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I dug these numbers out of the archives~October Average ViewersGura: 18095Kronii: 9954Ina: 9523Mumei: 7786IRyS: 7286Baelz: 6811Mori: 6675Fauna: 6230Ame: 5481Kiara: 5153Sana: 4577>Average: 7961>StDev: 3755.7Selen: 3200Elira: 2119Pomu: 1862Millie: 1720Enna: 1597Finana: 1574Nina: 1417Rosemi: 1399Reimu: 1320Petra: 1166>Average: 1737>StDev: 583.6~ October SuperchatsMori: $49,094Kiara: $42,836Gura: $34,155IRyS: $28,167Kronii: $23,537Ame: $17,704Fauna: $15,899Bae: $13,783Ina: $10,971Sana: $10,309Mumei: $9,433>Average: $23,263>Stdev: $13,705.0Elira: $26,031.00Nina: $19,686.00Pomu: $18,887.00Selen: $17,374.00Millie: $13,335.00Enna: $12,829.00Reimu: $11,389.00Rosemi: $9,396.00Finana: $5,879.00Petra: $5,484.00>Average: $14,029>Stdev: $6,503.3The two top-viewed accounts from either company are cleary breaking the trend. Deleting Gura and Selen results in these averages:>HoloEN: 6948 >NijiEN: 1575And these Stdev:>HoloEN: 1766.6>NijiEN: 293.3So basically, in October HololiveEN got about 4.5x the viewers of NijisanjiEN. And about 1.6x the superchat total
>>12787927NijiEN dead as always
I have a feeling that someday YT might pull the plug on streaming, based on how bad it was doing against Twitch. If that happens, Hololive and Nijisanji are fucked.
Kuzuha predictions, NOW
>>12788152call 70kfloor 40k
>>12788152me when i'm planning my eventual grudgepost
>>12788055I had a dream that a solar flare 200x bigger than anything mankind has ever seen struck the earth and rendered all electronics useless forever, I was walking around in the desert when it happened, and the sky turned green. If that happens, Hololive and Nijisanji are fucked.
>>12788152>>12788195Main channel buff, meaning a lot of tourists. 60k minimum.Betting on 80k.
>>12787927For NijiEN atleast those arent octobers SC, they are all wrong. They are from the monetization opening for wave 3 to today.
>>12788055All of them would just migrate to Twitch.
>>12788055I don't agree with your thesis, but in any case no way are they fucked. Hololive and Nijisanji are both big enough, with fanbases dedicated enough, that they could transition to Twitch or some other platform, especially as a coordinated effort. It would be a setback and disruption for sure but not fatal.
>>12788152Why so angry? Anyways, free portion of wave 1 hit 40k, Nijirock <30k. Since its kuzuha, a lot of people will buy the tickets and free portion is on main niji channel. I say 40k
>>12788271No, I am just curious and like predictions posting. I myself feel like it can peak 50k.
>>12788152Floor of 40k, should easily clear 60k.Suisei managed to get 42k, and you can't say that Kuzuha is any less popular than her.
>>12788055Streaming is becoming big on YT but YT keeps ghosting the vtubers when they ask which features to implement.
>>12788558Youtube doesn't like anime crap.
>>12788783It is the biggest platform for anime mvs
>>12788055VShojo is already outpacing them.
>>12788152100k floor, this is Kuzuha we're talking aboutHe managed to get 144k on Apex ffs
>>12788845To Youtube's disgust.
>>12788879people are attending the concert in real life, others bought the ticket and won't be watching on youtube, also it's not apex and it's not a big collab.
>>12788875Vshojo? Outpacing who? Holo and Niji? HAHAHAHA.
>>12789026Can Holo and Niji collab with some of the biggest streamers on Earth? Vshojo and Nimu can constantly do that, they are just 1 collab away from xqc. Vshojo already has a good relationship with OTV qnd Mizkif crew already.
>>12789026VShojo has higher average views than most of hololive.
>>12789292No they don't, unless you think vshojo is just nyanners and veibae in which case they still don't
>>12789250nimu participated on the rubius tourney and didnt move her average
>>12788345That's what it says in the archives. But even taking your word for this, that is still a 1 month timespan. In fact Ethyria is celebrating their 1 month anniversary right now. So even if it isn't the same time period, it is a time period of the same length
>12789250>biggest streamers on EarthBased on what your ass? Kek stop showing that your just an EOP viewer, learn to at least research your claims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tOQLL93gsAbout damn time
>>12789250The highest peak for ironmouse was with calli not with OTV or whoever big streamer you anon are talking about.>>12789292And their biggest members looks midget if you compare them to the titan of hololive. What's your point?
>>12789578Finally, but I'm curious what's the reason behind the delays?
>>12789578IRyS....
>>12789502This is the numbers thread, demand a little bit of accuracy in the numbers. If you say october superchats, then I expect octobers superchats. And that is not octobers superchats for NijiEN
>>12789578Oh FINALLY, it's been like a month!>>12789591The claim was clearly from someone who hasn't actually done his numbers rep and/or someone baiting for (You)s. Like, ffs, Pekora alone is enough to match the combined averages of the 3 top Vshojos, if I'm remembering my numbers correctly, let alone 'bigger than Hololive'. Unless the argument is HoloEN vs Vshojo and even then the numbers don't even favor vshojo. Not to mention YT ccv being as fucky as it is.
>>1278815260k max. Wednesday 6pm. Its not prime time
>>12789793If the preview was that high wouldn't it mean a lot of people didn't buy tickets as well?Suisei was an exception since SPWN shit the bed in the first half and was pretty unwatchable.
>>12789853It means alot of poorfags
>>1278815265k and a win.This will not slip. Fellow Nijifriends, we need to count this as a win for ourselves. Who will win on the 11th?
>>12790011Its Nijisisters. Your Nijinigger reps…
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?
>>12789648My interest is to find the multiplier between hololive and nijisanji. How much of a buff does hololive actually have? It looks like the answer is about 4.5x for live viewers, and 1.5x for donations. For recent months anyway.I want to watch this gap close over time
>12789292>VShojo has higher average views than most of hololive
>>12790139Why? Are you a stock holder in Anycolor?
>>12789508Nimu!
>>12790263NTA, but it's certainly something interesting to look at. Also, if NijiEN is able to become a legit competitor to HoloEN maybe they'll stop being so goddamn lazy!
>>12789292>>12620461
>>12788345yea the numbers are different. This pic is playboard numbers.
>>12790431Yea, so like I said, Pekora alone beats out the combined average of Nyanners, Ironmouse and Veibae. Stupid baitpost is stupid, at least HoloEn vs JP has actual numbers to back up the shit flinging.
>>12790139but those dates for NijiEN are not random. They are from the first monetized streams from wave 3 so of course the HoloEN-NijiEN supa relationship will be closer, supaopenings are big SC streams
>>12790613yeah but you can remove the ethyria altogether and you will get a similar average
>>12790431Posting the list for those of you who can't access the archives right now>29867 :: Pekora (HoloJP)>23123 :: Suisei (HoloJP)>22843 :: Miko (HoloJP)>22174 :: Gura (HoloEN)>21484 :: Subaru (HoloJP)>17658 :: Rushia (HoloJP)>17423 :: Aqua (HoloJP)>17066 :: Korone (HoloJP)>16292 :: Noel (HoloJP)>15611 :: Shion (HoloJP)>14662 :: Mio (HoloJP)>13935 :: Botan (HoloJP)>13490 :: Kanata (HoloJP)>12968 :: Fubuki (HoloJP)* HoloJP: 12401>12239 :: Kuronii (HoloEN)>11036 :: Inanis (HoloEN)>10739 :: Nene (HoloJP)>10240 :: Flare (HoloJP)>10164 :: IRyS (HoloEN)>10150 :: Okayu (HoloJP)* HoloEN:: 10120>9566 :: Mumei (HoloEN)>9481 :: Nyanners (Vshojo)>9409 :: Ironmouse (Vshojo)>9318 :: Haato (HoloJP)>8888 :: Lamy (HoloJP)>8845 :: Calliope (HoloEN)>8743 :: Baelz (HoloEN)>8618 :: Watame (HoloJP)>8504 :: Polka (HoloJP)>8417 :: Mel (HoloJP)>8131 :: Fauna (HoloEN)>8097 :: Veibae (Vshojo)>7810 :: Amelia (HoloEN)>7745 :: Luna (HoloJP)>7635 :: Kiara (HoloEN)>5601 :: Towa (HoloJP)* VShojo :: 5531>5396 :: Matsuri (HoloJP)>5354 :: Aki (HoloJP)>4980 :: Sana (HoloEN)>4877 :: Sora (HoloJP)>3858 :: Apricot (Vshojo)>3556 :: Zentreya (Vshojo)>3517 :: Roboco (HoloJP)>3449 :: Choco (HoloJP)>3429 :: Hajime (Vshojo)>3379 :: Silvervale (Vshojo)>3038 :: Melody (Vshojo)
>>12789578Last original ranking video on the channel had 8 Mori 3 Suisei 1 Gura 1 Marine 1 Watame 1 Noel in the top 15. With Rainbow & Homenobi dropping + Stellar Stellar & Graveyard Shift charted, top 15 might literally be 13/15 Mori + Suisei.
I swear to god some people legit forget that vshojo is not a team of three people consisting of Nyanners Ironmouse and Veibae and that they have their own low tier performers too.
>>12790769 (me)Oh I forgot Yoi no Yo, Yoi. Maybe 12/15 then
>>12790736>using averages instead of peaks when VShojo has much better peaks due to how Twitch worksnice data massaging
>>12790727>remove the ethyriaBased for removing the dead weight to make it looks like nijien isn't failing
>>12790901
>>12790858These three alone can beat HoloEN, plus they will have future megastars as well. Twitch has growth, YT streaming not so much.
>>12790949>These three alone can beat HoloENno they can't
>>12790949Oh hey the gypsy fortune teller has moved on from nijisanji onto vshojo.
>>12790949sure
>>12791022Youtube streaming being a dying trend isn't fortune telling, it's statistically verifiable.
>>12791054Says the gypsy fortune teller
>>12791054Show statistics.
>>12791076https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-04-14-twitch-continues-to-grow-in-q1-2021-but-youtube-gaming-is-lagging
>12791054>What is 'YT decided to fuck over everyone's CCV to appeal to advertisers'Beyond that, both platforms saw a drop in the last quarter as more people got out of their homes. I swear, I hate YT so much for that change, ffs. You can clearly track adblock usage, just report that to advertisers instead of fucking over everyone's CCV!
>>12791102>youtube gaming
So vshojo twitch timeloop now? How bad niji lost yesterday?
One Million Club1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)4. Pekora (Dec 4, 2020)5. Aqua (Jan 13, 2021)6. Marine (Jan 18, 2021)7. Calli (Jan 25, 2021)8. Haachama (Feb 10, 2021)9. Amelia (Feb 11, 2021)10. Coco (Feb 17, 2021)11. Rushia (Mar 2, 2021)12. Noel (Apr 12, 2021)13. Okayu (Apr 17, 2021)14. Miko (Apr 30, 2021)15. Ina (May 27, 2021)16. Kiara (May 30, 2021)17. Matsuri (Jun 1, 2021)18. Suisei (Jun 26, 2021)19. Subaru (Jul 2, 2021)20. Ayame (Jul 7, 2021)21. Watame (Jul 17, 2021)22. Kanata (Jul 27, 2021)23. Botan (Oct 16, 2021)Upcoming (over 900k):24. Moona25. Shion====Two Million Club1. Gura (Jan 18, 2021)Upcoming (over 1.9m):====Three Million Club1. Gura (July 4, 2021)
>>12791088https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-and-facebook-gaming-set-new-records-youtube-gaming-sees-viewership-decrease-in-q2-2021
>>12791123Not that bad, but since Koro-san game once again won, and Kuzuha was twit-casting instead of streaming, salt. lots of salt.
>>12791102>>12791238>Youtube gamingvtubers aren't in youtube gaming dumbass
>>12790949All 3 of them combined beat Gura, therefore VShoujo > HoloEN. Cope and seethe Holobronies.
>>12791102>>12791238>youtube gamingthe absolute state of nijiniggers
>>12791327Youtube gaming is the Youtube's Twitch competitor dumbass
>>12791343
>>12791343anon just because people are pretending to be retarded doesn't mean you should pretend to be retarded to fit in.
Any word on the Blue Archive sponsorship?
So who underperform today that Vshojo, YouTube Gaming and facebook is being brought up by this absolute niggers?
Well, seems like the NijiEN event will be on Niji channel, consider the appearance of hosts
>>12791457I do like Hada. But I don't know the other guy
>>12791448One of the best, most talented Niji males had a totsu with 36 call ins and it lost to some hikki rabbit.>>12791457That dude's pretty dapper.
>>12791457>nijien channeloh for god sakejust choose one of the girls to host it
>>12791457NONONONONO PAK TAKA GET BEHIND ME
>>12791548Does the Nijisanji EN channel have superchats?
>>12791430"FIRST SPONSOR STREAMS"More than 1 sponsorship this week.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qp0ad3/welcome_to_the_new_meta_of_twitch/>https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qqenit/nyanners_describes_the_perfect_nut/Inclining!veibaes clip has 150k views now
>>12790901>due to raidsDon’t be shy faggot
>>12791669HOLOEN MOGGEDGura hasn't been uploaded in LSF in forever, VSHOUJO ON THE INCLINE NOW
>>12791669>150kis fucking weird what is considered big for clips on twitch
>>12791457>ESL hostThat will be a huge debuff. What are they thinking
>>12791800>are they thinkingthats the secret, they never do
>>12791800Hey man just because Hada is Australian doesn't mean she's ESL; that's kinda racistThe indog for sure is ESL though
>>12791800Trickling down viewers from NijiEN to NijiID.
>>12791659How big of a deal is it for Council to be landing these two sponsorships? How long after debut were the contracts likely signed?
>>12791885Isn't BonBon in ID? Why not make him host
>>12791901Too much swag.
>>12791889Not that big of a deal on an individual level, but the fact that HoloEN management intend for sponsorships to be spread around and also gave these to Council relatively quickly does indicate that they're intent on making sure everyone gets a shot at the shilling pie.
>>12791901He hosted the lazulight debuts with Hana macchia. They would have shaved viewers for all of lazulight if Taka had been the host for that one.
>>12791669Holy crap, that's why Twitch is so much better for vtubers, that site has hundreds of millions of stream watchers that are not familiar with vtubers. If Vshojo plays their card right, they can incline big time.
>>12791889They're landing sponsorships for successful mobages with a track record. Compare that to holoJP who's never shilled a mobage that didn't die a few months after they shilled it.
>>12791800Hada speaks clearer english than Rosemi. She is also deliciously Australian. Taka on the other hand has a heavy accent.
