Unpopular Opinion thread

[Anonymous No.]

Post your unpopular opinions.
I'll start:
Nijisanji is objectively terrible and people only pretend to like it to be contrarian and not like the most popular thing. The only "positive" on their end is that they're allowed to be whores and even then VShojo does it better than them.

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Hololive is objectively terrible and people only pretend to like it to be contrarian and not like the most popular thing. The only "positive" on their end is that they're allowed to be whores and even then VShojo does it better than them.

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The more a vtuber interacts with men, the better their quality becomes.

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>>11448579
Yeah they've been interacting with me all day

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>>11448684
And they interact with me all night.

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>>11448722
And then i wake up

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>>11448458
I once checked one of their streams cuz some faggot was saying they were better than Hololive.
They were sitting in silence. Playing Minecraft. Watching grass grow.

Chat was dead.

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>>11448863
Literal garbage.

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>>11448458
Company affiliated vtubers/ vtuber idols are the worst thing to have ever happened in the entire vtuber industry. There wasnt ever a vtuber who'd made it big independently/individually - like pre 2012 PewDiePie-tier status. Just saying that most superchatted or membership vtubers are afilliated with agencies or relatee groups. The only better outcome for the vtuber industry for the future is for independent/solo vtubers to be more prevalent rather than afilliated or contracted ones.
>bbut what about mirai??? kizuna ai???
these two have been already backed up in the past by Japanese talent agencies/companiew albeit discreetly.

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>>11448458
>>11448499
I want Marine and Haachama to put their feet in my mouth

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>>11448458
I think there should be a male crossick

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>>11448458
Crossick is overrated and I still think is yuribait. There is something off about them

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>>11448458
I think Indie Vtubers should move to Twitch instead of Youtube. It's alot harder to grow in Youtube unless you're under a company.

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>>11449804
>>11450293
Duality of man

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I love Minecraft. Wish they played it more.

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>>11450650
Nah not really, I agree with him that I think Crossick is bait, just that they're comfortable doing business french kissing and nipple biting, but I want a male version of it

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>>11448863
Pomu?

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>>11448458
Ok i bite
Hololive is overated as fuck and awkward on collab

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kronii's design is ugly as hell
her hair is hideous and her top makes no sense where the fuck are her nipples supposed to be

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>>11451578
Place bets on whether this faggot only watches EN Holos

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>>11450487
???
I got recommended tons of vods with less than 1k views on Youtube, from channnel with 3k subs and less, even go as low as 3 digits.
I'll give you that all of them are Japanese though.
Do twitch even recommend archives?
Because if not then Youtube have upper hand in that they can still get exposure even when not streaming

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vtubing is too focused on streaming videogames and little else. There used to be more creativity involved. I don't like how many steps backwards vtubing has taken from where it started. Even kayfabe is a formality that even holos barely maintain anymore.

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Hololive is really boring and Cover are an incompetent company that are killing their golden goose despite having all the luck in the world.
They've mishandled virtually every single talent in the company and the only reason any of them stick around is because they make so much more money than any other brand but are secretly fed up with the incompetence and unprofessionalism.

The Hololive fanbase 2020 onwards are actual DDIQ's who are just chasing trends. They constantly whine about "ironic weebs" ruining vtubing and "fake yuri", "fake friendships", "fake whatever", "superchait bait", etc. Yet they themselves are the fucking ironic weebs and their brand that they obsessively defend and act like a cult towards embody all the things they claim to hate about other companies.

The vtuber boom of 2020 brought on by HoloEN is probably the worst thing that could've happened to vtubing. I'll forever wish Cover goes bankrupt over it and all their talents get poached by orgs that don't treat them like it's fucking AKB48 and let them pursue their own style of vtubing. The needless restrictions and micromanaging and corporatization of vtubing trickles down to every company below them and is slowly making them all worse in a desperate attempt to copy the Hololive formula. It's like when Apple ruined smartphones and everyone else started copying them with proprietary hardware and locking people out of their own devices they paid for just because it's what consumers came to expect.

Fuck Yagoo.

