/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>So something like hololive is a good example of this, it's always instant success, you don't have to be a good streamer, you will get success, you will get money, because of you're part of hololive. You'll get a lot more money than most people will see in their lifetime monthly, right?
I really can't disagree with him after those debuts. What did any of these girls do to deserve those debut and sub numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Of course he is right, everyone who disagrees is either delusionnal or a flaseflagger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
He was right, yeah, but that's the whole point of joining a brand with massive recognition, it's just capitalism working as intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Why is Cali so obsessed with Trash Taste? They shit on Hololive and then she proceeds to go on as a guest right after.

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>>13742454
Starting off with non-tuber, this thread is going to go 404 not found real fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Brand Name is good though? Only buy Brand Name

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742538
Because she knew trash taste was right!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Applies mainly to HoloCouncil. The majority of them are poor streamers and see plenty of paypigs regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Holofags can't cope the fact that this man said the truth!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742538
Hololive and the girls are not a single entity. Hololive fucks them over

[Anonymous No.]

anya and homostars would like a word with his theory

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Not a vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
You know, this guy gets the most out of all the TT fags, but he's the most bearable one out of all of them and isn't an actual confirmed scammer like the other two fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>leech off your more successful youtube friends

i mean it really does take one to know one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
I do wonder does another entertainment brand also gain this rediculus popularity after they introduce their new talents? For example like kpop agency or music agency.... I'm kinda new to this whole fanbase and stuffs

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>>13742454
The problem with his statement is the assumption that you can even lie in your resume and pretend you know shit to puff up your way through a Hololive audition. You can't because your online past persona is proof that you did the work that Hololive wants to see in a new gen. You can't fake shit. Even casuals will figure out who you are 10mins into your debut. If you are famous enough, they will know who you are even before you debut because it's so obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Yikes imagine being jealous of a fictional YouTube character kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742538
Connor has mastered the art of appearing "hard-to-get" which womyn drool over, while simultaneously being a gigantic leech.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a big rrat poster can I get an invite to the discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
anya...
iopi....

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>>13742672
the Holostars had no benefit from their association with Hololive at debut, hence why members of the groups couldn't even mention the other for the first three months after Miyabi debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't every member of trash taste except Connor just coasting at this point? Gigguk doesn't make any content and Joey just makes clickbait garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742753
This statement is not wrong either, do you think those who desperately wanted to be in Hololive did not lie in their resume? Did you ever been to a job interview?
Cover changed their application approach, they only look for visibly experienced people.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying those chuubas didn't grind before they joined Hololive
You faggots are irredeemable. Koyori was a 2 view with 17k subs grinding for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742672
Still works, Anya and Homos would be just another 2view in a sea of thousand indistinguishable others without the Hololive brand buff, which carries them at least to... 200view level, which is still far above what they would be able to reach on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742672
>homostars
They are Cover's black sheep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
>Sana

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>>13742892
>Cover changed their application approach, they only look for visibly experienced people.
Aloe...

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>>13742917
Bruh you do know that the homostars who retired are doing much better than 200 views, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
>Poor corporate vTubers. They don't have the freedom to do anything and have to pay part of the revenue to a soulless company. Why ever work for one?
>Goddamn corporate vTubers. They do nothing and still become successful over night. What have they done to deserve these numbers?
The duality of corporate vTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
So what does this faggot think of the early days, when Hololive truly was a small indie company with talents debuting with sub 100 viewers?
Would he say the same back then, or is he just another "popular thing bad" contrarian doublenigger.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like the guy, but he's 100% correct, and kinda based for saying it, but it was still dumb of him to say, considering a) his relationship with actual vtubers and b) the rabid nature of the Hololive fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742715
Yes? It basically works similar in any other field. If your group/brand is already established and has built up a sizeable audience, new members benefit from the instant eyeballs effect, being gifted basically "free advertising" right from the start (the nature of fandoms is such that the audience will even do the advertising for you), whereas if you start without the clout you'll have to grind your way up from the bottom (which most never gonna get, which is why the vtuber market, like streaming or hell entertainment in general, is so very lopsided and pyramid-shaped, with a one percent at the top basically dominating the vast majority of the attention and income, and below are various levels of thousands of scrapers and ngmi'ers)

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>>13742538
because mori agrees with him and his opinions on hololive stem in large part from his dms with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Well, may be he should quit TT and do shits on his own then

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
>he doesnt like people who has been struggling with streaming getting success and recognition
why are you fags listening to this guy again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742917
So you agree there's a significant personal contribution involved? Good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Next you'll say lottery winners don't deserve the money they win

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742892
Anon. Are you stupid or something??? The work entails live streaming and content creation. Something you have to show LIVE. HOW DO YOU FUCKING FAKE YOUR LIVE STREAM ABILITIES??? Nobody care if they graduated from some ivy league or something. They are obviously scouting people that have a long list of creative work. They have been doing this since Gen3. The only few exceptions like Kanata for one was an utaite that still had consistent content to show.

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>>13742538
mori doesn't care about vtubing and only sees it as a cash grab with cuckbeats as pay pigs

[Anonymous No.]

user was banned for this post

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>>13742454

He is right, but he is also a literal buttpounding faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
>go through thousands of applicants to find the best ones
>they they get hired at the highest paying company
>wooow wtf just because they're part of the biggest companies they get paid so much not fair, I'm just as good as them who deserves as much :(
Even if it's true, it's no different from anything else. Yes there's talent but aside from geniuses, at a competitive level people aren't that different in what they're capable of. It just comes down to the best matches they can find for the few openings that are available. So it's a very mundane take and trying to apply it only to Hololive is retarded.

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>>13742538
His take is probably based on what calli said at the izakaya together with milky and syd

[Anonymous No.]

