Takanashi Kiara

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Takanashi Kiara Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:31:32 2021 No.11950165 [Reply] [Original]

Scared? What are you, a chicken?

Phasmophobia collab Kiara POV: https://youtu.be/oWdK9evvfOE

Schedule: https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1452395544387719182

Art by: https://twitter.com/PANDAIMYON/status/1451941937762668546

Previous thread: >>11919609

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:32:56 2021 No.11950227 File: 1.79 MB, 1813x1080, FCfx89AXoAEfCeQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:34:44 2021 No.11950297 >>11950227 >two streams tomorrow >two streams on sunday >One stream every other day S-so much Kiara!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:35:34 2021 No.11950326 Did she cheat during Among Us?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:37:19 2021 No.11950398 Damn, I was really hoping she would get the heart rate monitor working at the tale end of the member stream so she could be like "oh, how intimate, you chickens can see how much you make my heart go doing doki"

Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:39:03 2021 No.11950477

>>11949283
Having objectives like "lifting her mood" or "making her laugh" is stressful and not the type of objective I should have from an entertainer. I think I'll have more fun if I care less about her and just let her and the paypigs run the show.
Or jump ship to another vtuber who doesn't makes me care about her on that level.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:43:29 2021 No.11950650 >>11950227 >Days off: 0 Chikim...

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:44:32 2021 No.11950692 >>11950650 Monday is technically a day off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:44:53 2021 No.11950705 >Kiara actually addressing the Gura ENxIDxJP Amogus yab The rrats were right??

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:47:11 2021 No.11950791 >>11950705 The rrat was about translatons not about everyone ganging up on Gura. It was easy to guess that Gura was salty, the rrat just got the reason wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:48:15 2021 No.11950833 >>11950692 You got a point there. At least its something

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:48:17 2021 No.11950835 >>11950705 Hey guess what I love kiara best orange

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 22:50:22 2021 No.11950928 >>11950705 schizochads are always right

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:06:42 2021 No.11951717 File: 156 KB, 334x307, kikkiriki[sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Ft1nb5b.mp3].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:10:10 2021 No.11951909 Do you think Kiara still enjoys being a part of hololive or is she starting to get burned out?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:10:55 2021 No.11951955 Cover's program to stream their models to others is quite the embarassement for a tech company. >>11951909 If anything she is enjoying it too much which is why she is working so insanely hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:11:15 2021 No.11951980 >>11951909 She's the one with 9 streams on her schedule, you tell me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:11:39 2021 No.11952013 >>11951955 Oh that MMO is going to end up great..

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:11:51 2021 No.11952025 >>11951781 ??? Did I fell asleep during the member only? When did she say that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:13:22 2021 No.11952112 >>11952025 She said nothing of the sort.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:14:18 2021 No.11952185 >>11950835 >>11952025 Bait

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:14:41 2021 No.11952213 >>11950165 >HoloEN collabs will never devolve into Space Balls references

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:18:34 2021 No.11952454 Wait a second, Kiara isn't going >YAAAAS She's going >JAAAAS

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:23:45 2021 No.11952735 HOW DARE SHE https://streamable.com/y84cs2

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:34:33 2021 No.11953267 File: 128 KB, 1024x1024, 1633052006540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11950165 I Love Takanashi Kiara

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:37:42 2021 No.11953455 >>11952735 I like how Kiara isn't afraid to banter with the other ENs

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:41:51 2021 No.11953682 Kiara died at the front door, as expected.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:48:48 2021 No.11954146 really wish they'd invite Fubuki or do a training arc to unlock higher level stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 24 23:59:27 2021 No.11954688 hey can you ask your oshi to stop ruining every single collab she participates in? thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:01:02 2021 No.11954762 Seems like eggs got slapped in /hlgg/ again. Really sad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:02:58 2021 No.11954860 >>11954688 Blame the ghost

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:07:34 2021 No.11955113 >Alice:Madness returns Pretty unexpected, though some of the chapters absolutely overstay their welcome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:08:52 2021 No.11955193 >>11955113 We will see if she continues it after the first stream. The week after is already pretty filled with multiple collabs and Ori.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:10:21 2021 No.11955262 >>11955193 >and Ori. She's not starting Ori right away though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:10:33 2021 No.11955272 >>11955193 Are you saying you think kiara wont finish this game you have no faith

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:11:33 2021 No.11955326 >>11955262 I thought she said in the member stream that she will start Ori first November week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:11:45 2021 No.11955339 >>11954688 bro this isn't the fauna split what are you talking about

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:17:47 2021 No.11955614 File: 81 KB, 351x426, E_LmP6NVUAIsXcw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11955339 lmao rude

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:28:56 2021 No.11956098 >>11955614 cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:41:32 2021 No.11956749 Kiara if you are here stop calling people braindead lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:42:54 2021 No.11956837 Does she really want to do shorter streams?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:45:22 2021 No.11956981 >>11956749 I'm pretty sure she's trying to say mindbroken, but she's too ESL to realize.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:45:36 2021 No.11956996 >>11956749 counterpoint: don't, everyone knows she doesn't mean it like that but they're still shocked every time

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:46:57 2021 No.11957077 >>11956749 It's funny as fuck though. Especially after the amongus IQ tangent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:48:08 2021 No.11957131 >>11956749 I mean it's really funny. She obviously meant mind broken.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:55:42 2021 No.11957461 >>11956749 Surprised there's no one sperging on global about her calling bae braindead 2 times during the stream kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:56:06 2021 No.11957470 File: 1.17 MB, 1920x1080, 1633885714952.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I firmly believe this woman will live and die by streaming. This bitch is crazy! 2AM...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 00:57:25 2021 No.11957522 >>11957461 Many of her antis are too ESL to even notice that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:00:12 2021 No.11957614 >>11957461 Most people realized that she meant mindbroken.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:07:37 2021 No.11957899 KIARE TRAVELLING TO AMSTERDAM TO GET FUCKED BY CHOSEN KFP ARTISTS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:08:51 2021 No.11957943 WHAT COULD TAKANASHI KIARA FROM HOLOLIVE ENGLISH COULD POSSIBLY MEANT BY THIS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:09:18 2021 No.11957951 File: 64 KB, 379x450, 1631732907799.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11957899 you jealous ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:09:52 2021 No.11957981 she wants to touch some "grass" she means bush, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:12:01 2021 No.11958091 >>11957951 One day I will get a kikkeriki in my DMs, just gotta do my reps

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:13:30 2021 No.11958160 >>11957981 No she means Fauna

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:21:09 2021 No.11958425 >>11952454 Oh shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:22:18 2021 No.11958465 Oh boi...what is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:33:44 2021 No.11958879 Fuck, I think Kiara might actually successfully convert me into a gosling after a year of her being my oshi

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:49:17 2021 No.11959540 >>11958879 Are you prepared to kill Shelob in order to protect Kiara?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:51:46 2021 No.11959665 File: 5 KB, 292x81, 1635126521999.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ina is watching the stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:52:38 2021 No.11959716 >>11959665 Watching the superchat no less, she wouldn't have caught that unless she was looking at the video

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:54:32 2021 No.11959814 Did Kiara say that the Pomu collab got rejected by management?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:55:29 2021 No.11959856 >>11959540 Anon I would beat Ungoliant to death with my bare hands to protect Kiara

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:56:17 2021 No.11959889

>>11959665
>>11959716
Guys... Ina is in a collab with Mori in a few minutes and thats why Mori joined the room in the first place. They are in discord together, Mori realized Kiara is still in the room and thats why Mori and Ina opened Kiara's chat to hear her reaction. Sorry to shatter your dreams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:57:54 2021 No.11959956 File: 41 KB, 342x299, 1635039554919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11959889 At least I still have the voices in my head

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:58:29 2021 No.11959978 >>11959814 my mood if that's what's happening. >Some of you (Jenma) are alright, don't come to Cover HQ tomorrow...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 01:59:17 2021 No.11960011 >>11959889 i mean, she might also just have her as a background noise while doing prep work. Hell, that's what i do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:01:14 2021 No.11960098 Is there a chance that the one indie she had connection with is Ks*n? I don't think she meant Vei, it could be Pomu but "the connection"...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:02:59 2021 No.11960175 >>11959814 When did she mentioned management? Pretty sure she said that person turned her down and it was about that bitch Veibae that got scared of the "nerds" and got replaced with pink traitor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:03:25 2021 No.11960199 >>11959814 >>11959978 I mean, what i get from what she said it was management, but not Hololive but Niji side

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:03:31 2021 No.11960205 >>11960098 Kson sounds reasonable. NijiJP and HoloJP are good buddies. EN management is retarded but I can not see them shut down a NijiENxHoloEN collab.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:04:10 2021 No.11960229 >>11959814 I think management is just expecting her to change her waking hours if she wants a chance at steady collabs. She talked about how management keeps doing meetings after midnight for her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:06:21 2021 No.11960362 >Losing connection to the real and virtual world what did she mean by this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:07:28 2021 No.11960449 >>11960362 She is currently talking to a screen about her cats at 4am. What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:07:47 2021 No.11960466 >>11960362 She's lonely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:08:25 2021 No.11960502 I missed the members stream. Got a QRD on what she talked about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:10:38 2021 No.11960636 Is she dragging the stream to try to steal the views from the other collab?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:10:57 2021 No.11960665

