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Previous: >>11519163

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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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Has there ever been a vtuber who seems more intent on blunting their own momentum than Kronii?

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>>11560531
Sana has explicitly said she's intentionally filtering her audience.

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>>11560693
The difference being that Sana never had any momentum.

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>Requirements for channel registration
>Only channels with a minimum of 1,000 subscribers and 1,000,000 cumulative views are registered and ranked.
>Video information are aggregated for channels with a minimum of 23,000 subscribers OR 10,000,000 cumulative views.

>this indie that Kuzuha boosted still isn't listed on Playboard
>91k subs, 2.3 million cumulative views.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCebCRguPlkvWemz2dKxWIA
WHY! The only thing he doesn't qualify in is 10 million cumulative views, but that isn't a hard requirement. Somehow, a clip channel instead shows up when you search his name.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC2RyUFNAszv0mdYiltvmCuA
Which interestingly enough, deleted 1.4 MILLION views worth of videos before turning into a clip channel for him.

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Yesterday's superchats

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Weekly Hololive covers ranking in a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YDz2x1CxhU

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Cruel numbers cockblocking them from the daily top

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How is pekora's debuff kusoge reaching 30k. Is the game ending or something?

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>>11561279
So close

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>>11560447
this isn't the right hread.

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>>11561315
-Last Chapter
-Time of day is a thing anon, early watchers, even on a weekend, are less numerous than later in the day.

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>>11561279
Damn this is so sad to see

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>>11561355
FUCK!
I swapped the last two digits by mistake. How did I manage to do that?!
>>11560447

THE CORRECT PREVIOUS THREAD: >>11519136

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>>11561315
>Is the game ending or something?
Yep.
最=the most
終=end
回=turn

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>>11561362
>early watchers, even on a weekend, are less numerous than later in the day.
He’s (correctly) implying 30k is a positive surprise

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On the other end of “cutting too close”, VSPO returns to the daily top

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>>11561494
Oh man I'm out of it, yes, that's clearly what he meant. I was thinking about the numbers it was getting EARLIER, where it was under 22k. The CCV has been ramping up as she gets closer to the end + it gets later.

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>>11561494
Its funny if she'll take top1 today. The Tournament have Hal and there is also Botan (she'll get buff since she doesn't always so tourneys) so they also have a shot.

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Whoa ah ah ah ah ah ah! Oh my God, it's Kroni's live show! After all, it's Kronie's live broadcast while I'm at work! It's the first time I've been on a live show, but I'm sure you're working! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

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>>11561581
I mean she will she have stream later on JP prime time right?

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>>11561705
Yea, that stream is the result of this
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1417819901280997381?s=19
[ Planning announcement ]

This summer, Peko is looking for "free work" from everyone! !!

The theme is of course "Pekora Usada"
The recruited works will be judged by Pekora and listeners by distribution.

See the image for details

Explode everyone's ideas! !! !!

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>>11561581
>so they also have a shot.
I’m not seeing either beating 30k and the current Pekora stream is the weekend throwaway one.
Her regular stream is likely to beat it, being a special stream for nousagis and all.

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>>11561315
>kusoge
people just use that word for anything these days don't they?

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As for me, I know where I’ll be in four hours…

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>>11561811
Kusoge is game I don't like, oshi is waifu, fujo is all females, because [insert excuse here]

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>>11560995
10. Suisei - Saga Jihen
9. Suisei - Cry Baby
8. Suisei - KING
7. Polka - phony
6. Pekora - Cinderella
5. Hololive - Ochame Kinou
4. Aqua and friends - Umapyoi
3. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen
2. Calli and Suisei - Getcha
1. Calli and Gura - KING

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>>11560995
A lot of new covers.

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>>11561925
>3. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen
Hard work and effort made it possible for this song to be this successful

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>>11561925
>King back on #1

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>>11561925
>2. Calli and Suisei - Getcha
>1. Calli and Gura - KING
Myth OP, please nerf, game unbalanced

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>>11561925
I'm always surprised by Getcha's longevity, then I go and listen to it again and I get it. One of the most easily replayable covers in Hololive, it also helps that no one else has covered it so it has a unique element to it.

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>>11560693
Sana has basically the same audience as the day she started, she hasn't filtered anyone that her design, voice, and streaming times haven't already, although you can say she's sure tried with some of her content especially the astrology stuff.

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>>11562090
Yea, Suisei x Mori is by far the most viewed version of Getcha! for good reason.
>>11561925
Nerf Suisei, too OP on covers.

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>>11562090
It already got more than double the original's views.

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>>11562309
Man, Leona's cover did really well. Good for her.

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Haachama did some numberfagging and readjusted her membership levels
>MenGen talking streams which were basic level move up to VIP level
>Member archive only ASMR which was VIP only move down to basic level
And now she created VIP backstage rooms to give more perks to Haatons on that level.

She must have realized that she was leaving money at the table because Haaton that are enough of a fan for VIP won’t miss her ASMR live, and that making MenGen talking streams VIP she filters out the casuals and lookyloos.

Haachama must be making mad bank on membership (specially given her low intense scheduling these days) and is clearly aiming for more

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>>11562510
Interesting. Do any other holomem use tiers to any significant degree? Mori stopped when she switched everything to a single tier, and most of the other memberships I've looked at just have the extra tiers as "you can if you want, but you aren't getting anything extra out of this".

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>>11562732
I wouldn’t know. Haachama is the one I know put ASMR on higher tier.
For the longest time I figured out she values membership more than SC. She even went to the lengths of disabling SC in streams she knew it would blow up because she reads all names on stream and didn’t want to get swamped.

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>>11562732
>>11562855
Mel is doing the same thing Haachama used to and has her ASMR archive behind a higher tier
think Matsuri also had tiers but dunno if they were anything but "if you want to support me" things

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>>11562090
Same anon. I keep thinking it doesn't sound good up until the moment I relisten to it.
Might just be my Kpop bias, which I attribute to this song despite it not being Kpop at all.

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>11561604
What?

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>>11560882
That's certainly fucking weird

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Interesting result.

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>>11563566
Shill your bait elsewhere. This kind of poll means nothing since it's only 2.1k votes and it's on a fucking clipping channel

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>>11563606
For a post without comments that surely got you riled up.
There is no judgement of merit in there, the interesting part is that this seems to corroborate two theories thrown around in this thread for long
1) That Ina has a huge devoted audience
2) That Gura has a big segment of her audueyas “Gura only”, with little ties to the community as a whole and that wouldn’t find themselves at clip channels.

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>>11563710
Too small of a group to determine anything useful from it.
Also
>4 hour old bait from the catalog

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>>11560882
https://web.archive.org/web/20210323112518/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2RyUFNAszv0mdYiltvmCuA
Here's a wayback machine snapshot for you back in March 23. It seems to be a clipper channel for a different vtuber back then.
Channel name was 輝海まりな切り抜き

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>>11563322
I can't imagine what he repurposed his channel for if it had that many views as a clip channel, that is pretty good. 1 million views, assuming each clip is at least 10k views, is 100 videos. Or it could have been 1000 1k view videos. Either way it's confusing. The indie did not exist on anyone's radar till he got picked up by Kuzuha so it certainly was repurposed to follow him.

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>>11563806
It's not small at all. 2k is more than sufficient as a sample size for the holo fanbase. It's still probably riddled with biases that render the numbers pretty much useless.