>>13743165
Why would this be a contradiction? Things then and things now are different. Yes, talents from back in ze day didn't have the instant success and had to grind and build up the Hololive brand to the level it reached today, but after certain tipping points were reached and the whole thing was able to snowball on its own from inertia (especially the algo driven nature of the YT platform), it changed with later gens who stood on the shoulders of those before them to the current state that new talents are already gifted instant six figgy subs even before debuting, to the point where it becomes really hard to argue it has anything to do with their own specific qualities (as nobody knows them yet) and everything to do with just having the coveted little blue triangle next to their name.

Really I think the heart of the issue boils down to how you choose to interpret the statements as a "value judgement", i.e. that OP sounds like he means "Hololive talents don't DESERVE their success", which of course is an idea you'd instinctively want to reject if you're a Hololive fan.
And to be true, discussions about "who deserves what" are mostly pointless anyways, since they either just devolve into subjective taste arguments (I enjoy Hololive the most, so of course they deserve it the most, vs other people who find other talents more appealing), or pointlessly trying to quantify the "effort" someone put in to make a case for their "deserving success" (for example, "but XY grinded so long before!", yeah sure, and thousands others also did, without the payoff, so that alone isn't the best yardstick either)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742894
His point isn't that they worked for it in the past anon, its that joining Hololive is an instant path to success.

[Anonymous No.]

Does he not realizes that every girl is picked through an audition? The mayority of these girls are independient chuubas/streamers that have been strugling with low views for YEARS, kinda like he fucking did until people started watching him because he happens to be friends with big youtubers. Does he think they're below him on quality as a content creator? Man, i've watched a lot of his podcast, but this take is just retarded, as the 95% of his takes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13743844
>Missing the point completely
>Resolve to personal attack
Ladies and gentlemen, a holodrone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
It's like being born as a woman with big tits

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>>13743817
Nah. He was going on a rant about faking your shit and just winging it until you get a hang of things since joining Hololive means having all the tools to do whatever. It's a bad take because people know you can't really fake anything to begin with. Scouters obviously look at public personas that the chuubas have. You can't just say you are an entertaining live streamer when you sound dog shit in all of your livestreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>B-but they streamed as a 2 view for years
Who gives a fuck? So do thousands of others who never make it.
His point is that once your foots in the door, that's it, you don't have to provide jack shit, you don't need to have any strong talents, you're an instant hit and will make more money in your first day of superchats than most people will make in their entire lives.
Ayame hasn't streamed in almost 2 months, she still makes most than the girls that do the few times she does, council is a disaster but they still make a bunch of money, fuck you have Ina who straight up tells people, don't give money, and they still do.

And the people that built this shit? The ones that had to endure the 2 views themselves when holo was nothing? They don't get to enjoy that success, the money, the numbers.

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>>13742454
>>13743165
He's literally just jealous as a low-skill and untalented failed VA living as an expat so he can hang out with his actual genuine weeb friends and record an "anime" podcast.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck leechers and reaction tubers, they're objectively the worst

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744047
>expat
He's a migrant, wish he would drown in a rickety boat in the Mediterranean

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>>13742454
How did anyone have a problem with this statement? He is just objectively correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
just another parasite

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744139
Scroll up.

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>>13744143
Maybe he should get a job....in a body bag.

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>>13742885
>Gigguk doesn't make any content
I'm mainly subscribed to him out of nostalgia for Podtaku, I don't bother watching half his videos. Glad his new podcast introduced me to Connor whose videos I almost always enjoy.

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>>13743637
>the heart of the issue boils down to how you choose to interpret the statements as a "value judgement", i.e. that OP sounds like he means "Hololive talents don't DESERVE their success"
If that wasn't the intent of such statement then why even say in the first place? Of course those girls would have a bunch of eyes on them because they have the fanbases of 47 (56 if you count the Stars) other members paying attention to their debuts. Yeah, it's instant early "success", but nothing guarantees they'll continue to grow big, otherwise there wouldn't be generation losers. And it's not like there aren't indies who manage to attract a lot of attention to their debut because of their connection. Don't you remember Artemis? Got a bunch of exposure, fan art and attention before even debuting and she's currently nowhere near the big leagues. If the statement wasn't to criticize the new members that got "unearned" success then I fail to see the point of even saying it at all.

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>>13744139
You might as well get mad at someone who gets drafted into, say, the Yankees. You'll instantly be a household name and enjoy success since you've become part of a historically winning organization, but it doesn't discount all the work it took you to get drafted in the first place

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>>13742538
Some of it is corpo shit. Bookwalker released a fanart book the same week as the tt podcast both times.

[Anonymous No.]

>What did any of these girls do to deserve those debut and sub numbers?
They got into hololive. Can you do the same? Your network is your net worth, kiddo.

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>>13744231
But his statement didn't evem imply that the hololive girls don't deserve the success. He just correctly observed that anyone chosen by hololive is garunteed it.

[Anonymous No.]

While the statement itself might be mostly correct, the problem comes from him name dropping Hololive. He was talking to Ironmouse when he said this and the same thing happened in Vshojo with Froot and Hime.

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>>13744047
I don't see why he'd be jealous, he's living his best life.
Apart from no gf, and never getting a gf.

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>>13742454
heh nothing personal kid

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>>13744292
His statement definitely implied that they don't deserve the success and OP echoed that

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744312
But if he does get a gf it will almost certainly be a qt japanese girl, the weeaboo dream,

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>>13742454
>Op can't speak Japanese
>Op doesn't see how those girls are talented
hm

[Anonymous No.]

While he's probably not entirely wrong, do the people agreeing with him even know the entire context of this statement?
Not like it matters, when he talked about it again with Ironmouse she basically said he's retarded. After the Joey video, I concluded that the TT gang like to talk about trends (in this case, vtubing) that they don't fully understand and then give a hot take when they don't have the full picture

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>>13744312
>content consists of making an ass out of himself in Japan, being the least knowledgeable person on an anime podcast, and leeching off of vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>13743300
nta, but I think if your point of contention ("lie on your resume?") is with the part of the statement that says "...you don't have to be a good streamer...", it's probably best to step back and untangle this for a bit.

