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>> No.11981178

ccv + sc



>> No.11981205

The game resets back to the beginning every time she fails. So the stream might just become an small endurance stream. It doesn't have an ending buff I think.

>> No.11981215

Its a shit game anon. I usually finish most pekora's stream but this game filtered the shit out of me. Finale stream will work on story based game/jrpg but this is not that kind of game

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I don't think anyone is beating this today

>> No.11981239

I don't think gen 5 is mediocre. Aren't they usually above average when it comes to numbers? The only mediocre gens that I can think of are 0, 1, and 4.

>> No.11981249

I have faith Gura x Shion will

>> No.11981281

>split pov
I don't think so. Ayame guerilla will though.

>> No.11981282

Please don't reply to the resident Gen5schizo, thank you

>> No.11981303

It's split screen and it's Mario Kart. It probably won't beat it.

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will ojou finally stream again?

>> No.11981404

Moona will doing nothing on stream, number?

>> No.11981428

Maybe 4k depending on how "nothing" it will be, with the least the highest

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Readying my knees already, THIS DOESN’T SLIP TODAY!

>> No.11981653

Alright Kuzuha already won
Subaru, Gura, Shion, Miko, Fubuki and (possibly pekora sitll not finished by then) are all streaming at 8:00JST.
No way a one of them can get 28k with all those overlaps (no special event either, if only Pekora streamed minecraft)

>> No.11981655

Hello kneelposter, long time no see!
Finally decided to come out of your hole to kneel to the king on this blue moon eh?

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>> No.11981683

Miko is 50/50. She might get a buff from the recent MC sportfest.

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make my dick go full hard

>> No.11981748

Kuzuha has to win, it would be hilarious if this becomes the "Pekora Mario Kart win" situation again.

>> No.11981755

Baelz 10k! Thank god baelz doing mc stream to cover EN poor performance today

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I’m not even going to wait for the end of the day
>Kuzuha, my King, I preemptively kneel to your impeding and unavoidable victory!

>> No.11981823


1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement

I should preemptively kneel to Hololive for taking this month then.

>> No.11981835

Im having deja vu from last night

>> No.11981874

Remember when the island survival stream dropped.

>> No.11981904

From 50k to 27k? reclining, call ecelebs to save nijisanji today

>> No.11981961

MC > apex autism

>> No.11981996

I checked Fauna's entire catalouge and I'm actually impressed that her ASMR actually get very good VOD views. It might be some of the most viewed AMSR vods from vtubers ever.

>> No.11981998

Will the male collab debuff happen to Suisei?

>> No.11982041

Before the usual retards shitting on idolstuff come in, I'll just point out that's a sponsored Shinymas promo stream.

>> No.11982044

Did you know that every day beneath 25k+ and Kuzuha's feet there's dozens of sub 2k streamers in Nijisanji?
They've always needed saving. Being so top heavy is not a good sight.
Eh it'll definitely happen, but to a lesser degree for Suisei since she has already done collabs with males for a long time

>> No.11982052

Oh shit [email protected] paid collab

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Barring something unexpected I don’t think Pekora is clearing 25k with this stream. Miko and Gura/Shion will start 30 min in and may limit Peko’s ceiling

>> No.11982171

She started early to dodge the bloodbath and secure peak as high as she could in 30mnts. The struggle of having multiple top performers

>> No.11982182

>Miko and Gura/Shion will start 30 min
should've checked the stream time before doom posting anon chama

>> No.11982368

>don’t think Pekora is clearing 20k with this stream

>> No.11982384

Suisei has collabed with Roberu before.

>> No.11982386

Maybe a month later

>> No.11982389


1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 27k - Apex

A bit early, but it is what it is

>> No.11982441

Oh shit gura gonna beat pekora during jp prime time isn't she? this gon be good

>> No.11982457

King-sama I kneel

>> No.11982463

already leave a dislike

>> No.11982468

>gen 0
>Sora (pre-2019)
Even if you're just looking at current numbers, MiComet's performance pulls gen 0 out of mediocrity.

>> No.11982490

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Pekora has a 21k baseline which she rarely drops below. Her median of peaks this month is around 29k.

>> No.11982552

Niji 67k (16 streams)
Holo 32k (3 streams)

>> No.11982608

Triple the streamers but only double the views....I don't know what to say anymore

>> No.11982627

>Triple the streamers
that's over 5 times actually

>> No.11982632

anon your multiplication table reps . . .

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Today is a good day for the Kneeler gang
>Sultan, have my kneel too!

>> No.11982653

Its pekora's fault for streaming such a shitty game

>> No.11982689

>day will probably end with less than 10 10k+ holo streams
yesterday will probably be the last day holo dominates the 10k+ daily charts

>> No.11982704

Newly started streams just offset Pekora gainz. Missing about 1k to clear 20k

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>> No.11982813

Yeah nijisanji will dissolve soon

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>> No.11982876

Sirobros . . its our turn.

>> No.11982895

Ina/Matsuri Minecraft will also be in 8:00JST.
There's a free slot on 6:00JST why don't they claim it. They only Holo who use it is Rushia

>> No.11982920

>Bae pulls 12k by herself at this time slot

>> No.11982954

The last stream of this game she did drop below 20k while still playing.

She might get past 20k, but it seems to be a struggle atm the moment.

>> No.11982955

Ina Matsuri collab???

>> No.11982971

Both RatGirl and Irys have a spread enough audience to be able to succeed even on JP prime time depending on choice of stream

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>> No.11982978

*Playing Minecraft.
She can manage to pull 4-5k for Zatsu in this slot though, which is also pretty good considering she's usually streaming on top of other Holos.

>> No.11983018

JEJ, I would make a “who would win this fight” with Moona “doing nothing” but Iofi is reading SC so it’s not even a contest

>> No.11983023

Numberfags can't do math, business as usual.

>> No.11983038

Yeah Ina will be a tour guide for Matsuri on the EN Server.
Yeah not bad for rat. Its a good addition on her resume to get a collab with the numbers rabbit

>> No.11983096

Probably referring to total members, but yeah symptom of numberbrainrot

>> No.11983118

He's playing with the emperor hal

>> No.11983148

Can Ina save the menhera's numbers?

>> No.11983178

I don't think she care about her collab partner number. Both luna and towa doesn't really have good numbers yet she collab with them no?

>> No.11983183

if only her and the tree rat would stream more frequently

>> No.11983185

ina's number in jp slot is not that good

>> No.11983210

WTF is this combo?
I never thought they would collab

>> No.11983219

Its a bit early for bait...

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>> No.11983264

She peaked at 700
Decent for an ID VTuber but low for someone with almost 500k subscribers

>> No.11983355

>kneeling to 13k

>> No.11983407

That's a pretty normal phenomenon for ID. Maha5 is also like that. Indonesians like to subs but rarely coming back

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Lots of streams at the same time soon, i think Miko will be on top. No Matsuri's pov apparently.

>> No.11983477

Niji 76k (20 streams)
Holo 56k (7 streams)

>> No.11983527

lol Avoiding the Festival channel debuff.

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>> No.11983537

She's hunting for Elytra for the spotsfes, while Ina, Matsuri, Bae and (kronii the chronic nonstreamingminecraftaddict) are on the server.
That's a lot of holomem on MC at the same time outside of an event.

>> No.11983556

Not really much of a big thing, but Pekora fluctuates by roughly 500 viewers who watches every time she gets chased by that ugly pixelshit monster.

>> No.11983578

Why do you hate streaming?
Good grief. Her poor split's gonna be a mess again.

>> No.11983629

wtf they actually have a lot of subs

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>> No.11983675

>some of the most viewed
It pales in comparison to Patra

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20k status saved.

>> No.11983714

the fact that this is her furthest run so far is giving it a good bump. Expect a drop if she messes it up.

