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12286711 No.12286711 [Reply] [Original]

So... are VTubers just NEETs? They're always doing 10 hour streams like it's nothing, as if they have literally nothing else to do that day. There's no way something like that would be possible if they had a job. That's setting aside your entire day for a video game.

>> No.12286725

More often then not, yes.

>> No.12286757

>>12286711
Turns out the people best equipped to entertain losers that spend too much time online are other losers that spend too much time online

>> No.12286801

For many of the ones you're talking about, that is the job.

>> No.12286817

>>12286711
>Mori
>NEET

>> No.12286862

>>12286711
>VTubers
>doing 10 hour streams like it's nothing
*stop reading*

>> No.12286991

>>12286711
I wish Fauna was a NEET and can do long streams.

>> No.12287516

>>12286711
Only indies. Corp ones are employed.

>> No.12287892
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>>12286711
>never leave your room and spend 6 days a week entertaining thousands of horny latin americans and indonensians and chinese for hours
This is a hobby that destroys your personal relationships, personal hygiene, and dietary habits. And yet they still do it. Why?

>> No.12287904

>>12287892
What if you don't have any of those to begin with?

>> No.12287940
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>>12286817
More like Mori NEAT!

>> No.12287976

>>12286711
Do you know what NEET even stands for?

>> No.12288025

>>12286711
Do you even know what a NEET is?

>> No.12288184

>>12286711
>makes a decent point
>posts a picture of the only member of Myth that leaves their house to do work

>> No.12288253

>>12286711
Yes, Kiara is NEET.
There is no way non neet would waste time to read loser superchat all day long.

>> No.12288266

>>12288184
The fact that she has a job makes it all the more baffling that she has so much time for streams.

>> No.12288287

>>12286711
I really don't like these chibis, please stop posting them.

>> No.12288289

NEET is an acronym for Not in Education, Employment or Training.
If the vtuber is any of this, no, they’re not a NEET.

>> No.12288362

>>12286711
>So... are VTubers just NEETs?
oh my sweet sweet summer child

>> No.12288406

>>12286711
See Ayame then

>> No.12288665

>NEET
>Not in Employment, Education, or Training
the term you want is hikikomori/ shut-in

>> No.12289120

>>12288406
Ayame has the streaming schedule of someone who actually genuinely has a job and doesn't have time to stream.

>> No.12289214

>>12288253
How does one get to become a NEET while being as talkative and outgoing as Kiara?

>> No.12289284

>>12288266
>>12288184
Pretty sure she's full time now since around the anniversary.
Or, well. "Full time" if we consider her music production separate from her chuuba job, which is kiiiiiiiiiind of dodgy when she does all of that under her streamer persona with the others retired for months at this point.
>>12286711
1) As the others said, if that's your job you're not a NEET.
2) A fair few work day jobs or study. Holos are an outlier because Cover has massive cultural weight and pays a salary and also very specifically scouts for broken people.

>> No.12289330

>>12289120
>>12288406
How does Ayame even do what she does?
Does she predate the 3 Streams a week clause?
Is she the reason for it?

>> No.12289341

>>12289284
Hang on. She has more than 2?

>> No.12289370

>>12289330
There is no such clause and frankly it is appalling that you are still claiming there is directly after Sana took a 3 week break from streaming with no complaints from Cover.

>> No.12289486

>>12289370
>there is no such clause

>> No.12289488

>>12286711
Streaming is their job.

>> No.12289507
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>>12288287

>> No.12289751

>>12286711
If I were in Hololive or Nijisanji then I absolutely would be streaming full time. Most indies or small corpo vtubers I know however have actual jobs.

>> No.12289958

>>12286711
How can they spent 2-3 hour in a game for weeks on end. I spent 40 hour at the beginning but I get burnt out quick.

>> No.12289959

>>12289751
Mind you I don't think this says anything about their quality as a streamer, but I do not think Nijisanji streamers have enough income to justify a full time job.

