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In the light of upcoming Japanese general election one of historically strongest Japanese opposition parties - the Japanese Communist Party debuts it's own political vtuber show.
https://youtu.be/prya9nUOr0I
https://youtu.be/pIlCGWvtesg
Featuring JCP original characters that are already familiar to those that follow JCP published advertising material and manga.

What are your thoughts about it? Are vtubers now truly mainstream? How it will affect the perception of JCP and Japanese politics in general?

>> No.11842018
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it's not the first time they do something unique like this
https://youtu.be/jD9XIM7C7UM

they even invented term for it "lovable communism"

>> No.11842094

>>11841923
>Chinese puppets
can the Yakuza cut these fags up and mail the remains to Xi already

>> No.11842121

>>11841923
based

>> No.11842122
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>>11842018
She looks like a Pokemon NPC, hopefully japs have higher standars.

>> No.11842200

>>11842094
Japanese Communist Party ironically is the most anti-Chinese party in Japan
compared to them Abe's LDP are zhang bootlickers

>> No.11842242

>>11842094
You are about dumb as shit anon. The Japanese Communist Party is cool

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>>11841923
>Japanese Communist Party debuts it's own political vtuber show.
Didn't China literally try to do this months back and everyone hated it?
I have no idea if Japanese citizens currently love their politics or not.

>> No.11842260

>>11842094
You're retarded. The JCP no longer has positive relations to China & views them unfavorably, they cut ties. In the modern day the JCP are basically social democrats with a Marx motif, not internet tankies.

>> No.11842292

>>11842094
t. doesn't know anything about Japanese politics and what JCP stands for

they are basically civil nationalist social democratic anti-Chinese, anti-globalist party

>> No.11842340

>>11841923
They'll not get too far with this if they want otaku votes. They want to regulate the anime and manga industry saying that many works are a source of CP (of course talking about fictional underage characters)
>So-called "non-existent child pornography" can harm the dignity of children by spreading the false social notion that it is okay to use children as objects and outlets for sexual desire and violence, even if no one is harming real or living children.

http://otakomu.jp/archives/27696290.html

>> No.11842345

>>11842200
I'm sure the JCP are pro-Taiwan too right.

>> No.11842374

>>11842248
fun fact, Shinzo Abe recently launched his own vlog channel

I also wouldn't compare authoritarian China with democracy like Japan. If LDP wanted they could launch their own vtubers as well.

>> No.11842396

>>11842094
Japanese Communist Party is heavily against anime censorship and such things

>> No.11842419

>>11842396
>>11842340
?

>> No.11842422

>>11842345
JCP was the only party to openly support Hong Kong freedom struggle and repeatedly voice radical pro-Taiwan position

>> No.11842465

>>11842340
No they don't
Stop spreading outright lies
I literally read the 赤旗 "red flag" JCP newspaper daily
Also for reference the JCP made their own anime. It was extremely low quality but it was kinda funny to watch.

>> No.11842513

>>11842094
Why would the Japanese Communist Party support a State Capitalist country?

>> No.11842525 [DELETED] 

>>11842340
yeah that point is completely stupid
but not like LDP is any better, they also wanted to do that but were stopped by artist organisations

>> No.11842562

>tfw Japan is a declining one party state run by incompetent morons because of "muh honor"
Sadge

>> No.11842570

>>11842513
>communists
>any resemblance of logic

>> No.11842612

>>11842570
anime and communism go hand in hand and if you don't think that you are not based my friend and should kill yourself

>> No.11842627

>>11842340
but isn't JCP supported by anime workers unions? that doesn't make any sense

>> No.11842651

>>11842340
>>11842396
>>11842419
>>11842465
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-060.html
>「児童ポルノ規制」を名目にしたマンガ・アニメなどへの法的規制の動きに反対します。
"We oppose legal restrictions to anime and manga put under law by the "Child Pornography Restriction" legislation"

>> No.11842696

>>11842612
>anime and communism go hand in hand
Fucking kek. It will go hand in hand as long they can use it in propaganda.
What some twat from safe country can even know about communism? Go back.
t.someone unlucky enough to born in post communist country

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>>11842651
based
I'm Japanese commie now

>> No.11842766

>>11842696
I hope you understand that what JCP calls "communism" has nothing to do with USSR, China or North Korea. In fact JCP celebrated the fall of Soviet Union when it happened.

>> No.11842775

>>11842696
>my country was an authoritarian shithole before communism
>my country was an authoritarian shithole during communism
>my country is an authoritarian shithole now
maybe the problem isn't communism but your braindead countrymen who need a strong leader to tell them what to do
also a majority of Russian preferred the USSR's rule over the current governments rule. almost like you don't represent everyone living in a post communist state
retard

>> No.11842815
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>>11841923
Is /pol/ allowed now?

>> No.11842836

>>11841923
BAAAASED

>> No.11842840

>>11842570
You should first shut the fuck up and second kill yourself. You have no idea what you're talking about. Go read a fucking book or at least a wiki you idiot

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>>11842612
>Anime/Manga=communism
kek what, its the most well-known capitalistic practice in Japan
mangaka and anime illustrators get paid shit and are easily replaceable like wagecucks since there's thousands of them competing each other while idol actors get most of the anime budget due to how highly regarded they are in Japan

>> No.11842987

>>11842840
Hit a nerve huh

>> No.11843020

>>11842939
I didn't say that the production of anime/manga is communist retard, I have at least a basic knowledge of Japan's economic system, I said anime/manga ITSELF is communist
You listen to Fuwa Fuwa Time and tell me you don't hear the Marxist undertones.

>> No.11843039

>>11842987
Obviously you dirty little bitch! God damn you! I hope for your immediate community's sake that you are either underage or an adult NEET

>> No.11843054

>>11842939
JCP over the years developed close relationships with anime labor unions there are no opposing interests

JCP is also radical about freedom of artistic expression as in recent years ruling LDP tried to push for artistic censorship in the name of "good morals"

>> No.11843055

>>11842987
>be retarded
>say something retarded
>get called retarded
>epicly tip your fedora and say "heh, guess I hit a nerve huh, kid"
retard

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Antichads, WW@?

>> No.11843114

>>11842018
What's "lovable" about "how do you do, fellow kids"? This shit is awful, and the lack of self-awareness from shills trying to push this will just make it even worse.
Whenever political parties try to pretend they're not political parties in their actions to "connect with the youth", you just end up with your brainwashed echochamber patting each other on the backs while everyone else cringes and ignores it.
It may be different in Japan, but this would not get any traction in most countries outside of the people who already agree with everything being said and didn't need any persuasion, like the retards in here who should go back to /pol/.

>> No.11843135

>Japanese politics
Japan is a one-party-state so anything other parties do is irrelevant.

>> No.11843170

>>11843055
>Sperg out like a madman
>Somehow no nerves were hit

>> No.11843218

>>11842696
Hey man if it makes you feel any better you can even blame part of all that on my country, the USA. An ideology didn't do this to your country, let alone one your country didn't even practice

>> No.11843227

>>11843135
To be honest with the Olympics fiasco I wouldn't say that very happily.

>> No.11843229

>>11841923
A thread died for this.
Anon they're unwaifuable, who the fuck cares?
If you are a JCP intern, please don't shit up this board. Go shill them on 5ch or something.

>> No.11843246

>>11843020
Actual Communists like Marx would absolutely DESPISE anime as commodity fetishism.

>> No.11843286
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>>11841923
Japanese communism is truly something bizarre
not complaining though

>> No.11843317

>>11843170
If you have down syndrome you probably shouldn't be on 4chan anon

>> No.11843336

>>11843246
No they wouldn't
Last time I recall Marx wasn't a moralist
t. actually read Marx, not just read later "marxist" authors and pretend I know Marx

>> No.11843367

>>11843218
What country did the USA help install communism?
The United States has opposed communism and even milquetoast socialism literally everywhere in the world since the 1900s.