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>>11453048
>corporatization of vtubing trickles down to every company below them and is slowly making them all worse in a desperate attempt to copy the Hololive formula
This is the worst part. You can't attract a hololive audience by copying them. Hololive viewers don't watch other vtubers. They watch hololive.

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>>11448458
>people only pretend to like it to be contrarian and not like the most popular thing
If you're talking about NijiEN I agree. NijiJP has a lot of long time fans of many members.

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>>11453048
Best post in this thread

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>>11448458
I think all of you company cock sucking retards, there's no perfect agency all of them have good apples and bad.

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>>11448458
Nina was hired because she is political

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>unpopular opinion
>objectively terrible
>objectively
>opinion

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>>11448458
Coco was entirely in the wrong and it was cruel of her to graduate because she couldn't adapt to the Japanese workplace culture.

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I fucking LOVE Enna and Millie lezzing out and hope they aren't neutered by staff.

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>>11458562
This will make some anons unironically seethe but Coco was absolutely a disruptive presence at Hololive pre-yab and would never have gotten away with half the shit she did if YAGOO wasn’t remarkably lenient for a Japanese CEO.

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>>11458631
Yagoo doesn't really control Hololive to that degree but yes, management gave Coco so many chances and she kind of shat on them at every turn.

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>>11448458
I don't like Polka she's rude and has the aura of a backstabber

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If you can't interact with the streamer in some way or form, the stream is garbage, and theres no reason as a viewer to catch it live. This includes all Holos and larger streamers in general.

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>>11448458
/vt/ is objectively terrible and people only pretend to like it to be contrarian and not like the most popular thing. The only "positive" on their end is that they're allowed to be whores and even then Reddit does it better than them.

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>>11449732
He said unpopular opinions

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>>11458817
No one even pretends to like this shithole

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>>11448458
>>11448499
Is it ok that I want to drink their pee?

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>>11448458
Coco graduating was for the better, not beacuse "muh creative freedom" but beacuse she devalued every cutesy yab by being unhinged and making every retard in the audience salivating for an opportunity to call out the talent for every misspoken word.

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>>11453308
Main reason why vshoujo’s so popular, they realized that twitch is the better platform for their growth and that western fans just want anime girls doing whatever twitch streamers are doing instead of this idol crap.

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>>11458697
I can't really argue with the aura part, but what makes you think she's rude?

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Hololive is the equivalent of eating McDonalds, it's alright but still insanely popular with fat people

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>>11458817
This isn’t unpopular half of the board knows it’s shit and just barely puts up with it. The other half are tourists and underaged

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>>11448458
The fact that chat in holo, niji, and vshojo are so fucking braindead that they support their oshis and company no matter how badly they fuck up is bad for the culture.
That level of blind loyalty will end with infiltrators who will subvert the chubbas either from a management side (see zhangs fucking coco) to even an individual chubba side (see nina being a commie)
The lack of awareness of this and chat taking anybody who speaks up about it as an "anti" is the beginning of the end. When your favorite vtuber is doing a promotional charity stream for black disabled trans people of color, it will be too late. And the chat will still be sending hearts and cheering them on completely oblivious as to what changed .

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>>11448458
hololive have actually worse technology and less completent people in management and technical and artistic backup (if they even exist)
in western contries they are getting hard carried by youtube algorithm, PekoMiko clips that are just like anime, and us, the obnoxious fanbase

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>>11448458
The culture of keeping voice actors/roommates secret has done little more than give the majority of power over to the corpos and leave most girls in a situation where they have to tolerate whatever mistreatment they may receive from their employers because most of them simply can't just speak up about how shit things are behind the scenes and if they left they won't have nearly as much success.

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>>11459347
You might sound convincing, but people have been saying this of holo for over a year and yet they just keep growing.

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>>11453048
I don't think this is unpopular. Anyone who followed Vtuber before HoloEN was a thing should know have some point thought about something similar to this.

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>>11459382
Don't become a vtuber then? Nobody forced them into this deal. You said it yourself, they'd never have as much success otherwise, so it's a tradeoff they had to accept willingly at some point. If they didn't realize what they were getting themselves into that's their own fault, unless the companies flat out lied or disrespected contracts.

