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10451036 No.10451036 [Reply] [Original]

Let’s say Kizuna Ai hires you as her manager. What do you make her do? Hopelessly keep trying to put out those short scripted videos that made her career at one point but are outdated these days? Turn her into a regular vtuber streaming Minecraft/Apex 12 hours a day? Double down on the idolshit and send her off to do live shows?
How do you save the OG vtuber from complete and utter irrelevance?

>> No.10451106

Make her say nigger

>> No.10451152

>>10451106
this might actually work...

>> No.10451186

>>10451036
You can't, her time has passed. I impregnate her until we have daughter and try from scratch.

>> No.10451207

there's no hope, the future of vtubing is milking superchats from lonely young men and i wouldn't want to make kizuna stoop that low

>> No.10451246

>>10451036
If I were her manager I would groom her, isolate her from her peers, and make her have sex with my daily. I would then use this information to blackmail her if she ever tried to fire me. Sure, a few years down the road she'd expose me publicly in some tell-all book, but all the sex I'm having with her the years before that will more than make up for that.

>> No.10451259
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>>10451036
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>> No.10451265

>>10451036
She's still doing well, she has a tiktok that gets tons of views. There's big money on that platform

>> No.10451308

>>10451036
Have her bend the knee and collab with Gawr Gura

>> No.10451335

>>10451036
Go full on China pandering. She's already half way there with tiktok domination.

>> No.10451390

>>10451259
Not gonna lie, Girlfriend Experience using Kizuna Tech would be unstoppable.

>> No.10452041

>>10451036
anon, she's only irrelevant for poor western eop audiences. She's still huge in jp, recognized around the world, and has been mentioned in mainstream medias and games that not even top-tier holomems have been able to.

>> No.10452113

>>10451036
Start by siting down in loto flower asana and meditate like ame does soon nice ideas will come your way.

>> No.10452499

>>10451036
Become the first pro wrestler chubba.

>> No.10452721

>>10451308
with who? lol

>> No.10453332

>>10451036
YouTube AI is dicking down Kizuna AI in the ass.
The reason why she can't grow is no one is clipping and sharing her because there's nothing to clip in a short vid since a short vid is already a clip. And with nothing being shared it kills her in the algorithm

>> No.10453419

She is well-known. But there is literally no reason to keep up with her. It's like how every hololive fan knows Sora, but only a minority watches her live.

>> No.10453459

>>10451036
Wtf why is she still at 2.98??

>> No.10453591

>>10451036
Make her say Taiwan is a country.

>> No.10453728
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10453728

give her a loli version

>> No.10454943

>>10453728
based
I'd 100% start watching her again.

>> No.10454963

>Announce that China can suck a fat one knowing that they can't because they're all so small
>Pull out of China
>Bring on Akari, Siro and buy back Luna
>Proceed to collab with Hololive and Nijisanji
>Release cross collaboration merch

>> No.10455317

>>10453332
having an official translator ironically killed her growth because it left very little room from clippers to spread her word. She also streams through her AI Games channel, but I wished she focused there more and collabed with more vtubers. too bad she can't invite holos anymore because she's chink property now.

>> No.10455627

>>10451036
Ask her to follow the meta or in another word, stream.
She has an interesting personality (if she's still the same Kizuna I used to watched in the past) and if she can adapting to the format, I'm sure it's only matter of time before she'll return from the obscurity she is in now.
As for the niches, she can figure it out along the way.

>> No.10455824

>>10451265
How do you make money from tiktok? I know that tiktok is good for promotion

>> No.10455830

>>10451036
Porn

>> No.10456046

She seems like she's doing fine to me
Obviously, streams are infinitely more profitable, but she's kizuna fakking ai
Short form content isn't dead, and she does stream and do all those concerts/promotions
It's almost as if... she's still one of the biggest Vtubers? Crazy, right?

