IM BACK BITCHES!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Congrat her anons

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
GODDAMIT P*MARU 3D IS LIVE?
SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAN MY NOTIFICATIONS YOU BITCH !

[Anonymous No.]

95k unreal and it keeps going up !

https://youtu.be/JVItBIkQPGQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
welcome back queen

[Anonymous No.]

welcome back

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
It’s really good

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
qrd on her? Apparently she's kind of a big deal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636515
The Nijis and Aichan bow down to P*maru
Bankrolled SONY

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636515
She's gonna be the most subbed Vtuber by next week

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636515
>>10636553
I haven't heard anything about it, it's Luna's reincarnation or something?

[Anonymous No.]

Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636575
and this one actually deserves it and worked for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636585
No Pmaru existed before Luna, and after SONY fucked her she went back

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a one time thing or is she back into vtubing again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636608
>3D debut
what do you think anon? use ur brains

[Anonymous No.]

It's too bad she won't ever go back to being Luna, I really liked her design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636704
It's okay we have her little sister now

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636704
her outfit was nice, but this new model is prettier

[Anonymous No.]

>Goes back to the cringe old style of vtubing that was based around skits
No thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636724
While I like Bae, her design isn't as good desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636738
You don't know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636724
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

"MINNA SAN OBOETERU?"

YES YES YES
I REMEMBER EVERY THING!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636782

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636764
This was peak design and peak vtubing. There's tens to hundread of chuubas copying and inspire by her. Sony would never re-created her and Pmaru enter the scene to kill sony's upcoming hoes

[Anonymous No.]

>that distinct sound when she screams

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636601
Huh, I didn't realise she was inactive as Luna because of Sony, that sucks. Good to hear that she's able to continue regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

god her voice is still sex incarnate
captcha: AAAWW

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331

Literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

Cute

>>10636814
Not a fan of the boob window

[Anonymous No.]

There's no way this is the same Luna/Pmaru
Where did she get this confidence? she was a fucking mess in 3D lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuWaenUR7lM

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636862
>boob

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636881
45 million views on your original song will give confidence to anyone anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636881
You never watched her concert anon

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand how this song became a hit, but I'm glad that it did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636881
I guess this confirms that it was Sony fucking with her, probably by telling her to act in a certain way.

[Anonymous No.]

it's amazing seeing her on stage like she is in the song's MV

[Anonymous No.]

She did it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636992
Nothing less from the Queen

[Anonymous No.]

I really hope all future disussion of her won't be tainted by numberniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
Agreed, nijinigger is the worst offender in that regard

[Anonymous No.]

What was the December announcement anons? I'm assuming it is a live concert but is there any specifics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
That's all she'll get you already know, remember /vt/ was created because HL got too popular around the release of EN, most anons here that aren't exodus don't even know 1st wave VTbuers forget the four kings era.

She will be numbers bait, but that's fine as long as she is still respected properly she deserves this

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637074
両国国技館

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637146
Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
What else is she good for

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
>thanks for all the money see you next year

[Anonymous No.]

Can we bring back the old school kino now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPnwZUMckE

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
LU-LUNA SAMA!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637133
>when you realize a lot of ppl here are zoomers who only know about the third wave..
feelsbadman

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
Just go to /jp/ anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637303
Ok Boomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637266
I immediately go back to this after the show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637343
I'm gonna rewatch HimeHina

[Anonymous No.]

can anyone tell me how or at which point in time did she start getting popular? I thought she's already an established utaite way long before luna but turned out she just started a year before

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637492
thank the doxxfags for pointing the way to her old account

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637411
Which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
anonchama, are you fucking late? Kaguya Luna vs Kizuna numberfaggotry is as old as the virtual youtuber thread has existed

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637637
valentine's day special of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSdRrJ1lkzc

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637324
not him but get back to your homework faggot

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad she is back and kicking ass. I hope she continues to grow herself in this area, she clearly has a lot of fun with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
be prepared for the upcoming holo vs pmaru numbers retaliation then, holobronies can't discern bait after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637571
>thank the doxxfags
she literally stated in a book she recently published that she's Luna and revealed her not-so pleasant experiences while working with Sony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637695
I hope she keeps mogging holos and humbles them