>>12791800and not even slight ESLs like Reimu and Millie. Taka is one of the most indog sounding of all of NijiID. Will get lower views than the Meltdown collab for only wave 1 and wave 2 got
>>12791877>that's kinda racist>indog
>>12792042>clearer english than Rosemi.how bad is hers? Sana level bad?
>>12791958I'm curious why Irys doesn't have a spons yet. I mean I know Azki doesn't do spons as well but Irys is in the top 5 for CCV and top 4 for SC compared to this >>12787927 Is it because she's Project Hope thus different management?
>>12792118French and pronounces R as W
>>12791889Just shows that Hololive is able to get sponsorships for new talents fairly quickly.NijiEN seems to be struggling to get sponsorships for the time being.It has been almost 6 months since Lazulight debut and there has only been 2 sponsorship streams for NijiEN.HoloEN had sponsorships as early as 1-2 months after debut.
>>12791958>does indicate that they're intent on making sure everyone gets a shot at the shilling pie.That's normal operating procedure for Hololive. >>12792027It just seems too big for Council. They must have known for a while since this gen is the one that has panhandled the least to date.
>>12792203Not too big for Council, it's fitting for their stature.
>>12792112self-hating seaniggers, pulise anderstandz
>>12791510>some hikki rabbityou mean Jun's onahole?
>>12792235They're numberlets. 4 figures = numberlet
>>12792235Should have given that to Vshojo instead, at least their numbers are way way bigger. But that's a good thing since Vshojo can pursue bigger ventures than some unknown mobile games
>>12792250
>>12792264Relative to holoJP's status in the Japanese market they're doing way better, that's why they get the big sponsorships. There's just no competition.
>>12791510What the fuck kind of talent does Maimoto have other than getting flamed?
>>12792337
>12792368nice try gen5 schizo
>>12792129Project hope and vsingers have a different direction than streamers. Its jsut that IRyS opts to stream like a regular streamer
>>127914578k max. Meltdown was 7.3k iirc
>>12792429This is an industry shattering event and will show us the market. 20k is the bar we should set. >>12792392Being a loser.
>>12792129We don't know if she's been offered any sponsorships or if she's working on anything of the sort. Understandably anything about these sorts of things is kept under wraps until they actually happen.
>>12790579Hard to believe Pomu got more superchat than Ame and Ina, and got about half of Gura. And Elira got pretty close to Gura.
>>12792631Not really? Those girls doesn't bait for SCs and doesn't read them most of the time. Plus they also disable them if they don't feel like receiving SC. If you want to compare similar strats regarding SC, then compare Pomu and Kiara, both saviorfag magnets.
>>12791669Does the big number of twitch clip viewers increase the number of stream viewers?
>>12792765Ina - Has basically said 'you don't need to SC me I make enough as an artist' and also doesn't even do dedicated SC readingsAme - Randomly has SCs off, and also had very few solo streams and a lot of collabs + karaokes in October.
>>12792824No, clips are their own videos and iirc you can't make money off them.
>>12792631Elira had her birthday and Pomu is still a saviorfag magnet.
>>12792765Pomu was very behind on superchats, like almost 10 streams of unread supas she was behind for the superchat reading. Her and Kiara arent really similar in how they handle supas. Kiara is more similar to Selen in that Selen will also read superchats for hours for most streams, so they have very few "bad" superchat streams.
>>12792631>>12792765>>12792631Gura also disabled her SC today even though she can bait a lot for “being sick but still gives the members karaoke and even push through a double stream”.
Tell me anon who do you think will dominate daily top 1 list in a month without events/celebration/tournament/collab/totsu.
>>12792765I feel like this makes HoloEN more like a rich clique, where wealth is just available while NijiEN seems a bit more blue collar.
What are the chances of Vshojo scoring a HoloJP collab, maybe with Polka?
>>12793043If you take away all the outside buffs NijiEN has the best chemistry and entertainment value.
>>12793043So far it's been Peckers. The median rankings are always on point with this.
>>12793043vtuber with the most gold medals? Pekora
>>12793094Aren't they already attending a vtuber concert with HoloJP present?
>>12792980Yeah and she tried to read them all in a single stream, and chat challenged her to read them in 2 hours or she would face a punishment, and they all got to vote on her punishment. That was hilarioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbHhPUnLAGU&t=15792
>>12793043Marine and Pekora. No one else can get the numbers they get just doing normal stuff. It will most probably be a complete wipeout of the month for holos and if not that very close to it. Something like 28-29 wins in the month.
>>12793094Probably. Polka probably has leeway to do whatever the hell she wants.>>12793130Yeah but that's just Miko and Suisei.
>>12793043Pekora always seem to win in days where there is no event/no one plays buff games.
>>12793096heh
>>12792426>>12792472She did say she is working on new projects but damn. This feels like kneecapping a talent if you are going to be picky with what spons she can only work on.
>>12793297I don't even know if it's Cover being picky or IRyS being picky. We simply have no idea on the specifics of how any of this operates behind the scenes in HoloEN.
>>12793100>>12793125>>12793143>>12793161Pekora seems to be the most common answer. It makes sense i guess. How is pekora getting this much numbers on her solo stream?
>>12793385Cover's on staff witchdoctors use old, black magics.
>>12793143>28-29 wins in the month.niji already won once (?) with the blond tit 3D and today, plus splatoon tournament is surefire topping the dayso.... maybe 20 holo 10 for niji and indie
>>12793352>>12793297How do you even sell a EN VSinger in Japan that sings japanese songs? not to mention her design is extremely horrendous to look at so it really not marketable
>>12793385Hard work, talent, and the best streaming time slot. She really knows how to play into the nousagi and they love to go along for the ride.
>>12793385She braided her hair
>>12793439>indieyou mean Hal, right? although he's not even an indie anymore
>>12793439We are talking about a month without events, tourny and collab and who will dominate it anon.
>>12793385Consistency in schedules, efficient but entertaining at clearing games, crazy luck or intuition to always get herself a clipper moment, and unironically being a numberfag but in a good way.
>>12793439Read the thing I replied to anon. I was answering a question about who will in a month with no events/collabs/tourney/totsu etc.
>>12793153>Just Miko and Suisei.I'd say those are the most relevant JPs. Suisei likely won't interact with them because she is very professional, but Miko just might be in the same wavelength as them
>>12793555No events for Hololive.
>>12793597Does anyone in Vshojo know even a lick of Japanese ?
>>12793620idk man, working with a company to collab on a game based on one of their talents seems like an event to me
>>12793636You act like it ever stopped them. They managed to play Among Us with Ai, Deron and Siro despite not speaking a common language
When will Vshojo 3D live event with other JP peasants take place?
>>12793652I meant Nijisanji and others keep their events but Hololive doesn't get theirs.
>>12793450>sings JP songs>how to market to JP?Do you hear how retarded you sound? The numbers don't lie. She has better and consistent numbers no matter how you feel about her model. It would be easier to actually get spons for her since she regularly does gaming and singing streams.
>>12793555Nijisanji splatoon at the end of November.
>>12793297I think that neither Cover nor IRyS are being picky. If she hasn't received any sponsorship yet (assuming that none is coming and we just don't know about it), chances are that sponsors simply didn't think it was necessary to specifically pick her out.I'm not trying to shit on IRyS, but just think about it: as far as I now, there are generally two ways a Hololive member is picked for a sponsored stream. Either the sponsors choose them, or the sponsor choose another member(s) and Cover negotiate to get them (and some others) into the deal. IRyS' numbers are good, but is there any reason why sponsors would specifically pick her? It's not like she fills any particular gaming niche (i.e: Kiara with her RPGs, Gura with her rhythm games). Neither is she the latest kid on the block - Council has taken this spot. Moreover, among the fresh faces of HoloEN, Kronii has higher number, and Mumei is at comparable level (IRyS' average CCV is higher, while Mumei's median is higher; IRyS has slightly higher membership floor, but the difference is less than 1,000). So, if you are a sponsor, why would you want to say "I want that IRyS girl to play my game" instead of "I want that Kronii girl (who has higher numbers in all aspects) to play my game"?Of course, there is the chance that HoloEN management would choose her as part of the sponsor deal with other EN members. However, it'd be easier to pick Myth / Council members instead (being in the same generation and having the same management makes it easier to coordinate). Unironically, IRyS being the lone member of Project: Hope (for now) and being managed by a different team might have worked against her here.(That's just my speculation, of course. It's not like I can tell exactly what Cover or HoloEN management is thinking)
Does anyone has an idea what do sponsors consider their pick on? Obviously, they have the data and anons might not but someone could have known.Gura CRK has barely 15k watching but 500k views for example, which do they actually care about? The click on those ad links?
>>12793693>Playing AmongUs with Japanese vtubers is the same as communicating with them in a normal setting.
>>12793803Anon. Your logic only stands if only Bae wasn't chosen.
>>12793792>Tell me anon who do you think will dominate daily top 1 list in a month without events/celebration/tournament/collab/totsu.This is what we are talking about anon.
>>12793636I know Nyanners and Hajime do, not sure beyond that>>12793698Next month some time
>>12793882Bae couldn't have been picked as part of the package, though. I.e: sponsor picked Kronii, and Cover negotiated to get Baelz into the deal (and Mumei in case of Eternal Blue)
>>12793981This only means Irys is being handled by a separate team.
>>12793929Oh. Then that's easy, Pekora or Miko
>>12793803We will have to wait. She's working on some projects and doing recordings. It could be sponsored.
>>12793864Average viewer while streaming is important since views on VODs can be as little as a minute or two. Bae and Kronii were 15k if you add their channels together. If Gura and Ame cost more than Bae and Kronii then the latter duo is probably more bang for your buck.
>>12793981Bae could*, not couldn't, I'm getting sleepy>>12794029Well, yeah, Kiara said so in her stream before
>>12793981Maybe Bae has unique viewers. Judging from her first shill stream she seems to try and sell it and she's not prone to emotional outburts.
>>12794029checking other vsingers none of them done a sponsorship stream. Hachi, mair, himehina, yuni, etc.
>>12793788>market to JP>ENYou're the retard. Her Audience is EN. She's EN.
>>12794341Her EP was only #1 in east asia and only 30th in USA.
>Anykara to all the livers>Don't schedule a stream near the event>Don't stream over the event>Now it's your chance to be useful>Your viewers should watch the biggest event for a single liver in the yearHow much is the physical ticket? Close to $100 again?
>>12794370Don't lie anon.
>>12794341>EN VSinger in Japan that sings japanese songs?This is the statement. They weren't asking how to market the girl to global but to JP.
>>12794370That was Kuzuha. You got it mixed up.
>>12794539I don't think Anycolor did anything. People just know that if they streamed over it they'd get flak from his schizos.
>>12794664The difference is that Kuzuha actually has a lot of EOP fangirls.
>>12794539More like Kuzuha's schizo fans will raid anyone who streams over it.
>>12794664>Kuzuha>30th in USA
>>12794751ESL fangirls you mean
>>12794751How a lot are you talking about? Seeing that when his Vampire cover hit midnight JP the views stagnate as if being choked, I doubt that. Of course, with data you provide, if you have, I will change my mind.
>>12794370> only 30th in USA.Why did you bother lying about such easily verifiable stuff?
>>12794796>Malaysia>Singapore>Philippines>Indonesia>Vietnam>Thailand>Cambodia>US / CA nowhere in sightSEA King...
>>12794300Kamitsubaki sing several mobage song but never shill stream.>>12794539Live : 9600 yenRegular stream : 4400Limited stream : 7700 yen
>>12794796i would never willingly perceive the vampire
>>12794300This is the only thing that I can recall https://youtu.be/q_RU_QhLS_0
>>12794539Hololive also did the same. Although it's more like a basic courtesy rather than a rule since we have ID constantly streaming over events.
>>12794796Lets go Lithuanians!
What went wrong with Lain? Besides her awful voice and lack of tact you'd think she wouldn't be so dead.
>>12795240You tell me. You disliked her vod.
>>12795257I do that for every edengumi stream.
>>12795283Why. I don't like nor dislike.
>>12795240>deadShe's doing average for a woman in Nijisanji.
>>12795372I don't even watch them
>>12795372Dislikes are actually better than likes for the algorithm and activity. That's why I dislike every NijiEN stream being recommended to me
>>12795085I mean it's normal for Holos to not stream over events especially during primetime because it's courtesy. I'm just curious why there aren't any streams from people at this time when usually there are. Is it really kuzuha's fans being schizos? One example is during Gen 1's concert.
>>12788152Anything less than 300k is a massive disappointment. I say this as a massive Kuzuha fan. I am expecting big things from this. I hope it doesn't disappoint me.
>>12795240Unironic answer from me to a bait post because I've got nothing better to do: her design promised me too much and when she debuted she underdelivered relative to my expectations. It's fully on my autism rather than her but I was expecting a deep voice FPS player with /k/ tendencies. Am I retarded for thinking she'd be like that? Yes. Will I watch her? Probably not.
>>12795414I saw this pic before but I don’t know what you’re trying to tell us.
>>12795545>I saw this pic beforeNah, you didn’t.>I don’t know what you’re trying to tell us.Nothing. Make of them what you will.
>>12795531imo I'm pretty disappointed at Edengumi so far, not because of numbers, but because I held too high of an expectation for them being the newest JP gen coming out after a year. Their debuts was promising, but oh boy, their personalities doesn't translate well to streams or to their characters.
>>12795531She's just cute but in a cool package. Miscast.
>>12795531I remember people were saying that her voice sounds similar to Al*e.
>>12795531That sucks. Maybe a future redesign can help her out.
Odo race to 1m place your bets
>>12795531Kinda expected her to do anything with her shark motif. Disappointed it never went anywhere
>>12795640kinda like her sister, Flare...
>>12795761The pride of Hololive vs funny meme shark
>>12795761The better singer will win
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tOQLL93gsIt's finally time
>>12795789I like Gura, but her version of Odo was not her best work. I'm surprised it's almost 1m views
>30 most viewed>40
>>12795854I really liked IRyS' version of Odo. She killed it.
>>12795414Nimu singlehandedly mogged the top of vshojo
>>12795414Finana beating the Wave 3 collab kinda makes me feel bad for em.
>>12795414Vshojo without raids.
>>12795969Is this the equivalent of indie Hal mogged holo mem?
>>12795969Nimu is honorary vshojo.>>12795639Wrong models and I feel people moved on from them before they could get their bearings.
Any idea why she is trending? Or maybe this is a different Kiara?
>>12796031It's the equivalent of Hal mogging Kuzuha.If Nimu mogs Gura, then yeah, it's the equivalent of Hal mogging Holomem.
>>12795941Her version is almost studio level crisp. This dude was able to make an MV for her https://youtu.be/2SXHxLnr7Js
>>12796085She did an endurance karaoke.
>>12796085Karaoke stream iirc
>>12796111IRyS karaoke is always crisp.
>>12796120>>12796125Oh right I forgot.
