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The end of an era is almost upon us

>> No.10616713
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>>10616552
the end of v-tubers is the day the U.S army made her own v-tuber

>> No.10616927

>>10616552
netflix made a ripoff of watame and nobody gives a shit anymore, why is this any different?

>> No.10617047

Did that one Netflix "vtuber" ever become a thing and actually do streams?

>> No.10617195

>>10616927
Sony is debuting 50 vtubers, granted it might not be all at once so who knows

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these companies are going to spend so much dough getting their vtubers set up all for the bubble to burst. last thing we need is more corporate bullshit in vtubing

it's actually going to be interesting to watch

>> No.10617514

>>10616552
>Sony
It's going to be generic as fuck or crash and burn almost instantly. I'm betting on the former but surprises are welcome.

>> No.10617608

>>10617195
Sony, like disney, has dropped off a cliff so fast its fucking unreal

>> No.10617714

>>10616552
The thing about Sony is that they can get use their humongous library of music and game material and also deny it to competitors. It's doubtful they'll have any appeal without them leveraging that.

>> No.10617965

>>10617714
oh god ... this will be a disaster
a disaster that interests me to see

>> No.10618219

>>10617714
Don't care about sonyy games. Don't care about globohomo streamers. Would still watch them if they're good. But let's be honest, if any are good then they'll be good despite Sony, not because of it. Sort of like hololive. The chubas themselves will be the ones to make or break the endeavor, and whaling on 50 pulls means that they have the numbers game advantage.

However, auditions are primarily for people residing in Japan, most of which are Japanese. If they debut any en chubas at all, they might not debut enough to get an actual SSR. If they can't beat Niji or Holo on star power, they might not beat them at all.

>> No.10618370

>>10616552
the ironic part of vtubers being a corporate invention is the the success is fully determined on the organic grass roots appeal to the fans
like an election for public office you can dump millions into the promotion and marketing but if the greater population at large thinks youre too fake you're gonna sink like a boulder

>> No.10619388

>>10616713
Fuck no please, dont need an anime girl to remind me how much i regret enlisting

>> No.10620056

>>10616552
So its safe to say when it comes to money Sony would be bigger than Hololive and Nijisanji then?
Not that money would matter in the vtubers popularity but it does mean they would have all the game permissions they want.

>> No.10620100

People are somehow forgetting Sony music is still a huge fucking deal

>> No.10620333

>>10620100
This, they mostly hired god tier singers.

>> No.10620447

>>10620100
That sounds like an nijisanji problem. Rip nijisanji
sony music investment if this a success.

>> No.10620660

>>10616552
Sony got a taste of the profits after investing in Nijisanji and now they want it all for themselves.
Hololive caters to a different audience in Japan compared to Nijisanji so it will probably affect them the least.

>> No.10620688

>>10617714
fuck this shit, vtubing will become exactly like netflix/hbo/disney+ at this rate.
maybe they'll force indies to cough up a few hundred a month to stream their intellectual property too

>> No.10620908

Isn't it too late to jump on the vtubing facade?
Do they really think that investing now would give them easy simp bucks?
I hope this burns.

>> No.10621397

>not able to sell GFE or appeal to coomers
>not able to produce edgy content
Which niche can they fill?

>> No.10621524

>>10620100
If the first Sony waves are successful, then Kamitsuba and niji will be on suicide watch

>> No.10621530

>>10620100
Doesnt Nijis have rights to play Sony music?
Everytime I watch that blonde Niji she is playing licensed music.

>> No.10621757

>>10620100
>muh music
Marine can have shit like Unison get million of viewers. Much like technololgy, music quality isn't the most important part of vtubing. It's still heavily dependent on the personality of the vtubers.

>> No.10622060

>>10621524
Even though Sony invests in Nijisanji, they don't actually contract them for their record label.
A lot of the Nijisanji members who make music are contracted with NBC Universal Entertainment or Virgin Records.