>> No.12289988

>>12289958
Like what game?

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>>12286711

>> No.12290079

>>12289988
Right, now it's pathfinder wrath of the righteous.

>> No.12290414

>>12288266
Not trying to be either condescending or suck Mori's dick too hard, but she has insane time management, my friend's a freelancer and she reminds me of him a lot. The type of person that knows how much time it does to do x, calculates travel times for everything, goes to bed and wakes up at the same time every day, multiple alarms, schedules time for "fun", but only 30/60/90 mins at max, etc. It's noticeable in early collabs because she was juggling 3 jobs, but even now she clearly has time partitioned. She cut streams to 5 a week instead of 6 which helped a ton, and even on her "vacations" she's working on lyrics or MVs and is around for meetings. Meanwhile, most of Hololive goes to bed and wakes up whenever and updates twitter if they feel like streaming that day.

>> No.12291532

>>12290414
How long until she snaps?

>> No.12291929

>>12289214
Good streamers have talents i suppose

>> No.12293226

By the very definition of the word, literally 0 vtubers are NEETs except Sana

>> No.12293509

>>12286711
they are employed

>> No.12297641

>>12290414
I've never seen anybody put it so well. Thank you and I'll be studying this to implement it in my own life.

>> No.12299647
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12299647

Ame embodies the NEET lifestyle. This girl:
>Never steps outside, unless it's to walk her dogs ort when forced into a family outing.
>Never goes to the store
>Is scared of talking on the phone
>Always grocery shops online and orders uber eats for breakfast and dinner
>Spends most of her waking day lying in bed staring at tiktok or youtube, or browsing netflix
>Hobbies include making aquariums for her fishies and reading books about simulated reality
>The rest of her time is spent either watching HoloJPs way into the late night or streaming herself

>> No.12299972

>>12286711
no clue and don't care

If they have the vtuber Job in the first place they're used to talking to internet strangers, not being a neet.

Frankly it's about the generation and technology factor more than "are they a neet?" no boomer would get a vtuber career they go talk to real people in person

that said Mori and Kiara seem like the most normie, they probably hate their job and wanna see people in person

>> No.12300256

>>12287892
$$$

>> No.12300409

>>12299647
phones are fucking stupid anyway. I don't understand the boomer obsession with them
>but I want to hear your voice, so I can ask you to repeat yourself five times in the time it could have taken you to just type the thought out

>> No.12300485

How many unironic retarded people are in thread?
Corporate Vtubers aren't NEETs, this is literally their job. The ones that have side jobs as well as their streaming job get yelled at for not streaming enough.
Non corporate Vtubers who don't make much money can be NEETs since vtubing isn't a job, unless they're otherwise employed.
Hololive, Nijisanji, etc, those Vtubers have a variety of people that were in the past NEETs, or who did prior content creation as a hobby with a part time job so they actually survive, or a mix of varying between a NEET and employed.
But literally all corporate Vtubers right now are employed and by definition not neets, they're employed.

>> No.12302687

>>12287892
I want to smell Elira's stink

>> No.12303572

>>12300409
telephony is ingrained in their habits and expectations because that's an essential part of the world they grew up in and they're clinging to that instead of changing with the times. same with using snail mail for everything instead of using website accounts/electronic options for things like financial services. i haven't seen this behavior as much with gen x and millenials my age, i think because people in or entering middle age grew up during the rise of personal computing, which is an era more similar to how things are now. there are maybe some subtle differences cropping up though, like younger people not knowing how to use file structures with directories (folders) because they've lived in a world where searching is the go-to method for using files with long and easily-intelligible names instead of manually organizing files.

>> No.12304623

>>12291532
She won't, because she's the only holoEN member worth a shit. Every other member is an ironic weeb who hates their audience, while mori loves her fans and wants them to improve and win shit in their lives. It's why she sung about on the mountaintop or why she said 5%. She wants everyone to be as great as that 5%.

