'd be nice to have a place to call my own but I'm being realistic here. The housing market is very shit right now unless you're upper-middle or rich.

There are a lot of empty homes and homeless. Tell me how that shit makes sense. In any case I'm not a burger so what do I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436286
Yeah but the benefits were about having your own place, or a house.
Not about the family itself which is a different issue with its own benefits and detriments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436356
> It'd be nice to have a place to call my own
and that's all I'm saying dude.
its preferable to have than not have. thus you should strive for it. i don't know why you're getting so defensive about something when you literally agree with what i said like 30 minutes ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436357
You get the same benefits even if you live with your parents. If they don't want you bringing gfs/bfs over then just T pose to assert dominance, it really isn't that hard to make it work.

[Anonymous No.]

didn't know burgers hate their family so much

[Anonymous No.]

>Releasing ~18 or so covers this year
>Plus original song
>Says he dumped a lot of cash into his 3D
>Commissions illustrations once a month from popular artists for his members
>Spent hundreds of dollars on Digimon cards
>Bought a $1k mic
>Expensive taste in fashion and once tweeted about the $300 shirt he bought
>Has an annual Disneyland pass and goes there often
>Not to mention all the Disney merch he buys including a Gucci Donald wallet

I don't think any of the other boys spend half as much as him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436478
Maybe you don't mind showing your parents your S&M dungeon, but some of us have this thing called human decency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
99.9% of chuubas do not make a lot of money unless their roommate has a good job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436425
I never denied that. I'm the anon that said that living with your family is a more affordable lifestyle than living alone right now. I just took issue with you saying that most people who live with their parents are children which is retarded.

That's the status quo for most of the world who spend their lives raising generations in the same house because of various circumstances. Being a leech and living with your family are two different things (though they may sometimes overlap)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435885
Mori says she drinks blue label Johnnie Walker which is very expensive for an average high class whiskey $200-500 per bottle. I don't believe her though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436546
>Taking your partner home when you live with your parents is indecent
Are the walls paper thin in your place or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436546
Not into S&M. I also work 2nd shift so privacy is a non issue, I have almost 6 hours to myself every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436748
so it's average but priced up? I mean, she could just like it for the flavor rather than the branding, because if she just wanted to flaunt how much her drink costs I'm pretty sure there are way more expensive bottles out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436478
My older brother just rents a house with a cousin to use as a sex dungeon but still lives with us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
Pekora's preferred umeshu of choice is over $200 a bottle

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436756
Yes, they are. There's a reason why burger housing was cheap and plenty, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435026
plenty top streamers have said that donations don't mean much. Pokimane limited donations to 5$ because they only account for 5% of their income

[Anonymous No.]

>>10430296
>Mori took business class
God it took me a few attempts to parse this as "business class flights" and not "business studies college class", I really must need to sleep jfc

[Anonymous No.]

>>10440194
Thats what she said, but really it was a specific series of PR disasters because she doesn't understand human emotions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10425876
Based as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10413518
Kombini food is not really expensive and is VERY good in Japan and really convenient so it definitely doesn't count.
Uber Eats is definitely part of just the well off lifestyle nowadays. These people can't cook after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10432161
You don't need residence to buy property in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10435139
Anon pulling things out of his ass.
Member chat scrapers exist but they are not reliable at all.
We have a new site, hololyzer, that tracks amounts of members acquired in a stream but some people member off stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10440915
thank you anon for parsing it for me, i didn't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436748
that is more of a celebration drink isn't it? She used to do konbini alcohol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410224
Waste of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10448085
I thought so, but she mentioned Blue Label in her Jump King stream. I hope she doesn't exclusively drink it now, that's a massive expense considering how much she drinks.
>>10437305
It's not exactly average, it's probably better than other whiskeys in the same price range. And yes there are way more expensive bottles. But a $200 whiskey has high class taste for most plebs. More expensive bottles are for flexing, business connections, and maybe 1% better taste. Once you get to the Blue Label level whiskey you have a better flavor than 95%+ of other whiskeys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10410190
they get to play expensive videogames

[Anonymous No.]

>>10456433
She got it from the airport after flying back from America. Since her final T2 stream, she is at half that bottle -10 sips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417820
Are you capable of being a cute girl online and talking to other anons? Not like you are stuck in the military forever anyway anon. Just save up and buy a streaming set up and join a management network. Make your vtuber a solider. Bet you could scoop up all the women who want to ship cute boys with army gear. The cakes got deep pockets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10456433
>paying ~200 for blended scotch
blue is completely overrated nothing but marketing
its basically just for idiots who don't know anything to impress other idiots who don't know anything. If I'm gonna drop that kind of money on a bottle I'd much rather get a Macallan 18 or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Just be famous or be autistic enough to get an engineering job lol. or just be rich dafuq are you guys whining here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10430819
>>10433913
Nigga, what are you talking about? Do your roommate reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10456433
Whiskey fag here, Johnnie Walker blue label isn't that expensive if she don't chug it down in an evening like a degenerate. But like other anon said, it mainly shows her tryhard trash taste

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>>10418676

nigga I have a masters in electrical engineering from a top 100 university and I make 60k AUD (44k USD). Get fucking real

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>>10469830
>he only makes 60k AUD with a masters in electrical engineering
You need to find yourself a better paying job pronto my man, you're getting screwed. I made that in my literal first year of work out of my BSci
t. software engineer making 110k AUD

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>>10437420
>living with your incestuous brother

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>>10461773
Yes I know.

