/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Where did the Ina nepotism rrat come from?

[Anonymous No.]

sana got into council because their roommates are really close friends. idk where people get the notion the entirety of council was her though.

[Anonymous No.]

welcome to /vt/, redditor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025577
>council
cringe
just say gen2 you cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
>rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025577
'All Koreans outside of Korea know each other' dumbassery

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025663
Are you okay?

[Anonymous No.]

Never heard of this rrat, but I could see people who need drama assuming that all Korean leafs are friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
I do wonder where it came from.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025946
Are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025663
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Half of the council is composed of people Ina 'strongly recommended' to the company because she already knew them, similar to how Elira got all her friends into Ninisanni EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025663
based

[Anonymous No.]

>small audience
>not a lot of superchats
>can't sing
>doesn't organize collabs
To be perfectly frank, I have no idea why anyone would think Ina's recommendation has any value to Hololive EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026342
what can i say, being Omega crumpet have its benefits

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026130
half? so is it 2, or 3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535

[Anonymous No.]

>joins just because Okayu was hired
>refuses to elaborate further

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026342
Recommendations from existing chuubas are highly valued by Cover. FYI in gen2 Ollie was spotted in Bae's past life too and followed her on twitter IIRC - probably that was a rec from the zoombie shitter. I don't think they were IRL friends close but it feels like she didn't and still doesn't really stand out as a bombastic talent, but, Ollie's rec tipped the scales. It makes sense seeing how Bae is in some ways like Ollie (but better than her actually in terms of being less desperate for attention). As to how close Ina/Sana are I dunno but I think they were more of internet friends/steam buddy type close who may have a handful of times run into each other IRL at cons etc, than like they actually lived with each other close (like Millie/Enna did for NijiEN).

Whether this practice is actually a scientific/sociologically proven sound method to do things is another question. I mean, Holo Gamers were Fubuki's friends basically and Korone is one of those along with Okayu/Mio. I think an argument is to be made that someone you're already very comfortable with socially is going to be a much better collab partner and will probably more quickly integrate into a true buddy-buddy fashion with the rest of the Holos having someone help break the ice for them. Entertainment/showbiz industry just kind of works like this. There is also the unknown factor however of "will this friend of friend actually grow to like or care about anyone else in the company besides her existing friend" and you can see this in how some Holos' trajectories played out.

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>>13026949
Korone and Okayu was hired as a duo, they were proven as a group prior to Hololive. Totally different situation and that's the reason it worked out unlike Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026831

Literally just Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13027837
And Kronii. These are the confirmed ones.

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>>13027341
Ollie follows hundreds of vtubers and interacts with about half of those. She already followed all those 2-views that debuted for Prism last night. Being in one or two of Bae's old streams doesn't mean "they totally know each other and Ollie got her in." Ollie has no pull within the company, outside of the ID branch, it's unlikely she was consulted in any way nor even knew who the applicants were until they were revealed internally a little while before the real debuts.

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>>13027880
Ina and Kronii did not know each other. They are not related.

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>>13027419
You're talking out your ass when we have it on Korone's word that Okayu recommended her to Yagoo and she got in without having to do an interview. Yeah she had chops having been in upd8 beforehand but I don't know where you're pulling this "proven as a group" shit outta your ass from. The entirety of GAMERS are nepotism hires, this has been an established fact for a long time.

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>>13027341
>Holo Gamers were Fubuki's friends basically and Korone is one of those along with Okayu/Mio
Fubuki is a part of management and it's not surprising she actually has an eye for talent.
>>13028027
They literally are, they're related by blood.

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>>13028077
Ina and Kronii are not sisters.

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>>13028076
Okayu "recommended" Korone because they were a group before. Instead of hiring one chuuba you hire a proven duo. That's not nepotism, it's just a package deal.
>>13028113
I never said they were sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

"all gooks are related"
- retards in these threads logic

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>>13028138
Literally what "group" are you talking about? Fubuki knew Okayu from NND and Okayu had been friends with Korone for years at that point and recommended her as an additional member of GAMERS. If you don't have any proof to back up what you're saying, stop talking.

