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https://twitter.com/fwiz/status/1454078781006618628?s=21
The value of (You)r loyalty will be nothing, and you will like it

>> No.12197729

>>12197707
Why do people care so much about this? It's extra money for the vtuber.

>> No.12197736

Great. I can drop 1K on gifted Kson memberships so the Zhangs can join her membership streams.

>> No.12197749

Do gifted subs mean I can freeload on the back of posturing simps?

>> No.12197758

Finally, it’s time we greychads are given what we deserve.

>> No.12197768

>>12197707
YES I CAN FINALLY SEE THE REACTIONS TO MY CHUUBAS WATCHALONGS WITHOUT HAVING TO PAYPIG!

>> No.12197776

>>12197729
>why do ---> people <---
nobody here knew until this sperg made a thread

>> No.12197833

>>12197776
I saw it posted earlier in the numbers thread too. Might be the same guy though. But in general whenever gifted memberships come up people bitch endlessly about it. Just because it's a thing from twitch so it's automatically bad?

>> No.12197840

Time to pay up lil piggies. Daddy needs his membership.

>> No.12197846

>>12197707
i'm going to gift 100s of memberships in ARS and there's nothing you can do about it

>> No.12197853

whats a gift membershit?
I get membership if I comment in a livestream?

>> No.12197902
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12197902

>say something based in chat
>chuba laughs and gifts you a membership
>paypigs seethe
god does it feel good

>> No.12197913

>>12197736
what happens in the membership streams?

>> No.12197927

>>12197902
Simps gift membership not streamers if I understand correctly.

>> No.12197943

>>12197913
sex asmr

>> No.12198017

>>12197853
Someone pays for memberships and they are randomly given to people watching the stream, so random retards and antis have a chance to obtain membership by doing literally nothing. You can also gift a membership to a certain person of your choice.

>> No.12198035

>>12197902
>>12197853
It's simps that buy extra memberships, those memberships get handed out to random people in chat. Just like on Twitch.
It's a terrible idea for youtube memberships because you get more than just emotes. Idiots will hand out memberships to antis who will proceed to shit up chat when vtubers turn on members only chat due to spam. I hope it can be disabled.

>> No.12198090

>>12198035
Shut up this is between me and my Rosebuddies. Let them pay for me if they feel like it. Right buddies?
I bet Rosemi will be so grateful when she sees you go the extra mile to promote her.

>> No.12198104

>>12198035
They can just ban anyone misbehaving in member streams. There's not enough "antis" for anyone but maybe Aqua for that to ever be a problem. Still allowing it to be disabled is seems fine.

>> No.12198149

>>12198035
Can't wait to buy a membership of every holomem for Kiara's and Mori's roommate!

>> No.12198248

>>12198017
>>12198035
>random
So there's only 0.0000001% chance for poorfag like me to get free Fubuki membership?
Geez.

>> No.12198309

>anti gets free access to official discord

>> No.12198330

>>12198309
>>12198104

>> No.12198355

>>12197707
>pic
The more I see Reine acting smug or condescending, the more I want to stick my fist up her asshole.

>> No.12198359

>>12197749
yes

>> No.12198365

>>12198309
If the pedos from discord complain enough the chuuba could just turn it off.

>> No.12198390

>>12198309
You have to pay for discord?

>> No.12198422

>>12198390
A lot of sanctioned discords require membership to say anything.

>> No.12198448

>>12198248
No. On average Fubuki has 7732 viewers, you are one of those so that's already 0.0129%. But then you have to take into account the fact that of those 7732 many already are members + the fact that people usually gift like 5-10 or even 50 subs at once, on twitch at least, so you're chances are pretty OK if you actually always watch Fubuki

>> No.12198464

>>12198390
for official private Hololive girls discords yes

>> No.12198465

>>12198309
>official discord closes due to influx of anti raids
sounds amazing honestly

>> No.12198502
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12198502

wait there is a chance I could access polka, matuli or rushia crying/mental breakdown streams without paying?

>> No.12198523

>>12198422
I dont understand discord culture, but i feel like its a 4chan for minors. A safe place to be a bad person.

>> No.12198546

>>12198502
Well I feel like whats more likely is that those streams/posts just stop happening

>> No.12198545

>>12197707
>https://twitter.com/fwiz/status/1454078781006618628?s=21
>Improved Live Discoverability
They're the ones that fucked it up in the first place

>> No.12198582

>>12198422
>>12198464

That's kind of shitty. Discord communities are pretty awful most of the time though, I don't imagine people are missing anything.

>> No.12198682

>>12197729
>Why do people care so much about this? It's extra money for the vtuber.
People can gift antis, schizos and leakers

>> No.12198699

>>12198546
or they make them T2

>> No.12198703

>>12198582
that's the whole point of private discord communities with those holo girls can keep their gachikoi at check more effectively than on twitter and respond to their worries efficiently
they aren't for regular viewers

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12198730

B-BUT MY GFE ASMR STREAMZ!!!!!!!111

>> No.12198733

Nooooooo
My oshi will love me less if niggers start subbing for free (yeah she loves me because of 5 bucks a month)

>> No.12198737

>>12197707
>The value of (You)r loyalty
Is still measurable and provable with your badge and the duration of your membership.