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>>11563813
Homepage screenshot of the old channel.
It seems to be a clipper for Kagami Marina: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmaDYcJHNFrZ5Owuz-KM-Jw/videos
No idea who she is, but she is still around so I guess he might have just lost interest and switched vtubers.
Got some 40k view clips there, not bad.
That clip there with the 40k views is titled "加藤純一を純ちゃん呼びするマリーナ" which references Jun lol.

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>>11563930
>>11563813
Thanks for the snooping, I forgot channel IDs stay the same.

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>>11563905
Yea. Normally a sufficiently randomized sampling of 2k gives some useful data, bit it being on a clip channel and YouTube being the way it is with recommendations on community posts, the only thing we can say is that those willing to answer that poll like Ina more. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Pekora actually reached 30k with this shill stream lol

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>>11564160
Speaking of which is it okay that Gura didn't properly indicate that the cookie shill stream was a paid promotion on YouTube system-wise?

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>>11564160
Holy shit, square enix better be paying a bonus

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>>11564218
System-wise doesn't matter at all, legally speaking. As long as its properly disclosed.

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>>11564270
This is sega though.

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>>11560973
>Rushia
Welcome back queen

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>>11564160
unsurprising the bar fight and discussion before are pretty big highlights of the story
also KoroWamy ended

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>>11564324
The numbers are so good Sega can’t afford the bonus and Square Enix has to pitch in

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>>11561581
Wait? Botan in a tourney? What tourney? When?

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>>11564384

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>>11562324
The best cover of the song

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>>11564384
BF6 Tournament with MEN

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>>11564297
Do you think it's beneficial numbers and algorithm wise to not indicate it on the system level?

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>>11562855
She made fucking Bank yesterday, I kneel chammers.
But you will always have the poorfags who will complain, I'm glad she did this so that she filters out the shitty niggas even more

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>>11564468
>I'm glad she did this so that she filters out the shitty niggas even more
kek, this! If you can’t afford 5 bucks a month for quality entertainment you are most certainly not worthy of chammers and should get yourself a high paying job so you can stop being poor.

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>>11564441
Will it feature all their POV??

And will Hal be able to beat Pekora's 33k?

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>>11564535
This is not even pekora's main event for this day though

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>>11561925
King is back at number one

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>>11564441
When will this be?

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>>11564297
>>11564450
I think tagging it explicitly is to avoid showing to audiences to which it shouldn’t be (like Youtube Kids).
But considering pajeets in charge of the kid detection stuff made
>Bitch Made Pasta
from Haachama a “Youtube Kids approved” vídeo you can take anything about that with a grain of salt

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>>11564593
>>11564535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcoX9gjdoNo

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>>11564450
I have no idea. I doubt most viewers even notice most of the time and I don't think youtube does any algo bullshit with sponsored videos or they'd get heat from companies for nerfing them.

>>11564448
BF5 anon.

>>11564535
Everyone has their own POV.

>>11564593
8pm JST

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>>11564673
>>11564678
Thanks anon

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>>11564602
Tagging it as Paid Promotion is also in-line with the FTC rules, as well as announcing it's a paid sponsorship.
Not doing so potentially risks FTC action, but like.....unless you're constantly doing it and specifically trying to pass paid promotions as 'unpaid', missing the tag once or twice likely won't matter. It'd have to be reported AND found to be "Reason for action" to even have someone consider moving on it.

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>>11564678
So Any number predictions?
Botan: 18k
Towa: 6k
Hal: 30k
Only know these, so can they reach these?

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>>11562309
It goes to show that being the first result of a song search will give a greater boost that lasts longer.

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>>11564778
Why would hal get 30k on a nonapex tourney?

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WHO WOULD WIN THIS TIME SHIFTED BATTLE ROYALE TO THE DEATH?

>The King of Male Vtubers, the face of the largest vtuber company in Japan, playing in a worldwide championship of the newest hotness of a game, with his whole company funneling views into his championship winning squad composed by the Sultan, the mighty he-Ayame (and some other literally who which I forgot)?
>one humble rabbit trying to make ends meet by playing an unknown game for money?

THE ANSWER WILL ANGER, CONFUSE, SURPRISE YOU AND UNBRAID PEKORA’S HAIR!

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>34k for shill stream

I KNEEL PEKKERS

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>>11564778
>Hal: 30k
He’s not the host, you know? His big numbers come from hosting and having the teams announced in his channel

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>>11564554
She's gonna win with this game

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Can the rabbit break 35k i wonder? I'm legit impressed she reached this high. Her stream yesterday only got 24k

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>>11564896
She have pekocraft later.

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>>11564902
KNEEL TO THE QUEEEEEEEEEN (35k get)
Getting paid to play an old game in front of 35k people, sheeesh making bank while making bank.

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>>11564902
She just did

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Just wanna know, is the merging of EN and JP server for minecraft permanent? Seems like mc can be a permanent buff game for EN now too.

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>>11564965
It is permanent.

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>>11564778
Nobody has any idea how many will turn up to see Botan in a tournament. Towa will probably only get her base, bf viewers who want to see their team know to watch either cpt or botan, Towa is new at the game. Hal will get nowhere near 30k, I predict max of 15k and wouldn't be surprised if he struggled to get much above 10.

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>>11564965
It's permanent

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>>11564965
yes it is, fyi the new ID server will eventually also be merged, likely some time after ID3's debut and collab ban expiring.

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Predictions on pekora's second stream tonight?

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>>11564902
Is this game super anticipated in Jp or a meme or something? Her viewership x this many streams must’ve cost them a fortune. It also makes me think we focus too much on the easy to measure numbers when it’s clear the talents are happy to ignore them for various reasons: Watame releases a lot of originals which get pretty poor numbers, but leads to a sololive that rakes in cash. Suisei skimps on streams to work on her album/sololive. Sponsor streams like Cookie run that get relatively shit numbers but pay big bucks. Kiara playing Tales of Arise for 8 streams which netted her another sponsorship and what appears like a very friendly relationship with Bandai. We need more financial reports to come out.

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>IT’S NOT SLOWING DOWN!

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>>11564717
Knowing these girls it’s most likely they forgor (Pekora) or YouTube fucked up the setting.

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>>11565023
>fyi the new ID server will eventually also be merged
Dayum. I have mixed feeling about all these arrangement. At one hand I want to see different branches interacting more with each other but at the same time I want to see the EN/ID building their own stuff instead of riding on the success of JP. Both branches never tried to overcome the scarcity problem as JP already solved it. Same with elytra and all other limited stuff.

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>>11565046
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_(video_game)
She's probably playing the remastered version that was released this year now that I look at the wikipage for this game. A sequel was released last month, which would explain why she's getting a sponsorship for THIS game NOW.
Suddenly everything makes much more sense.

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>>11565040
Above 40k

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I have some questions about Youtube's way of calculating views. Pekora had endurance Jump King streams which in total is > 24 hours long and each of them had 1M view. Does it mean that there are 1M people that watched the entire 24 hours of that shit or is the view recorded just by watch 30 minutes or so of the stream.

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>>11565190
Iirc you only need to watch for 30 seconds to count as 1 view.

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>>11565046
its a detective game and from the same developers as the "like a dragon/yakuza" games so they have quite a bit of anticipation + murder mystery being solved

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>>11565190
As long as your 'view session' is at least 30 seconds for the stream/vod(could be 3x 10s segments or just a 30second block), it counts as a view in YT's eyes(This of course only for videos longer than 30s). If you then navigate away from the stream then come back, you count as a 'new view' so long as you watch the requisite 30 seconds you count again. You can count for only 5-20? times per a day per video/stream to prevent people from running up the count too much with a single account.