>>11960098
I don't think she'd be that disappointed if a Kson collab got blocked since that'd be expected.
>>11960175
how she talked about the person didn't make it sound like vei, it makes more sense if it's Pomu and I doubt she's somehow found some other chuuba to collab with
>>11960199
A lot of people seem to be discarding this possibility or assuming Holo management blocked it but I really do think it was probably just Niji's managers. There's nothing about Nijisanji that makes them immune from the same Japanese corporate retardation that infests all of their companies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:11:34 2021 No.11960708 >>11959856 I never thought I'd simp alongside a gosling Honestly, I'd show up for all 17 hours of a LOTR + Hobbit watchalong

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:12:18 2021 No.11960760 >>11959814 She said that a collab with "someone she really connected with" was turned down by management and she explicitly would not say who the collab was with. It has to be Pomu, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:12:44 2021 No.11960787 I really hope it wasn't Pomu that Kiara got rejected. Please management get off your high horse and let the girls have fun...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:13:34 2021 No.11960850 >>11960760 Has she really connected with Pomu? They had some light interaction at best. She really connected with Coco, though and I can see her asking for a Kson collab.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:13:50 2021 No.11960863

>>11960665
>There's nothing about Nijisanji that makes them immune from the same Japanese corporate retardation that infests all of their companies.
except the sheer amount of cross branch and indie collabs they do, JP or not. HoloEN has been an isolated isle for almost it's entire existence, but sure, it's Anycolor's fault.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:14:46 2021 No.11960944 >>11960665 Pretty sure it was Holo management, Nijisanji has been pretty open about collabs with other companies, this week even there's multiple collabs from multiple EN girls with other companies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:15:28 2021 No.11960996 File: 146 KB, 1068x1068, FAs5YXMVIAQM3lM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kiarii....

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:15:57 2021 No.11961036 >>11960449 >>11960466 And we are watching an anime girl speaking for hours to non-end. Are >we lonely and losing connection with the real and virtual world as well?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:16:12 2021 No.11961063 >>11960850 At very least we know that they interact by twitter DM rather then just public replies, so she probably did? Plus, in anything, she probably would hit bette with Pomu then any of her genmates given their similar tastes and energy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:16:20 2021 No.11961078 >>11960850 They've DM'd each other, tweeted at each other on more than one occasion, and have both talked about the other onstream before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:16:37 2021 No.11961106 >>11960850 They DM each other a ton behind the scenes. Pomu talks about it more apparently. It makes the NijiEN thread seethe every time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:17:37 2021 No.11961181 >>11961036 She's literally me...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:18:06 2021 No.11961217 >>11961106 Except they're the ones seething the most right now because this collab was denied. Stop making shit up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:19:09 2021 No.11961277 Casting my vote here It had to be Pomu, waaaaaay too early for Kson collab to be a thing, and the Pomu collab has been properly prompted from both girls

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:19:24 2021 No.11961292

>>11960362
Isn't it obvious? She spends most of her time cooped up inside her apartment, either doing long streams, or preparing for streams, or chilling down with netflix after a stream (that's the "losing connection to the real world" part), and as far as the "virtual world" is concerned, it's obvious by how she's located in a metaphorical deadman's land of a timezone, so she can't really casually hang with either the NA girls or the JP/AU girls, it's always either too early or too late for any of them. She knows it's nothing intentional and nobody means anything bad by it and she doesn't blame anyone, but she can't help but feeling a little bit left out and alone, at least emotionally. It's obvious how much she wants some fellow yuro friends to hang out with, and I sympathize with her, Cover really doesn't give a shit, no additional EU holos either, and "just collab with some indies instead lol" apparently isn't the simple solution either.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:20:18 2021 No.11961360

https://youtu.be/oWdK9evvfOE?t=10091
timestamp of her mentioning it, on a second listen I don't think it really implies which side shot it down but I really don't think it's anyone but pomu. Kson just makes 0 sense out of nowhere and Kiara is too smart than to have expected that to fly so soon and the Vei thing has already long ago crashed and burned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:20:43 2021 No.11961392 >>11961106 Damn. Even the nijiniggers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:25:02 2021 No.11961691 >>11961392 They seethe about Holos in general

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:25:43 2021 No.11961726 >>11961392 They spend more time bitching about Hololive than watching streams sometimes.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:26:05 2021 No.11961753

Ok, team assembly:

- Who was she talking about?
Explain your theory, and support it by her quotes and circumstantial evidence. So far I've heard the names (ordered in my subjective probability) Pomu, Vei and Kson mentioned.

- Why didn't it happen yet?
Obviously ties in with the first question, because that each person has different circumstances to consider, but state your explanation who is responsible for blocking it, and why?
Is it a HoloEN-side management problem (not unlikely, given what we already know about their restrictions and autism), or is it the other side?

Need your best theories

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:26:14 2021 No.11961759 >>11960199 NijiEN is having a collab with Prism and other indies this week, they seem pretty lax. But I guess we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes with niji/HoloEN.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:27:13 2021 No.11961798

>>11950227
>>11950297
and 5 days out of 7 she have a collab of some sort, I don't quite get why she feels isolated or whatever of course they wouldn't think about reaching for her when she constantly does it herself, nobody in Holo EN collabs this widely with all the branches etc.

>>11955113
>>11955193
She would love how Alice looks, the hair animation and all that but the gameplay can be pretty meh, also the game itself is rather buggy and unstable so it might end up with complete disaster. I would much rather have holomem play the first one from 1999 on Quake 3 engine, that was a psychodelic gem but have fun obtaining it in a legal way this days not to even mention permissions...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:29:07 2021 No.11961868 >>11961798 She said it herself in the stream, she wants to be able to hang out with someone in real life, even if its only once a month or something. All the other Holo girls have someone they can go meet if they really wanted to except Kiara.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:30:12 2021 No.11961916 >>11961292 Outside of conventions and having a normal job that was always her world though

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:30:33 2021 No.11961936

>>11961292
It sucks because as much as I love who we got for EN2 the auditions surely had a sizable chunk of EU applications. They're leaving an entire timezone (semi-)dead while the others are overlapping over themselves. Absolutely baffling decisions here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:32:14 2021 No.11962031 >>11961036 >Are >we lonely and losing connection with the real and virtual world as well? I want Kiara to save me...

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:40:10 2021 No.11962491

>>11961798
>and 5 days out of 7 she have a collab of some sort, I don't quite get why she feels isolated or whatever of course they wouldn't think about reaching for her when she constantly does it herself, nobody in Holo EN collabs this widely with all the branches etc.

Bro, that's not really the same. Yes, she has many "official" collabs, which may make her seem like a social butterfly for a superficial observer, but what she actually means is that she wants someone (or multiple people of course, at best) she can just hang out with casually spontaneously, which is easiest in the same timezone, and just talk about random shit or her worries, etc. instead of drifting apart from her colleagues because they're either in NA or JP. She wants some Euro Holos (so yeah, it's not just a matter of "lol just get more real life friends, easy", because she wants to talk about work stuff, or maybe do something with them, and collab without killing her bio rhythm for once) to hang out / play with and support.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:41:20 2021 No.11962554

>>11960665
>how she talked about the person didn't make it sound like vei, it makes more sense if it's Pomu and I doubt she's somehow found some other chuuba to collab with

it was pretty generic stuff like "special connection" pretty sure she said similar things about veiwhore at the time and especially if she said that the other person turned her down which is how I remember this part and as we know vei bailed out after we popularized certain clip and even some r/hololive fags got angry, Don't really see why Pomu would keep the distance, she made some comments against idol culture in the past I guess but not exactly enough to set the hate machine going.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 02:52:27 2021 No.11963261 >>11961936 I don't know how big the market for chuubas is here but it certainly doesn't help that the amount of decent chuubas streaming during primetime is like 3 lol

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:01:47 2021 No.11963778

>>11961936
than again Kiara was worried about overlaps ... Anyway hololive put's emphasis on generation as a team so they couldn't just chopped it in two in terms of timezones just because they might use some more Euro members, the best bet here is either the next gen or perhaps another Vsinger through HOPE since that seem to work differently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:07:36 2021 No.11964121 >>11961726 Yes, we hate holobronies who go spamming holoshit in the chat

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:07:53 2021 No.11964142 >>11963778 They need vsinger to be in Japan, close to the studios for all the recordings and possible 3D events

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:09:14 2021 No.11964216

>>11962554
Listening to the timestamp>>11961360 , it's still pretty inconclusive who it was and why it was shot down so far (and by whom).

