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/#/ - Numbers thread Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:09:40 2021 No.11849378 [Reply] [Original]

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Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:09:58 2021 No.11849392

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:14:50 2021 No.11849559 1.1k waiting for Mumei. Easy 10k with no competitions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:20:10 2021 No.11849732 Ethyria ----------------------- 4 digits zone >Millie 1,500 >Enna 1,155 >Reimu 1,053 ----------------------- 3 digits zone >Nina 980 3 more for Enna and 2 more for Reimu for them to drop down to 3 digits median zone

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:22:10 2021 No.11849778 File: 275 KB, 633x482, Phase Connect Tennma.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tenma is doing way better on Twitch than she ever was on YouTube.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:22:58 2021 No.11849796 File: 76 KB, 841x478, nina.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is this allowed? This is worse than Holostars

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:26:18 2021 No.11849903 >>11849778 I mean she did collab with offlineTV streamers right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:26:37 2021 No.11849911 >>11849796 Remember when Petra was made fun for having low 1k CCV? Those were the days!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:30:28 2021 No.11850044 File: 485 KB, 797x722, 15B2107B-60B3-4EAD-A4D1-3B5E4E7C021F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Current NijiEN stats

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:32:20 2021 No.11850105 >>11849778 Never trust youtube analytics

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:32:42 2021 No.11850122 File: 134 KB, 458x444, 1631681731195.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Selen ended her stream as soon as the overlap mess started.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:35:14 2021 No.11850197 >>11850122 Other than the King and the Sultan there are two Nijis I kneel >Selen >Bora Nun The later even more, she managed to fetch a collab with Towa ,something no NijiEN managed

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:35:42 2021 No.11850209

>>11849796
I’m confused as to why Nina’s doing Jojo. It’s has too many episodes so people will leave over time, and if anyone new wants to join now, they have to watch the VODs instead. So people leaving cannot be replaced. Few VTubers want to do long running anime watchalongs because it’s not sustainable over the long term. Or maybe she just doesn’t care.

All the watchalongs hurt her live viewer average too.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:36:16 2021 No.11850235

>>11850044
Man. Unless one of them is your oshi and you are insanely dedicated why would you ever clip them? Where is the expansion of their fanbase going to come from? Popular songs/covers? Clippers? Collabs with JP? Out of Niji collabs? Foreign fanbases? Trying to steal from vshojo/HoloEN (lol no). I’m not sure what their path forward is.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:38:32 2021 No.11850294

>>11850209
She's a Jojofag. Appealing to other Jojofags I guess, though if she were a Jojofag I would assume that she has either read the manga or finished the anime already which makes her watchalongs absolutely pointless
>>11850122
Selen is secretly a numberfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:43:49 2021 No.11850446 https://youtu.be/U1rjXJWbwkI https://youtu.be/76ugj3EH79s Tenma collabing with offlineTV streamers. Hopefully PC incline.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:44:31 2021 No.11850461 >>11850446 I would feel bad if PC overtook NijiEN's lower end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:46:06 2021 No.11850503 >>11850461 If they start doing twitch i think its possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:46:07 2021 No.11850506 File: 187 KB, 453x1200, 346545.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11850235 Here's Holodex clip stats for NijiEN

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:46:33 2021 No.11850526 >>11850461 The drama when NijiEN drops to 4th place tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:48:53 2021 No.11850612 >>11850526 PCfags seem more chill than nijifags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:49:03 2021 No.11850621 >>11850503 It's possible, as numbers beget numbers, and we KNOW youtube is fudging numbers. If they can snag some momentum and more people watch, and also escape the algo black hole that is Hololive at the same time, then they should go for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:50:11 2021 No.11850653 why don't nijien stream on twitch? they can't compete with holoen on youtube but they can compete with vshojo on twitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:50:16 2021 No.11850657 >>11850526 theyre not too far of, it seems>>11849778

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:50:18 2021 No.11850659

>>11850506
>Nina the most amount of clips
Of course. Though it really doesn't look good if you put it like this.
>>11850526
They were never a solid third, I'll never understand why people think that they're in a good position when they're pretty much equivalents to small startups

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:52:42 2021 No.11850741 >>11850612 Lots are both. I feel outnumbered being a Holofag while also being a PCfag.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 00:57:12 2021 No.11850921

>>11849778
Almost all western vtubers who made the transition have done way better on Twitch, even 2views.

Freya Hoshino when she inherited the Runa Key model, was streaming to 7-8 viewers on YouTube, moved to Twitch and instantly got 50 viewers.

The only counter example i can think of is NuxTaku, who had over 5k viewers on YT, but moved to Twitch to ~1k viewers, because the very low archive views streams get were messing up his analytics, reducing ad revenue and discoverability on his edited videos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:00:52 2021 No.11851053 >>11847636 >VS mogging holo Since it hasn't happened for over a year now, have you filled the dam yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:03:05 2021 No.11851141 >>11851053 wait until amouranth joins vshojo

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:03:14 2021 No.11851147 >>11851053 >Vshojo Just desperate tribalfags using everything at their disposal in an attempt to shit on Holos since Nijis don't work anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:04:08 2021 No.11851176 File: 1.78 MB, 4096x2730, 1619711728306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It just opened and Hololive merch in collab with Donquixote already sold out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:04:15 2021 No.11851181 File: 194 KB, 1111x828, 1634930452383.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11851053 Are you sure? Nyanners and Ironmouse mog everyone who isn't Gura or Kronii now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:05:29 2021 No.11851236 File: 377 KB, 2048x1536, FCWHGfhVUAMX34r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11851176 look at the queue...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:05:42 2021 No.11851246 Kson talks about her income last month. ¥15M yen last month now we have some sort of measuring stick on how huge top vtuber earns. https://youtu.be/L3mgB08_pHk

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:06:38 2021 No.11851271 >>11851176 Ridiculous. >>11851181 >mog >Twitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:06:46 2021 No.11851276 File: 607 KB, 1536x2048, FCWGruaUYAQ_QFn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11851236 https://twitter.com/ALIVE160402/status/1451714547526422532/photo/1

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:08:02 2021 No.11851326

>>11851176
Why do people never meet demand? I know it's good to never overdo it but things shouldn't sell out in 5 minutes. The store opened literally 8 minutes ago.

Also the ones that are sold out are weird, Aqua should sell out before Luna unless they made too many Aquas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:10:49 2021 No.11851419 >>11851326 In small enough timeframes like that it all depends on who turned up first, could just be simply Luna fans got there before Aqua fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:12:15 2021 No.11851467 >>11851181 >willingly includes Mori stream from 2 days ago >excludes 15k Bae and 10k Fauna yesterday Don't use holostat for your shitposting, that's pitiful. ran out of material?

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:13:17 2021 No.11851504

>>11851147
To be fair, I called out a long time ago the possibility that VShojo could become competition in terms of Western VTuber numbers. I explained the rationale about the talent loss of some other companies. I haven’t said much about it since then though, but I’m not surprised if others too think they could become competition, at least someday.

I’m still interested in who they may have picked from the auditions too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:13:18 2021 No.11851508 File: 756 KB, 1536x2048, FCWGVlXVUAUMdyo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11851326 well they apparently only sells this much on one of the stores, idk why they do this desu... https://twitter.com/RaiseSuiren/status/1451714169867169794

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:13:36 2021 No.11851522 File: 358 KB, 726x469, 84613.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11851181 >narrative

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:15:49 2021 No.11851596 >>11851508 They spread the stock too thin between all their stores then. They might be understestimate the demand really bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:15:52 2021 No.11851599 >>11851276 Would it be the same if they open one in California/New York?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:16:54 2021 No.11851632 >>11851508 That's nothing, holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:17:07 2021 No.11851646 >>11850659 Mostly because of the collabs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFAc8s00GSY As much as people complain that she stands out and "will ruin the collabs", she does stand out, while the other 3 overlap too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:18:08 2021 No.11851681 >>11851467 >15k Bae That was a collab with three people. >10k Fauna Beating the Ender Dragon in a MC speedrun is a pretty special occasion. Nyanners and Ironmouse pull 10k+ regularly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:18:24 2021 No.11851697 >>11851646 Funny enough, Nina is the only one that wasn't a nepotism hire. Reimu is Petra's friend Millie/Enna is Elira/Pomu's friend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:20:10 2021 No.11851755 >>11851697 And people complained about Sana being Ina's friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:21:59 2021 No.11851816 >>11851697 Wave 4 will have a bilibili streamer.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:22:54 2021 No.11851843