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People underestimate the ability Minecraft has to generate impromptu narratives, collabs and numbers.
Take the latest Nene-RatGirl collab.
>girls meet
>go on an adventure together
>find parrots
>struggle to move parrots from JP to EN server
>finally succeed and celebrate their success
>in the epilogue, a creeper shows up and BTFO both parrots

Minecraft is even better than Garry’s Mod TF2 to produce this type of “Machinima” as it doesn’t take any technical skill to pull it off, only improvisational ability and luck of the draw on the RNG side.

It is not an one off event too. Moona death on the Wither fight was another similar event. Pekora and Moona fight against mobs with her enchanted trident (which killed her parrot) was another.

Even one of the early events, Miko torching her house, that’s all “Machinima” and guaranteed numbers both live and in the aftermath

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>>11565249
4 or 5 times a day. I don't know if that's different for shorts.

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>>11564825
Numbers beget more numbers, it's a tried and true statement.

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Oh hey Fauna's back to 6k gap to Baelz, wonder if its due to her back to streaming regularly after having last week off due to dental surgery or because Baelz streams have been off due to her internet being shit.

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>>11565323
The sheer number of hours played and interactions that can occur make it a rich source of narratives and clips. There’s nothing else that is quite like it really.

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>>11565233
>>11565249
So Pekora's Jump King's view is essentially bloated? I would imagine most people not even sticking around for that long, even as a background noise.

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>>11565431
>So Pekora's Jump King's view is essentially bloated?
You can make that argument for any stream vod.

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>>11565431
she kept above 20k for 99% of the streams.

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>I must kneel but I have no knees

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>>11565249
That makes me wonder. Assuming tabbing out makes you stop counting as a live viewer, if you then tab back into the stream and stay for 30s would that make the total view count increase by 1 again? The same question could apply for any criteria youtube uses to stop considering you in the CCV count.

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>>11565538
It probably doesn't count as a 'new view', it likely treats you the same as someone who's paused the stream since you're 'inactive' as far as counts go.

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>>11565431
There is no way 1M unique viewers from every vod. But Pekora probably has the highest retention rate in hololive.

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>>11565249
>you count as a 'new view' so long as you watch the requisite 30 seconds you count again. You can count for only 5-20?
>>11565346
>4 or 5 times a day
There is one explanation for why a long stream with a high CCV gets to 1M with such “ease” while even a higher CCV in a shorter stream doesn’t
>people tabbing out and in again counts as a new view
>the longer the stream the largest the number of tab ins and outs
APEX, in particular, has enough “churn” from people having the stream on background until firefight erupts that even a low CCV stream (like Choco’s) will get a high view count

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>>11565580
>Pekora probably has the highest retention rate
She has a good retention rate, but it's only impressive because her CCV so high. A lot of numerically inferior holos have very high retention rates too.

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There are 2.2k on Botan's waiting room while Pekora is holding 36k.
I think Botan may actually get 20k+ today

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RIP is gonna reach 10M on Spotify after the next stream count update.

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>>11565626
Did you see the CCV choco got on those endurance APEX streams? Here's two of those in that picture.

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>>11565742
Around $30-40k just from Spotify plays alone. Mori has around 50M plays total so gross around $150-200k. She no doubt gets much better cuts on her music than her streams. Even a million in SC is “only” around $350,000 to her (though I’ll eat my hat if Myth didn’t get renegotiate much better cuts, they have all the leverage in the world). If you add YouTube revenue from her songs it’s entirely possible she makes almost as much from her music as her Superchats.

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jesas

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>>11565948
Pekora won the day!

She should move her upcoming stream for tomorrow for a double win

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>>11565948
reminds me of when she played ffx suddenly a huge spike at the end

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>>11565948
She beat Kuzuha's tourney yesterday with a kusoge... And it's sponsored too. My knees.

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>>11566045
What was the last sponsored stream to win the day? I’m sure it’s happened but I can’t remember

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She might hit 40K.

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>>11566081
Nah, the final fight was over and the tourney is about to begin

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>>11566045
It's not a kusoge ffs, unless you consider the Yazkua/Like a Dragon series to be Kusoge.

39k Though, for playing while being paid, das pretty good. Acting as advertising for the sequel that came out last month.

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>>11566045
Judge Eyes isn't a fucking kusoge no matter how many time you spam it here retard

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Botan's number should be interesting. Is this her first fps tournament as a holomem? Might get a buff from hololive tourist on the novelty.

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>>11566045
>kusoge
Look up the definition of kusoge, you EOP faggot

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>>11566104
>>11566107
>>11566157
They've been calling it kusoge these past weeks. Why are you just starting to call them out today.
Maybe because it manage to get to 39.5k today and whooped Kuzuha's shill stream yesterday?

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>that title change
She knows exactly what she's doing.

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im surprised at Friend's numbers with Ouga.

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>>11566227
>16k peak.
>400K vod views.
this is why people shouldn't mention Gura and CCV in the same sentence.

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>>11566217
Judgement is a good game and I like both Kuzuha and Pekora, die.

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>>11566217
>Why are you just starting to call them out today.
You're fucking blind then because there's always at least one anon every thread who shits on the same retard calling it a kusoge.

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>>11566255
Why? Her CCV is still very high whether it's in EN or the whole Hololive

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I'm curious, how the fuck is Slither a buff game? It always gets holos more than 10k on it.

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I think Youtube will recommend you the same video/vods if you change the thumbnail and the title. It can make people rewatch something they've already watched. Did any of the vtubers did such scummy thing? I've seen a prominent Science youtuber with a blue logo resembling something from periodic table did this trick.

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>>11566104
>>11566107
>>11566157
If it wasnt a kusoge, then Furen could've gotten 8-10k. No?

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>>11566217
This isn't /v/ so I try not to make posts that will steer discussion towards the thread becoming /v/ but at this point correcting misleading claims is on-topic

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>>11566340
Not just Holos, I've seen a Niji or two get good numbers. It's just a good chill game for the streamer to chat/rage/react, especially when they've set a goal like Mio has. Plus its hilarious when one of the Audience traps/protects the streamers and either fucks up and dies, or ends up killing the chubba by mistake/on purpose.

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>>11566340
It is easy to understand, you have the chance to interact with the vtuber, and a lot of the people like to see vtubers suffering.

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>>11566340
>simple game to drop into, like tetris
>no plot so don't need to know what happened last stream
>salt game when chuuba dies
>chill game so it's a pseudo-zatsudan stream
>viewer engagement since people snipe streams

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>>11566362
Don't use my Niji oshi to shitpost you giant fucking faggot

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>>11566362
>Dumbfuck doesn't know JPs love kusoges and actual kusoges usually get better numbers than plot-heavy RPG games like Judgement
You're so fucking retarded

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>>11566362
JRPG debuff game does not mean kusoge.
If this game is not debuff, Pekora can reach 30k every episode.

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>>11560447
I come back to the Numbers Thread only to find anons rubbing each other dick, jerking off to numbers, and shitflinging. Uhm, what the fuck happened here? Where are the graphs a d analysis? Why must you ruin the one place where a numbers enjoyer like me feels at peace. Why?

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>>11564332
>Rushia
>Welcome back queen
did you mistyped Pikamee?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566467
That's a strange way of spelling Ayamy

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566449
Go back to curry posting you faggot

[Anonymous No.]

40k yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566507
Pekora? Game's over.

[Anonymous No.]

