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General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
Highest monetization stream>1. Lauren Iroas - $59,765 - 02:06:02>2. Leos Vincent - $54,968 - 00:59:46>3. Laplus Darknesss - $52,204 - 00:58:27>4. Kiryu Coco - $52,179 - 01:04:26>5. Ouro Kronii - $46,659 - 02:00:24
so how is the koyote sc game doing currently?
>>14287775$28k
>>14287683Coco is still the supreme queen of hololive
>>14287775Around 3M yen by now i guess
Doubt she'll hit 34k
>>14287611Did you just bump a bunch of threads to kill the old numbers thread?
>>14287787Better than I expected...since is like only half the viewers compared to purple brat stream
>>14287799Nah.. this is >>14287787 enough. Just need lui-nee to hit 20k+ to get that 100k across the board noomba
11k waiting for Shion yo...
Shion yo may not get the gold today...
>>14287791So the Playboard number is inaccurate?
>>14287791>nice bait 5thgen/EN/Fauna/Subaru/Miko schizo
>>14287813Is that what happened?
>>14287863The differences between currency also can be an issue too.
>>14287791Los Angeles+ did not disappoint. Kaichou would be proud.
>>14287878Last I checked we were 12 threads from getting kicked off. And then suddenly this thread was created and we were kicked off in less than 5 minutes, so yeah I think that's what happened.
>>14287871At this rate just call them Hololiveschizo
Anyone below this post that talks about anitubers will die in their sleep. No immunity korone (she's on extended hiatus)
>>14287863Could be due to different yen to USD conversion rates.
$600 to beat Mori and $1k to beat Lain, she should do it with a few akas at the end
>>14287863conversion rates and i think playboard can take a while to fully update
retard dog overlapped
How many supas is Koyori at?
Oh no. She's promoting Shion's live.
>>1428803520k
>>14288025>literally shilled the brithday before endingall is well anon
She made it to $30k!
30k for pink cat, funneling to Shion now
Verse... I don't feel so good
>>14288043I-ILLEAGAL
>>14288025it's fine, rather Shion started way too early, I expected 2-3minutes loading screen
>>14287862Wait until Pekora shows up
>>14288043TUT TUT
>>142880353.4M yen.
>>14288112Birthday, 3D Live, Pekora, Marine. It's a free gold.
>>14288098Considering youtube purges waiting room views so hard, it's probably a good thing audiences came in after the show went Live.
>>14288091
>>14288091Poor girls..
What is a website where i can check stream top view count, cant really find it
The numberrot is accelerating
mafumafu couldn't save tokyo ghoul oh no
qrd on funneling vs box pushing
How's the numbers in the shop next door anontachi?
>>14288091Blame Cover for killing them by debuting a new gen so close and stealing all the tourists away.
>>14288091Jesus fucking Christ, Sony. I know you got a tax write-off excuse if it fails; just pump money on ads and give them a chance...
50k shion
>Ez 50kAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>14288173You mean peak CCV? Playboard, assuming they're tracked there (and not Hololive) or Holostats, if they're Hololive. Nijimado also keeps track of peaks but its less pleasing to the eye vs holostats.
>>14288149If they knew what happened to Luna and decides to join anyway it's their own fault.
Damn, looking at Hololive now. They've really come far. When Myth 3D debut hits, there's gonna be a lot of renewed interest of people watching vtubers again or gaining new viewers. By next year, I wonder how many people would audition to become a Holo. You don't even need to be a great singer or gamer. Just be a great entertainer. Even being an ID already gives you a salary above a local doctor or a surgeon.
>>14288193>Welcome Tourist-kun>FunnelingWhen the other holo finished stream and direct their viewers to other holo (kinda like raid)>Box pushingWhen the more popular holo promote/push other or each other to promote incline
60k instantaneously holy fuck
>>14288226Box is too strong
Shion 61k get
Highest vtuber monetization streams of all time>1. Lauren Iroas - $59,765>2. Leos Vincent - $54,968>3. Laplus Darknesss - $52,204>4. Kiryu Coco - $52,179>5. Ouro Kronii - $46,659>6. Hakui Koyori - $30,168>7. Lain Paterson - $29,208>8. Mori Calliope - $28,844>9. Amane Kanata - $25,221>10. IRyS - $24,302>11. Gawr Gura - $22,625>12. Watson Amelia - $22,049
im not seeing alot of color in chat. ohnononono premature bros?
>>14288226I hope next year HoloEN just open audition all year round or just straight up scouting instead of open audition for certain time period
60k. Shion is getting that gold.
>>14288223Thanks anon, always wanted to be a proper numberfag.
wtf 60k already
>>14288226I don't think just 3D alone can renew people's interest. They need a full concert.
>>14288091Sorry, it was unfair for me to use the numbers 1 min after it started. Here is a better look 10 min in.