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
I missed her.
I am happy she is back and is having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637492
She wasnt entirely an utaite. Only after Luna. She was a youtuber making short skits like she still do these days. Her video got viral and people been following her since. Later sony scouted her, became Luna, people learned Luna = Pmaru, both got massive jump in sub. But in her case, her Pmaru's contents were way more funnier and popular than her persona as Kaguya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637721
oh lord and they are starting a huge vtuber agency..

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637721
>and revealed her not-so pleasant experiences while working with Sony.
Any english translated material on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637721
>>10637785
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637766
>Later sony scouted her, became Luna
Luna started as an indie project that was later bought by a company, similar to Akari

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637909
I will still never forgive Akari's company for deleting Eilene's old videos. They didnt even bother archiving them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637721
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637909
Low and behold both went to shit, except Luna was smart enough to find a loop hole while Akari was retarded and her new model and videos are souless husk of her former self

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637909
>>10638032
>lesson
Never sell your soul to a bloodsucking souless black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637847
>>10637721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRFU2SyCCF8
say what you will about the man but even HE was shitting on SONY MUSIC, they seem to not be trusted and are shady in their dealings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636724
PPH...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638129
literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637766
At first Luna was more popular than Pmaru, but it went downhill the moment they introduced her fucking annoying mascot and pushed for the idol angle, it was also around that time that Pmaru restarted her account and got better numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637721
What happened?
It took her a few years to recover from it, she must have been overworked by a group of psychopathic suits...

This is the result of decades of negative central bank interest rates and money printing creating a massive group of zombie companies where psychopaths can keep and abuse their power when it should have resulted in a bankruptcy under normal conditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636724
Mika's last hope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636587
>>10636591
>>10636750
>>10636854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8QT4ddNmdM
I hope fan captions come back. Youtube disallowing it literally killed the 1st wave's popularity in the west

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638395
>Making vidya potraying anon
Instant sub and i fucking kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638129
>all that cheering while he was being serious
i wonder if they really understood what MJ was saying there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638251
Man.. thinking back, the corpo at that time was really fucking terrible and the talent funded ones like Siro's .LIVE were fucking mess. Thank god start up like Cover and Anykara can keep their soul and didnt went souless like Activ8 when they got big. They can become a good example for other startups to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638596
Cover's and Anycolor's success is due to them basically being start ups, older men only know numbers and trends, YAGOO and Riku basically experimenting is what is their saving grace, they both know there is no "standard" for VTubing yet and trying to mold one so early in it's lifespan (roughly 5 years) while new shit is still happening is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638688
That's what im saying. Activ8 was also a startup run by people with passion. But welp look at them now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638688
It also helps to be lucky, and good god are Cover lucky, and scouting that has landed way more hits than you'd expect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638129
Michael Jackson didn't diddle any kids. Also fuck SONY

[Anonymous No.]

Why was シル・ヴ・プレジデント such a popular song?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzFHWjf7ymQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638730
Wasn't Upd8 the one that bears all the sins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBW6soj4nM
Cover is a black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639407
It's catchy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639492
>>10639614
Sony will take over Nijisanji and half of its members will retire in protest any day now right

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
I'm so happy she's back

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639614
>>10639492
Are people still gullible enough to believe a low-life grifter who is being sued in court? He already showed how morally bankrupt he was over the Roa incident. In that case I have a bridge to sell.

[Anonymous No.]

>urusai?
>GOMENEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
always happy about chuubas coming back

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636724
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639614
Strike 2 Naru don't make it be the 3rd...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639805
It does not make a difference when both are black companies.
The vtubers working for such a company understand their position as a wage slave.
That's why their interactions feel fake and Coco's graduation stream was more like a moment of truth for the reality behind the "friendly Hololive family".

[Anonymous No.]