>>12796184She also hit her goal of 1.25 mil so that could also be a factor
>>1279584110. Suisei - Next Color Planet9. Mori - Bully8. Mori and BOOGEY VOXX - Graveyard Shift7. Gura - REFLECT6. Mori - Red5. Mori - RIP4. Suisei - GHOST3. HoloMyth - Myth or Treat2. Suisei - Stellar Stellar1. Mori - end of lifeLike usual, top 10 is full with Suisei's and Mori's original songs and despite having 11 original songs, none of Watame's original songs appear here.Also it's missing Ayame's original song.
>>12795841>Mori and Suisei win lolDamn. We need them to graduate for diversity's sake.
>>12796364Reflect is the only song that doesn't feature Mori or Suisei. My lord those two just dominate Hololive music.
>>12796364Rip Reflect. No longer the powerhouse it once was.GHOST is likely going to be the new powerhouse now (outside of new releases). And to be fair, it's probably one of Suisei's best
>>12795841>>12796364>>12796391>>12796396Pink and blue is the strongest combination
>>12796446PekoMiko…
>>12796364It's because this channel has a more than 5(?) days rule since it's release to be charted. Not really needed when Yoi no Yo, Yoi would be 10th over Next Color Planet.But Suisei and Mori totals for 9 songs out of the top 10 and 12 out of top 15, exactly like I predicted but I forgot about KanaTowa original >>12790769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjlMPu5sEgwGetcha only need 55k to 10M, also Tenkyuu at 9.8M and GHOST at 9.7M
No major streams on Hololive. Kuzuha's Concert will take the day then i guess?What stream could possibly beat a fuckin celebration concert? Holos already used all their bullets
>>12796419Yea, the lack of an MV is hurting reflect, and it looks like the Topic version has gained weight k the algo too if you look at views gained. This is an advantage Mori's originals have over everyone since her topic is merged into her channel for views.
>>12796487>PekoMiko dominate streaming>Deathstar dominate musicBlue/Pink alliance dominates on all fronts.
>>12796509Marine's guerilla graduation(if /hlgg/ is to be believed) might take it.
>PREDICTIONS?Also: will she enable SC?
>>1279654717k max.
>>12796543>Marine's guerilla graduation(if /hlgg/ is to be believed) might take it.there's no way they're that retarded, right?
>>12796547>unarchived>enable SCAnon-chama...
>>12796532GuraMori dominate subs...or GuraAI ( AI is pink)
>>12796547>Unarchived >Enabling SC
>>12796581how new anon? every single announcement is a graduation especially if its from a holo
>>12796582>>12796588Oh, wait… you’re right. Should make an archived one right after
>>12796581Oh yesterday was 'fun'. Between the mistranslated Korone and Ominous Senchou announcement the threads were chock full of DOOMPOSTING.
>>12796547Only for the archived karaoke if she's smart. Why even do unarchived first? Come out with the biggest swing you have and empty their wallets in a fit of emotion. Don't make them lose interest with the unarchived version. Take them to the cleaners. I will massively seethe if Sana doesn't take SCs for her archived karaoke. I take council's unwillingness to earn poorly, it feels like they're insulting us.
>>12796619She's doing an archived zatsudan/return stream afterwards.
>>12796651I still feel extremely uneasy about Korone. Not numbers related but it kinda hurts.>MarineFuck if I know. Sounds like the usual schizo shit.
>>12796655IRyS is really the only one in EN who can properly pull off archive karaoke since she already knows so many Japanese songs. Kiara does it too but not nearly as often as IRyS.EN Karaoke streams are almost always going to be unarchived.
>>12796492Suisei about to get 3 more songs over 10 million, insane. Mori also has like 4 songs within striking distance pretty soon too (Live Again, Red, Off with Their Heads, and the Roki cover).These two can't be stopped when it comes to music.
>>12796709Well, with Korone, she has a ton of irl shit that she's mentioned being a major stressor (mom's sick, extended family member probs passed from what I've heard) and she was NOT diagnosed with autonomous nerve disorder or whatever the fuck that SeaMonkey translation was, more like general stress so her 'nerves were shot'. I remain neutral on Marine, but we've got an announcement frame up in 5 and a half hours.
>>12796831>more like general stress so her 'nerves were shot'That does happen. I've known someone who went through it. Extreme stress leads to not eating or sleeping right.
>>12787927NijiEN's average viewers are literally just error bars for HoloEN
>>12796831Probably nothingburger if Korone will stream ASMR at the same time.
>>12796770Cover needs to graduate and unperson them so they sign with Anycolor. Us holofans want to see more of our favorites rather than the same 2 all the time.
>>12796874Are people really worried about Marine's announcement with a thumbnail like that? LOLCoco's announcement has really given people some serious PTSD.
>>12796874Sana probably wouldn't come back the same day Marine has a graduation announcement. I don't think there would be a 6 man holo collab right before a graduation announcement. Gen 3 concert was cancelled most likely.
>>12788558YT ghosts everybody. If anything Vtubers are getting better treatment than most. Like Coco got that antispam earlier than other channels and how clips got enabled for Holo channels before the wide release.
>>12796874What type of graduation announcement has a thumbnail like that? Isn't black thumbnails the common procedure for serious announcements? Like rushia's break for example.
>>12796487>>12796532MiComet dominates my heart.
>>12796893Interesting hypothetical. I wonder how much of Mori's fanbase would follow her if she left Hololive and signed with NijiEN.The Hololive brand is strong as we saw from Kson. She still puts up good numbers but not nearly as much as she did as Coco so the greater Hololive fanbase didn't follow her over.
>>12796922Niggers here don’t even watch Marine they’re just itching for any drama.
>>12796979Mori in NijiEN would be a HUGE asset. Like, the management better fucking grovels under her feet.
>>12791327Are they not? What is Youtube Gaming anyway, and how does it differ from regular youtube streaming?>>12791102>>12791238Those articles are completely missing the point though. The "decline" in viewers they're reporting coincides directly with Youtube's implementation of the viewer culling that's hit HoloEn's views
>>12796981True. I...uh, may have caused the /ahoy/ general to go a bit schizo by posting a link to her tweet yesterday. Oops.Regardless, the announcement is important, so hopefully good or neutral news.
I was just checking Miko's channel to see how many views the sports fest stream got and I noticed that the ridiculous baby stream she did earlier this year is only 8,000 views away from 1 million. That would give her 4 streams with over 1 million views.https://youtu.be/5vNh4QIR5Sc
>>12796979Calli is not the best example, she might be amassing lots of “music only” fans that aren’t around for her streams but that listen to and are fans of her music. Those would follow her anywhere, but most holos don’t have that segment
>>12796979Most of Cocos casual fanbase didn’t follow her. Her hardcore gachis did though, or at least a good fraction. Hence her bananas SC income/ccv ratio.Mori leaving Myth for NijiEN is so implausible I have a hard time imagining how it would go. If it were in good terms Coco style her music fanbase would largely carry over. If it were in bad terms she would cultivate an absolutely incredible crop of psycho antis. Like I said it’s such a weird scenario I can’t predict how it would go
>>12796527Despite being crippled with no MV (and might get crippled again after the MV version released). Gura is doing extremely well when music isn't her main.
Anyone notice Kiara basically did a five song set of kpop songs during her karaoke? Mostly English/Jp versions but also did a KR version. KR bros were popping out of the bushes in chat. Still think Gura should do the same and let the KR clippers go to work and cement HL as the dominant KR vtubers and lay the groundwork the same way Korone, Coco et al did for EN
Kuzuha's preshow has already mogged all of today's finished streams.
>>12797365I can't even imagine a way for it to happen in good terms. The only way I could imagine would some kind of merger between Cover and Anycolor and they send Calli to sav-, I mean, boost NijiEn
>>12797446my knees are ready Kuzubros.
>>12797100oops my mistake. Yeah majority are under Gaming, but there are some under Music like Calli and HimeHina>What is Youtube Gaming anyway, and how does it differ from regular youtube streaming?it's the category of your channel
>>12797446this time for sure! Nijisanji main channel #1 for today
>>12797446Kuzusis are you going all out in shitposting today?
>>12797491This will not slip!
>>12797491Is it the entire event or is it just a preview for the paid concert?
>>12797447I feel like Myth are intensely loyal to each other, even more so than to Cover. It would take some tremendous yab to make one of them leaving for another company palatable to their fans. Coco making the national news and battling chinks for nearly a year was enough but it would require something of that magnitude. Going back to their previous lives would probably be fine though.
>>12797587https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqfrq_vpv4
>>12797615Sorry, I don't watch Nijishitty and I refuse to click on the video to read the description. The day I give Nijishitty a view is the day I leave this earth. Fuck them.
>>12797141Another example of an unusual 1M VOD:>Big collabs>Major events>Endurance Streams>First Yakuza streamand finally>Random Minecraft stream about her house getting hit by lightning
>>12794300not sure if it counts as shill stream but when MaiR got the kangol deal, she did shill it for some time on her regular singing streams
>>12797649The absolute state of holobronies
>>12797663That stream was actually hyped up since people noticed it had burned down watching other member's streams and wanted to see Pekora's reaction to it.
>>12797649Just read the title if you're able to do that.
>>12794911Kamitsubaki has performed some anime songs too.
>>12797663This is a fun game let’s check some other Holos… holy shit Gura has a lot of 1M videos. Plug and play? Random Minecraft steams?
>>12797704It hit its peak of 60k viewers long after Pekora visited and reacted to her home though. It was the PekoMoona Wither fight
>>12797806Well yeah, Gura mogs everybody when it comes to streams with 1 million views.
>>12797811Oh wow, I totally forgot that was also part of that stream.
>>12797781*anime theme songshttps://anidb.net/creator/61097https://anidb.net/creator/64735https://anidb.net/creator/64302https://anidb.net/cr65431
>>12797806Yeah Gura is a massive outlier when it comes to VOD views. She's the only one like that
>>12788152>first 10 minutes40k>30 minutes70k>if it goes longer than that80k peak
>>12797878Kuzuha? dude stream like long hours with high ccv
So... Today winner is Nijisanji, not Kizuna? Since we count the channel which has the stream
>>12797949Kuzuha's 1M are mostly him putting on long watch hours to bloat out the vod view later. His view trends is shit though.
>>12797878The statement that I've seen one or two Anons say that "Gura is more like a traditional YouTuber who happens to stream instead of a vtuber in terms of subgrowth" seems to mesh with this. Lots of people subbed go her, and watch the VODs, not that much of an increase to her CCV. The twitter to sub-rate for Gura vs the rest of Hololive (and Council, for obvious reasons of sub-slashing) also line up. So yea, her subs aren't dead subs per say, just different types of watchers. I bet a lot of them are clipwatchers too.
>>12797878VOD views are useless, how many times does this place have to tell you????
>>12797811>PekoMoona Wither fight>>12797833>I totally forgot that was also part of that streamThat Minecraft arc was stacked as fuck. For instance, in the same day of streaming>Moona finished her automatic secret escalators >Miko made her first visit to the server in a while>Moona got a lot of dogs>Sora met moona for the first time>Pekora had that hilarious scene where she hits Moona’s dogs and they chase ber>Moona helps Sora to find dogs >Miko visits Moona’s house in their first interaction ever and get pranked by her by getting trapped under the stairs There was a reason Pekora was getting 60k on MC streams and it was not just because pre cut.
>>12797949I think the strange thing is Gura also have streams with low ccv or short stream time can still reach 1M, might because new fans rewatch her old content?
>>12797984Kuzuha you pleb! And yes, winner would be Nijisanji(Nijisanji) since it's on the main channel.
>>12797949>>12797996Well he has this seemingly random Rhythm Heaven stream
>>12797984lol yeah, can't wait for kuzuhaschizo to cry about it.
Looking at the music rankings HL Suisei and Mori alone are enough to completely dominate. It made me think, the only realistic way I could see NijiEN inclining dramatically is getting a musician as productive and successful as either of them. Not easy obviously, since signing with HL would be the obvious choice but at least conceivable. Any other niche weeb musical artists poised to break out that follow vtubers out there? I mean there have to be a few
>>12798027>>12797984Poor Kuzuha can't even claim it's his gold even though it's a celebration concert of him LMAOSasuga King of Bronze
>>12797878She's not an outlier, she has huge CCVs that are just hidden because of Youtube's broken filtering
>>12798008>this placeYou surely mean one (1) schizo
>>12797984Yep, Kuzuha will not get a gold.Although the stream isn't doing as well as I was expecting. Its almost 40 minutes in and only slightly over 30k. Certainly good but some anons here were saying 100k.
>>12798046>2 years agoThat's a telltale of the old. We don't have data on view trends for that.
>>12798076its not the concert yet.
>>12798068ding ding ding
>>12798076It's not the free part yet, dumbass
>>12798022Clips help a ton here. You see a clip, you might go back and catch parts of the vod you missed. Since Gura gets clipped a ton, she reaps the sub + VOD watches for those who do go VOD trawling. >12798008(you) claim they are useless. They are not. YouTube is primarily a video WATCHING site first and foremost, and VODs are actually useful unlike on Twitch where that shit is gone after a month. And don't go dredging that Hal interview up, I already looked at it and broke it down as to why it's not necessarily applicable to Holomem who get good VOD growth, even though the points he makes are important to consider.
>>12798115Anon, the concert is a paid event. It won't be on youtube. The video going on now even has links where you can buy tickets for the niconico broadcast.
>>12798076>Yep, Kuzuha will not get a gold.Wait wait wait wait wait … am I kneeling in the wrong direction? I thought Kuzuha would get the gold today! What’s with the vampire donating his gold first to the Chronoir channel and then to the main channel. When was even the last time he finished #1?
Kuzuha is going to cry about he's mistreated in this thread while wiping tears with all the money he got from the event.
>>12798061There is an infinite pool of Utaites to draw from.
>>12798208>talking about moneyNijikeks are already inhaling copium. Not a good sign.
are all ninji concerts streamed on the main niji channel not the streamer's?
>>12798061>a musician as productive and successful as either of them.Music part is definitely true. It's one of the few thing that can't be largely contained by the holobubble. But nijisanji music talents are signed up to a label. Nijisanji doesn't try to be a music producer in the way INNK/Cover does. So it's better for a music producing indie might to just sign up to a label directly. Or join Sony
>>12797842I wonder why they don't include new Muv-Luv's opening they've done recently. I wish we actually knew their sales, that'd be interesting to compare.
>>12798247Yep because money is much less valuable than ccv.
>>12798150I can’t imagine why you would ever go back and watch an Apex VOD if the streamer has hundreds of other multi hour Apex VODs unless something very interesting happened and you wanted content. Highlights, clips sure but the stream VOD itself probably not.
>>12798208When he said he's afraid to stream last night, is it to boost his money output on the concert? sasuga vampire sama
>>12798298Hal has more total views from livestream VODs than video uploads though?