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>>11448458
Hololive is like Apple where people will watch literal shit because of a brand, due to cultist loyalty.

The only objectively good Holo is Usada Pekora, yet people on this board would rather praise a shitty shark or cringe rapper over the best female in the industry.

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I wish a vtuber would unironically married one of their viewers just to see the shitstorm in this board and beyond.

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If your oshi didn't debut under cover/anycolor she wouldn't be your oshi. Also tribalfags and idolfags should be removed.

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>>11452405
Brave and true

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>>11459234
VShojo didn't realize shit, they are just a group of already established streamers who decided to group up.

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>>11452405
True, her design is kinda bad but at least she didn't get the garbage rigging in her gen.

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>>11448458
this but holo instead

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Honestly the industry is probably going to be stagnant for a while since there's little to no incentive for those at the top to try and innovate in a massive way and it usually takes a major player dying for someone smaller to take their spot.
Cover and Anykara benefited from being able to watch other companies implode on themselves and while neither of them are clean themselves they've done well enough to prevent anything that can kill their entire company. Honestly I don't think either will ever have anything like a mass graduation, since most members are content where they are.

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>>11448458
I like how you put 100 streamers in the same basket, or you're just an EOP

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>>11459382
The roommate is to keep up the keyfabe thing as to not to break the illusion of the Vtuber being an actual entity. Anyone who is not an EOP and actually give a shit about the Vtuber should know ways to confirm just who the roommate is, not like the girls actively try to completely erase any information about their roommates (except a very few)

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>>11459663
the industry is dead/dying in the west, both holo/niji new gens are a dud

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>>11448458
Haachama is overhyped and people who like her are retards who want to die from food poisoning

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>>11448458
Minecraft streams are boring and people only watch them to fill their day with "talk" so they can pretend they have friends. It's the worst, laziest type of "content". Vtubers who dare to be different don't get views, sadly.

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>>11459683
Your almost a year late for this to be an unpopular opinion.

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>>11452638
youtube recommends vods but rarely do they recommend lives, twitch is the complete opposite. Being a vtuber on youtube only makes sense if you're one of those Kizuna Ai types that mostly uploads short videos, if you're streaming it's better to go on twitch.

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>>11459525
I know an EN Twitch indie who married one of her paypigs.
She offered him a real life date for $10,000 to pay off her student loans and they hit it off from there even though she never intended anything more than to milk him for money.
Can't say who it is because I only know it from being online friends with her for 10+ years but it was someone who was active in her tiny discord server.

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>>11459663
There just needs to be another big shakeup in style and format like when niji and holo dethroned the original big 4

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>>11459797
>They hit it off
Bro...?

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>>11448684
stop sucing vampire cock

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I don't think we're getting a JP Gen 6 at this rate, and with Holostars not getting any debuts either it could be that the JP side is just staying where it is. Honestly while gens 4 and 5 gave us good members like Botan and Nene I can't say that it gave us a superstar talent kind of girl. Botan probably doesn't want to take on a Fubuki or Marine role and while Nene is cute I wouldn't be surprised if there were a dozen more Nene types out there. Hyperactive, dumb idol wannabe doesn't sound like it'd be in short supply.

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>>11459797
Female streamers are whores more news at 11!

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>>11459847
eslchama...?

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>>11448458
The industry is dying because they don't care about innovation, just Minecraft/Apex/other lazy content. No one wants to be different.

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>>11459899
I know what the term means. I'm wondering what exactly makes you think that relationship is in any way legitimate when it starts with a 10,000 dollar date.

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>>11459932
There's no such thing as a legitimate relationship, all of them are inherently transactional in some form or another.

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>>11459397
Yes, but that's the problem. Its ignorant growth. When bad things start to happen the fans will continue to act like nothing is wrong because they're retards

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>>11460033
>There is no difference between paying an absurd amount of money for a first date and meeting someone normally under the assumption of mutual attraction
Okay.