Legit shed a tear when I saw her having fun. Super happy for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639886
Keep being in denial even if it costs the happiness of the vtubers and their fans.
The suits making profits from this thank you for your service.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639950
Nah, you are the one in denial because you don't want to admit you fell for a proven grifter. We have track records and now court records. You have head in sand.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640233
Tsuki-chan...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639917
Imagine being this naive. Nene, Gura, Amelia and Ina are having the time of their lives. Nene tried for it multiple times and wouldn't trade her place for anything. Ina even recommended her pals to get into it. Amelia's life was changed and she constantly gushes about it.

The fakest thing about Coco's graduation was Gura having to promise to play Ark when she was still half-asleep. Other than that her life is golden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639889
except that she doesn't want to be a chuuba anymore. This 3D might be a change of heart but I doubt it. Might be a one-off concert to shill her merch but who knows

[Anonymous No.]

It's so nice to see my original oshi in 3D again, and 60 FPS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636704
Blame Sony and Vic for that
https://twitter.com/p_ma_ru/status/1443558979309748232

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640458
that's just a short-lived dream anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637303
you're 2 years late on that one, fella

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636750
>Goes back to the cringe old style of vtubing that was based around skits
The golden age of youtubers, until a shitty 2D goblin ruined everything. As if you can tell about good content

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640558
>>10640558
Tsukino Mito is the greatest zatsudan and story Teller ever. Not her fucking fault talentless whore cannot emulate her and just stream minecraft 24hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640517
Not really. Gura knows she could go her own way if she wishes, and be even more successful than kson. She publicly admits it as knowing she has power over management and her opinion matters. If the deal becomes bad for her Gura will just go back to being a blue gremlin. But for now the deal is great for her.

[Anonymous No.]

Another has been who people will get bored of once the hype dies off

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640639
>Not her fucking fault
It is her fault. Her "style" is now the norm in the fad and the rise of hololive was because of copying that format

[Anonymous No.]

My first oshi. The one I followed way before I got into the early days of Hololive

Welcome back

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640787
Anyone was bound to discover live streaming with a cheaper home avatar. Without Mito it would have just been another vtuber. It is the progress of commoditization for the industry that couldn't be halted

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640942
Indies like the tenmakinin were already doing that before the washing machine livestream. Deflect all you want, but the main architect of the absolute state of the fad and all the negative things is (and ever will be) the clover eating goblin

[Anonymous No.]

>>10641100
I don't care for Mito. My point is that the discovery is not that unique. If it hadn't been her, it would have been another person. That means blaming her or that other person would only miss the trend of commoditization that has happened to virtually every human industry in history. Home streaming, games, singing .... These are all no-brainers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640756
yeah. for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637721
Sony has destroyed 2 good attempts to create vtubers. They destroyed 22/7 chances to become a true virtual idol unit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b6C4qVuzVo

If they weren't this incompetent. The Kotodama tribe would be here

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639805
>Sony will take over Nijisanji
Sony is doing businesses with Niji. Mito signed a record contract with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10641383
This is that idol that got viral on twitter back in the day for her perfect english, right?
Man, she is so fucking cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10641631
yes, and Sony ruined it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/yiVGudcnsAg

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640942
Just like how a lot of content creators switched to making podcasts instead of creating content when it turned out that it cost less and was easier to produce. A sad reality indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

She seems interesting so could someone sell me on her ? What's her good points ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10642144
watch her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>10641232
You should probably refrain from taking their shitposts too seriously. Whatever you say they will keep spouting the same things. Anyone could see these things in the horizon back then from the shift to streaming to the corps pushing idol culture onto the world of V. Making videos required far more thought and effort compared to the average live stream. It doesn't help that despite the higher effort; live streaming was able to competitively perform and later outperform video content. Though that is not to say streaming is all bad it is just that the majority of content tends to shift to the lowest common denominator like waffling while playing games much like regular streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10642423
>You should probably refrain from taking their shitposts too seriously.
I wasn't shitposting when I said la goblina ruined everything. The golden era of vtubers truly ended with her debut and things will never be the same.