6k+ waiting on Botan. This looks promising.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people keep donating on this peko stream? Its a shill stream and there's still the next stream in an hour.
Pekora is literally swimming in cash

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566581
Why is Botan having the highest numbers compare to others in her gen? (RIP pink devil) Is it really due to the Russian buff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566593
It's tradition to SC when the chuuba finishes a long game. You tip because you enjoy the streams, like you would when you enjoy a street performance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566593
Next stream is being postponed until later date

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566593
>Pekora is literally swimming in cash
Water is wet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566620
Among Holos, Botan tries different games and is actually good at fps (possibly comparable to Aqua).
She's also the most matured one

[Anonymous No.]

>>11565968
>>11566649
Did she just say it? Well, wish granted anon, the stream's been moved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566593
>why are people superchatting the second most superchatted active vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566649
Really? If so then it's a smart move (atleast on a numberfag's perspective)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566620
Good at talking, good at collabs, collabs with a wide range of holos, good at games, has a clear specialization on those too, but also plays a wide variety of different games, streams fairly regularly. She's just a powerhouse, there's not much more to it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyBlqSH7vw
i like Ramy now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566674
>She's also the most matured one
Is that really what people are after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566773
Hololive is full of menheras, teens and loli keyfabe. Having a matured/older member is a breath of fresh air

[Anonymous No.]

Vod view and sub count are such useless metrics for vtuber. Most subs are dead subs, and vod view almost certainly not important if you're a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, people must be really eager to see Botan in a serious tournament environment, these numbers are good.

Those dislikes though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566840
VOD views make the channel more money than live views in the long run, CCV is what's worthless because Youtube doesn't count most viewers if they're not from Asia.

[Anonymous No.]

How different would Hololive be if they got Bora for JP 6. Not only can she speak JP, she could also speak KR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566840
>vod view almost certainly not important if you're a streamer.
The spiffing brits proved that vod is the most profitable thing for a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566903
She speaks English as well, right? Or am I just thinking of Qu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566869
can you throw link to tournament pls, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566903
They already have Towa though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566903
apexfags dont do well in hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566840
You're fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566940
https://youtu.be/VgC_6YwrU9o

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566884
But can you get money from viewers that uses adblock?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566940
Botan POV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgC_6YwrU9o
Main POV (They're just dicking around in lobby right now, it hasn't started yet): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZyhSX5BvQA

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566934
Counter-point (though this is really only for Hololive and streamers who consistently get high SCs during their streams) - If they're not watching you Live, they're not superchatting.
>>11566903
That would require Bora to abandon the Kr branch, and that's not happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566999
>>11566993
ty

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566940
Towa: https://youtu.be/1lJFnEoiU1s
Botan: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VgC_6YwrU9o

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567004
>If they're not watching you Live, they're not superchatting.
Here is a counterpoint to that
>if nobody over the 5k people that caught you live is getting exposed to your streams you are dead and don’t even know

[Anonymous No.]

So far Botan have the highest audience (19k) and they're still at the lobby lol
Poor Hal only got around 7k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567051
>Poor Hal only got around 7k
He’ll likely incline himself into “daily ranking” range but why the fuck people think he has an audience larger than 12k.

His daily results are for everybody to see, where did people get the wrong idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567045
Yes, absolutely valid, which is why you want both VOD views and live viewers. Trying to take it in isolation on a platform like YT is stupid anyways.
>>11566997
If they have YT premium, quite a bit actually. According to what the spiffingbrit revealed, VOD/stream views give YT premium payouts based off of length of time watched, so if you've got adblock, don't really feel like constantly superchatting but also want to support the chubbas you actually watch, YT premium is a viable option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567045
>having consistent 5k people catching you live means you're a dead channel
Yeah, tell Twitch streamers who don't actually have any good means of keeping VOD that a consistent 5k audience means their channel is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567004
>That would require Bora to abandon the Kr branch, and that's not happening.
>I give you secret salary and you save the branch for us. Don't leave.

>>11567051
>Poor Hal only got around 7k
Love to grudgepost the guy who says Hal could get 20k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567075
People look at cup streams for drawing teams getting 50k and think that's the standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567051
she has alot of dislikes than normal. 250 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567077
You don't need adblock when you have YT premium since you dont get ad no?

[Anonymous No.]

Where is the CRfag in the previous thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567144
Virgins might be angry because they are teamed up with a male lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567144
Delusional idolfags probably, and the rest are just bored dramafags who dropped a dislike just because.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567075
He probably doesn't know that people who primarily watch apex streams rarely tune in to anything else

[Anonymous No.]

Botan 20k in a couple of minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567077
I suspect people who watch vtubers regularly have their watch time almost completely dominated by their streams. It’s basically an extra membership divided by watchtime. Apparently for long streams premium can be multiple times the ad revenue, so Watame, Kiara, Pekora get extra revenue their pure views may not encapsulate

[Anonymous No.]

If Botan's team performs well then she might actually get 30k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567161
>>11567163
higher chance its the same kind of fps autist who see anime/girls and instanly go into a seething rage

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567085
If the conversation is about VOD, which is something exclusive to YouTube, how the fuck Twitch got dragged into this conversation?
You are of course correct but in the most retarded way. Reminds me of people that just got 6 grade science class

>his mass must be around 60Kg, it says so here on the scale
>NO! Scales measure weights, not mass! The scale would only show (let’s say) 12Kg if you had measured him in the moon!

Any YouTuber that only did unarchived streams wouldn’t survive long even if they got 5k CCV for some time. As soon as the lives stopped happening (for any reason, be it health, vacations and whatnot) he would pretty much have to start from square one

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzuha & Kanae seemingly didn't get invited to this event. No practice, just fun BFV game between FPS streamers. Was he afraid seeing Botan in the list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567194
Cpt is fucking monster in the game so probably they will do well

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567200
Not as bad as apex shitter but still pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567200
In a tournament where the majority are vtubers? kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567209
People get invited to things based on social connections. Not everybody belongs to the same social circles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567161
>>11567163
There are less than 40 actual idolfags at best, the rest are all hate tourists and regular dramafags, you can tell by looking at botan's previous videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567204
>makes an extremely stupid and unrealistic counterpoint of a consistent 5k CCV channel never getting discovered by anyone
>gets mad when its pointed out to be a retarded example

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567230
You say that but his boyfriends all got invited aside from Kanae

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567209
>Was he afraid seeing Botan in the list?
kek, Kuzuha and Kanae play regularly against tournament participants who are way better than Botan ever was so this is extra retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567145
There exists the rest of the fucking internet that's filled to the brim with shitty ads too y'know.
>>11567163
Yep, part of the reason why Aqua still has so many dislikes is because dramafags watchers just drop the dislike just for the sake of habit even though they may really enjoy watching her. Such is the way of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567274
Pretty sure that anon is talking about numbers not skill

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567245
This anon here >>11567077 has the correct take, that CCV and VOD are complementary, as opposed to >>11566840, that says VOD is an useless metric (implying CCV should be the only consideration).

The supposed counterpoint to that, this post here >>11567004, makes it look like the live component is the most important and the exaggerated example is to highlight that it’s not a counterpoint at all: the streamer still depends on the VOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567274
It was sarcasm. Learn to read it. Anyway, He was invited to 3 big name FPS tourneys in the past 2 months namely R6S, Valorant, Apex. Him not getting invited to this one especially when his friends are in is kinda weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567209
They are in the middle of Pubg mobile tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567365
Alright that explains it

[Anonymous No.]