>> No.11843368

>>11843135
this is the first time all opposition parties will united against LDP block
don't be so sure, especially after Olympics and covid

>> No.11843415

>>11843246
If Marx existed during anime, he would be such a weeb he wouldn't have written the Communist Manifesto

>> No.11843454

>>11843367
I didn't mean that they support communism, rather that they helped facilitate the fall of the Soviet Union

>> No.11843483

>>11843246
Marx would loved moe yuri anime and you can't convince me otherwise

>> No.11843589
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>>11843317
But I thought this site was for the mentally challenged

>> No.11843635

>>11843589
Imagine looking for excuses to be retarded

>> No.11843649

>>11842122
if they violate the NAP then 2 nukes will be the least of their worries

>> No.11843676

>>11843368
The deck is heavily stacked in the LDP's favor.
Turnout is usually as bad as the US, and just take a look at the 2017 general election. The LDP got a third of the votes, but 250 seats. For reference, the next largest party, the CDP, got a fifth of the votes, but only 50 seats.
Just think about that. One party got five times as many seats as the other while only getting 50% more votes. That's fucking disgusting. I would say "imagine living somewhere where a third of the voters decide all policies for everywhere," but I live in the United States which is basically just as bad. Also the UK and Canada too.
Finally, the LDP is winning in the polls. Prepare to be disappointed again.

>> No.11843875
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So jap commies simultaneously oppose any anime censorship and want to purge loli content because of pedophilia
this feels post-truth as fuck, which one is real and which one is phony?

>> No.11843948

>>11843875
>So jap commies simultaneously oppose any anime censorship
truth
>want to purge loli content
false

>> No.11844069

>>11843589
Please do not post frogs here anon. It lowers the quality of discussion

>> No.11844117

58 replies
24 posters
Secret: naming Communism

>> No.11844282

>>11843676
From what I read, the majority of japanese people think parties other than LDP are "anti-japan" I've been following prince Hisahito since 2013 and got myself directed at right-wing matome websites, I don't care about JP politics but I personally hate them ever since JCP openly support female Tenno and Aiko instead of my prince

>> No.11844369

>>11844282
Supported how? For succession?
That's gross.

>> No.11844443

>>11844282
there is literally nothing wrong with females on the throne, especially if she is cute, for fuck sake we have historical precedent too - Himiko

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>>11841923
Just like communism, the politicization of aesthetics will never work.

>> No.11844513

>>11844468
ironic that you post with hardcore non binary lefty

>> No.11844554

Anyways eventually the era of vtuber propagandists has come.
That’s what I have waited for long.
>revise the constitution and wipe out all the commies on the earth, PEKO!
>Shuba! Hang the bourgeoisie up on the streetlights!

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>>11844513
>Kronii
>lefty
Take your meds

>> No.11844612

>>11844571
roommate reps

>> No.11844645

>>11844369
Kek you should have know they're two-faced hypocrite bastard. How tf a communist party support monarchy? They are also dragging minors into succession dispute. >>11844443
[Spoiler] left-wings are Making black campaign videos against prince Hisahito in YouTube, intruding his school and put a knife on his desk, nah allowing girls in the succession order is positive but usurpation isn't cool[/spoiler]

>> No.11844729

>>11844554
Which chuuba will advocate for stoicism

>> No.11844730

>>11844282
>>11844369
>>11844443
>>11844645
monarchų is cringe af

>> No.11844733

Don't care, flood the nation with Nigerians

>> No.11844779
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>>11844729
>None other than..

>> No.11844807

>>11844730
And JCP is also cringe for supporting it. Now go back to /poll/ commienigger

>> No.11844808

>>11844733
it will be worse
it will be Indonesians
Japan wants that sweet indog pussy

>> No.11844912
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>>11844612
Just because she's a hot dyke doesnt mean she actually subscribe to whatever lunacy Amerimutts and Europoors are pumping out lately.

>> No.11844916

>>11844779
You picked my oshi bro I could cry rn

>> No.11844919

>>11842422
>>11842651
Wait... Are you telling me Japan's politics aren't exactly the same as my country's? And there might even be things that directly disagree with my worldview???
Bros, I thought Japan was supposed to be the based and redpilled land of my dreams...

>> No.11844946

>>11844571
no, you're just not aware, it's ok, just watch the streams and pretend there's nothing more to it than that

>> No.11844995
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>>11844912

>> No.11845028

>>11844919
Don't worry anon, it is. Yamato nadeshiko and book-offs as far as the eye can see. Compulsory catgirl chimera gfs by 2050. Trains ripe for the groping...

>> No.11845062

>>11844729
>Stoicism
21st century meme. Asians will embrace the Ghita which is stoicism but smart.

>>11844571
There's nothing wrong with that you dont have to cope

>> No.11845106
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>I really can’t tell what political position the person of the pic would take… I mean mildly liberal or far right..

>> No.11845111

>>11844946
>>11844995
>>11845062
>c-cope!
take your meds. You definitely need it

>> No.11845121

>>11843875
Read nigga
>>11842651

>> No.11845267

>>11845062
>Asians will embrace the Ghita which is stoicism but smart.
Oh really? I haven't read it myself; guess my power level wasn't as high as I thought

>> No.11845350

>>11843367
The US can be considered partially responsible for the Cuban revolution.

>> No.11845372

>>11843102
Summon him. He is needed once more.

>> No.11845401

You've gotta hand it to the USA:

>> No.11845418

wtf you told me americans would do this

>> No.11845501
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>>11842651
>put under law by the "Child Pornography Restriction" legislation"
I think I got it.. They are just worrying if the gov gonna put limitations on the right of free speech, like when some vtuber becomes a political icon that’s inconvenient for the establishment they call it pedo and then ban her from the society.

>> No.11845590

>>11843102
>an unwitting pawn of the yakuza and the CIA
>chad

>> No.11845617

>>11845590
Yes.

>> No.11845721

>>11841923
BURN IT

>> No.11845872
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I just love seeing reactions of foreigners who knows nothing about JCP or Japanese politics
when they hear the critical info their entire worldview crumbles

>> No.11845980

less than 2 weeks since Nina's debut and this is what we get

>> No.11846002

>>11841923
As a commie & fan of the JCP, I wish they got better Vtuber designs and models.
That independent Japanese Vtuber Politician got Itou Life-Sensei to design his, the Communist Party should've got better designs and artists. Who needs to spend money on campaigning when you I can spend it on high quality Vtuber models. I need my loli and big boob communists to discuss why I should vote for them

>> No.11846038

What a world we're living in.

>> No.11846055

>>11845872
yeah but gommulism bad i am free thinker

>> No.11846075

>>11845980
She personally lobbied the Japanese Communist Party to make vtubers, it's true.

>> No.11846088

>>11846055
This but unironic.

>> No.11846107

>>11846055
You will never be a woman.

>> No.11846123

>>11846002
>commies
>affording better models

>> No.11846146

>>11841923
The Chinese are backing them up, I'm going to downvote their videos lol.

>> No.11846165

>>11846075
The Nijisanjification will only be complete when every political party in Japan belongs as Vtubers under Nijisanji's umbrella.

>> No.11846245

>>11846107
Good, I never intend to be
You will never touch a woman

>> No.11846247

>>11846002
while I agree, I think that there are two reasons why your wish will not materialise - JCP over the years got a bit too reliant of feminist vote, they would hate even slightly sexual characters also this is short-term electoral campaign, not long term project

>> No.11846303
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Gommunism this, gapitalist that. Fuck that gay noise. Where the fuck is my sterner-like egoist chuuba? Which holo would represent that ideology best?