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>> No.11983758

Council could totally get 10k+ on games other than minecraft if the games weren't so shit, but they probably already played most good games. Roguelite has good replayability but it gets stale very fast unless they can turn it into a zatsudan same goes for coop games.

>> No.11983826

Really pales in comparison to Myths early months. Lazy shit, im never gonna support this bitch unless she grinds for 1 month

>> No.11983866

Not fair to compare the new kid with The Reigning Queen anon

>> No.11983868

>It might be some of the most viewed AMSR vods from vtubers ever.
She has a long way to go for that. Still, she's improving both herself and her setup, and i get the feeling she's mainly using Patra as inspiration, which is good. She can potentially grow a good market for EN ASMR, which is probably what Cover was aiming for with her.

>> No.11983893

Council hates numbers

>> No.11983919

Should've used those devolver game permissions, katana zero would be a good one.

>> No.11983923

Celeste is a really good game yet sana and ame still failed. Or is it holofags just dont know what good games are?

>> No.11983949

No, they sure love the $$$, one for her boyfriend and college, the other for weed

>> No.11983950

Fuck you Ina you fucking whore
Overlapping Gura/Shion

>> No.11984081

Based Ina saving the King from Gura

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>> No.11984102

Ina honorary Niji?

>> No.11984115
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>+Fuwa 3.2k
This is the lowest I've seen them shilling some game

>> No.11984154

Plot twist : Ina was a day 1 nijinigger and the one behind Holocaust

>> No.11984204

There's a difference between a game that's good for playing and a game that's good for watching.

>> No.11984255

SC reading and Hades are basically chatting streams too

At the beginning she wasn't able to talk with the viewers and now it's all that she wants to do

>> No.11984287

shit that's low as fuck, guess the game devs didn't pay shit

>> No.11984327
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nijifans really splurge their shit out during birthdays huh. The same goes during Hajime's birthday or was it gaku a few weeks ago. Hajime also had a buff a few days ago with the island trip and 3D.

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Sanbaka just shilled a game too. 4k for Toko and Ange.

>> No.11984360

My brain isn't doing well today. Correction: Kaida had a buff a few days ago*

>> No.11984362

Man they are squandering their waning debut buff Kronii especially. But Myth came in expecting NijiEN numbers and the poorfags especially came in hustling. Ina who had a “real” job and Gura who blew the doors off everyone immediately less so. The council girls came in knowing they would make a ton of money without effort. I don’t condone 2views working minimum wage jobs seething or becoming antis… but I sort of understand

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>> No.11984457

The reason why kuzuha can compete with Holo is because his coworkers are all midgets
overlapping will not affect him at all
The only one can compete with him is Toya who rarely streams

>> No.11984463

Out of money, huh

>> No.11984489

I'm just glad that Bae is grinding like a madrrat. She's the perfect example of a 2view who's making the most of the opportunity given to her.

>> No.11984490

Fair enough

>> No.11984534

Peko finally starts inclining again after 45 minutes of stagnant 19k+ ccv.
Any stream watchers here knows why?

>> No.11984545

In other hand, this is good for less performance council to gain her viewer while she is not around.

>> No.11984565

It's a really funny stream, and word is getting around

>> No.11984583
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Not for long

>> No.11984585

idk if other streams bumped her but in her game she is currently at her best run. And she might accidentally finish the game trough the hardest ending.

>> No.11984598

too late, the 22:00 JST overlap fiasco will have something to say about that incline

>> No.11984673

update: she did it absolute madlad she will peak at 22k i guess.

>> No.11984709

Sounds like Jun

>> No.11984719

Wait till they get permissions for castle crashers

>> No.11984754

Almost double the member yet the CCV is still not that high

>> No.11984797

Baelz was almost an 3 digits viewers
Kronii as a streamer was the smallest

>> No.11984899

For a newbie with a scuffed setup, no top end mic her views are actually really good. ASMR seems to get a long tail of replay views so it's not really fair to compare to someone like Patra who debuted in 2018, Noel, or even her past lives. Once she builds up a fanbase she could make a killing on voicepacks. (Kronii too but apparently she hates money)

>> No.11984924

ASMR does really well for VOD views as it's a rare stream that people will replay over and over again, I'm pretty sure Noel has more VODs over 1 million views than anyone other than Gura, Pekora and Marine

>> No.11984970

Any Koronies who watch her, is she working on something else? If she were cleaning up prior life obligations, or working on a big project a lot (not all) of this would be forgiven I feel.

>> No.11985002

So Nijisanji is winning this month in top 10 again?

>> No.11985013

Why do the best council streams so fucking less!!!!
Mumei and Kronii! Get your fucking shit together!!
My bonus the other day are ready, be prepared autistic clock for some Schizo SCs

>> No.11985024

Kronii's VA channel is not small.

>> No.11985034

Gura's members only soft talking has way, way more views than almost all her other members vids for this reason, in part

>> No.11985091

Cunny collab
Bratty cunny collab

>> No.11985105

Her streaming strat is still getting her good views though. It's like a rare event where she streams.

>> No.11985114

Lol keep dreaming

>> No.11985118

Noel at one point is the one leading 3rd gen in subs. Youtube banning hololive ASMR is such a huge nerf to her. If YT didn't ban Holoasmr she will be a different kind of beast

>> No.11985129

check noel's

>> No.11985178

Dumbass, Noel has been in the business for 2 years now. Fauna literally just debuted yet she has high VOD already.

>> No.11985188

Yeah she's soooo Busy working on her Animal Crossing and Monster Hunter.
If chat didn't went schizo then 80% of her minecraft will be offstream.
Why exactly did i have her as oshi?

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Lmao 3m subs sub 20k

>> No.11985211

She gets good ccv which we are autistically focused on, but her overall views, SC, growth are suffereing somewhat. She is not doing badly, most vtubers would kill to be in her position. But she was in a position to truly break out, but she seems content to just be doing very well as a relatively low volume streamer

>> No.11985261

And she still runs her roommate's channel ( +Niconico) for ASMR.

>> No.11985304

Would having a separate Twitch streams be a good way to keep that content on a Holo channel without running afoul of content restrictions? Not that she likely cares that much she can just keep it on her alternate channel and keep Cover's cut

>> No.11985310

Lol, Manjisanji will be never known outside of Japan while Hololive girls will eventually hold their own English concert

>> No.11985318

even if she's not doing SC reading, she'll still do worse

>> No.11985412

Why are all baits made by Nijiniggers? Is it a common characteristic for a Nijinigger?

>> No.11985431

>No restrictions
>To a corpo
Laugh at this short brain

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>1.07m sub
>not even 6% likes
Dead subs? dead subs

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Oh right it's a nijimale birthday today, well we know who's winning SCs today at least

>> No.11985492

Still hasn't hit a million? That's genuinely surprising given how fast it was out of the gate.

>> No.11985510

>in /#/
this is a holobronies vs holobronies thread

>> No.11985528

Top holo en and jp cant even beat King Kuzuha kek

>> No.11985559

ngl watching a scary videos with a <200 view is good content


>> No.11985597

he has 3 more days, or graduation.

>> No.11985605

Please understand Anykara can't pay to bot two songs at one time. Budget is only enough for one song per talent or in EN case one song per gen.

>> No.11985636

How about yesterday, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before, and the day before.

>> No.11985642

>ASMR seems to get a long tail of replay views
True. I play Rene's ASMR stream almost everynight

>> No.11985676

I think that she mentioned 3 times so far about having a project to finish and a record session to do
This is not a valid excuse when Mori is streaming almost everyday and already finished November's song

>> No.11985792

Choco lost her spirit when asmr purge followed by holocaust happened. Nowdays the only thing keeping her soul is subachocoluna

>> No.11985832

Bot views? Bot views

>> No.11985878

Despite making up 10% of the population nijiniggers create 90% of the shitty bait

>> No.11985886

Well that screenshot was taken 33 hours ago and only 10,819 views was gained from that duration.

