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/nasfaqg/ - NASFAQ General - Buy azki edition

Thread for the discussion of NASFAQ, a financial market simulator based on holding of coins that represent the members of hololive and some of their mamas.

https://nasfaq.biz/info - READ THIS. No seriously read it, you faggot.

This is a fake stock market game meant for FUN, not a real stock market (cryptofags will not be happy here either, no real money involved, NO you won't get better at stocks from this).

Research 1: https://schedule.hololive.tv
Research 2: https://holo.poi.cat
Research 3: https://hololive.jetri.co

F.U.C.K. Reports (Market-based reports, updated daily): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104gsM_vZz1MuhJxfuYeT_xNFC1Qk1h7zeLVoCyFsrSw/edit?usp=sharing
"real oshiboard" spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c-ioaVcHWb4kMHXF8kqND9mZ_O84P-xLzbDoY-JGmrk/edit?usp=sharing
(embed) *chuu!*
https://files.catbox.moe/9e0tpa.webm (embed) (embed) (push) (push)
revised Haaton wallet analyzer sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ou-iTo4fF9YcPWKZZtqsG-SjUJDWBJ20Wxrrwc2-he8/edit?usp=sharing
Mikofag's humble attempt to archive some of the thread OC: https://mega.nz/folder/NeQghDqL#mSL13SdqKjKgYVjFCgF6Iw

>> No.12665943
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where wah
oi retard, you forgot something

>> No.12665969

ohh I need to shit

>> No.12665981

Adjustments aren't for another hour.

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>> No.12665989

no adjustment today.

>> No.12665992

ohhhh konnui love

>> No.12666018

konnui hate

>> No.12666037

Ohhh Konnui

>> No.12666158

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>> No.12666190

Adjustments doko?

>> No.12666202

Come back in an hour, I'm still shitting

>> No.12666223

this is gonna be the longest shit of my career

>> No.12666240

dst hate. honk change it to 8:05

>> No.12666260

adjust your shit schedule

>> No.12666274

I want to bury my face deep inside Azki's pits

>> No.12666282

are you retarded? never mind don't answer that

>> No.12666287
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>> No.12666318

Yes, I am on the Nene oshiboard. How'd you know?

>> No.12666351
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I woke up for THIS? for fucks sake I wanted to do adjustments and crawl back to bed after like 48 hours of nothing but autism

>> No.12666362


>> No.12666411

but seriosuly honk and devs, there is no reason to follow dst fuckery.

>> No.12666444
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>> No.12666462

Servers are on East Coast time. Why wouldn't it follow DST?

>> No.12666480

honk, move adjustment 3:30a.m. that's when I shit

>> No.12666499

Now that the dust has settled, why did bread turn into a huge fucking faggot?

>> No.12666506
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>the game is dead
I’m finally free

>> No.12666534

a. DST is retarded
b. The playerbase is across the entire world so following dst for fucking america literally fucks over everyone else.
Do we really have to go back through the entire timezone arc again? For fucking dst? We shouldn't be following dst, the adjustment time shouldn't be arbitrarily changing because some fucking timezone decided to follow a retarded as fuck concept.

>> No.12666541

because players agreed on a certain time once upon a time. it doesn't matter if a certain shithole wants dst.

>> No.12666543

bread's cunny is no longer being stuffed

>> No.12666564

Honk, make double adjustments for 1 week and then remove them for another week please it would make the game better

>> No.12666575


>> No.12666579

fuck you honk

>> No.12666588

Honk, randomize adjustments. Set something up to pick a random hour every day for adjustments to occur.

>> No.12666601

fuck honk

>> No.12666622

Give me Yogiri coin you bastard

>> No.12666628

bread's menhera arc?

>> No.12666640
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honk don't follow dst it's a pain having to do adjustments at 11pm here

>> No.12666646

Honk, randomize adjustments over the entire week. Have some days with multiple adjustments and some with none

>> No.12666668

Honk make a schedule for your asmr stream you whore

>> No.12666670

honk remove adjustments

>> No.12666678
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Looks pretty based to me, maybe stop living in Africa

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Adjustments will not be changed until bread stops being a faggot.

>> No.12666733


>> No.12666738

Oh so its the literal opposite. 3rd world shitholes do not follow DST while every civilized nation does

>> No.12666743

Adjustment is finally back at 16:05, I am fine with it.

>> No.12666744

Yes, until someone marry her

>> No.12666764

somebody fuck the menhera out of bread please

>> No.12666779

Read it better, retards. The majority of the world STOPPED using DST.

>> No.12666794

none of the world that matters though, fuck off pajeet

>> No.12666806

Pretty sure Europe changes their clocks differently, though that may be American >education.

>> No.12666809

yeah, the aforementiond 3rd world "countries"

>> No.12666812
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>3rd world shitholes
>Civilized nation

>> No.12666821

I'm sorry, American, but America is literally the worlds worst 3rd world country

>> No.12666823

your chink masters stopped using dst. pls adjust immediately

>> No.12666837


>> No.12666863

The key is right there.
>Blue - Currently changes clocks and employs DST (as of October 2020)
>Purple - Previously employed DST but does not anymore
>Uncolored - Has never used DST or changed clocks.
I thought I was on /vt/ not /dng/.

>> No.12666877

Nobody from those two nations play nasfaq

>> No.12666898

holy fuck. are you stupid or something?

>> No.12666918
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I beg to differ

>> No.12666954

Are you saying poland is not a civilized nation?

>> No.12666976

>3rd world shitholes

>> No.12667057
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11PM adjustment time isn't good

>> No.12667070
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Why wasn't there this much fo a kerfuffle over DST last time the clocks changed?
Wrong answers only, please, or you're oshi gets it.

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im polish and i play this game hello nice to meet u

maybe my nationality is the explanation as to why im super retarded

>> No.12667140

the polish people don't exist.

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Part of the reason why I don't care about my position on the leaderboard is because adjustments were always at an inconvenient time, anyway.
Seeing other people be inconvenienced as well amuses me.

>> No.12667259

Hello Devchama. I fell asleep.
>inflation problem
It's not a fuckin problem. Hyperinflation was a problem. Inflation is at a sustainable rate.
>asking for this unironically right after we had a day where Susan didn't post fucking numbers until 4 AM

>> No.12667338

>>asking for this unironically right after we had a day where Susan didn't post fucking numbers until 4 AM
That shit happens regardless and it rarely ever actually corrects itself like it did. It's the exception on how susan bullshit works

>> No.12667581

>>asking for this unironically right after we had a day where Susan didn't post fucking numbers until 4 AM
literally just do your reps, you don't need poi

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same, honk please stop using DST

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OK, but
>11PM adjustment time isn't good
Yet it's OK to want it at fucking 1 AM for a sizeable portion of the playerbase? The game's called "nasfaq"
>The NASDAQ Stock Exchange is open Monday through Friday from 9:30am to 4:00pm Eastern Standard Time (GMT-05:00)
Make adjustment 25 minutes later just to piss off the morons that keep asking for it at 1 AM.