>> No.11846323

>>11846146
The Chinese hate JCP and vice versa though

>> No.11846338

>>11846146
See:
>>11842200
>>11842422
They literally said "The CCP doesn't deserve to call themselves a communist party because of what they've done in Hong Kong"
You can hate the rest of their politics, but pro-China they are not.

>> No.11846349

>>11846247
I know but the feminists get upset at everything anyways, if talking about gender equality and making society more fair all the time isn't enough for them they can go fuck off to another left wing party

>> No.11846376

>>11846245
>unironically defending communism with a shitty npc strawman on fucking /vt/
>le hole argument when someone makes fun of you
Holy shit are you a pathetic soul.

>> No.11846421

>>11846376
you don't even know what communism is or how JCP imagines it you EOP poltard

>> No.11846425
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>>11844729

>> No.11846449

>>11846425
I want to put her limbless body in my suitcase.

>> No.11846482

>>11841923
Can they put some effort into the avatar? And here i thought JCP is all into that Yamato Nadeshiko shit.

>> No.11846484

>>11846421
This. /pol/acks are as usual in way over their heads

>> No.11846494

>>11846303
>egoism
>ideology
Someone needs to read The Unique and Its Property again.

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>>11846449

>> No.11846533

>>11841923
>>11842018
>>11842248
>government vtubers
I thought I would see at least 20 company brand vtubers before I see this shit being a thing, what the fuck?

>> No.11846573

>>11846533
We are all citizens of the dictatorship of capital anon

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>>11846494
Make me nerd. Its an ideology because I say it is nigger faggot

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>>11846303

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>>11844729

>> No.11846626

>>11846376
Bold words from someone who pulled out a stock troll line about some trans idpol bullshit

>> No.11846637

>>11846581
Who's that soldier fellow on the right with the dick sucking lips?

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>>11846533
It's common sense party leaders want the youth to continue to care about them for future loyalists, thus they bring their presence into things the youth loves. It's been that way for decades.

>> No.11847626

>>11841923
porn of the girl when?

>> No.11847839

>>11844513
Source: trust me bro.

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her twitter:
https://twitter.com/koyounoyooko?t=UNaFpWuFtQM9FxMvF6Srtw&s=09

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>>11847626
soonTM

>> No.11848127

Since this is the election related thread, do you think any of those government voting cars blaring voting information through their sirens like icecream trucks are going to out any Vtubers locations IRL? It seems incredibly dangerous for Vtubers because people can 100% track shit down, even if they can't hear what voting district they're in, but purely the timing of when they heard it.

>> No.11848265

>>11848127
I never thought about it, but there is a small possibility it could lead to location doxx, but I trust that any chuuba closes their window while streaming.
also majority of party trucks seem to stick in the city centres, so you shouldn't worry that much about it

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>>11841923
>>11842242
>>11842292
>>11842396
>>11842465
>>11842612
>>11842651
>>11842723
>>11842840
>>11843875
>>11843948
>>11844919
>>11845501
>>11845872
>>11846002
>>11846421


>The Japanese Communist Party is cool
>anti-globalist
>The JCP wants to protect anime

None of you have any idea what you're talking about. In fact, it's actually kind of surreal that this popped up as a topic here as the JCP was trending the other day in Japan.
So excuse me while I blow you all the fuck out.

You see, in pursuit of doing my REPs, I decided to switch the location of my twitter to Japan. In doing so, not only has twitter become infinitely better with almost no trace of identity politics, pozzed media, or feminist shrieking, it also made my recommended tags whatever's trending in Japan. Well, a couple of days ago, the term "non-existent child pornography" was trending at the top of the list. It turned out it was because the JCP had just released their 2021 list of policies and positions on their website

First, to give you an idea of what the JCP is like, here are some of the usual stances the party is known for:
increasing foreign influence and migrant workers,
wanting to give citizenship to non-Japanese to increase the diversity of Japan,
making it easier for women to accuse men of rape by broadening the definition of sexual offenses,
increasing the civil and criminal penalties for harassment and promote a "#metoo culture",
promoting equity through compulsory gender quotas,
correcting the "gender pay gap",
promote LGBT equality and protections including gay marriage,
enhance social security from a gender perspective,
increase the number of women in decision-making and promote "gender mainstreaming" that sticks to gender perspectives in all policies,
the removal of all US military bases,
further compensate the "comfort women" of WWII.
allow women to select their surname for marriage,
destroy hate speech and make it a criminal offense,
drastically increase the number of refugees,

The reason they were trending however is specifically, in their Women and Gender Policy, they updated it with the attached section. Believe it or not, almost everyone using that tag was expressing anger and disbelief that the JCP would go that far. Additionally, they continued to avoid elaborating on their stance about this issue when asked by news media. The asterisk seen in the attached image was added after news of the new section blew up on twitter. They never revised the policy itself, however. Notice how the asterisk obviously contradicts the section immediately following it.

The Japanese Communist Party is basically a puppet representative of the far left ideology of the United States political system. But don't take my word for it. Read it yourself. Just right click on these pages and hit "translate to English" to see how similar they are to a far left Democrat's wet dream.

Women and Gender Policy
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-007.html
Violence Against Women Policy
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-010.html
Harassment Policy
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-011.html
LGBT Policy
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-012.html
Hate Speech Policy
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-014.html
Immigration and Foreign Workers Policy
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-069.html
Overall List of Policy Topics
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021-sosenkyo-index.html#_bunya-index

>> No.11850275
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11850275

>>11850153
Anon, the posts you're responding to are likely commies here to shill the JCP as an introduction to communism in the first place.

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11850389

>>11850153
I think all their points except the ones in the picture posted are based
seeth more poltard

>> No.11850437

>>11850153
>The Japanese Communist Party is basically a puppet representative of the far left ideology of the United States political system
lmao yeah the DSA instilled an SJW puppet party in Japan in 1922
Take your meds, retard

>> No.11850520

>>11850153
so they corrected themselves that they have nothing against manga and anime and it was just another netouyo blown up nothingburger?

>> No.11850596

>>11850153
>part you quoted literally says they don't consider manga/anime child porn and want to stop actual CP without harming freedom of expression
???
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get where you're getting "They hate loli/shota now actually"
And I agree with the rest

>> No.11850604

>>11850389
Get out of here, liberal counterrevolutionary.

>> No.11850719

>>11850153
>american democratic party
>far left
you’re a bit far from your BLACKED threads /pol/ack

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11850765

bros if Kazuo Shii doesn't transform to magical girl babiniku chuuba I don't think I can support him...

>> No.11850776

>>11850153
>increasing foreign influence and migrant workers,
Nice, but only if its from other developed countries or has a strong vetting system to keep high quality migrants coming in.

>> No.11850830

>>11850153
wtf based

>> No.11850840
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What party are JP holos going to vote for? I think that's the most relevant question here

>> No.11850847 [DELETED] 

I just don't get how people can be unironically communist after seeing it fail for the last half century? Like Capitalist influence will always smother Communist economies and you aren't going to have a global revolution.
Unironically your only chance at "True communism" is a colony on another planet that is completely unconnected to Earth or other Capitalist colonies.

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>>11850153
That's a mighty big post for something I don't give a shit about

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>>11845418
you're a year late anon, we already had an American vtuber get political on stream

>> No.11850965

>>11850847
> unironically communist
Most of them are dumb college kids while the talking heads are grifters.

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>>11850840
Who cares about hololive, who is noraneko voting for? She's mutuals with a bunch of politicians would she potentially harm those relationships by voting for a party or will she just go neutral and decide not to vote?