I don't think it's Vei, that case has been closed for months already and Kiara never mentioned her again after her little phase of infatuation was cut short by the drama fallout. Or at least that's my wishful thinking, because I'd prefer to think she got over Vei and is looking at better chubbas instead - like Pomu.
If it's her, we can instead theorize about who blocked it, because we know it's not an issue between the talents themselves and they would be down to collab anytime, given how friendly they already interacted, what with mentioning each other on stream, twitter interactions and more (I'd eat my hat if they weren't also already talking offstream over discord with each other behind the scenes).
The "who's responsible for blocking it" part is obviously intentionally left vague by her, and there are multiple possibilites for that. If it was the other side that said no (but then we'd have to ask, why?), she doesn't want to cause public embarassment for them by saying they're responsible (and potentially burning possible future bridges forever), and fans could get riled up and spam the other party, also not a good look, so it's best to just keep completely mum on the whole issue anyway.
Or if it's her own company that blocked it (and by everything we already know from HoloENs restrictive "walled garden" management autism, I'll always lean towards that as the first probable perpetrator), she also probably got the order "no we don't allow you that collab, AND no, you're also not allowed to say that it was us who blocked it", so that it's not HoloEN management that gets asked the uncomfortable questions by fans etc. and we're all rather left in this nonresolving limbo state of "yeah there was that thing with I can't say who, that didn't work out because I can't say why, just that it sucks and I wish it would" where we're all just left with an impression of some fucked shit is going on behind the scenes, but we don't know anything, and the person who knows can't tell us anything, we can only see that she's clearly unhappy about it but can't do anything, and that just sucks, man...

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:12:30 2021 No.11964425

>>11961360
Well if it was Holo management wouldn't she say it directly? Unless it was a more complicated situation and say Omega was fine but some higher up blocked it like with that Moist Critical collab with Calli but Kiara typically have no qualms shitting on producer-san and management in general so the wording would suggest it's the other party that bailed out for whatever reason, perhaps because of their tribalistic audience?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:14:24 2021 No.11964543 >>11964425 >Moist Critical collab with Calli If Mori herself can move on from this, I'm pretty sure you can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:16:24 2021 No.11964673 >>11964543 Has she moved on from Atlus? I'm not even a deadbeat but a P3 stream would have been kino

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:18:30 2021 No.11964787 jwu are you guys raging as hard as that split I subconsciously started trolling in?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:19:45 2021 No.11964871 https://mobile.twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1452472533891043329 Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:20:57 2021 No.11964930 >>11964871 I have no thoughts, only watch stream, though Pomu's durian eating stream was excellent

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:27:10 2021 No.11965262

I don't think it's Pomu. Hololive doesn't have a collab ban with Nijis, Polka collabed with Honma just last week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXJZQJO-p8Y
If I were to guess, it would be Veibae - management saw the spergout people had last time, and put a ban on it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:27:13 2021 No.11965265 >>11964673 She never did she is still determined to play persona 3

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:28:56 2021 No.11965345 >>11964871 Yeah this "coincidentally" happening just so short after the talk on stream solidifies it for me. Fighto chimken

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:29:32 2021 No.11965378 >>11965262 Each branch is managed differently, Kiara even said as much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:30:04 2021 No.11965432 >>11964930 That was a good one, I still think my favorite is the God Knows marathon.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:30:24 2021 No.11965453

>>11964673
She did. Her Atlus begging stream was the second biggest embarrassment for Holo management last year, after Coco's Taiwan yab. It was completely tone-deaf to the Japanese corpo culture, and basically ruined any chances of Hololive ever getting Atlus permissions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:30:39 2021 No.11965466 >>11965345 Anon it was literally 4AM for Kiara

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:32:27 2021 No.11965587

>>11965262
Anon it has been long known that EN management has been restrictive in how they handle collaborations, independent of how JP runs things. The VShojo collabs and Mori's other musical collabs were not granted without much negotiation. Why bend backwards to speculate someone else when Kiara already let it known she was hoping to organize a collab with Pomu?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:32:49 2021 No.11965611

>>11965378
They're not managed that differently, it's still one company. The differences are in game permissions, because that shit is related to copyright. Besides, Kiara's manager is Japanese and not dumb, so she would know what's up. I can't imagine a situation where she would block something as innocent as a Pomu collab, especially when Kiara is starting to trail behind even the new gen, and needs that kind of attention right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:34:51 2021 No.11965705 >>11965611 newfagchama... EN managers have in the past been explicitly stated as not being Japanese, go through the archive and look for soraposter's breakdown on it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:37:06 2021 No.11965844 >>11965705 Wasn't Kiara's manager specifically described as Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:39:15 2021 No.11965942 >>11965844 Nope. She's also most likely the only personal manager who's details are known. Her work ethic may as well be peak Japanese, but she herself is not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:40:07 2021 No.11965980 >>11965844 >>2541539 >Side note: English talent managers are also required to live in Japan, but not to be Japanese; it's noted that all current English management staff is made up of non-Japanese members.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:40:42 2021 No.11966010

>>11965844
The J in Jenma does not stand for japanese. And the women already got doxed anyway.

Also it's not "Kiara's (personal) manager" that's blocking the collab. Personal managers like Jenma are really more like glorified assistants (and by everything we've been told Jenma is a sweetheart anyway), no the decision is made higher up the chain.

Probably starts with an "O" and looks like a tranny...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 03:49:05 2021 No.11966503 >>11966010 I still remember Kiara gushing over how much work Jenma did to try and get her channel back back in december. It's always seemed like Jenma is like an advocate, rather than a handler

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:00:16 2021 No.11967299

>>11965587
It's perfectly understandable with Vshojo collabs though

>>11966010
It might be Omega or someone higher up (not Yagoo) if Kiara is salty about it we will know I guess it's not like she didn't shit on him in the past

>>11961753
Well Niji EN fans largely recruit from Holo EN tourists so there is a risk of bleading viewers by giving them more exposure, more so than with Vshojo that streams on twitch and have a rather different vibe.
On the niji side there are many hololive haters, Vtuber hipsters etc. that would hate the idea and management might feel like the way things are going losing them is just too much of a risk.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:05:16 2021 No.11967687

>>11966503
Of course managers pushing the talent around is a myth created by chuuba newfags, of course they need to have a good relation with the talent if they don't they get fired and we know that at least on the JP side quite a few of them were replaced for one reason or another, with this kind of stuff they mostly serve as middleman between their talent and the management rather than making decisions on their own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:05:32 2021 No.11967708 If her surprise is a cover of sand planet I might finally have to sub to that other account...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:08:30 2021 No.11967933 >>11967708 >hes not subbed to the other account and hes not following that other accounts social medias NGMI. And you call yourself KFP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:11:34 2021 No.11968154 >>11967933 Sorry for not training the algorithms the way you want them.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:17:02 2021 No.11968496

>>11967687
nta, but there are a few holos who have talked about their immediate personal managers being shit to them, either useless, disinterested, or even borderline abusive (and that's not even getting into the shitshow with Mel etc.). Though fortunately that seems to be mostly stories of the past, and managers can and have been changed out for better people in the present, and most talents now have a good relationship with their managers (or at least nothing to complain about onstream), though Kiara and Jenma seem to be an extra good pair, even among that.

But yeah, your general point still stands, the personal managers are usually not the ones who are making the big bad decisions themselves, they are mostly just handing down what someone even higher up has decided.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:19:48 2021 No.11968677 >>11966010 Yeah, Kiara speaks so fondly of Jenma, no way this wasn't omegalul being a complete fuckass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:20:54 2021 No.11968739 >>11967933 Nta, but I once did and felt bad about it so I blocked all of the other accounts

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:30:09 2021 No.11969239 Damn, this choreo is great, I unironically enjoy the content on this channel that is not related to Hololive Inc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:43:10 2021 No.11969923 uhh.. yab??? https://streamable.com/0h7m69

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:44:24 2021 No.11969972 >>11969923 Maybe it was a tease about a future Pomu collab that omegatranny shat down

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 04:46:51 2021 No.11970095 >>11967933 >He doesn't have 3 of her e-mail addresses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 05:23:26 2021 No.11971771 >>11969972 Honestly, she just enjoys the song, and will randomly break out in song when the mood hits her. Current or past rrats are irrelevant in this case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 05:33:36 2021 No.11972200 Do you think it's true the romor that Kiara ate Subaru's pussy while she was in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 05:34:48 2021 No.11972264 >>11972200 Absolutely

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 05:51:40 2021 No.11972971 Did she really say Management shot down the collab? Not a member so I only have the streamable to go off of, but it sounded like it could've been shot down by either the other party or the other party's management.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 05:56:58 2021 No.11973118

>>11972971
Sounds like she just says "I was turned down", so it could be holo management, Niji management (assuming she was talking about Niji here? I also am just going off the streamable) or the other talent herself. Well, if it was Pomu I doubt Pomu herself told her to fuck off but it could easily have been management on the Niji side, though I'm not really sure why they would do that considering they've been pretty open with other collabs and Pomu would probably get a good boost from a collab like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:00:45 2021 No.11973249 >>11973118 If it WAS Pomu I wonder if they'll just stop talking altogether now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:01:50 2021 No.11973280 >>11973249 Seems like they're still interacting on Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1452472533891043329 https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1452477416811728899

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:05:00 2021 No.11973409 >>11973280 I hope it stays that way. Logically it's probably all PR and kayfabe but it just does my schizo mind good to see Kiara having her as a friend, ya feel?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:08:43 2021 No.11973510 Jwu how was the phasmo collab and how were the threads?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:15:02 2021 No.11973711