>> No.12198747

>>12198523
More like IRC with better bots and takes up way too much RAM.

>> No.12198783

do holos have even official private discords?

>> No.12198813

>>12198703
Holos have private discords for members? I'm memebered to two Holos and two non-holos, and the only discords I know about are the non-holos. I just thought Hololive didn't do official discords.

>> No.12198835

>>12198783
I've never heard of this. Sounds like a vwhores thing.
Unless ENs do it , because I never subbed to any of them.

>> No.12198876
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12198876

I hate that this basically devalues intimate members content

>> No.12198885

>>12198783
usually it's unofficial official

>> No.12198887

>>12198682
Those people can also pay $5 or even less if they use a VPN and do it in monopoly money, it's a very minor barrier to anyone but the most casual of asshole.

>> No.12198924

>>12197902
Not how it works, gifts member are memberships pre paid by other users and the gifts are given randomly.
Granted if the chat at th moment is like 90% green you still have quite a good chance to get one.

>> No.12198950

>gifting memberships instead of membering with multiple dummy accounts

>> No.12198953

>>12198885
Do any of the Holos actually post on them? I know Kiara lurks on hers but none of the other have ever brought them up, except in cases like Ina responding to hers buying her a billboard. She never mentioned actually looking at the discord though.

>> No.12198985

>>12198953
I think Subaru said she infiltrated hers a long ass time ago.

>> No.12198989

>>12198783
No, but the unofficial ones are massive and Kiara is at least somewhat familiar with hers.

>> No.12198995

>>12198953
There is no official discord, people are larping. Cover contract forbids being that intimate with fans

>> No.12199019 [DELETED] 

>>12197776
We knew this was coming for at least a year

>> No.12199070

>>12198248
If it ends like on Twitch the people gifting memberships do it in huge bulk AND with ARS, actually on youtube gifting with monopoly money might be easier.
You can expect to see almost every stream "Mr ARS gifted 100 Memberships!" popping on screen and there might be multiple Mr ARS.
I have like 12 twitch subs and i paid for 0 of them, when hey expire you just need to keep lurking in the chat until you get "renewed"

>> No.12199090

>>12198995
Sorry, I forgot he was talking about holo specifically. Yeah, the "usually" in my post was retarded.

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12199105

>>12198783
probably mean something like this

>> No.12199138

This seems like a good idea to give vtubers more money. What's the problem?

>> No.12199140

If they're smart, they're going to make it so that T2+ members only get members exclusive streams to filter out any T1 gifted memberships. That means more money for your oshi and any trolls or plebs are filtered out.

>> No.12199213

>>12198995
Towa literally talked with her fans on discord one time

>> No.12199265

>>12197707
Must have stolen the tech from the twitch leaks.

>> No.12199267

>people dropping 500 usd worth of ARS gifts to give everyone in the chat memberships
It's over

>> No.12199362

>>12199138
it reduces the exclusivity of member content

>> No.12199368

>>12198813
They dont, the "official" holo discord was a community discord. they only call it "official" because towa visited there

>> No.12199470

>>12199362
Who cares? Do you become a member of your favorite vtuber because you want to support them or because you want to gatekeep shit from other people?

>> No.12199499

>>12199470
Both.

>> No.12199537 [DELETED] 

>>12199470
Never membered anyone, but obviously the more of the former since the latter can be done through various other means already

>> No.12199617

>>12199470
Are you retarded? Obviously both.
The last decade has taught me that you need to gatekeep hobbies at any cost and that everything is justified in doing so.

>> No.12199817

>>12199470
Never membered anyone, however I think it's both but tending more towards the latter since the former can be done through various other means already

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>>12199470
Both.

>> No.12200226

>>12199470
Both
I want to support them and feel special compared to non members

>> No.12200800

>>12197707
Based. Imagine paying for membership while other people get it for free. If I had nay memberships, I'd cancel them all and just roll the gacha from now on.

>> No.12201734

>>12198448
Wait, how does this "gifted membership" work? I know the basic, but are you telling me that people will constantly throw away 25-250$ (assuming the lowest tier, and the membership lasts for a month) for fun?

>> No.12201820

If your oshi made it so that only $10 memberships gets you access to members streams would you upgrade?

>> No.12201878

>>12201820
I would stop paying

>> No.12201914

>>12201734
>throw away 25-250$ (assuming the lowest tier, and the membership lasts for a month) for fun?
They do so on twitch, maybe not every stream but yeah, everystream should have atleast 20 gifts on average

>> No.12201993

>>12201734
>I am an Argentinian
>In my currency, memberships are dirt cheap
>I purchase say, 10 gifted memberships
>When I hit the button those 10 gifted memberships get distributed to 10 random non-members watching the stream
>They automatically expire in 30 days or can be renewed by the recipient if they so desire
Simple as.