>>11851681
If Fauna would have promoted hers I'm sure it would have gotten 15k+ at least.
Instead she took long breaks from this series, doing the last Minecraft speedrun practice 2 weeks ago and titling this one the same. No one was probably expecting it to go the distance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:26:20 2021 No.11851949 >>11851596 >>11851632 Is Cover imposter syndrome: the company? They still don't believe they're on top. It's good to stay humble but Jesus, they must have data on past merch sales to know they'd need more than that. What a waste of potential revenue

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:27:07 2021 No.11851980 >>11851816 Wave 2 literally already has a Bilibili streamer. Petra.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:29:32 2021 No.11852061 >>11851508 They underestimated how much people wanted those dolls

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:31:29 2021 No.11852133 >>11852061 They're so terrified of having to eat a loss on unsold merch. Small-company mentality, they need to grow up

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:31:55 2021 No.11852149 >>11852061 Oh shit, i didn't even notice them due to the plastic glare. They had Suisei and Towa dolls even. That Korone one is really cute, I'd want one too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:34:24 2021 No.11852241 >>11851949 Either Cover underestimated demand or Don Quijote underestimated the demand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:35:08 2021 No.11852270 >>11852133 Ever heard of JIT or lean manufacturing? yeah JP companies love not having losses more than getting bigger profits. Means you are getting more efficient.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:36:10 2021 No.11852319 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6-Jjovz-o First original song coming from a NijiEN vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:36:26 2021 No.11852331 >>11852270 Lean manufacturing is great but only if it's informed by good data. Look at that line vs. that pile of dolls

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:37:22 2021 No.11852369 File: 156 KB, 749x1043, hate.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11851508 Biggest benefactors out of this trade:

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:37:49 2021 No.11852391 >>11852331 Scarcity is actually great for marketing, They generate more buzz on the next production run.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:41:36 2021 No.11852534 >>11852319 Composed by a guy with 901 youtube subs who has worked with Lyrica before and lately has been making orchestrated versions of holo originals for practice. kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:44:16 2021 No.11852644 >>11852534 Low budget from small startup company pleazu andatastando

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:46:57 2021 No.11852755 >>11852644 eh its fine, I'm just amused. Better to get songs out there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:47:20 2021 No.11852772 >>11852534 I've listened to his orchestration of Moona's song. It's school-project quality, sorry to say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyGA0LMxK5U

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:47:31 2021 No.11852782 >>11852369 Yea, scalping unsurprisingly gonna be prominent with such low stock. Good grief, I do hope they're going to do another run of these with a larger batch.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:49:44 2021 No.11852866
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>>11851181
Mori was doing a zatsudan while overlapping with other 3 members
Gura playing RE with 19k viewers
Kronii MC w/ 16k
Bae Creepypasta w/ 6k

Mori's usual CCV for this is between 6k to 8k and sometimes higher with help of her massive tits

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:50:48 2021 No.11852894 >>11852782 Apparently if this went well they were going to do a normal online sold run.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:52:22 2021 No.11852952 >>11852369 what's the original price?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:52:28 2021 No.11852957 >>11852772 Why does it sounds like the instrument is peaking the mic so much. I swear it feels like there's some sort of static noise as well. >>11852894 Source? I hope overseas can buy it too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:53:05 2021 No.11852986 >>11852894 Based from the anons here, and in likelihood >Limited stock for physical stores >If successful, proceed to mass production >Sell online

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:53:36 2021 No.11853005 >>11852952 >>11851176 Your reading reps anon! Says right there, 3278 yen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:54:20 2021 No.11853045 >>11852952 2,980 yen each, ~$26.26 before tax.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:55:04 2021 No.11853074 >>11852369 Those are cute as fuck but $100 bucks?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:55:09 2021 No.11853077 >>11851949 >Cover This one is on Donquixote. And we know that this collab has been in work for a year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:55:31 2021 No.11853091 >>11852391 Sure but not to this extent. This is too low.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:55:44 2021 No.11853103 >>11852957 https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1451724499003445256

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:56:12 2021 No.11853121 >>11851276 2 hours of queue and still not near to get the merch...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:57:26 2021 No.11853182 >>11852369 sasuga...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:57:51 2021 No.11853198 >>11852755 Yeah. I don't really think it is a bad move at all as long as costs are low. It's better to have something than not have anything to showcase your skills. Songs beef up channels and NijiEN has been sorely lacking in covers and songs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:58:17 2021 No.11853220 >>11853074 I hate scalpers with all of my soul. If only fans were reasonable enough to resist and realize that they'll be a lot less prominent if there's no demand for overpriced reselling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:59:24 2021 No.11853258 File: 152 KB, 497x1024, FCWUGvLUcAMeoNS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I apologize, they massively underestimated this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 01:59:41 2021 No.11853269 >>11852534 >>11852772 Why, literally why they have a piano/orchesrtra mixer in Nijisanji, Genzuki, who livers have to beg to pay him well since he's always turning extra money down. He's done over 40 songs for nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:00:43 2021 No.11853314 >>11852319 pls don't tell me she's paying it from her own pocket...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:01:00 2021 No.11853325 >>11853103 >>11853258 Yeah, they're definitely doing online ordering next. They're probably thinking right now "Holy shit this is a money maker"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:01:37 2021 No.11853356 >>11853258 Fucking picked clean. Not surprised but jeez... Yea, I hope Donquixote is fast-tracking their production RIGHT NOW because they severely underestimated demand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:01:48 2021 No.11853362 >>11853314 Okay anon, I won't

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:02:16 2021 No.11853381 >>11853269 Is lyrica neopotism in this case

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:02:28 2021 No.11853387 >>11853103 >don't buy from scalpers, there will be more guys! >>11853314 What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:03:47 2021 No.11853457 >>11853362 >>11853387 And people shit on Holos for paying on their own for orisongs and covers. Turns out there's hardly any difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:03:54 2021 No.11853463 >>11853045 f-fuck...

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:05:33 2021 No.11853524

>>11853356
It’s actually the perfect price point. Cute plushie, 20-30 bucks is a little pricey for that quality but not insane for branded merch and it’s way more accessible than even a full bday package or a $800 Marine sculpt. It also hides your power level well it’s just a cute doll, not a daki or wall scroll. Somewhere a factory manager is trying to figure out how to reopen a production line ASAP

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:05:46 2021 No.11853531

>>11853457
People shit on it because it makes the talent take a huge risk. The saving grace is the reward is bigger. Niji talents can get record deals easily but record deals fuck you in the ass. Both have merits, the latter has way more merit if you don't have 30k to spend.

It's one of those things that only works for Cover, pls understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:06:14 2021 No.11853548 >>11853457 People do that because they don't know how Nijisanji works. Nijis pay for their song production/mixer

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:06:21 2021 No.11853552 >>11853103 are they selling these online or you need to actually go to the store and wait who knows how many hours to buy my cute korone doll? I mean if there isn't online deliver I can understand why scalpers are still a thing in jp

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:06:25 2021 No.11853553 File: 2.12 MB, 1117x1319, 4543.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Unfortunate for people that lineup for long hours

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:08:54 2021 No.11853646

>>11853552
There's going to be online orders, but the initial release was limited in-store.
Unsurprising to anyone who knows how fast Holo merch that's limited sells out, these sold out in a flash. They're at a price point and of sufficient cuteness that oh my lord why wouldn't you buy the whole set?!
So yea, oops. As Flare said, please wait for online orders to go up and don't buy from scalpers.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:10:04 2021 No.11853700

>>11851246
let's say she earned that before taxes, after YT cut and strictly confined to September earnings. She got $82,394 according to playboard which means $57,675.8 after YT cut. ¥15M is roughly around $130k, which means she earned $72,324.2 in other shit. What are those other shit tho?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:10:17 2021 No.11853716 File: 609 KB, 2048x1536, 1634954988654.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/another_nktn/status/1451722335875072004 Well at least fans can get it, not just scalpers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:10:39 2021 No.11853731 >>11853269 Would he have done it for a newbie foreign branch? I imagine he's busy. I'm having a hard time digging up a list so I could be way off the mark.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:11:06 2021 No.11853751 >>11853269 nijien getting something from genzuki? Seriously?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:11:12 2021 No.11853760 >>11853553 Those end caps are freaking tiny. I wonder if the people in line even realized how little stock there was. Did they have every Holo? Mel is on the header. If you are a fan of one of the less popular Holos this is a rare opportunity