It’s still inching up

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567342
Except that this post >>11567004 is clearly responsing to a post about profit >>11566934. It's perfectly possible for SC profit to outweigh VOD profit for channels with an extremely strong SC culture like hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Kson zatsu
>30 min in
>8,471 watching now

[Anonymous No.]

VOD payout??? Superchat???

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567395
this is only 30 min, anon.
40 min rule

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567407
Patra, I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567407
Patra is not just an exception, she’s the Cristiano Ronaldo of ASMR.

>>11567400
>It's perfectly possible for SC profit to outweigh VOD profit for channels with an extremely strong SC culture like hololive.
I agree it could be possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567407
Holy, I always know Patra is popular as fuck for her ASMR since most of those streams are in the 500-600k range casually with 1m or more over time but this is insane lol. No wonder Twitch camgirls can get fat cash with an audience of just 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

>replying to "VOD views and subs don't matter" guy
Why is it always the SEAniggers that are complete retards in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567457
Hololive gets most of their profit from ticket sales, sponsors and merch. SCs is the last one. It's only true for the top 80% of their earners which is still a lot mind you but it ain't true for everyone. It's not true for 99% outside of Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567474
Yep. Twitch is just the PG-13 for their real trade on other platforms.

Most thots don’t make enough money tho, the 90-9-1 rule applies to the distribution of revenue for them too.
For each Amouranth there are some 9 (let’s say) Pokimanes and then 90 literally who 2 views that aren’t making any money good enough to compensate for the future they’re throwing in the trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567506
I mean, on the hololive subreddit, the kinds of answer that back VODs and subs are usually met with general disagreement and answer with CCV are met with high agreement, so may be they have a point or reason?
And yeah, I know that place can be as an echo chamber as with any place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567555
>so may be they have a point or reason
>reddit
Imagine believing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567342
t. Chumpedo trying to reason that Gura isn't actually irrelevant

Any retard that tries to claim that VOD and subs matter easily out themselves as Chumfaggots and should be banned

[Anonymous No.]

Nice that botan is getting good numbers with a risky move like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567555
>the kinds of answer that back VODs and subs are usually met with general disagreement and answer with CCV are met with high agreement, so may be they have a point or reason?
Didn't anons comb through the reddit thread you said this happened in last time you brought it up and found no such comments?
Can you link an example of high agreement and general disagreement so you don't look like you're full of shit?

[Anonymous No.]

Big numbers for Botan. Everyone wants to see what the gaming lion is capable in a semi competitive environment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567402
I don't have anything against kson, so don't take it the wrong way, but her numbers are soon going to go back to the same place they were before her "debut."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567597
>>11567610
Can she make it into 30k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567580
Neck yourself, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567580
We are talking about Youtube right? If this was only Twitch sure but YT pretty much is built upon adsense. The longer the vid the better adsense you can slap

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567580
>should be banned
go back to r/hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567615
Easily. Look at that slope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567614
>I don't have anything against kson
to be honest i don't care (not her fan), but im pretty surprised there is no discussion about those numbers. even shitposters doesnt use her to bait holofags

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567580
God I fucking wish anyone who uses namecalling in place of an actual argument in this thread gets instabanned, especially retards like this who only care about numbers when they allow him to beat the other tribe

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567615
Not impossible, these matches take a bit of time with 500 kills a side.
Also you fuckers really need to stop giving the obvious shitposter (you)s , especially when he uses fucking chumpedo. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567680
The entire fucking board got filled with low quality kson baits and then everyone got burned out because nobody bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567683
>beat the other tribe
are You retarded? he is just shitposter. those has no tribe

[Anonymous No.]

* Current Top 10, unfiltered *
Is there any POV not being tracked by live-ranking or Botan has the most watched one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567615
lowkey Kuzuha of hololive arise

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567724
Here are the ones being tracked.
>S-Sultan…
>E-Emperor…

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567724
>TFW A lion hag is beating Valo - JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567709
How do you recognize a shit poster, just those that throw insults and provide no argument to a discussion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567763
The one trick sultan and the one trick emperor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567781
Lurk more and it becomes obvious.
There's a lot of posts that are too retarded to respond to.

[Anonymous No.]

So we are in agreement that VOD view doesn't matter right? I swear, there's no need to go on such a long arguement to reach this conclusive outcome. Also, r/hololive is such a shitty place now. No discussion whatsoever, just a hugbox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567839

[Anonymous No.]

I see a lot of people claiming VOD views and CCV doesn't matter. Bunch of Idiots.
Why? Because you're oshis are failing on those?

[Anonymous No.]

I say bring back the kneelposters and the “ethnic variations of eating curry mesh from the floor” posters.
At least they were amusing

[Anonymous No.]

unicorns are shaking in their boots at these botan numbers

[Anonymous No.]

Music VOD views don't matter, the only thing that matters is the amount of people who show up to the premiere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567880
>So many people
>One shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567839
>VOD view doesn't matter
Matters for revenue

>No discussion whatsoever, just a hugbox
You're not supposed to discuss numbers there

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567781
how new, anon?
you just look into "point" of those posts. (reason why anon bothered to even write something)
after some engagements you will learn to don't react and especially don't try to reason with blunt baiters.

[Anonymous No.]

towa...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567946
Anon, botan is about to break 30k

[Anonymous No.]

Botan short of 150 views to reach 30k... but game is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567946
ppls always prefer the best player + 1 mil buff
btw isnt it a good number for her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567926
>matters for revenue
Only matters for Chumfaggots seething and coping that they 3.5 mil sub most popular Vtuber is irrelevant in 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567946
>screenshot from one hour ago or so
At least post the most recent on-
>oh…

[Anonymous No.]

Botan just got Susan'd

Dropped 3k viewers lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567906
Exactly. Even majority music ranking systems prefer the premiere day release instead of the whole run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567972

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567906
I can only hope Battlefield becomes the meta for HoloFPS. At least it's something other than Apex...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567880
Because VoD ranking is very different kek
>>11567975
So much for the """drama"""

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567905
more like nijis are shaking cause a single lion is taking their last bastion of views

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567978
Not susan'd, round was over. Their team won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567905
Hardly. Botan doesn't get tourney numbers every stream. She can't sustain high viewership if she pisses off her gachis too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567995
meant for >>11567905

[Anonymous No.]

Come on LaLion, 30k GO GO GO!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567978
No, the round just ended

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567997
>polka
When did she get so high?

[Anonymous No.]

WTF Susan?! YT glitched then Botan suddenly dropped from 29k to 26k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567995
>I can only hope Battlefield becomes the meta for HoloFPS
Botan lately only plays FPS for fun and mostly on collabs with Choco-Suba-Luna or Pekora-Towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568036
The menhera clown was spamming cover songs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568069
After seeing these numbers she'll probably pick up APEX again

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567997
Miko views are kinda low, she stream so I think they should still add up to a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568092
GOD NO PLEASE NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568069
>Battlefield becomes the meta for HoloFPS
w8 for battleroyal

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568020
>pisses off gachis
It's only true if she plays Apex all the time. In this case, she doesn't. She already cultivated a fanbase that would watch any FPS games she plays and if she does play Apex, her fans wouldn't mind. She switch games a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568020
>Botan
>gachis
Jokes on you, Botan has pretty awful SC numbers for Holo standards so she doesn't rely on unicorns for viewership or money.
Red bull and FamilyMart sponsorships pay more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11565914
Dont forget that since it's her own fund, most of the money made is hers to take

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568092
GOD FORBID!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568092
Apex is cancer (not the game but the fanbase and the addiction it does to streamers)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568092
haha no she fucking won't

[Anonymous No.]