Assuming they keep the daily reps, it will reach 1m in 25 days.

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Bot subs? Bot subs

>> No.11985942

Delusional. Cope and seethe Nijinigger

>> No.11985973

She always tells stories of her endless animal crossing and monhun.
Sometimes she even sneaks an offstream minecraft only to be caught by someone streaming
Shameless bitch is becoming an Ayame slow and steady (she's was my EN oshi but im starting to hate her)

>> No.11985999

Add to that Ina's rl job 6 months from debut, and big project for umapyoi later

>> No.11986013

those donki plushies are very popular, cover must be seething that they have to give a cut to don quixote. they shouldve made plushies themselves

>> No.11986021

When you think about it, since Nijisanji doesn't have that many EOP fans, the best they can do is around the population of Japan and maybe SEA. Hololive, however, caters to the rest of the world so their view count can triple, quadruple Niji's view counts.

>> No.11986064

>Actual Mel-tier numbers for his first ever original

>> No.11986157

So far Hololive plushies are sold by third party collaborator.

>> No.11986203

>these nasty low numbers on my /#/
I think im going to puke

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Imagine if they subbed fr
More sub, more seethe

>> No.11986240

With the future AnyColor's takeover of Cover, who do you think the company should keep and should let go?

>> No.11986322

>doesn't even have the word "Gura" in the title

>> No.11986323

You should let go of your dreams and start taking meds. That's what
If all else fails let go of your life

>> No.11986329

I DM-ed the animator himself, I think he meant to animate Ars wearing a cat costume, so Ars has more fans than we think.

>> No.11986457

Nijicope? Nijicope

>> No.11986483

isn't that the cheap currency?

>> No.11986511

Miko might be able to take it if Bae and Ina end.

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>> No.11986640

Towa did a member stream and it somehow got registered as only having 8 views in total on playboard because she switched it to member only at the last moment. It Has absolutely tanked her Avg video views on there.


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>> No.11986724

Was expecting a relatively light slot, but instead everyone and their mother has a stream tonight apparently. RIP Guraxshion collab numbers.

>> No.11986741

Oh no no no, King don't look

>> No.11986745

I'm hoping the other holos hanging out in the server join Miko and Ollie.

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>> No.11986783

K-King... :-(

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>he didn't believe in Peko 22k
When will you infidels learn?

>> No.11986918

Bae might end but Ina started less than a hour ago

>> No.11986924

Yeah, you show them! Fuck those people

>> No.11986936

Princess S-Shrine Maid... :-(

>> No.11986964

Kuzuha needs today's win, otherwise getting mogged by dumb baby twice is gonna be hilarious

>> No.11987120

>Ollie exits vc
>Miko ccv jumps 1k

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>> No.11987125

Niji 60k (25 streams)
Holo 88k (10 streams)

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I have to say Matuli may have fucked her audience for good. Even bloody Mel guerilla "I'll brush my teeth and drink some tea" stream was pulling numbers in this vicinity earlier today.

>> No.11987212

she just doesn't have the holo feel that holo hako-oshis like, if mel streams more regularly even she will beat festival

>> No.11987312

Matsuri pissed away her hako-oshi buff with her menhera bullshit and constant collabing with outsiders over other holomem. At this point Matsuri merely 'exists' within the greater psyche of holofans as the meme of 'god' more than an actual member of Hololive.

>> No.11987389

she threw away her casual viewers on apex, she threw away her gachis on the Hand incident.

>> No.11987438

yeah its kind of painful that she's really been collabing within holo a lot recently without her numbers improving. she's trying but the damage has been done

>> No.11987493

It will take 2-3 months with constant holo interaction before she recovers. Even Aqua took a while

>> No.11987503

oh yea, and she threw away the box pushers because of haachama incident.

>> No.11987546

Collabs are great for variety and building anticipation for big events (3d lives with guests, Anniversary streams, call ins) but it doesn't substitute for your own core content. If nothing else you have to convert interested tourists into long-term fans.

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>"Ore ga Hololive Da", "I'm god, OK?", one of the biggest recognition of any vtuber ever to have existed playing the signature game of the branch which propels even Sora Daisenpai to 5k+ streams assisted by the second most watched streamer of the biggest western branch of any vtuber company?
>one humble third worlder wide hipped big boobed former model staring at the screen doing nothing for one hour


>> No.11987598

hey welcome back

>> No.11987599

aqua and matsuri are completely different, i just cant see matsuri getting the general holo audience without any drastic changes to her

>> No.11987632

She has to cement herself as a Holo again, stop apex and no more
Menhera outburst.
One of her biggest issues she has with other Holo members is that she gets really clingy if she gets along with someone and then drives them away.
Luna comes to mind.

>> No.11987635

threw away casual holos
>hand accident
threw away gachis
>chama breakdown
thew away unityfags

>> No.11987673

I wouldn't be surprised if she graduates (and no, I'm not baitposting). Honestly, if there's anyone here still watching her, what connection in Hololive has she fostered that she hasn't yet pissed away. Luna has choco, Shuba and Botan. Friend is the only one in her gen that even acknowledges her but it feels more like it's done out of a sense of obligation. She's so separated from the general Hololive sphere that you could mistake her for a Niji or another corpos Chuuba. It's fucking sad since she was one of the chuubas who helped usher in the Vtuber boom in the west but now she's turned into nothing more than a footnote.

>> No.11987776

Atleast she's not as irrelevant as Ayame who almost never streams

>> No.11987797

That's not what irrelevant means, anon...

>> No.11987804

>All because of apex
lmao when will these ladies learn. Towa could be next

>> No.11987812

how big is donki in japan? I mean if they are big at least they know how good connections and relationship

>> No.11987860

I thought the Moona stream had 17k viewers lol.
Didn't realize it ended a while ago.

>> No.11987880

Towa started off as an FPS chuuba and cultivated that kind of audience.
Matsuri started off as a zataudan and collab queen and then pissed it away for apex.
Decently big I imagine, it gets referenced in games and anime a decent amount.

>> No.11987889

Really big. They are the discount store of Japan. God I missed donki.

>> No.11987952

Ayame is a lazy bitch but even she has cemented herself by being close to Mio and Korone. She's like the loner of the family that your aunties spoil rotten. But still, you could never mistake her as anything but a part of Hololive.

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>> No.11988085

their earning for FY 2020 was only 1.6 trillion yen

>> No.11988129

>as irrelevant as Ayame
kek, Ayame is pretty much one of the faces of the company along with Fubuki, Korone and Pekora.
Her appearances on Hologra pretty much DOUBLE the usual audience, and every stream she deigns to make is a guaranteed success.

Don't let her sparse schedule fool you, there is nothing alike between them both

>> No.11988139

I kneel peko

>> No.11988163

>Miko has 50 minutes to incline 3k ccv to dab on KZH
place ur bets, /#/

>> No.11988176

>25K with Polka
Miko, you can do it. Get 28k

>> No.11988179

>only 1.6 trillion yen

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>> No.11988260

Gura and Shion ending soon too.

>> No.11988277

Are any streams ending soon that can redirect viewers to Miko?

>> No.11988302

>Only 1.6 trillion(14 Billion)
Yes. Only.

>> No.11988395

Just have offstream VR Sex already you horny lolis

>> No.11988496

Apples and oranges anon.
Towa did a watch along for a fucking apex pro esports tournament yesterday and got the same viewer numbers as Lamy and Korone's movie watchalong.
Apex, esports and competitive fps is her brand has been since the beginning, not as a the strongest player but as a fan who is connected to the scene.
Her numbers aren't impressive but she has always had her niche. And she still organizes collabs in hololive and does her semi regular 10k singing streams.