For example, if you interpret it to mean "so does he think the talents are bad streamers, and lied in their application that they are good streamers, and only that's how they got in?" then yes, it sounds pretty farcial. While I personally do think that ~Cover's amazing scouting ability, best in the industry!~ is a bit overmemed by the fanboys, there has been (at least since after the early gens, where the company was still young and desperate enough to basically take in any randoms from the street and hope for the best) a clear pattern of them looking for a more or less established content creator history, and this is not something an applicant can simply fake their way through.

The more prevalent questions to get at are rather:
a) Are all talents in Hololive "good streamers?", meh, this is mostly just up to personal subjective taste, so there's no real "yes" or "no" here, or in the end just devolves into pointless moral arguments about deservedness etc (i.e. "if you are a ~good streamer~, you'll inevitably eventually become successful, and if you're unsuccessful, that's obviously the proof that you're just not a good streamer, simple as", basically the just world / meritocracy fallacy).
b) Do you need to be a "good streamer" to get into Hololive? Here I think the point of the matter should at least be considered. The brand power of HL is indeed so big now that they could debut a literal piece of cardboard tomorrow and it would get a six figure subcount instantly without any doing of their own, any bets. The "success" of related semi-cardboard characters like Omega who just vtweets kinda proves that point. But of course, the approaching the issue from that angle is so loaded that it poisons any chance to have a discussion about it with the fanbase (who are naturally disinclined to even entertain the notion that "their girls" are in any way less than great, and primarily take it as an attack on them and instinctively go on the defense, so yeah of course this is not the best wording if you really want to have a debate about it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744381
If you have no reading comprehension and insist on reading in things that weren't actually said.

[Anonymous No.]

OP is a faggot as usual

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>>13742454
Yeah you are right I really can't disagree that the grass is green and the sky is blue and OP is a faggot either

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>>13742454
Ey, remember when he hired a minor to do sexually explicit cosplay for one of his Fiverr videos? What a chad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744469
>Pedophile take on 4ch
I'm laughing anon, and saving that image.

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>>13742454
>What did any of these girls do to deserve those debut and sub numbers?
Passed an audition with tons of talented competitors held by a company with a track record of finding talented chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Omg shut the fuck up. The only thing worse than being a loser is worshipping other losers your life is fucking sad for real.

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>>13744390
>when he talked about it again with Ironmouse she basically said he's retarded
No wonder, i don't really get how he can say something like that when he's 'Friends' with the girls from Vshoujo. It's like saying 'noooo these girls from the number one company don't deserve their success, not like my from the third biggest company!'

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>>13742917
Lmao both of the holostars who have graduated are bigger by a lot without the brand name, I'm sure kira would be too if he ever decides to stream again

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744415
But think about it, could he be doing something better?
I'm not a hardcore fan so I might be wrong, but I don't even think he has a degree unlike the other two TT.
Jobs for uneducated Brits, well, he's doing very well right now.

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>>13744422
He literally said that you can be a bad streamer and still make tons of money in Hololive. Do bad streamers deserve to make money and be successful? Do I need to hold your hand through this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744575
Mouse shut him down quickly, but you can think it wasn't only out of righteous disagreement with the point of the argument, and more because she's at least savvy enough to realize it's not worth burning bridges over (with Cover company for future collab opportunities, and with the massive Hololive fanbase for pointless drama)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744578
This kinda begs the question, what is Holostars doing "wrong" that their talents are better off without them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744655
Do you not understand the concept of a hypothetical?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742538
Because Connor's opinions are just Mori's. She's the friend that talk bad about Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people bringing up holostars in a thread about hololive? They're literally two different brands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744469
>>13744524
Here's another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744797
at least post the actual video source before this thread gets 404d

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744710
there's nothing hypothetical about this, Connor has said this multiple times

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742538
Because Mori moved on from not caring about Hololive, to hating it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744767
A simple example that brand doesn't equal more success, some of them are more successful without any brand

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744832
One of his editors streamed himself editing this Fiverr video months ago, where he cut the part out from the final edit. It should be in his VODs somewhere, but it's been a few months now since it happened.

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>>13744469
>>13744797
First Arcadum, currently Nux, is VShojo gonna cut relationships with Connor too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13743817
Ah yeah, the instant 2-year path to success

[Anonymous No.]

I have no idea who this is. Is he supposed to be someone important?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744684
Suzaku blew up because of the shitton of Among Us collabs he did with other chuubas. He would have never been allowed to participate in those collabs if he was still a star. The real Holostar death trap is their innability to form any meaningful connections outside of the group.

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>>13744469
>>13744524
>>13744797
>we have dirt now
HOLY SHIT
LETS FUCKING
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744469
commissioning sexually suggestive content of an underage person could definitely get him in trouble, i don't something like >>13744797 would constitute though

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744989
I fucking hope, i like some of the girls, they're really entertaining, but i can't stand when they collab with this type of people

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
These shit heads never attack (((corporations))), only corporations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742686
>not on your knees servicing this gigachad of a man
what are you doing, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744469
FINALLY SOMETHING I CAN USE TO CANCEL HIM WITH
BLESS YOU ANON

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745042
Supposing there's something actually going on, is /vt/ even autistic enough to try to dig into this just for the chance of cancelling him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745160
can't cancel him while he is protected by mouse and vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744469
we need you to be based and post more of this stuff so Connor can disappear

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745042
>>13745072
To be fair, it was accidental. He did not verify the age of the cosplayer before he commissioned the Fiverr gig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745186
god... I wish

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Could he sound any more butthurt?
At least one of them has been Vtubing for 2 whole years and Hololive only chooses people with atleast a bit of talent.
Cope and seethe anituber

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>>13745019
this pretty much, and in an almost biological lvl men are only cool to other men when standing above women. Isolation makes them no good

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745238
hate to break it to you but this isn't sexually sexually suggestive in anyway. not much you could do with it, aside from maybe get the twitter mob to cancel him or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745214
:(

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745311
if this is not sexually suggestive to you then your coombrain has degenerated past the point of no return

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745238
In fact, the age of the cosplayer was never verified at all, so there's a possibility they're not a minor at all; but his reaction (and his editor's too) felt that it was worth omitting.

