/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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NANIMITENDAIO KORRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>no navel piercing

RUINED

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>just makes me miss coco all the more

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>>11513142
damn she went full on bosozoku, i like it

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UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>11513142
She looks like she fucks angel girls

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>>11513142
Looks good, the only thing missing is my face under her ass.

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she is 1,89cm tall??? is this real? wtf

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>>11513142
Yaman mama delivers again.

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kson torpedo tits...

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>>11513142

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>>11513905
>Tongue piercing
Holy shit she went all out

[Anonymous No.]

this is one of the best things ive ever woken up to

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>>11513905
d-do you think her nipples are also pierced?

[Anonymous No.]

damn she went all fucking in with everything

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>>11514603
200%. And with rings, not just studs.

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If she can get a model this good, what's stopping corporations from upgrading their members models? is it pure greed?

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>>11514768
>what's stopping corporations from upgrading their members models
Nothing. There are loads of indies with better models and rigging than most of Hololive and Nijisanji.

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>>11514768
ive always gotten the impression that its just a visual consistancy thing

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>>11514768
>>11514838
some sort of reverse economies of scale

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It was worth the wait this new model is dope !

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She really likes the glorify the people that tortured a girl to death in a barrel huh?

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>>11514768
No reason to blow all that money so fast for something like that when they have something serviceable.

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>>11513905
what a cute bitch

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>>11513142
>you may live in the timeline of watching biker girl boss and her dork angel girlfriend play games together.

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>>11514991
based

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>>11514991
there's always this one retard

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>>11513208
Belly piercing will fuck you over in a fight

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>>11514991
Yes.

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>>11514991
shut up chiner bugmen

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is the the best rigging created to this date?

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Will she delete her old stuff now or that also stays?

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Who the fuck drew and rigged this?

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>>11514991
it was a bunch of students iirc

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wow that will look great during the reddit meme reviews

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>>11515273
it was me

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I want to start making Vtuber models (i wanna be a mama), watching Kson new model is a feast for my eyes. She can even turn her face in profile, this is so high level! Makes me want to study even more. This is one of the best models i've ever seen, the desing, the rigging, the poses, the variations, the piercings
This is top notch!

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>>11513142
did Melody get a new costume?

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>>11515273
A joint effort by Takeshi and Shinzo Abe

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>>11515111
OH FUCK HER PUSSY IS SO PHAT THAT IS BOUNCES

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>>11515273
Drew: Yaman-mama, she's Coco's mama too.
Rigged: Himono, she is amazing and literally makes Live2D rigging and drawing guides on her channel. I had a brief uncanny valley moment when I first saw her because her rigging is just this good. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8g5_Cua_Q8dkrbRl4uDEkQ

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>>11514768
I'd argue that to pull this off you need a really great computer to pull this off, so seeing as the talents seem to be in charge of their own equipment (besides the phone for the Live 2D), it's a mix between >>11514871 and just general lack of a need.
Would be great to see all of the girls moving this smooth and have fun props, but is that really what people are watching for? Doesn't really seem to be the case, so if they're not an indie, they really don't need to stand out, and therefore would be sunk profit where it isn't needed.

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>>11514991
maybe both sides were at fault

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>>11515400
>Rigged: Himono, she is amazing and literally makes Live2D rigging and drawing guides on her channel. I had a brief uncanny valley moment when I first saw her because her rigging is just this good. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8g5_Cua_Q8dkrbRl4uDEkQ
By far one of the best riggers on the scene

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>>11514768
money, consistency
they can't really use the new shit on one person without everyone else feeling left out

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>>11515298
They were street level 'little brothers', and the yakuza has protected them from vigilante justice ever since, as keeping them alive spreads the message that the yakuza are untouchable no matter what.

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>>11513142
What's stopping Gura from going to her rigger?

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>>11514691
bars

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>>11515500
Gura has no say on who does her model.

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>>11514768
single person vs many
design with caricature vs premade design
Investing in oneself vs investing in an employee

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>>11514768
If you were running a large group chances are you'd eventually cut corners in the name of saving money

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>>11515500
cover corp

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>>11515494
sounds pretty based, glad they're being celebrated like this

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did the details page say she was 180cm or 189cm?

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>>11515500
Hololive. The model isn't hers, It belongs to the company.

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>>11515180
it may very well be, it looks amazing

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>>11515400
>Himono
I didn't know one of the artist I follow would be this good at Live2D holy shit.

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>>11515500
"Gura" is Cover's property, and the person behind it has no rights over it.

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>>11515570
You're so cool and edgy!

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how can you guys point "consistency" for bad rigging when we have Irys

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>>11513142
Goddamn. Happy for you Ksonfags.

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>>11515500
why is gura always brough up in every fucking thread?

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>>11515600
And yet they make the talents pay for any accessories they want. Great company.

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>>11513427
But the angel is the one with a dick...

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>>11515630
just like kson! I'm such a maddafakka!

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>>11515677
Pay if you want your shit fixed, pay for your own PC and setup, deal with your technical problems by yourself, and don't you dare ask us to get permissions for more games than Minecraft.