>> No.10622059

>>10616552
Who the fuck cares? Sony is far too incompetent to pull this off. It'll fail completely and be quickly forgotten after a week or two of schadenfreude.

>> No.10622066

>>10617714
If Sony locks out Hololive and Niji and other vtubers just so their own SonyTubers can get the exclusive rights to monetize their games, imagine the backlash. Sony's Vtubers would be seen by the community as supporting an oppressive black company that only cares about profits and not talents.
Also isn't Sony one of those game companies that turned heavily political recently? Won't that turn off a lot of the fanbase? Part of what I like about some vtubers is they don't talk about politics and other stupid shit.

>> No.10622095

>>10617714
Yeahm but the people they hired probably are going to be insufferable twitter/reddit kind and of course they won't be allowed to say anything slightly far from postive about the games they are playing.
It will be pretty souless.

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>>10616552
>Sony
You're like 3 years late

>> No.10624589

If it kills Nijisanji, I'll back Sony.

>>10620908
Also, wouldn't that conflict with their current censorship of anime boobs? Don't they have JPs hating them over that and changing the traditional button confirm to a global standard? Sony would do better just either buying out one of the two big companies and give them perms and music while getting a cut of the profit.

>> No.10624980

>>10621757
>people can't like things that i don't like

>> No.10625139

>>10616713
>US army
I swear this is gonna be the day when vtubers declining and conspiracies BS everywhere

>> No.10625823

>>10616552
>Interestingly, one of these promises regards IP rights for the characters talents will portray, with Sony stating that they “hope to share the rights to your name and character with you in the future”. While this is somewhat vague, it does mean that VTubers should be able to continue as the same character even if they part ways with SMEJ.
That’s ^ from an article on it. I guess you get to keep your character.

>> No.10626030

>Nijisanji will die
Why do you people fail to understand how Sony's backing worked, it was just an allowance to Anycolor.

>> No.10626050

>>10625823
Hope they don't backpedal on it when a lot of their talents graduate after getting a decent fanbase.

>> No.10626074

Sony corporate Vtubers: pissing yourself in anger

Cover corporate Vtubers: sucks Yagoo’s dick any chance you get

>> No.10626152

>>10626074
Sony might censor things even more. It’s not like they haven’t censored their games.

>> No.10626175

>>10616552
Don’t they own a portion of Nijisanji already?

>> No.10626178

>>10624589
The vtrubers are under Sony Music Entertainment Japan, not Sony Interactive Entertainment. SIE are the ones who are censoring Playstation.

>> No.10626562

>>10626178
>vtrubers are under Sony Music Entertainment Japan
>I could get a chuuba to sing some of my favorite songs.
>They won't because they are old songs and Sony will probably want them to hype new ones.

>> No.10626811

Vee Pig seems like a bad name.

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>>10623838
this, spoilers don't get invested the story won't end well...

>> No.10627094

doesn't matter because this is all JP only anyway.

>> No.10627105

>>10622066
Sony think they own the world when they won against xbox, and they've become a dick ever since

>> No.10627206

>>10616713
I don't want /pol/ to cross post here for fuck sake.

>> No.10627291

>>10624589
Niji has a few people under Sony's music label though

>> No.10627661

>>10627206
I don't want reddit to cross post on this whole site

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>>10625823
It is a pretty good deal for Indies really, honestly any Indie should try and get in even they don't have the skills or have the intent to keep working under them.

>be 2view indie with maybe a decent model
>have enough skills and qualities to be picked in Sony's music group
>have Sony promote and advertise you on their platform
>receive a, presumably, good paycheck for your time
>leave you've got all you can take or when it starts looking like you can't handle their requirements
>have your old numbers be boosted from the exposure, maybe even keeping all the audience you got during your stint under Sony since you didn't have to reincarnate

Easy money. The only way I can see Sony having some way of having some ownership if its like with Suisei and that they have the vtuber get a new model similar to their original one.