>> No.12667683

Simple, it's intended for gameplay purposes to improve the game itself. I'm not doing this discussion but the meanings between that and the current problem are two different things.

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slavs are a good people, don't let anyone - especially not fucking mutt burgers - tell you otherwise.

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thus begins the week of probably not buying my oshi

>> No.12667892

>no polish gf to play nasfaq.biz with
why even live at this point its not worth it

>> No.12667920

you know what to do

>> No.12667923
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you want it at 1 AM because it works better for (You) than 9 AM. you keep repeating this, you've yet to prove how
>people have 8-12 hours to act on the information blah blah
case in point - we don't see a massive fire sale on the leadup to getting susan'd, and I've pointed this out before
>just let susan fuck us all the time
great idea too

>> No.12667947

nta but i just want to remind you that timezones exists

>> No.12667994

Why does DST even exists

>> No.12668004
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I know they do, but the ppl asking for 1 AM adjustment are worse than the moron states pushing for year-round DST
because my countrymen are idiots

>> No.12668010

This is by far the stupidest change that Honk made to the game

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time to sell all my miko

>> No.12668044

Ooooooh sex, sosex

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>> No.12668087

>don't see a massive fire sale on the leadup to getting susan'd
Because it's just smarter to hold, nigger. The major thing it impacts is what people buy. Of course it won't cause people to sell because people aren't really selling at all period anymore.

>>just let susan fuck us all the time
Susan is only occasionally, moron. We went months without it and have gotten it a few times in the past few months. It's a random event that occurs that will happen regardless and it recovering has only happened once. Every other close time it has recovered before what would have been adjustment.

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>> No.12668180

None of this shit proves that a 1 AM adjustment time will "improve the game" other than a thinly veiled attempt to mask that it's a more convenient time of day for you. Try again.
>it impacts what people buy
It does not, not in the fucking slightest. People buy red until its green. Oshicoiners buy regardless. PERIOD. What a small handful of motherfuckers do with "muh insider information" once numbers are out isn't enough to even impact the graphs on the market, and you've got a few months of Market Report to look at if you don't believe me.

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it was done in ye olden times so northern european farmers would get their daylight more in the morning active times, otherwise they'd have to be inactive for several hours because they couldn't see shit and their animals were still asleep as well.

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breddy red. nice.

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sports festival...
she's live to 70k people AGAIN

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>> No.12668332
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>Buying 20 coins
>Selling 10
>Projected net gain of 34k per cycle
God I love the sports festival.

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>net gain per cycle

>> No.12668403

>Try again.
It does. Plain and simple. People picked it up on the week adjustment changed and people still complain about the problem even now. There is no need to make an argument because people have already made a clear case about this topic dozens of times throughout the months.

> People buy red until its green
Not everyone is fucking ultra rich who have no need to play the game. Most people who aren't sitting at the top still have to do smart adjustment plays and changing the time helps encourage it because right now if you want to do them you just wait for the numbers to come in. There is no reason to watch or track streams with the current time which was kinda, you know, the entire purpose of this game in the first place. The game is simply more exciting and interesting for anyone who actually still plays the game with the old time and not the new time.

But there is no need for the discussion since it's already been had tons of times and the devs have already decided on their opinions for it.

>> No.12668404

>nachoneko at almost 15% nice
It's fucking obscene how no matter what happens Holo and Mori always stay around 15% and 20%

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>ame above 15%

>> No.12668442

What in the name of all that is decent are you buying and not selling? There's no possible way your SportsFes coins are at less than +3k right now, and that's all they'll make in divvies.

>> No.12668468
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her last week was halloween so her divvies exploded. don't fall for it.

>> No.12668477

her last divs were inflated by halloween collab and the myth song, I bet in reality she is around 10%

>> No.12668496

prob multicoin

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dude are you blind? The market is deep fucking red dig in

>> No.12668536
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Not enough.

>> No.12668582


>> No.12668585
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I'll have to wait for the eventual break time, onsen trip and inevitable fall from heights to 5x mikochi, need to preserve some money here

>> No.12668600

>he can't into math

>> No.12668609

too poor to multicoin

>> No.12668619
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>he's buying less than 150 botan today
stay absolutely poor

>> No.12668621

I might have spent way too much on the auctions

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>wait for numbers to come in
>no reason to watch streams
>spending more effort and words to say "I don't want to say it, it's been said" than actually saying it
>saying it anyways
Why did you even bother making this post? Nobody fucking watches streams, this is /vt/
>"needing" to have the numbers to make "smart plays", leading directly into
>Not everyone is fucking ultra rich
Contradictions, much?
>being poor enough to benefit from having numbers to make "smart" plays
>been around long enough to remember "old" adjustment time
I doubt anyone like this exists. But they should just quit, clearly they fucking suck at this game. And their opinion doesn't matter because they're poor.
You want 1 AM because it's more convenient for you. Nut up and fucking say it you pussyfooting ninny.

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Before I sleep

>> No.12668734

You were warned. Why did you not listen?

>> No.12668736
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gonna get some cheap braps soon yeah

>> No.12668760
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while it's true that adjustments matter a bit less the more rich you get, the poor people get to ride our neuron-boosts by buying in early for absolutely free. basically we already pay tax for your gain.

>> No.12668782

Nut up and just admit you are an american who just doesn't want to have the old adjustment despite the obvious gameplay benefits from it.

>> No.12668828
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i do not care for the financial repercussions.

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if I don't check poi now, no need to check it at old adjustment times as well.
if you have the autism to check poi and plan out your "genius plays" 10+ hours in advance, you have the capability to just scroll through your subscriptions and do a quick evaluation what might do well and what won't.
It's not like a zatsudan will pull 30k+ people etc.
you learn that shit with time.

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abayo kenzoku

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I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with that
>no you
Seriously? Found the Australian.
They aren't "obvious", I just pissed all over your entire argument. Adjustment is at 1 AM FOR YOU right now. And you're pissing and moaning this loudly about it, of course I don't want it at fucking 1 AM for me.

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quads of truth, now "old adjustment time" niggers can fuck off

>> No.12668938

>Only 900~1200 lower than her usual pricetag.
I'm buying, but it doesn't seem low enough to justify buying more than 144.

>> No.12668946
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>owned: 11
another one bites the dust
me neither, it balances out

>> No.12668948

stop shitting the threads adjustment retards

>> No.12668992
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I need her for the stats first and foremost, also she's usually 8k-10k so this is like 50% sale.
we're playing a game here, fuck off

>> No.12669015

ohhhhh konnui

>> No.12669023

>bites the dust
why? they will get funded by matower. no need to worry for sakura

>> No.12669025
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he got a 50m stimmy, he'll live.