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>>13025535
>>13025577
both Sana and Kronii are friends with Ina from a past life

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>>13028138
>>13028077
By that logic, all of Holo JP is related

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>>13028113
All Koreans are direct siblings, they are all spawned by the same queen ant.
Yes, North Koreans too. Kim Jong-Un births all of them.

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>>13025663
council

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>>13028138
Ina is not Kronii's biological mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028205
Your question is resolved with a simple Google search.
>>13028250
You're retarded. Everyone is "related" by a common biological ancestor but we're not going that far back. Ina and Kronii are both Korean diaspora living in Canada, you could start there and find out the rest.
>>13028301
I never said that.

[Anonymous No.]

only Bae and Fauna deserved to get in

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028404
Maybe stop pussyfooting around and show proof.

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>>13028404
Not how this works fuckwit. You said something that goes completely against what has been established knowledge for years now, so it's on you to back up your claim. Not only that, it goes directly against something one of the chuubas in question has stated on stream without any hint of it being a lie or a joke. So go ahead. You can post a pastebin link or type in hiragana since we know the jannies are all EOPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028404
Ina and Kronii are not secretly the same person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Because it's not a rrat. I wish Mori had known about nepotism being a thing though. Milky would have been really good for EN2/3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028407
Bae is a CCP hire. None of them deserved to get in, unless this is really the best the western world can muster up.
>>13028448
>>13028479
Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
>>13028485
I never said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028501
Kronii is not actually already dead and being controlled by Ina as a soulless flesh golem.

[Anonymous No.]

>be retard and spread lies
>called out for being a retard
>backpeddles and quotes the rules like a good little cuckold
Retards like you need to get a week instead of 24 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028501
>All of a sudden starts caring about the rules when asked to back up his claims
Yeah, that's what I fucking thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028537
I NEVER SAID THAT

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>>13028448
it's the SEAmonkey classic shitposting style. Your oshi is dating a nigger, you want proof? just google it lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028499
Mori herself is a nepotism hire. I can guarantee you she tried to get Milky in and Ina simply had more sway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028501
You're already breaking the rules by discussing it so all you can do for yourself is show proof if you're not shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028501
I'm not any of the anons you're arguing with but you're a retard and quite possibly a nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025577
Kronii is Korean so retards think that she got in because of Ina too since apparently all Koreans know each other or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028499
Milky has a pretty crappy speaking/streaming voice even though she's a good singer. IRyS easily beat her out for Vsinger and I doubt it was even close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
How would you rate Ina's design?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026342
Bait aside, I imagine Cover values Ina second only to Gura in Myth due to all the behind the scenes support work she does.

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>>13028619
Yeah they seem pretty unrelated. Kronii wanted to be a seiyuu and did have a brief vtuber stint before this, but I never recall any trace of something actually-relevant to Ina being demonstrated. Sounds like something that would have been noticed in debut week or even pre-debut. Sana was figured out 100% from pre-debut.

Basically if Kronii could draw very well or if she played FFXIV maybe that'd sound plausibly within Ina's sphere but no I think she was just some random girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028908
It's probably:
Gura>Ina/Mori>Sana>IRyS>Ame/Kiara>Kronii/Mumei>Bae/Fauna

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028501
>Cantonese second gen migrant
>CCP hire
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028587
Mori is only tangibly related via the Roboco-Kokorobeats line. I'm fine with a tako generation for EN2, because Mori already gets praise from indies and gets along well with ID2.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina herself is a nepotism hire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028908
>due to all the behind the scenes support work she does
Such as? Did you mean Ame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029710
Why are teamates like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029960
Ina doesn't do shit behind the scenes. She's too busy with her doodles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029960
He's right tho. Ame does plenty of background work. Sometimes I even feel she prefers being a manager rather than a streamer, and she does love streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029960
But he is right, in comparison Ina doesn't do shit besides maybe some drawings. The ones who have the leader role are most likely Ame and in a less instance Kiara due to her extrovert personality

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>>13028908
Neither Gura nor Ina do much of anything behind the scenes. I guarantee you they consider Calli the most valuable on account of having the second largest audience, the most successful music, a lot of superchat revenue, and a decent amount of work behind the scenes.

"Bait aside," there is not a chance in hell that Ina is anything but the least valuable in Myth. That's why this whole idea that people are getting hired for knowing her is ridiculous.