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>>10627206

>> No.10628619

>>10627763
If Sony flushes out the VRchat cancer in western vtubing, then hail corporate

>> No.10628698

>>10617714
>>10616552
Can't wait for Nijiniggers to get a taste of their own medicine, and you know the japs will lick it up like good little bugs. This is going to cause a vtuber dark age.

>> No.10628822

>>10616713
>U.S. ARMY ESCORTS
>>10619388
Really? What happened?

>> No.10630637

>>10621530
Holo also have them, anon. One of Suisei's latest cover, that civilian song is Sony's property. Most Japanese songs are licensed through Jasrac, most chuba companies has this license.

>> No.10630797

>>10627291
Just Mito so far.

>> No.10630906

>>10628698
>This is going to cause a vtuber dark age.
In Japan maybe

>> No.10631109

>>10627661
I'd take reddit over /pol/ since the latter are fucking drama queens.

>> No.10631424

/vt/ opinions don't matter you cringe little shit

>> No.10631625

On top of /vt/ having no clue on Anykara and Sony's relationship it makes no sense for Sony to do anything that might cut that tie. On top of being backed by a company like Sony they'll have to network and do collabs too, even if it's singers. Working with Anykara and even Cover if they can pull it off makes much more sense.

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oh no bros, we are doomed

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>>10627206
Too late, the superior race is here

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>>10627206
newfag

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>>10616552
>Sony

>> No.10632170

>>10617714
biggest losers here would be niji if Sony decides that to happen.

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>>10616713
I have a list of all of their roomates already

>> No.10632403

That shit is for JPs right? They will just end up playing Apex and MC anyway, BUT under snoy!

>> No.10632443

I'm not sure if you guys are aware of "22/7", they use sony tech and their models are prety great

>> No.10632541

>>10621757
Unison is one of the best songs in Hololive

>> No.10632566

>>10632170
For the last fucking time Sony does not own Nijisanji they just invest in them like any other company. Just because Sony has other ventures planned doesn't mean they'll pull out of the 2nd (or whatever) biggest vtubing company considering the hundreds of other companies Nijisanji has ties with.

>> No.10632859

>>10620688
This seems most likely scenario and it sucks. And we all know Sony can drown out competition with massive advertisement campaigns. Oh well, as long as 2 view indies survive, I will have something to watch.

>> No.10632942

>>10616552
Good.

>> No.10632989

>>10627206
How new?

>> No.10633194

>>10621524
Kamitsubaki will be fine, they are involved in art scene in general and have a loyal core following.

>> No.10633284

>>10620688
Eh indies can just go around that shit and not bother with anything Sony related

>> No.10633565

>>10616927
Spoonfeed pls

>> No.10633612

I mean, you'd think a half-competent company with a lot of money could easily blow the competition out of the water.

>> No.10633655

>>10616552
Fuck off arch, your pol baiting fucked over warhammer. the last thing vtubing needs is polshit getting mainstream media attention on chubas

>> No.10633662

>>10616552
G-GURA KILLER

>> No.10633676

>>10616552
>a trend started by corporations
>"hey this is cool"
>another corporation joins in
>"oh fuck it's too corporate now"
Some people never fail to amaze me.

>> No.10633802

>>10616552
Hololive gonna get block for playing any Sony game, let's fucking gooooo!

>> No.10633803

>>10633676
When Corpo I like does it then it's fine.

>> No.10633986

>>10616552
>Sony makes vtubing mainstream with massive promotions for their vtubers
>"hmm there are other vtubers?"
>"woah hololive is amazing, especially this funny shark!"
>mainstream audiences flood to Hololive
Yagoo wins again

>> No.10633988

>>10625823
>“hope to share the rights to your name and character with you in the future”
>share your rights
Imagine your oshi losing her model if it ever turns sour

>> No.10634121

I wonder if any of their talents will be auto copyright struck by a youtube bot.

>> No.10634136

>>10625823
That's how it should be. The IP isn't worth anything, anyway. The streamer can just create a new character when they leave, and the old one would be useless. May as well just give the character to them, at that point.