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>>11515746
In return you get filthy rich of simpbux, seems like a good deal to me.

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>>11515677
>>11515600
>>11515500
>>11515566
Reminder that others like Matsuri paid extra afterwards to have their shit fixed by a non-retard.
Gura is just cheap and lazy.

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>>11515797
*50ish% of the simpbux after Youtube and Cover take their cuts.

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>>11513142
>wake up
>she's able to slave squat on command

I love this bitch

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>>11514991
if you mean this outfit, it's a style of outfit used by hundreds of biker gangs in japan. so trying to tie it to a specific one is kinda hilarious. tons of anime glorify yakuza and biker gangs or highschool gangs. nice try zhang

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>>11515857
Still a good deal considering how much they still get after all of that.

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>>11515885
Teabagging when?

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https://twitter.com/himono_vtuber/status/1449345214359871492?t=5qbF3y1QN1VxbMmKkM6-vw&s=19
Demo reel of the full rigging, amazing work.

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>>11515797
kson proves you don't need a corp behind you. she's pulling in big numbers even without them

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>>11515902
not soon enough

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>>11515838
several talents have had things fixed, including gura. do you not remember how her eyes were fucking spazzing for the first month? if you didn't notice the changes that's only cause she didnt make a stream out of it. cause she absolutely got a lot fixed from debut

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>>11513142
Grace, Elegance, Adorably, Rebellious. Wow I haven't seen a design this good for a looong time which can fit so many element. Kiryu-chan unleash her true power.

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>>11515939
kek, you really think that?

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>>11515939
All of the numbers are from her hololive fanbase that followed her.

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>>11515939
I mean, after ditching them, yeah. Otherwise, have fun being stuck as a 2 view.

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>>11513142
I like this, I'm ok with this, hopefully she stops showing her face all the time.

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>>11515961
and then they fucked it up worse on her summer outfit by using the same shitty rigger, and you know they'll just do it again and again

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>>11515939
She owes all her numbers to Yagoo

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>>11515857
probably closer to 30% from the way it was phrased by talents. plus you also still pay for a lot of things that people assume cover gives you, and most of them were told to buy it FROM cover. kiara and calli were the first to go around the corp to buy music it seems, as many of the talents were shocked by their music output and started doing more on their own after.
basically cover sucks, is what im saying. they happened to make a good thing, but they have been holding it back for years with bureaucracy, red tape, and excessive fees/cuts of profit.

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>>11515890
>tons of anime glorify yakuza and biker gangs or highschool gangs
That makes it okay to glorify people who torture a girl to death in a barrel of course, argumentum ad populum.

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>>11513142
I kneel...

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>>11516009
>>11516018
>>11516025

give Xi my best regards!

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>>11515939
She brought her fanbase from Kiryu Coco, I'm pretty sure that's why she is using the same kind of jokes and style. Before the announcement her channel had more or less 130k, maybe some anon can tell how many subs she had before Hololive, I'm sure that 30k at most

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>>11516134
did you know that girl personally or something you seem really hung up on that fact

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>>11516134
it's okay if it's in an anime

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>>11516134
hope she sees this bro

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>>11516141
Are you delusional? That wasn't even a statement against Kson, it's just facts
join Hololive>leave>retain numbers
Had Kson skip the "join Hololive" part she'd be a 2 view, simple as that

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>>11516134
>people who torture a girl to death in a barrel of course
bro you keep bringing up one gang out of hundreds, if not thousands. this is like seeing one white person with a nazi shirt and saying all white people are nazis. but keep going zhang we're really ching chonging to your ding donging

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>>11516141
calling me a zhang won't make it any less true.

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>>11515631
IRyS is a strange case where her model looks kind of bad still but looks great in motion.

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>>11516141
i started shitting on her just to spite whiteknights like you

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>>11516161
those viewers would have found her regardless. her level of content can't be ignored

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>>11516134
Japanese are usually like this, they are still playing the victim in the WW2 with the nukes when they deserved it

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>>11516194
>still but looks great in motion.
Your standards have been lowered

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>inspire one used in official merch
>>>>inspire

They didn't get shit for it lmao

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>>11515352
I'm glad not beeing the only one seeing Melody in her new model

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>>11514768
If Cover dropped thousands of dollars on riggers, artists, etc for every talent, they'd go out of business. Kson is an indie with a bottomless wallet.

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>>11513142
Diet Melody. I can't believe people actually like this but hate on Vshojo designs.

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>>11516232
Eat shit. IRyS has some of the cutest expressions in Hololive. You seen her smile? Shit's adorable.

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>>11516268
You lack eyes sir

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>>11516268
bro you are trying waaaayy to hard, it looks nothing like melody

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>>11516268
she's Japanese, she's automatically better than any western whore

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>>11515857
And yet you forget that kson would still be a 2view if not for them. Mori would still be a literal who in some shitty venue probably getting date raped. Gura would have died of alcohol poisoning after making her latest shitty meme video

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>>11516211
I'm not telling you otherwise, she has obviously talent and she has a lot of experience now from Hololive, at this point is imprecise to know how well her channel would have grown without any holo influence, maybe 500k or maybe 50k, we will never know clearly

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>>11516303
lol she's hapa, even worse

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>>11516166
I don't need to know someone personally to know that torturing them to death is wrong, nor to know that the glorification of the torturers is wrong.