Deadbeats are self-improvement chads

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>>12304623
yeah but (You) aren't a chad and Your Boy hates you

>> No.12307664

>>12286711
NEET doesn't mean shut-in you moron.

>> No.12307728

>>12286711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8qrp58B0EQ

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>>12286711
>10 hour streams like it's nothing
What vtubers do you guys know who do this? I only know of korone and veibae having this reputation. Sorry I don't watch niji
Most others linger between 1 and 3 hours, and stream 3 or 4 days a week. Am I right in saying this?

>> No.12308701

>>12290414
Are you really saying that when she does a 10 hour stream of a game until she beats it, she specifically planned out her day with that long stream in mind and still manages to not throw off her sleep schedule?

>> No.12311171

>>12287940
haHA gottem

>> No.12313090

>>12308297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZNrgw2COg
It's literally her most recent stream.

>> No.12313147

>>12286711
indies? maybe
corpos? literally employed

>> No.12314242

>>12313090
>2 out of her last 20 streams are long ones
I could've gone beyond that but it's more than a month

>> No.12314417

>>12314242
The fact remains that I don't understand how she does a 10 hour stream without throwing off her schedule especially considering she has a job, which was my question to begin with.

>> No.12316682

>>12286711
I don't know what kind of vtubers you watch but i wish they did 10 hours stream with some frequency. For many, specially JP many days is a 1-2 hour stream and that's it

>> No.12316728

If vtubing is their job by definition they cannot be neet

>> No.12316946

>>12314417
The "other job" she has right now is freelancing and that ebbs and flows with if any of her contacts need work done. She quit her other jobs at the beginning of the year. Unless you are counting music production which is dumb because its like saying others like Kiara and Suisei are juggling two jobs as well when most people just roll all the duties into one job (Hololive).

>> No.12317019

>>12316946
So it's kinda like in Two and a Half Men where Charlie would just relax in his beach house and have sex with women and occasionally a job to make some music would fall in his lap, he'd make some money, then get back to having sex?

>> No.12317176

>>12287892
I don't need friends they disappoint me

>> No.12317389

>>12317176
I CAN SEE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY FROM HERE!

>> No.12318222

>>12304623
Don't choke on her cock

>> No.12325626

>>12318222
It is a lovely cock.

>> No.12325927

>>12289370
It's literally on the application. However it's more of a guideline and most likely doesn't apply after your first year's contract expires anyway.

>> No.12339303

>>12286711
>stream the equivalent of full time hours
>lol they don't have real jobs
You're a real smart one OP

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>>12303572
i'm interested to learn more about this "zoomers cant use file folders" phenomenon

>> No.12340511

>>12305614
>your boy
But she is a female???

>> No.12341261

>>12299647
she's literally me

>> No.12341551
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>>12286711
All of these internet meme jobs make proportionately a lot of money compared to the amount of 'work' they're doing, which is generally neither mentally strenuous nor physically demanding. So they can easily choose to make it their full job, instead of choosing to wagecuck at shartdonald's on the late shift with their co-workers Paco the Mexizuelan illegal and Chickeniqua the mother of several children.

>> No.12341660

>>12286711
Streaming for 10 hours is their job.

>> No.12341780
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12341780

>>12286711
My oshi isn't a neet, she's a fulltime computer engineer who streams early in the morning before she goes to work.

>> No.12341841

>>12341780
Isn't this Calli's oshi?

>> No.12342068

>>12341551

you're not entirely wrong but wrangling autists to get together for events like today definitely takes work

granted thats like every week for a ton of "real" jobs

>> No.12342429

>>12341841
She could be everyone's oshi, she's great.

>> No.12342968

>>12342429
I guess the fact that she's still relatively small scale even after receiving a shout out from Calli shows that big VTubers giving smaller VTubers shoutouts doesn't really have any effect, it's all on them how many fans they have.