>> No.11851010

>>11850840
Japanese younger than 40 don't vote

ayame is loyal Nippon Ishin no Kai voter tabun

>> No.11851115

>>11850977
Noraneko us obviously "The party fighting against NHK in the trial for violating Article 72 of the Attorney Act" voter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Party_to_Protect_the_People_from_NHK

>> No.11851151

>>11850847
I don't care about a full command economy (in fact I'm kind of against it, but I don't know enough about macroecon to have a strong opinion)
I'm just pro-workers rights, unions, etc. and in favor of welfare programs. Doesn't matter how it works on top to me, just how it impacts the people on the ground.

>> No.11851228

>>11850153
I don't blame you for not knowing, but don't worry. The powers behind Japan are aware of the three essential elements of spiritual well-being and they know history. Very far back. This and everything they do is compensation and strategy.
Of course, if you're JIDF, you'll believe only when it's too late and seethe.

>> No.11851301

>>11851010
>Japanese younger than 40 don't vote
Then who is Mr Koro voting for?

>> No.11851375

>>11850153
>The Japanese Communist Party is basically a puppet representative of the far left ideology of the United States political system. But don't take my word for it. Read it yourself. Just right click on these pages and hit "translate to English" to see how similar they are to a far left Democrat's wet dream.
You are deeply retarded, anon. No Democrat would seriously advocate for the removal of US military bases

>> No.11851453

>>11850153
Those all seem like very reasonable policies.

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11851463

wtf bros you told communism was cringe for years but its actually based? why are there so many antis here?

>> No.11851601

>>11851301
despite appearing sometimes rebellious korosan is actually deeply pragmatic political conformist and votes for "welfare conservative" - Komeito

I can easily see Koro and her mother being members of Soka Gakkai

>> No.11851716

>>11850437
>I'm an idiot and I think political parties don't change over time, especially Japan's, which haven't seen any significant political events that completely reshaped the country in the last 100 years.

>>11850520
>>11850596
Are you retarded?
They didn't correct shit. Read the paragraph right below the asterisk castigating the current law's inability to deter loli/shota manga and how they wish to change that.

>>11850389
>>11850719
>Anyone who disagrees with globalhomo by longing to prevent the loss of the world's unique cultures is a racist /pol/tard.
Try again you knuckle-dragging, air-gulping, cum-gargling faggots.

>>11851228
Can someone translate this schizo post?

>> No.11851819

>>11851463
Communism antis? Because of generations of brainwashing

>> No.11851983

>>11851716
>Can someone translate this schizo post?
Sure.

>Fear not reader, for I am here with wisdom from /x/. I tell you truly that the Japanese are a race of ascended masters that stand shoulder to shoulder with Christ. Trust in Him and the Japanese. Of course, if you are among the ranks of the Antichrist, I can only hope that you see the error of your ways before it is too late.

>> No.11852017

>>11851819
Because we read basic economics

>> No.11852058

>>11852017
How old are you?

>> No.11852093

>>11852017
no one including wallstreet bankers know economics
economics is a spook, a fairytale to continue fuck over the little one

>> No.11852164

>>11851716
>Read the paragraph right below the asterisk castigating the current law's inability to deter loli/shota manga and how they wish to change that.
Anon, your reading comprehension reps...
"Non-existent child pornography" was phrasing used in a controversial law in Japan a long while back. That's what their referencing with that.
And if you actually read the part with the UN thing, they're saying THE UN thinks Japan needs to regulate more, but THEY think the idea that something can be CP without actually harming a child is a "false social notion" and is harmful. I.e., they're against considering loli/shota as CP or restricting freedom of expression when it's involved.
I'd be curious to see the JP twitter reactions you mentioned, because I'm willing to bet they're more surprised at them outright saying "Yes, Japan produces a fuck ton of anime/manga involving extreme sexual violence against children, and we're actively for protecting people's right to make/consume that"

>> No.11852197

>>11851463
Anon, if its based then why hasn't it ever worked?

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>>11852197

>> No.11852324

>>11852276
If it can't withstand outside influence then it must not be a very good system. Ideally no one would need a military either but here we are.

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where is my commie loli chuuba that shits on massive corporations daily

>> No.11852378

>>11852197
Some might tell you that it never worked because those were failed attempts to get closer communism rather an actual communist societies; true communism hasn't happened. Humanity has achieved controlled fusion reactions but not on a scale enough to affect the power grid, communism even on the scale of USSR or Pol Pot's regime was not even close enough for it to be considered true communism.

>> No.11852399

>>11852164
/pol/fags aren't interested in learning languages except to bolster their own agenda so all of them are EOPs in disguise.

>> No.11852433

>>11852324
It will only work once everyone but the USA starts a Minecraft server together.

>> No.11852504

>>11852378
Ok so if we don't have the tools to initiate true communism then why do we have communist parties at all trying to push in that direction? Why not instead just push for more regulated and fair capitalism until we (if we ever do) get to a point where resources are so abundant that we can enter this utopic true communism?
>>11852433
Even if the US wasn't around China would still stop any real communist societies with their mercantilism. Its not like the US is the only nation with capitalist influence even if it is the largest economically.

>> No.11852634

>>11852504
>Even if the US wasn't around China would still stop any real communist societies with their mercantilism.
True, that is a pretty glaring omission I've made here. Bummer man.

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>>11852326
>karaoke stream
>she opens with The Internationale

>> No.11852764

>>11850153
>>11851716
>ここで言う「描写物」には、漫画やアニメなどは含みません。詳しくは下記のリンクをご覧ください。
"The 'sexual depiction' mentioned here does not include Mangs or Anime. For more details click the link below."
https://www.jcp.or.jp/web_policy/2021/10/2021s-bunya-007.html
Use google translate because I won't do all of it. They're asked if their opposition to depictions of child abuse and their stance of freedom of expression & being against the regulation of manga and anime are contradictory. They say no. You can want to create a society where things promoting harming real children is socially unacceptable while having freedom of expression in anime and games.
So they won't take away or ban your lolis. They want people to understand real child abuse isn't ok, not censor anime.

>> No.11852794

>>11852164
LOL

I check jp twitter regularly and you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. A lot of anti-censorship people are feeling betrayed by the JCP, including the feminist group that told the UN to gtfo.

>> No.11852808

>>11852399
Yeah, I even checked the link that he said was them refusing to elaborate, and it was literally "They want to change it so it's focused on the harm done to the child rather than obscenity" which is... Exactly what the pro lolisho stance is based on. The anti lolisho stance COMES FROM "this is obscene and shouldn't exist", which is, as far as I can tell what they want the law to be changed away from.

>> No.11852830

>>11846338
so theyre essentially democratic socialists? Thats even gayer. Literally the DSC of Japan

>> No.11852848

>>11852764
Which, I think, to add, most reasonable people hold the same stance the Communist party of fiction is ok, doing it IRL is fucked.

>> No.11852949

>>11852794
It's entirely possible I'm just missing something, but it would help if you actually posted the reactions so I could see for myself.

>> No.11853002

>>11852830
what? how

>> No.11853036

>>11852764
They want to create a “social consensus” with publishers and society so that loli/shota content becomes “unprofitable” and creators feel pressured into no longer making it.

A representative of the party just literally said that in a recent interview.

>> No.11853204

>>11852949
Check the tweets and rts of Ken Akamatsu, Taro Yamada, etc. to name a few.

>> No.11853480

angelsvibestan aka Kumiko Yamada aka the woman that btfo of the UN and her colleagues don’t like what the JCP is proposing.

>> No.11853554

>>11853204
>>11853036
Hmm, yeah, it seems like the autotranslate >>11850153 had came out poorly. I stand by that based on THAT it sounded like the opposite of what the post said, but I see it now. Unfortunate.

>> No.11854108

>>11842374
>Shinzo Abe recently launched his own vlog channel
>Anyways my nakamas I gotta bounce, remember that condoms cause cancer and the hikkikomori life will get you killed faster than the chinese burnt their own bridges in Nanjing! OtsuAbe!