>>11516189
>Not all Yakuza.
Lmao, your brain is gone.

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>>11516192
the chinese antis are getting desperate and it's fucking pathetic lol

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>>11516134
idk about the barrel thing, but youre not giving any speifics of who did what. there were tons of biker and bosozoku gangs in japan back in the day, and many were just anti-tradition and pro-feminist who didnt want to be seen as these seiso innocent tiny mouthed women anymore. they were badass and liked loud bikes. you're just casting a wide net based on an incident youve yet to source.

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>>11516192
go back and watch a sub count history for hololive, coco caused it to explode and it's super obvious that she did. that is why all the other talents praise her constantly. but sure keep praising the corporation which takes a lot of money from all their talents and leaves them hanging for months at a time. literally half the holotalk interviews have mentioned how they used to go months without hearing from a manger, having to constantly beg for help getting music to do cover songs etc etc and always being left to twist in the wind.
the talents made hololive, not the other way around.

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>>11516303
Is Kson actually Japanese? I know she's asian but she's from the fucking south of America. Do we know what flavour of asian her parents were?

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The girls are what holds up Hololive but at the end of the day the corpo owns their models and most of them can't leave and retain viewers.

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>>11516268
>hate on Vshojo designs
Who the fuck hates it? I never knew someone saying the designs are bad

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>>11513584
>taller than most men in the west
>goes to a country where women are 5 feet tall on average

Imagine the predation.

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>>11516268
i've seen better bait on /m/, do better

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>>11516208
>white knight
she doesn't need a white knight, she can defend herself. she would have blown the fuck up even bigger without hololive smothering her creativity. in the next few months we're going to see her crush her old coworkers in numbers

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>>11516340
He's talking about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta

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>>11513584
doubt on this one chief

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>>11516236
to be fair his is just a flag with pizza instead of stars set into a circle frame. the merch version the flag is shaped like a pizza.

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>>11516343
Come on, you can't be this delusional. Coco played a part but she isn't the sole cause of hololive's success.

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>>11516276
I like irys, but I've seen horses with cuter smiles
>>11516325
and you do realize we're on 4chan right, there's someone out there right NOW who's most likely either fapping to it, or drawing underground hentai based on it, thanks to your bitching

you must be proud, if I were that girl I wouldn't want anyone talking about it in any fashion you dumb fucking retard

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>>11516276
The problem with defending IRyS' model is that the retards who were filtered by it might start watching her and then the threads will get shitted up, when IRyS threads are some of the higher quality threads on /vt/ right now due to fewer tards.

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>>11516324
okay so to literally everyone that's not japanese she's... japanese

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>>11516381
>ywn witness the american dragon domination the pp of tenshi

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>>11516408
>>11516381
There is no way Kson is 6'2"

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>>11516391
>she doesn't need a white knight
then why are you so butthurt when people criticize her?

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>>11516134
Yeah, I don't like Germans either since they are all Nazis!

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>>11516399
>her name was literally Junko

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>>11516325
>Not all Yakuza.
uhh it's not yakuza you chink, its calls bosozoku, but you'd know that if you weren't behind the great firewall

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>>11516399
I can't still comprehend how someone can be that monster

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>>11516399
2ch keeps constant track of where the killers live, but nobody can get at them because of the Yakuza protection.

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>>11516268
Soul vs Soulless. Actual well thought out design, created by the God himself Yamman papa. over some overly designed Neon lights hodgepodge piece of shit. Get some standards before posting on Kson's board. I mean, We don't call her /vt/s favorite vtuber for nothing. Chadson I kneel.

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>>11513584
>>11516442
https://youtu.be/X45w13u5HFI
She's your average Japanese woman height, probably 155-160cm.

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>>11513584
She's a womanlet who wants to be amazon sized.
But I like this lore.

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>>11516268
Nobody shits on vshoujo for their designs. Heck bae has a cool ass desing but her acting as a cheap phone hooker bored with streaming ruins it all.

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>>11513142
I'm glad she's truly back. The model and rigging are stupidly good

Has she talked about what she intends to do? is she setting up a new company or just an indie endeavor?

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>>11516414
im not saying she was, but it wasn't yagoo and cover. it was the girls, and all of them recognize coco as having one of the largest impacts to date.

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That's what I anticipated and was telling you on this board.
That's her signal of rebellion.
her ex-coworkers will desert the Japanese middle aged CEO one after another to join her army.
The fight under the flag of the socho will go on until we overthrow the empire of evil...

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>>11516414
he might be over stating it a tad but she did help develop the foundations of what the EN ended up being, and like most prototypes she was all over the place unlike the refined production models

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>>11516366
Nice bait. Also LURK MORE.

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>>11513584
i think this might be kiryu's height, which makes sense

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>>11516476
>Neon lights hodgepodge
This. I don't get why they blasted their designs with neon lights.