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>>13744684
I'd argue it's the brand name itself that's a debuff. They've had to entirely carry themselves to a consistent at least 200 viewers range and are now starting to make some connections. That brand still seems to have a stigma though. I think it was Miyabi, Aruran, shien, and oga got invited to a big fall guys tournament that featured other big name vtubers and they won the whole goddamn thing, japs didn't care much and the losing teams got way more clips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742681
gigguk is a scammer?

[Anonymous No.]

It's an audition process, only instant success if you get in. If he thinks some made it through unfairly then he is too much of a pussy to say which holos suck and don't deserve to be in it. If he thinks all of them deserve to be there then he has nothing interesting to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745404
picrel for reaction
>I did a fuckywucky

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745369

>>13744797
>>13745238
nothing about these images imply any kind of sexual intent or outwardly aim to try and provoke sexual arousal. showing a bit more thigh than usual wouldn't cut it
>>13744469
something like this could constitute however

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
and he instantly got told to shut the fuck up because he doesn't actually know what he's talking about and was digging a massive hole for himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Connor is trash but that's very true

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745618
Kek i need to see that

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745145
>receding temple hairline

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
>Another Connor (5’7) thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742917
Anya keeps debuffing herself and ID debuff. Holostars have penises so they don't gain anything from the brand other than beggars and savioufrags

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745733
>5’7
Really? Oh no no no no I thought he was white

[Anonymous No.]

>study and work every day to add to your CV and get hired at a cushy job for a big company
>"yeah anyone could make 6 figures if they were hired by that company"
???? Then why don't you just get hired if it's that easy? What a sap and a loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745618
Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b5mfijKp5s
connor eat shit. People dont need to deserve things to have them. Others try to work for them. False imitations. They should stay down instead of try to crawl up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745766
Because he already makes way more money than any holo. He is actually on the grind making good content and running multiple channels on multiple platforms with multiple patreons

[Anonymous No.]

>if you get hired by a big name brand you're more than likely gonna be successful because of it
>this is somehow a revelation
>he hangs out with vtubers all the time
>he himself is an extremely generic streamer
What did he mean this retardation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745120
>Cover
>Not belonging to them six brackets
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Why does this faggot love to talk about hololive? Why is he not talking about another big brand aka. Nijisanji? Or is hololive living rent free in his head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745951
Obviously cover is the biggest bait he could use.
It's pretty easy to bring views that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745951
He has only done it like a few times which isn’t much considering he runs YT, Twitch and a podcast

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745951
Nijisanji is not a big brand in the west, at all. There's only Hololive and Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745072
Did he even know the person age when he ordered the photos? If not then it is hardly a huge deal, at best/worst you could accuse him of not been careful enough.

[Anonymous No.]

Have you ever acted or entertained an audience before, anon? If you haven't, try recording yourself playing that smug "I'm-not-a-loli" character for around 2 hours and post it here. Surely it'll be of the same quality, if they haven't done anything to deserve their numbers and have no talent.
You don't even need such a stark contrast, HoloX mogged Council and they didn't even finish debuting. Of all the times to bring this discussion, such a strong debut season isn't the best.
If you're simply analyzing amount of content released on that channel for the numbers they have, then sure, they haven't done enough work to deserve them. Just like a sequel to a successful game didn't prove that it deserves the high day one sales numbers it'll get before review numbers even come out. That's how it works when you have a proven consistent track record, you enjoy the benefits of it. But to say no work was involved in reaching this is ridiculous. Which he probably wasn't saying, but it makes his whole statement worthless.
>If we don't consider all of the work involved by literally hundreds of people in order to build the environment where a talented person with a proven track record can debut with a high production channel to good numbers, then they didn't deserve it.
Yeah, no shit.
This is just like when a former member of whatever starts a new whatever and it's immediately more successful than any whatever you or me could make would be on day one. Saying they didn't deserve it is completely retarded, even if under some weird nonsensical angle such as "considering the amount of content they released on that new channel" it would objectively make sense.
It's a brainlet take to impress brainlets who love playing devil's advocate and feeling smart for saying nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13746145
see >>13745238 >>13745404

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744797
He looks disgusted in each screenshot anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13746145
Nah he didn't and when he realized he didn't include that bit in the video. Connor may be dumb as fuck with is takes but he isn't that much of an asshole.

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>>13745487
Look up the flying colors foundation. Both him and the other fag were part of the company's inner circle. He even drafted his apology letter with the company lol

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>>13746145
doesnt really make a difference to be honest. the "oh i didnt know how old she was" shit never sticks. if you possess or commission photos of sexually suggestive images of minors, you'll get in some kind of trouble.

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>>13746217
>>13746238
So even this is absolutely nothing? Jesus anons at least wait for someone to actually do something before trying to start a moral outrage.

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>>13746248
Weird that Connor teamed up with a group of scammers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13746248
Connor was totally one of them. Fuck you Connor!

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>>13745951
Hololive ignores him for the most part except for Mori so he feels slighted that they dont fall on his dick like vShojo.

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>>13745019
Astel did an improptu collab with Kanae in the middle of a stream, collabing is way easier for them and HoloID than Holo JP and Holo EN. Suzaku also used to be a collab beast, though I can't really prove that as his archives are gone

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>>13745951
Because he knows jack shit about vtubers he only talks about hololive because is popular enough, even one of the TT guys had to mention Kuzuha for him and he is the most popular male in the market

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>>13742454
What is he even arguing? That hololive has no standards? He's not willing to say which holos are coasting on the brand (unless he implies it's all of them) so his argument isn't even complete, it's just a vague and generalising provocation.

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>>13746201
>hoes mad

[Anonymous No.]