Some anon actually predicted 30k for hal..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567997
>Marine
>Hasn't streamed for a month
>Still 6th
Gee I wonder why VOD views is a poor metric

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568020
Look >>11560973 and stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567975
Given a choice ,people will watch the person with more than a few days of experience with a fps game. Still , side by side its a little sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568164
She still uploading clips, but yes, she's a vod views monster.

[Anonymous No.]

bffags, is botan really good or are her opponents really bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566674
>possibly comparable to Aqua
Anon.. she was a literal pro

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568164
>"because they doesn't suits my narrative"
BUT really, a lot of #shorts and songs(og/covers)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568189
hmm i wonder if there was a special event that lead to that?
seriously tho her total is barely above Ange and bellow Sora

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568228
>>11564441
blue star good
red star monster
I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568236
Do shorts and song/covers earn superchats? No? Hence why they and VOD are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566903
If just a single Korean-nationality chuuba enter holo than you can say good bye to NijiKR

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568256
By this logic, we should only count the amount of individual superchatters in each stream as actual viewers. The rest are just freeloading irrelevant leeches like VOD viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568256
Imagine thinking that superchats make up a significant portion of a chuuba's income in 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568256
>VOD are irrelevant
>Youtube
Sure thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568252
Beating kson on her new avatar debut is good , regardless of the circumstances

[Anonymous No.]

If we're comparing VOD views, then we really should be comparing median VOD views instead of total.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568236
And who cares about short and song views? They're STREAMERS. Twitch doesn't even keep a permanent archive so its a garbage metric just by the fact it's only relevant for streamers who use Youtube as a platform

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568310
imagine actually arguing with a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568228
Teams are unbalanced, looking at performance. Well, given the number of squads per side, ovearll Botan's side is stronger (and thus are able to stay ahead on kills vs the other side).
267-0 is pretty fucking facestomp in round 1, and they're stomping pretty hard in this round too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568256
LOOK AT THIS MAN
LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH

[Anonymous No.]

Botan is the only one who hasn't added her team members in her title. Isn't she familiar with this norm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568312
They wouldn't spend hours reading them if they didn't, of course they have other revenue streams that most likely make a majority of their income but you're delusional if you think superchats don't make up a large chunk of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568335
They're entertainers, streaming is simply the current meta for vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Botan the highest viewed participant in this BF5 event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568353
does the dude normally stream on that weird platform?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568382
except for those who don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568402
No idea, I've just used https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/?search_tag=バトルフィールド5(Battlefield+V) page to filter most of the related streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567839

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568402
MILF-dom, I think. Weren’t them exclusive to that until recently?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568396
yes, by a fair bit too

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567880
>>11567905
>>11567906
>>11567979

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568402
mildom pays him to stream on that platform, yeah. I think they paid kson to do the same at one point too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568402
A lot of the non-chuuba FPS streamers stream on Mildom

[Anonymous No.]

>Holofaggots proud of their botted "high" VOD views
>can't beat Nijis in metrics that actually counts
>suddenly defensive when called out that VOD views are an objectively irrelevant metric
This is why Holobronies are fucking faggots. They only care for metrics that make their whores seem good

[Anonymous No.]

so, is niji lucky that Botan rarely joins tourneys?

[Anonymous No.]

>11568515
>literally
>all
>wrong
I appreciate the attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568518
Views-wise? Yes. If she joined regularly she'd easily be Kuzuha-tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568515
Metrics that actually counts? Do tell faggot.
Just admit that nijiwhores are beaten on VOD views and CCV and that's why you consider them irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568518
they are lucky Cover is not realeasing a full fps gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568335
>Twitch doesn't even keep a permanent archive
That's why some Twitch streamers use Youtube for VOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568382
Supacha is a relevant source of income, specially for some of the top supacha earners, but it's not even close to their main concern. Doing superchat reading is more about cultivating your core fanbase, specially the ones with deep pockets who are more likely to spend on merch and other better sources of income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568515

[Anonymous No.]

So, ignoring the shitposter, what would be the best or most natural way to gain VOD that matters (the kind of VOD which the clicker actually can become a long term audience and not just leave after 1 click)? Short, skits, songs, stream, or any source of VOD is equally as good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568515
>This is why Holobronies are fucking faggots. They only care for metrics that make their whores seem good

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568535
I sort of understand some of her fans frustration watching her style on pubs would be pretty entertaining. But it’s not like she doesn’t know that life she just doesn’t want to be an FPS steamer primarily. This is basically her retirement and she seems to be enjoying herself immensely. She’s not hurting for money by any means

[Anonymous No.]

I swear Nijifags are getting too desperate these days. Can't even make a decent argument.
>11568515
>a prime example of such desperation

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568109
would be fun to see Botan & Towa vs rest of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568567
>Short, skits, songs
Probably those 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568567
There's no real answer apart from making good content.
That's like asking how to raise CCV.
If you want to rack up total VOD views, then shorts and songs are way better than streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568312
About 20%

[Anonymous No.]

Good numbers for Mito feat. Lain. Highest CCV for Nijis for the day so far
>”Manjisanji”, they said

[Anonymous No.]

Which makes more money on YT ?
Sponsorship,SC, CCV, or VOD ?

[Anonymous No.]

BF is definitely way more fun to watch than apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>Holobirds Collab, Aqua Singing, Flare Singing, Mori Unarchived Karaoke, Roboco Singing.
Hey Holos atleast have mercy on the poor nijis

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568687
Depends on the streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568679
The fact that this is so rare nowdays and requires a huge collab does prove that the name Manjisanji is well deserved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568567
The problem is... clips is what makes people get interested to begin with. From there, it's all about what they land themselves into when the chuuba provides content. So basically >>11568632

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568687
Sponsorship and SC. Everything else is pennies and therefore irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568679
You could probably substitute Lain with any other Niji and Mito would still get the same numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568687
Ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568701
Mori unarchived karaoke is a rebroadcast, though the last rebroadcast she got nearly had 10k so who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568679
anon please, this is the rest of her week

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568687
All of them, but ad revenue is the most consistent

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568540
Some do. Doesn't change the fact that if Hololive switched to Twitch tommorrow your chosen metric would suddenly be worthless overnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568721
Vod and premium are worth as much or more than SC for many Holos most likely. Where do people get the idea SC are a huge source of income for them? Many make it abundantly obvious they don’t really give a shit about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568761
>People
It's literally one guy trying to push that narrative because he thinks this place is /tribal/ and not numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568761
Numbers on how many people use Youtube Premium in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568631
>>11568632
>>11568716
I see, with the answers in mind. How to judge a music based holo Calli who normally has bad stream metrics but good song metric?
She has actual audience (based on song metric) or "dead sub" audience (based on stream metric)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568755
Let nijifags delude themselves.
Some of them are starting to get mad that they call CCV and VOD as irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

Botan is pretty good, makes you wonder what numbers she could pull in Apex if she didn't burn out on it before the debut. But then her fanbase would have a lot of apexniggers so maybe it was for the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568758
Yes and if we were all squid people living underwater the tree cutting industry wouldn't exist, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.]

jp prime time has been relatively empty recently, nene making good use of this to get a sweet 17k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568761
depends on where your viewers live. If your viewers are mostly third worlders, good luck making money with that CPM rate

[Anonymous No.]