>> No.12669088

>$484,848 expected returns

>> No.12669138

it was never about the returns.

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btw, if anyone uses the "next adjustment" counter in their analysis sheets, you'll have to change the timezone of the sheet from +8 to +7 for it to work again
here's the code for that cell

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They are obvious retard. You didn't piss over shit there is just no value wasting time repeating this timeloop yet again. Especially when the devs have already decided what they want to do. Go armdev if you want to timeloop at least people sometimes make funny posts from that.

Not everyone you disagree with is australian, dumbass.

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>complaining about timelooping
>was part of the timeloop
>t. retard
reddit spacing, repeatedly
"obvious" - can't point them out

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oh I see it's time to fuck off back to the other autism game

>> No.12669393

where the hell is that

>> No.12669461

apparently the haaton(?) who brought that thing to the thread was from hong kong we found out when tampa rebuilt it with me

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flash1: Buying stun seed 3k

>> No.12669552

I didn't put it back into the "revised" wallet analyzer because from what I can remember, it wasn't time zone agnostic and required some user input. Just tried it right now and it returned "67"

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>reddit spacing
Nigga, at least use it right if you want to shit on me.

Reddit spacing isn't properly formatting your paragraphs.

It's this sort of shit.

Which makes reading posts actually physically painful to read.

It's cancer but so is using the term reddit spacing when it isn't really bad.

Suck my dick.

Post wallet

>> No.12669561

NTA, but he's right. The coins in the red today just don't have returns high enough to justify multibuying unless you're in the top 10.
I'd say that maybe Botan is viable, but that's about it, a case could also be made for Nabi if her price recovers quickly but
>multicoining Nabi

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>> No.12669573

I mean on the sheet...
kek, haaton code at it's finest

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you know you can customize it however you want, right?
just punch that formula in and change the timezone, or find out how the magic works for EST

>> No.12669735

>returns (net worth) around 10%

>> No.12669751

I know I know, I was just wondering if there was already a cell with the time that I'd missed, I also have my sheet rigged up a bit with some shitty math and graphsthanks for the bubbles idea, they are very useful

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The Time Until Adjustment on the Haatontrader was actually me. I slapped it together using sheet magic, but I couldn't tell you in full confidence how it works. No idea how it got to CN time; I'm in ET.

>> No.12669813

Auction was fun

>> No.12669861

I just realised the haaton sheet still exists. How long has this 'revised' sheet been around for?

>> No.12669870

>Shion, Botan and Moona with an almost 19% return
>not worth it to multicoin
nowdays that's a pretty good return, you should at the very least have those on 2x until they go back up in price

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I don't think you ever shared your version in the thread, so outside of us seeing it in your screenshots and me seeing it when we were fuckin around with rebuilding it, it's all you.
I did err on the side of keeping it as close to the "original" as possible, and in dark mode.
I just tried
and it returned -6.
Archive sez >>9226170
>Sat 04 Sep 2021

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Too late, I already bought the fud

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>> No.12669995

>Haaton is a chink

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If you add multicoin costs to the 'second' coin, making it shoulder all of the multicoining price (i.e. the difference between 1x and 2x), you will see that its price effectively multiplies by 1.45x.
Shion's 2nd coin has roughly 12.7% returns. Not as good as one would think. At those ROI, I would be much more comfortable with multicoining a coin that has very stable returns, or that had a single bad week.

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Yeah, I had to do some finagling to get it to return the proper Cycle count, but I did eventually get it working on my end. The Haaton that made the sheet didn't have any issues that I was made aware of, so I assumed my pale attempt at black magic was working.

>> No.12670068

Oh, I forgot to add: they are absolutely worth buying. Just, not multicoining, unless you have excessive amounts of liquid and there's no deal better than 12.7% ROI.

>> No.12670102

multicoin FUD is so you'll stop driving the price up and they can buy more cheaper
don't listen to them

>> No.12670192

Nah, I have to give some genuine advice in the thread from time to time. Otherwise FUDs would be ineffective as no one would ever believe anything written here.

>> No.12670246

The strongest FUD is the truth.

>> No.12670861
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I think I know how to make it work everywhere, all the time.
Adjustment...09:05 EST. 14:05 UTC. 12:05 AM in Brisbane...
and it didn't fuckin work.
oh well

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I hate you guys. YouTube keeps fucking recommending Necromantic now.

>> No.12671348

Become Fandead

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doki doki waku waku

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Good morning, I am buying Towa.
Tower pls...

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>He wasn't already on the Stack train
I fucking love Stack, bros.
OP's back, btw.

>> No.12671695

I fucking hate this image

>> No.12672159

Not him, but I was trying to look into that and now I don't know how the hell multicoin works, opening a new tab with just shion at no credits, step 1 and 2 gave me
First one is easy, it's just her price x1.05 ($6,365), but the second one doesn't make sense to me
>if it's $6365 x1.2 (20% tax) then that's $7,638, but that adds up to $14,321,75
>if it's $6365 x1.25 (25% tax) then it's $7,956,25 which adds up to $14,640
>if it was $6365 x1.3 (30% tax) it would be $8,274.5, totaling $14,958.25
and then, if it instead scales of the $6,683.75 (already x1.05 of original price)
>$6,683.75 x1.2 is $8,020.5, total of $14,704.25
>$6,683.75 x1.25 is $8,354.6875, total of $15,038.4375
>$6,683.75 x1.3 is $8,688.875, adds up to $15,372.625
How in god's name does tax work

>> No.12672317

Retardchama... you missed the easiest one
>her price $6,635
>you are buying 2
>$6,365 x 2
>you are paying 25% tax
>$12730 x 1.25

>> No.12672415

Dammit, thanks

>> No.12672543

>how does Multicoin work?
It doesn't, devs fucked up the formula and it's actually so bad it never makes sense to multicoin.
Devs are retarded, nothing new.

>> No.12672573

Base price: $6365
1x price: $6365 x 1.05 = $6683
2x total price: 2 x $6365 x 1.25 = $15912.5
"2x coin" price = 2x total price - 1x price = $15912.5 - $6683 = $9229

$9229/$6365 = 1.45, which shouldn't be surprising.
Paying for 1 coin, you pay 1.05 times the base price. Paying for 2 coins, you pay 2.5 times the base price.
Thus, the cost of adding the "second" coin would be 1.45 times the base coin.

>> No.12672579

if you want to fuck ms honk you need some dere in your tsundere

>> No.12672581

t. poor

>> No.12672611

If you think like that, you missed out on some good trades my friend.

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Imagine having a reserve of resources and information that people have worked on and never using it.