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>>13030263
I feel like Kiar is trying to vie for more of a leader-like role in organizing big collabs, putting out songs, her little animal shorts trying to set a trend etc. She also streams like a complete beast and puts everyone else in EN to fucking shame at the end of the day. I would say she is definitely the most important socially for EN as the only one who is actually really-comfortable interfacing freely with HoloJP, Ina can kind of do it but seems 10x less confident.

Ame however seemed tapped in two ways to be considered this - she is the only human character in Myth making her the standout, she is not a monster girl but is investigating all the other ones aka is tying all the other girls together herself. She is also more tech savvy than most of them it appears and can be an actual background support when needed. The smol 3Ds the Myths have (and then the wacky deformed Councils) happened explicitly because Ame. It's not like she sat there in blender making everything by hand but still she was the organizer/producer for it and EN is a lot better off for it.

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>>13030490
Except one person who's only real merit for the position is being an artist and knowing Ina did get hired. Obviously they place a high value on recruiting top English-speaking anime style artists.

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>>13030502
>she is the only human character in Myth making her the standout, she is not a monster girl but is investigating all the other ones aka is tying all the other girls together herself
Retarded omegafaggot lore that no one cares about. Ame is canonically a bee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13030502
These are your new managers. Wat do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13030502
After all this time everyone found their role in that group, Ame as the mastermind and tech expert, Kiara as the speaking voice and bridge to JP, Gura as the ace and comedy who can also sing very well, Ina as the artist/ design and Mori as the music producer. Honestly they don't even need Omega

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029710
>>13030002
>>13030096
>>13030263
>>13030490
Every single time they have a big collab the main organiser mentions Ina being a huge help either with troubleshooting or some other behind-the-scenes thing. Mario Kart, Mythbreakers, the anniversary collab, etc.

You have to be deliberately not paying attention to not realise how much she does for the group.

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>>13030921
I don't watch that much from Ina so... Yeah pretty much I don't pay much attention to her. Ame's creativity just shines too much in those big events

[Anonymous No.]

>>13030921
That's funny, because I only ever notice them mentioning Ame or Kiara. Any timestamps?

[Anonymous No.]

The ONLY time anyone got preferential treatment when hiring new talent was when they wanted to replicate Fubuki's success by assembling a team around Fubuki. And you can't even talk shit about it, because it clearly worked.

This isn't even an anti-Ina rrat. It's a fucking tako rrat by people who think Ina is infinitely more significant than she actually is.

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>>13031166
As you can see here, there is no mention of Ina because she didn't do anything. Managers are added in only as goodwill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
her dad is a well respected and connected artist,her brother got into a good school because of her dad.

rrat going to rrat because of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>13030724
Eiffel tower with my dick as Ame's dildo and my tongue as Kiara's registered asshole and pussy pleasure device.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026949
Isnt she one of the most watched?
That's a case of a good recommendation

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>>13028908
What "behind the scenes support" from Ina?

The only thing she actually materially contributed to Hololive is some drawings every now and then, so Cover saves a few bucks on commissions, but it's not like they couldn't substitute that with the dozens of fanarts of similar quality that Hologirls get for free every day, if they wanted to.

The one who actually does most of the behind the scenes support is Ame, who comes up with new ideas while the other ones are mostly just passive passengers and don't do anything original, and Ame does a lot of the technical and organizational work. Meanwhile, Ina for example does [what exactly???], but of course, she's the producer's little favorite for some reason and gets to influence the application process, while Ame gets fuckall for her efforts

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029460
>"not all chinks"
Kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>13031600
>for some reason
Anon, they're... they're... having s-

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029710
>>13030002
>>13030096
>>13030263
>>13030490
>>13031600
Why are teamates like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13032024
No argument. Now buzz off!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13032024
They're insecure

[Anonymous No.]

>>13031039
>>13031166
Teammates admitting to not watching enough streams to have an opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13033709
Timestamps or GTFO. Can you find even one instance where Ina was of any help during a collab?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys remember that old rrat that Ina was a manager for a different Vtuber agency?

[Anonymous No.]

nepotism is based
in an ideal world everyone would be a nepotism hire

[Anonymous No.]