>> No.10458163

>>10455824
Probably ad revenue. Haven’t used tiktok myself but I would imagine it’s flooded with ads much like youtube

>> No.10458616

>>10454963
>buy back Luna

what happened to kaguya luna

>> No.10459433
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>>10458616
Her alter ego blew up.

>> No.10459471

Is the rrat that she has a bunch of different people behind her avatar true?

>> No.10459529

>>10458616
sony happened. luna hated it so she quit

>> No.10459554

>>10451259
GFE is shit. Yuri is king.

>> No.10459649

>>10459433
p-maru right?

>> No.10460511

>>10459554
They're both shit

>> No.10460689

>>10451036
Low hanging fruit OP, and I say that as Amelia Watson’s manager
https://twitter.com/EngVTubersOOC/status/1439387750994743296?s=20

>> No.10460780

>>10453459
Algorithm doesn't like her anymore.
That and having her western growth kneecapped by not being in meta and thus discussed mean she's effectively just history in the west.

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10462725

>>10459649
>>10459433
IKUZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.10462952

>>10451036
>Be her manager
>Sell her to Hololive
>Have her always interact with Sora and the Gen 0s
>Slowly build up hype then change her look so that chink Ai is forgotten

>> No.10463719

>>10459433
>500k-1M views each vid
holy shit absolutely mogged everyone else here

>> No.10468000
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>>10451036
I would partner with leading AI companies to translate English and Japanese in the speaker's original voice in real-time and then have her collaborate with different indies each day. Everyone would go wild wanting to be on AI Channel and see this new tech connecting English and Japanese vtubers. Then once everyone starts copying her again we'd innovate on the next big thing in VR.

>> No.10468079

>>10453591
I heard some money-hungry whore already milked that cow dry

>> No.10468422

>>10451036
If you can't beat them, join them. Contact Cover and make a deal where they buy her model and then join Hololive.

Guaranteed that she'll be successful again.

>> No.10470949

>>10451036
She already lost everything other that some fan that still watch her shit

>> No.10471045

>>10451036

Vr porn actress

>> No.10471116

>>10471045
Vr porn actress with xi jiping

>> No.10471212

>>10451036
- Make Kizuna Ai China graduate and close her Bilibili channel
- Bring Back Ai-pii and Love-chan and do more videos with them
- start collabs with Hololive (she can do a collab with Tokino Sora)
- Bring back her Zone music interview show
- Do free live concerts on youtube
- Do an special event with Kaguya Luna or PMaru
- Do an special event with the 4 heavenly kings

>> No.10471278

>>10451036
Simple

Get her a Live2D avatar so she doesn't have to go to the studio for recording sessions and then have her stream more. She already gets pretty decent viewership when she does stream (3-4k) so making it a more regular thing would go over well. I would also ditch the AI Games channel and have everything on her main channel. In between streams she can still go to the studio to record her skits with that godlike 3D avatar so that aspect of her will still be around.

>> No.10471345

>>10459433
PMaru never left. Sony ruined Kaguya Luna

>>10459471
How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man?

>>10452721
china is about to ban vtubers just like they are doing it with youtubers. If something she has to pander to the western audience in that platform

>>10452721
If something Gura would be the one kissing her hand and I think both would have a good chemistry

>> No.10471390

>>10451036
Graduate all her global branch.
Go to china
Live stream her begging for xi seed.

>> No.10471432

>>10471278
>so she doesn't have to go to the studio for recording sessions and then have her stream more
She already does 3D content from her house. I think she is the only one who has a portable tracking studio and she only leaves for special events.

>> No.10471460

>>10471390
get out chumbud

>> No.10471561

>>10471345
>How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man?
For as long as Kizuna Ai is still being talked about, best settle in for the long haul buster

>> No.10471655

>>10451308
AI can't speak english well at all. Although, AI could bring Siro along, who has excellent english for a nip, and that would make the collab even more kino.

>> No.10471693

>>10471432
Well then that makes my solution even easier since you don't need the Live2D. Basically it comes down to streaming more consistently and consolodating everything onto her main channel.