>> No.11854123

>>11850153
seems like a really bog standard centre left party lmao

>> No.11854269

>>11852399
Again I'm not /pol/.

>>11852164
Every Japanese Twitter response I found was negative.
You can search for the trending word: 非実在児童ポルノ which means "non-existing child pornography" so if you're uncomfortable with the term, then just search
女性とジェンダー 非実在, which is "Women and Gender", the title of the section being discussed, and the "non-existent" characters from the previous term.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7%E3%81%A8%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%20%E9%9D%9E%E5%AE%9F%E5%9C%A8&src=typed_query&f=top

>>11852764
>>11852808
Japan runs on social pressure and community-imposed self restraint, anon. You have to navigate through that on top of the equivocation and question dodging that is ubiquitous with all politicians.

Remember how I said I was doing my REPs? I screenshot the English translation just for you and you still can't read it. I'm just disappointed, anon.
The reference to the UN's 2016 recommendation was when the UN Committee for the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women created a subcommittee to review Japan's record on women's rights. Concluding the proceedings, the subcommittee created a list of objectives every country should focus on to stem discrimination and violence against women. Every country present, excluding two, voted to unanimously recommend all objectives, one of which was Japan should "Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence".

The only two countries that voted against the measure were Japan and the United States, on the grounds of harms to personal expression and freedom of expression. Japan's response to the UN decision was written by the head of Japan's Women's Institute of Contemporary Media Culture.

The JCP however, agrees with the recommendations set by the UN and believes that Japan should do more to reduce violence and discrimination against women, including restricting depictions of sexual violence. This is despite the fact that Japan has one of the lowest rates of sexual assault, and violence in general.

Here is forbes covering the decision and reaction
https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/03/03/japanese-response-to-un-proposed-ban-for-media-depicting-sexual-violence-is-cogent-and-sane/
Here is the UN's announcement of the review
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=17028&LangID=E
Here is Japan's response
https://wmc-jpn.blogspot.com/2016/02/blog-post.html
And here is the translation of the response quoted in the forbes article. (reddit, I know. I'm sorry)
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/48ed9t/opinion_japan_womens_institute_of_contemporary/d0iypiz/

>> No.11854300

>>11853554
>Party that wants to censor things they consider inmoral and unnecessary, but not directly so they dont get any legal or public backlash
Yup those are commies alright
Where's a jap sword guy when you need him?

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>>11854269
>The reference to the UN's 2016 recommendation was when the UN Committee for the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women created a subcommittee to review Japan's record on women's rights. Concluding the proceedings, the subcommittee created a list of objectives every country should focus on to stem discrimination and violence against women. Every country present, excluding two, voted to unanimously recommend all objectives, one of which was Japan should "Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence".
>The only two countries that voted against the measure were Japan and the United States, on the grounds of harms to personal expression and freedom of expression. Japan's response to the UN decision was written by the head of Japan's Women's Institute of Contemporary Media Culture.
Oh yeah.

>> No.11854513

>>11852830
seem more like social democrats to me

>> No.11854672
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11854672

FUCK PINKOS
>FUCK PINKOS
FUCK PINKOS
>FUCK PINKOS
FUCK PINKOS
>FUCK PINKOS
FUCK PINKOS

>> No.11855017

>>11854269
https://twitter.com/jcp_cc/status/1450053068968448003

A.いいえ。私たちが提起しているのは、児童ポルノは子どもへの最悪の人権侵害であり、なくすべきだということです。マンガやアニメなどへの法的規制に反対する立場に変わりはありません。
They explicitly say that they oppose legally restricting manga or anime. They also say depictions that promote sexual child abuse are bad. Radical feminists dislike all sexualization, the JCP just talks about promotion of child abuse. People are upset over the JCP talking about "depictions" instead of purely "recording" because it's not as firm a rejection of the law as they did in 2013(2014? I forget). The JCP still is against legal restrictions of anime and manga.

>> No.11855112

>>11850977
All of her pol buddies are LDPs so it's pretty obvious

>> No.11855172

>>11855017
I wish I could be as innocent as this anon.

>> No.11855450

Reminder: all leftism becomes CCP-style totalitarian at some point. And that's a good thing.

>> No.11855507

>>11855450
I just want Biden to send Kana back to Mexico

>> No.11855628

>>11853554
There isn't anything majorly wrong with the auto-translation, you were just refusing to read the tone of what they wrote.

As I said in my post, the asterisk was added after the backlash on twitter and in the media and is basically a big "trust us, guys, we don't want to limit expression. When the first and last paragraph in that image were the original text, with the final paragraph specifically saying "we want to limit expression".
The tone of the last paragraph is especially telling, as they seemingly hold the UN's recommendation as something that should be accepted and followed.

"Non-existent child pornography [= loli/shota manga, anime, and drawings] disseminates the false social notion that a child can be a target of libido, violence, and an outlet, even if it does not harm any real or living child"

How do you not recognize this sentence as that far left mindset common among social justice types in the US? They always say something along the lines of, "the sexualization of minors in drawings, even if they aren't real, promotes real world harm by normalizing the sexual abuse of real children and allowing abusers to justify their actions".

These two sentences are equivalent almost word for word and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the leaders of the JCP were holding meetings with American or European liberal think tanks in order to write their policies to be more in line with "world standards".

>> No.11855645

>>11855172
You know Japanese and can read? They haven't changed their stance on being against legal restriction of anime and manga. People are getting upset over their terminology, that they said media which promote sexual abuse of children should be not socially acceptable, that they aren't as radical in their opposition to the law as they were 8 years ago, and the percieved hypocripsy of how can you be against depictions now but say you are against legal regulations.

>> No.11855877

>>11855507
The latinx rrat was true? I haven't watched her since she moved to Twitch.

>> No.11856208

>>11855645
Again, they plan to regulate through more private means and social pressure, not laws. That’s how they’re justifying their u-turn.

The Women’s Institute of Contemporary Culture doesn’t like this. Listen to them.

>> No.11856255

>>11855645
It's almost as if the Japanese are upset that they are being lied to by the JCP, who say one thing one minute, then backtrack and avoid elaborating the next.

>We think loli/shota manga, anime, and games harm real world children by normalizing sexual abuse and Japan should work with the UN to limit the production of such depictions by properly regulating them.
Public outcry
>No! You got us wrong! We're against legally restricting anime and manga, we just want to make it socially unacceptable to release such anime and manga. Don't you see the difference?

You are the type of person that politicians and corporations love.

>> No.11856406

>>11850153
holy based

>> No.11856595

No matter how far to the left a party is they will always share two things: free shit(creating a society of entitlement and laziness) and hating White people, because they blame all their problems on Whites when it is (((them))) but the left is too cowardly to call (((them))) out.

>> No.11856653
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11856653

But what would American Communism Vtubers be like
>You don’t need boss, it’s your that needs you
>Capitalists are all Hitler
>It’s you creating the value in the society, not the people in Walk street
I, I’m gonna support this redneck agenda!

>> No.11856725

>>11856255
But in terms of the ones getting ambigious lip service that means nothing in this case its the feminists, in terms of concrete actual policy action nothing changed for the otakus. Not that I care to argue more about this.

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>>11855628
This is basically "video games cause violence" logic again. Seriously, leftists and moralfags can't distinguish between reality and fiction, and therefore by definition insane.

>> No.11857974

Takeshi. Bring out the katana.

>> No.11858027

>>11854672
This.