>Selen mogging a couple of Niji blokes with a guerilla APEX stream on JP primetime
“Manjisanji”, they said

Is Selen the Kuzuha of NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568853
Leos what the fuck happened to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568712
>Collab with Lain
>Huge

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568817
That your metric is shit because it's platform specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568758
>Doesn't change the fact that if Hololive switched to Twitch tommorrow your chosen metric would suddenly be worthless overnight
Yeah yeah that probably never gonna happen unless Youtube die

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568853
I was expecting like 3k+ CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568853
blue kuzuha...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568873
>”red Kuzuha”, they said
>”he-Botan”, they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568853
Selen is an honorary dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568887
and your argument is shit because it relies on hypotheticals

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568853
>Manjisanji
>7 out of top 10 ARE males

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568873
Meme boost wore off. Getting 50k for Ghosts and Goblins was his peak and he hit it 1 day into his career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568679
>>11568712
Not a huge collab. She's playing a VN-style fan game centered around her and Nijisanji.
Kinda like when Holos play Smol Ame.
https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/26861

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568873
The latest Niji wave is already reclining lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566748
ok newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568909
Its not a hypothetical that some vtubers are on Twitch retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568900
>3k+ CCV.
>on guerilla Apex with no collab
delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>11566967
MInato Aqua does pretty well. Her reaching diamond got a lot of views

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568873
he's only good at games, zero personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568955
It's her main game tho.

[Anonymous No.]

The map sucks. Is there any operation locker or metro map in this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568980
>>11568900
>3k
2 hours ago

[Anonymous No.]

I think nene already beat Mito

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568980
t. person who doesn't understand Selen numbers
cant blame you, she is midget afterall

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568799
She clearly has an audience, they just don't care much about her non-music content. It's just like how Gura has fuck you VOD metrics for how erratic her CCV is and how little she streams. They're there but they don't behave like they're watching streamers... and the money trail shows it.

[Anonymous No.]

>ayame sick
>migo sick
>marine kinda sick
Pegora and Gura better watch out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569006
See, my expectations were reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569013
Yep. Is that Kirby game she’s playing sponsored? Fan participation? Seems a little strong for Nene to get that high CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569042
>marine kinda thick*

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569042
>Ayame sick
thats just her default state tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569042
Ayame sick? Oh no!! Please rest well Ojou, take another month break if you like

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568906
That's Lauren not Leos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569065
You know you faggots can just click on the stream right?
She's playing Smash with viewer participation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569065
Anon.. its smash bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569065
looks like she mogged some Niji along the way.
holobros cannt stop winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569042
>ayame sick
Let's be honest, that doesn't really matter for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569065
Nene's doing a 1-win and done challenge in Smash Ultimate...
and she's done LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569065
Challenge streams seem to do well for HoloJP.

I wonder why HoloEN aren't doing these kind of streams. Except for maybe Fauna and her speedruns in Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569104
>Holofaggots
>watching streams
rumao, good joke. They only look at the numbers go up and jerk themselves off. And then maybe watch a clip later

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569042
Ayame is a numberfag, she's gonna keep taking breaks until she consistently gets 50k CCV every time she streams
Lazy cute oni I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

any holo who could actually finish a game like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eHf8tbbT0w

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569125
>HoloEN
>Challenge streams
Calli
Ame
Kiara
Gura (befor Motivation buff)
/post

[Anonymous No.]

CCV at this moment
Nijisanji 66.6k (29 streams)
Hololive 59.9k (5 streams)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569134
>”They only look at the numbers go up and jerk themselves off”, he says derisively
>In the numbers jacking off thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569134
>They only look at the numbers go up and jerk themselves off. And then maybe watch a clip later
>Stream has 18k CCV
Don't respond to me with shit this retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569134
It's not exclusive to Holofans anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569134
niji cope is SO sweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>11568887
>platform specific
That I am aware of, Twitch is the only major video platform where VODs aren't permanently saved for future viewing. It's so bad Twitch streamers turn to YouTube for reels and VOD uploads. Your argument is flawed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569168
Korone and Flare without doubt , several others might but it will be a lot of loooong loooong streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569168
Kanata

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569181
That's a bit more even than the last few times I've see the comparison posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569322
Pekora cancelled her main steam for today and left a hole in the primetime

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569134
lmao nijifag is pretty salty today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569322
There's 12 Nijis streaming the same BFV tournament rn as Botan and Towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569374
>Salty
>is mogging your whores in total CCV
rumao, are you sure it isn't Holocope?

[Anonymous No.]

just stop replying to this shitposter already retards

[Anonymous No.]

>11569402
>beating Holos by only 6k
>29 streams vs 5 streams
Never thought Nijicope could be THIS delicious

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569402
Here it is, new nijicope lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569402
>total
here it comes, nijicope.
why dont you talk about "total CCV" during normal day nijifag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569423
But we're bored, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>ENTERS HOLOTORI
7k waiting room, points out to a 15k min stream

PREDICTIONS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569525
>PREDICTIONS
KIara's channel, so less then it could be

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569525
>Shuba buff
>Kiara debuff
Which one's stronger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569552
Kiara debuff of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569525
>Kiara's channel
20k if lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569483
you are bored? i have a radical solution anon. watch some streams
the tournaments a blast, my oshi Nene is streaming, Flare and Aqua are singing and Sora is showing people how to git gud at darts. i am sure there are enough indie and niji streams to watch as well like the goddess of grand strategie that is taking a break to play some mc instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569552
>Shuba buff
>Kiara debuff
>Which one's stronger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569552
Kiara debuff. Never doubt the power of bad mic/shitty voice to debuff the HELL outta a stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569525
Damn Kiara's debuff will kick in.
But maybe Holotori is the one she needs to make herself rise again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569525
Turducken is kinda shitty name

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569595
JP debuff obv. EOPs will be turned off from watching because they will most likely only speak in Japanese to accommodate for Subaru

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569592
>i have a radical solution anon. watch some streams
i'm literally doing it in the second tab, chill out

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569601
This. One of the reasons people (me) got filtered from Kiara is her voice. I can't even watch my oshi if she is in the same call as her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569609
Not until she adjusts her sound settings/makes her voice less grating on normal streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569592
Aqua Karaoke is already on another tab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569608
It sounds kinda german. I guess its Kiara' idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569635
>Subaru
she has best EN in HoloJP, but im sure they will speak JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569608
>Turducken
It’s a “traditional” dish in the US, where poor people trying to brag about their “wealth” cook a Thanksgiving Turkey filled with a duck filled with a chicken.