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:11:23 2021 No.11853767 >>11853716 Those dolls are cute, honestly I would have bought as many uniques as I could have if they were near me

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:12:13 2021 No.11853810 >>11853700 Ads. Premium. Members. Residuals from Hololive maybe? Sponsorships?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:12:22 2021 No.11853821 >>11853716 Some scalpers are probably disappointed nousagi or ichimi who didn't want to leave empty handed but don't actually want the Akirose doll they picked up.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:12:24 2021 No.11853822

>>11851176
jesas, that's what i call a successful collab, but they really underestimated Hololive's popularity (actually I did too if it's being sold out in don quixote stores everywhere in Japan. Clearly Hololive is catching up to, if not already already is comparable to niji domestically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:13:03 2021 No.11853849 >>11853457 It's just people who don't know how it works and just want to shit on Cover. Which sadly most people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:13:07 2021 No.11853852 >>11853810 Holy shit, imagine if Kson gets residuals from Coco ad impressions and such. Would make sense I guess. Being a Holo is a lottery ticket

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:13:17 2021 No.11853859 >>11853760 All of HoloJP based on this >>11851176, though buttons and acrylic stands limited to just the 4 for the song (Marine, Noel, Shion, Mel)

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:14:07 2021 No.11853903

>>11853700
All of her merch and big boost in SC due to her re-debut came in October but, considering monetization ended on her previous channel on Oct 1st, very likely Cover still payed her memberships out so she got double income from those.

Also, i wouldn't be surprised if she already owns a lot of stocks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:14:24 2021 No.11853912 >>11853760 Looks like it. Aki is there as well https://twitter.com/supergori/status/1451704287336165377/photo/1 src: #ドン・キホーテ

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:15:01 2021 No.11853929 >>11853524 The year production cycle most likely factored in mass production in case it sold well. >>11853457 There never has been. A lot of them just assume every Nijisanji talent is signed to a record label.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:15:06 2021 No.11853933 >>11853700 The fact that Kson makes less than half of her income from SC even being the SC monster she isn’t totally shocking. But her ccv and views are pretty weak compared to her SC. Someone like Mori or Gura…. Jesus.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:15:29 2021 No.11853950 >>11851246 >dream big, vtubers pls don't give the 2views hope, we are talking about 1st/2nd most sc chuuba here

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:16:15 2021 No.11853983 >>11853700 Mildom's superchat equivalent, memberships on both sites (she has the highest number of memberships of any channel over on Mildom), Intel sponsorship. Possibly something else.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:16:20 2021 No.11853986

>>11853822
>Clearly Hololive is catching up to, if not already already is comparable to niji domestically.
I feel like Niji being ahead in JP has been a bit of a joke since 2021. 2019/2020? Yeah maybe. 2021? Hololive seems like the obvious dominant party in every market.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:17:27 2021 No.11854041

>>11853912
People are dumping on Aki and Choco but if you are truly a fan of theirs you might not get many chances to get cute merch like this very often while Pekora or Marine get them constantly. I suspect that’s why the prices are pretty close compared to the signed cards

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:17:55 2021 No.11854059 >>11853986 Hololive mostly suffers from not being able to pump out merch like Nijisanji. They also can't fully capitalize on their foreign market because of how bad shipping is right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:18:19 2021 No.11854076 >>11853951 that Towa one is the cutest. God I wish I was in Japan.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:18:40 2021 No.11854089

>>11853810
>>11853903
True, forgot about her intel sponsorship. That would have been a lot.
Didn't think about her ad revenue because i thought video views weren't much, but 4.4 million for September ain't bad.
Almost 10 million for August if she was talking about September income for August.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:18:42 2021 No.11854093 >>11853986 Niji are still ahead since they get China fearing sponsorships, are more popular in the 10-30 range, and they meet demand for merch. Pound for pound a hololiver is much more profitable but volume is what contributes to totals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:19:14 2021 No.11854117 >>11853951 Where is this picture from? And how good are his locks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:19:24 2021 No.11854127 >>11853810 >>11854089 She doesn't run ads on her channel because she finds them annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:20:28 2021 No.11854163 >>11854076 I'm glad I'm not, those dolls are fucking cute and I would have tried to camp out for them and probably not got any anyway. Thanks for sparing me the frustration with your inability to do international merch, Cover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:20:48 2021 No.11854178 >>11853951 poor Azki

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:20:51 2021 No.11854184 >>11852782 >Good grief, I do hope they're going to do another run of these with a larger batch. They'd have to. Otherwise they're just leaving money on the table. That being said it is a Japanese company

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:21:08 2021 No.11854195 >>11853700 Am I really simping for millionaires? I thought hololive was the plucky underdog.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:21:09 2021 No.11854197

>>11854093
Eh...That gaps shrinks as Cover picks up more deals like this, where they can make up their shortcomings in merch production by partnering with 3rd parties who have the capability. Also, China is a dead-end longterm. You end up with your IP plundered, and you're left but naught but the dust of broken promises and a knife in the back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:21:16 2021 No.11854205 >>11853912 So smaller stores just got one stand with a single doll of each of the members holy fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:21:17 2021 No.11854207 >>11853951 Oh god. The tiny three stripes on that Botan. These things are adorable. Wonder what the talents cut is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:21:25 2021 No.11854216 >>11854059 the only reason why I'm not buying birthday/special sets from the holos I like it is cause it takes forever to come, I understand the chink flu is still a thing but if they could solve it somehow I would buy their merch without a doubt

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:22:19 2021 No.11854236 >>11853951 Why is Watame's head so fucking big hahaha

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:22:20 2021 No.11854239 >>11854205 Like, literally one Pekora, one Marine etc? There’s no way they didn’t realize that wasn’t going to fly

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:22:26 2021 No.11854247 >>11853951 what a chad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:22:46 2021 No.11854257 >>11854127 Well shit, That leaves premium viewers and Mildom's revenue, where i remember she had an exclusive deal, gets donations and is among the most viewed members.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:23:47 2021 No.11854302 >>11853951 If foreigners can buy them I can already see myself buying at least 1 per gen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:24:01 2021 No.11854311 >>11853951 Heh. That’s around $4000 dollars worth of plushies based on the scalpers prices posted earlier.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:25:00 2021 No.11854356

>>11854197
>That gaps shrinks as Cover picks up more deals like this,
Only if they don't botch it, which is likely they will. They never have met demand once.
>China is a dead-end longterm
Still good for now and as long as companies kneel to China then Nijisanji is more attractive.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:25:04 2021 No.11854360

>>11854178
>Azki
Oh shoot, you're right there's no AZKi.
Now to be fair, they likely didn't include her in the initial production because this shit's been in the works for a while, and she didn't formalize that she was going to stick around until earlier this year. Remember, AZKi was set to graduate in 2022 with the conclusion of her contract, but Cover realized they didn't really need to do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:25:22 2021 No.11854373 >>11854302 Not mine its from twitter

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:25:39 2021 No.11854385 >>11854311 $30 official price, $100 from scalpers

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:25:41 2021 No.11854387 >>11854216 I know, its hell. I'm still waiting for my Towa anni merch from her bandlive all the way from April.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:25:42 2021 No.11854388 >>11854195 as far as companies go, Hololive is small. As far as individual streamers? Hololive talents are some of the top streamers in the world (not THE top). This financial stability enables them to take risks on streaming and other projects.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:26:21 2021 No.11854408 >>11854127 Based kson

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:26:37 2021 No.11854419 >>11854195 I think it's fun to guess who's a millionaire in Hololive. I think some are easy: Gura, Pekora, Mori? Almost definitely, right?