>>12798273They sale all the merch/cds at their booth site so you'll never get any numbers from there.
>>12798008you and the other voices in your head still only count as 1 person.
>>12798270>Or join SonyNot on my watch
33k for the preshow1.8k waiting for the free portiong of the showwhich is kinda low imoIs the free portion also being streamed on Nico?
>>12798298Exactly one of the points I made. There is almost no reason to rewatch an Apex VOD. There are plenty of reasons you might want to go back and watch a VOD from Gura or Pekora or Marine. That's why Hal's views from videos/highlight reels are going to be way better than VOD growth, even before accounting for the difference in ad rev and YT premium.
>>12798225Utaites mostly do covers. The percent who produce their own originals is much smaller. Mori also brings in a very different crowd that’s EN friendly. I don’t think just finding a successful utaite would work the same way.
I'm checking the live viewership rankings on Ikioi and the Kuzuha stream is actually LOSING viewership. Just dropped from 33k to 31k after I refreshed. What a massive flop this turned out to be.
>>12798297I’ll be bold and say, at least for this thread>a number you can measure and compare is worth more than a dozen numbers you can’t
>>12798357>Sony AHAHAHAHAHHA someone needs their history reps
>>12798393It’s not the main event yet to the best of my knowledge. The free part of the main even is a separate stream
>>12798270>it's better for a music producing indie might to just sign up to a label directly. Or join SonyTrue talents would do directly to them. Not trying to become a vtuber. Although, the easiest path to success as compared to being invested by music labels or sony where failure means your entire career is finished, is by becoming a vtuber first. Honestly though, you get better buck joining Hololive instead since labels won't cut a huge chunk of your music revenue and you already got a steady stream of a global fanbase.
>>12798441Cope
>>12798361I think so
>>12798061I wonder why they didn't try to hire at least 1 member in Council that is a musician like Mori, since it can definitely boost the gens popularity in the long run
>>12798375Well yeah, but that's due to them not having the resources to produce an original. They could do something similar to IRyS and hire the best Utaite they could find and hook them up with composers/lyricists. Not a foolproof strategy of course, Anycolor might be aiming for a Suisei or a Calli but end up getting someone with worse numbers than AZKi.
>>12798374>That's why Hal's views from videos/highlight reels are going to be way better than VOD growth>https://playboard.co/en/channel/UChLfthKoUV502J7gU9STArg (2020/06/28 ~ 2021/06/28)>Number of Video Upload only vids = 258>Total of Video Upload only vids views = ~42.729M views>Number of Livestream = 716>Total of Livestream (VOD) views = ~118.204M views>views are going to be way better
>>12798061They're not in Elira's and Pomu's circle of indie friends? Sorry they're not getting in.
ok so, am i missing something?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL8i_PzVLYsthis is the stream right?is everyone in the preshow stream?or everyone is going to watch it on nico only?the waiting room is really lowand we are 10min until then
>>12798502>musician like Morito avoid doubling specialties probably. But that's stupid. Just needs someone in a different music genre
>>12798249There haven't been solo live concerts for a long time but yeah, they are.
>>12798375Mori is literally the golden goose cover had ever laid eyes upon in the industry. No other utaites could measure up to her. Singing ability? Yes probably. But they don't have skills song writing, music production, connections and animation skills that Mori has on top of her work ethic. That's why Cover should get Milky straight away for EN3.
Using the hashtag feature on YT, most of Nijisanji's Korean clips were made like 3 months ago while new Hololive's Korean clips are being uploaded almost every hour. The views of Niji clips also trail behind Holo clips as well. Most of Nijisanji's most viewed Korean clips involve Hololive one way or another. I kinda find that really funny.
>>12798544Pre-show is fuwa and other livers shilling the stream before the actual concert. The free part comes after that.
>>12798008yeah thats why all youtubers that only upload videos and don't stream are massive failures
>>12798435Do you not know who that is, newfag?
>>12798502Maybe they thought it would be more important to fill other niches since they have Mori, Kiara and Irys for music output on the EN side.
>>12798324Yes, but the interview he talked about video view gain, and indicated that his short highlight videos did better in view gain/time vs his VODs, and also that the shirt videos were helpful for sub growth and viewer attraction. Which makes sense since they're basically him clipping his own stuff instead of having a legion of clippers at his beck and call like Hololive has.Remember, he streams almost every day but only puts a short video out like, once a week+ from the looks of it.
>>12798604>>12798435Whoops meant to quote >>12798270 lmao
>>12798558All of that, and the most important thing>to be stuck in a dead end job in Japan trying to make ends meetWithout that she wouldn’t have fit the “Yahoo house of broken dolls” theme and would likely have succeeded on her own without needing rescue
>>12798594i just find the waiting room rally low. no one from the preshow also have that tab open seem such a weird jop behavior.
>>12798506Mori had multiple albums while living a grim poorfag existence eating shitty takeout off her computer/desk/table. You can put out a Cover by being a pretty good singer. Creating an original requires writing, singing, mixing, editing, sometimes translation, and production skills which she either can do herself or has a circle of creatives she can call upon. For Mori she also did her own animation and MVs. That’s partially why she’s pumping out covers and originals at >1/month.
>>12798647You don't understand. Raindrops and Gen 1's concert preshow had below 10k for a preshow. You can kind guess already the floor for the concert part when the free part for the two concerts got 28k and 44k respectively.
>>12798583>Most of Nijisanji's most viewed Korean clips involve Hololive one way or anotherKek, please tell me at least they clip niji KR
>>12798647give it a bit of a wait anon.
>>12798508Thanks for the raw numbers.I do wonder how the growth on his older videos do as well, as he mentioned that they had surprisingly good growth even though they were 'old' whereas his VODs got almost no new views after a day or two. Also, the length of the videos does affect total views so I wonder how that works out to views/video length (I could do the math but I'm being a filthy phoneposter right now)
>>12798749Problem is stream views count as views but they only show ads at the start. VOD of the stream and clips/highlights have a much better ad/view time ratio.
>>12798641I was replying to a post about music taklents for NijiEN. It is doubtful if any EOP/ESL outside of 4chan even remembers who Kaguya Luna is. But they will know Sony and that its a media giant
>>12798076>Certainly good but some anons here were saying 100k.It's not going to get 100k because the people watching the youtube stream are tourists and poorfags who didn't get a ticket.Why would you watch the free portion on youtube when you have a virtual ticket? None of his hardcore fans will be watching the stream on youtube.The same applies for every previous Holo or Niji free concert stream.
>>12798647Gotta remember that mobile adoption is pretty high in Japan, and given the times a lot of people are watching on phone instead of at home so they can't be in both the preshow and the waiting room at the same time.
>>12798061Ethyria was supposed to be that - a music focused gen. 3/4 members were pretty well-known singers / utaites before. However, you cannot blow up solely on your singing even if you are amazing. Even Suisei needed a big break with Saga Jihen and Next Color Planet gaining huge traction to blow up as a singer. Adding on to that, her stream moments like Project Winter, Tetris, and Hi Honey attract new people to check out her music and cultivate her core music fanbase.On the other hand, Mori started her Hololive career with an extremely unique EP that featured speed rap, melodic / ballad rap and a killer loopable debut song in R.I.P, all with her own lyrics and wordplays. She instantly got a huge music following and she has been doing a great job cultivating it even more.It's hard to succeed with Mori's way since you need to find a unique niche that can captivate a large audience. But it is possible to blow up like Suisei with what Ayame did. Without talking about her "not streaming" buff, Ayame propelled herself upward with her cover of Goodbye Sengen. Since then, new people got recommended and became her music fan, listening to her King, Ghost in a Flower, and Yoi no Yo, Yoi.
>>12798808yeah but its hard to deny how awful Sony's management was considering how Luna was basically a silver platter with her talent and huge convert audience. So I can imagine how shit it would be for other prospecting vtubers under Sony with even less ideal starting points.
>>12798558People that aren't familiar with Mori don't seem to realize how much of a workaholic she is, like she needs to be working on a project at all times.
>>12798821i guess that could be 9.7k nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL8i_PzVLYs
>>12798838Yep, it all started with her debut. She had a fully produced original song complete with a full music video on her freaking debut stream. That is kind of insane.
>>12798061Didn't Mori also announced that she will release a new song with another myth this month? + Another one in the future with an indie(Milky). I wonder why cover waited so long for her to collab with indies, and what are planning that they allowed it
>※本配信の切り抜きやスクリーンショットの撮影はご遠慮ください。※Please refrain from taking screenshots and/or clips of this stream.kek
How much will Sony have to offer to convince Mori to jump shit?
>>12798972Money can't buy freedom
>>12798969Oh myHololive encourages screenshots of their concerts.
>>12798969Weird, doesn't Hololive show allow screenshots though?
>>12799008Screenshots yes, clips no
>>12798972Remember when this board was convinced Haachama and Shion were graduating soon after Coco's graduation and the great exodus was about to start?Fun times.
Mori and Gura are the aces of the Myth generation.They are both pink and blue women. Coincidence? I think not!.But seriously. Cover must have some black magic in their recruiting department when they got Gura and Calli on their first EN generation.
>>12798969is this only for kuzuha's or is it the same for all niji concerts?
>>12798972>destroy all current ties for moneyTry again next life.
>>12798838Once you're in the algo train. You've got to keep it coming. Be it with memes or new songs.
>>12799007Screenshots were allowed for the last 2 Niji concerts...
>>12799046only this one. my guess is since is gonna be deleted they have some kind of deal with NND
>>12799007Of course. The know how valuable free advertising from the fans are.
>>12798969Kuzuha NFT confirmed!!!
>>12799066The free sections for Niji concerts are always deleted.Might be something new that happened after the last concert stream.
>>12799007Why does Nijisanji keep doing this though? People said Hololive was isolated in vtuber world but they are generous with their fans. Nijisanji, on the other hand, keeps on stifling any chance to bring Niji to a wider audience.
>>12798811If you're a fan of the guy why wouldn't you watch both parts?
>>12798969>AnyColor staff
>>12798972Big labels are attractive to new artists because they provide access to top tier studios and requirement, producers, mixers, vocal coaches, and will advertise and distribute your work. They will also cover up front costs because all of that is expensive.Mori doesn’t need that really. She has enough skill in most aspects of music production she either already has contacts or can scout fans who can do it probably for cheap. She’s popular enough she can get access to top talents and she has huge social media presence already. She is absolutely rolling in money. Whatever minor benefits she might get aren’t worth the label’s cut. And of course she would never leave Myth and her friends to sell out to Sony.
>is also streamed on tiktokdidnt even know niji had a tiktok account
>>12799112Why would you watch the free section on youtube when you have a ticket and can watch the whole thing on NND?
>>127989602 collab covers with Milky, high chance of them being 2 Ado songs. For Milky she just wanted to make sure to not collab before the results of Vsinger and Council (her words from a members only stream).For Boogey Voxx I'm not sure but I'm glad that they got to collab at the end.
Imagine if Cover didn't allow screenshots. We wouldn't have kino images like this.
>>12798838Doing an elaborate music video based on a popular anime with Gen 3 as your background singers isn't really luck, that's stacking the deck in your favor to make it popular. I don't know what the Niji equivalent would be, a duet with Kuzuha maybe? Anyway none of the new girls or even IRyS/Council in Holo have had a chance to do anything that big yet.
>>12799149>they do it for free
>>12798838Didn't Millie and Enna from Ethyria have original debut songs too? I wasn't sure if they were parody or something. I know Enna can mix herself but they mostly commissioned the other stuff.
>>12799181>>12799112Some anon on nijiEN thread is gonna restream it on twitch
>>12799200>Comparing a free 3D live with a free section of a paid event that will be deleted the moment the stream endsAnycolor is dumb for banning screenshots, but this is a retarded comparison.
>>12799202Gen 3 wasn't even popular then. Gen 3 was probably piggybacking on Suisei's popularity with bilibili
>>12799198EN management was way, way overprotective of Myth. Forget BGV Mori wasn’t allowed to collab with Coco. Early on they didn’t have the confidence to rock the boat. But some of it may just have been time. Mori is clearly busy af but 4chan fucking with Fra’s google doc was ages ago so things were in the works for a long time.
>>12799106is always deleted becasue they do covers.
>concert start with a coverEh welp there goes the percentage of the money
>>12799241Blocks your path>>12799149
>>12799028I thought Haachama and maybe Shion were leaving too, but not necessarily anyone else. I still think Haachama came close to leaving but settled on a sporadic streaming schedule. Shion I'm not sure about but she seems to have somewhat recovered with whatever she was going through. Korone was another one people were worried about and I don't think her situation has really gotten much better.
>>12799273How many originals do they even have for this concert? Is it going to be all covers? That seems a bit underwhelming
13k members of our global Kuzuha discord have alread brought tickets to watch his concert. This might be a good base line to ser how many tickets he has sold.
15mins in and it have 39kWelp, i guess Niji is really sure to win today.
50k is given i thinki wonder how high it will gomaybe 80k
>>12799273He only has 1 original song that's solo.All his other originals are Chronoir or with Kanae.>40k in 4 minsIf it's 20 mins like most Niji free sections, looking to be around 55k?
>>12799301It literally never makes sense to leave. Stream once a month and make a months salary in a day indefinitely. Why the fuck not? Cover doesn’t seem to care and it even makes room for new gens.
>>12798838Suisei didn't blow up in a few months. She was grinding all her career
>>12799301Really good news, the less heavy hitters for Holo, the better.
>>12799321>global Kuzuha discordis this EOPs and ESLs?
>>12799038This. Even without Gura, Calli would have been enough to make Myth standout. Having Gura on the same gen was just overkill. Pretty much the equivalent of Durant joining GSW. And yet, despite how stacked they are, one could easily argue that they're only a solid number 2 when compared to Gen 3. Two once in a lifetime gens joining the same company just confirms that Yagoo does indeed practice black magic.
>>12799349Seriously this. If Cover is ok with a streaming schedule like Ayame's why would you ever leave? Its not like they even prohibit you from doing stuff outside Hololive on your roommate accounts. Just look at Noel, Mel, and AZKi.
I'm not joking, after shitposting Kuzuha's embarrassing loses in the last week, I'm actually kind of happy he is going to get his gold. Time to kneel.
>>12799384unfortunately not gonna count as his since they streamed it on the niji official channel
>>12799384It will be Nijisanji (main) gold, not Kuzuha.
>kneeling to a literal guaranteed winPathetic.
>>12799349It doesn't make sense for the girls to do a lot of stuff they do, but they do it anyway. Moona can go to college without agonizing about it for months, ghosting her fanbase, and making people freak out.
>>12799332If they can't win with a Kuzuha concert then nijisan is in a dire state.
>>12799413>>12799417Damn you Nijisanji, atleast give him the Fool's gold.