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This is the most burger thread I've ever read

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>>10410950
I'm sorry you had such shitty parents lmao jk not i'm not, faggot

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>>10469830
Have you tried not being Australian?

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>>10461339
I was mostly joking with my comment. I don't regret going military, as I've seen quite a few interesting things, people and have gotten quite a bit of opportunity that I otherwise wouldn't have had. Yeah, deploying may suck, but at least they pay for your school, education, most of your heatlhcare, plus you get to travel for free. Well, maybe not right now, but perhaps someday when we get over this covid bullshit.

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>>10410190
Most Chuubas are menhera, and so their priorities are different. If you have your own room and a good relationship with your parents, you have literally no reason to move out. Most of these girls have no irl friends, let alone partners, so they don't even need the privacy beyond a knock on their door in case they're masturbating. Japanese culture also really values family so it's not uncommon to just chill with them until you make your own.

It's not even like they're frugal, either. They all spend a lot of money in all sort of things; they just don't have the same priorities we would. Coco's stupidly expensive bed, all the JP's gacha, Kiara lifestyle, Noel's habits, etc.

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>>10447805
Correct. The house is in a Japanese person's name. Japan actually understands you have to retain your culture and not let foreign powers influence your housing industry like the US and CA have stupidly done.

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>>10468458
>if she don't chug it down in an evening like a degenerate.
Mori is a semi functioning alcoholic.

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>>10483966
>Noel's habits
At least she blows her money on tangible shit like speakers and mics and the studio. Marine, Suisei, and Fubuki just flush their cash down the toilet over pngs.

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>>10461773
People with money spend too much time working or socializing to truly get into anything. For scotch for example, they simply buy JW blue or whatever's expensive without understanding it even if it's not single malt and then gulp it down. It's also the same for everything else they spend their money on.

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>>10484146
I was more talking about that time she mentioned buying a big plate of high quality sushi just for herself, and felt bad about it because her brother would kill her for spending so much money on something like that.

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>>10410224
The fact that she's wasting her money on $9k beds is probably why she isn't rich.

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>>10440194
Poki limited her donos as a PR move lmao. She was by far the one with the most self destructive simps, so she limited her donos to look "sympathetic".

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>>10484366
It wasn't normal for her. She happened to mention she slept on a futon or something and fans then pushed the purchase on her by superchatting tons of money while saying it's for the most expensive bed she can find. When it comes down to it there aren't many things more worth splurging over than a good night's sleep anyway though.

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>>10417820
If you actually want money, go pmc. Mind you that market was a lot more saturated at least a few years ago than it was back then. And if things get hot you're fucked since lol no air support.

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>>10418984
Mori doesn't even stream 5 days a week

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>>10410982
>But I would have thought something along the lines of them mentioning ... vacations
Mori was planning on booking a $30,000/night hotel for her trip with Kiara until she changed her mind at the last second.

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>>10435757
She’s probably committing tax evasion, I’m sure her plan is very smart and will totally work out lel.

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>>10484760
...because it was a mistake

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>>10484836
sssshhhhh, what's a good rrat without a bit of rancor

Honestly even the number she had in her head wasn't much better... $3k/night is still expensive as fuck.

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>>10410728
Money piles up in japan while your property loses value every year. Would just be dumb.

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>>10484334
She's not broke anymore and needs to kill that mentality. That's a poverty mindset and it makes having money not nearly as comfortable.

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>>10410621
Angloids hate their families and sees them as burden

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>>10411232
Then you're eitheir a britoid or an americanized continental

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>>10410950
Why the fuck would a woman go out of her parents house if shes not married?

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>>10489155
He's an americoid. He probably thinks success in life is about money and sex and pulling yourself from your bootstraps as his parents kick him out of his house at 18.

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>>10410982
They don't talk about that shit because they don't want their fans to think their donations are going to frivolous stuff.

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>>10410950
t.amerilard

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>>10410982
only subhuman retards spend money like that

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>>10410190
kys cumshart

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>>10420344
Go wash your axe gash, fatass tranny.

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>>10434101
But she got that before becoming a chuuba, didn't she? She bought it for work.

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>>10489232
What exactly is your idea of success then? Sucking on your moms tits until you're 40?

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>>10488978
Yes. The proper view.