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:27:10 2021 No.11854448

>>11854195
The top tier in Hololive earns between 500k and 1 million a year. Rushia said she isn't a millionaire but I think she was playing it down a bit because between all her revenue sources there's no way she's gotten less than 700k in the pocket in 2021

Almost all members in Hololive would earn over 100k a year I'd think, even the small channels like Aki Rose, Mel and Roboco. Perspectives are kind of warped but getting 50k views on every single VOD is pretty good by Youtube creator standards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:27:15 2021 No.11854454 >>11854419 Rushia has a mountain of members on top of her SCs.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:27:40 2021 No.11854479

>>11854216
The flue did way worse for the supply chain. These things used to be shipped in those massive container sips, but prices per ton moved have risen 8-20 times, depending on the product and continue to rise.
Even Cover is looking to straight up produce the merch overseas to make them easier to obtain and reduce costs.

>>11854236
wdym? Watame's head is always big.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:29:00 2021 No.11854530 15k now on Mumei MC stream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:29:14 2021 No.11854544 >>11854419 Aqua, she's the poster girl for sponsorships. She's gotta be a millionaire by now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:29:30 2021 No.11854556 >>11854419 The names you've mentioned make me think you think sub count automatically translates into higher earnings which isn't necessarily true. Flare earns more than Pekora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:30:11 2021 No.11854581 >>11854479 I just mean in comparison to the other dolls. Watame's head is markedly larger than the others, only one close is Towa because of Bibi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:30:28 2021 No.11854589 >>11854556 The big hitters gets more sponsorships and more merch than the other talents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:30:43 2021 No.11854601 >>11854388 Most of the top streamers aren't splitting the revenue with a company

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:30:45 2021 No.11854603 >>11854448 Well one merch run for Watame was enough to fund an entire album with high quality MVs and a concert. I think it was estimated at 600k in merch before cuts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:31:07 2021 No.11854615 >>11854556 Flare makes more SC. You are insane if you think Pekora makes less overall

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:31:36 2021 No.11854629 >>11854556 ?? Flare earning more than pekora? On what basis?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:32:06 2021 No.11854656 >>11854419 The harder one to guess is someone like Suisei who doesn't get that much SC but get ton of views for her songs and made an absolute killing for her CD album.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:32:34 2021 No.11854674 >>11854629 SC, but that's with Pekora stopping full-sc readings after her on-stream breakdown earlier this year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:32:35 2021 No.11854675 >>11854629 More dedicated fans. Flare cult isn't a meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:33:40 2021 No.11854735 >>11854615 Not really true on SC as well. Total SC (Jan-Sep) Usada Pekora - $693,832 Shiranui Flare - $414,482

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:34:43 2021 No.11854789 >>11854674 >>11854675 The rabbit still earns more this year in SC though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:35:20 2021 No.11854815 >>11854789 Oh, then I don't know what the FUCK that anon is saying with Flare outearning Pekora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:36:39 2021 No.11854883 That reminds me, still no word at all about the Sanrio collab. Seeing how this took a year, I'm guessing not until next year?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:36:39 2021 No.11854882 Baelz CCV for her membership stream >>11854770

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:37:06 2021 No.11854901 >>11854419 Probably none of them since they have to share the money with Cover

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:38:00 2021 No.11854953

>>11854544
>>11854556
As >>11854589 Said, big hitters get more sponsors and Pekora is 2nd or 3rd for last year, adter Aqua and possibly Botan, but ahead of FBK and Subaru.
A few months back people were quoting Polka that she made enough to never worry about money from sponsorships, when all she had was that Disgaea collab, so there's a lot of money to be had from that.

Pekora also still gets more in SC and way more in vod views. Plus she spends next to nothing on living expense besides replacing her PC this year.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:39:45 2021 No.11855031

>>11854901
No way, even with Cover and Youtube cuts the heavy hitters are making tons.
1. Ad revenue
2. Sponsorships
3. Supers
4. Merch
5. Song sales
6. Concert tickets
7. Etc.
I'd be shocked, totally shocked, if the top tier of Holos aren't millionaires. Not even just the top 3, probably the top 10 or so.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:39:49 2021 No.11855036

>>11854882
A bit low, but gotta remember her memberships probably spread out between this time and JP/AUS hours.
>>11854901
The truth is, we don't know because between adrev, memberships, and sponsorship numbers not being publicly available, we have no idea how much they actually earn and can only do very rough napkin estimates. The only thing we KNOW for sure are the SC amounts they get after cuts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:40:41 2021 No.11855080 >>11854883 Considering that Donquixote collab took a year maybe they need time to produce the merch first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:41:19 2021 No.11855119 >>11854953 >tfw your hikki millionaire daughter won't even pay the electric bill

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:41:48 2021 No.11855142 >>11854953 >Pekora also still gets more in SC and way more in vod views. Plus she spends next to nothing on living expense besides replacing her PC this year. She doesn't even pay her parents rent which is pretty scummy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:42:56 2021 No.11855193 >>11855036 No we don’t. There’s evidence the contracts aren’t uniform and we have only vague statements, not numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:43:34 2021 No.11855221 >>11855119 >>11855142 Hey, if they didn't ask for it? Plus, she's moving out soon and if we're to believe the rrats, Pekora's family is pretty well off already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:44:16 2021 No.11855257 >>11855142 Personal life might be an interesting factor of how each holomem performs but hard for us to estimate. Living alone or with family might be a big factor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:44:31 2021 No.11855271 >>11855221 If my autistic shut-in daughter became a millionaire streaming, I'd just be happy she was gonna make it. I don't think it's that weird she doesn't pay rent, especially if her parents do fine on their own

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:44:45 2021 No.11855280 >>11855080 It's likely more of a design than production that took time. 31 variants

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:45:09 2021 No.11855302 >>11854953 Polka used to be #2 at Upd8 from what I recall, after Kizuna Ai.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:45:36 2021 No.11855327 >>11853751 Ryushen and Hoshikawa did stuff for them why not

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:45:48 2021 No.11855332 >>11855221 >Hey, if they didn't ask for it? If you believe Pekora they didn't even know she was streaming until this year. Though that stretches credibility I think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:47:04 2021 No.11855384 >>11855271 I make $92.5k a year and I don't pay rent. I'd give my parents money if they asked and they turned down my offer of splitting bills. >>11855302 She was made before she was in hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:47:52 2021 No.11855422 I don't understand why people acts like company cut is not a thing and Cover is the one who invented it. It is industry standard. Cover does it, Anykara does it, Sony does it, Microsoft does it, Nintendo does it, Valve does it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:48:19 2021 No.11855441 >>11854953 Pekora seems to have a bad relationship with her parents. They live in the same house but communicate through texting, thats some creepy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:49:46 2021 No.11855517 >>11855422 It's worse that people forget most "idol" companies pay their employees either a single salary or a flat bonus for their work. Better cases have a ~10% yearly cut.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:51:09 2021 No.11855593 >>11855441 Stop spreading rrat in numbers thread retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:51:12 2021 No.11855601 >>11855142 Why would they even charge rent lol? Do you know how collectivist society works? Lots of Asians live with their family all the time and they don't need to pay rent. Maybe the bills, but not rent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:51:43 2021 No.11855619 >>11855517 Idol companies are the scummiest. Most idols barely make ends meet unless they're in the main AKB48 group or a similar tier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:51:57 2021 No.11855634 >>11855601 Some people can't imagine their parents actually caring for them selflessly. I feel bad for those people.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:52:29 2021 No.11855648

>>11855441
do you really not understand how neets work? Hell, even teenagers do that.
Pekora stayed in her room to play games, stream and scream at the computer for years, of course they leave her alone.
Even as a clip watcher you'd see she's on really good terms with them. Her mom watches streams and brings stuff she needs to her room.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiShkfURGYI

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:52:40 2021 No.11855659 >>11854656 she also get ton of sponsored stuffs

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:53:02 2021 No.11855678 >>11855441 Meds, fat faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:53:36 2021 No.11855710 >>11855648 Her mom being a big fan of hers is pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:54:20 2021 No.11855748 >>11855601 It's the westerners who kick out their children before they're even ready to be an adult that's weird lol.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:55:38 2021 No.11855827

>>11855648
>Even as a clip watcher you'd see she's on really good terms with them. Her mom watches streams and brings stuff she needs to her room.
Nah it's clear her Mom wants a normal relationship but if Pekora actually cared about her mother she'd go outside her room and actually talk to her. Pekora isn't a Hikki NEET she's been going out doing live 3ds and dancing training for years now there's really no excuse for the kind of autism she has with actually communicating with her own parents.