>> No.11988507

Tell Abe to open up the borders.

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Anon, I...

>> No.11988586

They should have asked Nijisanji instead. Actual people might know them.

>> No.11988590

Does Miko take the day if she gets 28k? She's roughy around 1.5k away from it.

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stop streaming already. push mikooo

>> No.11988632

He will always be the prime minister in my heart.

>> No.11988637
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There is not a single day that I won't kneel to Suisei.

>> No.11988651

They're ending, I'm doing MY PART and switching to Miko!

>> No.11988660

She could if Gura and Shion ending their streams. But right now it's hard because Polka is a debuff

>> No.11988682

Predictions? I know, >mel, but it's a pretty strong set of guests.

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Watame's aftertalk for comparison

>> No.11988711

polka was a buff actually, got her above 25k

>> No.11988712

I think Matsuri pissed away too many gachis to survive without the hololive brand and its sponsorships. She isn't Coco or Lulu. The only way Festival graduates is if she finds a penis with deep enough pockets who can stand her

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>> No.11988728

Ollie was a debuff. Polka's a buff.

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>> No.11988744

oh no...

>> No.11988748

minimum 50k

>> No.11988755

dont look....

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>> No.11988792

I can definitely support her for 1 year, if she's willing to be rented, why not

>> No.11988801

Oh no no no Nijichads, get down

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>> No.11988808

What's KZH peak viewers?

>> No.11988810

Just a bit more!

>> No.11988839
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>25) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 27k - Apex
>A bit early, but it is what it is

>> No.11988852

Matsuri is the kind of girl that will stab you to death in your sleep for talking to another woman.

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>25) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 27k - Apex

>A bit early, but it is what it is

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>> No.11988901

That's illegal!

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>> No.11988910

Unfortunately Suisei overlaps, so 1k was taken off from Miko. #MiComet

src: me

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>> No.11988940

28k lmao

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>> No.11988953

It's over...

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>> No.11988960


Its over KING

>> No.11988961

Miko 28k
I knell

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Abayo king....

>> No.11988973

I demand a recount!

>> No.11988991

this thread used to be better

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>> No.11988997

30K unless her guests promote it as well

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>> No.11989001

Where can i report holos for illegal views funneling?

>> No.11989011
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No recounts

>> No.11989014

We're bored, and really, really, REALLY wanted to dunk on the anon who wanted to call it early.

>> No.11989034

>Where can i report holos for illegal views funneling?
The system is rigged, your only alternative is to lodge a report with
>Oozora Keisatsu

>> No.11989041

29k soon

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>> No.11989045

>gets blueballed by miko two days in a row

>> No.11989051

That's it, Im tired of losing I'm switching teams right now!

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>> No.11989072

lmao nijibro, stolen by migo twice

>> No.11989082

How dare you taint my chart with fakes. Get out.

>> No.11989088

Blame the fag who proclaimed an early victory. There wouldn't have been that much people posting about Miko winning.

>> No.11989098

too strong, I kneel mikochi

>> No.11989100

Come on Miko, get it to 30k to at least save the day from weak numbers!

>> No.11989103

># police
You don't seem to pop up whenever kuzuniggers spam

>> No.11989111

>biggest annual company-wide event hosted by second most watched member
>not even 40k

>> No.11989119
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>Kuzuha already won, I k-kneel!
ENTER: Elite Miko (again)

>> No.11989131

I'm the top winner anon, I didn't call kuzuha early. fukken hell

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>> No.11989137

>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>honorary *insert name here*
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>LARPing as Vshojofags
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots

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>> No.11989140

Did i mention, I'm something of a 35p myself?

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>> No.11989207

Oh nonono Kuzuhafag not like this

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How do I delete posts on mobile? I don’t know how to retract a kneel

>> No.11989233

Yea, we knew it was a fake, but we wanted to dunk on 'em anyways. You, the real lister, know to wait until the close to post.

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>> No.11989272

Anons are getting too cocky, Kuzuha can still win!

>> No.11989274

>Migo at 29k


>> No.11989283

Your jinx power is as strong as Gura

>> No.11989303


>Get mogged my a baby two days in a row

>> No.11989305
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Why can't Mori get as many viewers as Suisei with music related streams? Her songs are performing so much better but her CCV is declining

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look like something interesting happening here...
I'm gonna kneel to Miko-chi too

>> No.11989332
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Both Ina and Miko got quite the buff from Gura/Shion ending.

>> No.11989333

Can we get 30k? come on Suisei end your stream for Miko

>> No.11989338

At least he only did it once
It takes talent to snipe yourself with banana twice in a row in the same map

>> No.11989358

migo wins

>> No.11989362

>Why can't Mori get as many viewers as Suisei
The answer is easy
>because she doesn't stream enough to get an actual captive audience

And that goes both in frequency of streams and and in longevity of career.

>> No.11989380

looks like matsuri and ina are gonna end

>> No.11989412

Fine, I'll bite the bait, we're at bump limit.
MEMBERSHIP REBOOT - That alone tells you that if you don't give a rats ass about membership that you're gonna steer clear. New song chat is nice, but honestly unless you're a bit of a music nut who likes to pick the brains of a music artist's thoughts it's gonna be something you tune out.
Also, this is Suisei reviewing her Live, and even those that only caught the free part may be interested if they aren't planning on watching the VOD.

>> No.11989424

Probably cause her fans are all around the world while Suisei fans are primarily in Japan.
I guess check the vod views between the two.

>> No.11989426

>Migo goona hit 30k at this point

>> No.11989448

She’s gonna hit 30k… just don’t, look, king, it’s ok, you’ve tried your hardest and done enough… rest now…

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>> No.11989491

>Migo at 30k
It's over Nijibros, I'm sorry ...

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30k GET

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Migo I kneel, you saved the day for numberfags fearing a day full of weak numbers.

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>How mad is kuzuhafag right now?

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>> No.11989657

I'm actually surprised that miko win the day. The amount of shitposts is also surprised me too.

>> No.11989679

Cope nijikek

>> No.11989685

Miko is getting the buff from Sports Fes. Despite Pekora, Miko, Marine, Ayame and Gura being the top streamers in the company, I have to commend Hololive on building such a strong foundation that their mid-tier members can get above 10k viewers in a regular basis. This is box-pushing done right, and no one else can replicate.

>> No.11989691

I actually like nijisanji and kuzuha a lot. But it's just so fun when hololive win the day. Because different people can be fighting for the top from day to day.

>> No.11989702

This is literally Twitch raid lite. It's not fair.
You fags don't want to count Twitch raid but agree to count this?

>> No.11989711

This is the power of Hololive with less overlapping

>> No.11989722

fucking hell she's not stopping

>> No.11989754

Having a fanbase that likes more than one streamer in the company should be illegal, I agree. It’s not fair.

>> No.11989757

She's... not a good talker, the angst is out of place, the gap moe just doesn't work well in that regard.

>> No.11989760

It's because some nijifags were already proclaiming that Kuzuha won the day when there were still a couple of hours left and his views weren't that big.

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This is NOTHING like a Twitch raid. Look at the spread of the incline, this is people finishing their previous stream and deliberately going for the one ongoing stream that they want to watch.
In a raid they are forcibly moved from the prev to the next stream, to a peak of a few seconds

>> No.11989786

Yes, because it doesn't forcefully relocate everyone in the stream into the new one and require a manual intervention to stop.
If people are instead choosing to show up in another stream on their own, that's a-okay.
After all, that's how you build an organic culture of box-pushing.

>> No.11989849

They don't get raid from e-celebs, retard

>> No.11989858


Hololive's box pushing is unreal.

If you were a startup, how do you even go about trying to replicate it? Assume that all talents are willing to participate.

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Even Holostars' weakest member is getting 1k, they're inclining.