Rich people just eat a regular turkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569639
Thought holo streams are supposed to be top vtuber entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569525
>Holotori without Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569672
It's a food anon. Roasted Turkey stuffed with Duck stuffed with Chicken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569714
Kiara is a bitch and doesn't consider Mumei as part of Holotori

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569673
>>11569695
That was more of a joke since it starts with "turd"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569702
Karaokes are best enjoyed in another tab, unless it's Ame who likes doing on screen stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>no Russian in Botan's chat
Have they give up on her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569741
Mumei is busy so she might've been invited but can't join.
However i did notice that among Myth, Kiara has the least interaction with Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569608
>TURkey-DUCK-chickEN
I dunno, it's kind of cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569714
>>11569741
>TURDUCKEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569741
>doesn't want a roastie join her roster
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>11567614
They will definitely be higher a bit, because of the new look plus doing her old stuff. How much higher is uncertain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569714
>>11569741
Why would they invite someone that will unlikely join because of whatever she does everyday, she will just drag the collab LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like Botan has stalled out. Got culled earlier and she is not gonna reach 30k unless something extra special happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569635
They seem to be speaking in English for the stream
25k then. I'm hopeful

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569791
they ve got lefty Fox now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569639
then the next time you are feeling tempted to bite the bait just write something in the streamer chat instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569822
That's mostly because Kiara can't make the random minecraft vc shenanigans. While everyone is having fun she is sleeping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569882
>write something in the streamer chat
sry im not doing this bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569880
Who is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569791
they only talk when there is a translator in chat. Check her 1m celebration comments if you wanna see them

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569882
But anon...we're at bump limit! That's primetime to bite the bait!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569929
New NijiEN
and no, I don't think the Russians are gonna flock to the hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569929
nijiEN(ru) Nina

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569741
why would she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569958
they dont care, she is almost THEonly big chuba who acknowledge them.
belive me i know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569791
They are busy watching dota2 now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570021
>big
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569181 Update
Nijisanji 68k (31 streams)
Hololive 70.8k (10 streams)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570074
I believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569181
>>11570116
quantity vs quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570121
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Dota%202

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570116
Without streams on the following channels: Ayame, Pekora, Gura, Subaru, Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569402
hey, anon>>11570116
any comments?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570166
Well looks like the tournament thingy is ending so numbers should go down now.
>>11570170
Anon why are you coping like this? I don't need you to cope for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570074
They're at the finals lol. Figures

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569827
>HOLOTORI
So what? The group is incomplete

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570170
+Miko

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570116
Still pretty insane that Hololive can beat Nijisanji without any of their heavy hitters (Gura, Ayame, Marine, Pekora, Miko, etc) in total CCV during Japanese primetime. Literally sending out the bench to deal with the other team like it's a damn preseason game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569647
The problem with kiara are not just her voice. She like to push shit instead doing it naturally like this whole holo bird shit. Subaru never push the duck meme it happen naturally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569879
>>11569525
They seem to be at 11.7k right now. Could have sworn I saw 12.5k before I tabbed out though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570218
>So what? The group is incomplete
not my business lazy bitch
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1449466478604943360

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569552
This collab being in English is probably the biggest debuff right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570074
>382k live viewers now on dota_ti twitch
I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

>Nene dumped half her viewers by titling her stream [Stream ends with 1 win] but continuing to play even after getting the win

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570332
>English Kiara
More shrill, worse on the ears, but can understand the entire collab
>Japanese Kiara
Less shrill, but EOP filtered by inability to understand
Lose/lose

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570352
That's the en stream which are pretty normal numbers for their superbowl finals. Look at the russian stream, 500k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570399
>Kiara
who cares?
Subaru, who is Heavy hitter IS JP streamer (as well as her main audience)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570398
i mean she did "end" the stream 3 times. and that kind of goofy joke is nothing unusual for her nor other holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570398
Fauna should start playing dota2

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570522
>never watched low tier moba streams
ppl will ruin this already boring shit in 1st game

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570522
no, she should not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570596
agree
you can Not SLAP in donta2

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570377
oh for fucks.
this was meant for you >>11570477

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570522
You really think any of the holo can play dota 2 huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569714
>Mumei
>stream
She’s Ayame tier and I still don’t know how FBK can drag Ayame sometimes on collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570691
>Valve's game
>holo played Portal
elaborate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570477
No, the previous times she "ended" was because she won without following by the house rules she set, which is why she had to continue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570691
Fauna said she played it during her PokeMoba stream. But yeah she shouldn't play it. Singsing is the only one that made dota fun, and he's ex pro

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570767
What I mean is that no one has the skill to play dota 2 well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11570798
>Singsing
wasnt her pro in 2014?

[Anonymous No.]

It's nice to imagine if Cover can partner with Valve on AR/VR tech (Look at TI AR tech), but they're too deep in CCP's pockets or are afraid of them to Collab with Cover due to Taiwan Yab. But if China implodes themselves on the entertainment side, I can see Valve becoming more confident and see the next opportunity to cash in from virtual YouTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

The “Kiara dehuff field” is something real, out of this world and likely fixable.
People mention sound issues. Could be something else adding to it too, for example (but not necessarily applicable): meta tags, lack of consistency in slots, use of Twitter to announce while most of the audience is on YouTube (or vice versa).

Veritassium made a video highlighting a series of experiments he made with title and thumb and the “instant” feedback he gets from YouTube analytics that allowed him to max his viewership with some experimenting.
I wish HoloChicks would do that. Only one really experimenting with that is Haachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571180
>Sora getting 6k playing dart

Is this normal number?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571275
Higher than normal.
She is really good at darts I guess?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571275
Nope. She played with Pekora on her Totsu and dabbed so hard on her it became one of the highlight clips of that stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571180
Veritasium also did some shady shit like changing his video's title and thumbnail few days after releasing to bait viewers who've seen the video to click and view it again. Disgusting but it works, literally double views on all his videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571404
It’s enough to jump start the YouTube cycle of recommendations.
He’s a smart numberfag, his only mistake was saying it out loud

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571082
China only cares about what's in the chinese Steam

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571510
It is not a mistake as literally his viewers accept this disgusting behaviour.

[Anonymous No.]

Does unarchived karaoke's affect CCV of holos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571707
Yep. Moona, for instance, gets 6-8k for unarchived and half that for archived

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571404
Don't say that a thumbnail helps getting more views/viewers, you will wake up all the Kuzuhafags

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571707
The setlist of unarchived karaokes tend to pull in more people. Moona does early 10s pop and disney on hers, which always draw in a crowd.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the winner of the day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572499

[Anonymous No.]

>>11571617
It's not disgusting, it's playing with the algorithm. Big channels HAVE to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11569791
Botan's Russian regulars came to the collective decision to avoid using livechat to not getting compared to the chinks

[Anonymous No.]

Wow Kiara that's a totally unexpected win

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572499
I'm watching Dota 2 at a bar right now so I can't copy paste the list from my pc. Pekora won the day with 39k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572627
Good, RU underdogs is beating the all-star Chinese team right now on Dota.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572627
>even Russians looked down on the Chinks
Chinks are really subhuman huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572661
Damn TS now 2-0. Last match was pretty fun to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572718
After what happened to Coco and the behavior of the chinks during the chinkout I don't think there's a single entity on the planet that doesn't look down on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572694
2-0 holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes

>FUTURE EVENTS
19) Suisei - Outfit Reveal
21) Marine - Return Stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573000
It ain't over yet though. Not the time to let your guard down.

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized something while watching Dota. The casters are huge numberfags and theory crafters. What the fuck, I see a lot of them in me while posting in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573093
It's like that for any sport/e-sport

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573093
>I see a lot of them in me while posting in this thread
I have to say that came out way gayer than you likely intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573139
Kek true

[Anonymous No.]

>>11572772

Yeah, this will be around for at least a year or two, until China's next big fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573093
Dota 2 has a lot of quantifiable aspects, other esport competitive games probably have them too for their casters.

[Anonymous No.]

>A rebroadcast is the most viewed Holo stream right now
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573093
There are a lot of trackable stats in dota.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573234
Everyone except Sora and Roboco looks like they entered SC reading.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori is doing a karaoke stream every week and rebroadcasting it at her break day
So far she's doing good

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573293
Flare is still singing, right? Well actually she just had Patra call in as a guest

[Anonymous No.]

>>11573365
>>11573365
>>11573365
Migrate when ready