And communicating with texts with people who are in the same house as you is weird as fuck no matter how you split it. Nobody does that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:56:01 2021 No.11855841 >>11855659 Oh yeah, she announced a collab with Converse (the shoe brand) at the end of her concert.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:56:05 2021 No.11855845 >>11855748 This is changing in the USA at least, with our ridiculous housing prices and rents these days. Multi-generational homes are an obvious response to that kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:57:05 2021 No.11855893 >>11855841 God damn it I want the suishoes, how much am I going to have to pay as a filthy gaijin American?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:57:19 2021 No.11855900 Socialblade highest estimation the revenue from views for Kson is 19.7k. So she is still making big chunk of money just by views without supas. So can we assume those vod monsters in holo can live without supas just by views alone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:57:23 2021 No.11855909 >>11855517 Anons here belive that 50/50 splits exist

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:57:54 2021 No.11855931 >>11855827 Pekora is my oshi but i do feel bad for her mother. She would watch streams and buy something pekora said she wanted just to have an interaction with her daughter.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:58:01 2021 No.11855934

Do people not know how much money is in sponsorships? Even people who had earned 2M+ in that twitch leak say that its nothing in comparison to sponsorships. I don't know how it is in Japan, but if Pekora was a western streamer with her audience size that Judgment playthrough alone would have been a 500k-1M payout at least. Mid to high 5 figure payouts for an hour or two of streamed content by creators with less than half Peko's size are common.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:58:12 2021 No.11855939 Since you guys are talking about income, here is a clip of Matsuri talking about income of vtubers. I can't find an English one though. https://youtu.be/XtFv6_UcHwk

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:58:15 2021 No.11855943 >>11855827 Rrat time. Pekora only cares about her mother in the context of more numbers. She's truly the numberfag queen. Sasuga Pekora!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:58:29 2021 No.11855953 >>11853077 why is this a recurring trend? Cover partner with someone and the partner's goods are always short in supply. same thing happened to Aqua's Nissin concert. there were so many fans that they "ddosed" their severs

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:59:12 2021 No.11855989 >>11855909 True, people here don't even know VAT exist, much less that even the 30-35-35 split is a simplification.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 02:59:55 2021 No.11856015 >>11855841 That's a strange collab.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:00:24 2021 No.11856037 Mumei at 17k. The CCV just keeps growing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:00:40 2021 No.11856048 >>11855943 Imagine if this is true. Only a true scumbag would think or act like that

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:01:50 2021 No.11856113

>>11855934
I'm pretty sure people knew, because that's why vtubers were still considered small fry for a long time compared to the big Twitch and Youtubers, especially Hololive, despite dominating in SC.
That's why tribalists kept flaunting Nijisanji's sponsorships till Holos started getting more regular sponsors in mid 2021.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:02:28 2021 No.11856141 >>11855900 She doesn't run ads in the first place though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:03:02 2021 No.11856165 >>11855953 Japan is extremely fucking slow to identify and take advantage of trends despite their reputation as technological innovators. Look at Niji jumping on the EN train almost a year after HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:03:30 2021 No.11856185 >>11855943 lol If she did, she'd actually let her come on stream instead of sheltering her and avoiding the discussion for months, when we found out later Pekomama took a big interest in Pekora's streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:04:00 2021 No.11856210 https://youtu.be/0p7P9XRoeEo song is doing pretty well number-wise

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:04:38 2021 No.11856239 >>11856185 Its even worse then? Not even bif numbers would make Pekora have interest in having interaction with her mother

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:05:24 2021 No.11856268 >>11856210 I hate how catchy the theme is in general. I can see why it gets used a lot in anime/games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:05:48 2021 No.11856288 Stop replying to morons speculating about Pekora's relationship with her mom in the Numbers thread of all places

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:05:52 2021 No.11856292 >>11856185 Pekora's smart enough to know that oversaturation of pekomama would only hurt her in the long term. It'd make Pekora less of the attraction of her streams and make the appearance of mama less of a buff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:05:56 2021 No.11856294 >>11856141 How do you check that? I thought youtube will force inserting ads so we can't tell if the channel is running ads or not by the owner.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:06:13 2021 No.11856298 >>11856037 No overlap and the last holoEN stream was 23 hours ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:06:15 2021 No.11856301 Is it really worth it to have a few hundred sweaty faggots at your store if they only buy holo merch? Isn't the idea to have them come into the store and buy some more things?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:06:51 2021 No.11856327 >>11856288 Does anyone have that "vt gossip girlfriends" reaction images? Wanted to give the troll one last (you)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:06:58 2021 No.11856330 >>11856298 Given the same circumstances, Kiara won't get this number.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:08:11 2021 No.11856377 >>11856301 Yes. Any other stupid questions?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:08:34 2021 No.11856390 File: 369 KB, 1080x1063, 1632696430250.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11856327 This image ages better and better by the day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:08:46 2021 No.11856398 >>11856301 the point is to get people in the door, some of them will buy other stuff too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:09:08 2021 No.11856415 >>11856298 The cap is around 40k ccv total in this time for holoEN, wish she can reach 20k alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:09:37 2021 No.11856440 okayu's LINE stamp is doing pretty well, it's currently rank #1 on japan https://twitter.com/reimarisin/status/1451745671548063746

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:10:38 2021 No.11856472 >>11856185 Pekora comes across as cold toward her mother even when it's her telling the story and we only get her side.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:10:55 2021 No.11856482 >>11856390 love this meme. Same with the Kuzuha carrying niji meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:11:26 2021 No.11856501 >>11856440 Why is hiromoot #2

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:11:30 2021 No.11856507 File: 529 KB, 1002x908, image_2021-10-23_061100.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does live-ranking still not record Mume's streams? OR is it EN vtubers in general? since Rosemi isn't here either.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:11:54 2021 No.11856525
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>>11855900
The mid-range of the estimates on socialblade is accurate based on CDawgVA's earnings. Gura has to be doing at least $50k a month, probably more since livestreams get a disproportionate amount of money from Youtube Premium viewers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:11:54 2021 No.11856524 >>11856415 at this rate she will reach 20k

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:11:58 2021 No.11856528 >Mumei 17k in Minecraft alone Mog the shit out of Vshitjos

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:12:08 2021 No.11856538 >>11855332 They thought she was just sitting in her room in her tiny Japanese house with thin walls, screaming in an anime voice for hours at a time for no real reason? Hmmmmmm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:12:38 2021 No.11856556 >>11856390 Thank you kind sister

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:13:05 2021 No.11856570 >>11856538 Either Pekoras parents are the dumbest fucks in Japan or it's kayfabe

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:13:15 2021 No.11856579 >>11856538 Maybe they she was just crazy. She was a hikkineet before Hololive after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:13:24 2021 No.11856584 >>11853951 >chink nene LET'S FUCKING GO!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:13:51 2021 No.11856596 >>11856301 Yeah. Even if they don't buy anything else on that visit, just getting someone to use a business for the first time makes them more likely to use it a second time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:13:56 2021 No.11856600 >>11856507 yeah they removed foreigners since gura kept being on top last year

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:14:04 2021 No.11856606 >>11856538 She used to be one of those "rage streamers" back during the NND days. She would also rant about shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:14:06 2021 No.11856607 >>11856507 I am blind, Elira and Petra are right there... though, they could pass as NijiJP

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:14:40 2021 No.11856626 >>11854419 pretty much everyone should be close to being a millionaire at this point, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:15:05 2021 No.11856641 >>11856525 Cool, do you have the link for your screenshot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:15:13 2021 No.11856651 >>11856606 Pekora reacting to one of her viewers sending her a dick pic is a great clip

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:16:24 2021 No.11856685 File: 181 KB, 400x400, 1629560658916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11856528 B-but Nyanners got 20k...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:16:48 2021 No.11856701 >>11854360 AZKi could follow Suisei's route, but she's busy working on her roommate's music. I just want to see her be successful like the rest of the girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:17:07 2021 No.11856715 >>11856538 Simply put, they clearly knew she was either streaming or talking to people in chat in videogames, they just didn't know what a vtuber was and that she was employed by Cover. hell, they already used Peko regularly through the house.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:17:33 2021 No.11856730 File: 215 KB, 2130x1022, mumei.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, why is she doing so poorly numbers-wise? She was supposed to be a certain star. The SCs and average CCV are pathetic. The subs are even worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:18:28 2021 No.11856770 >>11856626 Yeah. Anya is probably approaching trillionaire status at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:18:46 2021 No.11856782 >>11854589 I don't think that's how sponsorship works in Hololive. I mean just look at Luna. She's not the biggest yet she has quite a few sponsorships. I think Cover just asks who wants to take it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:18:56 2021 No.11856792