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>>11516399
jesus christ

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>>11516416
>and you do realize we're on 4chan right, there's someone out there right NOW who's most likely either fapping to it, or drawing underground hentai based on it, thanks to your bitching
That's argumentum ad populum again.
>you must be proud, if I were that girl I wouldn't want anyone talking about it in any fashion you dumb fucking retard
And I don't even know what fallacy this is but it's ridiculous.
The only reason you're defending Kson is because you are a simp willing to throw anything and everything you have away not even for her real attention, but for the IDEA that if she did know about you, she would like what you were doing.

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>>11516385
The worst baits are always somehow the best at baiting unsuspecting newfaggoted tourists.

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>>11516473
You'd think the Yakuza would have had them whacked after that, if only because christ that's gotta sour any attempt to look good.

Seems like the boys were probably sons of higher ranking members, if I had to guess.

>>11516469
Yeah it's fucking nuts, but at this point I've read worse. Junko sticks out because of how well documented it was.

>>11516534
Yeah. I think someone did a retelling via a manga.

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>>11513584
Estimations based on 3d model scuff and kson's camera time is that she's somewhere over 1,70m. Not titanic, but definitely huge for japan.

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>>11516493
>Has she talked about what she intends to do?
Milk fags for all they're worth and not have to giver cover a cut. She'll probably show her tits on stream once in a while like the whore she is too, such is the creativity she ditched Hololive for

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>>11516423
He's talking shit about my oshi, man. Though you're probably right I still want IRyS to be successful. She's one of the holoEN streamers that's actually fun to watch solo.

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And who will be the one leaving Holo to join her first?

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>>11516581
dude what is your problem? literally every japanese media talks about the bozosoku, it's like trying to say people playing yakuza games are enabling theft and murder, calm down, it's just a vtuber dawg

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>>11516399
That is pretty fucking disgusting, I can't even imagine the pain she mustve been in, but I don't see any bosozoku or biker gang's mentioned. Only Yakuza, and even then this seems pretty extreme even for them.

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>>11516134
lol bringing up one incident from 30+ years ago to try and tie it to a style that was around for like 60 years and still in use today. fucking mint. let's talk about every style of clothing every murderer ever wore and make those also unacceptable to wear.

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>>11516534
yeah but they're so stylish!

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>>11516658
Kiara

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>>11516407
Yeah and I'm sure he recognizes that too hence his wording. Still feel a little bad for the simp though.

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>>11516667
bro he cant calm down, he can't get his government portioned rice if he doesnt keep fighting to defend the motherland. they might give him little dimsum if he keeps at this rate.

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>>11514768
Hololive/Nijisanji would rather hire the same shit riggers/artists.

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>>11516581
Go back to twitter

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>>11516701

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>>11516590
Youre not wrong

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>>11516596
They want the people they influence and control to fear the Yakuza as much as they want the masses as a whole to not be concerned by them. Keeping the boys alive let's the media know what they're willing to do, and that let's them influence how much reporting on Yakuza activities the media gets to do. If someone thinks about reporting on LDP construction kickbacks, the Yakuza can just point to the girl in the barrel and say 'are you sure you want to write about that?'

>>11516667
>dude what is your problem?
I'm not the one trying to justify the glorification of the people who raped, tortured and murdered an innocent girl and of the people who protect the murderers, so I'm say I'm not the one with the problem, you are.

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>>11516399
>If you appeal your sentence, the appellate court can make it worse.
Holy shit the Japanese legal system gets funnier every time I read about it.

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>>11514768
Apple syndrome, why improve when everyone will watch it anyway.

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>>11516581
Xi's really calling in reinforcements

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>>11513142
She looks like a vshojo. No soul.
The only thing left of her is being a bitch.

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>>11516249
this is a really funny post

[Anonymous No.]

Herro Ferrow Zhangs!

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>11514991
>11516134
>11516325
>11516581
Ok class, this is what we call bait, please don't interact with bait.
Thread was good until you started interacting with this schiz

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>>11516778
I'm always a bit leery of glorifying yakuza but kson's model isn't that. It's pretty overtly sukeban/biker style, and they weren't involved in Junko's death.

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>>11516817
You may need to consult an eye doctor.

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>>11516414
>she isn't the sole cause of hololive's success.
There is no way on God's green earth you'd actually believe this when there's data and trends that prove and say otherwise.

It's simple. One day Coco shows up to hololive HQ. Asacoco attracts a lot of newfags and nijisanji tourists. Hololive profits. Without Coco, there would be no Reddit Buff. No Seanigger buff. No Taiwan, Hong Kong and China buff. And there would be no /jp/ /vt/ buff. Not to the mention, the great American buff. Coco single handedly carried hololive to what it is now. Before Coco hololive was boring and had zero synergy or chemistry. Pre Coco Hololive felt like a poor man's Nijisanji. Those are the facts. Deal with it.

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>>11516778
Ok? You wanna write an angry letter to creators of Yakuza series?