>>12799384Looks like its going to hit 45k to 50k which is certainly a great number. However that is certainly beatable depending on what Marine's announcement is.
>>12799334>>12799338Give or take, it will go 50-60k. I'd like to see if it could beat Pekora's Korone game stream numbers. Okay, he sang Magi. So I'll forgive him for that, but man, his voice is shit. Astel sang better on this.
>>12799450marine's announcement will be about that crap collab pc i bet kek
>>12799377Comparing gen 3 and Myth seems pointless. If they coexisted in the same sphere they would compete. As it is they serve different audiences and grow the pie for everyone. With ccv fuckery its hard to say but between music, views, ccv, Superchats, clipper bait, global expansion, sponsors etc they are both powerhouses.
>>12799202>duet with KuzuhaIf Kuzuha wants to be the background character, sure. His original and Chronoir's show that Kuzuha's not really valuable for music content outside of meme songs anyway.>>12799235Only Enna has an original and it's doing fine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6-Jjovz-o>>12799359picrel for the start of her huge incline
>>12799458Huh. I don’t watch him but is he just…. Not a great singer? I’m not saying he’s Noel or Sana or anything.
>>12799458What a dumb comparison. Astel is actually a really good singer while Kuzuha can't sing for shit. This event being a concert is mostly fan service and nobody will try to argue about freaking Kuzuha being a great singer.
>>12799458yeah he isnt a good singer.but HEY the numbers are good.
>>12799486>picrel for the start of her huge inclineJan 2020.
>>12799156I remember people said the same thing about Suisei. I honestly can't see her leaving as well considering her deal with Cover was that she's allowed to keep the avatar that SHE made.
>>12799521The thing about some of the bigger stars leaving is that they could become even bigger than they were in Hololive, but they could also flop. When you are leveraging risk its really not a smart move. They are already massively popular and make tons of money so there is no reason to leave for the possible increase in fame you might get.
50k is good but a lot of nips were expecting over 65k.
53ki think 13 min left since it started late.
Meanwhile on the other side. Kanata and Mio seems to be doing the Korone game Funnel for tonight. Also split POV splatoon by 6 people(Robocco, Aki, Watame, Fubuki, Flare, Luna).
>>12799564How long is the free portion? 30 minutes?
>Kuzuha butchered my favorite old anime opening songI will never forgive him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8JuOhB7-U0
>>12799580yeah.
>>12799521One thing I find interesting is Suisei is relatively weak SC wise while Mori is a monster. If she vaguely references wanting something she gets buried in “new shoe fund!” Akasupas. Either way vtubing with Hololive seems like such easy income it seems crazy to ever leave. What could Sony offer really?
>>12799564is still rising Also that AR to screen transition is jarring.
>>12799600>What could Sony offer really?Bad management
A sea of wamen
>>12799520After she transferred from INNK into Hololive
>>12799600Suisei doesn't read SC.She has one of the highest memberships in Holo.And no she won't leave for Sony.
>>12799586its one of my favorites too but after hearing alot of Ame and Noel karaoke my ears are trained to receive butchered performances
>>12799443why did Niji's official channel join and ally with Hololive to blueballed him like that?
count the heads?
It'll be funny if it can't beat mel's numbers
>>12799631How dare you screenshot?! Did you not read the guidelines?
>>12799377>number 2>when they're competitive in terms of CCVs, subs, sponsorships and SCs even with Youtube being biased against ENOkay nijinigger
>>12799656GUARDS
>>12799642holy shit Niji honorary Holo, it all makes sense now.
>>12799656kek
>>12799553Money talks, whether you like it or not. If Sony see potential in you bring the brand up to a global level, you bet your ass Sony is going to bring the big bucks. Sony can give Mori all the resources she needs and even high profile singers she can collab with under their brand. She can be in shows, anime and even concerts at a freaking stadium. It only takes one contract signing afterall. Ans for her Myth "friends", they are just simply colleagues of convenience.
>already overYOU MOTHERFUCKER STARTED 15 MIN LATEIT WASNT 30MIN
>>12799650kek 56k and he didn't beat pekora's korone numbers
>>12799109Nijisanji's top brass honestly seem to think they are still hottest shit around and they can afford to ignore what everybody else are doing. I honestly don't even get the point of doing this huge event just for one of their livers, no matter how big he is. Hololive only does this for Holofes, which includes their every talent, at least in Japan, which makes sense.
>>12799634Why doesn't Cover just disband INNK and transfer AZKi to Hololive officially? Could it be AZKi's deal with Cover like it gives her more freedom?
>>12799646what is that model, rigged by EN indie?
>>12799631>>12799646SIR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM
>>1279958017 minutes but it had a new 3d outfit
>>12799661Kuzuh- I mean Nijisanji channel is winning today, hold your horses.
>>12799600Suisei barely streams these days because she's so busy and she never reads SC. Even for a "payday" SC stream like her post-concert zatsu she didn't get nearly as much as Watame, who is less popular than Suisei. Hoshiyomis buy merch/member instead.>>12799638And IIRC she rarely does members-only content too. It's one of those "member to support" types of memberships.
56k will most likely win the day but it isn't the strong unbeatable number we were kind of expecting. Although Marine beating it is doubtful it is within the realm of possibility.
>>12799675>>12799580>Even the free portion is a ripoff
>>12799301Korone will only leave due to severe health problems, she enjoys Hololive and her fans too much to do it for any other reason.
>>12799631Pack people like sardines but still make them wear those stupid masks.
>>12799675>couldn't beat Mel AGAIN>couldn't beat Mr. Koro x Pegora kusoge>not even a medal
Time to go to the nijithread and search for the restream link
>>12799694out of all places, this is 4chan
>>12799631WE’VE GOT A RIGHT CLICKER HERE
>>12799631>>12799646Imagine how much of a nerd you have to be to actually go to a live vtuber concert. Nijikeks keep losing.
Why did they do it in nijisanji's channel!? So fucking dumb imo
>>12799520And her first hard incline was the period of March to May with many new people listening to both NCP and Saga Jihen and her old songs like comet and Tenkyuu. Nobody is questioning Suisei's work ethic, just saying that those two songs being released in 2 months contributed a lot to her success.
>>12799631>>12799646I've already contacted AnyColor about your crime.
>>12799767the cope is something about trickle down to the lower talents or some shit.
>>12799675They actually only show 20 mins. I don't remember if Suisei's was the same too, but I know Niji-concerts always are.They cut it at 17 mins this time tho. No VOD too ofc.
>>12799634And way before Next Color Planet and the memes
>>12799600Context matters a lot for SC differences.Suisei tells her fans not to SC her but buy her merch or tickets. Mori cried and sucked off akasupas from the start which led to a culture of akasupa wars between her fans. I remember when she would stop in the middle of collabs to thank akasupas, its how she got nicknamed Money Mori in hlgg.
>>12799780Gen three wasn’t as big as they are now but they were plenty popular. Having an entire gen backing her up as well as a great MV helped boost SJ quite a bit I imagine
>>12799673Mori does really niche weeb rap, and always has, she's not going to suddenly become a popular mainstream rapper. You can count the number of white female rappers that are popular on one hand. And they all act black, not superficially/ironically like Mori but dressing like hoes, twerking in videos ect.
>>12799765I unironically will only go to Japan if it's for a hololive concert.
>>12799793K-king-sama..?!
>>12799813And yet she's still not anywhere near as mercenary as the SC beggars in JP like Rushia and Lamy
>>12799631I'm reporting you to Nijisanji police for your illegal activity.
>>12799673Anon, I don't think Sony will see investing in Mori or Suisei as a good business deal, when they can literally own any noview talent out there.
There is nothing announced on the Holo side today that should beat 56k. And no, not even Marine's announcement should since it will most likely just be a shill announcement. But again, if niji couldn't in with a kuzuha concert when would they win? The only thing left to them would be 3d reveals and Baseball.
>>12799826False flagger
>>12799822>white female rappersI literally can’t think of any off the top of my head. But I agree Mori will always be niche but she dominates that niche and it’s probably already made her a millionaire or close to it. I have to believe Myth put Cover over a barrel on contract renegotiations
>>12799765Exactly,we holochads always leave the holoconcert empty and dead silence.Nijikeks BTFO
>can't even beat mel
>>12799822End of a Life is probably her most normie friendly song.
>>12799727Obviously, but the severe health problems are the thing that's the major concern. About 1/4th of the girls have some kind of chronic health problem that could effect their ability to stream and they can usually manage it but that's always lurking in the background.
>>12799646AIIIIIEEEE... why do you screenshot it you criminal scum?
>>12799859It wasn't a niji vs holo thing, it's just the only other thing about Japan I really like is the girls and that's a terrible reason to visit a country.
>>12799872>not counting the thousands of people at the concert LIVE who aren't contributing to stream views
>>12799896>thousandskek
>>12799631last warning, you better delete this
>>12799896>thousands of peopleThat venue seem to house a few hundred people at most.
>>12799673>Ans for her Myth "friends", they are just simply colleagues of convenience.And this will automatically crush Mori. If the holoaudience feel betrayed, and worse, if an actual holo expresses a sense of betrayal by Mori, the entire holoaudience will become Mori antis. Brapbeats will become the next artiacucks. Sony better have an audience waiting outside the holobubble because they won't transfer
>>12799872>Retards comparing old numbers with new numbers knowing Kuzushitposter is going to bring up Kuzuha's Among Us or Apex tournament numbers> thread devolves into a shitty timeloop that ends with Koshien 2021 and Coco's graduation numbers being thrown around
>>12799896>thousandstry hundreds
>>12799872>can't even beat mel's guestsDo I have to do it every time?
Wow they really said 3 songs is all you get for free. I was expecting more
Gura needs to put up a frame for “Surprise off collab! I make out with Ame for 30 minutes, unarchived” to maintain the Holo win streak.
The cope... ah... I can smell itreclining
>>12799896>Capacity 2,709
>>12799940Better pay AnyColor to watch the SOLO LIVE of a singer who can't sing........SOLO LIVE for a shitty singer. What a terrible idea, lol. You can't even fish for screenshots on twitter.
>>12799870Myth probably signed their extensions around June, Mori did her collab with MilkyQueen in August, and she's doing collabs with indies (and Milky again) now, so that was probably one of her stipulations.
>>12799837oh yeah those girls, especially Rushia, are professional succubi. hlg would often jokingly warn anons to hide their wallets/ sign out of youtube when watching Rushia because she's that dangerous.
>>12799947PekoMiko reunion collab with live 3D sex!!!
>>12799918>>12799930It's the Zepp Haneda in Tokyo, there are 2473 general seats and 1102 vip seats
>>12799926I love that Coco graduation is like Chamberlains 100 pt game. Just by existing it puts a cap on all ccv nunberfagging. One last gift from the Reddit dragon
when will Niji learn that screenshots are basically free advertisements?
>>12799940suisei only had three too iirc?
>>12799673Sony could do all that for Luna, and we’ve seen what they actually did
>>12799968Why does it matter if he can't sing? It's prerecorded so expect good performance nonetheless even if heavily autotuned.
>>12799872Did you count a live audience and NND audience? >>12799918国内各地、及び海外にも展開するZeppの中でも最大の2925名を収容できるライブホールです。 2020年7月にオープン
>>12800002it was requested by kuzuha apparently, the other lives allowed screenshots
>>12800002they'll realize this 6 months later and then start paying people to screenshot their concerts.
>>12800003yep, watame as well I think
>>12799993And you really think a freaking vtuber concert filled all of those seats? You are insane. They herded everybody to the center area and the rest of it is probably sectioned off with black tarp so the arena looks a lot more full than it actually is.
>>12800002Probably the same time Nip publishers realize allowing vtubers to stream makes no difference because thousands of people on a Twitch do it anyway and don’t give a shit
>>12799920If they give her a good send-off like Coco got and all the other Myth girls express their happiness that Mori is getting to pursue her dreams I think most of her fanbase would transfer over. If she just randomly nope'd out and signed up with some company as her roommate the next week people would be very unhappy.
>>12799993Nope, the full capacity is 2,925.https://10fmusic.net/zepphaneda-capacity/
>>12800002They already understand it https://twitter.com/hashtag/NIJIROCK_NB?src=hashtag_click
>>12800030perfect, one more added to the list. nijisanji has so much creative freedom
>>12799631DELETE THIS
>>12800002Every screenshot is a potential ticket buyer, your gaijin brain is too small to comprehend this fact.
>>12800002nijisanji's recent concert are all allowed screenshot for the entire event. Except this one and this one only
>>12800084I doubt this is true. Not allowing screenshots is classic Nijisanji behavior.
>>12800048This place would become a nuclear wasteland for months if Mori left and the other girls were unhappy/betrayed by it. But that would never happen. She could just sign under a different/old/real identity while still keeping her HL account active. Other Holos are quite active under alt personas no reason she can’t too
>>12800002Like >>12800024 said, it was requested by the king himself.
>>12800038He has a big audience, almost all of them live in Japan, so getting a few thousands of them to go to Tokyo isn't that unbelievable.
>>12800099oh i see you are an EOP SEA nigger faggot who likes to suck cock
>>12800110Is Kuzeha… kind of dumb? Like real dumb not kayfabe dumb?
>>12799993>1102 vip seatsthat doesn't feel very VIP when it's a third of the total seating capacity
>>12800133Maybe it's just a fancy way of saying the seats close to the front, instead of like an actual VIP suite.
>free portion under performs>no screenshot yab is the most talked about aspect of the showSo now that the concert is a certified flop where does Nijisanji go from here? Seems like they don't have much left.
>>12800084https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1365517405238161408
well they still have that splatoon thing
>>12800171>>12797772
>>12800124>likes to suck cock>kuzufags
>>12800188>recent concert>2020 feshow about something 2021?https://twitter.com/hashtag/NIJIROCK_NB?src=hashtag_click
>>12800129Being dumb seems to be a huge buff for vtubers in general.
in other news rushia is at 14.8k and watame at 13.5k on their jump king collabi expected rushia to be more ahead on ccv but i guess i underestimated the sheep
He literally is the most popular vtuber singer among JOPs. You are a delusional holofag if you think he can't get 3000 people to attend.
>>12800230you can't be serious with this statement
>>12800230>He literally is the most popular vtuber singer among JOPsThis is not as impressive as you think it is.
>>12800228Suffering brings views. And if sheep breaks down crying you get a double whammy.
>>12800192Kuzufags enjoy digging that kuzuboipussy, but you likes to suck Tanigou Motoaki's cock 100%
>>12800230If you are going to false flag, at least try harder.