>>11856538
That isn't exactly what was said. Pekora said her mother didn't know she was a vtuber and her mother said things like "I thought you were doing strange things" im guessing the omitted part was "for money" so they probably thought she was a whore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:19:05 2021 No.11856796 >>11856607 They got paid off by NijiEN so they won't look pathetic compared to HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:19:18 2021 No.11856803 >>11856538 It's japan culture about hikineet Parents couldn't even open the door if the boy/girl refused to talk

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:19:24 2021 No.11856811 >>11856294 I don't know about that but she has talked about it herself. She thinks Youtube ads are annoying and she makes too much with other stuff to see any need to run them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:20:04 2021 No.11856830 >>11855953 Do we know if the same thing happened to Nijisanji or not? If not then it's because Japanese company still doesn't understand the demand Hololive can bring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:20:13 2021 No.11856836 >>11856730 She's 2nd in subs. She just doesn't stream that much. She also doesn't read SCs as far as I know so that's gonna hold her back in that regard, just like Ina.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:20:20 2021 No.11856846 >>11856641 I got it from a Twitch stream he did around a year ago. The VOD is long gone now. Here is a clip where he admits it happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QwI-bkxlxc&t=322s

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:20:51 2021 No.11856870 File: 57 KB, 1292x494, 1634716755116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11856685 Sorry I forgor how powerful Raidshojo are

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:21:13 2021 No.11856885 >>11856782 The big hitters get better sponsorships and probably better deals. The mid tiers are offered sponorships that can't afford the high tier holos, probably.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:21:29 2021 No.11856894 >>11856651 link?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:21:40 2021 No.11856900 >>11855271 >>11855119 Asian cultures are different. My parents don't expect me to help them with their mortgages. Sure they will be ecstatic if I do but they just want to see their children do well in life.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:22:51 2021 No.11856950

>>11856730
>200k+ views for streams is pathetic
>44k in 2 months is bad (more but Playboard didn't pick up a couple of streams)
>almost 10k average ccv is pathetic
the absolute state of numbers thread
Only focusing on Pekora vs Kuzuha who are straight up among the top 100 streamers in the world has rotten so many brains that they can't see a top 250 streamer as doing well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:23:15 2021 No.11856969 >>11856803 Damn! Here in my country, my mother will beat the shit out of us if we were to show that kind of disrespectful attitude

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:23:36 2021 No.11856984 >>11856730 > Mikado I keep seeing her channel whenever I open Holo channels on playboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:24:38 2021 No.11857030 File: 1.23 MB, 1468x888, image_2021-10-23_062426.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In numbers news, Froot (Apricot) got legit over 10k live viewers for her birthday. Will this appear in tomorrow's day end list?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:24:49 2021 No.11857039 >>11856730 Don't nijiniggers love talking about dead subs? Subs are meaningless right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:25:16 2021 No.11857063 File: 145 KB, 1154x680, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Enjoy the block autist buff while it lasts holoniggers. Ina proved that it goes away in 3 streams.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:26:21 2021 No.11857105

>>11856782
It's both, some of the low level phone-game crap are "whoever wants it" or maybe they have an internal rotation so people can't just be greedy and grab everything first. Other bigger things are by specific request of the company involved. Gura gets specifically requested for stuff because she's the biggest. Ina gets art specific stuff. Kiara got to the Tales sponsorship because she constantly shills it on her own, but couldn't do Shadow Nexus even though she wanted to because her numbers suck and they didn't want her. And there's probably a 3rd category which is "someone's gotta do this" which is if they procure a sponsorship and there's no volunteers, so someone gets voluntold, they flip a coin, or everyone has a quota for how many unwated sponsorships they have to do per quarter ect.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:26:36 2021 No.11857109 >>11857030 >8 people collab >Only 10k Absolutely pathetic

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:27:03 2021 No.11857125

>>11856836
379k subs after 2 months is pathetic for a EN holo member. Her CCV average isn't even 5 figures.
>She just doesn't stream that much
That should improve her numbers.
>She also doesn't read SCs as far as I know so that's gonna hold her back in that regard
She does but she doesn't want to so she leaves them off for the most part.

>>1856950
She was supposed to be a homerun grandslam. People were hyping her as the second coming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:27:08 2021 No.11857128 >>11856984 I know, it's so sad. All that money in ads, all that work to get the name out and she's getting recommended still, but only 100 live viewers and 2 more of her company mates left these last 2 months.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:27:15 2021 No.11857133 >>11857063 >enjoy minecraft Sure, no problem anon. We've had fun with it for over a year now

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:27:34 2021 No.11857141 >>11857030 Does everyone have their own POV?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:27:54 2021 No.11857153 File: 81 KB, 326x266, 1632895018608.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11856600 there's no way...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:28:17 2021 No.11857164 >>11857125 8 vs 1 >>11856528

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:28:24 2021 No.11857170 >>11856730 She's boring. If you took away Minecraft streams which are an easy additional 10k she looks even worse

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:28:31 2021 No.11857175 >>11857141 Nope single POV collab for entire Vshojo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:28:41 2021 No.11857181 >>11856730 >poorly I don't know what to say to you

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:28:59 2021 No.11857190 >>11857141 >Birthday >own POV

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:29:08 2021 No.11857196 >>11857125 >She just doesn't stream that much >That should improve her numbers. Not everyone is Ayame. >People were hyping her as the second coming. People were also hyping Petra as the Gura killer. Get off this board and take a look somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:29:36 2021 No.11857225 >>11857030 I mean that sort of looks like a full Vshoujo collab on her channel to me? Silver hardly looks recognizable but the model is much better than that stupid Bratz doll one she had before. Also is Haruka now officially a member?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:29:48 2021 No.11857231 >>11855939 can anyone give a tldr?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:29:52 2021 No.11857237 >>11856528 17k people who aren't paying, while the smaller VShojo streams will constantly have people throwing gift subscriptions left and right

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:30:18 2021 No.11857262 >>11857196 She's the reason people thought Petra was a contender. >>11857164 I don't care about vshojo. I like Hololive. I just think Mumei does bad numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:30:30 2021 No.11857269 >>11857170 >If you took away Minecraft

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:31:06 2021 No.11857286 >>11857196 >People were also hyping Petra as the Gura killer. Falseflagging cumbuds aren't "people"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:31:16 2021 No.11857291 >>11857133 >We've had fun with it for over a year now I think it's been over a year now...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:31:22 2021 No.11857296 >>11857125 I just love that Mumei is really Council's Gura in so many ways, I think Gura mentioned that the management even think they share almost the same voice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:31:41 2021 No.11857310 this numbers thread is full of retards, is it a time zone thing?

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:31:55 2021 No.11857316
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>>11857141
Some yes, people just come in and out, they were playing Minecraft 2 hours ago, not with the same people, and now she's playing Apex with 2 other people not pictured and got to 10k again.
Twitch is way more loose than YT corpo collabs.