>>13033956
When were any of them helpful during collabs? Truth of the matter is besides Ame nobody in Myth needs to do anything other than what they're currently doing. Gura is a good singer and entertainer, Mori does the music, Ina does the drawing, Kiara does the GFE, so what exactly is left for Ame? She can't do any of those things so all is left for her to do is the "creative" streams and the organizational work. Ame is the most replaceable out of all the others in Myth and she knows it, hence why she's been tryharding so much and has gotten close to getting a burnout trying to prove herself and the audience that she can has a place within Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025577
why the fuck do you use the term roommates. why the fuck does this entire board speak like the retards on /trash/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
If you were here for more than an hour you'd know why. Fuck, if you even read the board's rules you'd know why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040427
The only "talent" that's even remotely relevant to a vtuber is singing. Ame is entertaining and that's all that matters. I certainly don't want to watch Ina draw fan art for 10 hours or hear Mori's next take on wigger rap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13031249
>Mythmates
>none of the others are mentioned by name either

[Anonymous No.]

>>13037988
Why?

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>>13040770
I agree, being entertaining is most of if not all of it, the rest is just fluff (Pekora and Kuzuha are great examples of that, they do sing and stuff but they're mainly watched for their entertainment value, same thing for Gura who's still a great singer but doesn't do Karaoke streams that often). Thing is, Ame is in the lower bracket of Myth when it comes to viewership, so it seems that even being entertaining isn't really her strong point. She'd be a lot better at being a manager.

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>>13041008
Ame is like what, third in Myth? I'm not a numberfag so I don't keep track but looking at her VOD views and sub count that seems about right. Gura is universally appealing because she's cute and funny, and I guess people really like Mori's music (for some reason). Nothing wrong with Ame's numbers and her recent hiatus is probably because holoEN is going down the shitter.

[Anonymous No.]

Boot sana out. Council only needs 4 members. Just fucking get rid of her already

[Anonymous No.]

>>13041359
>holoEN is going down the shitter.
How so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13041359
>holoEN is going down the shitter.
by what metric?
Your asshole hurts that day metric?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13041880
>>13041964
Source: The voices in my head

NOT taking my meds, don't bother asking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13041880
>>13041964
>council
>omegafaggot debut
>more collabs with ironic weeb anitubers
Admit it. EN already reached its peak, it's all downhill from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>every new EN has some previous connection to Ina
gee, i wonder where the rumor came from. yall hear the rrat about the sky being blue and the rrat about the sun coming up in the morning? where’d those come from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040539
I've been on and off the board since launch and I'm still not sure why we use the term Roommate
>Board rules
So we use the term to circumvent breaking the rules, despite the fact most people connect A and B together pretty quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13031926
DON'T SAY IT!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
It's been this way since before /vt/ existed newfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042484
>>13031600
Where did this rumor comes from? Why is Ina suddenly the producer's favorite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042593
>Where did this rumor comes from?
4chan.org/vt

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042400
Not going to spoonfeed you with the most basic of concepts, newfag. Stop embarrassing yourself.
These newshits are getting more and more cocky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042593
There's been nuggets of info over the past year that point to the fact that Ina and Omega know each other IRL, which leads to wild theories on how Ina has much more power behind the scenes in regards to the EN branch. For all we know, Ina could have convinced Omega to convince Yagoo to create the EN branch so that Ina could get in for reasons unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13037100
Atelier Live isn't an agency and what you're talking about isn't even a rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042593
omegatranny is ina's former chatmod

[Anonymous No.]

>>13043091
>>13042913
Who is Omega?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13043282

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
does anyone have that pic of her inking into a glass

[Anonymous No.]

>>13043401
Oh THAT Omega. I thought she was another Streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13032067
sorry i hate all of your oshi's ideas, even a normal zatsudan would've been better than those cringe fests. i hope she graduates for the best of hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025663
of all the things to be angry about

[Anonymous No.]

>>13032024
>everyone who disagrees with me must be a shill even if they are objectively correct
Watson is possibly the second least valuable after Ina. But that's a very, very distant second.