>>11973510
best part of the phasmo collab was before the game started and Kiara's attempt at a mini zatsu after it ended. there's some funny moments in the middle but overall pretty boring. I think phasmo is a boring game to watch personally, but I understand that it is halloween so spooky co-op games are in vogue again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:18:01 2021 No.11973807 >>11973711 Hey atleast they have fun talking together

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:41:25 2021 No.11974684 >>11973711 >Attempt at a mini zatsu Did mori have to hurry because of her watchalong or what happened? Gonna be afew hours before i will be able to watch the vod

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:42:31 2021 No.11974720 >>11973711 How were kiara and fauna? Isn't this their first collab together?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:44:01 2021 No.11974764

>>11974684
no mori was actually pretty responsive, it was more that fauna and bae were somewhat unresponsive. in fauna's case it sounded like she might have been distracted by her old cat and bae was barely responsive from how scared she got playing the game it seems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:44:46 2021 No.11974797 >>11974720 Idk I don’t really like it fauna didn’t even talk much

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:46:00 2021 No.11974840

>>11974720
I don't think I recall fauna really talking much. I've actually mostly just watched her solo streams so I can't verify but some of the anons who've watched her collabs seem to say her quieting down in anything larger than a 1-on-1 is common so this might be another case of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:46:53 2021 No.11974870 Maybe Kiara would be more happy in NijiEN It would hurt not to be part of Holo but if she's happy then I wouldn't mind her switching company. Anyone else feel the same?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:47:56 2021 No.11974917 >collab shut down NOOOOOO the cock rating stream with vice president Ina, damn Omegatranny hating on dicks again! It's still kinda impressive, prime rrat material without anything to go on. What if it was Selphy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:48:35 2021 No.11974943 >>11974764 Is bae worse with horror games than kiara? Now i want a horror collab with these two

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:51:43 2021 No.11975050

>>11974917
ooh now that's a juicy rat, unlikely but it would explain why she said "turned down" instead of something more aimed at management. she might've thought they were on friendlier terms than they were. I still think it's pomu tho
>>11974943
apparently towards the end Bae said something about losing feeling in her arms because of how scared she was and for like the last part of the stream she just kinda whimpered. funnily enough Kiara took the game in stride since it's pretty jank, and most of the moments of her getting scared came from things like someone opening a door when she didn't expect rather than the whole ghost element.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:51:47 2021 No.11975051 >>11974720 Tenchou tried to build a rapport with Fauna after the game, talking about her cats with her, but there wasn't really any chemistry, honestly the funniest part was Bae dying but being the best at actually finding ghosts

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 06:51:55 2021 No.11975058

Kiara seems to be getting more and more lonley since council dropped. She needs to approach the rest of EN and voice her concerns. She needs someone in Hololive to talk to on a regular basis but she seems afraid to take the initiative. Instead she keeps watching Netflix and isolating herself. I know the timezone is a problem but there is nothing anyone can do about that at this moment.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:08:33 2021 No.11975634

>>11975058
I can imagine how frustrating it must be, especially if she came into hololive expecting to be able to do things like the talents in JP used to. In general I feel like the way HoloEN is managed is so removed from how JP VTubers used to be. HololiveJP seems to have less external collabs these days as well.
It's a bit sad, coming from the days where company boundaries were less important.
I don't know if there is much she can do though. Sadly times have changed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:13:42 2021 No.11975786 >>11975634 If you really want her to be happy then we should tell her to leave hololive and join niji instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:14:26 2021 No.11975811 >>11974917 Did she not say that the shut down collab was with someone she connected deeply? That already rules out Selphy because they at best are on slightly better than neutral terms. (Which is still better than before, to be fair)

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:20:45 2021 No.11976010

>>11975058
Perhaps lonesome relative to her personal expecations, since I'd say Myth hasn't particularly changed and Takamori was more of a gradual drift due to the distance. She's aware of how most of the branch have/will improptu collab way past her reasonable hours. Becoming senpai to a new branch gen and hitting the 1 year mark has surely made Myth retrospective and pensive about future goals.

>>11974870
>>11975786
Assuming this is not bait, I acknowledge there are freedoms in Niji she'd enjoy, but ultimately the satisfaction of being in Hololive far outweigh them. She still has many goals that only remain possible as a Holo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:24:22 2021 No.11976128 >>11976010 >goals that only remain possible as a Holo Like what? She's not a 2view so even if she switches company, all her fans will follow her.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:30:30 2021 No.11976322

>>11975786
>>11976010
Think so as well, ultimately I think at some point she may be happier if she goes the Coco/Kson route, because she seems to have a good idea what she wants to do, that doesn't need management, but now is definitely not the time for that, if she wants to achieve her goals.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:31:21 2021 No.11976346

>>11976128
like being in hololive dipshit, why do none of you ever get this simple fact? myth applied when holo EN was predicted to be a small failure, and did so out of a sincere desire to be apart of something they liked and also mori applied. Acting like they can fully experience the breadth of the holo culture that drew them into the company in the first place as an indie is disingenuous at best and downright fucking retarded at worst.
You ever rent a theater for a 3D concert? Pretty fucking expensive, but there are some indies who've done it. You ever get together dozens of friends and colleagues and do the same thing? No, because you'd have a hell of a time getting a team to produce that. Hololive has its downsides, but you have to be monumentally stupid if you think Kiara can accomplish everything she wants without hololive.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:33:36 2021 No.11976413

>>11976128
Collaborations with Holomem she respects, 3D debut and other milestone events alongside Myth. I'm not blind to the opportunities she can still achieve as an indie, but walking away from HoloEN as a founding talent is no light choice. If there's any time to grit her teeth to achieve as much as she can, it's now when she has the energy and will to do so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:35:16 2021 No.11976461 >why did the idolfag join the idol company nijieggs, your not being retarded reps...

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 07:44:12 2021 No.11976699

She seems to be afraid to start impromptu anything. All her impromptu collabs are either initiated by someone else or where explicit open invitation. At this point she needs to either get up and stream earlier or stay with the crazy late schedule she has now if she wants to be part of these impromptu collabs.She should also be more flexible with her schedule. Earlier she was lamenting that she couldn't be a part of collabs since they were scheduled after she had her schedule. She should not be afraid to move stuff around if she wants to be apart of these group collabs.Its not fair and I know that but as long as 10 of the 11 members live in the timezones they do she will always have this problem unless she is the one that organizes a group collab. I just wish she would open up to her branch mates about being lonely

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Anonymous Mon Oct 25 08:31:54 2021 No.11977908

>>11976699
>She seems to be afraid to start impromptu anything. All her impromptu collabs are either initiated by someone else or where explicit open invitation.

The Flare mc collab was pretty much initiated by Kiara, she was the one who made first contact, asked if she could show Flare around, took the lead in suggesting to voice chat etc. If Kiara didn't make those first steps and just left her, Flare would have just let her go and be too afraid to reach out to her on her own (japanese "uuh sorry I wouldn't want to impose..." autism).

But sure, in general such impromptu Kiara collabs are pretty rare, or rather it seems that way especially lately since Council came along and showed everyone how easy it is to just casually drop by each others voice chat if you meet. (tbf, that was not just a Kiara issue, Myth in general during their first year was pretty reserved with each other, you could count the "spontaneous" collabs on one hand, before Council appeared and somehow now everyone (but Kiara) has them seemingly every other day). You can argue about how much of that is truly on the Council girls being just more open vs the Myth girls being more reserved previously, or mostly just down to the simple fact that with more people in your group there's simply more chances and opportunities of multiple people being up at the same time therefore more impromptu collabs happen just naturally. Anyway, as was already discussed to death (and even Kiara mentioned it herself), what isolates her mostly is timezones. Like you said, until we finally get some more goddamn EU holos up in this bitch (so never, thx Omegatranny) one "solution" would be to just adapt to the circumstances and switch her lifestyle to one of the other two timezones, either NA time or JP time, to get at least a higher interaction chance. It sucks, but it is what it is.

As for why she "seems afraid to initialize" to you, it doesn't really seem that way to me, but if you feel that way, maybe it's because she let the schizos who complain about her being "overbearing" get to her and has some subconscious reluctance against reaching out and "intruding" for fear of being called a "leech" or whatever. It's stupid of course (no talent would think that about her, and 99% of the audience also doesn't mind, it's just a few insignificant whiners in the cesspool corners of the internet like here, so fuck em, but with her egosearching tendencies she can't help but come across them and maybe let some of that get to her), but it can be overcome by just enough opportunities and practice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 08:39:20 2021 No.11978051 Honestly outside the big minecraft arc, impromptu collabs aren't as common as you guys make out. You might get something more notable than meeting in minecraft (which happens with Kiara) once a week. That's one in total not everyone getting one.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 08:40:39 2021 No.11978082 >>11977908 Was it not Flare who asked for VC?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 08:41:00 2021 No.11978085

>>11977908
>she was the one who made first contact, asked if she could show Flare around, took the lead in suggesting to voice chat etc.
Flare asked for help on twitter (In Japanese, so pretty much only Kiara or Irys could have helped)
Kiara was waiting for her at the portal, yes
But, Flare was the one who asked for VC and asked for a tour

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 08:47:19 2021 No.11978244 >>11978085 Basically Kiara needs to take a leap of faith. And realise the others want to spend time with her one way or another. She just needs a kick up up the ass in the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 08:56:46 2021 No.11978497 There's always a bunch of retards that come into this thread whenever she has a late night stream. Such a shit board

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:06:27 2021 No.11978714 >pomu >kson >selphy Does anyone remember Momo? Anyone at all?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:17:38 2021 No.11978983

>>11978714
Momojelly from Shadowverse? Yes, but eh...
She was nice, if a little bit bland, and aside from being happy that chimken had a good time with another new person, no one was really clamoring for more collabs with her (nothing against her, like I said, mostly just because people couldn't give less of a fuck about SV), so I don't see how she's relevant in this current conversation.