>> No.12202088

>>12201820
There is no amount she could make it to dissuade me from being a member. I'm not rich by any means, I only have around 17k saved up but I would throw it all away in an instant for her, no questions asked. I don't buy merch though lol.

>> No.12202471

>>12201820
You can probably gift t3 members lmao

>> No.12202492

>>12199470
Gatekeeping is a good thing.

>> No.12202621

Did they say when this is going into effect?

>> No.12202809

>>12197707
great way to completely kill great membership content

>> No.12205352

But I can get Holomyth content for free anyways
Now NijisanjiEN...

>> No.12205467

>>12199470
unironically both
i dont want fucking spics spamming my membership chats with their ESL and 15 emoji emotes

>> No.12208418

the members only asmr streams...

>> No.12209082

I will open every possible stream in holodex to farm random memberships

>> No.12209182

>>12197707
Don't holos get to keep all the money from memberships and they don't have to give Holo Live a cut? So this is good, they can push memberships and make more money and Holo gets to leech off them less.

>> No.12209230

>>12205467
imagine giving money to millionaires

>> No.12209511

>>12209230
good thing they arent millionaires

>> No.12209760

>>12208418
they are officially dead if this goes through
the spicy asmr will now probably only appear in voice packs

>> No.12209823

>>12209230
imagine not giving everything you have to your kami-oshi

>> No.12210480

>>12209230
she deserves all of my money

>> No.12210589

>>12198035
>because you get more than just emotes
It's the same on Twitch retard

>> No.12211310

>>12197902
That's not how it works, nor how it works on twitch. So when you say it feels good, it makes little sense, because you've never experienced the feeling and you never will, no matter how many chad images you post alongside your messages.

>> No.12212466

>>12199470
Both

>> No.12212651

>>12198887
Most of them are casuals, that's the point.
Very few people are spiteful enough to GIVE MONEY to someone they actively hate on, just to fuck them over. The ones that are can't realistically be dealt with unless you hide behind obscene prices that no cunt is going to pay anyway.
Imagine giving everyone uzis Yeah, sure, you can buy one, but you need to go through a bunch of hoops.

>> No.12213731

and I give a shit why? now I can get free shit for watching holomems

>> No.12215846

>>12198703
Which holos even have membership gated "official" discords?

>> No.12216432

>>12201820
>From 50 cents to 1 dollar
Eh it's not a big deal

>> No.12216611

>>12197707
what is a gifted membership?

>> No.12216646

>>12201820
Yes (Ina) but I'd drop one of my secondary memberships (Reine/Pomu/IRyS).

>> No.12222579

>>12216611
Other people can give you membership status. (Your consent is not needed)

>> No.12222897

>>12201914
on big streamers, with like 20k viewers+ you'll see people regularly drop 50+ gift subs. I don't know of any sites that track this, but I've seen streams where in like 4-5 hours people will drop like 200-300 gift subs. They only go to unsubbed people. So your odds could be as good as 1:100 if not better. Depends how big the simps wallets are.

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12223764

You enjoy our suffering and now you will make profits out of it.

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12224400

gift me reine membersimp

>> No.12225048

>>12198104
>They can just ban anyone misbehaving in member streams.
this would be great if my oshi had ever banned more than, like, three people

>> No.12225182

>>12198783
no. the discordfaggots will never fully admit this, and resort to mindbending horseshit terminology like "unofficial official". there are unofficial fan discords, some larger, some smaller, all completely and absolutely unofficial in every way. there is no hololive fan discord that is any more "official" than 4chan is the "official" imageboard for a hololive member.

>> No.12225479

>>12197707
The fact they inacted this before the ability to raid other streamers shows Google really is more about grubbing money than making a decent streaming platform

>> No.12225658

>>12225479
>raid
go back faggot

>> No.12225729

>>12222579
hmm weird

>> No.12226141

>>12197729
they might not share as much about themselves in members only streams. chubas are a lot more comfortable in members only streams and it feels more personal; if randos gets in, i doubt it'll be the same anymore. just looks at all the gray comments and see how low effort or even antagonistic they can be.
>>12198887
it helps as a ESL/third world filter. kinda like how games that cost money tend to have less cheaters than F2P games. it's not 100% but still a lot better than nothing.

>> No.12226379

>>12197707
gifted subs should not be able to vote or comment on members only stream/posts. only watch. otherwise, it's gonna be a mess, like trolling votes or losing value for actual members.

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>>12225182
Daily reminder Anya is the only HoloID who doesn't acknowledge her fan discord. She even ignores its shills trying to invite people into it. She even made a membership-only free-chat room for Melhomies to hang out in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Mg6dv76q8

>> No.12226524

>>12226420
indescribably based

>> No.12226577

Didn't Azki used to have an official discord connected to fanbox or something?

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>>12226577
Still exists, but no one new can join. Haven't seen AZKi log in or post, but the frog teases upcoming things in there. Only gets a post a week or so on average, though, since it's 90% nips and the rest of us are just observers.

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