>> No.12672936

First of all, it's 25%, 35% etc. since the 5% tax is added to the multicoin fee. I won't enter a discussion if it should be like that, but it works like that empirically.
Secondly, this only considers profit via price difference. Not a shortcoming, but it is worth noting that multicoining can also be used for long positions geared towards dividends.

>> No.12672998

Both of these things are noted in the report that nobody reads.

>> No.12673026

read hard big red buy more big green sell more simple as

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Some good questions and suggestions were brought up!
I was thinking more in the lines of dividing rolling between different collections or themes than doing limited events, since we don't want to deprive new players of collecting their oshi's paraphernalia. We might do something for special events in the future though.

Crafting is definitely something we want to implement in the future and iirc honk has advanced some of the backend code already. Regarding inflation, we are monitoring market prices, but we feel a correction is not needed at this point in time. The big problem we want to avoid is having the divs-adjustment relation being too skewed towards either side and right now we are still in a fine spot I think.
On the gatcha rolls, we might have a larger bundle roll or an "animations off" option, but 100 is excessive. Fight me on this one but gatcha becomes less rewarding if you instantly get everything you want.

We have asked before the thread's opinion on returning the adjustment time back to 1 AM server time, and the answer was a huge fit so we are holding the change until we have either a server-side trader or we gather enough support from the player base to change it. Devs are still divided in this regard but I'm of the opinion that plays become more interesting when no one knows the stats in advance. What do you think about it? This change would probably come bundled with a volatility increase as well. About the saving time shift, it happened during a time devs were somewhat busy so sorry for not addressing it earlier. It's not that hard to change, do you want it to return to one hour earlier?

Sometimes I'm late to respond due to my weird timezone but I always read the thread so be free to AZKi away whatever is on your mind. Thanks for playing the game.

-Dev the third

>> No.12673205

Second thing - fair enough.
First thing - it should be included on the chart, otherwise the chart is just plain wrong.

>> No.12673226

>or we gather enough support from the player base to change it.
You don't have my support, don't change it
but thanks for your hard work

>> No.12673258

Instantly getting everything would be a 1000x. Smiles did like, 7 thousand 10x rolls so far.

>> No.12673298

Understandable but what about not being able to bid the same item but with different sellers? Animations off sounds good, but can't we atleast go for 50 rolls?

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No /vt/ in the match today but /jp/ is playing very first match on divegrass for anyone interested.

>> No.12673489

Yeah, not being able to bid is definitely a bug, we're looking into it. Regarding rolls, 50x is reasonable. I'll raise the issue at the next dev meeting.

-Dev the third

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>I'm of the opinion that plays become more interesting when no one knows the stats in advance.
Consider the Following: 99% of the playerbase doesn't do their reps anyway, even when we had an anon doing a chart that explicitly told you "buy this; sell that". I would argue that the change to adjustment time doesn't impact the target audience in any meaningful positive way. You're not gonna see rep-doers suddenly surge in the leaderboard over shitters that have never so much as opened Poi in their life.

>> No.12673584

I am once again asking for lower multicoin tax and bigger amount of coins at the same time

>> No.12673654

lower multicoin tax only for selling

>> No.12673655

>I'm of the opinion that plays become more interesting when no one knows the stats in advance
Which is why I really want our old adjustment time to come back. I missed actually checking streams or schedules for big events and it actually paying off. Now we don't even have the need to do that.

>> No.12673699

Are ogey_rrat and Yogiri Ltd. still active?

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No, they haven't been playing for ages. Tower stop fucking suiciding. Ogey and Yogiri have been at those coin amounts for ages now.

>> No.12673762

I mean, there's no Yogiri to buy

>> No.12673769

>adjustment shit again
How about we just fucking move the adjustment to the 19th hour? Just do it like 5 minutes after Poi updates. Who fucking cares about late stats, we gotta prevent people from having information. Why fucking settle for 1AM when everyone has stats by then? Move it to the same time as Poi's update so everyone is blind.

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>> No.12673827
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If you change the fucking adjustment time I'm gonna blow up the Nasfaq Office I swear to you

>> No.12673887

It's already being moved an entire fucking hour for third world niggers who don't live in a nation with DST

>> No.12674038

it's like that when you have money from divvies over, the stat is inherently dumb and broken

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>Family posts auction
mfw trying to resist bidding

>> No.12674435

I'm just selling off hats I don't really want, I'm trying to make it be only the girls I really like. Don't do it.

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Is that- is that my soundpost?
Exquisite choice, sir.
Also, fuck moving the adjustment back. I like sleeping through the day.

>> No.12674687

which is the most disgusting oshiboard and why is it baelz'?

>> No.12674706

your oshi's

>> No.12674721

Leave the aqua hat alone
Kronii's is worse, it even has rean in it

>> No.12674790

at least kronii's has two people with the right marks and one of them has the hat too

>> No.12674839

Here I'm not talking about the mechanics as these can be tweaked until we get the desired effect. From a design perspective, we would like for anons doing their reps to find better opportunities than those who don't. If we agree on this then it makes sense to 1) Reduce statistic certainty and 2) increase adjustments until it matters. Obviously, we need to test it and develop some numerical models to simulate market growth and run-off thresholds so our decisions don't have unintended effects, but I believe at this stage what's important is for us to agree on what should be the ideal functioning of the market.

Unfortunately Susan doesn't care about adjustments so the API updates somewhat randomly in the span of 5 hours. 1 AM is the earliest time when all holo statistics have been reliably updated.

-Dev the third

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this is very good bait

>> No.12675034

bread is a faggot

>> No.12675048

Just remember that NASFAQ was originally to help people watch streams and enjoy Hololive more, which isn't happening anymore at it's current state. People can just open up poi and buy coins for 8 hours, or used to be 8 hours, it's 9 hours from now on.

>> No.12675083

>we would like for anons doing their reps to find better opportunities than those who don't.
Because of overbought and coin volume, reps doesn't matter AT ALL. I stopped caring about preparing for adjustment a long time ago. As soon as you hit as low as 70 coins you're already pretty much ready for anything, at 144 you have no reason to care, you can react to anything without planning for it. And a ton of players are already way above 144.
You talk about reps mattering as if we were still in april.

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>> No.12675134

want to have sex?

>> No.12675149
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According to the Info page, the design philosophy of NASFAQ indicates that the "ideal market function" is that knowing what is going on with a wide range of streams should give you benefit more than those that do not know what is going on. In this, we agree. I do not, however, agree with the notion that pulling the adjustment time closer to API update time serves that idea. The idea is predicated on the premise that there is firstly: a significant edge to doing your reps over not doing your reps, when the data does not indicate that any such edge exists, and secondly: that enough players will do their reps for the change to have an impact on the market, which is a dubious argument due to the first counterpoint.

In summary: You COULD pull the adjustment time back to 1 AM, but it doesn't serve the game's design philosophy or the desired market result to any meaningful degree. You'd just be changing who can be there for adjustment plays and who can't. If that's what you're shooting for, then by all means, but if you're looking to change adjustment time in order to make competition fiercer, I daresay you're going to be sorely disappointed.