But okay, let's entertain the thought just for you, what would make you think it would be Momo she was talking about? Do you really think it was her that Kiara had a "special connection" with, and was really eager to collab again? And why would a Momo collab be blocked (consider they collabed already before), and by whom for what reason?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:18:14 2021 No.11979000 >>11978714 Momo would be a nice collab. At this point all people are going to do is speculate ad Infinitum

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:23:32 2021 No.11979106

>>11978714
Yeah I still do, it's her cheering on Kiara that really made the Shadowverse tournament memorable. Now being realistic, Momo isn't high on the list of priorities or collabs to arrange. Provided she's still active in the community or remotely aware of recent activities, I'd still be interested in seeing them collab. The problem is a Shadowerse coaching stream was really the only obvious collab opportunity and I don't see Kiara returning to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:24:30 2021 No.11979124 >pomu >kson >selphy >momo Was she even talking about anything recent? She was talking about EU and British just moments before. Maybe she was just referring back to the whole Veibae drama.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:31:05 2021 No.11979267 What's the reason she wanted to take a vacation to Amsterdam? What even is in Amsterdam that she can't find closer to the apartment?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:32:12 2021 No.11979286 >>11979267 Nobody knows where she is going. She just said she will leave the country to meet up with someone she never met before. Chat then just guessed Amsterdam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:34:58 2021 No.11979346 >>11979286 Ah, for some reason I skipped over that. Well hopefully she has a good vacation, the fact that it's supposedly a short trip is a little sad

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:40:29 2021 No.11979471

>>11973510
A damn reminder that Kiara is the best Zatsu partner you could ever hope to have and is woefully under utilised in that department. I don't care what anyone says, but if that podcast Mori plans on doing does take guests. She would be perfect since it would be at a good time for her. That and taking away the /u/ shipping, they are great together. This collab was really carried by Takamori.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 09:46:15 2021 No.11979613 >>11979471 Please no, this week is already enough wigger reaper, my tolerance is already at its limit for the next months

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 10:44:14 2021 No.11980813 >>11955614 frogg

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:09:01 2021 No.11981353

>>11972971
I'm going to rrat here a bit, but Kiara said that she won't say specifically who barred her from the collab. Usually Kiara is VERY open about such things, openly saying stuff about management, etc, so if it was a manager, she'd likely say it.
I think Omega himself stepped in and told her to not have a collab.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:10:25 2021 No.11981385 >>11965262 HololiveJP and HoloEN are different branches, governed by different people. HoloEN is basically owned by Omega, who's the producer of HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:11:21 2021 No.11981407 >I'm not gonna say by who it was denied So this pretty much confirms it was Omegatranny?? Nobody else that can shut down collab requests has an "identity" to be mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:11:27 2021 No.11981412 >>11964425 >>11967299 >Unless it was a more complicated situation and say Omega was fine but some higher up blocked it There's literally no "higher up" in the Holoen than omega.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:19:35 2021 No.11981623 Just ask for a Pomu collab next time she streams Depending on her answer we at least will know if it was her or someone else

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:39:21 2021 No.11982077

>option 1
It’s about Veibae way back and she just doesn’t want to revive the drama

>option 2
It’s about Pomu and it’s cover’s fault, but for some reason she can’t talk about it. (Omega?)

>option 3
It’s about Pomu but it’s NijiEN’s management who blocked it, so Kiara can’t talk about it because it’s very different from shitting on your own management

>option 4
It’s an indie (Momo, Selphy, Kson) and it was shut down by Cover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:48:28 2021 No.11982288 >>11982077 I cant think of any reason for Option 4 being a thing, except obviously for kSon She already collabed with JP "indies", why have other criteria for western ones?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:49:19 2021 No.11982312 I love Kiara. I hope she doesn't burn out. I understand the feeling of being the one to initiate everything and organize everything.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:51:53 2021 No.11982379

>>11981412
I refuse to believe that Omegatranny has the highest seat in the EN branch. Japanese companies tend to have a habit of overgrown management ladders, so chances are he also reports to someone inside EN. He also posts his inane bullsit things on Twitter which is pretty unfit for an executive member. I think he's just a manager higher up on the ladder with a megalomaniac ego and I'm still surprised no one has tried to bully him into irrelevance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:53:23 2021 No.11982411 >>11982379 You know how it is with businesses. No-one bothers to look closely if the business unit is doing well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:56:32 2021 No.11982484 >>11982379 Feel free to believe whatever rrat makes you feel good about yourself.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 11:57:18 2021 No.11982497

>>11982379
If Cover was a multinational I could see every branch headed by a Japanese executive. I would not be surprised if the EN Producer is the most senior EN position, but he's obviously still reportable to some JP exec in Cover. Unless Omega was embellishing details, they did say they were the first EN staff at its humble beginnings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:00:44 2021 No.11982579 >wants to discuss management going ons >can't be bothered because every fucking discussion will inevitably by falseflaggers obsessed with Omega >will get accused of being a corpo bootlicker otherwise I want to kill myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:01:20 2021 No.11982598 >>11982579 please do so

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:02:53 2021 No.11982630 >>11982579 It obviously is Omegatrannies fault you faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:02:57 2021 No.11982634 >>11982598 Sorry I want to talk about things like a mature adult instead of being either an insane faggot obsessed with a vtweeter or devolving into a /vt/ sister

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:04:45 2021 No.11982669 >>11982598 I would love too, but I am unironically too cowardly to do that. >>11982630 Can you at least think about how it's almost too conveninent to place the blame on Omega... almost as if that was the entire purpose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:06:02 2021 No.11982700 >>11982634 >Sorry I want to talk about things like a mature adult instead Now you're just fucking with me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:07:26 2021 No.11982744 File: 203 KB, 480x401, 1620835092396.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11982700 I don't know, every single instance of these discussions always turn out to be gossip, and I fucking hate gossip.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:15:44 2021 No.11983007

>>11982077
I'd like to think it's about Vei or something, and collab with Pomu is still possible, but I can't make myself believe it.
Kiara hasn't mentioned Vei in a long time, unlike Pomu. Just recently she had been discussing ideas for a collab with her.
Also, check out the chat when Kiara says "yeah, yeah": https://streamable.com/3ykpbk

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:17:28 2021 No.11983064

>>11982744
NTA, but humor me. How do you think management fares these days? Regardless of Omega, my opinion is not very high of them. Rigs are very low-effort, the lack of effort put into the official channels is saddening, projects are mostly done by the talents and their direct managers, there are constant issues with Youtube and permissions are an ever-recurring joke. The management's job should be to ease the burdens on the talents, not add new ones on them.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:17:54 2021 No.11983077

>>11982288
Apparently Mori needed to work insanely hard to get that Milky collab and they are friends who live in the same timezone.
Tamaki and his vTuber interviews are a good way to advertise for HoloEN. Meanwhile a random indie is not.
I can see professional chuuni Omega being a massive numberfag with these things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:19:04 2021 No.11983116 >>11982744 >gossip We have multiple chuubas speaking about omega, especially Kiara, we have an interview with him, and a general idea how the shit goes on. The one who's being immature here is you. Moreover, you're also delusional.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:20:19 2021 No.11983166 >>11983007 I see a single "Momo" in chat and I will use it to feed my rrat!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:21:18 2021 No.11983186 >>11983064 >>11983116 Don't piss on my back and call it rain. This is just an excuse for you sisters wanting to see Kiara graduate.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:21:36 2021 No.11983196

I hope everything goes well during the upcoming Minecraft collab and that the splits won't get too crazy. But then again, they probably will. Either way, hope they both have fun. It felt like both of them were really eager to talk with each other during the Phasmophobia collab.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:26:44 2021 No.11983381

I really need to go back and rewatch the A-chan holotalk, but IIRC she talked about how managers and her especially work as a lightning rod.
Giving the drama and other issues a face to focus on instead of the talents.
Omega could use some of that, aside from the problems >we have with it as vtweeter/tranny/management HATE/etc. Step up or step down or something like that. Dont make my chicken sad and give up on music!

Idol union doko?
Does KFP have one?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:28:22 2021 No.11983444

>>11982379
Im glad people are starting to wake up to his bullshit.