>> No.10634235

>>10634121
Don't worry, Susan will ensure safety of big corporate buddies interests

>> No.10634263

>>10634235
They can't even run their own side. I would keep an eye out for something like this.

>> No.10634280

>>10633986
>woah hololive is amazing, especially this funny shark!
This is a real cope. When given the choice, mainstream will never choose Holo just because they're the least entertaining chuubas in the entire industry.
In reality, mainstream first will go to Sony, check them out, then will go to whoever Sony's chuubas are collabing with. And you'll be a massive retard if you think they will ever collab with Holo.

>> No.10634553

>>10627661
That's too bad, I'll still post here.

>> No.10634598

>>10617714
If they're good i'll watch, fuck brand hate and loyalty.
entertained or bored indifference that's it for me.

>> No.10634708

>>10632258
Calli would fit in.

>> No.10634759

>>10633803
>When Corpo I like does it then it's fine.
Capitalists in one sentence.

>> No.10634792

>>10633662
ah shit, you just cursed them.

>> No.10635023

>>10634759
And a proud one.

>> No.10635050

hololive and nijisanji are corporate vtubers
even the godmother Ai is a corporate vtuber...

>> No.10635068

>>10635023
You probably think you're anti-China, too.

>> No.10635293

>>10635068
It's called west taiwan, zhang

>> No.10635354

>>10635293
>we're totally not the ones who've always been at war with Eurasia, guys!

>> No.10635414

>>10635354
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>> No.10635492

Seems like a waste of time to me
most people are just going to stick with their oshi

>> No.10635521

>>10634280
Hololive is already mainstream you dumbass. Stop being delusional

>> No.10635523

>>10635414
You think China would just shut off my internet if I saw this on a Chinese network?

>> No.10635583

wait until mihoyo create their own vtuber agency and predates hololive

>> No.10635680

>>10633662
Thanks anon!

>> No.10635710

>>10616713
Didn't PLA(chinese army) made a promotion video with vtuber and chinese fans were mad because their hobby got political? Or maybe i remembered wrong.

>> No.10635714

>>10623838
Tis a sad tale. Can you sing this once again bard of the past?

>> No.10635916

>>10635583
wasn't there a whole gymnasium of ugly chinese women practicing cutesy face in a face recognition machine? i swear i saw it on this board.

>> No.10635946

>>10635710
Not the army, the Chinese government did it and cut it off quickly after because they were getting questions like "what do you think about the taiwan situation" and stuff that they couldn't answer and also because people were mocking it for being a "how do you do, fellow kids" move.

>> No.10635963

>>10635583
>predates
I don't think you know what that word means

>> No.10636151

>>10635521
>Hololive is already mainstream
You sure about that? For me it looks like it's actually you, who's being delusional.
An actual mainstream is when you login into a clean twitter or clean yt account and you see them everywhere. It's not the case for Holo, hence they are not mainstream.
Seeing them around just because algo remembered your preferences is not mainstream.
A couple of big names mentioning Holo a couple of times is not a mainstream either.

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>>10616713
>U.S army made her own v-tuber
>it's a niggress

>> No.10636375

>>10636151
>n actual mainstream is when you login into a clean twitter or clean yt account and you see them everywhere.
You stupid or something?

>> No.10636455

>>10634280
>In reality, mainstream first will go to Sony, check them out, then will go to whoever Sony's chuubas are collabing with.
That's why Netflix's vtuber is so popular r-right? I mean, Netflix is mainstream enough.

>> No.10636474

>>10636375
Seethe much? I know, it's hard to acknowledge that your favorite chuubas are nothing, but retards, pumped up with YT algo and bots. Nothing to do with mainstream.
Now, please, cope more about other people being stupid, without even knowing that you're stupid yourself.