[Anonymous No.]

Sony ruined and let go of this talent? and they are planning to have their own agency...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10642720
They are not very good at managing things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10642720
From the rumour that I heard about how they run their company, it's a miracle that the whole company still survives today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10642720
>Me
good dancing and she has charisma for stage performances. holomems, please take your dance lessons seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637695
>I'm glad she is back
She never left. Just like Kson never left when Kiryu Coco debuted

[Anonymous No.]

>>10638032
Eilene, what happened to your school of vtubers? Oh that's right, they graduated some days ago!

[Anonymous No.]

who the fuck is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636575
Lol
Lmao
She's not taking down Gura m8
Hate to break it to you
Gura has both JP and international fanbases behind her. She's a monster

[Anonymous No.]

>>10642718
They are delusional, they think the scene would naturally migrate to streaming when none of the big names before Nijisanji did regular streaming and it was mostly done by indies who couldn't afford 3D models, the only "big" names that did regular streaming during that era were Sora and Noracat, if the goblin hadn't become popular the scene would just follow Ai-chan with the video format (see gameclub and omegasis) and the more experimental stuff that indies did (see Karte and Merry)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643119
you said it yourself, gura panders to international fanbases while pmaru doesn't and still has millions of subs.

now imagine if pmaru pandered to en's.
chumbuds on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636419
What did her final numbers top out at?

[Anonymous No.]

So this lady mogged all of nijisanji having 2m subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643435
She is practically Kizuna Ai tier, so nothing new there.

[Anonymous No.]

I FUCKING MISSED THIS BITCH. THE RETURN OF THE QUEEN.

[Anonymous No.]

You think she's going to hang out with AI-Chan again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643332
see >>10637853

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639500
Activ8 created Upd8, but they failed to make it into something like Hololive or Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

My very first oshi, the memories...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640458
>>10640756
Keep coping holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643572
We have to wait and see. I see more feasible P-maru doing things with Kson or Yoruno Neon at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

So now that a chuuba with 2m subs entered the ranks, another wall nijisanji have to climb. How do we cope from this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643221
Are you implying that without Nijisanji, Hololive wouldn't become as successful as it is today?

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder that fuck sony

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643604
Same.... desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643584
Anon, Gura's new outfit stream hit 197k live viewers
Do you even like Pmaru, or do you just want her to get higher numbers than Hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643762
Hololive was a direct response to Nijisanji, you fucking newfag, same apply to Idolbu

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643435
She was once one of the four heavenly queens, so yeah, no duh she is gonna pull numbers on her first stream
now the question is if she can keep them

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643762
Hololive copied a formula that brought them success, and it was not the first time. Tokino Sora was their response to the rise of Kizuna Ai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640233
>950
>>>10639614
>>>10639492
the whole thread is very sad to read. I hope she can slowly resume her activities at her own pace...

[Anonymous No.]

Man I can't wait to see more "GURA MOGGED" spam posted all over /vt/ by /jp/ tourists

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644129
She already did. It's inevitably to compare this to what happened to Kson/Kiryu Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644156
Not everybody is that bogeyman you fear so much, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643221
Holy shit what an idiot.
Do you seriously think videos that require direction and budget and planning can compete with the natural ease and intimacy of home streaming? What a fucking retard. The economy alone dictates that eventually home streaming would rule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643959
Sora was practically an indie project, Sora and Shiro had similar circumstances of having their models and equipment provided by a company but otherwise they were left to feed for themselves because vtubers were not considered a real thing back then and they had to do everything on their own