>>14288250You make it sound like funneling is a direct thing they tell their audience to do. Most of the time this isn't the case and is mostly a passive thing they do with clever schedule building and ending/starting streams right as somebody else is ending/starting.
Shion getting the gold without a guest on screen. Some anon should leave this thread and never come back, I wont even link you, you aren't even worthy of that.
>>14288193>spoonfeedingI'll bite the (You) I guess.>funnelingHolding an audience captive and transferring it to another peer stream, either during or at the end of their stream.>box pushingThe "box" refers to a group/organization (Hololive) where the more popular members are used to promote the less popular members or the brand itself. Funneling is also a form of box pushing, since it also helps boost the popular talents and important events.
>>14288226>When Myth 3D debut hitsNever at this rate, Cover should have made a workaround long ago, good thing Ame decided to take things on her own hands. Not having periodic 3D events hurt EN a lot.
65k Ahoy
>>14288193Funnelling = guide or channel views through (directing to something)Box = group i.e. hololive, nijisanjiBox pushing = promoting the entire company equally (holo promotes another)Hakooshi = supporting multiple oshis
Seems like 65k is the top for Shion
>>14288285How much would Laplace have got if she ran another hour? Another 15-20k?
>>14288295HoloEN needs a new gen like right now. Council debut started to revitalize the branch, but then they wasted it all by not streaming. They need people to actually fill timeslots if they want to start growing again.
>>14288389No one peaks 12 minutes in
>>142883042 60k streams? This is fucking bullshit! How is Niji supposed to compete? Holofags are sucking all the fun out of the rivalry, not even Kuzuha is relevant anymore with these numbers every fucking night
>>14288402Just need another vsinger apparently
>>14288389You hit your head anon?
>>14288347Good thing your didn’t link it. This thread tourists would cause it to spike and go down again. I remember back in the ooooold days of /b/ when anons would coordinate to watch some “10 views VOD” from some girl or another for a couple of weeks, boosting it to (let’s say) 1k. Then stop doing it, and lurking for the broken heart reaction. It was as evil as it was fun
70k is possible.
How many subs did Coco have when she opened the monetization ?+ Compared to Lauren's subs.
>>14288402Not only are you being the council schizo right in the middle of these amazing stream numbers right now but you are also doing it after Council had a pretty damn good day with 2 streams well over 10k. Maybe take the day off for once, my god.
>>14288402This is the strategy that put 80% of Nijisanjis talent in the grave or on life support.
>>14288433>>14288442FUCKI saw it dipped a bit a premature calledI will now commit sudoku to clear my name
You guys are going too low. Shion will get 80k.
>>1428844871k now
Shion 70k
do the people watching this Live get funneled?
>70K70K>70K70K>70K70K>70K70K
>>14288456>2 streams over 10k is a good day for HoloENNiji tier. HoloJP is over here pulling 5 streams over 30k and EN can't even manage one?
such a tough fight
>>14288469The Niji strategy isn't so much about the amount of talent they debut but the frequency at which they do, which make their debuts lose value and gives little time for their talent to build a loyal audience.
>>14288371Pretty sure they could use their 3D models for VRChat where everyone could join in like RBC and Watson. They just need to 3D debut first and make the first a special.
>>14288522Straight to Lui monetization
ENTER PEKO
>>14288534Hololive EN is a black company.
ENTER NUMBERSAGI>Let's see if it can reach 75k before pekora's part ends
>starting with marine and pekorazion, you need to tease more
>>14288456I personally have no problem with Council, I like them more than Myth. But you can't deny that they didn't do their job, especially after witnessing HoloX doing it right. There is a place for niche streamers like Council, if you have more heavy hitters actually bringing attention to the branch.
>>14288574
75k now, at least 80k possible ?
>>14288587Reached immediately lol
>>14288556Which is why we won't see a HoloEN gen 3 until I say......May at soonest. Like, maybe we get auditions opened sometime at the start of next year, perhaps announce it right after HoloFes3 if they want to really stack some buffs, not like they need it for recruitment interest, though that would put the gen debut sometime in Octoberish.
>>14288587 (me)>>14288609Wtf i swear it's just 71k when i started typing this post.
>>14288456Actually 3 , 3/5(60%) of total streams.
>What's the tittle of this song rn?I used to listen to it but forgot the tittle
>>14288402Kek adding more lazy whores.
>>14288608Possibly, she's still got 30ish minutes and she's got good velocity in viewergain for now.
>>14288635だるで サンドストーム
>>14288622The captcha takes to long
80k is out of reach. 78k is the cap
>>14288635Shiroi Yuki no Princess waYeah, nostalgic. Lamy sang it recently at someone's 3D live, I think it was Marine.
>>14288655Thanks anon chu~
This might be the peak, depending on how many rabbitfags fuck off after the song ends.
>>14288456>>14288632Oh you mean Council only, than 2/4 (50%)
>80KSasuga numbers rabbit
80k get
Imagine predicting below 80k when Marine and Pekora were gonna show up lol
>14288668Let's not burn through 200+ posts entertaining obvious (you) fishers people!