This is litteraly how everything work in this world, from financial success (kek working hard), Writer, making a game, curing cancer, i doesn't fucking matter if no one know about you to give their money

[Anonymous No.]

>>13746759
The thing is, it wasn’t an argument. It was a hypothetical example because they were talking about job interviews and he used hololive as an example

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>>13747017
Very curious of him to namedrop hololive with that specific wording, eh.

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>>13746857
THAT WAS HIS POINT YOU FUCKING RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742608
Didn't she make a song saying the exact opposite?

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>>13742454
Even if he's right, he should justshut the fuck up about it already. If he keeps bringing up hololive in collabs just to forcehis friends and acquaintances to commenton their instant success, thenhe's a colossal pathetic faggot who's clearly envious of anyone making it into hololive.

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>>13747060
>wtf? Why did he use the most famous VTuber agency as an example???!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
t. only successful because be leeches off vtubers. The irony is palpable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13747203
>*sob* *sob* I don’t want to hear the truth like the leftist i am!!

[Anonymous No.]

Holy holobrony cope itt

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
WOW LIFE ISN'T FAIR? WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT, THANKS FOR THE REVELATION.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742547
sorry to disappoint

[Anonymous No.]

>>13747471
>runs the biggest pocast on YT
>h-he leeches the dying trend trust me bro!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742675
not a single fuck given, faggot
>>13742681
not again with this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745766
Where the argument at least has ~some~ merit is that AFTER you get in (so yeah, of course you had to pay your dues first beforehand, Cover doesn't hire any random off the street (anymore), so if you account for pre-holo work, everybody that's in now had to put in effort at SOME point), there's at least the temptation to coast, because now you've already "made it" and can afford to simply get carried by the brand buff.
Now, that's not the case for most of them, but even the most diehard fanboy should be able to admit there are at least a few bad apples who certainly put in less effort than they could. The company analogy breaks down a bit there, because in any other normal business after you get in you're still expected to produce a certain amount of quality work (and if you can't / won't deliver, that cushy six figgy job will soon be gone out again), whereas in Hololive you still have some passenger talents just hanging around, who would certainly "deserve" to free up their place to a more hard-working new applicant.

[Anonymous No.]

literally mad because others are successful lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>retard says the most obvious thing ever while labeling it as a "hot take"
>/vt/ still tries to argue against it
This thread is fucking gold.

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>>13747475
i'm happen to be a leftist cuck and i agree with connor dawg voice actor. i don't even think his choice of words was really 'wrong' or problematic, i just think hololive fanatics are deeply insecure and defensive about the biggest vtubing corporation in the industry and get triggered by basically anything.

and before the pathetic tribal accusations start flying like over half of my vtubie consumption is hololive nerds. though i do know that anything less than 100% is a cardinal sin to holo fanatics.

>>13747851
is trash taste actually that big?

[Anonymous No.]

So let me get this straight, this guy who is 5'7" with a receding hairline, no beard and a small penis (someone posted a pic of him on here in spandex the other day) who runs an anime podcast called "trash taste" wants to share his opinion on whether or not corporate vtubers have a real job? Has this guy considered just being thankful for his made up job instead?

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>>13742454
Hololive is the Vtuber equivalent of Marvel Studios at this point. People will watch all their stuff because it's Marvel, regardless of quality. Case in point: Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Iron Man 3, Thor, Thor 2.

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>>13742925
Yet they get the best 3D’s

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>>13748401
Hell yeah

[Anonymous No.]

Can we please stop posting this off topic attention seeker?
if you wanna discuss this topic do it without sucking his cock like some fanboy

[Anonymous No.]

I assume anyone that likes hololive is probably retarded but I know for a fact that anyone who listens to this guy's show is 100% retarded. Or maybe just under 25; doesn't seem to be much of a difference these days

[Anonymous No.]

>>13748511
>if you want to talk about it, you need to agree with me or else you are sucking Connor’s dick!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
>you don't have to be a good streamer, you will get success

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>>13748588
>missing the point completely
thanks for showing us you're retarded anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Show me where he said this.

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>>13747877
>there's at least the temptation to coast, because now you've already "made it" and can afford to simply get carried by the brand buff.
You can just say Kronii and Ayame instead of some bad apples

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>>13747993
The problem with Connor statement isn't that he is wrong, is how biased he is. I mean, I agree with hololive being insta success if you manage to pass the auditions, and no matter how bad you end being you will always have a huge audience and income. But this is also true for each e-celeb out there like Connor and the other TT fags. None of them are that good at creating content, they only get views at this point cuz they didn't give up and started early in the Internet. There's hololive girls that aren't that good, but neither Connor or his friends are. That's it, Connor is just some arrogant idiot who is quick at looking at other creator content flaws, but too self entitled to see his owns

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>>13748634
>vague statement with no elaboration
Thanks for showing us you’re a leftist little pimply shit anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>13747183
Not him, which one?

[Anonymous No.]

Do I care about
>stupid faggot's hot take #6279 to incite drama once again because that's all his content amounts to

No. Shut the fuck up, stop sucking off this nigger

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>>13742454
I don't even understand why people were so upset at this.
He didn't even say they weren't good, just that even if they WERE bad they'd still be popular. Which is obviously, objectively correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Learn Branding or seethe eternally. Your choice

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>>13745019
Roberu has been collabing with several popular Nijisanji members and even appeared on a show together with Mito. How is those not meaningful connections?

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>>13748756
nice insult dumbass, give your keyboard to you're mom next time

you can agree with this man anon, he ain't wrong, just don't give him your ass because you're seemingly gay for him

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>>13748815
The implication would be that there ARE bad streamers in hololive, otherwise why would you think that if they were bad the brand would save them?

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>>13744575
Ok, here's him and Ironmouse reacting to this and laughing at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysjr7oBjYMM
It's very out of context, because it was about lying on a job application and neither of them agree with this portion by itself.
>>13742454

Last time this quote/clip got posted here, everyone laughed at OP and the drama twitter account who clipped it
and now we're being dimwits actually discussing it like it matters.