>> No.11989904

Miko is anything but mid-tier at this point. Your point still stands though. Any mid-tier Holo has the chance to crack 20k-30k for a non-event stream given the right circumstances.

>> No.11989912

>Comparing the talk about Suisei's biggest event of her life with a regular lyrics dive
That would be a good point if you are comparing to a Holo that streams very frequently. Not Suisei

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Here is all Minecraft streams (with Minecraft in the title) for the month of October so far
>Matsuri's is the second lowest number of JP
She only beats one (1) after-hours Mel stream where she collab with Watame on Watame graveyard slot

I'm eyeballing it so maybe she beats another one but I didn't find it

>> No.11989928

Imagine the salt if Holostar box pushing (separate from Hololive) gets them to manjisanji levels.

>> No.11989942

Going hard on unity, and catering to EOP, that's what Hololive did.

>> No.11989962

>Twitch streamer raid, system-based function
>holofags just watching whatever is kino
Wait till yt implements that system, it'd be much more ridiculous

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This is raid

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>> No.11989997

Startups can't. You need to have some established talents and have them build their own fanbases and relationships over an extended period, then harvest the benefits. Can't do it too fast or too forced.

>> No.11990032

There are actually a few job postings on Cover's site related to Holostars. I think they are going to start pushing them hard.

>> No.11990081

Oh? You mean it has to be done Slow and Steady? That its building a sub-culture? That you can't just simply forcefully acquire fans? Like maybe its natural growth?

>> No.11990098

>if you are comparing to a Holo that streams very frequently. Not Suisei
Suisei streams frequently enough. It is not daily but (except in the past few months with this whole idol reps / singer reps thing) she made a name for herself as a streamer even without taking her musical career in account.

Think "Tetris Suisei" or "psycho Suisei", a reputation she got by playing games. Calli doesn't really have it, she's a singer first and foremost meaning the audience will tune in for her singing but not for her gaming or variety streaming

>> No.11990132

Imagine if youtube have raid functions lol

>> No.11990149

Strong scouting and positioning collabs into a slice of life Anime. Also, lots of luck.

>> No.11990157

I can see Cover investing in the actual homos instead of debuting more

>> No.11990158

Thank God they don't have it. Vtuber chat is already bad enough, imagine Jun siccing his minions over someone that just killed him on APEX

>> No.11990159

Hololive number will fuck up everyone else

>> No.11990165

24:00 JST soon, should we give king injury times to catch up? Or this is it?

>> No.11990174

Slow and steady to irrelevancy might be more correct at this point.

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you just have to be elite

>> No.11990210

Top of the day is only made after 1AM JST except if there is a chance a sudden incline after midnight would change the #1 position.

That's not the case today

>> No.11990222

Nijisanji EN is trying but it’s not working that well.
It’s starting to become full of Selen only watchers.

>> No.11990246

thatd be the day i stop using it

>> No.11990256

So Kuzuha gets second place 3 days in a row... I feel bad for the kuzunigger.

>> No.11990265

go. we can always correct it if another thing pops up

>> No.11990273

That’s what’s happening.
Holostars talents have been vocal about not wanting more debuts until they can grow as a branch.

>> No.11990311

It's working better than holoEN. Every NijiEN has excellent chemistry and uses their freedom to collab with each other to great effect.

>> No.11990312

Meanwhile, on twitch... Viewership is scummy as hell. >>11956961

>> No.11990313

Yeah, they went full nepotism first and tried for the friend group approach.

Without several people that can stand out on their own to bring the others up, it's not working out as well as they hoped.

Selen is good, but if the box pushing doesn't work, she will end up as EN Kuzuha lol.

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The bigger issue isn't the CCV, even during her peak she was way below avg for that in Hololive, it's that even her songs aren't getting views anymore.
None of them, not even the Gura Sorairo Days are in the weekly rankings anymore. Meaning less than 50k views per week.

>> No.11990322
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>Nijisanji EN is trying
No they aren't. Box pushing implies a minimal level of coordination

Having two thirds of your streamers competing in the same slot is THE OPPOSITE of box pushing.

>> No.11990338

>Think "Tetris Suisei" or "psycho Suisei", a reputation she got by playing games
Ok then say that in the first place? What you said before was blatantly wrong because Mori has been streaming as much as if not more than Suisei. Their difference in CCV have nothing to do with your
>stream enough to get an actual captive audience

>> No.11990355

>embed streams counts as a view

>> No.11990358

Having narratives to follow is super important. There's too many girls to follow closely. Most people will only follow one or a handful, then catch clips or important collabs. Simple labels/narratives give you something to care about/root for even when it's a talent you don't know that much about. Even better if it has some relationship to your oshi. Hololive is like a SOL anime with 10 spins offs and a 9000 episode backlog. You might not read an entire spin off series but if there's a secondary character you like in small doses you'll check them out when your fav is on hiatus.

>> No.11990383

Because somehow, management approved the idea of Selen roasting the new debutees. I mean, if you want them to put on a good show, don't fucking roast them during the debut. That's so fucking stupid. I wonder if the new girls might harbor any ill will towards that decision.

>> No.11990387

>It's working better than holoEN. Every NijiEN has excellent chemist-

That is ABSOLUTELY not what "box pushing" means at all.
Box pushing means an active effort to push forward even the smallest of the members, which NijiEN most definitely isn't doing.

You may be confusing "creative freedom" with "box pushing". They are not remotely the same thing

>> No.11990388

>nijien is trying box pushing
>figure out EOPs don't know nijiJP,nijiID at all
>Get fucked

>> No.11990398

Overlapping doesn't matter when they can jump into each other's streams at any time for an impromptu collab.

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>> No.11990419

It's the chemistry anon

>> No.11990422

desu, she kinda ended up like Mel and Akirose. Mostly forgotten by the casual audience. They don't have strong ties to another member.

Even Choco has the SubaLunaChoco group.

>> No.11990431

Sorry, I left out something important as an "implicity" thought.
Calli doesn't stream *games* and regular streaming content enough to have a captive *non musical* audience.

>> No.11990432

It's called banter, maybe holos could try it sometime, it'd spice up their bland collabs.

>> No.11990446

Everyone was worried the overlap would kill Miko's peak ccv but all of those streams had respectable numbers that funneled into Miko's stream when they ended. The question: does Miko get better numbers if she was uncontested, or if she has competition to start but gets the viewers funneled to her when they end?

>> No.11990474

>Overlapping doesn't matter when they can jump into each other's stre-
For fuck sake, of course it matters otherwise WHY THE FUCK WOULD REIMU PULLING UNDER 300 VIEWS

She's this close to become a "2 digits", barely above a 2 views.

>> No.11990476

Who started this box pushing for hololive?

>> No.11990480

Banter so great it leaves your new "colleagues" new less fans and you with more....Great banter...

>> No.11990489

Yep, they should do it like how Holo Gen3 arranged it. No one can start their stream at the same hour.

They're the ones that really pushed the unity that Holo is known for today.

Then Coco took that base unity and made Asacoco, which strengthened unity even more.

>> No.11990506

The Gen system really kicked it into gear I feel like, especially Gen 3

>> No.11990534

hey theyre doing great then, just like the jp branch with kuzuha

>> No.11990535

Gamers started it but Gen 3 perfected the craft

>> No.11990571

She's pulling 300 views today but once another NijiEN drops by her stream and collabs without prior notice it could become 900 at any time, that's the advantage of the freedom they have.

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>Who started this box pushing for hololive?
Explicitly? Gen 3. You can even see in their scheduling, they went out of their way to split the primetime among them.

Also the whole "Flare harem" kayfabe in the beginning with Noel, Marine and Rushia managed to spread the attention among them in a way prev generations had (with AquaShion, for instance) but not as widespread.