>> No.11858154

>>11842094
Japan communist party used to be under china's order around 1950-1960 but they act more like Labour Union Party nowaday and already cut ties with china long time ago.

watch this to know better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9Wj7n_MQg

>> No.11858278

>>11850153
always nice when you can tell it's a schizopost from a single glance

>> No.11858979

>>11856255
Just because someone legally endorses something doesn't mean they morally endorse something. Drugs should be legalized but I think people who use them are idiots and excessive usage should be socially decried. And yes depictions of fictional lolis physically harms no one and shouldn't be criminalized but if you lust after fictional lolis you are definitely going to hell as is written in the Christian Bible. Most depictions of lolis are for titillating purposes and are not for narrative or literary purposes like Lolita and Habibi and that Sone manga mentioned. They spread sin in this fallen world and prevent you from seeing the Way of Christ. If you consume it on a frequent basis you are likely going to be a socially harmless repressed sinner, but you are going to burn in hell either way. I always find it ironic the lengths of moral degeneration people will support in an attempt to 'own the lefties'. You do not deny corruption with even worse corruption but you affirm the Sanctity and the Light of the Saviour. In this case the JCP have the right moderate stance and though they will surely burn in hell for their dialectical materialistic approach to reality, for attempting to create heaven on earth, they are not wrong in this instance.

>> No.11859029

>>11857907
I'm genuinely surprised no one is bringing up this point. Is it because the problem involves children?

>> No.11859287

>>11857907
People can distinguish between fiction and reality, but if you use fiction about prepubescents to get off you are still leading a psychologically and morally unhealthy existence and are on the road to eternal damnation. That you can tell fiction from reality, yet you indulge in false fantasies and all these brittle lustful diversions makes it even worse. At the very least a real life pedophile knows what he is, he knows he is going to be socially condemned and the world is shrinking until the sulfur pit opens under him. You think that merely designating it as fiction alleviates the immorality, and though you may hurt no children you are wasting your soul on excess.

>> No.11859326

>>11850153
>identity politics, pozzed media, or feminist shrieking
It's funny how you cunts always reveal yourselves.

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>>11859287
greekchama...

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11859415

>>11841923
GREETINGS COMRADES

>> No.11859593

If feminists and idpol hall monitors stopped pushing for censorship on nerd fictional entertainment maybe they’d get less shit from nerds/otakus.

I, for one, despise moral guardians, be they from the right or the left

>> No.11859854

>>11850153
>Is cool
>Diversity
Yeah no, fuck off you fucking ashkanazi fuck

>> No.11860217

>>11859396
That man is merely being a pervert in the name of Classicism, but he is not wrong about the difference between moral degeneracy of the Ancients versus contemporary Western degenerates. Both sides will be judged, but a Greek erastes who commits his sin in congruence with a Classical order, in line with his view of the cosmos, is different from a repressed pedophile who is merely acting on the basest nihilistic-hedonistic pleasures. Lolicons are even worse because they idealize a form of childhood without wrinkles, without the slobber and the mucus and the puke of real children, where they are nihilistic to the point that they deny even materiality in favour of an unreal smoothness of the senses, and their sin is denied the gravitas of sin, becoming nothing but a hypocrisy laid within a simulation. They reject God, but they also reject man, and so they are the purest cowards with little hope for redemption. Of course, little hope does not mean no hope, and repentance is always possible should one bare oneself to Christ.

>> No.11860274

>>11860217
Oh dear, another fucker that shields his retardation in Christ. I don't even know what I am in religious terms but even I've heard of the "you shall not use the lord's name in vain".

>> No.11860789

>>11860274
This is the line wan atheists always like to use to push for the only valid Christianity being a toothless, 'humble', secular, non-interventive Christianity. Indeed only in God's final judgment will we know which side on the scales our actions lay, but one who feels the true relation and communion with the Holy Spirit is assured of his place in the order of things, and does not succumb to such paltry rhetoric.

>> No.11861126

>>11860789
>one who feels the true relation and communion with the Holy Spirit is assured of his place in the order of things
Also known as "my delusions are stronger than yours". Try actually living in peace with you and your own instead of grandstanding on a mongolian sweatshop forum.

>> No.11862031

>>11861126
Your brittle worldview is obvious from your choice of words. Everything has to be made diminutive and sarcastic, reduced to its most profane particulars. The variations on 'mongolian sweatshop forum' and its associated memes is an example. You must play the observer of the Grand Abyss, self-effacingly making fun of the very place you stand on, the very activity you are indulging in, as proof of your cynical enlightenment. Is that not the sign of one who is not at peace with himself? 'Grandstander' is the exact word used in Eugene O'Neill's The Iceman Cometh to describe that sort of cynic. I admit to grandstanding, but peace is something that you lack, for even my grandstanding is based on an order and a belief in the higher.

>> No.11862249

>>11862031
>based on an order and a belief in the higher
Which you believe yourself an agent of, if your posts are any indication. Don't fall to sin, but don't pretend everyone else is a lamb that has need of (You).

>> No.11862643

>>11844808
At least we are not Flips.

>> No.11862914

Don't reply to the schizo cultist, this thread is already derailed enough as it is.

>> No.11863773

>>11850153
>the removal of all US military bases,
kek, good luck with that

>> No.11863940

>>11859287
>That you can tell fiction from reality, yet you indulge in false fantasies and all these brittle lustful diversions makes it even worse.
>That you can tell you aren't raping a real child makes it even worse
Please explain further.

>> No.11864004

>>11842815
Since some fags keep spamming vtuber there they have to pay /vt/ a visit or two

>> No.11864256

>>11850153
i see the leftist shills are out on full force attacking this post

>> No.11864461

>>11850153
Thank you based anon

>> No.11864480

>actual commie shill thread

>> No.11864745

>>11846484
You faggots would get ripped to shreds if you were actually debating with /pol/tards, don't kid yourself. Only spergs that (rightfully) hate trannies and commies here.

>> No.11864752

>>11852504
>why do we have communist parties at all trying to push in that direction?
Because if you don't keep researching fusion, the reactor is certainly not going to build itself.

That said, most of the so-called communist parties nowadays are just falseflaggots and saboteurs.

>> No.11864912

>>11851453
>increasing diversity via immigration for the sake of diversity
>based
Pick only one. Commies deserve bullets.

>> No.11865033

>>11851453
>Just fuck my country up senpai
The west already tried these policies and they've resulted in nigger ridden hellholes

>> No.11865064
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>>11864912
Fuck Commies

>> No.11865462

>>11860789
shut up you're just an atheist schizo that hates his religious parents

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>>11841923
>strongest opposition
>got only12 seats in parliament
get that cancer out of here

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>>11842840
>>11843039
>>11843055
>>11843317
>>11843635
>>11844069
Jesus fuck. Calm the fuck down you commie niggers.

>> No.11865787

>>11850153
>those points
so basically they just want to tear everything down and burn it in a bonfire.
Just commieshit.

>> No.11865830

>>11842242
>political party
>cool
KYS, brainwashed retard.

>> No.11865862

I can't imagine caring about politics this much. Also I thought this was a vtubers board. Why do you even know this stuff, are you japanese anons

>> No.11866050

>>11859854
I'm afraid it is you who are the fuck, sir.
You have absolutely no reading comprehension whatsoever or you have no idea how this site works.
Either way, please choke on your own cum.

>> No.11866183

After losing an argument commies turn to religious shitposting, pretty funny stuff.

>> No.11866284

>>11850153
>removal of US military bases
If that's not sucking zhang cock, I don't know what is. China would move faster than the Taliban did after a US pull out.

>> No.11866378

>>11865064
>>11865654
>posting image of lefty dyke attacking Xi which JCP hates
?

>> No.11866403

>>11866284
You are delusional if you think China would invade Japan if there were no America bases there
modern world doesn't work like that

>> No.11866417

Why are americans so pathetic, why do they want to larp as commies. What caused such brain damage? Is this what being a mutt feels like? Having no capacity of free thought?
You know you would have been shot or sent to the gulag, do you?
Communism will never work, it's inherently designed to fail.