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>>10416228
so in short you're saying my oshi is making money hand over fist and the only bad thing about buying Johnnie Walker is that it tastes like shit

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>>10410982
>I imagined successfull youtuber rich.
You say that as if that's not separated into classes as well.
Like I don't think MatPat is making Mr.Beast dosh.

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>>10498959
>You either get kicked from home the second you turn 18 or you are a loser that will stay at home forever until their 40s

My dad is from a non american country, a surgeon, and he left his parents house at 29 after saving for a bit to buy the house he wanted. You are completely brainwashed if you think it's smart to leave your parents house ASAP and start renting instead of saving. You become a slave to the rent. They want you to spend as much as possible, as fast as possible, because when that money leaves your hands it eventually ends up in their pockets. If you have a safety net then you are not spending as much as you should in their eyes. Several cultures all around the world haven't been brainwashed by their elite controlled media and have a healthy outlook into aquiring property, saving and not treating inmediate family like garbge to be disposed of as soon as it's legally allowed.

Die owning nothing, lardass.

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Fuck everyone here making me feel worse I lack any kind of ability that would make me money

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>>10502006
Don't base your self worth off your ability to be exploited for wealth. Hate yourself based off the fact you're worthless to anyone regardless of if you could make money off it or not.

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Just say "examples of Hololive members being rich"

You guys are deluding yourselves if you think anyone from the other four/five core agencies is breaking the bank... Hell, breaking EVEN with revenue streams.

And I don't say that to devalue the vtubers themselves, I mean it in the sense that you're unironically putting pussy on a golden pedestal and assuming they make wayyyyyyyy more than they actually do.

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>>10502006
Then start. You are most likely under 30 find something you find tolerable to do for more than a decade and start learning.

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>>10502264
I'm 32 and have absolutely no aptitude for anything.
Genuinely I've tried everything I can think of and fail miserably at it.

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>>10502623
I'm 31 and I feel you bro. I've tried to learn so many things and done so many various jobs and I can't stick with it for more then a year or two before I go insane. My last job was working as a Table Games Card Dealer at a Casino for 2 years, went insane and was so glad the Shutdowns happens. Tried to learn to code this past year but everytime I sat down my brain just blanks out and starts buzzing. Anything I try to learn lately I just can't focus at all.
Few friends told me I probably suffer from ADHD and I'm gonna go see a doc this week to see if I can get an Adderall Prescription and see if it helps.

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>>10502623
You've never heard of the 10,000 hours rule?

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>>10502142
>Holobronies this delusional after the huge cuts cover and youtube take
You're almost as dumb as the people who think gura makes the most money from having a high sub count

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>>10410190
https://youtu.be/EFGtVd7sJPs

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>>10502623
Ina, the most financially stable HoloEN member, was an useless hikki NEET that just drew anime girls amateurishly and played FFXIV all day. She went to college but then fell into depression and basically recluded herself to the safety of her room for years. Then one day she decided she wanted to do art for the rest of her life, and that she needed to take the steps needed to go pro to do that. She started grinding art hard as a NEET on her parents house. If you look up her art on art archives you can see how around 2016 or so she started drastically improving and slowly went from above average amateur to an actual character designer with a defined style and all. At around 2018 she started gaining a ton of followers and started to be recognized, started winning art contests, and got employed by her dear mobile game companies.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Pick something. Anything, and try to become truly good at it. It will need some time to see the progress. It can even be a language, or art, or programming, or whatever. Just pick something and grind it until it becomes a marketable skill.

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>>10484586
That bed stopped doing shit for her sleep. It helped at first but she's back on her sleep pills

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>>10459757
There is zero reason to buy duty free in the US because we have no VAT and our taxes aren’t stupid (relative to the rest of the world). I know the hindu savages load up on bags of cheap zhang-made garbage in the Dubai airport but that’s because their shit country taxes them out the ass on everything. Also they are dumb savages with subhuman intellect so expect dumb things. As for Mori, she is the lowest form of white person alive, little better than a nigger, so buying overpriced brand crap like Blue Label or Cristal is expected, instead of a superior Japanese single malt or even a single malt from Scotland that would give far superior taste for equal or lesser cost. What do you expect?

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>>10504105
Based Ina. She deserves a good husband.

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>>10504231
>Earns a fuckton
>Buys an expensive Johnnie Walker
>This makes her the lowest form of white person alive.

Anon these women are earning more money than they know what to do with it. Spending 200 on a bottle of some fancy alcohol is nothing. I would go and try some japanese Wagyu A5 for those 200$ but in the end it's not that different,

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>>10434571
>>10432392
The difference is: Her bed is a sleep therapy bed, specifically made so she doesn't have to take sleeping pills. Spending money on it was a no-brainer for her, because sleeping is more important to her than driving, which she doesn't have to do in Japan.

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>>10504105
Didn't she work for Fate making Gacha cards for a bit? Granted, she was at home hiding out while doing it.

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>>10504114
Oh I didn't know that. I thought she was off them for good.

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>>10504301
me.

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>>10504114
Dunno where you''re getting this from but she isn't.