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Based Arson Enjoyer

>> No.12675275

I agree with the rest. Reset would be good. But after all the game's problems have been solved.

>> No.12675303

I'd still fuck him

>> No.12675325

Reset doesn't even fix anything

>> No.12675609

Ah fuck I havent been buying mori

>> No.12675631
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there's a very simple reason I don't share the sheet
It's useless for people actually playing the game because it ignores K*ara entirely.

>> No.12675689

NTA, but I don't buy Kiara either. Could you please be so kind as to post the sheet?

>> No.12675814
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In Yurope it's even dumber because we do have DST but every year at the 31st of October, it never changes.
Basically thanks to the burgers we had one week of 14:05 adjustments and are now back to 15:05

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>> No.12675927

view only, make a copy if you want to use that jank

>> No.12676026
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Thank you very much.

>> No.12676034
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if you talk to players, imagine you talk to your manager. they only understand two colors (red/green) and you need pictures to bring the point across, the picture doesn't even need to fit the occasion.

>> No.12676108
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just keep in mind every single tab in that is JIP (jank in progress), not meant for sharing (=unusable / unfinished / wrong math) and used at your own risk.

>> No.12676119

is Luna broken in the autotrader for anyone else?

>> No.12676138

I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
So far it's looking very soulful.

>> No.12676157

She's shaded as if she's not trading, but she trades normally.
Dunno what the baby's problem is, but it seems like every update bugs her.

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Cypher hit 200k coins today

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Now that you say it, I actually have been curious if the others are still even watching majority of the streams or streams at all.

As for me, Nasfaq was something that pulled me back in to holos last April but I have been losing interest again ever since August, and now, I just do not watch Hololive at all but cannot quit playing the game because of how far I have gotten.
I used to be a 35P and just check Mikochi's stream every now and then while just checking poi for what to and not to buy, but even I stopped doing both of those. I also knew about the holosports but couldn't even be bother checking it, I was right about ignoring it though, it seems it was a borefest compared to last year's.

Be honest, just how many of the players here actually still even watch streams?

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Takeshi you fucking jew

>> No.12676613

I don't buy that it's worth it to 5x something that's down 50% with the plan to hold.

>> No.12676629

This is the crunch time of the year for me right now, so I can't watch much of anything, but I try to catch what I can to run in the background while I work.

>> No.12676975

its about 111200 10x rolls now for me, and I wish we had 100x man please devchama

>> No.12677080

That's understandable. I tried doing that too but I really just can't get the mood to even play them as just background noise, feels they aren't as fun as they used to be.

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konnui love

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Why can't you just make it so I can always love your posts, stop editing my posts about Towa/Tower.

>> No.12677544
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>WU (3 hours ago)
>GF making fried chicken
>Make chicken tendies for lunch
How's your afternoon, /nasfaq/? Been selling some IRyS and Miko to fuel my GF stack.

>> No.12677574

nobody actually watches Ayamy lol

>> No.12677749

>he isn't watching ayamy right now
even for a thread of dickposters that's very gay

>> No.12678302

>watching irrelevant boring trash
I already have Kiara for that

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I am once again kindly requesting a Takodachi gf (this could be us)

>> No.12679474

but anon, there aren't any takos in the picture

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Are you gay?

>> No.12679620
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Absolutely nobody ships Fubuki x Ina
Although... I think there might be a tiny bit of potential there?

>> No.12680100

Then if you really want a tako gf time to pull out your wallet and commission some artist for some nice fubukixina art

>> No.12680154 [SPOILER] 
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A network, those arcs represent the buy to sell ratio of the given coin/player. Rean bought 1280 and sold 412 coins. 1409 $Marine were bought, whilst 37 were sold.

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>> No.12680314
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Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for a quick Afternoon Review.

It's currently 37 cycles into the day at the time of writing.

Top 5 Downward Trends (per Cycle average):
>Miko :: -$54.67
>Aqua :: -$50.72
>Baelz :: -$47.10
>IRyS :: -$43.16
>Fubuki :: -$36.37

Top 5 Upward Trends (per Cycle average):
>Botan :: +$38.77
>Amelia :: +$36.90
>Suisei :: +$36.16
>Shion :: +$35.79
>Flare :: +$33.85

5 Closest to Pre-Adjustment (based on current PCA) (ignoring Civia):
>Mio :: 4
>Ayamy :: 5
>Towa & AZKi :: 6
>Kanata :: 28
>Calliope :: 35

Biggest Crab Award for the day goes to Ayamy, who adjusted by -$3.85.
Average change per cycle is +$6.67.
Average adjustment today was -$773.97.

The full details can be seen in the F.U.C.K. Report archive, under Afternoon Review.
Quick poll regarding this report: Is it at all useful or interesting? Would you rather see different information at this time, or is it missing something? I don't mind putting this out, but I don't want to waste the thread's time cluttering it up with more numbers if they aren't doing anything.

>> No.12680363

I dont get it, why these specific people?

>> No.12680391

it's people who have been selling their oshi/most held coin

>> No.12680399

You're a crucial part of the thread sir. Gambare.

>> No.12680445
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is that rat lover multiselling her?

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>> No.12680563

a.. are you lost?

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My daily routine
>wake up
>turn on my computer
>open web browser
>click on catalog
>click on thread
>post a reply
>"Ohhh Konnui love"
>close browser, turn off my computer and go back to sleep

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smiles wtf

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It's literally this one Anon that wants 1 AM adjustments back and asks for it. Nobody does their reps, and nobody watches streams.
Why do you want nasfaq to be some kind of saviourfag holy grail?

This guy gets it.

As does this guy. I really wish 1 AM Anon would nut the fuck up and just admit that 9:05 AM ET personally inconveniences them and stop trying to make this more than it is.

It will increase the amount of potential Susan-ings by some non-zero number, as evidenced by Susan not getting her shit together until 4 AM just a day or two ago.

I still think you could take their "concern" regarding reps and make an interesting mechanic out of it, were you so inclined. These are NYSE's hours for reference:

>4:00am - 9:30am — Pre-Trading Session
>9:30am - 4:00pm — Core Trading Session
>4:00pm - 8:00pm — Extended Hours
Those obviously don't cover all the hours in the day, and nasfaq shouldn't "close"

Multi-coin would need some tinkering to not be suicide should something like this be adapted to work with nasfaq, but if you were to try and scale the hours:

>1:00am - 9:05am — Pre-Trading Session
Adjustment happens at 1, but volatility remains frozen until 9:05am. Fees are doubled across the board - base 5% is now 10%.

>9:05am - 7:00pm — Core Trading Session
Volatility "unlocks", there is no 5% fee. There should be some kind of "check" that can account for semi-Susans and stats being late. This also could allow for both early and late sub-ticks to be considered.