Found that she actually passed 10k like 4 times this stream and only once there was "probably" a raid.
https://twitchtracker.com/apricot/streams/44166816413

BTW, people don't seem to understand that 10k is huge. Especially on Twitch, where not even moistcr1tikal (top 25 streamer) consistently gets 10k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:32:07 2021 No.11857324 >>11857269 The majority of Hololive would not even have HALF of their viewers without that single game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:32:16 2021 No.11857334 >>11857291 forgot to add that the current holosever has existed since 2019

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:32:37 2021 No.11857348 >>11856950 Mumei doesn't play in the minor leagues, she plays in the majors. She has to put up better numbers. 10k is not great at her level. >$44k It has the monetization stream in that figure. It isn't good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:34:02 2021 No.11857388 >>11857237 >Normal stream vs Birthday stream Bro...stop... you sounds pathetically retarded ...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:34:08 2021 No.11857395 >>11857125 It's really more like 600k with the -200 from getting fucked at debut, which puts her 100k behind Kronii, the star of her Gen, and about 80k behind IRyS who debuted like a month before her. Not bad at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:34:12 2021 No.11857398 >>11857310 Yeah? It's weekend too

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:34:44 2021 No.11857415 >>11857348 Rotten brains, see >>11857316 >BTW, people don't seem to understand that 10k is huge. Especially on Twitch, where not even moistcr1tikal (top 25 streamer) consistently gets 10k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:34:57 2021 No.11857423 >>11857105 Come to think of it, for Miko's popularity she doesn't seem to get many sponsorships from what I see. I know she recently got a horse racing one, but otherwise has she had others in the last 3 months?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:34:59 2021 No.11857426 >>11857324 pretty sure someone already got the stats for holos with and without minecraft before

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:35:03 2021 No.11857430 >>11857269 >If you took away APEX from king

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:35:17 2021 No.11857441 >>11857388 It doesn't matter how many children were lured into watching a boring owl play the funny block game at 15 FPS since they don't pay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:35:49 2021 No.11857459 >>11857415 I don't care about vshojo, they could get 1k or 100k viewers. Mumei just isn't meeting expectations and is kind of a midget.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:35:58 2021 No.11857468

>>11857316
Oh there are some of us that do, hitting 10k on the regular, on YouTube, with all its culling bullshit, would pretty much mean you're almost always on the front page of Twitch. Many have also said that if you took Hololive and dumped them on Twitch, they would pretty much completely dominate the front page of Twitch whenever they stream to the point that Twitch moderation would probably have to segregate them to avoid that from happening.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:36:01 2021 No.11857469 >>11857430 you don't even need to do that anymore. he's already dead even with apex

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:36:31 2021 No.11857487 >>11857316 I mean it is good, but Veibae, Nyanners, Ironmouse seem to passively get like 8-9k doing mundane streams. So it's more "good for Fruit" than otherwise being especially notable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:36:43 2021 No.11857492 >>11857423 i remember her having her collab cafe and that one game from an eroge publisher i think

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:36:58 2021 No.11857501 >>11857469 Let me guess you're one of those fags who thinks he gets 140k average

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:37:57 2021 No.11857547 File: 191 KB, 478x455, 78413.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >if you took away minecraft

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:38:50 2021 No.11857572 Speaking of Kuzuha, he's playing Among us with fucking Hiroyuki again, on the 24th. I do believe he'll get less views since the novelty is gone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:38:53 2021 No.11857574 >>11857423 Nope, though she had the maid café collab this summer and the PARQUET game sponsorship. https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC-hM6YJuNYVAmUWxeIr9FeA/ad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:39:04 2021 No.11857582 >>11857459 You see like some kind of weirdo Mumei anti. 2nd most popular of her gen is pretty much every metric including views when they all stream together with multi-POV. Why are you specifically after her?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:39:19 2021 No.11857595 >>11857430 Kuzuha BoTW stream numbers: 40k, 28k, 26k Mumei BoTW stream numbers: 10k, 9k, 6k She needs block game way more than he needs APEX.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:40:32 2021 No.11857657 >>11857595 >comparing Kuzuha to Mumei

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:40:47 2021 No.11857671

>>11857423
Miko's popularity shot up heavily at the end of Q4, but companies probably want to wait and see if she could maintain those sorts of numbers before they go to her for sponsorships. Also, consider that if you have the money, Miko probably costs quite a bit for sponsorships and if you're spending big bucks, you try and land the best no? It's kind of awkward spot where you're valuable, but not the most valuable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:41:01 2021 No.11857681 Looking at the numbers objectively I think Froot did well today 10k viewers on twitch for a 3k average streamer with 250k followers who's only streamed 20-30 hours in the last 2 months is a good return.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:41:23 2021 No.11857696 File: 34 KB, 229x228, 684564655487.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11857170

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:42:09 2021 No.11857732 kek kuzufaggot can't compare themselves to queen Usada anymore, now picking on the latest holo debutant to shitpost

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:43:28 2021 No.11857800 >>11857732 Don't be too hard on him

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:43:55 2021 No.11857822 >>11857732 The king is weak and fragile from carrying Nijisanji. Please understand that he has back problems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:43:56 2021 No.11857823 >>11856701 IRyS is Azki done right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:44:31 2021 No.11857847 wow vsojo shill suddenly appeared with mere 10k! need them raids to even comparable to holo huh

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:44:36 2021 No.11857853 >>11857582 Stop replying schizo and retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:45:03 2021 No.11857880 >>11857582 >Mumei anti I am not. >2nd best If that's second than Council isn't up to par. >Why are you specifically after her? I expect more and she doesn't deliver.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:47:33 2021 No.11857994 >>11857847 I wonder if he's real vshojo fan? or just uses vshitjo to shitpost Holo since niji is fucking dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:47:34 2021 No.11857997 >>11857823 The only problems with Azki are that she isn't part of Hololive proper, and that she was part of the scene too early.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:48:41 2021 No.11858040

>>11857853
Mumei was supposed to be a star. She is ending up being a middle of the pack holomem. I'm not a Kuzuhafag, I don't care about you petty tribalism. I am disappointed. Council just isn't cutting it as they rarely stream, half of them debuff themselves in some way, and they aren't into numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:49:21 2021 No.11858058 >>11857994 Not really, you could tell with the pattern of shitposting. He's a kuzunigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:49:48 2021 No.11858084 File: 220 KB, 875x1310, 1022.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today's superchats

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:51:23 2021 No.11858152 >>11857501 no, but he has clearly reclined

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:52:51 2021 No.11858202 >>11858084 Ame gets a payday for throwing a tantrum, nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:53:29 2021 No.11858226 >>11858084 So, What'd Kaida/Chihiro do to hit those SC earnings?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:53:44 2021 No.11858228 >>11857823 AZKi could do the same thing IRyS and Suisei is doing but she rather focuses on her roommate's music.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:53:50 2021 No.11858233

Data anons, is there any way to see the aggregate number of streams (1h or more long) for all of hololive over the weeks?
I'm having a (unfounded) hunch over the direction of the company here. It may be just preparing for the big December concert though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:54:48 2021 No.11858263 >>11858202 Someone in /hlgg/ compared teamates to a femdom kinda relationship, and as a pretty frequent Ame viewer it's hard to disagree

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:56:53 2021 No.11858330 >>11858233 Don't be shy and tell us your hunch.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:57:09 2021 No.11858338
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Found another random thing to number crunch and it's "sponsored streams".
For Hololive, Pekora jumped ahead with last months FF7 and Yakuza

Pekora 19 - 20
Fubuki 18
Botan 17
Mori 16
Kiara 16
Korone 14

Buuut, it puts things into perspective when you compare to Nijisanji's sponsored streams where kings are
Kanae 31
Kuzuha 32

even Hana Macchia had 22 sponsorships, when best HoloID had were Moona and Reine with 8.
Hell, Sibuya Hajime had 10!

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:57:36 2021 No.11858356

>>11858226
Kaida is part of a new unit and got his 3D model revealed (still no official 3D debut but I'm guessing that'll be soon now)
Chii-chan got one of the hardest badges you can get in Apex (I think, I'm no Apex expert but that's what people were saying)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 03:57:57 2021 No.11858368 >>11857657 Lol desperate kuzufags looking for new target since he got mogged by pekora

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:03:06 2021 No.11858552

>>11858226
Stream with Kuzuha and Kanae... literally
https://playboard.co/en/video/A2wr87V0O00
But no, seriously, it was a long awaited reunion and she was doing a challenge which got most of the donations before the reunion.