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644253
No one cares about your holo, brony.
I hope P-maru will never do shit meme reviews while stuffing herself with pizza and showing her 3d butt crack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644311
>natural ease and intimacy of home streaming
Oh yes the natural intimacy of 500 people playing the same goddamned trendy game and reacting almost the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639886
>Are people still gullible enough to believe a low-life grifter who is being sued in court?
He's winning all cases they put against him anon. NARUGOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644371
Learn to read, I was talking about black companies taking advantage of breakthrough talents. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644311
You know that normal youtubers that edit their own videos exist, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644297
There is clearly at least one of that type of person in this thread. There are also plenty of people over on /jp/ who strongly resent the fact that an American woman who can't speak Japanese but works for a Japanese company is the most popular Vtuber in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10639886
>Are people still gullible enough to believe a low-life grifter who is being sued in court?
That's a forced meme being pushed by Virtual Buddha and his sockpuppet accounts. Buddha was the one who DMCA'd his channel in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644588
>is the most popular Vtuber in the world.
Eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644684
>narukami is a forced meme
>virtual buddha is a forced meme
th-they are...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644829
Sorry, anon-sama. I'm retarded. I meant "highest subscribed on Youtube", not "most popular in the world".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10644958
The content of both is just regurgitating 5ch rats

[Anonymous No.]

>>10645039
Oh, Ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643860
>>10643959
I'm aware Sora was the response to Ai. I'm just used to using the word Hololive and Cover as the same thing. I understand perhaps Idolbu replicating Nijisanji since Siro wasn't regularly streaming but wouldn't Cover eventually expand their talents?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643245
>suicide
call me when Pmaru can talk fluent English and now the West culture. Oh thats right she can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>10645347
Not really, it is always the same (even it is the idolbu formula)
>debuts as 2d
>rise in numbers thanks to memes and streams
>gets 3d
>gets stalled until next generation debuts
>rinse and repeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643847
they are just nijiniggers desperate Apex numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10645761
>imagine wanting to court the EOP and the spic market

[Anonymous No.]

>>10645347
>Sora was the response to Ai
Again with this shit, companies weren't a real thing back then, there wasn't someone to give a "respond", Sora was just a fan of vtubers and wanted to be one, just like Shiro was a fan of Ai-chan and wanted to be like her, and just like Noja was a fan of loli foxgirls and wanted to be one

[Anonymous No.]

>>10637029
Just dont reply. Please. Look at the LAMEy anti thread yesterday, you probably dont even know it exists becauae it dies way too fast since Yukimins didnt bite the bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10645824
Okay now I can agree somewhat. I forgot that back then 3d was the norm among corps. If Nijisanji didn't exist and Cover did expand, they would likely all be in 3d on debut. However there is Roboco and Miko who were also both 3d on debut

>>10645950
I apologize for the phrasing. Back then pessimistic anons would describe everyone else as bandwagonning/copying Ai. Which isn't entirely wrong since the term Virtual Youtuber was initially meant to refer only to herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
I cant believe the 15-fps vtoober has returned

[Anonymous No.]

>>10646509
>returned
you mean reverted

[Anonymous No.]

M-MY QUEEN I'VE MISSED YOU SO MUCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>10645950
Companies did exist but they were mostly tech startups with a skeleton crew so basically companies in name only. The only exception would probably be Kizuna Ai or Azuma Lim if you consider her to be a early Vtuber. I think I remember Ai was supposed to be in a multi-national group with astronauts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636331
What the fuck is she gonna do anyway? videos game? livestream? funny sketch meme?
But more AI voice sketch will be fun tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>10636750
Yeah man remember when hololive would do these nonsense skits with their chuubas every week or so and how unpopular they were back then? OH WAIT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10647686
Funny sketches, singing and concerts. She was never into livestreams nor gaming.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an online shop where we can buy her goods?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10649713
https://pmarusama.com/
https://www.animate-onlineshop.jp/products/list.php?mode=search&smt=P%E4%B8%B8%E6%A7%98

[Anonymous No.]

https://pmarusama.com/info/pmarudiary.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>10643877
>She was once one of the four heavenly queens,
That's really not that high of a bar, so let me specify that even amongst the four heavenly kings she's an exceptional performer. Before Gura showed up she was the only other vtuber to break a million subs other than Kizuna Ai, and at some points she was more popular than Ai herself and might have actually surpassed her if Sony wasn't run by a bunch of aging dipshits

[Anonymous No.]

Mutually nostalgic...

[Anonymous No.]

I'm very out of the loop, what actually happened to Luna

[Anonymous No.]