>> No.11990629

The problem is ultimately the talent. You need not only a center that can be the main attraction but also a supporting cast that's also interesting enough to carry their weight. Despite all the shilling that Selen and Nijifags do, Selen herself isn't good enough to be a protag. At best, shed make a good secondary character. And that's the problem with NijiEn especially for wave 3. You have a secondary character that your trying to turn into a protag and a bunch of NPCs.

>> No.11990637

>but once another NijiEN drops by her stream and collabs without prior notice it could become 900
Yeah, that made me sad now. Thanks?

>> No.11990647

If only there was data before July 2020 or data from when gen 3 debuted.

>> No.11990652

Or they could just not overlap and she would get 4 digits CCV on her own. Simple, isn't it?

>> No.11990689

those colors feel all wrong lol

>> No.11990696

Gen 3.
Another thing is that the most popular Holos pushed for unity and the box pushing method whereas on the Niji side it’s the Hololive-lite branch (NijiEN).

>> No.11990715

Then they're not showing off their chemistry, which is something they have in spades.

>> No.11990720

It’s nice that fans of the tiny companies come into this thread to numberfag with us. Like a toddler pretending to mow the lawn like papa.

>> No.11990723

Same, especially for the previous 2 days when had super strong, usually day winning performance.

>> No.11990733

Maybe Gen3

The notable box pushers are Gen3, Fubuki, and Coco (rip). I'd even say that Kiara is a box pusher because she organizes a lot of big collabs but her other content debuffs it.

Most of the girls do their part too ofc, even Matsuri (when she celebrated Gura reaching 3m sub for her)

>> No.11990738

>Selen herself isn't good enough to be a protag
I disagree. Finding a good protagonist is not even hard, sometimes the protagonist can be the blandest of the characters
>see Flare in the "Flare harem" arc

But finding a good "straightman", a good "sidekick" and a good "vanquished romantic rival" is hard as fuck
>see Subaru, Moona and also Aqua in the Okayu-Korone arc for reference
Anyone can play protag and nobody will refuse the role. Finding someone that can play a secondary character and will not be proud enough for the role is the difficult task

>> No.11990757

3 digit views are perfectly respectable and already in the top 25% of all vtubers.

>> No.11990763

I feel like Selen's content and style don't mesh well with the rest of NijiEN. She just feels like she belongs to a different sphere. I think the bigger issue is EN exploded so JP considered them peers, or even a little intimidating especially Gura. The top of NijiJP and EN are so far apart it's more charity than a mutually beneficial relationship

>> No.11990768

definitely experienced and skilled streamers. YAGOO black magic

>> No.11990769

>They don't have strong ties to another member.
Matuli's downfall starts with Hoshikawa
After that she lost the relationship with Luna
Haachama was the final nail in the coffin

>> No.11990810

NijiEN is doing extremely well for a new Nijisanji wave, get over yourself. The only recent wave in the past year or so that has outperformed them is Edengumi.

>> No.11990820

On a side note, What the fuck is up with NijiEN that they have deleted streams every single day?

1-2 days ago 3 members had their stream deleted/privated.

>> No.11990855

stop digging that grave, anon

>> No.11990856

>Haachama was the final nail in the coffin
That's when I personally gave up on giving Matsuri a chance. Even the hand shit wasn't as embarrassing to watch.

>> No.11990876

Have Kuzeha, Mito, Lize, Kanae collabed much with the bottom half of Niji EN? That would be the equivalent of Marine Holotalk, Pekora/Kiara Minecraft

>> No.11990889

not to, >>11990763, but >>11990810

>> No.11990938

I mean, you aren't wrong, but NijiEN is gonna get compared to HoloEN anyways, because they're on the same platform and thus their numbers can be compared 1:1. Twitch numbers have enough confounding factors that 1:1 comparisons are pretty shoddy at best, and instead trends should be compared. That requires effort and time though.

>> No.11990963

They don't need to show it on stream, anon
Case in point, and as much as I hate myself for saying it, Clock
She doesn't have to stream her MC gameplay to show her banter with everyone else
Sure, it hurts her number, but people will flock in whoever she's with regardless
Hell, Miko stream that's at nearly 30k RIGHT NOW is with Polka, who doesn't put up her gameplay

>> No.11990966

>The only recent wave in the past year or so that has outperformed them is Edengumi.
That's a very suspiciously narrow statement, the use of "recent".
Their "most recent" wave before that was in August 2020

>> No.11990988

Do EOP even know them?
Do they have thousands of clips?

>> No.11990995

The center of NijiEN has always been Elira, especially now with Wave 3 having 2 of her friends fawn over her and talk about her a lot.

Problem is she's doing almost nothing with this. She has what it takes to be a leader but, it's all the other members pushing for a bit, then it goes nowhere.
She plays along with Pomu at least, but Pomu tries waaay harder.

>> No.11990998

I'm almost tempted to wade through the source code that got leaked to figure out just what Twitch considers a view, though we only have educated guesses on YT so it would still be an estimate. I just want YT to suffer an outage in some way and watch Hololive storm Twitch for a week or two and see how their management would react to anime girls dominating the front page. Or have the girls just mass raid each other for shits and giggles to see how high they could get. It would provide salt for months

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>> No.11991048

Banter's fine, but not when it leads to someone from the previous wave stealing the new wave's debut buff.

>> No.11991065

The moment Hololive takes over the front page is the moment Twitch changes the rules.

>> No.11991066

This is the real problem. Korone, Fubuki, Miko had enough of a presence with EOPs through clips and memes that they really set the stage for Myth. Even among weebs the percentage that would even know who Kanae is was tiny by comparison.

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>3 digit views are perfectly respectable and already in the top 25% of all vtubers.
I'll be blunt here, and this is not an attempt at trolling considering I like both NijiEN and Holostars

>if there is the remote chance you are getting mogged both on the individual level and in the branch level by the Stars YOU ARE NOT DOING WELL
Sorry, that's the truth

>> No.11991108

Oh no doubt, but watching Vshojo, Sykkuno, etc angle to raid them would be pretty funny

>> No.11991136

Proof then?

>> No.11991140

I mean, banter is only good when the opposing party is able to return it blow for blow. Didn't quite get that feeling in the debut, and it kinda resulted in me only remembering Selen...
I agree, they DO have a ton of clips.
The problem is their heyday was before the coof forced everyone indoors for an extended period of time, and by the Hololive had taken over the EOP clip ecosystem. Too late now.

>> No.11991167

Management restrictions? Management restrictions. Kek.

>> No.11991195

Imagine aiming at a global audince but your views are only comparable to Holostars....I'd be embarrassed to death.

>> No.11991214

To put things in a different light, the problem is Matsuri's Hololive's biggest savior member.

She constantly picks up smaller/down on their luck members and helps them be more confident streamers.

She did that with Hoshikwa when she was flamed in her early months, Luna of course, she tried to help Coco and Nene at the start when they were flamed/less popular, but they both proved to be strong enough on their own.
Nowadays she hangs out most with her friend Wat, which for numbers sake, isn't amazing for either.


>> No.11991278

Hololive is not holding the YT vtuber algo by the throat, there is no way anyone can compete with them, even Vshojo clips. At best, all other companies can maybe provide an alternative and not competition because Holo brand is way too big globally.

>> No.11991294

Matsuri, the strongest saviorfag. Saviorfags should kneel to the queen of savirofagging.

>> No.11991325

>ton of 100 views clips?

>> No.11991349

That reminds me, have any other Phase Connect girls do any twitch streams?
I recall that one girl got 400 on her first twitch stream or something.

>> No.11991382

Voodoo. It only worked in a perfect storm. This is an aberration, not a paradigm shift.

>> No.11991421

Earlier tenma got 300+ iirc playing lol. I don't know who's she's talking to but its a dude.

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How does she keep up with Gura's sub growth with this?

>> No.11991438

Any chance HoloEN might make it into mainstream cons like NYCC or San Diego CC? I know they were invited to AXLite but what about AXBig?