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>>10623838
She is back bros

>> No.10636512

>>10636455
>Netflix is mainstream
You said it yourself. Netflix is. Netflix chuubas are not. Or are you retarded enough to think that everything related to Netflix will magically become a mainstream too?

>> No.10636558

>>10636512
>Netflix is. Netflix chuubas are not
By that logic, what makes you think Sony Music's vtubers will be mainstream?

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>>10616552
>Fuck sony!

>> No.10636589

>>10636501
What pottery is this?

>> No.10636696

>>10636558
It wasn't me, saying that they will become mainstream.
The only thing I said is how mainstream masses would behave.
But again, Sony Music's situation is not the same as Netflix.
Netflix created their chuuba with only 1 goal in mind - to advertise Netflix and it's products.
Sony Music's chuubas are an entire standalone project with a goal of creating successful chuubas who would be able to compete with current chuubas. Not saying that it's guaranteed to become a mainstream, but they have much better chances than Holo and especially Netflix.

>> No.10637044

>>10616552
Oh you want permissions?
Then collab with our V tuber for X hours each month and you will get them.

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>>10616552
>ENTER
>Sony killer

>> No.10637108 [DELETED] 

>>10616552
we share the rights =/= you own your character

>> No.10637169

>>10616552
disgustang

>> No.10641281

>>10633565
anon. Just use Google. Literally, just search "Netflix vtuber".

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>>10627206
nothing personel kid

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My oshi is also a corporate vtuber. I hope they can get along with Sony vtubers.

>> No.10643019

>>10622066
It will also big chance for Nintendo or even Microsoft.

>> No.10643188

>>10617714
if sony locks all sony owned anison(everything by aniplex and more) and start sending C&Ds for unarchived karaoke i wonder how the jap fanbase will take it

>> No.10644118

>>10628822
Lost my leg, now my oishi will never love me, also this goverment shutdown will prob leave me honeless

>> No.10644180

>>10632258
Met top right irl, fucking terrible CO

>> No.10644507

>>10643188
Disaster.

Honestly, I don't see the merit for Sony to lock their stuff from their competitors, especially for untested ground. Sure Sony did have successful chuba before, but they never stay as long as their competitors, Luna is dead now and 22/7 is just wasted potential.
People were also doom posting Holos when bushiroad released their chuba, and look at them now, Bushiroad still sponsor Holos while there chuba have less than 10k subs.

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>Sony starts using it's limitless money supply to entice and poach top talents from Holo and Niji. Offer them 7 figure contracts to jump ship and take as much of their audience as they can.

Who would do it? Pekora for sure. She has the hugest audience, giving her huge negotiating power, and she's been bitching about overwork and would likely love a jump from a small black company to a giant megacorp for a huge payday. Plus there's probably tons of Sony games she wants to play and wouldn't have to fight for permissions to do so anymore.

Coco would probably hop on board too, given that her "creative freedom" reason for leaving amounted to being able to show her tits and cooch on stream. As long as she fights for the right to be able to do cosplay and IRL stuff, she would probably work under a huge brand name again.

On the EN side, Gura may be less likely than the two above, but she has complained about management overreach before, and being the most subber VTuber with a previous life that also reached 1M subs, she would have the biggest negotiating position, and her contract with Hololive was up once a year passed AFAIK.

If those three alone jumped ship, sony would have the power triad of Live viewers, Gachikoi money, and Sub numbers off the bat. Who would be able to stop them at that point?

>> No.10645807

Sony Music Japan is not Sony Interactive Entertainment (Playstation) and owns numerous anime properties. They just share a name send their stock dividends to the same Japanese corporation.

Just getting that out there before people bring up American politics.

>> No.10645921

>>10616552
When is the debut?

>> No.10645962

>>10645617
why the FUCK would you think fucking megacorpo sony would gave them more freedom.
have you even seen sony's game nowadays? goddamn you are so absolutely dumb, holy shit man

>> No.10645991

>>10644180
You're cute and valid af, hon!