>>10650460
Sony fucked her over with managerial direction bullshit and red tape and she decided she could do better on her own. Which she did

[Anonymous No.]

What do you miss the most from those days long gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10640233
https://twitter.com/p_ma_ru/status/1443557297909682182
https://twitter.com/8AndAHalfTails/status/1443576900895449095?s=20
The whole thread if you want to read it yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>10650667
The Golden Age of vtubers. When everybody had a bright future and there were no limits. Then from the shadows, a hideous creature, an ugly 2d goblin appeared and destroyed everything. The Paradise was lost forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10651023
I miss the golden era of vtubing too, it's unfortunate that almost everything has to be about streaming just to be as relevant as possible. But to be honest, I like this current era we have. It's just obnoxious western vtubers, especially from tw*tter that's slowly getting traction and that's what I fear the most.

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Ages of Vtubers
Age of Gods: Ami Yamato's debut - Christmas Miracle
Golden Age: Christmas Miracle - Tsukino Mito's Laundry room livestream
Silver Age: Tsukino Mito's Laundry room livestream - Fubuki's Skatman
Bronze Age: Fubuki's Skatman - First Asacoco
Iron Age: First Asacoco - Graduation of Kiryu Coco
Steel Age: Graduation of Kiryu Coco - Now

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>>10651286
You forgot Primordial Age, Dark Age and Heroic Age.

Primordial Age: Virtual Mario At 1992 SCES - Annoying Orange
Age of Gods: Annoying Orange - Ami Yamato's Debut
Golden Age: Ami Yamato's Debut - The Birth of Eilene
Dark Age: The Birth of Eilene - Kizuna AI's Debut
Heroic Age: Kizuna AI's Debut - Tsukino Mito's Laundry room livestream
Silver Age: Tsukino Mito's Laundry room livestream - Fubuki's Scatman
Bronze Age: Fubuki's Skatman - First Asacoco
Iron Age: First Asacoco - Graduation of Kiryu Coco
Steel Age: Graduation of Kiryu Coco - Now

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>>10652388
the Christmas Miracle is a more important event than a chinese shitposter forcing ebola-chan memes

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>>10649884
>>10649994
Thank you!

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What was the Christmas Miracle?

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>>10652518
Well, at least I put Eilene in the Dark Age period. I wanted to put Christmas Miracle, indeed. Wasn't sure if I should create another period after Steel Age. But fuck it, here's the newer revision.

Primordial Age: Virtual Mario At 1992 SCES - Annoying Orange
Age of Gods: Annoying Orange - Ami Yamato's Debut
Golden Age: Ami Yamato's Debut - The Birth of Eilene
Dark Age: The Birth of Eilene - Kizuna AI's Debut
Heroic Age: Kizuna AI's Debut - Christmas Miracle
Silver Age: Christmas Miracle - Tsukino Mito's Laundry room livestream
Bronze Age: Tsukino Mito's Laundry room livestream - Fubuki's Skatman
Iron Age: Fubuki'S Skatman - First Asacoco
Steel Age: First Asacoco - Graduation of Kiryu Coco
Titanium Age: Graduation of Kiryu Coco - Now

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>>10652566
It was when more vtubers beyond Kizuna Ai acknowledged each other. It all started coincidentally with this Kaguya Luna tweet

https://twitter.com/_KaguyaLuna/status/944125259942207488

During that time Siro and Nekomasu had a collab marking the first collab ever between vtubers

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>>10640233
>>10651018
>"I was told I could continue as P-Maru-sama. but then I wasn't allowed to. I was new to the city and didn't understand how grown-up contracts worked, so I was just scared a lot of the time. But you supported me the whole time and I wasn't even allowed to say goodbye. I'm sorry."
Black Company moment.

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>>10652782
Thanks for the reminder. 2 drunk right now.

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>>10652566

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>>10652798
So is this referring to her VTuber contract with VIC, her music contract with Sony, or both?

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>>10652896
I remember when Sora was overwhelmed with superchats on one of her early streams and she asked the incipient soratomo to not donating more as she was concened.