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>>13748721
You know nothing about youtube. Youtubers need to constantly adapt and change their content or they end up with a dying channel. which is probably what’s going to happen to the entirety of hololive because it’s a big conservative japanese company which refuse to innovate

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>>13744469
Uhhh? I want to know more

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>>13747993
I think the worst part of it is that he wasn't talking to his peers, but trying to get a "rival" to acknowledge this. That's what makes him retarded in this whole situation, not the argument itself. It would be less stupid if he was saying this to Mori.

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>>13748614
>More successful than 99% of vtubers
What's your point ?

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>>13746221
Cause he gay and stuff

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone here who watches trash taste sell me on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13748957
Come on, we are not talking about doing a PhD. I am not saying it's easy, neither is joining an agency like hololive. Read again my comment keeping what I just said desu

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>>13748906
>nice insult dumbass, give your keyboard to you're mom next time
Hoes mad

And no one is being gay for him, you’re just mad that OP used the perfect Connor reaction image. It’s a good reaction pic by itself.

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>>13748957
>Youtubers need to constantly adapt and change their content or they end up with a dying channel.
At best they have to adapt title and thumbnails and don't say a few words that anger the algorythm, but none of the big youtuber innovate for shit because they don't need to

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>>13748957
>Youtubers need to constantly adapt and change their content
Yeah, to satisfy youtube's algorithm. Viewer tastes aren't any different from what they were 10 years ago and a lot of people are even annoyed by every channel copying an algorithm friedly format when it doesn't fit the video content.

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>>13749112
Hoes are usually mad
And I will admit it’s a great image, I just literally hate Connor, I have no other politics

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>>13747877
>The company analogy breaks down a bit there, because in any other normal business after you get in you're still expected to produce a certain amount of quality work (and if you can't / won't deliver, that cushy six figgy job will soon be gone out again)
*laughs in Sayo and Gilzaren*

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>>13742454
Imagine taking the bait and listening to some normie that aren't really anime fans.

I mean look at him, total normie.

[Anonymous No.]

>ugly manlet holds glass of wine as he fluoride stares past camera
>great image

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>>13742454
Where's the source, faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749129
>>13749121
>implying pewdiepie would still be a massive YouTuber if he kept playing happy wheels and screamed into his mix playing amnesia

Go to bed gramps

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745145
If I got on my knees my head about be at his chest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749182
There we go. There is your persona shadow. You fucking hate connor

[Anonymous No.]

>>13746642
>>13748876
Astel and Roberu are also the biggest stars, even though the latter has fallen off a bit at this point. I don't see how you disproved my point of collabs being the moneymaker.

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>>13744417
Anon. You are basically saying that Cover dod in fact have a set of qualifications that they were looking for that the talent obviously fit. It still doesn't really change the fact that the talent can just fake their shit and pretend to know shit and is expect greatness since they're in Hololive now. That has never been true for any of the talents that they have right now. Any buff you see right now is superficial. It goes away after a month or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749334
What has done PewDiePie which is truly creative? Also, using the most subscribed YouTuber is a little bit unfair

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>>13749063
It's 3 friends, who shit talk each other a lot and have trash taste in food, sometimes anime.

Like with vtubers, just watch some clips, see if you like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnKL3WtgEfE

They started just as the vtuber boom was taking off in the west and along with other parallels they ended up sharing audience a lot. That's why people keep posting them here.

Also, there's the weeb dream

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>>13749334
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJj91yPSruvqylY9WEsQCiw/videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749063
if you like Nux then you'd love TT

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744469
>>13744797
>>13745238
At least something came up from jannietrannies incompetence.

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>>13749460
Also, despite leaving in Japan they don't know japanese at the slightest (aside from joey for obvious reasons). Are you the kind of people who says that Mori no nihongo is shit? Gigguk is unable to read fucking hiragana. They are truly profesional aren't they.

[Anonymous No.]

This was 4th fastest thread on the board. Daily reminder that if you posted in this thread you are unironic cancer. Kys, go >>>/back/ or whatever you fucking tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything he said is completely true. Even people like Anya who are relatively "unsuccessful" in the context of Hololive are making top tier incomes for their country.

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>>13749063
Watch the noriyaro episode

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>>13748933
Because that's how big brands work in general? You don't have to have an example from the actual company to see the pattern in similar ones.
Also I mean, we KNOW the instant success thing is true. People love Holomem sight unseen, so even if you think all the current ones are good it's inarguable that yeah, IF one was bad they'd still instantly be in the top 1% of streamers.

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>>13749460
I'm watching this clip and as an American with British family, snore. Watching non-Americans talk about how insane the US is is quaint; we all know. We all know and we live here. If you're going to do this bit at least get some good material. The two who aren't Connor seem very anxious for his approval.

>>13749566
That is absolutely pathetic.

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>>13749429
I'm >>13746642
Besides your point about collab being important, which I agree with, you also said that the stars were unable to make connections outside of the group and that management was restricting their collabs

[Anonymous No.]

value is subjective, deserving is created by demand
COPE!.

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>>13749468
Post it so i can press on it i don’t want to copy it like a peasant (phoneposting)
>>13749440
His filthyfrank phase in 2017 was the best era ever. I still laugh my ass off at the first response to the wsj drama shit https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGX2mJ6IbS0&feature=share 11:10

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742538
>They shit on Hololive
Give me ONE example of Connor shitting on Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749642
I'm good, I looked it up and the thumbnails and other related videos turned me off completely

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>>13749334
>Changing which videogame he plays or which subject he does talking videos about is somehow creative, while holding live concerts, game shows, releasing original songs/MVs, making animated shorts, a horror series and whatever the fuck jumanji shit Fan Fun Island was is stagnant.

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>>13750042
He should really learn more Japanese.

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>>13749614
You don't get it anon.
None of these people are tourists.
This has become a dramaslut containment thread.