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vtuber birthdays are stupid and only exist to extract money out of idiots spending their disposable income on a jpg.

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>>11459319
underrated kek

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>>11460033
Yeah but their usually not this completely cynical
She's a whore and he's a retard, full stop

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>>11448458
>people being contrarian on 4chan

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>>11459486
>unless the companies flat out lied or disrespected contracts.
Companies do this all the time, in fact you could probably name companies that don't lie and honor contracts when beneficial to their employee on one hand.

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>>11459397
Which means that anons evaluation of the situation is just completely wrong. There's a reason companies and celebrities are battling each other in how much they support x and y minority and that they're funding this and that charity etc. The masses love that shit

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>>11448458
Minecraft is a boring game. You can do a "zatsudan" with any game, but people choose not to.

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>>11459912
That's because YT's bullshit algorthem forces those games because they're the 'in' thing with normies and children.

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>>11460281
Finally, someone who speaks English.

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>>11459797
Just like my anime doujins.

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>>11460124
I wouldn't mind if birthdays and anniversaries were the same by definition, but having two of them really is overkill.

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>>11458702
Haachama...

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>>11460534
a birthday should be their debut. it doesn't even make sense to pick random dates.

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>>11458702
One of the reasons Pekora is so popular is that she CONSTANTLY engages with chat.

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I can't stand watching Hololive, especially Holoen because the rigging is just so fucking bad. Every Hololive rigger except for Keffiy is fucking abysmal. Hololive's rigging is 2018-2019 tier. Every single fucking indie has better rigging than Hololive. Look at Ceres. Her past life's model was Iron Vertex and now it's a huge downgrade rigging wise. Why the fuck is THE biggest vtuber company and sinkhole of cash employing bottom of the barrel, stiff, shitty riggers when every indie with 1k in the bank can get better? It's to the point now where most of the new hires were previously vtubers which means half of them are getting worse models when they sign up for the big corpo, unless they're 2poor 2views.

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>>11460564
Just like Suisei

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>>11459892
Whores? Sounds like a faifthful tradwife to me. Except she has a cool job.

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>>11452812
How would you fix it?

>>11453048
2 and 3, yes. I'd say since this is the first vtuber company to get successful, they wouldn't know how to handle situations, especially since YAGOO isn't exactly an experienced business man. For bring a trailblazer, they're really well. Especially since most of the girls are actually happy and enjoy working there, which is more than 99% of corporations could say.

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>>11448458
vtuber fans are just hipsters that refuse to watch real streamers on Twitch.

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>>11460618
I don’t watch much Hololive but I think pekora is entertaining. But how can she even read chat with that many viewers?

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>>11461089
powerful bunny brain

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>>11453048
Based

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>>11458631
>>11458664
A-chan is the head of the day-to-day business of Hololive.Yagoo is only involved in the hiring process and to promote the brand. Once a talent is in, they're not his business anymore. He's primarly in charge of Cover and he's not even A-Chan's boss. I think he only met with Coco because things got wild and someone (probably Coco or management) asked him to do. Normally, it's not his job and he doesn't have the authority to just meet with Hololive employees when things go bad. A-Chan roughly explained the way Hololive is structured in Holotalk.

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>>11451344
I can have business sex with you and stream it

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>>11463719
>A-chan is the head of the day-to-day business of Hololive
retard

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>>11460100
Is he wrong? We should all just go back to the days of trading cows and goats for a woman's hand in marriage.

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>>11448499
fpbp

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>>11463869
Anon I hate the idea of IRL sex I just want to see/hear anime boys having sex by making kissing and groping noises while their Live2Ds or art is on screen.

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>>11460618
I heavily doubt she can read chat. There's too many people. Your message will never get read. Even if she tries her best it's a matter of statistics, its just not going to happen.

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If you use the word kino, you're a faggot

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>>11448458
>opinion
>objectively
retard

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>>11460214
Aloe...
Lulu...

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I do not enjoy the JP interaction with EN. They are awkward and ruin the streams for me, even though I like the JP girls and think they are good.