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>>11516841
It's simple, by pretending to mock the cause you support, you can hide among the enemy

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>>11516778
I hope you don't play call of duty or any historical shooting game. Heck you probably should play any RTS historical games either... and you probably should stay away from management games involving companies. Never mind criminal glorifying Games like san andreas and the like....
i mean you aren't a complete hypocrite are you?

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>>11516878
SEGA is a yakuza front so it's pretty obvious why they softball yakuza in those games.

It's why Judgement is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516860
so the biker gangs are all good guys?

[Anonymous No.]

Stop replying to the Twitter SJW already

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516476
Based kiryu poster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516916
so humans are all good guys

[Anonymous No.]

name a worse thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516916
No, but they weren't involved in Junko's death. I mean I like leather jackets and motorcycles and by all accounts most greasers were shitbags.

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>>11516871
she was clearly the most popular, even moreso than pekora. and no, guru's dead subs don't count

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>>11516658
matsuri, she was SC on roommate during the debut and has slowly been unraveling over the past few months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTpmMRah3g&t=2s
her channel has had a noticeable decrease in growth due to her apex arc and flirting with randos in voice chat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oshN1Sy4wRw
don't get me wrong, i personally dont think there's anything wrong with it. but she wasn't a heavy fps gamer and kinda leaned into GFE so both of these are kinda off her core brand and seems to be alienating her current fans. a fresh start might be just the thing she needs.

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>>11516778
have you taken your meds yet, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516973
She had 15k less average viewers than Pekora and Marine

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>>11516476
My knees are weak. Full Dōgeza.

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>>11516878
>Ok? You wanna write an angry letter to some mid-level Yakuza.
That seems like a wasted effort.
>>11516893
False equivalence fallacy, a war is not the same as the justification of glorifying the raping, torturing and murdering a schoolgirl for fun. You really should learn how to argue from something other than fallacy.

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What do I carr kson ferrow bugs? E-thot? Serr out?? Herp prease

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513142
>this girl has real and canonical stomach problems
Just image her squatting on your head during a gassy episode..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516953
that is the worst, most willfully stupid fucking argument I've ever seen on this site, and that's saying some shit

[Anonymous No.]

Why are (You) complaining about a cosplayer because someone who dress like that rape a girl? A football team raped a girl in a small town that neant all football player and their fan are rapist too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516976
I don't think Matsuri will join kson in any capacity. From the rrats I've heard Matsuri came onto Coco and got told to go away, which is part of what started her decline.

If anything Matsuri will just start doing porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516581
She deserved it just like Nanking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516787
That's normal in every country though

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516871
Early 2020 was the age of Coco and her influence in hololive, she set in motion more casual interactions between members, and showed them that you can make jokes, laugh at each other expense, make goofy content and genuinely have fun.
But then the management came...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516134
Meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517000
<believing the youtube glitch numbers
just go look at reddit, she was a fucking star compared to the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517043
the lack of self awareness is astounding, go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517074
Wow! Another really cool and edgy person who is definitely over the age of 14! Can you teach me how to be as cool and edgy as you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516973
>dead subs
>highest vod viewership
I'm not even a numbers fag and I know this

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517058
Is a football club a criminal gang? Did the fans glorify the rape? Why is nobody on /vt/ capable of forming an arguement without fallacy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517013
>Ok? You wanna write an angry letter to some mid-level Yakuza.
>That seems like a wasted effort.
That was sarcasm btw, go take your meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517092
I'm positive that Matsuri pissing herself on stream was way older than that. It's just that management got stricter overall in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517148
That's the joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517137
>Did the fans glorify the rape?
So you know nothing about football fans, huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517148
>>11517172
I genuinely wonder how some random ass mid level yakuza would react to a random westerner writing him an angry letter about Junko.

[Anonymous No.]

has yaman done any other models besides ksons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516871
This. People underestimate just how popular Coco was during her peak. She's literally the fastest JP holomem to hit a million subscribers. And she's the first in hololive to break a 100k concurrent liveviewers. Coco overshadowed everyone in hololive but sadly she's gone now. Chadryu Chadco will be missed dearly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517203
How would that be any of his concern lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517203
Mine's already drafted and ready to send, I guess we'll find out soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516276
>in Hololive
There's the problem

[Anonymous No.]

are the mods asleep? why can this SJWpolfag keep posting shit about yakuza when her design has nothing to do with yakuza?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517203
Probably the same way posters here do here:
>'Not all Yakuza are like that! Please buy Yakuza 8: Yakuza Are Really Honorable And Shit We Swear'!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517203
They'd probably have the sender killed, no matter where they lived.typnt4wkk0

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517226
It wouldn't be. That's why it's a funny thought.

>>11517227
Godspeed, anon. Remember to hand deliver it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517137
Generally speaking, yes and yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517243
Yeah, anyone who thinks the glorification of the murders who tortured and raped a girl to death is an SJW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517270
>thinking yakuza are actually relevant or powerful enough anymore to do that
They are literally a bunch of larpers jacking off to the "good ol days" at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517204
Yura from Prism is a Yaman daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513584
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/805333625973587968

from her weight and bmi here you can use the bmi equation to get height. she is 155cm

[Anonymous No.]