The only talent with the kind of power to affect new hires is Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
revealed to me ina dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>13031179
>The ONLY time anyone got preferential treatment when hiring new talent was when they wanted to replicate Fubuki's success by assembling a team around Fubuki.
Even that's mostly not accurate. The only nepotism hire was Korone, who more than earned her place since then. Mio auditioned and got accepted on her own first, Fubuki just suggested Gamers because she missed the cutoff for Gen 2 and would have had to sit around waiting for the next generation otherwise.
And then they recruited Okayu and Korone, but Okayu still went through an audition anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Takodachi delusions of grandeur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042913
>There's been nuggets of info over the past year that point to the fact that Ina and Omega know each other IRL
As in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13050632
It's still accurate. Mio seems to have gone through the process normally, but got preferential treatment because Fubuki knew she would work well with her, and that was the goal. Okayu doesn't seem to have applied at all, and went straight to an audition because Fubuki scouted her. Again, preferential treatment to meet the goal of building a team around Fubuki. And Korone skipped auditioning entirely because Fubuki liked Okayu enough to give preferential treatment to a friend who came strongly recommended and showed potential.

It's not like they were all just hired on the spot for knowing Fubuki. But the process was unusual for all three, and none of them were hired purely based on merit, because the explicit goal was a Fubuki generation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13030921
I’m just here to shitpost against Koreans but even I have to stop and remind everyone that Ina has designed a lot of HoloEN’s merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026831
2.5
Weren't you taught math?

[Anonymous No.]

>being butthurt about nepotism in japanese idol group company with talent scouting strategy rooted in hiring akiba cafe performers and niconico talents, and gameplan based around bombing algos through strong collaborations
is /vt/ really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028404
Korone wasn't a vtuber until she became Korone.
The splatoon duo you seen is a different girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>13053473
Aya absolutely was Korone. Mina wasn't Okayu though, that's the part people get wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13053358
People in general have this weird stigma against nepotism like it isn't omnipresent in human society.
>N-n-n-no my oshi isn't a nepotism hire because [lists reasons they're a nepotism hire]
It's funny to watch the mental gymnastics sometimes. My oshi is blatantly a nepotism hire and has freely admitted to it several times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Mentally ill trannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>13037988
Kill yourself kike

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042167
This is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
75% of this board IS from /trash/
That's why you get banned for calling out trannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>13053822
If he was a kike he wouldn't want everyone to be friends and family with one another so they don't have to struggle and toil through rounds of meaningless applications, interviews, auditions etc. just to put bread on the table. Wanting everyone to be socially isolated from one another is wholly the Jews' doing. Imagine not even knowing what you're larping about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
Those terms originated on /jp/ more than a year ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042593
They played FFXIV together

[Anonymous No.]

>>13043516
>she

[Anonymous No.]

>>13043091
That was Enma

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
It's unfathomable Kronii and Sana could have made the cut for Hololive without Ina's referral.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13052814
>I’m just here to shitpost against Koreans
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13053976
Kikes gained all their power through nepotism, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054060
Same person

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054094
Eh, anyone can make the cut for Hololive nowadays. I'm not saying everyone has to be la creatividad (I'm not talking about Ame) but the absolute drop in quality comparatively between JP and EN is staggering. It genuinely baffles me how any member of Council has gachikois.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
Lurk the fuck moar

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028250
They are, by marriage (to me).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054177
And? If more people did that they wouldn't have nearly as much power as they do. Nepotism on its own isn't the problem, smoothbrain. Fostering personal bonds between people beyond just being cogs in the machine is exactly what Jews want to avoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13053725
Funny thing is playing field is SO SMALL there is no way around it even if you think it's a bad thing. Imagine being HR at Cover and seeing qualifications list:
>must be female
>must be qualified enough performer
>must have established audience
>must be positive about internal comms and collabs
>past activities preferably in 2D/gaming community
this already cuts hiring range so thin, you are basically stuck with talent pool of past colleagues/collaborators. And no, new kid on the block is not gonna cut it, cause experience is the king in this field, unless new kid is borderline god given entertainer, and even so, risks are just too high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054224
They pandered to the same cucks that give whores on twitch money. That's why this board seethes when anyone uses simp or cuck now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054224
I certainly can debate that. Is Polka or Nene clearly superior to Ina or Kronii? Is Mel superior to Gura? Is anyone in Gamers superior to Gura? Is anyone in JP superior to Gura? Actually I think Gura is the best streamer in HoloLive, with it being debatable when compared to Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054312
Yes to all your questions