>> No.12343634

>>12342068
Yes but it's still less of a strenuous affair that if she was the 'office project admin' or some other meme title and her job was the same except she can't be a cute anime girl and has to organize people over Zoom who would prefer to be masturbating and she only gets paid a fixed salary of 50k plus benefits.

>> No.12343681

>>12342968
Yeah. Milky's great but at the moment she can only do short 1-1.5 hour streams (she's going part time in december so she'll have more time to stream), and for some people her voice is a debuff but I enjoy her different voices.

Great singer, try out some of her Karaoke stream or her original songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoH7XRxcVoc

>> No.12344186

>>12343681
Is she Filipino? She sounds a lot like Millie. Similar name too, now that I type it out.

>> No.12344273

>>12344186
No, she's English. Currently living in Japan.

>> No.12344549

>>12286711
>if they had a job
>VRtubing is their job
>they vtube ~3-5 hours a day
>omg why are they working

>> No.12351334

>>12344549
?

>> No.12352248

>>12286711
No, they aren't NEETs in spirit. If they weren't vtubers or streamers, they would be working other jobs and earning an income. Many vtubers have a "grindset" and couldn't live a NEET lifestyle.

>> No.12352542

>>12289341
First 6 months or so she was: Vtubing, music stuff and teaching kids

>> No.12354250

>>12352542
Man. Imagine having Calli as a teacher.

>> No.12354311

>>12352248
And what is a grindset?

>> No.12355810

>>12354311
And why did they change Jet Set Radio's name to Jet Grind Radio?

>> No.12356149

>>12286711
Would you get a regular job if you can just read superchats and make tens of thousands of dollars every month?

>> No.12356574

>>12289284
>Scouts for broken people
My almonds are rustled.
I can see this... reasons why seem fairly obvious, but if you have anything subtle, or to simply express, I'd like to read it.

>> No.12356855

At least when Hololive streams for 10 hours they know there's a lot of people watching it. I have someone on my subs, don't watch her very much, but she's been doing an endurance stream for almost an entire day from the looks of it. To 12 people. At that point it's more like you just decided to spend an entire day gaming on your own and recorded the video of it.

>> No.12357960

>>12286711
Korone is a Tokyo U graduate. Hard to be a NEET graduating from there.

>> No.12358884

>>12357960
Hard but not impossible. Just because you graduate from university doesn't mean things are going to go swimmingly for you afterwards.

>> No.12363108

>>12356574
1) It's something of a running gag
2) This running gag became much less of a gag after we got reports of people who didn't make it into Council saying that they ask, among other things, for childhood traumas and similar things on the application.

>> No.12364076

vtubing is a job for most corpo girls so they literally can't be neets

>> No.12365000

>>12286711
>pic???????
How can Mori be a NEET when she's literally doing the oldest job(whoring,in public no less)?

>> No.12367144

>>12286711
I'm gonna kill all ravitards

>> No.12367208

The ones that make bank tend to fucking blow 4-5 figures on gacha. Makes me wonder how many are poor 20 somethings than found a pot of gold on the ground and doesn't know how to moderate spending and invest.

>> No.12370974

>>12286711
thats literally not what being a neet is

>> No.12371259

>>12367208
>gacha
Unironically if they werent japanese theyd be hardcore gambling addicts

>> No.12372777

>>12363108
What is this about "getting reports"? Isn't the application free for anyone to see? Do they send you a second application if you pass the first phase or something?

>> No.12374678

>>12372777
Yeah, as I thought, no answers because I just blew a massive hole in yet another stupid narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRkgO02Uy5U

>> No.12378023

>>12367144
Weird place to sperg out about Breath of the Wild.

>> No.12379264

>>12325927
NTA but the whole first year contract where you have to do 3 streams a week is a rrat with no proof. The application post isn't what's written on your contract.
It was in the contract of 2nd gen and later removed, Subaru talked about it multiple times on stream.
With a bit of truth, the rrat was born because of EOP and clipfag who can't translate.

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