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Hololive EN Minecraft streams are now unwatchable. Either the girls don't speak Japanese and you get awkward babbling or they do and the stream becomes another JP stream.

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>>11465416
See also: based, redpilled, and all the other mindless parrot words the meat robots here use because they have no original thoughts

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>>11465497
Well, if we're talking about Hololive then sure. EN and JP treat each other like celebrities and it's just weird.

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i really just don't like haato. I never understood what she was doing after she got a lot of people on board with vtubers and she really fell off a cliff when she started to do that schizo gimmick. she made herself fail because of that, and refusing to play any games as a result

I think all of sankisei is great but the member at the bottom is probably rushia. she really is carried hard from her GFE and it really shows. her gaming isn't that great, and she really benefits off of chats/memberships.

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>>11464436
How to spot a SEA egg

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>>11459726
Same could be said about people who watch streamers in general anon chama, why would someone want to watch other person in real time play a game and not themselves? or a watchaling?? it's either GF, BRO or Best friend experience.... all streaming is the same in terms of taking advantage of the lonely ones.

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>>11465416
I'm glad I've yet to use this word. I want the extent of my 4chan vocabulary to just be adding fag at the end of everything.

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>>11465473
>Lulu...
Nothing she's done contradicts the "Nijisanji stopped the stalkers, but I'm leaving because they told me I had to go on hiatus every time a new one popped up" story she gave on graduation.
You're better off pointing to Gibara for rrats like this. Not that I think anything bad happened there, but it's more ambiguous.

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For as much as people say holofags are brand loyalists, I think nijifags are even worse on that regard.

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>>11465580
Based

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also here's a really tough pill to swallow

no matter what vshojo does with their company and vtubing rigs, they're ultimately a cash grab. they're a cash grab for people who would have no shot at being anywhere in the business and only exist because of the idea of appealing to the depraved horny crowd.

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>>11466103
I was giving the other anon examples. For as much as either side calls the other "black company", I don't think they are bad, just retarded.

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>>11465402
You don't need to doubt, just watch her streams.

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When people say unpopular opinion they're either going to say something that isn't unpopular (but they're a little bitch about it) or is just outright retarded
Example: This thread.

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Surprised at how many Nijifags are seething here. Well at least Niji managed to gather a fanbase here because /vt/ has the best fanbase right Nijifags?

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>>11465416
based
>>11465580
oh

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>>11461027
I would say they enjoy working there because of the friends they make, just look at calli, after her old friends dumped her because she was getting too famous, her Holo friends were there for her, she started hanging out with her JP senpais IRL and kouhais, but i bet your ass that they are annoyed at management for being schizos, pressuring coco to leave, not opening a studio for 3D lives in the US or Europe and Omega tranny, if anyone joins Holo nowadays is for the money and hueg fanbase, just look at kronii who didn't even know what the fuck ahoy was.

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>>11466196
Most of them were already popular in their own right before they formed the company, you BAKA.

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>>11466196
I'll give you that they act as a megaphone to attract a certain crowd, but I'm pretty sure before forming Vshojo, Ironmouse and Nyanners were doing perfectly fine. And as for Hime I'm pretty sure she treats it as a meme, and is far more active as Sydsnap.

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>>11466504
nyanners was already dwindling before getting to vtubing. that was a move to make any god damn ambition to keep her identity alive. you wanna talk actual grifting and nepotism? that's a good example of that shit

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>>11466574
>have a job
>do something to improve your job
>this is bad

lol okay moron

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>>11466371
Dude, if we're being honest, both the Hololive and Nijisanji fanbase suck absolute ass on this board, and it's quite bizarre to suggest otherwise.

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>>11466758
The tribalism is dumb as shit and only serves the executives of each company. The Niji and Holo shit is incredibly similar and if you don't see that then you've drank so much Kool aid that Jim Jones would tell you to slow the fuck down

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>>11452812
>vtubing is too focused on streaming videogames and little else. There used to be more creativity involved.
thats a based opinion

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>>11448458
Forced collabs are absolutely necessary.