>> No.10471796

>>10471693
Just watch her collabs with Norio and Haneru. While the rest is using 2D tracking, she is the only one with 3d tracking

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>>10451207
But she has already stooped to the lowest of lows by collabing on a cover from a character in an animated web series by SMG4 who has more views on one new video than she has people interested to watch even the first week of new videos combined.

>> No.10472034

>>10471982
>the lowest of lows
no, that's gura saying Mike Honey and realizing she's popular because of the loli model

>> No.10472133

>>10451036
Unironically, have her join hololive. Cover would accept the OG vtuber instantly and it would create massive amounts of hype amongst the viewers.

>> No.10472222

>>10472034
lol, I hadn't seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsBX47ev9Pc

>> No.10472245

>>10472133
china trolls would harass her

>> No.10472284

>>10472222
A part of her soul died that day.

>> No.10472316

>>10451036
Shouldn't her main goal for now be reach 3M subs on Youtube?? I mean she she still on 2.98 subs. Short term goal reach 3M subs, long term goal, who knows...

>> No.10472371

>>10472316
Probably she is now near 2.99M but the algorithm is not updating her as fast as she wants

>> No.10472463
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>>10451036
I think if she wanted to do the regular streaming thing she would've already started a while ago. I say just let her do what she wants, she's been in the game for a long time. I would say most of her appeal is that she doesn't do what everyone else does. If milking SCs from idiots is the only way she can stay afloat then I think it speaks volumes about the industry as a whole.

>> No.10472617

>>10472316
I thought she reached that around the same time as gura cus all the threads made it seem like it was a close race

>> No.10472754

>>10472617
Chumbuds subscribed in masse just to spite Ai-chan. Many of them unironically believe she was to blame for Kiryu Coco's outcome.

>> No.10473139

>>10451036
Only got into vtubers recently and to be honest I have no idea who this is

>> No.10473369

>>10473139
Which makes you a casual, a pleb and an ignorant.

>> No.10473402

>>10472617
Nope, they were never close, anyone who seriously pushed that was a jpsie seething that their glorious japanese product isn't the top anymore

>> No.10473455

>>10473369
get on with the times old man

>> No.10473577

>>10473402
>>10473455
why do you hate her so much?

>> No.10473629

>>10473577
Hate implies I think about her alot more than you think I do.

>> No.10473703

>>10451036
Just dissolve the company and let her do whatever she wants at this point. The girl deserves it.

>> No.10473721

>>10473629
Well that seems the case. You don't waste any chance to take her down

>> No.10473815

>>10473577
Actually sucks chink dick

>> No.10473834

>>10473721
I just tell the truth my lad, Kizuna Ai has gain 10k subs in the time it took Gura to gain 200k. The people thinking that they are at any way close are charitably hoping for a last minute push for Kizuna or uncharitably what I said above.

>> No.10474067

>>10473834
Too bad only one can be the first vtuber while the title of biggest vtuber will change over the years.

>> No.10474168

>>10474067
And this is what the kids these days call cope

>> No.10474277

>>10474067
You do know the first vtuber was Ami Yamato, right?

>> No.10474322

>>10473139
The OG vtuber, more precisely the who popularized it, even got pewds to watch her

>> No.10474374

>>10474277
She didn't coin the term though so too bad.

>> No.10474652

>>10451036
>Literally what’s next for her?
death

>> No.10478076

>>10474168
Will you cope when gura gets inevitably replaced though?

>> No.10478538

>>10451036
Let the hags die. Kill them, if you have to.

>> No.10479652

>>10478538
your favorite will become a hag and be replaced too

>> No.10479806

>>10471655
>AI can't speak english well at all.
neither can gura

>> No.10479859

>>10479806
why would you bring gura out of nowhere?

>> No.10479879

>>10471345
What are they doing with youtubers?

>> No.10479888

>>10471655
which of the AI actresses cant speak english? i'm sure one of them could probably manage.