>>12800188>2020Maybe something new? Nijisanji has many concerts, unlike hololive https://twitter.com/search?q=%23is_NIJISANJI
Anything other than Marine have a ghost of a chance? Announcements rarely bump that high but I guess we will see
>>12800305Unless there is some crazy guerilla stream I don't see anything pushing that high today. Maybe if Marine plays Koro game and the announcement is just a bad label. But even so I doubt it would push past 56k with how much it has been spammed these last couple of days.
flop like a bat
>>12800038Vtuber concerts are always sold out no matter what venue, whether they're Niji, Holo, 774, even fucking well off indie lives sell out from what I've seen
>>12797772>Massive Kuzuha solo live>166 posts>30 IPsReally goes to show just how insignificant Nijisanji is on this board.
>>12800228the two stream feels like you're watching the paralympics.
>>12800305unless theres some random guerilla totsu/collab doesnt seem like it
>>12800368MbMMogged by Migo
>>12800219>>12800296Are you blind? It's from this February. And it's the only concert this year other than Kuzuha's that banned sreenshots.
>>12800171Underperforms? He got to show his new 3D outfit, I'm sure his fans are more than happy.
>>12800228And they're ending in 2 hours (before pekora so they'll increase unless Kanata's Evil God Korone will suck up viewers)
Weak twitter hashtag game
>>12800368Did they go for 17 minutes too?
>>12799301Shion get pinky promise from Gura that they will have sweaty cunny sex when Shark finally gets to JapanYou heard it from here first
>>12800384You are not lying kek. Whoever gets to the sewer might win the whole thing
>>12800439Everything about this show is a massive flop. Underperformance everywhere. That seems to be the story of Nijisanji in 2021 though.
>>12800428In this thread there will be no talk about how happy fans are, the only allowed discussion is the cold hard numbers.
>>12800462isn't Gura actually a lot older than Shion since Shion is the youngest one being 19?
>>12800455NIJICOEP
>>12800428This is the numbers threadit underperformed because people expected 80k ccv.We don't count happiness>>12800382In 4ch, streamers like him and pekora are only appreciated on their numbers.
I’ll be sincere: this is in dangerous icy “slippage” territory
Is the numberfag thread always this bitterly angry when it comes to Niji events or something? I'm a Holofag but calm the fuck down with the tribalfagging
>>12800531no fair anon I also appreciate Pekora's ass and her number.
>>12800382>Really goes to show just how insignificant Nijisanji is on this board.Too busy gatekeeping shit because scared their little circlejerk ruined by the newcomer while not watching any of the streams. Yeah fuck i'm still mad about /jp/ nijinigger
>>12800538Very dangerous, like, its a really good number, but its not super safe. Totally beatable.
>>12800550Yes. this thread is for holobronies, any nijisanji especially kuzuha gets all the hate here.
Tribal shitposting aside, how is kuzuha sololive compared to hololive sololive? Is it really flopped? I can't remember watame and suisei number. Did they get better number(both YouTube and Twitter)?
>>12800550It's the usual one kuzuschizo and everyone taking the bait enjoy your stay
>>12800550Calm your tits, anon. As a nijinigger, I know these are all just fun and games.
>>12800538There's nothing special going on today tho, i don't see anyone else getting 56K.
>>12800526Ah yes the part that Holo events almost never even do.
>>12800553Anon this thread is about numbers, not your petty little grudge
>>12800538after trying so hard and getting denied over and over again, it's gonna be funny if this was the one that takes it and it is not even gonna credited toward him KEK
>>12800550It's the same schizo baiting for yous, just using the event instead of the usual
>>12800590SInce it's a birthday stream, you can probably compare it to Mel's stream, but some people will whine and complain about muh guest buff.
>>1280045517minutes? Ikioi stated the stream was on for 30mins it just didn't start 6pm jst exactly>>12800550They won't be this bitter if Nijinigs don't start shit whenever Holos wins.
>>12800550Of course. They're only supportive when it comes to holo events.
>>12800376What are some indies who had a concert at the real venue?
>>12800625No one's stopping you from comparing. Also, compare mel and kuzuha's daily stream view while you're at it.
>>12800553nobody cares about what you think, and please stay in your holoshithole
Why is the sub growth for nijisanji so weak?I just ran some numbers.Elira: 400 subs/dayPomu: 333 subs/dayFinana: 500 subs/daySelen: 533 subs/dayRosemi: 366 subs/dayMeanwhile, on the hololive sideKiara: 1000 subs/dayFauna: 1700 subs/dayLamy: 633 subs/dayBasically, hololive is getting way more subs/dayHow this was done:https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC4WvIIAo89_AzGUh1AZ6Dkg/subscribersGo to their playboard page, the subscribers tab, then take an average of the "new subscribers" column, replacing the - symbol with a 0This plays into a theory of mine, that most accounts are active for a short time, and then go dead. Either people keep making new accounts, or new people are transitioning into watching, growing bored and moving on. But basically, your sub-growth is proportional to your live viewership. However your live viewership is not proportional to your total subs.
>>12800640Natori Sana? HimeHina?
>>12800626Don't care about who started whom, everyone should ignore (You)s bait and just fight the tribal shitpost wars elsewhere in bait threads, but I guess it's a bit harder in this thread than outside.
>>12800626yes, indeed. it's always the nijiniggers who's starting shit and not anyone else. especially not holobros. nope.
>>12800590AVG/PEAKSuisei24,324 / 42,452Watame15,314 / 28,891
>>12799882Kanatan ...
>>12800590Suisei 42k Watame 28k for free part
Does Nijisanji just have more money to throw around thanks to rich investors compared to Cover? I've been reading these threads for a while and I've never seen any compelling argument to show that they have bigger audience than Hololive, even in Japan.
Thread is shit before the day is even over. Can't imagine how unusable the next threads will be if Kuzuha somehow loses to Marine announcement.
>>12800590It's not a flop but it didn't just lived up with the expectations.Kuzuha is the top-tier streamer of Nijis so they expected him to get 80k or 100k.>>12800550>>12800585>>12800628You all sound like bullied? Why don't you look at how shitty the past threads just because Holos wins. They even pit Vshojo and Hololive itself against Hololive.
>>12800695>somehow What do you mean? If he loses it's because more people showed up for Marine's announcement. There is no black magic involved here.
>>12800692>never seen any compelling argument to show that they have a bigger audience than Hololive, even in JapanThey don't. "Nijisanji is bigger in Japan" is one of the oldest copes from Nijikeks. Hololive surpassed them long ago even in Japan.
>>12800692you are such a newfag even for number thread, go do your reps.Nijisanji has bigger audience in Japan ALL ALONG
>>12793597they might be part of the same dance a few times (can the vshojo members dance?), but micomet is its own duo and won't interract with them on camera, and probably not off due to language barrier.
>>12800590Not a total flop but its a his birthday + new 3d + concert so numberfag expect better numbers.Also fuck niji for doing it in their channel.
>>12800732HoloEOP coping hard again. The pathetic holoconcert and goods says other wise
>>12800698>They even pit Vshojo and Hololive itself against Hololive.And it's always nijiniggers fault. All blame always goes to them as if vshojo schizo and false flaggers are nonexistent.
Any holoJP that doesn't stream during the concert will automatically be considered a Kuzuha fangirl
>>12800721Just me maybe, I don't think Marine can beat Kuzuha, but I could be wrong.>12800740>all long
>>12800698So you're making this thread worse instead by countering tribal baits with your tribal baits? Learn to ignore shitposts for fuck's sake. And ignore people who reply to shitposts too for that matter.Go shit on Niji or even that Kuzuha thread, I don't care. Just get it fuck out of here.
>>12800763Nijisanji gets embarrassed every single day in numbers. Accept the reality Nijikek. 2nd place isn't all bad.
>>12800764They just moved from blaming on all chinks back to blaming it all on niji(chinks)
>>12800740>Nijisanji has bigger audience in Japan ALL ALONGChill out anon, your desperation is leaking through.
>SEA primetime gets near>thread gets shittierLike clockwork
>>12800550nijiniggers can't numberfag. All they need to do is bring up a comparable free holo concert and claim hololive is reclining>pic related
>>12800721Probably impossible but then again I've seen dumber victories out of nowhere(i.e. Pekora stealing Aqua;s 3d stream).
The least you could do is to shitpost with numbers
Fan Fun Island (3rd Gen live) should also get a free stream on youtube, right? I wonder on whose channel it's going to be on. It should be either on Pekora's on HoloOfficial
>>12800763You don't know how well Hololive or Nijisanji goods are selling though. This is the most retarded claim you can make.
>>12800506Gura is 23, same with Mumei. Except Ame and Bae's age is still a mystery, Gura and Mumei are currently the youngest in EN
>>12800675Yeah, thought about Natori Sana too, her live event was shown in some movie theaters but I guess that counts. And also I forgot about HIMEHINA, though I'm not sure if they're really indies.
>>12800801>nijiniggers can't numberfagkek, Holoblokes are superior even in self defeating banter. That's why Hololive keeps winning
>>12800801Less viewers watching the free portion just means that more people actually payed for a ticket.
Kuzuna lost and now faggots started writing poems. Go watch the concert retards, continue fangirling
>>12800774Anon, we're the containtment thread for a reason.
>>12800844C O P E
>>12800815Most certainly holo main
>>12800692They were invested by big corpos in 2020. All their greedy marketic tactics is them trying to appease their Sony M overlords after getting beaten black and blue by their competitor. Imagine also losing local sponsorships that they had to rely on foreign chinese games as a sponsorship. They're going all in on 3D debuts, group dynamics using AR and concerts to earn money now that they can't even compete against Holos VODs/SC revenue. Sony M and some other chink bank realized their failures in investing on them.
>>12800815it should be on holo official since 1st gen's was on holo official as wellthat one got 65878 btw
>>12800845>he thinks people here watch any vtuber concerts period>Kuzuha's concert of all things
>>12800869True >>12799896
>>12800880Cover was invested by big corpos in 2017.
>>12800640Off the top of my head, Natori Sana, Ponpoko and Peanuts, Tenkai Tsukasa, HimeHina, YuNi
>>12800788accept the fact you westerner knows hololive because of Chink clipper, and there is a large chance you are a sea monkey so i wouldn't even surprise.
>>12800844>Less viewers watching the free portion just means that more people actually payed for a ticket.kek, I can only imagine the size of the stadiums the two views must get them. It would take Madison Square Garden to hold all the people *not* watching them
>>12800887I've actually paid for every Hololive concert since HoloFes 2. On the other hand I wouldn't watch Kuzushit's concert even if you paid me money to watch it.
>>12800880>They're going all in on 3D debuts, group dynamics using AR and concerts to earn money now that they can't even compete against Holos VODs/SC revenueThanks, haven't laughed like this in a while.
>>12800828Ame is 2 years older
>>12800917>because of Chink clipperkek, I am thinking hard trying to think about how can possibly be construed as a bad thing.I'm drawing a blank. T-Thanks chink clippers?
>>12800917Anon. There's a bid divide of EOPs for Holo. It's pretty much Before Myth and After Myth
>>12800835>>12800844>Suisei 42K>Kuzuha 55kWhat these numbers prove is that there are more more broke kuzufags than hornyomis. SEAniggers indeed
>>12800898>big corposDefine "big". Sony M invested $17M into Anykara, some chink bank iirc invested 700M yen and some others too. Corpos that invested in Cover is nowhere that high profile.
>>12800961C O P E
>>12800923I sure as hell hoped tribalniggers in this thread are just dramafags playing both sides for shitpost but sure.
>>12800961Makes sense, SPWN chat was going crazy all throughout, 20k paid access
>>12800954There have been even JOPs who discovered Hololive through HoloEN, not to mention more Koreans are watching them than their own korean chuubas. Their debut was a bigger event that it seems.
>>12800984No, I actually hate Nijisanji. Like an actual primal hatred. I can't even look at a Nijisanji image without getting a little bit angry.
>>12800961Yeah but Kuzuha also has a live audience too. I don't know how many but I was seeing some pictures
>>12800968>Sony M invested $17M into AnykaraWhich is pocket change, since their operating income is over $1.8 billion. Anykara is fucking tiny, vtubers in general are niche as fuck.
>>12801058Always assume vtuber concerts sell out. That's the rule. Kuzuha has enough weight on his own to get a full capacity especially on his birthday. The same goes for Watame and Suisei.
>>12800923show your niconico tickets history then ,I'm waiting
>>12800828I wonder if Shion knows Gura's actual age.
Here are some numbers to try to bring the thread back to the subject matter>On July 15, 2020, Fubuki was the first Hololive member to hit 700k subs and catching up with "the four heavenly kings" by surpassing Siro Today IRyS just hit 700k subs. With the exception of the just debuted Council, the only Holo members not to have hit it yet are: Mel, Aki, Risu, AZKi, Reine, Iofi and Anya
>>12801058STOP RIGHT THERE, YOU CRIMINAL SCUM!>you wouldn't download that screenshot!
>>12800774Are you a newfag? You can be this angry if tribalfags and baits happens in split threads. But here? lol you'll get used to it in no time
>>12801100retarded seanigger doesn't know where tickets are sold for holo
>NOT TODAY SHINIGAMI
>>12801109Ok irystrocrat, her mv still not getting 1m tho, go stream some more
>>12801100>Hololive concerts>niconicoKEK
>>12801131oh is it not allowed? someone posted it in the other thread, I had no idea
>>12801154One final song buff with the Myth member at the end of November should do it
>>12801100>niconico tickets historykek plain retardation
Stacked frame so far, Kanata not doing 20k with that game tho. Bad choice of slot for her, she can't possibly compete with Rushia on Rushia-time, on a collab where both POVs are holding 14k easily
>>12801210Kanata's got tech issues. She's fucked and ended the stream before even playing the game, so it'll be another day.
Welp Kuzuha isn't leaving any time soon.
>>12801100Is that really that unbelievable of a statement? There haven't been that many. Bloom, Gen 1, Watame, Suisei? Am I missing any?
>>12801210She didn't even play the game. Her PC was acting up, it turned in to a zatsudan and now she just finished the stream. She will play it another day.
Oh, well Botan is streaming at the same time as Marine, so clearly whatever it is isn't the worst thing in the world (based lalion, realizing no one streams over super-important bad annoucements)
>>12801088>Pocket changeFor Sony, it is. But Anykara still needs to fulfill whatever promise they did for Sony M, else their rep as a company would fall. Other investors aren't likely to throw money at them anymore if they fail. They've reinvested a lot of money in the company for the past year, and still can't pull ahead against their main competitor. Maintenance, employee salaries and office bills doesn't pay on their own. They need their livers to pull ahead.
>>12801185Sadly true. As much as I respect that Mori has put more effort into her streaming lately there is no doubt that the majority of her subs comes from songs. And songs will always be a passive boost to subs.
>>12801184Ignorance of the law is no excuse, you have 15 second to comply!
>>12801144>>12801166>>12801186What's the deal, don't tell me holoniggers don't know where to watch hololive online concert?What does ニコニコ公式有料生放送 mean?https://secure.live.nicovideo.jp/event/0217_hololivehttps://secure.live.nicovideo.jp/event/hololive_2nd_feshttps://secure.live.nicovideo.jp/event/FanFunIsland_211125what are these links? Oh nonononono
>>12800948Huh, I thought we only have her birthday but no clue for which year.>>12801101I believe they know more than us do lol.