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>>11448458
Vtubing is a cancer

Not only is filled with yes men in a hugbox who spend thousands on promoting their oshi's hikki lifestyle, but it glorifies itself by predating lonely men into forfeiting every single drop of human dignity they had, they became unironic simps, even worse because a man behind a cute avatar (Zentreya, Asria) without a voice can milk you as much as a woman or even more.

We have Whores, GFE, idols and so on with Twitch being around 90% coomer pandering because it sells, almost everyone who is not doing it ends up doing it because of clippers who go around and check who the fuck said dick and cum in the sexiest way to make them famous, resulting in people going to your stream expecting you to act like a Veibae super saiyan god III 24/7

People hate on vtuber whores here not because of good morals but because they never had the oportunity to fuck someone in their student days and try to cope saying ''IF YOU HAD CASUAL SEX YOU ARE A WHORE DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE A MAN'' which is true, but I bet none of (You) would pass the oportunity to become a ''man whore'' with cute girls around your age.

People overhype Selen as the breath of fresh air of Vtubing and when people go check her out they don't find anything THAT special and just move on, faggots are hindering her growth by being retarded contrarians to Holofags and shilling her oshi too much, ironically, just like Holofags started shilling Hololive everywhere and don't make me remind you the shit that was internet with the shuba duck dance.

People watch low viewer indies because they want to interact with them because they lack irl friends. People watch high viewer indies because of numbers and the sense of ''freedom'' in their content, which is just really saying fuck and bullshit political opinions ''HEY!! WANNA HEAR WHY THE LEFT/RIGHT IS THE BEST????'' ALSO I'M GAY!!!! TRANS PEOPLE SO BRAVE MY GOD!!! and I'm a they/them/shblorp''

Work out 1 hour a day, watch what you eat, download tinder if you are so desperate to fuck someone and then you'll realize how much of a fucking waste of time is actually watching chuubas instead of having them as free bgm.

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>>11448499
>I know what I do I say what he said, but the opposite!
>Proving his point this hard

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>>11458631
If the Taiwan shitfest never happened, Coco would most likely have no defenders here beyond a handful of contrarians. But the zhangs harassed everyone in the company, not just Coco, so now lots of people feel a stake in defending Coco as if she were their own oshi.

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>>11450487
T. didn't do their research

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>>11468531
It might be true.
The zhangs propped up Coco.
Made her a martyr.
Silenced any legitimate criticism.
I'm pretty ok with it though.
Made a good story.
Also made china look bad.

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>>11466923
Except I don't find niji entertaining.
I've tried. Its just boring. They don't have the special something that makes it fun for me.
I'm not a tribalfag either.
If they one day start being enjoyable, I will watch them.
They won't though.

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>>11468895
did you know that little children think that bags of carrots with the McDonald's logo taste better than carrots without the logo, despite being the exact same vegetable? I mean, you're CLEARLY too smart and immune to propaganda, but just a thought...

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>>11469087
Not the one you are replying to but, if they are the same, then why bother watch the other?

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>>11468518
did you have a stroke writing this

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>>11453048
Unfathomably based

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Twitch is a better streaming platform for vtubers, especially EN.

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>>11469364
Because the differences are illusory.

I'm not saying anyone HAS to watch anyone, but just know branding has an effect that you may not notice. Best to be aware of it.

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>>11469087
I started by watching all vtubers.
Narrowed down to korone.
Spread out once I realized it was pretty much just hololive that I liked.
The other ones are just ordinary streamers.
Hololive has fun stuff.
Limited gross stuff. Limited political stuff. Fun interactions. Maintains immersion pretty well for streamers.
If I wanted games streamers I would just go back to Dr. Disrespect and Shroud.

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>>11469801
no, you must watch niji

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>>11469599
Just like people playing wow, can't believe they got away with years of player and women abuse.

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>>11469883
Look Jack, the faceless corporation I like is NOTHING like the faceless corporation you like

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>>11469869
lol

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>>11468108
based.
/hlgg/ has gone to shit because of these pathetic yes men

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>>11469968
dont you lol at me you little shit this is serious

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>>11470054
. . . also nijis fans are tryhard shitheads

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>>11470054
*cums on you*

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>>11453048
I really hope you decide to take your meds, schizo

The fact that other schizos are agreeing like flies doesn't mean you don't have a mental illness

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>>11452812
Creativity in what tho? Skits? Book Readings?