We need orcschizo but like omegaschizo. Maybe not by sending cat gore to his marshmallow but at least question him about his inane decisions. But he’ll end up answering useless stuff about final fantasy and dark souls. Why he doesn’t just work on holo alternative is beyond me.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 12:38:55 2021 No.11983846

My rrat: Holo and Niji's relationship soured after Anycolor recently openly played against Cover when they prevented them from getting permissions for FromSoftware games (when an agreement was almost reached). After that, managers forbid any new collabs between them unless it would be of obvious benefit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:00:02 2021 No.11987459 I wonder what her next council collab will be? I haven't finished the Member's only, yet, forgive me if she has answered that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:10:20 2021 No.11987939 >>11987459 Next week looks more JP heavy with Flare and Aqua Gladly I speak German so I can get at least a little bit out of the Flare collab

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:14:26 2021 No.11988157

>>11987459
If you're asking one-on-one, I'm thinking Sana, she'll probably be back in two weeks and Kiara often speaks fondly of her, so I imagine they had something planned before Sana's break. That, or they get Keywee permissions and she'll start a playthrough with Mumei.
But I'm not getting my hopes up of a collab happening soon. Kiara already has her schedule planned out for the next week basically, so I imagine she's full for weeks for content again, even without a longplay.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:14:35 2021 No.11988164

>>11987939
Have you noticed that Kiara has been "translating" into English during her JP collabs a bit more these past few months? During the Minecraft tours there were a few times where she just stopped to explain what was happening to her EN viewers. It's made them more watchable

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:15:17 2021 No.11988197 >>11987459 She didn't talk about Council collabs, but god I hope she can do one with Sana when she returns

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:17:12 2021 No.11988299

>>11987939
I'm looking forward to that, I love it when she talks to the JP talents. If we're lucky, Flare and Aqua will be regular friends with Kiara after this, since both girls were so happy with her.
>>11988157
>>11988197
I hope so. I have a feeling they might resonate on a few topics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:17:55 2021 No.11988344 >>11988164 Only if it is also on her channel Flare tour was pretty much 100% JP And she wants to convince both Flare and Aqua to do the collabs on their channels

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:18:44 2021 No.11988382 >>11988197 Sana or Fauna would be nice. I hope she also does another with Baelz. The latter sounded fairly disappointed with Phasmo. We know how Kiara is in her quest to make sure people have fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:20:41 2021 No.11988480 >>11988299 I think I am not the only one when saying that I was surprised that she got along really well with Aqua From all I heard of the onion I feared this holotalk would be a little disaster

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:24:37 2021 No.11988695 >Pumpkin Carving with camera Am I the only one who gets extremely nervous about this shit? She's going to at least get a non-reflective knife, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:26:11 2021 No.11988761 >>11988695 Have faith in your tenchou, the other cooking streams have been fine

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:29:12 2021 No.11988896

>>11988197
Got real sad when Sana left. I enjoy her infectious positive attitude and was really looking forward to her usual calm personality mixing with Kiara's general hyperness during collabs.
Also I love Holoscope and am always interested in listening to how someone interoperates pseudoscience like astrology or personality tests (like the BIG 5 or Myers Briggs), so I'm excited for her to come back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:29:41 2021 No.11988919 >>11988480 >From all I heard of the onion I feared this holotalk would be a little disaster Never believe rrats. There was no legitimate reason to think holotalk with Aqua would go badly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 14:32:01 2021 No.11989032 >>11988695 I was only slightly nervous for the chocolate one nearly a year back because that was her first time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:03:53 2021 No.11990343 >>11950165 Hope she's resting well

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:04:18 2021 No.11990357 >>11988695 I vaguely remember her talking about getting knives for that. Maybe these strange rainbow things?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:08:51 2021 No.11990520 >Back 4 Blood is scheduled for 4AM in Kiara's time Jesas, no wonder she skipped it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:12:47 2021 No.11990700 >>11990520 Ame organised that one right? She would probably scheduled it at a different time if Kiara was part of it. But this way is easier for everyone. Kiara is part of four to five collabs this week anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:12:55 2021 No.11990704 >>11990520 There's only so much you can fit in. I imagine it's frustrating being the type that is typically organised ahead of time when it comes to schedules. Since a lot of things at the minute seem to be fairly last minute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:19:03 2021 No.11990915 >>11988695 at this point does it really matter anymore? At this point everyone knows

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:26:30 2021 No.11991182 >>11990357 Ceramic knife would work. How hard is a pumpkin anyway?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:34:54 2021 No.11991472

>I don't care where you go
>Just as long as you come back
>And bring some milk
KIARA'S DAD CONFIRMED FOR WALKING OUT ON THE FAMILY! Sure takes a long time for some people to go to the store to get milk, huh?
Yes, I know this is a reference to the Uno collab shit, although I'm not sure if it was something earlier than that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 15:51:56 2021 No.11992095 >>11988695 I have faith in that she won't reveal herself. I have less faith in her not fucking up in the carving process.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:36:39 2021 No.11993652 >>11991472 ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:42:22 2021 No.11993830 File: 197 KB, 1378x1378, garfield top.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:45:15 2021 No.11993911 For the horny https://files.catbox.moe/y0ir5x.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:47:41 2021 No.11993976 >>11993911 Saw this on global but thread died. Artist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:49:25 2021 No.11994023 >>11993976 https://twitter.com/KuroeDrawsLewds/status/1452582837329092618

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:51:45 2021 No.11994102

Question - let's say, hypothetically, I was able to get Jim Davis to record a special message for Kiara as a Christmas gift (barring some other occasion). How would I bring it to the attention of management? Would I just get him to tweet at her and hope for the best? I know Discordfags have done this before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:52:56 2021 No.11994137 >>11993911 So Kronii's the designated futa of Council now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:54:04 2021 No.11994192 >>11994023 Danke schön

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:55:36 2021 No.11994234

>>11993652
Just listening through the SC from the collab and a moment came up where she started talking about #WOKE and #YOKE and went out to say those lines.
The dad thing is that there's an old joke that dad 'went to the store' to get something to describe a deadbeat dad who walked out on the family.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 16:57:33 2021 No.11994301 >>11994102 I think the Cover webpage might have something for this. Push comes to shove, you could always ask in /morig/, it was one of theirs that got Reuben Langdon for Gura.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:04:06 2021 No.11994512 >>11994102 The dude who made garfield is still alive? What're the odds

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:05:06 2021 No.11994550 >>11993911 Much appreciated. Kiara getting fucked by girls is always welcome for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:09:32 2021 No.11994696 >>11994301 Tonybones seems like a cool dude. I wonder if he actually comes here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:09:39 2021 No.11994700 >>11994102 Anon, if you can pull it off. I'm sure Kiara will get a kick out of it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:15:43 2021 No.11994912

Didn't kiara say she was sad she could not join all those collabs this week? I checked the shedules of the others that have posted shedules on twitter and there really aren't that many. I think she has more colabs planned this week than most others. Was that just kiaras fear of feeling left out again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:17:12 2021 No.11994976 >>11994550 >girls

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:19:33 2021 No.11995063 >>11994912 It's probably because it is so rare for others to invite her/have an open invitation collab like that and yet she had to decline. Finally someone takes the innitiative like she always wanted and she has to turn them down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:22:09 2021 No.11995165 >>11995063 God really is a Kiara anti

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:24:06 2021 No.11995230 Couldn't make it to the Phasmo collab. Besides more talk of EN Mangement being shit was this collab fun to watch or should I skip?

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:27:12 2021 No.11995347

>>11995230
Pretty forgettable collab.
Bae was too scared to do much, Fauna was silent most of them time and Mori tried to carry the game while Kiara tried to carry the stream.
None of them knew what they were doing and the most entertaining moments were Kiara spooking herself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:28:01 2021 No.11995365 >>11995230 Skip besides the beginning and end honestly, the good bits in the gameplay are probably timestamped. Besides a few screams all I really remember is her being a mommy to Bae. She also did some SC reading after.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:28:42 2021 No.11995384 >>11995165 Hold on kiara have antis when did that happen

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:30:33 2021 No.11995435 File: 1.31 MB, 1788x2232, 20211025_121835.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm loving this little wave of art of Kiara dressed like Alice. chicks with knives are hot

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:33:22 2021 No.11995517 >>11995230 Kiara and mori had some good moments together but bae was way to scared to really talk. She said she even lost feeling in her arms because she was so scared. Fauna was extremly quiet and i think she is better in 1 on 1 collabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:35:03 2021 No.11995581 >>11995494 Can't wait

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:35:18 2021 No.11995594 >>11995230 You could skip it if you don’t have time but I personally was entertained enough from it. Council’s presence in it was weak though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:38:09 2021 No.11995690 >>11995230 I just finished watching the Collab part of the stream and holy shit what a trainwreck, the council part may as well have not been there. You will only hear Kiara and Mori.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:39:22 2021 No.11995735 >>11995494 Emotional support shark ftw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:42:15 2021 No.11995814 >>11990915 Exactly this. I don't get why people are still making such a big deal out of this. Fans that want to know, know and her antis also probably know.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:44:48 2021 No.11995887

>>11995230
Its short and entertaining enough I would recommend at least listening to it in the background. Like others have said the only "must catch" part of the stream is the beginning and end where they chatted a bit, and if you wanna listen to Kiara super chat after.