I need to know if this model has a dumpy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11514768
anything will start deteriorating and falling apart when you bog it down with needless bureaucracy. too much corporate bureaucracy and risk aversion make worse products

[Anonymous No.]

first taiwan, now yakuza. controversy brings in the big bucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517301
Yeah I remember reading an article about how their organizations are dying. Makes me wonder what's replacing them. Gangs? Triads moving in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517243
>dressed like a Japanese criminal
>has nothing to do with japanese criminals
hoo boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517270
The Yakuza isn't an all powerful organization. They couldn't do shit unless the sender was in the same city as them and even then they probably wouldn't be able to do shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517299
its not yakuza you fucking faggot, go back to twitter you white tranny fuck. god white liberal men pretending to be women are annoying as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517301
They LITERALLY control the Japanese government and entertainment industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517327
here let me do some fucking reps for you because your brain seems to be swiming in wonton soup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8Ds%C5%8Dzoku

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517323
Nigerians from Kabukicho. Soon they will rally and their ruthless iron grip will be feared across the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517331
this, yakuza are literally just local business extortionists
source: the yakuza series

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517013
>False equivalence fallacy, a war is not the same as the justification of glorifying the raping, torturing and murdering a schoolgirl for fun.
Ok so you don't play san Andrea's or any other games where you take the role of a criminal right?
Also raping killing and torturing a single girl fucking nothing compared to the horrors of war or other shit done in the past. Where genocide and torture of entire population where often used as a weapon of terror.
Now that i think about i sure hope you don't play rock of the ages, either, where they humanize and try to make murderes, torurers and rapist who killed thousands and thousands seem funny.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe Im just a fuggen bakagaijin, but aren't bosozoku and yakuza not even mutually exclusive? were talking about biker and rebel culture in japan - which is what kson's referencing, not yakuza.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517355
Imagine still believing this

[Anonymous No.]

Where are the lewds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517301
LMAO are you joking? People don't know where the LDP ends and the Yamaguchi-gumi begins. The very first thing the newly selected prime-minister did was start construction kickbacks to Yakuza owned companies. Japan is a mafia state beyond Russia, it just has much, much better PR, partly thanks to all the positive media they get in games like the Yakuza series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517355
>I played ALL the Yakuza games I KNOW what I'm talking about
>No I've never been to Japan how is that relevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517379
It's just anons sperging out. Probably chinks in disguise wanting to stir up shit now that west Taiwans No. 1 enemy is genuinely back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517302
Didn't know of Yura's existence so ty lol
damn yaman's work is so good , surprised they don't have more models out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517358
>Wikipedia
ah yes the arbiter of truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517374
>playing a game is the same as openly promoting a lifestyle on you platform with thousands and thousands of viewers

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbuHqf7BJ8

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517379
It's literally a random bug trying to force a meme, he's not trying to make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

the amount of seething bait in this thread makes me really want to hail the independent nation of taiwan for some reason. cant wait for the wontons to try shit only to be taken out by the burger-sushi alliance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516176
She probably can't, since I heard she was tortured to death in a barrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517382
you bought the reverse propaganda, congrats at being easily played

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517431
Kson can t bag me on command

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517390
>pot, meet kettle

[Anonymous No.]

I really like the model and bosozoku style, and I like kson, but the model makes me imagine a deeper voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517458
post the other copypasta, and do it on all threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517431
This is amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516324
except she's not a hapa

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517461
They're not as completely irrelevant as the American mob but they aren't some massive shadow government behind all of Japan. Saying they control all of the Japanese government and entertainment industry is hyperbolic.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, China just fucking owns this place, it's amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517430
No it might be worse because you are also financially supporting the people who made said glorification in the first place. Perpetuating this sort of ideology far beyond your lifespan.
You definitely should be ashamed of yourself, according to your won standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517569

> She's not very good = China

[Anonymous No.]

Stop replying to the SJW bug and the SJW bug goes away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517523
she grew in the west, she's hapa in my eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515939
That reasoning only works if you pretend her previous vtuber gig, and the shitload of money she made back then, never happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517609
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513417

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>>11517618

Spotted the Too Online anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517668

>>11517707

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517609
>anything I don't agree with = China
it makes me think it's the Chinese themselves false flagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517667
it's wild they can look at those two pics right there and those 30+ posters still fell for the bait
Hair up means melody I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517618
it's funny how they adopt gweilo tactic so easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517756
Implying you aren't responding to a CCCP operative

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513142
The sitting model has the same problem all other similar models have - it's proportioned very weirdly. Her hands and legs look tiny in comparison to her head and torso. The standing rig is pretty damn good though. This rigger seems really good, although she herself shows off her skills better than Kson does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrL2_0PHqtE&t=205s
Although with Yaman-mama's model Kson really solidifies herself as not-Coco. I wanted to see something a bit more creative I guess, but it looks nice, and that's good enough.
Her numbers are kinda shit though, I expected way more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517740

It's not and go outside

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517782
that would be better

[Anonymous No.]