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>>11453048
So what yer saying is that you want the Holo talents to join Nijisan is that what you are telling me?

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>>11470256
Steve Jobs typed this post from beyond the grave.

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>>11453048
You can pinpoint the exact moment fanboys entered the thread with the replies to this post

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>>11459234
But twitch has far less internet security than youtube

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>>11448458
based and true
>>11448499
kill yourself nijibrony

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>>11459521
I think we found ourselves a nousagi here. Cope rabbit fugger

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>>11459347
>your favorite vtuber is doing a promotional charity stream for black disabled trans people of color
I don't see the issue with this.

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>>11460281
Name one game you can 'zasudan' on

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>>11461072
No one wants to watch cringy normies streaming

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>>11470980
>cringey normals
Are you 12? Honest question.

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>>11468108
Imagine being so much of a normie to try and dictate others on being a normie too.

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>>11471155
Nope and there are only a few normie streamers worth watching. Like Dr. Disrespect

The rest are hella cringy

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>>11471476
>Nope
Okay man that's just sad. Learn some new vocabulary.

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>>11471633
Your defense mechanism is, as they say, "cope". Oh hey a buzzword, now im cool too.

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>>11468108
>People watch low viewer indies because they want to interact with them because they lack irl friends
Yes

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>>11448458
Hololive needs to release gens more quickly. ideally
ID3 out by next month
EN3 late February Early march
ID4 Summer 2022
EN4 Fall 2022
ID5 Winter 2023
ENVSinger sprinkled between months

There should be hard stop after gen five. No new gens unless :
a. there's significant amount of graduations
b. there is new advancement in tech
d. to shill something major like a video game, movie etc
c. The streamers are exclusive to a different platform, (ex. Gens 6-8 are Twitch only)

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>>11465711
This is the worst opinion I've ever read

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>>11466431
>Just look a calli

I'm not reading the rest of that

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>>11472721
I still want my HoloES

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>>11466431
I mean e-celeb/streamer is the most popular profession among children and teenagers for a reason. If you are a Vtuber, you can even walk down the street without getting recognized all the time and still get your popularity fix by simply pressing a button. If you aren't interested in changing the world, it's a living dream. Anyone who says any of HoloEN don't enjoy working there are lying to themselves as a cope mechanism. And of course once you're a rich and famous Holo, the only people you can resonate with are other Vtubers and e-celebs. Losing your old friends is inevitable at a certain rate of success, regardless on whether they're jealous dicks or not.

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>>11473533
I have a feeling it's gonna suck worse than current EN. Reason is hispanic humor is stuck in the rage comic era. Almost every single tweet has to have some stupid idiot posting pic related. And almost every single ES indy has failed because they're literally retarded and bring IRL into the stream or get offended for stupid things, like Mimu.

That said, there are some ES chuubas that are ok, but ironically they aren't hispanics. They're Japanese that learned Spanish as a second language. So far, I like Sono Fuyuhara and Hana Sakura.

I'll watch and recommendations if you have any

>inb4 that one Niji that speaks 4 languages or something
She's not that good. She's Crunchyroll Hime tier. She might get better tho

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>>11466431
I guess gura doesnt care too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z72qx8yTGDM
Rushia too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI7xCXWe8Qs

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>>11465497
>>11465609
Just wait until the honeymoon period is over, since for the most part EN just haven't had much interaction with JP before now.

I don't mind the weird conversations as long as they at least understand and communicate with each other despite the language barrier.

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>>11461072
No dude, i just really like 2d girls.

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>>11448499
fpbp

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NijisanjiEN needs all furry wave. Its the only way they'll get noticed

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Hololive was pretty brave siding with coco and blowing Chinese antis the fuck out.
The massive balls it takes to cut yourself off from the Chinese market for one of your big talents deserves respect forever.

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>>11451344
>>11450293
Fuck you haters! Crossick is real!