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054210
No they aren't. A producer isn't going to be wasting their time being a chat mod and managing one person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054384
That's exactly what he did though, retard. He wasn't even around that often anyway and Ina barely needed managing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054351
Sorry bud they weren't questions, they were rhetorical statements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
I hate Ina! In order to fit in with /vtsisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13029582
anon, there is more to that
Mori worked with/was mentorem by folks like BGV (buds with AZKi and FBK), ill.bell (worked with Kanata), Fake Type (FBK, Mel are fans) and their animators (surprise friends with Suisei since indie times)
it's actually hilarious how much of a fit Mori was despite thinking she has no chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054439
Jesas anon. How about this. Elaborate on why you think they're the same person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13027419
>>13028138
if you're talking about pic related, no its not okayu,
its actually inui toko

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054473
I love Ina and unironically think she is the only one worth simping for(though I still don't give her money) and hate almost everyone on this board. Correlation? Hmm....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054595
Then post the picture!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054560
AOchan is Omega
No one talks about enma anymore, just jenma
Enma was suppose to be a catch all for all EN management
AOchan was the one who joined in on L4D2
AOchan and Enma essentially don't exist anymore

Hopefully that's enough for your tiny brain to piece together

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>>13054312
>personal taste questions
You and general anglosphere public find witty midwest loli most attractive chuuba, not best chuuba, she is your common taste denominator. I don't think that gura is best with her singing, zatsus, gameplay, character model and rig or even comedic timing, yet she is universally appealing and thats what matters in game of numbers. This being said, jp had their share of weaker talents so i wouldn't be in a hurry to dunk on en.
Leaning into more "western/twitch" personas was logical conclusion to establishing english branch, there is no way around it. I personally don't really like it, but whatever, theres enough fish in the water.

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>>13030921
>Mario Kart
She literally only drew the hats that all their avatars wore

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054731
>AOchan is Omega
>Because I said it, it's true!
Not reading the rest, you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054767
Gura isn't even that witty. Most of the humor comes from her doing stupid stuff that ends with funny outcomes.

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>>13054767
>Best youtuber
Judging that can only be done using personal taste.

There are only a few objective metrics:
>Sub count
>Viewer count & view length
>Like/dislike ratio
>SC frequency and amount
>maybe a few more

And in these metrics Gura surpasses at least half of JP. Opinion-wise, Gura is my favorite streamer but that means jack shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054891
>too retarded to even believe the one that everyone agrees on
>calls others retarded
Sasuga

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054767
none of the Myth really fit a typical twitch streamer profile, outside of Ame
Council has Kronii and... that's about it, too

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw there are actual Matsuri oshis in this board right fucking now, probably in this thread making fun of Ina and Kronii

Jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054953
>It's true because other retards on /vt/ think it's true
Anon, come one. Think of the average /vt/ anon and really put some thought if that's really worth believing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055135
You're either a cover shill or extremely retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055215
You're not even giving any proof. You're just saying it's true because other anons said it's true. I'm not the retarded one here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055325
I gave proof, you chose to ignore it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055357
Holy fuck you're retarded. But don't worry, my """proof""" of that is it's just something everyone agrees on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054990
I've written 500 words essay about how myth is literally twitch subgenres, and how gen2 is apparently(don't really follow them) should be fitting it too, but it wakaba seems to ate it up without result. Anyway point is - holoEN is extremely western and deeply ingrained in anglosphere streaming culture, yes not all of them twitch gremlins and thots, yet they sitll very much twitch.

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>>13054891
>AO is their manager
>appears to mod Ina's chats all the time
>AOchan disappears
>Alpha Omega appears
>states that he was there in Holo EN at the start and he's created the division

Come on, his name is even AO Alpha Omega.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055620
Sounds interesting, can you give a summarized breakdown for each girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055094
This really puts things into perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054937
As it has been already established all this objective numbers are based around "brand appeal", if we define being the best streamer as "being best marketed product" yes, they matter, but if we are talking about quality of performers we are stuck in hell of subjectivity. Well, if you wanna publish thesis on objective judging criteria and rules for internet performers using hololive as medium of choice, i'm not gonna stop you lol.