>> No.10645992

>>10645617
I hope you realize that Hololive still owns their characters, they aren't gonna get their full fanbase in unless you meant Kson instead.

>> No.10646166

>>10645992
I was gonna say that Suisei actually could and has the most reasons since she's primarily focused on music, but then I remembered she lost the model of her original design from before joining Hololive due to forgetting to save them before she rebooted her PC.

>> No.10646377

>>10623838
>>10626947
Press F to pay respects

>> No.10646617

>>10627105
>won against Xbox
More like Xbox defeated itself for literally no reason.

>> No.10647266

It’s literally just another example of a big corp throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. There comes a point where some corps have so much money that they can afford do start projects like that and if it works, good and if not, oh well it’s a drop in the ocean in terms of capital loss and it was worth a shot. What is clear is that their marketing WILL be god tier. They will be shoved into big events, especially since it’s a Japanese project. You will see them on TV and on billboards, that is guaranteed. I don’t see them streaming that much though, I doubt they will all be streaming full-time on Youtube. They are meant to be an actual idol group, not a fake one like Hololive. They are filling a different nice.

>> No.10647304

>>10647266
I meant niche* my bad.

>> No.10647305
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10647305

>>10616713
I prefer the Marines

>> No.10647551
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10647551

>>10622066
Not only have they gone heavily political in the past few years, but they've also turned their back on their Japanese market for the most part and have been involved in some of the most baffling censorship we've seen from a major console manufacturer in a while.
Commiefornia was a mistake.

>> No.10647843

>>10647551
>>10645807

>> No.10647855

>>10647266
>What is clear is that their marketing WILL be god tier
As far as I know Sony Pictures currently holds the record for most money spent on a feature film's marketing campaign: 288 million USD for Spider-Man Far From Home.

>> No.10647935

>>10616552
Arch on /vt/
Fucking KEK

>> No.10648024

>>10627206
They're like a cancer on 4chan that's metastisized to every board

>> No.10648061

>>10627661
Reddit is cringe but /pol/ is pure lunacy

>> No.10648523

>>10645617
>coco would go from the smaller corp to the megacorp
based retard

>> No.10649317

>>10621757
Unison is one of few genuinely interesting songs that have come out of Hololive. Thank god not all of them are pushing out generic jpop shit where you can barely distinguish between different songs because they're all basically the same, down to the corny lyrics.

>> No.10649392

>>10645962
>>10645807

>> No.10649879

>>10647266
This is why I think that if they do actually do well its will be because they bring in a new audience that isn't really invested in vtubers or only have a passing interest. Basically bringing in JOP normalfags. Its far to late to try and compete with the big names like Niji or Hololive because actual fans already have their loyalties and are very unlikely to just jump ship to the Sony vtubers. The Japanese aren't as flakey as EOP's who will pretty much always move on to the next shiny new thing.
>>10647266
Good thing at least somebody understands this. People always just think of Sony as just being one solitary entity controlled by Californians which simply isnt the case. Its as if massive companies have multiple branches or something. Crazy.

>> No.10650042

>>10627206
> he lacks critical information
They could be any one of us anon

>> No.10650174

>>10623838
who dat?

>> No.10650420

>>10621397
social justice crowd

>> No.10650433

>>10633988
In IP law, "sharing rights" means co-ownership where you can do whatever you want, but if others want to use your IP, they also have to get Sony to agree. It's looking like a rpoundabout anti-poaching, non-complete clause.

>> No.10650534

>>10621757
>he didn’t like unison

>> No.10650570

>>10649879
>The Japanese aren't as flakey as EOP's who will pretty much always move on to the next shiny new thing.
WHAT?

>> No.10650885

>>10650570
He's talking about audience retention, anon. He's saying that even Japanese normies will commit to watching something long term if they like it enough, as opposed to western audiences which tend to be more fickle.