>> No.11866459

>>11866403
It literally just happened this year. North Korea would obviously invade and take Seoul within a few days after US pull-out, as well.

>> No.11866478

>>11866417
how the fuck the party who's main selling point is freedom of expression, pacifism and gay rights relates to "gulag"?

>> No.11866502

>>11866459
KEK
good one anonchama

>> No.11866535

>>11866502
next you'll say Taiwan would be fine as well. You must be a zhang.

>> No.11866546

>>11866459
North Korea's military is decades behind South Korea's. Yes Seoul is in a danger zone and shit would be bad for them, but North Korea would be decimated if they went back to war.

>> No.11866554

>>11866546
They would get China's backing, just like how Vietnam was overrun.

>> No.11866604

>>11866459
Norh Korea has military stuck in the 70s while Japan and S. Korea are technological giants. Do you think all the S. Korean Samsung tanks would just do nothing in hypothetical invasion?

>> No.11866618

>>11866478
Have you seen the average mutt commie? Pederasty is written all over them, and real commies would send them to the gulag.

>> No.11866649

>>11866604
A chinese missile would blow them to pieces and then south koreans would just surrender and get raped and cannibalized by starving north korean soldiers.

>> No.11866667

>>11866554
China invading South Korea or Japan would never happen. It would be a suicide and they wouldn't get anything worthwhile out of it.
not to mention that S. Korea and Japan still falls under US nuclear umbrella.

>> No.11866686

>>11866618
this thread is about Japanese commies anonchama, don't project

>> No.11866732

>>11866667
China could almost invade them even with usa defending them, they would waste no time if usa were gone.

>> No.11866761

>>11866478
that is the reality of the 20th century, the whole freedom and pacifism only applies to the 'in group' of people who think exactly the same as you.

>> No.11866765

>>11843020
>You listen to Fuwa Fuwa Time and tell me you don't hear the Marxist undertones.
Meds, anon. Never forget to take them.

>> No.11866825

>>11866686
>ignores the mutt commies in the thread
a mutt is another mutts best friend

>> No.11866871

>>11850153
>Make it easier for me to go to japan and creampie little jap women
Based retard commies

>> No.11866946
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reminder that father of anime itself - Osamu Tezuka was a commie and supporter of JCP

>> No.11867053

>>11851463
>but its actually based?
Only when it would be implemented by AI.
With leather bastards it will either turn into authoritarian shithole with closed information ecosystem (it can't sustain itself in different circumstances). Or into neo-feudalism where modern serfs will larp as free people

>> No.11867115

>>11866946
not exactly a surprise that an artist is also a faggot

>> No.11867302
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11867302

Always funny seeing pseuds reee in defense of communism without any basic understanding of how communism works in practice. Ignorance truly is a bliss.
Funny how also no side disagrees that socialism leads to communism.
Kinda fitting thread on /vt/ considering this board is all about having no grasp on reality.

>> No.11867332

>>11843875
JCP issued a clarification on this controversy recently

「As stated in the "7. Women and Gender" section of our policy document, the JCP believes that child pornography is the worst form of "sexual commodification," as well as the worst form of sexual abuse and exploitation of children. Therefore, it must be eliminated from society.

At the same time, as expressed in the "60. Culture" section, we are opposed to any movement to impose legal restrictions on manga and anime under the guise of restricting "child pornography."

The fact that the definition of child pornography has been changed to "depictions of child sexual abuse and sexual exploitation" in the "Women and Gender" policy has led some to believe that we have changed our previous policy on whether the creative expressions in manga and anime should be subject to legal restrictions, but this is not the case.

The Japanese Communist Party (JCP) has proposed that the term "child pornography" be changed to "depictions of child sexual abuse" to more accurately describe the actual damage that takes place (see the minutes of the House of Councillors Committee on Judicial Affairs, June 17, 2014). We proposed this from the perspective that the legal interests protected by the Child Pornography Prohibition Act (enacted in 1999, and amended in 2004 and 2014) are the freedoms and personhood of real children. It was necessary to apply these provisions not on obscenity or subjective factors, but rather on an assessment of the seriousness of the harm to the child.

It does not, then, follow that our "Women and Gender" policy will lead to legal restrictions on creative works. In light of Japan's current position internationally, we call for a broad range of the concerned parties to debate the matter extensively. We hope for society to reach a consensus on not allowing children to become the subject of sexual abuse and exploitation.

We believe that such discussions are important for the creators and lovers of manga, anime, games, etc. in order to protect their freedom of expression against legal restrictions that are promulgated under the guise of "restricting child pornography."」

>> No.11867375

>>11867302
funny how you think that Japanese perception of communism is the same as one in authoritarian shitholes like USSR or China.

>> No.11867603

>>11867375
Does not matter.
Commie pseuds certainly do not care.

>> No.11870568

>>11843336
>>11843415
>>11843483
>>11866946
Reminder that Karl Marx himself coined the term "Commodity Fetishism." If he was alive today, he would have condemned Anime, waifus, idolshit and Otaku culture as the worst manifestation of this.

>>11867332
JCP is backtracking because of the severe backlash. They found out how based Japan feels about leftist ideology and its desire to suppress freedom of expression.

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>>11870568
seething

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>>11870699
Moefaggotry and wee shit (or in Marxist technical terms, Commodity Fetishism) would be banned in the USSR and other Commie countries you faggot.

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>>11870568
tell that to Osamu Tezuka

>> No.11870819

>>11870568
the whole "if they were alive today" is nonsense though, im pretty sure most of the activists of the 20th century would have been extremely satiated with the entertainment of the 21st.

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>>11870786
I think it is already clear that JCP ideology has nothing to do with USSR to anyone who can read

>> No.11870877

>>11851375
>No Democrat would seriously advocate for the removal of US military bases
Biden certainly would.

>> No.11870943

>>11870877
the guy who said he would go to war if China dares to even touch Taiwan?
The guy who is basically said China is biggest threat to US and it's allies? really?
not everything is Afghanistan anonchama

>> No.11871005

>>11870817
So how would Tezuka talk about the issue of "Commodity Fetishism"?

>> No.11871065

>>11871005
>communists made up nonsense is at odds with other communists made up nonsense
big surprise

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>>11871005
I'm not a commie, he was though.
but as far as I understand "commodity fetishism" is much more nuanced thing than what you are implying

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>>11850153
Ah yes, putting incompetent women in powerful positions just to fill out the diversity quota, and importing arabs and niggers surely isn't a recipe to shit up your country.
t. Swede

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>>11841923
There better be R18 art of the girl on Pixiv

>> No.11871368

>>11870786
lmao you can literally just look at a wikipedia page if you want Marx's own description, I don't even need to refer you to a book
Commodity fetishism is the perception of commodities having inherent eslues and interacting with each other as independent ideal objects devoid of the social relationships and material conditions and people making the things. A vtuber t-shirt appears as tshirt that costs $20 like it existed of its own accord, not something that was made by a factory worker, artists design, the people who got the cloth originally, the people shipping it, etc.
Marx was a litfag who quoted Shakespeare, Wagner, Goethe. He would love anime and Vtubers and just criticize the terrible practices of the industry and social relations and explotiation around it, not the existence of the stuff himself, he would love that.

>> No.11871406

>>11871368
inherent values*

>> No.11871536

>>11871368
>Commodity fetishism is the perception of commodities having inherent eslues and interacting with each other as independent ideal objects devoid of the social relationships and material conditions and people making the things.
Literally Waifu culture. The commodities themselves are venerated beyond their initial labour value.

>> No.11872296

>>11866946
>>11870817
Yeah? So what? Michael Jackson liked to cum inside little boys, but that's not not going to stop me from listening to and enjoying Smooth Criminal. Nor do I have any desire to base my political ideology of his.