>> No.11991453

Yeah, when you look at it like that, then it's fine
The problem is that now most Hololive members are already way stronger than her in terms of number and/or box pushing, what else can she bring to the table?
Like, at least she still stream consistently, so there's that (Yes, I'm looing at you, Ojou ... Please come back ...)
I feel like unless there's an actual yab happen, then festival will just be treated like that old auntie that you remember from time to time in family's meeting because she pissed herself drunk that one time

>> No.11991480

Clips, and she's showing up in multiple other Holomem streams (IRyS MC, Bae MC, Gura DBD) so even if she isn't streaming herself, she's still 'present' in the wider Hololive ecosystem.

>> No.11991502

Does CC even do anime shit?
AXLite only happened because there was no physical con this year.

>> No.11991522

Kanae has played with Selene and had a 'trust' clipper arc with Lazulight, but it's common for Kanae to mingle with everyone.

The rest that you mentioned and Toya have no En skills whatsoever and are afraid to try

Mayuzumi is the only JP member beside Kanae that has ventured in streaming with every Overseas Niji branch recently.

>> No.11991545

Kronii might have discovered the most effective box-pushing strat.

>> No.11991575

>anime girls dominating the front page
why would they care?
and no Hololive won't dominate the front page since 50k+ streams in Hololive arr very rare

>> No.11991603

Are there any shitpost anime youtubers left that Niji can recruit? Seems like they prefer to go to Holo instead.

>> No.11991623

Nah, there is a "recent" parallel in the music industry for what Hololive achieved, if you look back about 30 years

What both Tupac's Death Row Records and Notorious B.I.G.'s Bad Boy Records did for their respective "fiefdoms" is a close paralel to what Hololive succeeded at doing while their close rivals failed.

All it would take back in the days for a barely known rapper to catapult to stardom was a single collab in one of these two companies. release a song
>something something nigger something something bling feat. Tupac / B.I.G
and it was guaranteed eyeballs and success, and for the exact same reason it happens on Hololive
1) They pushed the culture of unity and internal consistency
2) They pushed the culture of "branding"
3) They pushed the culture of "ingroup"

That should have been a case study in the marketing industry of a scuffed movement led by literal niggers (self described likewise, even) basically by accident into a global market behemoth dwarfing every established player.
>but it wasn't

And now every other industry has to accidentally stumble upon it, which Hololive did

>> No.11991624

You know, it's not even the breaks, those are fine, even beneficial sometimes..

It's that she's playing Mineraft Every.Single.Day and not streaming it almost at all.

>> No.11991628

Rare, in the context of no raiding due to YT
Imagine the EN/JP MC portal relay last time, but with actual Twitch raiding strat

>> No.11991639

With how Twitch counts viewers, 50k might not be impossible for Hololive dumbass

>> No.11991643

10k+ are enough to dominate the front page, especially with prime JP - early NA timeslots.

>> No.11991651

Oh wait is that why LoL Worlds gets millions of views on twitch? They can gain a view from embed streams?

>> No.11991719

not really, SEAnigs, Japs and some Spics don't watch Twitch, and the general audience on twitch is also very different from YouTube. You can't expect the same numbers

>> No.11991738

simple, shes always on other people's minecraft streams

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>> No.11991776

I don't think NijiEN really did a boxpush strat. Sure, they made each wave a group with a song but beyond that they were thrown to the wolves. Lazu Light only seems like a box push because there were 3 of them. I think it would have been more effective in 2020 than 2021.

>> No.11991781

Meant that
>Mayuzumi is the only other BIG JP member

Because plenty of mid-small sized members are streaming with the international branches.

Btw, about relatively big Nijis, surprised Hoshikawa has done NOTHING to try and capitalize on the rise of NijiEN considering she wanted to reach 1 million subs this year.
Only memorable interaction on stream being when Elira showed up in chat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1oz-jMboss
I would say she's even stopped doing any English related content, but i haven't watched her since she's doubled down the Apex route.

>> No.11991783

Hololive brings its own audience, the existing Twitch audience is just a bonus. People will make Twitch accounts to watch their oshi.

>> No.11991831

>but i haven't watched her since she's doubled down the Apex route.
That killed her kitting just like Matsuri's.
Aqua was fucking lucky she didn't have the mental fortitude to withstand the first wave of pressure for her APEX playing

>> No.11991844

b-but management restricts her for streams and collabs..

>> No.11991850

Pic perfectly depicts the sched, SEX

>> No.11991852

She pushing IriS and Bea really hard kek

>> No.11991885

dedicated fans, not normal fans.
And Twitch is laggy as fuck in SEA.
I think most viewers use their phones to watch streams so they have to install a Twitch app as well.

>> No.11991913

10 streams in a week?
My lord... that's some Coco/FBK/Pekora schedule

>> No.11991923

Exactly this. IIRC ironmouse's highest CCV stream to this date is still the one in which Calli came to her channel. (I may be wrong as I have not followed her numbers recently). Holos for sure will get big numbers when streaming on twitch. People will watch for sure.

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>> No.11991994

yes, want to find some pictures but several clippers asked viewers where they watch streams on and it was 85-90% on a mobile device.

>> No.11992045

It's impressive. I don't expect any of those streams to be particularly long, but that's also a lot of collabs.

>> No.11992058

Well, it helps that Bae and IRyS actually put in the number of their own

>> No.11992099

Not surprising. It's easier to buy a phone than to get a PC and have to set it up for SEA, PC adoption rate really high primarily on North America and Europe iirc.

>> No.11992102

yeah, that's why I think the AdBlock and the tab out theory is kinda dumb. PC viewers aren't that big anyway

>> No.11992106

clipniggers are itoddlers, not surprising

>> No.11992129

Did you forget Miko streamed Minecraft on Twitch? She was streaming around 14k before YT shat the bed. When she began again Twitch, she was like 18k. Those numbers aren't core 35p who stay for watchalongs and SCs. Those are her regular Minecraft numbers at the time. Also that's one of the first proofs for YT number culling.

>> No.11992135

Isn't that just similar to the Ayame method?

>> No.11992164

>PC viewers aren't that big anyway
It doesn't need much more than 10% of a 30k audience to make a huge difference.

I for one don't really believe the "adblock" part of the theory but the "tab in tab out" is more than empirically proven

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not just SEA, the world prefers mobile as well

>> No.11992191

dakooters lol

>> No.11992207

>Isn't that just similar to the Ayame method?
Nah, Ayame doesn't make schedules, every appearance is an occasion.

ClockGirl should just go the Polka route and stop scheduling at all.

>> No.11992213

you can run adblocks and tab out on cellphones too, anonchama

>> No.11992249

Over 100% transfer rate between platforms on short notice is pretty unheard of.

>> No.11992259

Consider YT is the prime method of keeping children in their place
Not surprising

>> No.11992277

that's a rare twitch stream anon, it attracted non-Miko viewers as well

>> No.11992352

miko already used to do watchalongs on twitch, not that rare

>> No.11992353

Maybe HSKW was expecting something like Myth to happen and cut bait when there wasn't much for her to capitalize on. I mean she did have a hand in Lazu Light's song but I haven't heard much since. I think it is great when NijiJP and NijiEN interact but there always feels like there is a gulf between them. Like it's just sightings.

>> No.11992360

which vtuber group debuted 6 chuubas yesterday but got overshadowed by Miko's announcement and Kuzuha's among us?

>> No.11992365

you can't tab out with the normal youtube app, I don't think many people use browsers to watch YouTube

>> No.11992371

Will November be a another winning month for Hololive or is Nijisanji cooking up something big for next month?

>> No.11992405

Some new group by 774.
I don't care enough, I only follow Rene.