Takamori def carried the collab, bae crying the whole time was cute, but you can only say so much about that. Wish Fauna didn't have to care for her old cat the whole time cause that made her pretty much non existent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:47:52 2021 No.11995992 >>11995814 >>11990915 I think its about adhering to her contract. Cover is pretty strict with roommate stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:49:29 2021 No.11996048 >>11995735 I 100% expect Gura to actually make spook worse for shits and giggles, regret it immediately as Kiara breaks down and then panik while trying to calm Kiara down

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:49:55 2021 No.11996055

>>11995347
>>11995365
>>11995517
>>11995594
>>11995690
Well that's disappointing after the fun Among Us collab. Hopefully in the future they can play Worms or something more fun in a future collab. Do they need permissions to play Tabletop Simulator and permissions to use Uno on that game? I saw that's how NijiEN played it recently and was able to include 5 players in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:51:58 2021 No.11996124 >>11996048 I think the whole point of the stream is that gura wanted to see kiara really scared so she is propably going to laugh her ass of

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:54:11 2021 No.11996187 >>11995992 Cover would be quite retarded to fire their 2nd Myth top superchat earner because she accidentally showed her face or something. But again it's Cover we're talking about so we never know.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:56:25 2021 No.11996252 [DELETED]

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Hey i want to ask something calli seem happy about kiara at jump kings but if you go to 2:46:40 when she said thanks omega it seem like she dont even care about omega look how she said it why

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:57:47 2021 No.11996296 >>11996187 They would't fire her but they would bonk her and kiara cares about stuff like that. Also disappointing jenma would drive kiara to suicide

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:57:53 2021 No.11996297

>>11995814
Any reasons for why Cover thinks it's important aside vTubers being seperate from their roommates is one of the most important aspects of the medium.
Just look how much damage orcshizo did back in the days by making up rrats about Kiara's roommate. Thankfully her work was mostly contained in here but parts of it still survive to this day and breached containment.
Stiffling shit like that is important to starve out drama niggers as much as possible.
If vTubers don't exist outside of easily confimable stuff such as streams or social media stuff the gossipping trolls have less ammunition to derail every discussion into mudslinging about roommate shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 17:59:25 2021 No.11996345 I tried watching her debut but I cant It pains me how much more soothing her voice used to be

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:04:40 2021 No.11996490

>>11996297
Coco still did occasional roommate streams on Milfdom when she was still in Hololive and Noel's roommate still does ASMR on her own channel. If even Matsuri can come out the other side after her roommate's menhera episode with Ricardo I think Kiara should be fine. If they didn't bonk her before I don't see a reason for them to do it now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:05:20 2021 No.11996517 >>11996252 No one fucking cares you ESL retard. Go back to your private twitter and bitch at wind there

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:06:49 2021 No.11996561 >>11996252 Stop coming here yazeed, it isn't good for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:08:33 2021 No.11996600 >>11996561 Shut sign fine

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:09:29 2021 No.11996623 I haven't kept up much with Kiara but I heard her speak in past tense about Japan during Holotalk. Did she move away?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:13:20 2021 No.11996726 >>11996623 Comachama?? Yes she left Japan months ago and has been back in Austria for a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:15:08 2021 No.11996784 >>11996623 How did you manage to dodge that information since like february? Especially with everybody talking about her being the only EU holo all the time.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:29:16 2021 No.11997239 So hear me out. Holotori but it's payday 2. Featuring all four members.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:30:18 2021 No.11997276

>>11996055
If they can't get permission for tabletop simulator, they could maybe ask for permission on game board arena, there is "solo" on that site (basically a copy of uno) and you can play up to 10 players. Also there is like a hundred games on that site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:31:23 2021 No.11997317 >>11997239 >So hear me out. Holotori but it's Worms again. Featuring all four members.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:33:36 2021 No.11997401 So hear me out. Holotori but its them taking turns riding my dick. Featuring all four members.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:34:56 2021 No.11997429 Hear out, Holotori but bird ladies judge how far me throw rock

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:37:44 2021 No.11997515 File: 264 KB, 890x796, grug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you know hear me? good. me have secks with holotori with me big club

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:39:10 2021 No.11997561 >>11996726 >>11996784 Since she ha been streaming at JP-friendly times I figured she was still there. No idea how I missed that if it's been that long. Of course she's the only European Holo regardless as she's the only one who was born in Europe.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:40:20 2021 No.11997602

>>11996297
The positives of the roomates being known outweight the negatives for the chuba desu. It's better for them in term of work recognition. It's always nice to have a plan b, either roomate or PL, to go back to so they don't depend entirely on their company.

Also I don't get the point you're making with ammunition for the schizos. From your own confession schizos digging up roomate shit still happens even if corporate tries to separate things. And of course it does, since every single member that had a roomate appeared publicly online can be find within a 3 minutes google search anyway, even if the roomate is "hidden". Every dedicated antis already know and dug everything they can. Drama will happen regardless. It's not like roommate stuff wasn't disscussed every single day on this very board even with the rule against it.
At least if the roommate is known, she can defend herself publicly and call out the fake bullshit if she wants to.

It's not an "important aspects" of the medium it's just a tradition that backfired many times for the VA. The whole Kizuna Ai incident happened because her roomate was not known. That's why they decided to reveal her name to everybody in the end. Result was: she still treats Ai chan as a character and there were no dramas since then as far as I am aware. Now if even the mother of modern Vtubers can have her roommate in the open without any problems I don't see why others wouldn't be able too.

The only valid argument for no roommate is that it can break immersion for some. Maybe also in regards to equality for talents that still want to keep their roommate hidden at all cost. But even that is a stretch imo. The rest is just hypocritical bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:47:20 2021 No.11997806 >>11996055 Phasmo is a shit game and none of the girls know how to play it properly. Also Bae chose and organized it despite the fact that she’s afraid of supernatural stuff. They definitely should’ve played something else.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:55:33 2021 No.11998035

>>11996297
>Thankfully her work was mostly contained in here but parts of it still survive to this day and breached containment.
Parts like what exactly? Ive never seen a single Kiara rrat that breached this place. And believe me, ive seen countless hololive focused accounts and pages that obviously lurks /here/

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 18:56:44 2021 No.11998073

There were like hundred of streams with camera across Hololive and Kiara already had a few, the biggest yab that happened was showing feet/wrists, basically nothing so I don't know why are you still scared about chimkin doxxing herself, she prepares for these streams and risk of showing herself is low.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:01:10 2021 No.11998216 >>11998035 NTA, but I've seen people in youtube comments (not sur if they are /here/ or not) talking about how she's supposedly banned from the idol industry, how she slept with a fan and other long dead rrats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:01:10 2021 No.11998217 >>11996055 They have permission for this https://en.boardgamearena.com/ Apparently you can do uno for ten people

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:10:46 2021 No.11998537

>>11998035
I have seen people on r/hololive writing comments like "Knowing how hard Kiara's past was..." with hundreds of upvotes and few of them were even refering specific events like *that* video so I think that a lot of people know about Kiara's past and rrats accompanying it

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:11:10 2021 No.11998557

>>11998216
I also saw some shit on that reddit thread that was going around earlier today. But most of that was eggs, I think. At least going by how they write and their history on reddit (basically just memes and rrats from here). Also one of them was really into sissy hypnotism. So you know, add that one to the ever increasing of list of Kiara antis that happens to also be trannies.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:14:25 2021 No.11998648

>>11997602
>At least if the roommate is known, she can defend herself publicly and call out the fake bullshit if she wants to.

You are crying about fake bullshit, that most people dont even see unless they are here and when they are here they should be smart enough to not eat up everything. Even if she were to defend herself the people, who ate up rrats would need to hear and believe her.

I dont think responding to gossip and rumors is a great strategy because you are just signaling it gets to you, which will birth trolls, who will do it just to get a reaction. Knowing Kiara there is a big chance there would be even more drama and dramafags around her, when she gets to defend herself. Linking her personas will have the opposite effect and bring more people out of the wood work trying to farm her for lols!!! I think you dont understand the nature of the people, who spread rrats in the first place.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:19:29 2021 No.11998793

>>11997806
I fucking hate Phasmo.
At least in Minecraft, while some people complain about it being overused, it's still a chill enough game that you can have casual conversations in it (the thing we're ACTUALLY here for, I certainly am not watching them for any gameplay, I could just look up any random no commentary walkthrough video for that, I am watching because I want to see my girls interact and have fun, and the game is more often than not just a crutch at best and an active detriment at worst for that).

No one in that group actually REALLY even likes phasmo in the first place. But hurrdurr it's halloween, so I guess we have to play ~spoopy games~, there's no way around it (I hate it when chubas are forcing themselves to play something they aren't really into, just for no better reason than to fit an artificially imposed "theme", that usually mostly always ends badly, remember how Gura made her first stream Maneater because "uuuh, am shark, I guess?..." and how well that went...)