>>12801058>※本配信の切り抜きやスクリーンショットの撮影はご遠慮ください。※Please refrain from taking screenshots and/or clips of this stream.
>>12801334because it looks like shit..
>>12800625> some people will whine and complain about muh guest buff.> Implying Mel would get anywhere close to 58k in 30 minutes for a sololive This might be the stupidest thing in this entire thread. You guys know Suisei "only" got 42k for doing the same thing right?
>>12801318Are you dumb? The majority of Hololive fans watch on SPWN. I don't even know why they offer the niconico version to be honest. SPWN is better in every single way.
>>12801334>>12801313Make me
>>12801264Yes, for someone on this board.Show your tickets history. And if you reply something such as : I don't have to....Then you simply just don't have any
>>12801364AAAAH KING DON'T KNEEL
>>12801364>>12801382>AAAAH KING DON'T KNEELSCREENSHOT CAPTURED!>kneeposters rejoiced that day!
>>12801295Sony's investment probably bought them free access to tech that the didn't have. Riku will be on a constant leash to fulfil that obligation.
>>12801318>of course Suisei and Watame's were skippeddo YOU watch any concerts?
>>12801364His clothes looks like it's missing textures.
>>12800663>633 subs per dayAnd they said gen 5 wasn't a failure
I like that Nijisan is likely to win today. Nothing like a true underdog story!
>>12801328I remember seeing it back same age as mori
>>12801382>>12801396>>12801416>anons doesn't realize it's a twitch restreamIt's double the illegal
>12801418Post selejo subs gain gen5 schizo
>>12801427too early to celebrate
>>12801416>like every other niji models
>>12801416>missing texturesyea
>>12801427Underdog? Lol Hololive was the Underdog before, they just surpassed NijisanjiIt's better to call it revenge or comeback
>>12801505kek, looks like a chink made doll. Oh wait-
SPWN nigger where is your tickets?
>>12801510They weren't though.
>bringing up other companies every time gen 5 gets exposed for being a weak gen by holo standardsDesperation.
>>12801505That throws a bloke back>bilibili logoIsn't this at very least 18 months old?
>>12801505>needing to go back that far in time for a screenshot of comparable shitNijikeks just keep losing
>>12801505thank fucking god holo left chinkland
>>12801505>Bili BiliAtleast post the 2021 3D Models lmao I don't watch Niji so i can't compare but i can atleast say Holo3D did improveBut did Suisei really had a model like that before? It looks terrifying lmao
>gen5schizo in the houseImagine seething about *this*
Proceed with caution when using a rare kuzuha kneel pic. In NFT terms, I own this screenshot. So, I'll sell it for $10 because I want to drink some boba coffee atm.
>>12801569This should be the new kneeler pick. King admitting he's a kneeler.
>>12801569>trying to get cash from a stolen picAre you a chink?
>>12801536https://startup-db.com/companies/wKOvZYRUeOeJejl9https://startup-db.com/companies/dnPXGnyUm7oJKlBN
>>12801554he doesn't know about Suisei revolver ocelot. someone please post it
>>12801569can't wait to use this for the next kneeling session.
>>12801530
Easy gold medal
>>12801569Looks like he's sitting on the stairs
>>12801569>※本配信の切り抜きやスクリーンショットの撮影はご遠慮ください。※Please refrain from taking screenshots and/or clips of this stream.
>>12801530where is YOUR tickets? freeloaderkun
>>12801614>every Hololive concert since HoloFes 2OH NO NO NO NO
>>12801264Those VR concerts that happen every few months.
>>12801536They are now.
This is pretty nice to see, their numbers are pretty much on par with each other
>>12801691its a good mutual buff content.
>>12801536-> >>12800968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tOQLL93gsSo nobody talked about this today?
>>12801736We did earlier in the thread
>>12801736People did, before Kuzuha's concert started.
When I see screenshots of Nijisanji concerts, I realize how bad Hololive concerts are.
>>12801736Scroll up the thread.
>>12800663Well if you're talking about NijiEN, they're much smaller than HoloEN in general. Hell even HoloJP doesn't stack up well against HoloEN.NijiJP subs are low because JOPs don't sub, like, or engage on youtube. They do it on twitter instead for whatever reason.Kuzuha gets top tier HoloJP CCV numbers, but he only passed Watame and Kanata very recently. I think Nimu's youtube channel zoomed past him.Fuwa's median nowadays is 10k, which is pretty good even for HoloJP standards, but he only has 449k subs. He also only has 448k twitter followers, but if you look at his page, his tweets get the same likes and engagement as Pekora's tweets (despite her having 600k more followers). He gets 10-20k likes on his random tweets, whereas Pekora gets around 9k.https://twitter.com/Fuwa_Minatohttps://twitter.com/usadapekoraJust compare the pinned tweets for both pages, his Sil Vous President cover tweet has 52k likes, whereas Pekora's cover tweet has 21k. Both videos have near identical VOD views and likes, despite Pekora's being release 20 days later, which implies stronger growth.How does it make sense that Pekora has more than double his followers count, but somehow gets 2x less engagement on twitter? Yet the actual video performs the same?idk, JOPs are weird.Before you respond, yes, I know about the Nijisanji topic and if they were powerful enough to make up for such a follower count difference, then idk what Cover is doing holding back on doing the same.
>when I seepoorfags
>>12800663Hololive is more popular.
>12801766Have you ever watched a concert of Hololive before?
>>12801657i was waiting for you to jump out, now where is YOUR tickets nigger?
>>12801736No comment from David Kim im disappointed
>>12801814stop giving money to the black company
>>12801824Kek the youtube essay schizo doesn't do them for originals, only covers.
Damn we flexing tickets now??Sad i'm just a poorfag who can only afford memberships
>>12801852Why only covers? Because some of the covers in the list have a niji as duet partner?
>>12801617Idk, Pekora and Marine could easily top those numbers if they really wanted to.
>>12801814wtf is that shit quality, stop stealing images from google
>>12801901Trying too hard. Who knows what's inside the heads of schizos.
>>12801852Contrail....
>>12801295so that's why they are spamming tournaments...
>>12801910Would require something pretty buff to clear 56k imo, and given that Botan is streaming alongside Marine, dramafags probs not gonna flock as hard to her announcement. I wouldn't call it, but it's require something out of left field to beat 56k.
>>12801814Stolen ss ofc, anons said that there is no nijifans in /#/.
>>12801910It's pretty annoying when newfags act like 55k streams are a common occurrence.Pekora and Marine are number gods but 55k is not easy for them wtf
>>12800934the chuubas you watch must be shit then
Why are you faggots this mad over screenshots when all concerts are shared here. You do know that restreams aren't allowed either, right?Or is it just because it's Kuzuha?Or do we have unironic Redditors here??
>>12801930nigger i have to ctrl+mouse wheel my page to that small to hold all my purchase history in one page
>>12801956Marine playing Korone's game I think could do it.>>12801966Pekora had 58k playing Korone's game while Miko was also streaming it.
kson disqualifying herself from today's ranking (both daily top and Superchat) by doing her 1M marathon with a facecam, in cosplay
>>12801975It's shitposting, I refuse to believe someone is actually mad for screenshots.
>>12801956Pekora will also have overlap from the Splatoon Collab. So unless she's doing something magical I can't see in any chance in either Pekora or Marine beating Nijisan today.
>>12801991Why are you talking about a non-vtuber here?
>>12801975I can't tell if this is some 5head retarded shitpost that's pretending to be baffled at people pretending to be mad or if it's just genuine retardation.I've seen some really stupid shit on this board.
>>12801975You wouldn't download a vtuber.
>>12801991Fucking meat sack streamer, out!
>>12802016Did you miss earlier when literal facebook users were posting? This really is the containment thread.
>>12801975The rules are clear Nijikek or do you not care about what your "king" wants?>※本配信の切り抜きやスクリーンショットの撮影はご遠慮ください。※Please refrain from taking screenshots and/or clips of this stream.
>>12801947also the reason why sony m themselves decided to do their own vtuber group. They can use niji's tech and also, get their livers to shill for them.
>>12802066>Niji's techIts Sony's tech to begin with idiot
>>12802035Where were you when Watame and Suisei's lives were illegally restreamed?What about the hundreds upon hundreds of membership uploads and albums ripped for 4chan?
I paid for, recorded, and uploaded holofes. Why are people so anal about these? Some indonesian shits can't afford the concert, why not let them watch it as well. Fans that can afford it will pay for it anyways.
>>12801991ksonfags on suicide watch
>>12802097anon pls calm down he is shitposting.
dunno if it's been posted before, but i found a niji music ranking channel that's quite popular judging from the views it gothttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBXnBOvSLzjPUtwZBzs6PlQ/featured
>>12802031The one that was saying how they want to quit watching vtubers because it's apparently dead now in NA and fan discords were closing?Another post where I can't tell if the details are signs of genuinely retarded autism or an attempt to become thread famous like Slow-and-steady anon and Nijiculture anon.
>>12802066makes sense
>trolls baiting trolls baiting trolls
Why does Pekora never say what she'll be streaming until there's like 30 minutes left until the stream? It seems like that would harm her numbers.
>>128019981. Miko not streaming today2. Pekora plays minecraft3. Miko login4. ???5. Profit
>>12802113Oh, they're back from break then.Yea, it's been. Posted before but some Anon said the uploader was on break so I hadn't thought to check them again.
>>12802168Not really, since the large majority of Nousagi watch her regardless of what she streams.
>>12802168My personal theory is that she pocket picks her stream content depending on which stream overlaps or how the numbers are going so far. So she can save her good content for better days.
>>12802113>quite popularThose views are a drop in the bucket compared to what the Hololive ranking channel gets. Nijikeks lose again.
>>12802198Pekora is doing Mariokart "challenge" so no pekomiko today.
>>12802168Because sometimes even she isn't 100% sure what she'll be streaming. Also >>12802211If it's something novel more people will tune in but it takes something REALLY debuff to force her off her 20k.
>>12802113>dunno if it's been posted beforeIt has but nobody cares because its Nijishitty
>>12802237RIP Peko CCV Median and Average
>>12802237Mario Kart challenge is the perfect set up for suffer kino which always rockets Pekora's viewership. Curious how it will do.
>>12802237>>12802214See what I mean, she knows that the Splatoon overlap will be bad for her numbers so she pocket picks mario kart. Kind of like yesterday's totsu.
>>12802269Huh? Mario kart usually have good numbers though. Are you new to peko mariokart challenge?
>>12802198>Miko not streamingDammit you dumb baby!! How are you going to end Pekora's "hours watched" streak if you don't stream. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>12802168the jps arent like ens where they give a schedule every week of what theyre gonna stream, she likely just chooses whatever she feels like playing by the time she gets home
>>12801505>bilibili
>>12802280It'll immediately end if she gets 8th place or lowerShe won't even have time to gather numbers because Nousagis loves to bully her
>>12802292Totsu? Watch the stream its not totsu its a clubhouse challenge stream.
>>12802299Don't worry, Pekora's stream will be over in literally 15 minutes today.
>>12802168Have you ever watched any JP chuuba ever
>>12802325yeah my bad it was a yahtzee stream.
>>12802291It depends on how well she does in the challenge. She might just fail on the first race and end the stream.
>>12802299it's literally impossible anon, peko streams 5-7 hours every weekend for 20k nousagis
>>12801814ants, that's definitely not yours
>>12802327>>12802323I love how people can already tell Peko is gonna lose hard >>12802291Her Median is currently 35k and it'll be hard to get that number on a stream that might end in less than 30mins
>>12802292I disagree there. I doubt the splatoon collab will pull viewers from Pekora regardless what she streams. She will however most likely not pull viewers from it either unless she does something rare/first/unique kind of thing, which she isn't. She'll do something in the range for 25-30k assuming she doesn't fail the challenge to early.
>>12797772Going through this thread makes me realize that Nijisanji fans are seriously mentally ill. Actual insane people in that thread.
Does graph/chart anon include chuubas who had only streamed 4times on the month?
>>12802394One stream below 35k wont change her median that much..>Pekora's stream will be over in literally 15 minutes today.She might not reach this numbers but she'll be fine numberwise
>>12802426>46 ips>268 posts
>>12802446Isn't the 26k one the one with burned out display. That was physically painful to watch.
>>12802426did something happened?
>>12802467Its not that stream.
>>12802113https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1kpSS99HwU>Latest video>Only two cleared the 100k mark besides Kuzuha's Vampire
>>12802426It also makes you realize that people dismissing all shitposting here as just trolls who don't actually watch niji/kuzuha are wrong. They're legit schizos who believe in the shit they say.
>>12802426Most split threads are like that tho.>>12802446It's funny how Peko can't get past 30mins
>>12802498Christ. People were saying Holo covers had declined, but it looks like EVERYTHING dropped in views these past few weeks.
>>12802473Anon is upset that people posted more than once in the thread, meanwhile this thread has an almost similar ratio.
Kuzuha got signed by a major label and he's releasing his mini album next year. It'd be interesting to see how well it does.
Mio catching the Korone ILLEGAL VIEW STARGATE
>>12802522No, its the tone of the thread. Just read the posts. That is Kpop stan level mental illness.
>>12802516Yep, Nousagi love to bully.l Pekora.Kromies also love to bully Kronii, watching her fall guys memebers stream today was...it was something alright.
>>12802505>shitposters always post misinfo on him>Kuzuhafag who posts in here is just 1 personYeah.>>12802549t. never attended a single concert thread for literally any vtuber concert.
>>12802547too bad kanata fucked her pc,Mio wouldve broken an easy 30k.
>>12802525>by a major labelSME?
>>12802525Considering he is a shitty singer it probably won't do too well.
>>12802525Universal Music Group's Virgin Music LabalWhich is funny because Vampires like virgins Kek
>>12802549I mean his fans are mostly sea trannies after all, don't know what were you expecting
how's this dog so powerful? first she brings EOPs(along with Fubuki), now she's elevating everyone that plays her game.
>>12802562No Hololive concert thread has ever been that bad.
>>12802586The power of MEMES. Memes are the DNA of the soul, it's a magic too powerful for normal mortals to comprehend.
>>12802561Her Falls Guys stream was great, i even bought the game just to play with her lmaoA stream like that can easily get her to 15k ccv
>>12802516It's rare but she can. I just post those to show that pekora can do a restream if she lose fast.
>>12802592What exactly is bad about it? Crying? You missed all the anons crying for Suisei?
>>12802622Read the thread and you will see. Literal stalker tier obsession. Considering the reputation that Nijisanji fans have though and their well documented awful behavior I shouldn't be that surprised.