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Where's the shrimp? You've gotta have the shrimp! Everyone loved the shrimp!

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>>10653001
both probably

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>>10643847
still absurd to me how big gura is

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>>10651286
>>10652388
>>10652761
>Age of Gods
Why not call it Divine Age?
It's bothering my autism

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>>10653062
Guess if Vic was that bad, that would explain PPH also deciding to leave.

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>>10652761
Why even define ages for proto-VTubers? And why would a "golden age" take place before the industry even existed?

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>>10653210
>before the industry even existed?
Words fail me at the moment. I despise you.

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>>10653210
That's correct. The golden age is Kizuna Ai, the four heavenly kings, SoraAo, Antama and the Tenmakinin

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>>10652388
The Primordial Age started a bit earlier than that https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/9751430/#9751430

[Anonymous No.]

Hi back, I'm not interested.

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>>10653266
Despise all you want. The history is already written with Kizuna Ai as the progenitor of the term, the concept, and the industry. Everyone before her are just proto-VTubers, if you want to be charitable.

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>>10653316
Why are takos like this?

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>>10653210
>Why even define ages for proto-VTubers?
Autism.

>And why would a "golden age" take place before the industry even existed?
I assumed he was going for the Hesoid's Five ages. So I tried to make it sensible as possible when adding new ages. Of course, there will be disagreements.

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The golden age died when niggas like these >>10653432 started to gain traction.

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>>10653492
This people appeared after the debut of the JKgumi

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https://twitter.com/MikaPikaZo/status/1443627717040095232

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>>10652782
Correct me if I’m spring, but I thought the Christmas Miracle was when Siro got the first big sub boost.
IIRC she was like at the Yua line for ages then the algorithm picked up her videos

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>>10651023
The Evil streaming format took our translated videos... golden age bye bye

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>>10653758
All of that happened around the same time November 2017 - January 2018
- Siro's breakthrough
- Kaguya Luna's tweet impersonating vtubers
- First Vtuber Collab (Siro and Nekomasu)
- Tokino Sora's surprise boost

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>>10653891
also
Mirai Akari's New Year's stream

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It has been YEARS and Aifag is still buttblasted

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>>10636331
Why is she back?

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How is the chuuba jew on steroids doing? Is she still making shitty videos for every sponsor under the sun?

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>>10654075
Yes

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It's all Yomemi's fault.

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I hope she would just go back to making skits that will never be translated so I will finally be motivated to learn japanese.

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>>10654048
Probably some legal clause finally expired

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>>10654190
she's been doing her "anime" videos this whole time. Her channel is full of untranslated skits just without the 3D parts

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She actually got me into vtubers, but honestly I always thought her content was the kind of thing you get addicted for one week and then never feel like looking at again except for maybe once or twice a year. Same for most of the so called "golden age" with their pre-recorded skits. I enjoy what they do, but regular streaming is on a whole other level in terms of bringing engagement.

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>>10653989
Ai-chan lives rent free in your head chumbud

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>>10639886
The ugly bug eyed menhera bitch -Meiro of course- got what she deserved.

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>>10654048
>back
She was still doing content.

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>>10653989
Let me guess, Mito was the inspiration for all vtubers, right?

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>>10653891
I would add that Kaguya Luna played a much bigger role in triggering the Christmas Miracle. She was the first to break the wall between vtubers. Before her tweets, everyone was living within their own bubble. She also attracted a lot of new viewers to the vtuber industry from the ton of fan art she got.
I am also unsure why people bring up Sora as an important figure during the Christmas Miracle. Everyone in the industry got a boost in subs even Yua to a minor extent.

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>>10656686
>why people bring up Sora as an important figure during the Christmas Miracle
That was the deed of the holos trying to make hololive important when it was not the case.

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>>10656686
>She was the first to break the wall between vtubers
That was basically what happened.

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>>10656686
>I am also unsure why people bring up Sora as an important figure during the Christmas Miracle
Maybe because it was a big deal for Sora and Hololive would go on to become the top Vtuber corporation in the world. Just maybe.