>7:00pm - 1:00am — Extended Hours
5% fee

WRT to sub-ticks, if a sub-tick goes through at 1 AM, it would "last" until 1 AM the following day. If it goes through at 9 AM, it lasts until 9 AM the following day. That adds an additional element of risk to the "Pre-Trading Session". As does the 2nd check at 9 AM for Susan related shit.

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I will watch a stream I wouldn't otherwise watch if (You) guys are fangirling about it in the thread. Ayamyposter has gotten me to watch more than one of her streams. Otherwise? Nah, am busy. I kept a few memberships for the chubas whose content I either enjoyed a lot or still enjoy, if anything, to get the next badge...
Thank you, 50 seems reasonable indeed.
Volatility seems like it hasn't scaled "properly" with coin volume, but without seeing the numbers behind it, I'm just blowing smoke out of my tuchus. Some kind of "volume/time" based scale on volatility would be bretty good. If everyone starts a run on a coin, it should tank harder. If, relatively speaking, "nobody" is buying a dip, it should move more slowly. For it to not be "broken" it would have to both track current volume of that particular coin vs. current total market volume i.e. the current transactions on that coin represent a disproportionate amount of total transactions AND somehow scale with some arbitrarily defined "historical" volume/time measure for that particular coin. It's making MY head spin, but I imagine the Dev that handles those equations will pop a chub thinking about it.

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>Towa & AZKi :: 6
But you fail to see she's moving away from her pre-adjustment, your metric is actually quite fraudulent!

Think they're neat, but realistically they don't have much use, as if you're not on the trends already hours after adjustment, you're legitimately retarded. Think "closest to preadjustment" is kinda stupid, like for Towa here as I mentioned, everything else is nice to see though like trends/cycle averages and the average change per coin. Think removing pre-adjustment will remove that clutter issue you're worried about. I'd personally advocate for just recording any true moons like IRyS at 17k for later reference because the all time tracker only records the data at end of day, which IRyS will be only a little above her previous price at adjustment, which doesn't really show you what you were actually getting.

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do not disgrace the priestess like this tako, continue in this fashion and you will be deflapped

>> No.12680782

>Why do you want nasfaq to be some kind of saviourfag holy grail?
I'm just stating what the game originally was for. It's also on the info page, so I'm not the one wanting nasfaq to be some holy grail.

>> No.12680796

NTA but if you are gonna start posting cancer like >>12680519 you should be ready to get replied with cancer as well

>> No.12680822

Also, jesus, I made that post and that fucking image makes her chest look massive what the fuck actually variable size Towa

>> No.12681076

Towa has fat tits, Bibi chooses how big they are.

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Bibi does good work

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Another network

>> No.12681269

>another hourglass that is large enough to notice
good job, keep on buying

>> No.12681278

Can you do another auction transactions?

>> No.12681317

And the info page also says this:
>Remember, sometimes it's not the biggest Holos that will make you the most!
How often is that true?

The game was originally for EN2 debut, wasn't it? Because of all the "buying/selling x" posting during EN1 debuts. Shut her down boys.

>> No.12681390

Jesus I'm not an armpitfag but HOT DAMN

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I actually have a way to determine if a coin has moved beyond their pre-adjustment value and kept going, but I haven't implemented it because I've been lazy.

Part of this is because I personally feel that Numbers Review isn't as useful as it once was. The original point of it was to track inflation, but since inflation has been properly curbed (and I've optimized the Numbers Review process) I've been looking at new ways to help track the market's movements that might be helpful. I understand that Numbers Review may not be useful for its intended purpose anymore, but it is still a cornerstone record for the market, so it's in no danger of going anywhere.
One avenue that is pretty unexplored is average adjustments and transactional volatility. I feel like people don't exactly understand how much a coin does and doesn't move at its most volatile. Numbers Review is purposefully taken at a fairly stable point of the day, so it can't reliably show that.

>> No.12681401

fuckin lol
that meme was dead long before EN2 debut

>> No.12681434

>How often is that true?
It's common back then but it's really rare now, sadly.

EN2 debuts didn't have much posts sadly, EN2 just took way too long to debut.

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I know Opera GX is such a fucking joke it's beyond being a "meme tier" browser, but, uh, it's really light on resources for nasfaq.
After you spend a solid fifteen minutes fucking with its settings to disable all the unnecessary shit it's doing out of the box.
Shame that it's such a bloated POS that it's using 500 MB RAM and 10% CPU with no tabs open whatsoever. Could've had something there.

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NTA, reps need to start mattering again. Reps counting made the game more fun. At this point, it's just a game of who has the most efficient spreadsheet.
>Some kind of "volume/time" based scale on volatility would be bretty good. If everyone starts a run on a coin, it should tank harder. If, relatively speaking, "nobody" is buying a dip, it should move more slowly.
This doesn't remove the problem of not being able to move your funds around quickly enough. In the end, we will still contently spend whatever amount of time it takes to bring that green or red number close to zero. We will ALWAYS have enough coins to do it and then some, at least in the top 50, and that's boring.
Selling 144 of my 3000 stack isn't going to do shit for me by the same time tomorrow (multisell is a meme by the way). At least not much. We cannot prepare 3000 coins, for instance, when we know about a big stream coming in three days (that was announced three days in advance) and sell them all on the day after the stream. Being in the know a few days beforehand, a few weeks even, means nothing. Because you don't have a reward for getting that information. You'll just sell a small bit of your stack and be done for the day. Yes, you will make a profit, but so has everybody else with a half-decent net worth.
The early game was made fun by gambling 50% of your net worth on one coin for a single day's adjustment, then dumping it all on that same day. You could have had weeks to prepare, you could have bought all the opportune dips. If you did everything right, that day was your payday. You won for that day, better than everybody else. Now what do you have? Set +144 or set -144 on your cumbersome stacks like everybody else (yeah obviously you'll set it to less than that sometimes, sometimes more if you're willing to multibuy, but you get the point).
How do we go back to funjustments except for allowing us to buy/sell a much greater amount of coins per day (with much lower multicoin taxes of course)?
That's enough of my paragraphs. If they're drivel then they're drivel. Thank you if you read them.

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>Selling 144 of my 3000 stack isn't going to do shit for me by the same time tomorrow (multisell is a meme by the way). At least not much. We cannot prepare 3000 coins, for instance, when we know about a big stream coming in three days (that was announced three days in advance) and sell them all on the day after the stream. Being in the know a few days beforehand, a few weeks even, means nothing. Because you don't have a reward for getting that information. You'll just sell a small bit of your stack and be done for the day. Yes, you will make a profit, but so has everybody else with a half-decent net worth.
Stop it Anon, you've moved beyond murdering "bring back 1 AM" Anon's argument, beyond raping their extended family members, and are now squarely in "genocide" territory. Can't have you making sense like that now!