And Kaida had a pre-debut 3D reveal since they needed it for a promotion video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2cQHLVfq_o
People threw money at the stream where he talked about it
https://playboard.co/en/video/TX8kLQtrA_I

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:05:22 2021 No.11858661 >>11858338 You need to take in account that some streamers are more expensive

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:05:55 2021 No.11858693 >>11858356 >>11858552 Ah, and thus the SC numbers make sense. Thankee.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:07:53 2021 No.11858777 >>11858338 Makes sense to me, Niji has been getting sponsorships for longer than Hololive and also doesn't have the Taiwan stigma attached. Also, do all the baseball streams count as paid promotion or no?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:10:30 2021 No.11858875 >>11858356 Kaida, Toya, Kagami and Fuwa is a new group now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:11:37 2021 No.11858927 >>11858338 kuzuha got a lot of tech companies and chink sponsorships, still, a random chink game collab and a FF/Squenix collab can't be judged equally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:13:42 2021 No.11859019 >>11858338 Wait, Kiara and Mori are seriously that close to Fubuki in terms of number of promotional streams? That's kind of insane desu, I'm having difficulty believing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:15:55 2021 No.11859118 >>11859019 For Kiara, she has multiple streams for one game in Tales of Arise, are all those promotional? If so, it just makes sense.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:16:47 2021 No.11859148

>>11859019
Mori did a lot of really shitty low end promos early in her career and at some point played Shadowverse like 8 times or something. Kiara is more or less the same. Ame and Gura have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do sponsorships and Ina only does stuff that she's directly interested in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:17:48 2021 No.11859187 >>11859118 Not all of Kiara's Tales streams are promotional. Her normal playthrough of the recent one wasn't, just the first few streams and her interview with the producer, plus the sneak peek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:17:52 2021 No.11859189 ina is reclining

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:18:48 2021 No.11859236 >>11859019 Shadowverse and Tales truely is something for both of them.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:19:27 2021 No.11859267

>>11858330
Basically, they're completing their turn in JP from streamer company that sometimes does music to music company that sometimes streams and quicker (since they saw Shion, Ayame, Aqua... they know they can get away with this without losing fans).
This means way less and shorter streams, even more of them being promotional/sponsors ones while they increase the number of concerts and original songs. The streams are now filler between concerts/songs.
I'm not talking about every single one in JP though.
It's a bit of a worry to me since I don't hate at all their musical part but the reason I started watching the Holos and keep watching was the everyday streaming experience with their chat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:20:12 2021 No.11859300 >>11859187 That's still a lot of streams for one sponsorship. What we need to count is how many unique sponsors they have shilled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:21:53 2021 No.11859371 File: 1.09 MB, 920x2356, 364987.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11859019

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:22:56 2021 No.11859420 >>11859148 I think Kiara genuinely enjoys shilling. Not sure I'd say the same for Mori though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:26:49 2021 No.11859547 >>11858927 The chink shit killed all the tech sponsorships

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:28:45 2021 No.11859616 File: 1.07 MB, 952x2340, 3464899.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11859420 I think Mori just grabbed whatever sponsorship she could get at the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:29:59 2021 No.11859831 >>11859371 >Most of Kiara's ones are fron Tales of Arise I'm starting to believe the rrat about the developer having the hots for chikim.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:30:30 2021 No.11859859 >>11859547 It killed my desire to get an Asus router too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:31:20 2021 No.11859902 >>11859420 Kiara likes the process of advertising stuff and the prestige of being a commercial ambassador. Mori likes getting money.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:34:07 2021 No.11860006
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>>11859831
There's an article that stated that Bandai Namco got the idea from a western market researcher.
Maybe they were a KFP? Who knows.
I remember seeing that one of the directors for the Tales of Series franchise follows Kiara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:36:37 2021 No.11860109 >>11860006 The one she interviewed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:43:03 2021 No.11860366 File: 392 KB, 743x361, e4r5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Animal hoodies >Loli-design Were they suppose to contest Gura with it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:52:55 2021 No.11860784 File: 32 KB, 640x360, hfrjtgrto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holodex would've become the perfect numberfag sites if the put rankings on it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:53:37 2021 No.11860811 >>11860366 >meanwhile anya, Petra soulmate at 1.6k doing phasmo collab is this the end of Anya-Petra global bros?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:55:20 2021 No.11860873 >>11860784 that would lead to the final yab unironically

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:56:35 2021 No.11860915 >>11860006 Pretty sure BanCo US sponsored holoEN so much that we all lost count, and ignored it ever happened

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 04:58:07 2021 No.11860972 >>11860915 They never ended up giving soulsbourne permissions or at least have someone to ask Fromsoft to allow it

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:02:11 2021 No.11861129 File: 589 KB, 1660x352, image_2021-10-23_120203.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Moona...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:04:55 2021 No.11861233 Another day for IRyS to collect her usual 4k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:09:57 2021 No.11861442 >>11861233 Nah, she'll get 8k-10k since its Minecraft

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:15:27 2021 No.11861650 File: 2.14 MB, 946x2048, 1607408156282.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Look at this Donki, look at this and think why the fuck don't you make more of this plushies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:16:57 2021 No.11861701 >>11861650 All the girls have pretty much confirmed that Donki is gonna do an online merch run. Feels like the limited store run was just to gauge interest, now that they know all the merch sold out in 10m, they're gonna mass produce em.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:17:12 2021 No.11861714 File: 797 KB, 793x807, 1630153152516.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11861650

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:21:06 2021 No.11861845
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>>11861701
>gauge interest
Well considering that the deal was made back in 2020 I can somehow understand it since they are not a household name like Nijisanji but 1-2 plushies per holo per shop seems too low.
I hope whoever bought it from scalpers got their money worth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:23:40 2021 No.11861934 >>11861845 the suisei one is really fucking cute

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:24:20 2021 No.11861951

>>11861845
Its been one of the biggest problems Hololive faces with sponsors, they underestimate how fast Holo shit sells.
Redbull sold out a 2 months campaign supply of Redbull in an hour when Botan/Aqua promoted it with the chance of winning a handshake meeting thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:28:07 2021 No.11862061 >>11861650 Over 3 grand for all of them they reckon. I wonder if that'll sell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:30:13 2021 No.11862142 >>11862061 Oh definitely, if they could afford it. It's slightly more expensive than your normal scalper's price but it's all 31 of them without even needing to queue and whatnot.

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:37:57 2021 No.11862435

>>11857853
Actually I think the guy is that one from before who proclaimed in this thread that Mumei would pass Kronii eventually, yet even with all the breaks Kronii's doing Mumei's still lagging behind her in both subs and views, with perhaps the exception on karaokes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:40:29 2021 No.11862512 >>11861233 >>11861442 4k for any other stream 8k for archived singing 12k for MC 16k for unarchived singing

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:41:40 2021 No.11862539 File: 1.08 MB, 931x1023, image_2021-10-23_124130.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SOLD!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:42:40 2021 No.11862575 >>11862539 stop it, this hurts my soul...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:43:28 2021 No.11862604 >>11861129 She was doing donation reading

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:44:10 2021 No.11862630 >>11862539 The absolute state...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:44:18 2021 No.11862636 >>11862539 STOP BUYING THEM AAAAAAAAa

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:47:30 2021 No.11862741 >>11862539 >Aqua and Coco Is this guy trying to send a message or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:47:54 2021 No.11862747 >>11862539 haven't been paying attention, how much are they normally?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:48:13 2021 No.11862758 >>11862539 what website is this? i wanna see it for myself, it's hilarious

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:48:54 2021 No.11862774 >>11862747 around 3k yen

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:48:57 2021 No.11862777 >>11862539 >>11862575 >>11862636 What's the issue? Sold, not by >>11862636 Cover themselves?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:50:52 2021 No.11862834 >>11862539 How big are those? They look like keychain ornaments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:54:52 2021 No.11862951 >>11862777 Scalpers

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:55:16 2021 No.11862960 So what happened with Vshojo's Japanese TV deal? That was supposed to be big yet no one ever mentioned it again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:55:21 2021 No.11862962 File: 535 KB, 2048x1536, 1630528123066.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11862834

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:55:51 2021 No.11862975 File: 697 KB, 634x889, image_2021-10-23_125242.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] KEEP BUYING

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:58:13 2021 No.11863039 >>11862975 people are probably just impatient, i wouldn't be surprised if the mail orders wont get going till months later

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:58:44 2021 No.11863054 >>11862951 Oh fuck,

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 05:59:38 2021 No.11863075 >>11862975 >>11851176 aquashion bros...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 06:15:13 2021 No.11863543 12k on Irys MC stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 06:15:40 2021 No.11863559 >>11863075 It's over. Shion is Gura's wife now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 06:15:53 2021 No.11863570 >>11862975 Good lord.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 23 06:33:40 2021 No.11864088 >>11859267 You think too much. Only a handful of Holos are music/idol orientated. Hell, Ayame and Shion has nothing to do with this.

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