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>>10653743
who?

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>>10657492
the Mama of Kaguya Luna, Pinky Pop Hepburn y HoloEN's rat

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>>10657492
the Mama of Kaguya Luna, Pinky Pop Hepburn and HoloEN's rat baelz

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>>10643012
Wait, what?

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>>10658372
Yes, it failed.

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>>10638129
EL AYUWOKI

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>>10636331
She seems like a lovely girl.
Subbed =)

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>>10636331
She literally never left

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>>10637853
first of all a big comeback so buffed numbers and secondly over 2M subs

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>>10653891
>First Vtuber Collab (Siro and Nekomasu)
I'm pretty sure the first collab was when a red Tenchi bullied a virgin Maou in PUBG.

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>>10662502
Tenchi...

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https://kaguyaluna.co.jp/contents/459355
Sony just literally went "well, everyone knows Luna is dead now so we can't scam those that joined her fan club anymore" so they are shutting it down

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You think Pekora and Marine feel her breath on their shoulders?

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>>10666149
>You think Pekora and Marine feel her breath on their shoulders?
I am just glad at least 1 of the 4 kings is doing well.

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>>10642718
Haven’t you been posting this for three years already? It’s time to get used to it.

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>>10647015
>I think I remember Ai was supposed to be in a multi-national group with astronauts.
YOU BASTARD WHY DID YOU BRING THAT UP?!

FUCKIGN CHINA AGAIN ! !

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>>10666149
Why would they? Game streamers and prerecord variety performers have completely different audiences.

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>>10663236
Wait are you kidding?
...You aren't, that's hilarious, sad, pathetic and scummy. You know what, I hope their new v-tuber project burns to the ground, especially given what Pmaru has said about how she was treated when she was under Sony. Fuck the scummy bastards, they probably still have the shitheels working there and if anything, they're in charge of the new project.

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>>10666517
I don't think we need to worry about them being successful. The fact that they were promoting the QUANTITY of talent they are going to have, is enough to convince me that they are biting off way more than they could chew. They are doing it all wrong. I just feel bad for the talents that would be sacrificed to the Sony meat grinder, hope they could find new identities after graduation.

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>>10666848
I respect Sony for taking it upon themselves to make Re:AcT look like a fucking joke

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>>10667027
I’m still not sure what is exactly Re:AcT’s problem. Their vtubers keep retiring endlessly but I don’t remember them making particularly bad decisions or having drama. Well, not counting that one male idol group they had.

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>>10662502
Kurumi and Akkun collab was later. Siro and Nekomasu did a collab on Christmas eve 2017

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>>10666342
>Haven’t you been posting this for three years already?
You still are reluctant to admit everything was ruined by the goblin

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>>10636724
Why do I like Luna’s design a lot but this is really ugly to me

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>>10667903
>Why do I like Luna’s design a lot but this is really ugly to me
It's a "costume". I expect he to get a 2nd design that is more plain later just like every other member.

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>>10636331
never watched kaguya luna, i like her new song.
subbed.

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>>10652782
i miss when ogs from different companies and indies interacted.

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>>10654878
Aifag and his autistic hate for Mito predates Gura by years, newfag

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>>10666484
are u kidding me? its the same audience. besides what makes u think she won't stream games, and arent pekora and marine also a variety performer

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>>10645858
Not even talking about niji but ok

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>>10666517
>Pmaru has said about how she was treated when she was under Sony
In recent times, the recording industry is second only to prostitution in the level of exploitation of young, inexperienced talents. It comes as absolutely no surprise to me that they would be prepared with the most ridiculous contracts stacked against talents.

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https://youtu.be/JVItBIkQPGQ?t=1815
Oh man I didn't realize how much missed this voice.

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>>10666149
Hot

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>>10655079
she was important in popularisation of zatsudan and live 2D but that's about it

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>>10653989
kneel to AI faggot
without her you wouldn't be here and this board wouldn't exist

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Anyone know who did her 3D model?