>> No.12681563

Opera GX is not a joke, it's a super useful and functional browser with a ton of built in functionality.
You have everything you could need at your fingertips with Discord, Spotify, Youtube etc integration. Really, it's probably the best browser on the market and it's completely free.

>> No.12681567

I personally have made atrociously fat stacks off of stockpiling Risu for months in preparation for this month. I was even called out more than once for doing so, but I'm selling shares I got for no more than $3k for $15~25k.
Was that retarded? Absolutely. Will I be doing it again? Hell yes.

>> No.12681595

Risu's an exception and you know it.

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Why did Enter post instead of newlining?
The volatility scaling was meant to go hand in hand with the idea of "trading hours". So it would include the changes to both the fee structure as well as volatility depending on the time of day and introduce some more elements of risk at every step. It would require changes to the way multi-coining works to be viable anyways, and multi-coining is currently only a hair away from "completely useless." There's some room for something interesting there, but I'm too stupid to flesh it out beyond random rambling.
Because if "oh no having muh numbers for 12 hours makes it less fun" has any legitimacy, I'd rather at least try and flesh that idea out with some kind of concrete game mechanic that makes things interesting for everyone and adds some depth to the game vs. "9 AM inconveniences me, change it back"
>early game
Yes, it was fun to hedge it all on a bet or a hunch. I say we exercise some patience, puts/options should hopefully bring some of that fun back, and I think Devs should wait until its ready.

>> No.12681761

I suppose, but it's not completely unreasonable to save well in advance for events you know are going to happen.
>Generation Celebrations
>Sports Festival
>New Outfits
>Unprivated streams for older chuubas
These things happen all the time. It becomes less about "can I liquidate my stacks" and more about "can I invest early enough that just base inflation makes my stacks so powerful when these events hit that it is literally impossible for me to suffer a loss"

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Appreciate the work you're doing and tracking data, glad to see you're not curbing it anytime soon.
I do agree that average adjustments and volatility aren't really explored, but that's also because people don't really care all too much, seeing Botan is moving at $38.77 per cycle may allow me to basically buy until a certain price point with manual calculations, but again, no one really puts that much effort anymore, especially with spreadsheets and just plugging round number into autotrader and not touching it.
Normal inflation has moved to coin inflation which is usually the better of the two types of inflation imo, so tracking it is probably more important nowadays. Like for cypher now having 200k coins I'm not all too sure the best way to track coin inflation is, think the metrics you have now are good, I think something in numbers report tracking the progress of average transactional price changes would be a solid addition. i.e. Botan going from $38.77 a cycle from a big negative to $27 a cycle from a big negative, due to the volume increasing in the future. Probably could reverse engineer the cycle/transaction formula with enough data

>> No.12681898

Why does DST even exists, do you people age slower or faster

>> No.12681905

>Probably could reverse engineer the cycle/transaction formula with enough data
I effectively solved that a month or two ago; I've been quiet because the devs implied that having the formula out there would make the game too stagnant, a notion I agree with. It's also possible that I'm just outright wrong due to overlooking critical information, like I was with the dividend formula.

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>You have everything you could need at your fingertips with Discord, Spotify, Youtube etc integration.
I don't need any of that and I read that as "there are constantly half a dozen unnecessary Electron apps running in the background that bog it down"
You can already do that in Chrome or Edge or even Firefox. It's called a "pinned tab".
>completely free
Because (You) are the product, picrel
elGoog having all my data is one thing, but giving it to a bunch of Chinese tech companies and VC funds isn't exactly better.
Guessing you're the one that was recommending it before, I finally got around to trying it. Again, after you unfuck it a bit after installing it, the UI is snappy and they're clearly doing something with resource management to get individual tabs running "lighter" than they would in Chrome, but all the rest of the baggage ruins that.

>> No.12682002

Tupac, that's literally the shill script for OperaGX. You're getting jebaited.

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Based fubbuf poster

>> No.12682012

itt: retards

>> No.12682026

literally just limit the amount of CPU/RAM it uses, the browser lets you do that

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Tupac's takes are usually retarded or annoying but I can't hate the guy because he actually caught up on the rankings and is actually cool. Unlike that one fag.

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Not like the transactional formula is as useful as the dividend one is, it'd be different if it was the adjustment formula, which I think you probably could have at this point. Only formulas that are truly bad to be known are dividend and adjustment ones, not sure how the transactional one would lead to something bad. Unless I misinterpreted your post and you meant that you've "solved" the adjustment formula, and not just simple cycle by cycle formula.

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I am picrel then I think they're serious man. I know of at least one player that actually, seriously uses it.
I understand, but I don't think you understand. Limiting what it does with resources for what I want it to show me means nothing if it's gobbling a ton up just to exist. When I open it, and do absolutely nothing with it, it is already using 10% CPU and ~600 MB RAM. No open tabs. That's insane.
For reference, Chrome being woken from the crypt and presumably checking for updates and trying to sync a million things was using 10% CPU and 200 MB RAM, and that's with the bloated "New Tab" page showing me weather, suggestions, etc. still enabled. GX was just showing me a black, blank tab after I disabled all the "suggested" shit.

>> No.12682222

okay retard

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Fascinating contribution to the discussion. Great job.
Holy fucking based, checked.

>> No.12682259

who indeed

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I haven't been posting actively for a week or two now. I piped up in this thread because of the OP.

>> No.12682359

It doesn't use that much you're retarded, plain and simple.
I have twenty NASFAQ tabs open on Opera GX right now and it's only using 900mb.

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>> No.12682457

>retarded ramblings
meds, now

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If you meant to reply to me about the adjustment time, I couldn't care less. Yes, it's nice to sleep later. No, I don't care if it's early in the morning. It will not stop be from playing, I try my best to at least SOMEWHAT centre my sleep around this game. I can easily change the time that I sleep. I go back to being there at 6am? No problem. Having the numbers for a long time doesn't really matter. As I was saying, if you know something's coming in a few days you can buy accordingly. Anyone that looks at the numbers will still be picking up the scraps. I'm talking about being able to sell what you built up over a few days in a single day, more time than those who looked at poi had. It's a reward of its own, disregarding those who only rely on poi as the losers of the day.
I'm not that familiar with those terms unfortunately, I've been largely talking out of my fat arse. My fat arse that holds my soul, at least. My soul says that I liked the ability to efficiently make gains. Basically, I want to make the money and keep it. I want to DUMP Mel, or whoever else I choose HARD. Because, in a perfect NASFAQ, I knew she was going to have that concert, so I spent half of everything I had building up to sell on that one big day of hers. Do you get what I'm saying? I want to make the choice to buy the coins, I want to be ABLE to sell those coins on the day she moons and thus keep my profits.
The game feels boring because you have very little sense of accomplishment now. There's no plan (except for NNN really) to make money anymore apart from fucking dividends and the gacha-auction pipeline. There is less thought, less risk, less volatility in terms of success and failure. (You) can't do much to advance above the rest OR fall behind as a member of the top 50. Commendable advances are made over months now instead of weeks.
Yeah, you can save well for these but so can everybody else. Most people have a decent stack of pretty much every coin. You won't be able to do shit since it's only a one-day event. NNN, however, is an entire month's worth of selling. These are not the same.