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>>11468895
It's the opposite for me. I started with Holo (mostly Suisei) for the better part of 2020 until I finally gave Niji a chance in around ~August. Unlike Holo, NIjis always have something big going on. Multiple collabs, tournaments, variety shows per month.
Their roster is comprised of a whole bag of wild and crazies that when I think back to all the wild Holomemes that got me hooked on Holo in the first place, I realized that I could find a more extreme version in Niji. Holo just feels bland by comparison.
Don't get me wrong because I still like Holo, especially pre Gen5 and EN, but Niji is now 90% of what I watch now.

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Women can be funny and vtubers have proved that

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>>11461072
People who think like you are no better than ironic weebs.

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>>11448458
Kill yourself holobronies!
>>11448499
Based and true

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>>11448499
Nijichad... I KNEEL

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Vtubing is only viable as a business model because Modernity has destroyed any other form of community/romantic interest that could exist for the vast majority of people who don't just wanna fuck around on Tinder and other assorted product communities.

What the societal implications of this will be in 5, 10, 20 years time has yet to be determined.

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>>11482996
It's ok robots do work soon

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>>11482996
The next logical step is AI girlfriends customized just for you so that you'll inevitably become a gachikoi and work for their sake.

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>>11452405
The only good council designs are Fauna and Mumei.

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>>11452812
Holy fucking based.

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>>11452405
Her hair is fine, the vents are cute. Her outfit is really fucked up and over-detailed though. Wada can do good designs, I'm not sure why she added so much extraneous shit to this one.

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>>11459114
Incredibly based, Coco leaving was ultimately good. At least I don't have to deal with her annoying redditor fans anymore.

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>>11448458
coco has a terrible sense of humor and is the main reason the hololive fanbase is as terrible as it is. it's a good thing she's gone
>inb4 chink
you know it's true

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>>11468108
This is the best opinion.

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>>11483360
VR > R

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>>11478030
I've already seen every wowzers shocking and amazing thing.
I just want a nice way to learn japanese that isn't children's books.

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>>11460564
It makes sense if you are part of a gen, having everyone have their "Birthday" right after each other wouldn't work well. But I agree that their shouldn't be a birthday and an anniversary celebration.

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>>11459683
At some point she jumped the shark hard and became unbearable, probably around the EN gen1 announcement and when she started the gen 0 thing.

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>>11468108
anon, he said unpopular.

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>>11466431
To be fair, Callie's friends dumped her ass because she was a selfish, contrarian, lying snake in the grass about Hololive and Vtubing. Fuck Callie

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>>11448458
unpopular: i still enjoy watching lots of different vtubers. Many of them are better than they've ever been.

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>>11485591
And forgot to add, that advice about tinder, don't.
I used that shit to troll some women because the trash that use that shit are so thirsty it's actually pitiful. Or maybe do if that's your thing.

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>>11448458
>Nijisanji is objectively terrible and people only pretend to like it to be contrarian and not like the most popular thing.
that's not an unpopular opinion that's just a fact

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>>11461072
I watch Vinny and Jerma and Etalyx

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>>11459784
>youtube recommends vods but rarely do they recommend lives
This is wrong
On Youtube, you can get your streams AND VODs recommended which doubles your exposure
I got both type of recommendations a ton
How do you think Hololive even exists at all?
It was because people got Sora's livestream in their recommendations when Shiro's stream was fucked
And people who got recommendation from VODs also still go to livestreams later, I know I do

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>>11477317
I disagree. China are on the same level as SJWs as in you can never please them.
Once they get upset with you for any reason apologizing will just make them realize they have power over you which they will use to destroy you.
Just look at what china did to gaming companies worldwide and even their own. After years of non stop pandering to the chinks they decided to fuck them all over regardless

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>>11477317
china practically cut them off first. Their brand was in shambles. Leaving wasn't brave, it was common sense

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>>11486621
That's... exactly his point...

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>>11486700
it isn't
he said it takes balls
it doesn't
it's the most logical move one person could make

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>>11486621
All will bow to China this century