>> No.11872480

>>11841923
holy based.
I first read this as chinese and was prepared to shit on this heavily, but the japs communists are fucking based as heck.

thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n5YypxPbx4

>> No.11872559

>>11872480
shillchama...

>> No.11872758

What I gathered from the thread.
>JCP was moderate, that made them somewhat liked
>decide to show their true colors little by little
>the autism that is weebs notice and denounce them
I thought nips were sheep by excellence.

>> No.11872986

First, I shit you not on this,but if you don't believe it I would understand.

I know a Filipino-Japanese working in Japan.
Apparently, he works for some Japanese Opposition political party. I forgot. He says its the main opposition party.
Anyways, Japan is practically a one party state at the moment. But he says it's gonna change dramatically in the next few years, as he claims. See, his work is kind of a political consultant. He tells me its his job to spread a political message to the youth, implement a strategy, and the old, through social media. About liberal beliefs. I shit you not. His goal is to make the Japanese actually politically motivated especially the youth.
Apparently, he tells me, Japan's political battle, like most places, is now online.
And he says the opposition, liberal parties, are winning on that front.
The main opposition party has increased their vote share in consecutive elections for some time now, he says.
He says the main party is old and backward and is struggling to keep up.

>> No.11873597

>>11850153
>far left
anon all i see is human rights and accountability.
>making it easier for women to accuse men of rape by broadening the definition of sexual offenses
i mean if what others have said is correct, the japanese police arent great with sexual assault cases basically requiring someone to sexually assault someone to actually do something about.
>wanting to give citizenship to non-Japanese to increase the diversity of Japan
thats probably because the birth-rates in japan is still bad, they need to keep the population up after all and having diversity means people wont fall into the same trappings that got the japanese to not want children.
>increasing the civil and criminal penalties for harassment and promote a "#metoo culture"
#metoo culture rarely works on influencers unless theyve committed a crime and even then it could take a decade for celebs to actually be charged, they just take a year off and come back, the only people complain about cancel culture so much are people who know they could be cancelled for real.

overall anon, youre forgetting this is their general agenda, most of these probably wont go through in their fullest form, remember law making is working through the logistics and finding compromises, and unlike the US whose 2 party system basically means whoever has the most power will get what they want, other countries have better systems.

>> No.11873703

>>11873597
"all I see" then you handpick the least egregious.
If you leftist faggots could at least be honest to yourselves, discussions wouldn't be so circular.

>> No.11873848

>>11873703
im being hyperbolic with "all i see" anon, i would go through all of them but most of them come down to stuff either i dont know enough about to make a statement on. are far too opinion based for the good faith view im going for with explaining them or i agree with them

>> No.11873882

>>11873848(me)
*i agree or disagree with them for easy to see reasons

>> No.11873910

Japanese AND Communist?
Can it get any more based?

>> No.11873933

>>11873848
gibberish, self rationalisation written on a screen and put on the internet.

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>>11873910
Japanese student commies used to be pretty based before they adopted the pacifism meme

>> No.11874017

There's some obvious Nick Fuentes fans itt and they should neck themselves immediately

>> No.11874086

>>11873933
isnt that just what opinions are anyway?

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11874363

I prefer JP right-wing cunny. Why don't weebs learn about Uzaki-chan controversy?? Siding with ultra-feminist is not based they gonna dress your anime waifus in burqas or reduce their breast size without your consent

>> No.11874468

>>11851716
>>Anyone who disagrees with globalhomo by longing to prevent the loss of the world's unique cultures is a racist /pol/tard.
>Try again you knuckle-dragging, air-gulping, cum-gargling faggots.
If spreading accepting LGBT people in your culture means the destruction of your culture, you never had a culture worth preserving in the first place.

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>>11842242
>Japanese Communist Party is cool

>> No.11874778

>>11841923
My dick transcends politics, I want to have sex with the commiechuuba

>> No.11874809

>>11874468
This right here is why people hate faggots. It doesn't even have anything to do with religion anymore.

>> No.11874877

>>11873910
>communist
>based
???

>> No.11874898

>>11874778
The librarian one if design was a bit improved could definitely be fuckable
but I don't think japs are brave enough to do political party ero doujinshi
that is still taboo

>> No.11874936 [DELETED] 

>>11870876
>I think it is already clear that JCP ideology has nothing to do with USSR to anyone who can read
>you can trust what they say
You really fucking learnt NOTHING.
ACTIONS.
Not Words.

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>>11874877
based on my commie cock retard

>> No.11875031

>>11874986
>cock
Too chauvinistic, they are also pacifists so no cocks involved.

>> No.11875051

>>11874708
The fascist party sold Japan piecemeal to the west following the war
You /pol/tards can't even be nationalists correctly

>> No.11875062

>>11874936
what actions? being ruling party in Okinawa ever since WW2 and doing literally nothing controversial?

>> No.11875100

>>11875051
>The fascist party
The Tōhōkai? They were arrested in 1943 and dissolved long before the fall of Japan.

>> No.11875159

bros.. my havana syndrome is kicking in...
ame.... i'm sorry....

>> No.11875213

>>11875100
he probably means LDP because of Nippon Kaigi connection

>> No.11875238

>>11875213
Oh, so he's retarded and knows nothing about Japan, sounds like a Commie.

>> No.11875483

>>11875238
honestly if you associate with Japan Conference you are basically proto-fascist, there is no denying that

>> No.11875512 [DELETED] 

>>11875483
You are basically proto-retard, there is no denying that.

>> No.11875647

>>11875483
They are monarchist, nationalists and conservatives.
We get it.
Stop being triggered.

>> No.11875654

>>11875512
imagine denying Japanese war crimes, visiting Yasukuni and literally thinking emperor is God and that Japanese race is superior.

how is that not form of Japanese fascism? don't be a retard

>> No.11875748

>>11875654
>imagine not believing lying commies, going to a shrine to respect the dead, believing your ancestral religion and loving your own people
What horrible people.
Clearly makes them fascist or whatever your schizo brain is thinking.

>> No.11876216

>>11875647
They were Neoliberals and your grasp of historical materialism is laughable

>> No.11876671

>>11873981
>adopted the pacifism meme
More like were forced into it, because their actions soured elevens into the apparent political distaste they had.
This thread is just an example of them probing the waters now that enough time has passed.

>>11874363
You really think the commie shills care about that?

>> No.11877729

>>11874363
Ultra-feminists aren't commies they're neoliberals
Please read a book sometime

>> No.11878303

>>11877729
Please pay attention to current events too. You're doing the equivalent of "this isn't real communism".

>> No.11878328

where can I learn more about Japanese politics?

>> No.11878467

>>11878303
I am and not just wallowing in my confirmation bias by reading /pol/ threads
You have 0 clue about what's going on in geopolitics let alone national politics
If you actually read books you might have known the difference between an autocracy and communism

>> No.11878712

>>11878467
retardchama...
I know you fancy yourself a commie but no need to see everyone else as the enemy. Oh wait, that's what modern leftists do.
>you know nothing
>you misunderstand, I know everything
>go educate yourself and some day you'll be on my level
Why don't you actually read a book and understand that ideals are stupid without an actual way to implement them?
Also, where the fuck did autocracy come from? Stop throwing unrelated shit just to muddy the waters and make yourself appear smart, pseudointellectualchama.

>> No.11879458

i dont understand
an entire party cant afford to hire someone to create cuter models or even find one of their own willing to do it for free?

>> No.11879787

>>11879458
Call me a schizo but they don't actually want cute models, they just want to be able to say "we are trendy!".

>> No.11879943

>>11846533
stuff like this seems more common in Japan, higher integration.

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