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>>13054921
not true, she is the only EN who can set up a punch line and deliver it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055898
>gura - apex twitch uwu gremlin and memelord, literally had seven figure of followers prior
>ame - noisy gaming chick, garden variety, one of the most popular subgenres, salt, tantrums, you know the drill
>ina - peak comfy weeb art streamer stereotype, down to being second gen korean canadian and music lessons in the past
>kiara - cosplayer e-girl that worth exactly her collaboration/networking capital and fanservice provided, you've seen them, you hate them/meh them
>mori - "hey, check out my soundcloud"-type of amateur musician that really needs to grow her platform, so twitch it is. Not really into streaming culture yet extremely common case.

don't really follow council, but from what ive seen
fauna - asmr chick/variety streamer plain and effective
chronii - amateur VA, trying to make it into industry. meanwhile gets her bread by seducing young weebs, not judging, she is good at this.
mumei dunno, but from what i've heard "mentally ticking" chicks is a separate subgenre attracting very particular audience
rat - SEA azn girl, as in super asian, most likely hosts for ESLs, not really twitch seems more afreeca/bilibili type of content
sana - weeb art streamer. goes to ina's basket, with aussie sticker over her massive forehead. less sticking out as stereotype, still close enough.

[Anonymous No.]

This oni is spreading anti-Korean conspiracy theories online while queueing for Ranked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13056634
anon, this shit is so hopelessly general you are just sorting them by subculture/interest more than you sort them by 'twitch archetype'

only Ame had the sort of content output and style that twitch strongly encourages, with longform, variety streams with very little barrier between the streamer and audience
all the other shit basically spans 'streamer archetypes' or 'female nerd archetypes'

[Anonymous No.]

>>13031465
Based, would do the same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>13056634
mumei pl was hugely popular, she had 7 figure subs as well or seomthing

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042913
>for reasons unknown
Ina didn't have any friends so she manipulated everyone to create the EN branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13056870
Twitch is bigger than post 2016 LSF shenanigans with redemption arks with doctor k, what im describing are common enough types of streams on twitch, that people recognizing them as a certain form of popular meta characters. Your biggest point is ame playing by the book twitch meta with little distance between her and viewers to bait engagement and clips, yet you are forgetting that the whole point of chubas is making a character to build some distance and lend the talent more space to be comfortable and play their audience. And "streamer archetypes" or "female nerd archetypes" doesn't really cut it cause western streamers are very much different from their asian colleagues due to very different cultural background. Look at bilibili and afreeca then look back at twitch/youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025577
>>13025663
Do you think they went with council to try and copy Nijisanji's way of naming gens?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026342
>>not a lot of superchats
Makes over 50k a month from membership

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058311
>Watches 2 episodes of anime a week with her members, literally the laziesr EN member content
>Makes more than me yearly just for doing that

.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13027979
that kind of behaviour is indistinguishable from scouting behaviour. but it could just be a big coincidence amirite

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
OmegAlpha=AO=Ina's mod from Day 1=Ina's BF
Sana=Ina's old friend
/tread

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026342
>basically inhouse artist
>takodachis is probably most devoted yet least deranged fanbase
>tied to chinese gacha overlords

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
>rrat
bruh....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058372
are you cute korean girl with soothing voice, solid art skills, career in illustration and established community of followers and wealthy parents to boot?
This octopus is winner in life, and im all for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like a mod forgot to dilate again

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058428
AO is a tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058285
It is said that EN doesnt have gens. That why its not gen 1 but HoloMyth.

But I think people are too used to the JPs gens so its hard to change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13047328
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054094
>Kronii
Where is the evidence Ina had anything to do with Kronii besides them both being Korean-Canadian?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Decline in quality. With hololive being a free meal ticket, viewers expected the best of the best. Nepotism is the simplest explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025663
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
uh oh, someone hasn't been doing their reps...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063340
Anon, that's not even the first post...

[Anonymous No.]