The queen is back

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517782

You're boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517817

> Her numbers are kinda shit though, I expected way more.

No one cares about her anymore. That and Vtubers are not hot anymore. Blame Squid Game

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517489
Yeah, the girl wants to be a cool gangbanger, but she's way too squeaky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517904
Once again the koreans have destroyed everything I love

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516601
No wonder she gets along with Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517837
sounds like something Xi would pay you to post

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517938
w-what happened the firs time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513142
>tongue piercing
>choker
BUILT FOR DEEPTHROATING

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517955

Get new material

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517904
Squid game is an absolute fad. SAMe could be said about vtubers but they proved enduring to an extent. As long as people and corporations stop spamming new ones nonstop i can see them staying relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515400
Holy shit that rigging. Cover corp, what the fuck are you doing? Step up your game!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515902
She did when she was showing it off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517964
That's a little too personal to share. Let's just say that it involved a boyband and a LOT of kimchi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517817
I think her numbers are pretty solid for an indie. One could argue a good chunk of her audience, foreigners mostly, don't know about the Kson persona yet.
I'm a bit of an autist, so the old 3d model she was using was too jarring and distracting, so I wasn't watching much, but with the new model and her renewed energy, I'll certainly tune in

Then again, If in 2-3 months, the numbers only go down, then I agree with you. But I'm betting on the growth side

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518004

> As long as people and corporations stop spamming new ones nonstop

Never happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518021
I hate hypocrite Cocofags who claims to miss and love Coco yet does not know about Kson's existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518072
most foreigners are casual watchers, and her meme videos easily attracted that kind of audience

[Anonymous No.]

Bottom line is, this proves kson is popular despite, not because of, Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518126
Kek no. I like kson, anon, I do. But she would be nothing without holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518126
She paid for this model with the money she got from hololive and the audience was primarily watched by fans she got from hololive. Like it or not it's an undeniable fact that most of her success can be attributed to hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518126
She's popular because of hololive and without it she would still be a noname indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518021
With the new model, growth would be expected, so we'll see. We'll also see how often she would actually use her Vtuber model.
>One could argue a good chunk of her audience, foreigners mostly, don't know about the Kson persona yet.
Not really, everyone was talking about it after graduation. But she was always pretty bad about her foreign audience. She doesn't speak a lot of English, she doesn't really pander to foreigners in any way, so they get bored and leave. Back in the old days, you would only see English speakers in meme reviews and AsaCoco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518126
I'd say it was a mutual benefit scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518187
You got it backwards, the Girls made Hololive what it is.
And now that Hololive is a thing, joining it nets you a free 200k subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518273
>And now that Hololive is a thing, joining it nets you a free 200k subs
Sooooo.... you're saying that hololive can be directly attributed to their success due to the corporate network and organization that they do
Which means you proved their point

[Anonymous No.]

Think she has enough money to get a 3D Model too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518072
And without Coco hololive would still be indie tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518072
Coco worked best inside the infrastructure set up by hololive and with her interactions with the other talents
The memes in the meme reviews are always shit but what made it interesting was her showing the other talents at hololive how they were perceived by a western fanbase
Not too mention her ongoing character narratives with chuubas like watame and kanata.
Now we just have a halfu egirl who knows how to maintain a balance between JOP and EOP audiences simultaneously, is knowledgeable about meme culture, and is decent enough at vidya
Still more going for her than your average indie but nothing amazing
Also whatever anybody thinks of zhangs, her radioactivity to that market will forever be a major debuff to her career, if not viewership wise, definitely monetarily with game permissions and sponsorship deals
Also the occasional facefagging will definitely be a turnoff for a portion of her holo audience, let alone flashing her ass, and the weird boob cam

tl;dr: without hololive kson goes from an great chuuba to just an ok chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518431
3d collab with melody when

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518468
hololive would've been better desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518341
I think I was pretty clear
Hololive was nothing for 1 and a half years
Talented girls joined, their success made Hololive big
And now that Hololive is big, their brand is a seal of quality. Because people expect more talented girls.

So yeah, Girls made Hololive big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518522
Just imagine, No EN, no reddit, and no chink spam.

[Anonymous No.]

Multiple Kson threads all hitting bump limit within minutes from each other. Where's the "/vt/s favorite vtuber" poster!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518230
I had some people thank me on TikTok for pointing them to her new persona.
There's a huge ammount of casual ex-viewers out there, and I just nuked myself for saying TikTok, but that's what I wanted to point out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518570

EP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518583
go back nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515415
You absolutely do not need a really great computer to run a model like this. Live2D models are very lightweight. It's all about the rigger's expertise
t. a Live2D rigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518529
Yeah except without the connections made specifically because of the company doing scouting and networking they would not have blown up. Each individual girl would still be a 2view. It's a collective, not the work of individuals. Kson is riding on the coattails of that success, not the other way around. Does she deserve it? Sure. But I'm not going to pretend she's the one that "made" hololive what it is just because I get a hardon for saying "cover bad lul"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518559
>hololive is left with artia as the face of english speaking holos

kek lmao yagoo in that timeline roped from the shamefur dispray

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518570
The best idol and and the greatest influential figure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515918
Look at all these animations that will never be used.