>> No.10651646

>>10649879
Exactly. These vtubers aren’t meant to compete with Hololive, Niji or fuck even indies. They’re meant to be pushed to a much, much bigger audience. It might even be beneficial to our vtubing scene/community because the normies who get introduced to the whole “real person plays a character behind a virtual avatar” concept might start flowing to actual vtubers. The gap between them and vtubers will have become much narrower.

>> No.10652129

>>10616713
depends have they forgotten their embarrassing debut on twitch e-sports.
Those poor souls legit got assblasted so hard in the chat...

>> No.10652228

>>10650433
damn that's kinda smart, but also very dick move.

but then again, it doesn't stop from rebranding. Well-managed switch-over would cause very minimal visibility loss.

>> No.10652622

>>10645807
The main corporate HQ is still in California, and they introduced the "These depictions were wrong then and they are wrong now" screen to Japanese television over a Rockman.EXE rerun that had Tomahawk Man in it. They're just as bad, and ignoring them won't make them go away.

>> No.10652701
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10652701

>>10616552
>corporate vtubers are a new thing
Holy mother of newfags.

>> No.10652769

They're gonna be about as big of a deal as VShojo. Maybe. At a push.

>> No.10653092

>>10652769
VShojo is as massive as Hololive in the west.

>> No.10653183

>>10652622
No, main cooperate HQ is in Minato, Tokyo.

>> No.10653362

burgers really think Sony is an american company? kek

>> No.10653470

>>10622095
You do realize they're all Japanese?

>> No.10653741

Sony is such a shit company I feel sorry for any vtuber joining them

>> No.10653825

>>10653362
I don't think anyone who knows how companies work thinks this. In fact, no one in this thread claimed Sony was an American company. Most just mistake corporate structure and think that their main HQ moved to the west, but that isn't surprising given how much of Sony's business is primarily headquartered in the US.

>> No.10653831

>>10652622
>they introduced the "These depictions were wrong then and they are wrong now" screen to Japanese television over a Rockman.EXE rerun that had Tomahawk Man in it
How anyone can claim Sony isn't completely dominated by californian globohomo is beyond me.

>> No.10653964

>>10622066
It's Sony Music you fucking retard. They can't do anything related to SIE games.

>> No.10653968

>>10621757
unison is one of the best vtuber songs quality wise u moron

>> No.10654593

>>10653362
Sony has been increasingly relinquinshing power to their california branch because in their heads, they know the market better
It's precious how tall you talk about "knowing companies" when you are completely ignorant about this very public well known fact
Dumb ethot simp

>> No.10654643

It will be business as usual for Hololive and other smaller agencies, Niji is fucked though considering their previous deals with Sony.
I wonder if they will just end up dissolving and most of their talent just moving there, if they haven't poached them already that is.

>> No.10654806

>>10654643
What? I thought Sony just made an investment into them? What would this have to do with that?

>> No.10655257

>>10654806
Sony practices EA's version of market growth. It's absurd how many people take their money without realizing the shitshow they're in for.

>> No.10656103

>>10635963
Welcome to english where the same word can not only have multiple meanings but also pronunciations.
Predate
prēˈdāt to exist before something
prəˈdāt act as a predator

>> No.10656409

>>10623838
I came here to post Luna.
I miss her yelling at me in MAX VOLUME in run-on sentences and occasionally devolving to gibberish.

>> No.10657578

Look at the bright side guys 50 people will have a job, be happy for them.

>> No.10657990
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10657990

>>10657578
>implying having a job is a good thing

>> No.10658922

>>10616552
>can play any sony game they want
>can sing any sony music they want
Ok. This is epic.

>> No.10660532

>>10657578
Most of them already have job before Sony.
I doubt Sony will recruit your garden variety neet for their project.

>> No.10660878

>>10655257
Implying Sony vtubers going to last more than a year before their talents having breakdown or outright abandoned.

>> No.10662720

>>10616552
Sony couldn't handle two vtubers years ago, how the fuck are they gonna handle 50 now?

>> No.10662810

>>10656103
Who the fuck doesn't use "preys on"?

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