>> No.10479956

>>10472463
"she" is a bunch of actresses reading scripts written by a corporation, there's no one to stream because it's not an actual person. THAT is why she doesn't stream. it's a shell, not a real person, even by vtuber standards

>> No.10479964

>>10479859
>>10451308

>> No.10479986

>>10479964
I accept your consession.

>> No.10480571
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>>10479888
>>10479956

>> No.10480774

>>10480571
damn they really butchered her and now they're using her to shill cryptoshit

>> No.10482240

>>10479879
They are banning them. Their version of tiktok removed donations and they are forcing youths to reduce their time connected.

>> No.10483890

>>10451036
>Let’s say Kizuna Ai hires you as her manager. What do you make her do?
molest her

>> No.10485146

>>10480571
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2020/04/24-1/the-first-kizuna-ai-has-been-revealedand-shes-back-to-advise-the-vtubers-new-company

She wasn't like most vtubers now. She was hired for a ROLE of a SCRIPTED character. What you see is almost nothing of the voice actress. They had several script supervisors and editors from the start to tell her what to say and do. That's not to say she didn't bring life to that role, but it was a role.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5qPHEngGk

nothing of what you posted disproves that.

>> No.10486419

>>10453728
>>10451106
You two are hired.

>> No.10486454

>>10482240
Does China hate fun or something?

>> No.10486652

>>10486454
they know fun can destroy the maoist dream so they use it as a poison to weaken their enemies, hence why they invest in tencent and tiktok while not allowing those companies to serve the same content in the mainland

>> No.10486959

>>10486454
There's this growing notion of 'lie flat' (tang ping) where young adults essentially work only so long as it takes to earn enough money to live a minimalist NEET life the rest of the year (sorta like people that work at resorts and stuff then surf the rest of the time). Obviously the people in the Party hate that idea, since being an economic powerhouse depends on people that're willing to consume, consume, consume.
I think the idea is that with all the 'anti-fun' stuff they've been doing (curtailing art they don't like, limiting gaming hours, etc.) will prevent the youth from realizing there's more to life than working.
Of course, this is all filtered through the skewed lens of Chinese news as reported by Western interests, so that's like three or more layers of propaganda.

>> No.10487075

>>10451036
just make her stop sucking chink cock

>> No.10487138

>>10486959
So basically they're trying to force people to become productive by banning everything to prop up the economy?
Don't see how it will work honestly, just sounds like it will piss people off.

>> No.10487681

>>10487138
>force people to become productive by banning everything to prop up the economy
I think the idea's less 'don't play games, get back to work' (since the rules they've been making are aimed at kids, not adults) but instead removing the outlet of gaming/vtubers/whatever as a pasttime for young people so they don't really consider it an option compared to studying or doing things the Party finds virtuous.
So the idea's less that they're punishing people for behavior they already have (though that's happening too), but instead shaping behavior for the impressionable.
Again, this is just my ignorant (Western) interpretation. I find lie 'modern' social paradigms interesting so it's something I've thought about a bit.

>> No.10488197

>>10486652
>>10486959
>>10487138
it's more than this, birth rates have slowed due to the global economy tightening out the middle class. they had a 1 child policy for a LONG time and it lead to a lot of females being aborted and the generations since have been SMALLER than the ones before, meaning it's a population with a lot more single males and old people. there's less reason for men to work themselves to death for slave wages if they don't have families, and less people/births over all means there's even less workers. as their population is also aging out of the work force and requiring more workers and taxes to take care of them it further increases strain. this is why they are trying to stomp out anything which promotes "girly men" also. cant have any gays or trans if you want people making kids.

Population trends:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57303592
Families concerned about the economic conditions: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-three-child-policy-demographic/2021/05/31/95a086e2-c1e8-11eb-89a4-b7ae22aa193e_story.html

>> No.10488214

>>10451186
This. Just fuck her till you're bored. It's all she's good for now.