Takos really are trying to give cumbuds a run for their money on delusions of grandeur, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Its not a rrat
Pic related was sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028606
lmao this made me actually laugh, good shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054060
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025577
>just because they're friends
Have you any proof at all that nothing else got her in? No? That's what I thought, faggot. So believing everything /vt/ tells you.
>>13025730
Yes, rrat.
>>13026130
[Citation needed]
>>13028499
Except it is a rrat, faggot.
>>13050632
>n-nepotism!
One talent taking a job offer on the condition of another being hired is not nepotism either, you mong.
>>13053358
>>13053725
Chanting words whose meanings you don't know doesn't make them apply to things, retard.
>>13054094
It's unfathomable you remember to breathe, faggot.
>>13058567
>he believes rrsts and thinks they're truth
Bruh.
>>13064502
It's a rrat. Particularly shitty one at that. And your pic is meaningless contextless nothing that if anything is probably omegafaggot.
This board gets more retarded by the day, I swear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13067679
Ina...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13040455
cause roommate is easier that typing out "the person behind the avatar".

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070381
headmate would be funnier

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070469
Headmate is garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070512
i like to imagine they are all schizophrenics and their identities are their tulpas

[Anonymous No.]

>>13067679
calm down Ina..

[Anonymous No.]

>>13067679
Ika hand wrote this

[Anonymous No.]

>>13067679
all me btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>13042400
when you dont uphold your board traditions and culture you end up like half of the other dogshit boards on this website that just regurgitate wojacks frogs, and spam cope seethe dialate for 5 years straight and almost certainly for the next 5 years to come

[Anonymous No.]

>>13067679
I'm gonna prove you wrong
There's my source
>Trust me bro
You are the same.

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>>13025535
Obvious connections to Sana, being both artists and close friends in PL. At this point is not even a rrat if not highly implied, even if some Takopiums say it was recommendation and not cronyism at all. It's pretty funny because Sana won't make art for Cover or draw in stream, and took a very long vacations (Her dog died, it's sad but I'm pretty sure she wasn't crying the whole time). So is still unknown what Ina said to recommend her, the artist side obviously wasn't one of the reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025663
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>13026342
>>small audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>13028499
>>13028587
Friendly reminder that in Mori's collab with milky, the latter called fubuki who was in the chat ''Fubuki-senpai'' I think she is more than guaranteed to be in EN3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070381
"Soul" would have been a more appropriate term, but the word's already being used for something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13025535
Ina and Sana have admitted to being longtime friends on stream, so it’s likely that she put in a good word at the very least. Kronii is a Korean in western Canada, so anons assume they know each other without evidence. Ina also has had the fewest problems with management, leading to theories that they’re old friends of hers. Don’t know why people extrapolate her being behind the rest of Council though.
>>13074869
Either that or they’re doing another Vsinger before EN3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13075756
>Don’t know why people extrapolate her being behind the rest of Council though
Well, "someone" is clearly behind Council, because there's no way any of them could get in on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people trying to smear Ina with the nepotism brush? I'm pretty sure Mio made it in based off Fubuki's recommendation and Mio dragged Korone along with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13077589
>I'm pretty sure Mio made it in based off Fubuki's recommendation and Mio dragged Korone along with her
The difference is they had experience as vtubers before and were clearly good picks. None of them were new to the industry. Sana and Kronii were forced in by Ina, there's no way they would have passed audition on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13067679
Korean dog hands wrote this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>13077663
Korone did. Mio and Okayu did not. I really have no idea how we are somehow losing established knowledge about chuuba's pasts. This is not unconfirmed information or a rrat, they are facts that have been known since the debut of GAMERS. Stop spreading misinformation to make your point, it's actually catching on and confusing people.

[Anonymous No.]

why retards keep replying baits?
they want attention, they are attention whores, stop replying
god i swear, someone has to write a guide on who to deal in the internet for newfags, no matter how much time passes, people keep committing the same mistakes non stop, insanity

[Anonymous No.]

>>13077924
>Mio and Okayu did not
Mio did not, which is why she had to take an audition to get in. Okayu wasn't necessarily a vtuber (don't remember and don't care) but she was a proven streamer and entertainer. Sana and Kronii (or really, anyone in Council) clearly didn't. The auditions for Council were smoke and mirrors.
>Stop spreading misinformation to make your point
I'll do whatever the fuck I want.