>> No.11992418

Miko seems to have announced Calli will be part of the Sports Festival after all (but will have to leave early, like Mel last year)

>> No.11992424

Did niji even win in their buff month?

>> No.11992436

>Kuzu's birthday live.
>Marine returning.

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>> No.11992458

>EN outfits
>3 birthdays (Lamy, Noel, Aqua)
I dunno anon.

>> No.11992465

You can't watch 2 streams on mobile either. That means most collab stream numbers are from separate users.

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the numbers aren't that good though

>> No.11992472

Oh, that's cool, and absolutely understandable since something important involving a 3rd party that can't reschedule is pretty big.
That should hopefully get SOME of the schizos to stuff it for a bit.

>> No.11992499

yea she had already said it on twitter, schizos just pretend not to know

>> No.11992507

HoloEN costumes, whatever birthday or anniversary streams Holo has, Gen 3 concert free portion off the top of my head.

>> No.11992508

Scratch that, Aqua is December 1.
TWO birthdays
Noel probably won't do a live for hers but Lamy might?
Eh nvm.

>> No.11992513

Consider that many solo watchalongs on YT get less than 3-4k on average, 9k is absoluty astounding.

>> No.11992516

The most Hololive has for Nov is Gen 3's concert if I remember correctly
Also Lamy/Noel birthday
With the MC buff dying down, it's going to be at least more interesting than this month at least

>> No.11992535

for really big collabs, I can see people use their PCs to watch multiple POVs

>> No.11992549

B-But the 5% rrat ...

>> No.11992569

MC buff isn't that big anyway, they'd still get 10ks out of nowhere for minecraft

>> No.11992571

yeah but how about the other 3

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>> No.11992635

lmao the absolute state of risk-averse nip. they don't really want to use up space

jpbros started adapted the meme really well

>> No.11992641

Ehhh, sure. It is kind of dead hours anyway.

>> No.11992642

>Gen 3 concert free portion
im not sure this one is going to have a free portion

>> No.11992645

There are several 3rd party YT apps people use to bypass ads, especially in SEA, Eastern Europe, Africa, etc..

>> No.11992652

Lamy probably will have a live. She's been hinting for original song and what is the best way to announce original song other than live?

>> No.11992657

Ina's output is almost entirely determined by what priestess duties she has going on in the background. Part of the reason the JP talents respect her so much is she was already a high level artist, and she's a fairly high level streamer on top of that. If she went full time and did literally anything to bait superchats she'd be a powerhouse.

>> No.11992664

Bahroo kneelers assemble!
>not a vtuber tho
Unless we're timelooping, if then please bring back sodapopping!

>> No.11992671


>> No.11992680

As possibly the only actual reimu fan in this thread, I'd rather they just leave her alone.

>> No.11992688

how bout anniversaries?

>> No.11992697

Why not? All Hololive concerts so far have had one.

>> No.11992732

Just AZKi. She might do a live but I don't know if she will get numbers.

>> No.11992733

most people don't know how to install YouTube Vance, they don't even know that it exists

>> No.11992741

9k on twitch is about 4-6k on youtube, due to spamviewer filters

>> No.11992794

not a vtuber

>> No.11992807

Tbf shelf space in Japan is a precious commodity. Things are just smaller there. Japanese visitors from urban areas think your upscale suburban home is a mansion, while Costco blows their minds.

>> No.11992829

just look through it anon, twitchtracker is self-explanatory. i can already tell myself 'just chatting' is pre-watchalong

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>if then please bring back sodapopping!
I genuinely hate Chance for wasting this avatar

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These numbers right now pleases my autism.

>> No.11993068

Well, at least azki has the chance to easily invite a lot of guests, since she's playing with everybody at Sportsfes

>> No.11993069

Hololive's JP audience seems to be very welcoming to both EN and ID branch while Nijisanji's JP audience doesn't even know the foreign branches that well. Is it because of the large number?

>> No.11993105

>Is it because of the large number?
No, it's because box pushing is already ingrained in the culture. For the general fanbase every holo member is treated as part of the family.

>> No.11993137

Hololive has no significant JP audience, is all Eops

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For all the hassle ClockGirl gets her number of hours streamed in 2021 is not even that low.
>pic related

The thing is not that she takes too many breaks or stream too infrequently but that she

>> No.11993203

Please don't post numbers that go against the established narratives. Thanks.

>> No.11993247

Scarcity principle. Early Gura didn't stream much either.

>> No.11993256

If she didn't explicitly write those days as BREAK on her sched no1 would say a thing

>> No.11993354

It's not that bad, its just that as one of the upcoming new workers, you'd expect them to show their best before getting more relaxed and comfortable enough to have a schedule like that a few months later.

>> No.11993363

>If she didn't explicitly write those days as BREAK on her sched no1 would say a thing
She should have left them out and then said

>*any day not mentioned is a potential guerilla stream

>> No.11993411


1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)

*will be reposted again next thread

>> No.11993433

Yeah this is what Kronies are fundamentally melting down over. Every time she streams, she just shows off the results of some big Minecraft adventure or bunker expansion. If she could bring herself to just throw up a guerilla frame whenever she was playing, she'd be colossal. But she's doing fine as-is, so oh well.
As a member, I'm more annoyed by the infrequent members streams. But maybe I'm just spoiled by Myth's membership stream frequency.

>> No.11993544

This. That's why numberchads compares the sched/perf to early months of Myth, not recent. They are supposed to grind first, and establish a foothold, not rely on brand and their seniors all the time.

having multiple "breaks" on successive weeks is an awful outlook, add to that you are just playing off-stream

>> No.11993763

>first name on the sportfes team doesn't mean they're the camera/team leader
possible kroni frame for sportfes

>> No.11993767

Council might be there to supplement Myth though, and that's okay.
Right now Myth and some Council members are still holding strong. I think some Myth girls are still feeling motivated though so less Council stream is fine. When a majority of Myth girls take breaks, then maybe some Council girls can increase their stream time to fill up the empty space.

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Gura generally streamed more often than that last year, at least in terms of number of streams. There's always 2 break days "hidden" off her schedules, while kronii has 3-4 break days.

>> No.11993775

>not rely on brand and their seniors all the time.
This is honestly sad and goes against the common idol journey that even Myth followed. May numbers bless Bae, the only one who grinds,

>> No.11993800

>Hmm, I could gets thousands of views, make an few extra grand in income. But who would want to watch me build a turbo autism supreme underground bunker? Maybe with secret entraces and traps and such?
Fans: God please we want to watch that and will pay you for the privilege
>... No. But maybe watch every other Minecraft stream and you might catch a kino impromptu collab.

It's baffling honestly. It's not like she hasn't gotten feedback.

>> No.11993850

Bae's inclined a ton hasn't she? I remember all the doomposting about her, now she pulls 10k+ during JP primetime.

>> No.11993891

well her excuse is that shes testing and tweaking that new pc she just bought

>> No.11993905

I hope so. Moona as camera/team leader will be disastrous.

>> No.11993914

Bae has completely righted her ship via networking and a good work ethic. And improved sound settings.

>> No.11993946

She joins lots of people and appears on streams in other channels.
Is an interesting take and shows that you dont need to stream 24/7 to get numbers.

>> No.11993957

The funny thing is, it occurred me that if I were Kronii I would stream the building and testing of the new PC. I bet that would get great numbers, would be pretty novel for an EN stream. She could do the black glove gimmick that the other holos do, or even just talk about it with no live camera feed.

>> No.11993980

Irys would be the most competent on their side i think

>> No.11994018

She would be worried about scuff and would destroy the vod if it happened. See the dont talk or we explode collab

>> No.11994039

you'd doxx yourself out in the first week I bet

>> No.11994053

She's still benefiting from her strong debut, the algorithm, and clippers. She'd need to take much bigger breaks before that cycle degrades significantly. Even if the content isn't on her channel she's very clipable

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