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>>13742538
Calli values these faggots more than her friends, coworkers, job and fans, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/cdawgva/clip/DependablePlausibleMonitorSeemsGood-ws0fxLpn6_kzrWL8

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750181
That would require effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750181
I can not imagine moving to a country and not learning the language the people who live there speak. I can understand not speaking the language as a tourist, but what is the point of moving somewhere if you can't get to know anyone that lives there?

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>>13750262
Unless he's being extremely self deprecating with the "ZERO japanese" statement, it really doesn't require much effort. You have to put in effort to get good at it, but you need to be retarded to be surrounded by the language every day and learn nothing.

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>>13750182
/vtg/ can't come soon enough. Clipwatchers are the lowest of the lows.

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>>13750085
He did the youtube highschool series and the ”my new car” video where he poked fun at youtubers who flex their rich lifestyle. Felix has done all kinds of videos. Respect the true elder of youtube and don’t ever compare him to your whores the who leeches the 10 paypigs and releases mediocre vocaloid song covers. It’s obvious you spent your whole life on this shitty imageboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749222
i think with early nijis it's less that analogy applies there, and more that they applied for the free iphone kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750371
Are you a tourist threadwatcher anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13743077
Wasn't he only relying on amogus gameplay or something after quitting homostars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750327
Not much effort is more than zero effort, the kind of gaijin that would stay in japan with zero japanese clearly doesn't care about putting the effort to learn the language since the locals are the ones putting the effort to cater to them

[Anonymous No.]

Yo, busta-petra here.
You best be checkin yo ass before I shiggidy diggidy yo spinny ass checkkabox thinka.
Go to steam, Bustafellows ya heard. Best game out there, make me pengy heart doki doki ya know.
Don'ts know much about dis connor ting but ye heard hololive and me tinks not good yea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750566
No i simply spent my time watching youtube and browsing /pol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749334
It makes me sad looking at former popular youtubers with 1mil subs but barely any views. But this is what happens when they're still doing the same shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742715
thats literally how a successful brand works

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744013
Not sure what you're talking about, Miko is very much enjoying that success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750703
I only recently realised Glas Refelction was still making videos. I kind of felt sad seeing how irrelevant he is now.

[Anonymous No.]

why is this thread still up

[Anonymous No.]

This is the first time I'm reading the quote from him and, yeah, I don't think he's wrong at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13750703
Even worse was seeing a youtuber I remember wtaching over 10 years ago with double digit viewers is still making videos with double digit viewers. Mabye I should just respect the commitment and williningess to keep doing what he likes without caring about viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749969
Apart from the audio to text spread the OP posted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742547
the topic is related and It's been 4 hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>13748946
>"It's whatever, I don't really give a shit. They can be mad"
>plays clip on stream to solicit opinions and reactions from his guest and chatroom

[Anonymous No.]

What was the actual point of saying what Connor said TO MOUSEY who ACTIVELY and seemingly eternally is trying to get in good with Hololive. He could have said it to Veibae with 0 worry about backlack.
Was he trying to torpedo her efforts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
more like they are talented in some way, so they are chosen, you don't have to be a great streamer

[Anonymous No.]

What are your favorite TrashTaste episodes?

I like the ones with Chris Broad in them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454

[Anonymous No.]

Serious question, how did Connor move to Japan from the UK? Was he making a living streaming before he moved there or did he manage to save enough to move there while working a regular job before he got there? I only know about him from this board and the occasiobal YouTube recommendation but he doesn't seem to have a day job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
They succeeded the audition.

And if auditions are being done right, auditions are a sign of future success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751222
Kadokawa wanted to do a podcast and anime man chose him and gigguk to go to Japan. He spent a lot of time at cons sucking dick to get where he is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751241
>And if auditions are being done right, auditions are a sign of future success
Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742672
>Anya
Hololive can't fix stupid that debuffs itself
>Homos
They're on the rise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751312
Sana can't help her model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
This logic makes no sense.
Firstly you will need to audition and likely have some kind of experience even if it isn't in v-tubeing. Secondly you can't say someone didn't work hard, they would have had to work though the audition process, which you will need at least some aptitude to get though. You might not need to be a good streamer but you would at least need the potential to be one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751268
Ah, I didn't know the podcast was a Kadokawa venture. It seems that his corporate backing has brought him greater success than he could've hoped to find than with an independent podcast

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742672
Anya seems to enjoy a smaller audience, she's done everything in her power to stay sub 1k despite her random hiccups of getting 2k+

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751312
EN auditions are run like shit, whoever scouts for JP clearly doesn't have any involvement with the EN scoutment

[Anonymous No.]

Did Connor ever graduated from college and got his engineering degree?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751222
He was a niche but successful YouTuber, who specialised in fujos with Anglo fever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751535
Well Kadokawa also sponsors his work visa, so he literally is joined at the hip without any other options. He can’t go indie even if he wants to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751502
Gyaro isn't even that bad, her hekkin ded doggerino did a major debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745311
>>13745238
Doesnt matter! I'll twist this shit into rrat like never before!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13744560
So people that were passed over in a previous audition and are picked up in another are objectively inferior to previous applicants they may have had to compete against?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751312
Nepotism hires don’t have an audition

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751520
in the text op is showing he is only saying you don't have to be a good streamer. nothing more and it seems you agree
>You might not need to be a good streamer
Everything else about not working hard is something that came out of your mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>13747993
>is trash taste that big?
it's big, but I don't know how the fuck that anon thinks it's the biggest podcast on YT

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751728
Explain Kiara, wasn't she seemingly well known before she applied?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751584
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, management just decides who win the audition using RNG, instead of looking at their portfolio
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752392
Would explain all of HoloCouncil with maybe Bae as an exception

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752038
Sana got in due to her connections with Ina since they are friends and not based on her audition tape. Back during en gen 2 auditions, a lot of peoples applications weren’t even opened. Kiara didn’t know anyone in the company to have gotten her in, and had to depend on her own audition. Not the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751535
>It seems that his corporate backing has brought him greater success than he could've hoped to find than with an independent podcast
10/10 Connor btfo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751962
Because it is as JRE moved to spotify

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Stop posting with normies pic in the header, you fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
They just debuted, anon. They literally only have subs and views right now, both of which aren't set in stone. You can lose them just as quickly as you gain them. The 6th gen will have to prove they're good enough to keep the numbers, which isn't guaranteed. Look how hard 5th gen tanked, not to mention EN 2nd gen and ID as a whole.