>> No.10488409

>>10487075
Vtubers on bilibili have their days numbered. It will happen soon

>> No.10488477

>>10485146
>she is a bunch of actress
No,she isn't a bunch of actress since early 2020 when aipii and lovechan left to their own channel and got new designs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmLFSguxTRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO25ySgPpf8
>nothing of what you said disproves that
If you are talking about nozomi's video as "proof" she left the role.Pay attention to what she says:"Firstly,Kizuna ai who have MY VOICE BUILT IN is and WILL be active with full of energy"But if you are talking about how she treats Kizuna ai as a separate entity from herself thats fine.Also:
https://twitter.com/aichan_nel/status/1253660164961361925
>there is no one to stream
Weird,Ai-chan just streamed some days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_DirG7SU2Y

>> No.10488619

It still amazes me that one bad marketing decision can ruin an entire career like this

>> No.10488631

>>10451036
does she still do pre-recorded let's plays? as non NEET I'd much rather watch a 20 minute video over a 5 hour stream

>> No.10488784

>>10451036
She needs friends. I debut 4 more idols and make a unit with her as the leader. Make them collab all the time in different composition of members to keep things fresh. Double down extra hard on the concerts and music. Make long length content so people can clip you. I would say grabbing her usual skits, format it as some kind of weekly comedy program lasting 1 hour.

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>>10451207
>the future of vtubing is milking superchats from lonely young men
I envy the bastard that figures out how to milk 40 year old lonely women.

>> No.10490266

>>10488409
Is Xi doing something new, or?

>> No.10490403

>>10490204
Fuwa?

>> No.10490514

>>10488619
it was the very beginning of Vtubing. It's unfortunate that her management made mistakes like splitting the AI into clones, switching VAs and not getting into live streaming sooner, but to be fair they were in unexplored waters, and without their work today there'd be no Hololive, Nijisanji, etc.
She was the first vtuber, so I wish her nothing but continued success ganbatte oyabun

>> No.10490584

>>10490266
Restricting content that is against the values of china. They already banned kpop and they are limiting the reach of youtubers.

>> No.10490638

>>10490266
Not that anon, but:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/media/china-cartoon-ban-ultraman-tiga-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/article/3150257/china-seeks-more-curbs-gaming-and-live-streaming-10-year-plan-childrens

https://radiichina.com/china-axes-idol-survival-shows/

The CCP is clamping down on the anime, livestreaming, and idol markets.

>> No.10490839

>>10490584
>>10490638
Heard about the KPOP and gaming, didn't know the rest. I don't know what Jinping's game is, but he seems to be solving the Chinese issue for us.

>> No.10492436

>>10488197
So, China is doing a Japan times 100

>>10490839
Xi's killing markets left and right (he hates virtual and internet-based businesses, as they're "fictional") while in the middle of a financial crisis. Retard move.

>> No.10495506

>>10492436
that's because they imposed that law of one child and the families favored a male

>> No.10495655

>>10492436
ironic saying that virtual/digital markets are fictional considering that the Yuan is massively propped up by the state. If the US could actually pressure China for more than 1 cycle they'd probably collapse hard

>> No.10496793

>>10472034
>>10472222
>>10472284
Slowchaamas Gura loves lolis, she recently uoooohed on stream alongside her fans lol

>> No.10496945

>>10496793
But does she loves being the loli? is she ok with people not caring about her content and only watching her because of her model?

>> No.10497183

>>10490204
Niji figured that out with their “not gay” male pairings, Chronoir even has their own channel because it’s that popular.

>> No.10497553

>>10496945
Yes, the brat encourages it.

>> No.10501582

>>10485146
Her main channel was scripted yes but her gaming channel was 100% her and the reason people stayed loyal to her.

>> No.10503833

>>10490514
On the bright side, thanks to them and gamebu no company will ever try to replace the va again

>> No.10509170

>>10451036
Step 1:stop sucking chink dick
Step 2:collab with hololive

>> No.10517031

>>10496945
Literally how new?

>> No.10517133

>>10451036
Teledildonics

>> No.10517526

>>10517133
Melody isn't that popular anon

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