[Anonymous No.]

kson is the best vtuber right now, and the new model cements this as a fact

[Anonymous No.]

The model is pretty good but it kinda annoys me a little that she is looking at the viewer at an angle. I hope there is a alt version or setting to make it so she is looking straight ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517904
>Blame Squid Game
Current fad being shilled to hell and back by the korean government lining the pockets of youtube, twitter and whatever else

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518774
She will never look the unworthy in the eyes. It's beneath her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518769
*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.]

>>11514991
he's right. idolising yakuza culture is just as bad as idolising nigger culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518664
>Kson is riding on the coattails of that success, not the other way around
That's a dumb statement, Hololive is riding on Coco's success in the west, she was the one who made Vtubers a thing in the west. And you can thank her for HoloEN.

The scouting part is true though, because it's that talent that brought them to where they are.

[Anonymous No.]

that's not a cameltoe that's an entire megatylopus
cunt so powerful it can be used in place of vice to bend stainless steel tubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518780
>unironically a good, well acted show
iTs A cOnSpiRaCy

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518814
She is still looking at us in the eyes though? Just at an angle like an autismo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516134
>biker gangs are one gang

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515352
>>11516246

It would make sense considering they're doing a collab soon and they've been friends since either were vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518834

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518950
he's right you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518931
This place will absolutely lose its shit and pretend that kson isn't just like the vshojo except japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518999
Yeah for 5 minutes just like with Kiara and Nyanners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518834
Don't look down on Miko and Korone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518834
western vtubing owes everything to a humble shrine maiden who said one magical word

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517137
>Is a football club a criminal gang? Did the fans glorify the rape?
Retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518999
yeah but she got a cool model and isn't a basic white bitch like half of vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517137
people glorify FBI & CIA, the honeytrap murderhobo pedo trafficking drug cartel central

[Anonymous No.]

>>11514768
>what's stopping corporations from upgrading their members models?
Cover is using their own app which is kind of limited and garbage. Kson is definitely using Vtube Studio for her new live2D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513142
Nah, I miss when her tits were the size of my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519325
It's a good trade-off. Slightly smaller tits but the rest of the model is now pure sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519325
they are BOUND

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519068
>Miko
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519419
They were bound in her New Years costume too but you could still see how huge they were

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519104
"A" isn't a word, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519550
hownew

[Anonymous No.]

>>11518999
Did they not already know it was confirmed?
https://youtu.be/2aRODmUJC6I?t=34

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519106

Chama is a drink?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517817
>Her numbers are kinda shit though, I expected way more.
I'm not sure why you're expecting so much on viewer numbers when she's just an indie now.

[Anonymous No.]

No, chama is a snack

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517408
Fuck off tranny, learn to read

[Anonymous No.]

>thread suddenly devolved into numberfagging
I'm out. these people are unironically the worst posters in this whole fucking board. Kill yourselves, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513584
She just want to be white. Like every normal chink.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519808
>cites normie source
>gets called out
>invokes boogeyman
I don't know what to tell you other than please try harder next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517043
bro, the one who made the most stupid argument is u.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515703
Amazon position

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517299
ur just an attention whore at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516473
Is the yakuza even that powerful anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520524
see
>>11517301

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520524
The Yakuza operate out of legitimate front groups that are called "patriotic organizations"

Yakuza in japan portray themselves as organizations similar to like knights of columbus or Lions/Elks club or masons in USA. (Doin charity events, community building shit like halloween events for kids)

Thats why their shitty money lending businesses can have open offices you can visit because they are "legit"

They played a major role in keeping socialism/communism out of Japan and were partially funded on backend by American postwar government in Japan. (Who openly tried to get rid of them while they were paying them on downlow.

For the most part yes they still have some power but less than before due to some crime reforms in Japan. Yakuza don't tend to live long because most of them are addicted to meth and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520683
the one who kept socialism out fo Japan was the guy who assassinated the leader of the socalist party

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520830
LONG LIVE OTOYA YAMAGUCHI

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516249
>he doesnt know how much comissions costs
>he doesnt know how much hololive's riggers costs
They already spend dozens of thousands of dollars in each talents. And they keep rehiring shitty riggers
>>11520683
>>11520524
Yakuza these days are just some kind of state's secret service. They do everything the goverment need to do in secret, like the mafia or the "Ultras/Barras" in latinamerica

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520899

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516399
The most horrible thing about democracy is the fact that the crime of killing someone isnt punishable with Execution. Imagine dying knowing that your killer will be free after some meme sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516473
I know a guy. I'll have him take care of it, you'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520899
That cuck ass killed a guy trying to get Japan free from the Amerimutt boot

[Anonymous No.]

>>11521976
...by placing it under chink boot. The lad's a hero

[Anonymous No.]

>>11521587
The funny thing is that 2 of them were found guilty of assault years later and both got light sentences (despite being repeated offenders). So either they know someone really important or Japanese legal system is not as harsh as people seem to believe