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including all auctions? no.

>> No.12682659

why are there two apostrophes in my name

>> No.12682743
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>Lunchtime Investment Firm is alive
What the fuck?

>> No.12682795

holy fuck kenzokus

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Another priceless contribution.

>> No.12682928

Nice, 10q anon

>> No.12683064

I haven't numerically solved adjustments, but I've noticed certain patterns in the playerbase that make it very easy for me to identify a coin that's overbought/oversold. That's probably a side effect of staring at too many numbers for too long, though. My autistic brain has probably already solved adjustments and I just don't know it yet.

>> No.12683362

imo, there is no need to fix adjustment, gameplay-wise, adjustments/divs are a good source of reliable income, it's sole purpose is to build liquid consistently so that players will keep on playing ie the resource mines.
>but where's the fun?
options, wherein folks can either go big or go homeless in a single transaction

>> No.12683472

if you want people to care about adjustments again just up the volatility, until that happens no other change you make will have any difference

>> No.12683522

But that just makes the 'large, cumbersome wallet' problem worse. Higher volatility just means you get to sell less coins. You will feel EVEN LESS accomplishment than you already do.

>> No.12683562

nope, that just means you sell before adjusment strat becomes viable again.

>> No.12683567

just use edge and win

>> No.12683669

I don't see how that will even make a dent in my coin stack of 2000 or whatever. Yeah, I can sell 40 more coins. Great. My net worth will still fall with that coin the next day. I still cannot trade efficiently enough for the game to be fun. This solves nothing for anybody who is not poor.

>> No.12683671

Page 8. Is there a new bread being baked?

>> No.12683674

I don't know who was the one that introduced EDGE for NASFAQ back then but I still use it till this day

>> No.12683744

>Higher volatility
you lack imagination. 500%+ volatility will do the trick

>> No.12683809

Okay but how do we fix the shitcoins having shit gains

>> No.12683820

>500%+ volatility
Great, I can now buy and sell 10-20 of each coin a day. There is no risk, no movement still. Everybody will do the same thing.

>> No.12683827

maybe they should do better content

>> No.12683865

shame the girls to stream more

>> No.12683868

Tell that to Mori yet is always on the top

>> No.12683899

For me it was during the haatonsheet arc, server was getting bogged and trades were being delayed unless you used the cancer sheet, then a saviourfag appeared with edge, I got 144 for 3 days in a row and never looked back

>> No.12683925

but have you seen her tits? god damn i don't blame them

>> No.12683937

don't look for risk. it's intended to be risk-free, players are saying that they want risk, but when the devs tries to change anything, players bitch

>> No.12683959

That explain Ina's price

>> No.12683995

The players saying that there should be risk in the market and the player bitching about risk are different players in most cases.

>> No.12684035

What did you mean by that?

>> No.12684049

You've angered the flatkeks have fun with this one

>> No.12684060

I know the early game wasn't risk-free, and I know that was fun. I will embrace any change to bring that back happily. Except a reset. Multicoin? Cool. Oh, you're going to tax it and make it ineffective? Not so much.

>> No.12684078

im retarded, thats the reason

>> No.12684117

i dont think so, they want risk but at the same time, the risk they want should make sense ie easy to figure out so they reject it. no one really gives a good idea to introduce risk in the game except maybe a new feature pls honk make options like a high stake gamble

>> No.12684133

Reason for what? Please explain.

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you know what's ironic? I run nasfaq in FF now myself and only use Edge to look at the pretty graphs
glad it's been working well for you though, kek
it doesn't look like it

>> No.12684271

honk I need to get rid of this disgusting Kiryu Kai badge

>> No.12684295

>it doesn't look like it
I'll go ahead and stick something in the oven, then. Might just be heating up leftovers, though, since I haven't finished the big SportsFes shitpost OP.

>> No.12684320

>super talented
>great and entertaining streams
>beautiful model with incredible rigging and tracking
>one of the best coins in the game that is always good to buy
>she can draw you know!!
>some boring ass joke every 5 hours of dead silence in the ugliest fucking game you've ever seen
>not the prettiest but she's cute sometimes, shit rigging, fades to the void from time to time
>biggest shitcoin to ever exist, only takos buy it, but the coin is so fucking shit that they often suicide after getting high amounts of it
Do I need to say more?

>> No.12684337

this is all true

>> No.12684338

Mori x Ina tho

>> No.12684375

Ina's so flat too, it's disgusting

>> No.12684377
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Why are you like this

>> No.12684390

but he's right

>> No.12684406

Yeah, you might as well just get a guy as your oshi

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>> No.12684761

>she actually said it
deadbeats wildin

>> No.12684796

>he doesn't know
Gura was the kawaiiopeposter all along, it was all part of her plot

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What rock have you been living under Anon, this shit's ancient. I love how you can hear her soul leave her body as she reads the last few words.

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You forgot
>6 streams a week and released 3 songs in a month
>sorry guys, next month I can't go in as hard, there will only be 5 streams a week but they will be longer and I'll only release 2 songs
>uuuuh I have a project, see you in two weeks lol
Not to mention the incredible amount of kino collab Mori has had recently while Ina doesn't do shit

>> No.12685383

Is someone trying to larp as a deadbeat just to kill their chances at getting a tako gf?

>> No.12685416
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both are cute though

>> No.12685443

takos are just meant to be used as onaholes for fanbases with a decent oshi

>> No.12685586

Bread's ready. Went with an instant yeast this time, but it's not leftovers.
Waiting for Page 10 or until golden brown.

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>golden brown
I miss her so much bros.

>> No.12685771

Is her dog alive yet?

>> No.12685784

no mori took it

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>> No.12685851

Mori ruining yet another collab

>> No.12685900

no mori's a white woman she's probably just wanted to collab with the dog

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you can't hide!
oi, stop putting words in my mouth!
mine got edited too...

>> No.12686014

I also would collab with the dog instead of Sana. The dog's probably cleaner than Sana.

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When can we buy Stack?

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Bros I love ame so much...

>> No.12687628

>ywn have someone feel about you the way investigators feel about ame
why even go on at this point. theres nothing out there but disappointment.

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It's mine and you can't have it.

>> No.12688018

Then have you tried getting an investigator gf(male)?

>> No.12688096

I dont have an investigators license...

>> No.12688578

Kek what a loser

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