>>12802622None. crying != to cumming
>>12802622False flaggerHoloCHADS would never cry
Here is a good comparison of the difference between singers and VSingers with regards to live streaming audienceReol>1.42M subs>709,593,807 VOD viewsLive streaming to 2.5k people.
>>12802568>Mio wouldve broken an easy 30k.It's not impossible yet
>>12802693I think Ado can pull high numbers when she does streams, but they aren't often and they're never archived. High being 5 digit iirc, like 12k+.
>>12802713She got the funny ending first, she could've done it if she didn't break the order.
>>12802713She finished the first ending, so it's gonna have to be off of the 2nd ending she gets 30k.
>>12802714Ado pulls huge numbers on her streams when they're before song releases. I vaguely remember the stream she had before Odo's release having over 40k viewers.
>more male costumesMansanji I kneel.
>>12802713Fucking hololive keep making these absurd buff, niji had to wait for koshien ffs
enter https://youtu.be/jE4rzw9fk9U
>>12802450SEA hours
>>12802650Seems pretty normal to me. It's probably just your biased mind thinking everything nijinigger is awful behaviour etc.
>>12802747wait, what happened to the announcement?
>>12802747ILLEGAL GAME FUNNELLING.
>>12802747HOLY SHIT! This has a "slippage" scent all over it
>>12802747NUMBERS
>>12802752>biased mine thinking everything Nijinigger is awful behaviorTheir behavior is a documented fact>Seems pretty normal to meThat is NOT normal. Literal obsessed schizos.
>>12802747OH NO NO NO NO... Silver King...
>>12802747TickTock
>>12802736Oh yea, I remember that one. Yea, the number I'm thinking was for her latest song that released. It was pretty good, I hope one of the Holomem does a cover of it sooner rather than later. Flare, Suisei, Towa would be the best candidates for it imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyq5-StPISU
>>12802747>>12802770it wont do as well as pekora's
>>12802770OMG the keks will be great and bountiful. Please deliver us this mogging oh great Evil God Korone. I don't ask for much but a mogging here would make for a fantastic thread.
See you next day. The thread gonna go downhill soon since marine will play korone god today.
>>12802747Wtf where did the announcement go?!RUN KING, RUN.
>>12802610Is Cover some sort of Metal Gear secret government type of deal? My favorite dumb narrative from /hlg/ is that Cover is backed by Abe to get young guys to fall in love with hags like Mio and Botan so that they will increase Japan's birthrate.
>>12802450The imbalance is obviously due to the number of screenshot posted.
>>12802747AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP ILLEGALLY FUNNELING THIS GAME>>12802808As a Nousagi I think it'll do better. Marine will get funneled by Pekora and she isn't sharing a time slot.
>>12802808this does not slip
>>12802811stay cool nijifriend
>>12802747>>12802770It's King's birthday! Give him the day, you fucking holohags!
>>12802828Cover has understood one thing very well with their scouting, and thats that those who understand meme culture and thrive in it make good vtubers, apparently. I swearz Gura, Kronii and Mumei...they're very clearly aware of the effect, and the fact that NijiEN DIDN'T throw everything that they could to secure someone like that for Lazulight doomed them.
>>12802747I'll say 60k
>>12802747This has a shot if the Splatoon tournament also ends before Marine's stream.
>>12802889Huh? Splatoon tournament is at the end of November
>>12802905I meant the 6 holo splatoon game.
>>12802886Someone who knows their memes is also mentally ill, so it fits Yagoo's house of broken dolls theme
>>12802747return buff + buff game + announcement buffalso pekora and miko probably not going to overlap her timesloteasily 60k
>>12802905There a small holo collab today Bakatare is there.
>>12802905Probably talking about Bakatare vs Apontan Splatoon. Not Niji's one.
>>12802905Anon thinks anpontan vs bakatare as splatoon tourny.
>>12802926>>12802930>>12802933Oh, I didn't see that as a tourney, just a collab.
>>12802955Yes you are right its not a tourny. Anon is just retard.
>>12802923Yea, she's planning on announcing something she's been working on for a very long time at the end of the stream, alongside other things from her tweet. >>12802922Good, mentally ill people are more entertaining anyways, just give them the support and environment to prevent them from self-destructing and you're in for a wild ride.
Alot of falseflagger for marine numbers tonight.
>>12802113>>12802498fyi, this channel ranks the songs based on daily average increaseso a song with age one day and 144k total views (rank 2 in this particular video) will rank higher than a song with age 14 days and 1 mil total views (rank 7)not a very good method imo
>>12803009it has a shot anon but kind of a long shot. Marine is free to prove me wrong, if a magic funnel happen.
Is there a site that can show every liked number of each video without examining individually?
>>12802770As much as i wanted Kuzuha to get mogged again. It will be freaking hard to get 56kIt can if:>Pekora ends a minute before Marine starts>Splatoon Collab ends before Marine starts>No major overlap
>>12803109at least explore the links up there
>>12803009she's only going to overlap with botanis not that long of a shot
>>12802592You don't go on /hlgg/ during 3D lives then, newfag.Even Holostars 3D debuts gets a fuckton of hornyposts.
>>12802650>stalkerIt's anons watching a concert. Stalker behavior would be the thread earlier today about Holostars that turned into Noel's roommate posting, or Pippa tweeting about Kiara's roommate.
>>12803117>>No major overlapAlso people forgot that Pekora only managed to get 50k+ with an additional buff from Aqua's 49k 3d stream ending.
>>12803213Well tbf Pekora is capable of pulling numbers like that.Miko pulled 42k and Okayu pulled 36k so Pekkers getting 57k is possible even without Aqua buff
>>12803213Agreed, it'll be very hard for Marine to manage to crack 56k. Still, this is why I prefer to wait for the end of the day to call ANYTHING, you never know until the day ends.
>>12802650>Read the thread and you will see.Literally a normal-ass concert thread. Can't believe you made me scroll through a 260 post thread for nothing.
>>12803258Anon is upset people care about Nijisanji instead of being bitter faggots in here.
>>12803258Welcome to /#/, we make sure to disappoint you.
>>12803244That was an amazing funnel situation. I would like to see how high it would be if they have one night with a funnel like this:Okayu > Korone > Marine > Miko > Pekora
>>12803211>>12803258That was NOT a normal concert thread. A normal concert thread would be talking about the quality of the songs or the singing or something like that. That was obsession to a degree that I am not comfortable with. No talk of the actual show, the songs, or the performance. Just pure satanic tier idol worshipping.
>>12803117It will be the waiting room of Sana Unarchived Karaoke
>>12803295kek
>>12800360are u gonna apologize later?
>>12803295Speaking of Sana's return streamCan it get past 10k?
>>12803287>Just pure satanic tier idol worshipping.Hey hey, let’s keep satan and other demonic idols out of this >dey cute!
>>12803211>>12803258I'm curious what you guys consider normal
>>12803318Not even the correct question, which should be>will she get shadowbanned right out of the gate?
>>12802747Marine horror is a huge buff and Pekora is doing an instant end stream that will probably end just in time, yeah it's all ogre
>>12803287Have you seen this thread? Or any other one? Do you really expect some deep discussion about small details? The only thing different is that you can see that many of the posters there are actually female and they post somewhat different from an average anon. But I wouldn’t say that’s that bad or much different from any other typical concert “discussion”.
>>12803337Clearly you understand the point I'm trying to make though?
>>12803281Well some of the bitter faggots tried to bait in that thread, they basically copy and pasted their posts from here, but surprisingly enough, no one bit. Pretty good restraint, kuzufags.
>>12801617this does not sliprepeat!this does not slip!
>>12803366This was bit>>12800683
>>12803315Why would I? If Marine beats 56k great job, if she doesn't Niji wins the day. I'm not a tribalfag and I like big numbers. Nothing more to it. Stop being a tribalfag in the /#/, it's time you evolve beyond that anon.
>>12803315Are you going to apologize if Marine doesn't beat 56k? What kind of dumb question is this?
>>12803420Being tribal is ingrained in our DNA and has been standard human behavior for thousands and thousands of years. By not being tribal you are the weird one with defective DNA.
>>12803417Compared to posts here that get easily 10 (You)s, Kuzuhafags didn't let shitposters derail the thread like what happened with AR stage day 1 thread.
>>12802808oh nyoooohe doesn't know
>>12803287Proof you've never stepped foot in /hlgg/ vsinger or any Holo split during a live, or a karaoke. Even this thread participates when a girl is being cute in 3D. Keep digging your gay ass grave, newfaggot.
>>12803466I still remember the Chima 3D debut. That one got absolutely infected with shit posters for some reason and most of them were bit HARD. It was an absolute disaster of a thread.
>>12803345After seeing /hlgg/ react to HoloEN's smol models during their anniversary stream, this is literally fucking nothing.Izuru's 3D debut got more gayposting that this.
>>12803529>admitting you watch HolostarsThat is a mark I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy
>>12803504/hlgg/ just spams whatever shit is hot rn, from sex to bait to boomgey, if you take them seriously you are an absolute retard
>>12803417>>12803466Mostly talking about posts bitching about his singing written by anons from this thread.Imagine the (you)s if people tried that shit in hlgg/Watame/Suisei's threads during their sololives.Actually, I was in /hlgg/ and it was pretty bad.
I would never predict that days would come when a person who doesn’t lurk /hlgg/ is considered a newfag.
>>12803559>if you take them seriously you are an absolute retard>taking anything on this containment board seriously
>/hlgg/>liking homos
>People are shitposting so hard to the point that the thread might hit 1k.
>>12803565/hlgg/ is a hugbox and Kuzuha gets shit on during days that end with Y, outside the male thread>>12803595They homopost more than /stars/ and /jp/ to the point where a Temma yumejo posted in there just to escape the other threads, not even his split could last.
>>12803595>doesn't visit /hlgg/ during Homostar 3D debuts
Hololive rules, Nijisanji drools
This thread should be changed to /gossip/
>>12803617what world do you live in anon? this is like saying the whole general loves kiara because of a few kfps supporting her
cunny bunny with 25k
>>12803361>many of the posters there are actually female>female>on 4chanFat chance. They are just gay men.
>>12803731>this is like saying the whole general loves kiaraThat's true tho?
>>12803746more like trannies
>>12803257Yeah, after October, I learnt my lesson
>>12803731So, because anons who like Holostars post in /hlgg/ alongside anons who want Holostars dead, the former doesn't exist?Object permanence reps, now.
>>12803287Yeah, I agree that Niji fans are too obsessed. For example, go to /HiRyS/! Those are the most normal people in the world.
>>12803587Buddy this entire board is created because of hlgg, if you don't lurk there you're by definition a newfag
>>12803731>this is like saying the whole general hates kiara because of a few eggs shitpost about herFTFY
>>12803778Nijitrannies
that delusional kfp in this thread...
>Pekora has to last 25 min to become the perfect view stargate to MarineHow is it looking?
>>12803792>or Lamy transformation gen>or NijiEN thread>or writefag thread (that's all Hololive)
So the Marine thing just turned out to be her playing Korone game? Kind of anticlimactic.
>>12803833
>>12803833just ended
>>12803833she threw and stream over lol.
Well Pekora is over.
>>12803833its over
>>12803792I like IRyS but I never look at the splits, what do they get up to in the IRyS one?
>>12803863KEK.She survived one match and then she got rekt.
>>12803847Announcement at the end
>31k>immediately endsPeko-tyan.....
Pekora revenge stream.
>>12803872It's turned into gosling central, or at least it feels that way at times. IRyS's honey cake energy is too strong for the poor Anons.
>>12803873O-Okawari?
>>12803902o-onegai
>newfags on this thread dont know pekora will start another stream after losing
I was right about a restream when pekkers lose fast.
Pekora farming 30k ccv streams
>>12803881>announcement at the end>all that time for viewership to build upoh no no no...
>>12803910Sometimes she does, imo she probably will this time to funnel to marine, but it's not 100%. If she had lost the first match Id agree, she would immediately start a new one.
Wait wait wait wait wait… how much was today’s live peak again?Isn’t marine playing this same game?
>Pekora ended so fast she funnels herself
Pekora is gathering viewers for Maririn
>>12803901Then you haven't seen Infinity general. When Kuzuha gets over 1000 lewd greentexts/fanfics saved about him like they do for Kronii, then I'll call Nijifags schizophrenic.
peggers, pls survive for 20 mins
>>12803958gen 3 love
>>12803872Have you ever seen the horny Irys soundpost?It's one of my favourite creations of this board.
>>12803872The IRyS split has archived gigs upon gigs of soundclips of her sounding lewd or making statements with double meanings. Its so insane its almost respectable.
>>12803969Don’t forget that Kronii/IRyS sex sound bite they made.
>>12803969>>12803990Are people really discussing what is the most schizo fanbase in this board? You guys should see /x/ and /pol/ for real schizo shit >with a growing body countEven /b/ of old had a body count>ywn stab someone to get in the good graces of your oshi Why live?
>>12804044https://vocaroo.com/1ljc8r2hSUUk
>>12804044I can never forget that. This board has funny autism at times. I pity the tribalistic fags who don't explore all generals, I get a good laugh and kneel at the creativity.
>>12804062GodIRyS has the most feminine princess voice ever and somehow its the most seductive thing I have ever heard.
well at least this is not an eyefucker stream
ILLEGAL
>>12804062I hate that this is funny as fuck but I can't share it with any of my casual Holo-enjoyer friends
Pekora + Splat 2 will funnel views directly to Marine
>>12804117absolutely illegal
>>12804117Would be funny Niji lost the day cause of it.
Why Mio's stream got almost 3 times more viewers than Kanata's? Bad timeslot?
>>12804096I'll never forget how on earth did that stream got gold.
>>12804164Actual witchdoctor black magic
We're almost at 1000 posts already.
>>12804159Kanata's PC had some problems and she was not even able to play the game.
>>12804207were inclining numberbros
>>12804164Honestly thought it was a gimmick/challenge stream, like she was playing with a filter on purpose
Will this thread beat 1000 before archiving?
>>12804245We better or we're actually reclining. Time to graduate.
5mins left and there's only 5k waiting in Marine's Stream.Welp, i think it's really is Nijiday today
>>12804261This thread would be better if Nijikeks graduated.
>>12804261I don't want to graduate yet
30k on the end again pekkers.
Pekora lost again just as she reach 30k kek.
Right on time for the funnel
Otsupeko deshita!
Rare Joucho stream
>>12804290Yeah, you can put it in the daily gold alreadyNo slippages today
Well, I saw Pekora nab 30k again before she ended. Let's see how this affects Marine.
Pekora double 30k GET
>>12804321number bunny is too powerful
Peko...
30k lowers pecker's median though right?
>>12804332SSS
1 more post for a thousand.
Literally throw for marine. Pekkers i kneel.
Fucking Nousagis!!! You could've let pekora get another race for a proper view funneling!!
FOCKING ILLEGAL!
>>12804332Damn Peko
1K GET