The only advantage in debuting in Hololive is that you get a lot of attention. If you're shit, you're showing to a lot of fucking people how shit you are. It's a double-edged sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752460
Sana has a unique voice, is a good streamer, very good artist, good singer. She is a pretty good choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13751717
Not gonna pretend to know what metrics they use to evaluate but I'm sure it's more than "good/bad"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752038
Yeah in fact she has direct work experience as an idol. Regardless on if someone is a nepotism hire or not in order to get in Hololive you have to at least be established in some form of content creation in order to have a chance to get in and be professional enough to be selected. Sana at the very least has a resume of professional work experience and is established as an artist who gets commissioned by various companies to do artwork. It's impossible to get in if you have literally no experience as a content creator or an absolute disaster of a human being like Pantsu Party.

As much as people like to shit on Council each girl at least has a sizable portfolio to show which qualifies them more than some random no name on the street or a person whose a ticking timebomb of a yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752634
also your voice and personality has to be close to what they have in mind, cause the character is already made.

[Anonymous No.]

If you spend all day on /vt/ talking about this faggot, be it negatively or possitively, you're part of the problem.
Who the fuck cares what this who says? just ignore his existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752455
Except they all have portfolio, they're just automatically shit because they're EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752903
he is pretty well know now. maybe they will forget him next year with the amount of newfags coming, but not as much cause connor is getting more famous day by day

[Anonymous No.]

>>13749429
>Roberu has fallen off
No, Rob just stop pandering to EoP because he realised how fickle they are. He also dial back streaming for dance
and singing lesson. Meanwhile Astel who goes full EoP pandering get views only for Apex and Karaoke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
Was he the guy talking to Ironmouse, and Ironmouse was like. Nah we moving on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13745833
Oh. Is that why he hates Hololive? Because Ame didn't suck his dick for being in her chat?

[Anonymous No.]

>So something like the LA Lakers is a good example of this, it's always instant success, you don't have to be a good player, you will get success, you will get money, because of you're part of the LA Lakers. You'll get a lot more money than most people will see in their lifetime monthly, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13752903
also you can deny that anons on /vt/ are really interested on connor, just look at the number of posters

[Anonymous No.]

>>13753333
I think there just is something intense about him. Something no other man has. Something that kinda makes me want to suck his dick despite being a straight man my whole life. I think the antis keep giving him attention on purpose because they are tsundere

[Anonymous No.]

This is the thread that finally got me to watch this guy and he sucks. Everything I dislike about weebs in the west crystallized into one person. I'll do the other metaposting anons a favor and not engage with any connorposting in the future but today I was hungry for knowledge

[Anonymous No.]

>>13742454
the future king of Vtubers... I KNEEL

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>>13753548
It only countrys if you try watching trash taste, his stream highlights channel and his main channel. If you did all that. I kneel

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>>13742454
So what was his point here?

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>>13753727
Counts*

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>>13753548
Of course, he sucks. He's the most casual one out of the Trash Taste guys by far. He's the one who never knows anything so Gigguk and Joey have to explain everything to him. He's also the one with the worst takes. He argued that him being there generates discussion, which may be true, but it also prevents them from every getting into any in-depth discussions. I don't get why would get any praise on any board in 4chan.

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>>13742454
how the hell did such a basic ass take spawn a 300 reply thread?

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>>13753830
eigo

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>>13753750
They were talking about how important applications are for jobs and how once you get your foot in you are usually fast-tracked to success, and he brought up Hololive as an example

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>>13753790
80% of /vsj+/ adores the guy

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>>13752553
>Sana has a unique voice
There's unique voice like Luna and there's a unique voice coupled with a fucking aussie accent

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>>13753880
I'm not surprised

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Passing the audition means they’re the best

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>>13753727
Nope, just watched some trash taste highlights and it was some of the most uninteresting podcasting I've experienced to date. Guy's body language and personality are offputting and he gets -1000 points from me for being an "I said this, but what I was really trying to say was this" guy

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>instant success
100% wrong. They spent months preparing for their debuts and talking to their managers and genmates. It may be the boring part of being an entertainer, but it's necessary legwork.

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>>13754191

Not to mention having to show out among literal hundreds of thousands of competitors. You have any idea how many literal who 2view tryhards probably apply to be in Hololive these days? Simply coming out on top of that mountain pretty much IS the proving ground, we just don’t see it on this side. You imagine they just showed up and got it when in reality they basically just won a world tournament

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>>13742454
This never happens anywhere else.
Oh wait.
>musicians and record labels
>books and book publishers
>movie stars and talent agencies
>developers and game publishers
>streamers and agencies/groups
>channels with low subscriber counts and boring podcasts about nothing
>OPs and dicks

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>>13754334
And why are the auditions so hard? Cause you're guaranteed success in Hololive at this stage

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>>13754451
Which then comes full circle back to connor’s point which is ”everyone lies on job interviews because it’s in your best interest to do so”

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>>13754416
>OPs and dicks
many such cases

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>>13754644
Aaaand that's what the trial and prep time is for to make sure you didn't lie about everything. You guys are going in circles.

Connor's take is dumb because he doesn't know shit about anything, much less hololive.

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>>13754451

The more candidates you’re going up against for the opportunity, the higher the bar required to stand out. You have to WIN the guaranteed success over everybody else who wants it.

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Another irrelevant e-celeb still up for 4 whole hours. Current jannies are fucking worthless