It was almost comical when the chain of misunderstandings was brought up. Kiara asking who even came up with the idea of playing Phasmo in the first place, thinking it was Mori. Mori saying no it wasn't her, she just invited Kiara to come along. Baelz confessing that she started it all, and she only came up with Phasmo because she THOUGHT that Mori liked the game (really? what made you think that?), not because she herself likes it. And Mori's answer was equally noncommittal, probably didn't have the heart to tell her she actually doesn't really care about the game, so she settled on some passive "uuh well, it's okay, I wouldn't say no if someone else offered...".
So the whole thing was basically a massive comedy of errors, everybody was just assuming someone else wanted to play this game, and no one is really all that into it themselves. Fucking bullshit, this autism, and we're stuck with a jank shit game that leaves no room for a good natural conversation to develop because everybody is too focused on the game (either fixing stuff wasting time getting it to work in the first place, figuring out the shit controls, shouting nonsense trying to get voice recognition to work, or crapping themselves over lame jumpscares etc.).

I swear to god, if I could change one thing about HoloEN, removing their retarded aversion to just doing a pure simple zatsudan collab would be the first thing on my list. I've seen it so often by now I lost count, stupid game collabs where the "game" part is always the worst thing about it, and the best parts are always when they AREN'T playing the game but before/during/after when they actually TALK to each other. More of THAT please, less of shitty games that no one (not even you, and certainly not the audience, they are just here for you) actually wants to see, but nooooo they all have this fucking unconfident idea that "aww but no one would come just to watch us talk, we have to play a game to entertain them..." attitude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:21:35 2021 No.11998866 >>11998557 Should have screenshotted it to add to the tranny egg pile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:23:04 2021 No.11998909 >>11998557 Huh? I thought reddit never talks smack about any of the girls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:24:04 2021 No.11998933 >>11998557 Ok. Did a few archive digging, do you mean this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/qf74x4/welp_so_its_true_kiara_pomu_collab_never_it_got/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:25:00 2021 No.11998961 >>11998793 what are you talking ?gura`s man eater was her best stream up to date its was ultimate kino , im still very sad she dropped that now we have to watch boring shit like DBD, also your comparison is retarded maneater 1p phasmo 4 p

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:25:31 2021 No.11998980 >>11998793 This. This entire post describes HoloEn to a T

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:28:38 2021 No.11999075 >>11998933 Yeah thats the one. You can probably still find him in there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:29:02 2021 No.11999092 >>11998793 Case in point, Ametori We Were Here Too Absolute kusoge and shit streams only saved by top tier talkin sections after the game part ended.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:30:01 2021 No.11999114 File: 797 KB, 680x700, kekyoin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11998933 >Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Hololive >0 likes

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:33:41 2021 No.11999230 >>11998933 Unironic Clipwatcher in that thread. Jesus christ. The Kiara in clips is night and day compared to her actual streams. I wish people would get that into their thick skulls already

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:48:03 2021 No.11999663

>>11998793
>It was almost comical when the chain of misunderstandings was brought up.
I'll forgive anything to Rat because she at least tried to organize some group collab. Hopefully it won't discourage her from doing more, we cannot go for another year with just Kiara and Ame organizing everything involving more then 2 people.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:50:22 2021 No.11999736

>>11998961
Gura herself said she didn't like it and only played it because she felt she had to stick to the "theme" at first, she was miserable and no one should want that from any talent. As soon as she started to play games she actually likes, she was much better.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:52:47 2021 No.11999809

>>11998793
>I swear to god, if I could change one thing about HoloEN, removing their retarded aversion to just doing a pure simple zatsudan collab would be the first thing on my list.
Please, god please. More group Zatsus. The number one and two spot in HoloMYTH full collab history are the 3D Anniversary stream and the Failed TTRPG stream. Both of those streams were good because they involved lots and lots of talking and chemistry. So many fun memories, fun moments... Those images of all the girls huddled together from both of those streams are absolutely iconic as being filled with nostalgia and emotion from people who love HoloMyth. I barely remember any of the Phasmo collabs a day or so after they happen. Granted, both collabs happened after lots of history, but if they HAVE to play a game. I would love to see a gain that facilitates interaction, not obstructs it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 19:53:07 2021 No.11999821 >>11999663 I think if Kiara finds out she was disappointed as a whole, she will try and do something about it. She's good like that.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:00:02 2021 No.12000034 >>11999809 Unironically, best thing to come out from Phasmo collab was blind popcorn testing stream idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:06:42 2021 No.12000244 >>11999809 One of my favorite stream to this day is still the fake sleepover

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:15:04 2021 No.12000504

>>11999809
It seems HoloEN just has some inane autistic aversion to doing "unstructured" content. We HAVE to have a game, because that can serve as a direction driver for any conversation (you just have to react and comment on what's happening in the game), and in a pure talking collab you'd have to come up with topics yourself on the fly, and they (wrongly) think they are not "good at it", and "no one would watch that" and that their audience is actually there for the game, not for them.

I think there's some reasonable middle ground to be reached. Okay, you're not confident enough to just do a pure improvised talking collab, so you need some kind of structure to hang on to? Just prepare some topics beforehand, make up some kind of "theme", or light "game/quiz show" process to the whole thing.

HoloJP does these frequently, often with Mio or Fubuki hosting, because they're good social facilitators. I would love to see for example a HoloEN "word wolf / taboo" game show, it's super easy to set up (there's not much to prepare than just a few list of words, you certainly don't have to set up any technical shit like with videogame collabs) and then just let the kino develop by itself naturally.

The sad thing is, HoloEN already DID do great shit like that, in the past, only sadly they seem to have let it fall to the wayside and instead got stuck in their comfortable but stale and lazy current routine of doing the same old fotm videogame collabs.
Remember the beginning, just after debut? The quiz shows? The drawing collabs? Snack tasting? Hell, even Ina and Kiara doing a fucking Arknights tier list (obviously, we wouldn't do Arknights again, but the general idea is still a great one - get someone with similar interests and geek out over a topic together). Great semi-structured non-videogame talking contents!
Ame's fish tank could've been another try at that, sadly it seems la creatividad won't get to it again, and we'll see what ever comes out of Mori/Baes "podcast" idea or if that is just more stuff to throw on the pile of halfbaked stillborn promises.
You could also see the same thing happen with HoloCouncil - in their first month, during the collab ban, they still hade (like Myth back then, pretty much the same) their own fullgroup collabs with non-videogame semi-structured talking content (quiz shows etc.), but after the collab ban was over, everybody also just fucked off into their own ventures, now all collabs are also just videogame related (either directly, as in an official scheduled collab "hey we're playing XY game together on that date" or semi-related, as in they see someone's online in minecraft an hop on voice chat. It's better than an official gameplay collab, since minecraft lends itself better to casual talking besides the game, but there's still a game happening at least somewhere in the background).

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:15:24 2021 No.12000523

>>11998648
I'm not crying about anything anon. Note that said "if she wants to". It's about the possibility, the freedom. I agree with you that most of the time responding would be a bad marketing move and menhera behaviour.
But there are smart ways to do it. "Kiara" talking about her past idol carreer in that one stream is an exemple. It prevents rrats and wild guesses to happen on that matter while slaying some already existing dumb rrats. And that would not have been possible without a roommate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:16:22 2021 No.12000555 >>12000504 the easiest way is to just play a zatzudan game like minecraft

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:26:23 2021 No.12000911 >>11998909 They are usually hidden within the reply chains. And even then, mods would often delete them.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:33:35 2021 No.12001208

>>12000523
>It prevents rrats and wild guesses to happen on that matter while slaying some already existing dumb rrats.
Remember her slaying the subaru rrat on stream and people used her addressing it as proof for its legitimacy? You might even worsen the situation by giving rrats a platform and put them into the spotlight for the originally unaware part of your audience.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:39:10 2021 No.12001445

>roommate shit
If no one knew her roommate none of the drama that followed after that would've happened and her growing period as a vtuber could've been much better and stress free.
But that's asking too much of her because she likes interacting in social media so much. That things are as they are now it's not the best outcome, but it's acceptable enough.

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:41:54 2021 No.12001570

>>12001445
Sure but there's no way someone like her could've prevented the word from getting out even if she tried her hardest.
The fact that Cover insists on hiring people with resumes means that while the people may be qualified for the job, it's harder to keep their identity a secret since they had a presence beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:43:44 2021 No.12001648 New thread in a few minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:46:48 2021 No.12001775 Well, I think this is another thread that proves that a few interesting questions can turn a thread from a shitty timeloop-fest into one that's pretty good for a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:48:34 2021 No.12001840 New thread up: >>12001828 >>12001828 >>12001828

Anonymous Mon Oct 25 20:48:47 2021 No.12001847

>>12001570
>Sure but there's no way someone like her could've prevented the word from getting out even if she tried her hardest.

I mean she's her, there's a post where she pretty much said she didn't imagine it would be out so much (that she deleted later) so it's partly her bird brain's fault.
You have people like Ina who has a way more successful past but is able to brush aside that and focus on her vtuber person without much effort.

>The fact that Cover insists on hiring people with resumes means that while the people may be qualified for the job, it's harder to keep their identity a secret since they had a presence beforehand.

I think cover's approach is leaving it up to the talent. Some talents have said out loud that they rather be appreciated for the talents they show as vtuber than the "other stuff" (aka roommate shit), and then you have people like Mori or Kiara who openly interact with people who are in their vtuber community.

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