> streaming during the 3d live with literally 500 ccv.Iofi...
>>14288668The fuck are you talking anon?
>>14288669 (me)Yeah dammit how can i forgot the tittle
>>14288677kek classic nousagi
>>14288618If they want to debut them by summer, they need to announce them this month so that they have time to sift through thousands of applications over the next three-to-four months.
peko
>>14288668Anon, I ...
80k
90k in reach?
82k now
>>14288739idk, she burned her 2 biggest guests right at the beginning
>>14288739If the nousagitachi stay yes. I have no idea how many fandead will show up next.
>>14288392Definitely more than Lauren that's for sure.
Can niji get bronze today?
>>14288739Nah 90k is out of reach XD
Peko and Shion talking and Peko roasting her about forgetting their collabs got an extra 2k viewers than the singing kek
>>14288777no
numbersagis...
>>14288762You forgot about Gawr Gura.
>>14288435>How is Niji supposed to compete?Kuzuha just needs to make a tournament, in a desert island while he sings King.
>>1428877745K or No
>>14288777They need to beat 44.9k to be bronze anon.
>>14288803OMG, I don't know who to be pissed at (cover or the japanese government) but fuck them for EN not having 3D yet. That would be kino as fuck if she was there.
>>14288777They don't even have a chance of top 5 anon.
>niji numbersSoraru, mafufu, soulsbourne and pokemon permissions are wasted on these faggots
95k combined CCV for Niji JP (26 streams)
>>14288809>>14288806With numbers like this people will begin to have their perceptions warped until 30k streams feel like disappointments.
85-85k G E T
85k then
Is 90k possible?
85k going into Phony.Now leave all you falseflagging kneel baiters.
>>14288850Please tell me Kuzuha broke past 20k atleast.
>>14288850Toothpase hair is about the only girl on the Niji roster that still gets respectable numbers isn't she?
Oh no nousagis are leaving
>>14288881No. Pegor leaves I leave.
>Peko out>Numbers down
>>14288858Can Shion beat it with a single stream?
>>14288858Damn, a bit higher than shion
EN contribute anything today?
Fucking Nousagis, atleast watch until the end
Numbersagis left
Why are nousagis like this?
>>14288881i'd say no, peaked 85k for a bit, 83.702 now on my machine
>>14288862Are you implying that 30k isn't a disappointment?
>>14288926>>14288930Chumbuds of JP
>>14288850Ill never understand fromsoft
>>14288858>Fuwaggot is clickbaiting hard with that thumbnail>still can't hit 10kMan, just close Nijisanji at this point. Put them out of their misery.
>>14288934hey, I'm the resident nousagi in this thread and I'm still watching. #notallnousagi.
>>14288925Sana Ame and Kiara are the only ones with frames up and they're all stuff that's gonna get small numbers. No clue on everyone else.
>>14288456>2 streams well over 10k>good daywwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>14288976you are the 32% anon...
>>14288944They really aren't. They are at least loyal to their chuuba, unlike chumbuds who abandoned her.
>>14288934Can hire a girl like Shion in nipland, can't easily find a girl like Pekora
>>14288944Chumbuds won't even show up for Gura on any other channel, anon. I don't think they even know anyone other than her exists outside of her channel.
>>14288944I mean yes, just like with Kuzuha, Peko being yhe top vtuber has a lot of people (and kids) that only watch her for being the top.
>>14288944Chumbuds don't watch collab that is not on gura's channel.
Huh she should have split the guests better. Why have Marine and Pekora in a row then two solo songs.
We Nousagi at least watch everything and everywhere Pekora is at, unlike chumbuds who only visit her channel.
>>14289007Kuzuha is not a top vtuber.
>>14289018Chumbuds don't watch her period, this is why she has over triple the subs of the average holo but gets mogged by almost all of them daily
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UX4y1g7ftYamada SOUL dancing...
>>14288925Kronii, Mumei
>>14288850mafumafu is a lame fraud. First he was booted out of the Vocaloid community and after that he just hopped from trend to trend. The biggest one being Kpop since he so badly desires to be Korean. He copied the Kpop asian femboy look down to a T but he failed at that too. Since he is nothing more than an untalented trend hopping fraud he is now trying to cross his own personal rubicon and declare imperium over vtubing.Luckily for us though the greater vtuber fanbase isn't as incompetent as Pompey and we will crush mafumafu's rebellion.
>>14289057>BilibiliNice try zhang you're not getting spyware on my PC that easily
>>14289057>bilibili
>>14289057>Bilibili
>>14289057Bugtube?Really?
>>14289071Anon... this is the 481928912381924 times you post this...ENTER LUCIA
ENTER RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>3D Live>not even 90kGraduation when?
>>14289057How much social credit do you get for a click?
Singing stops numbers go up. Guessing people tab out while the song is playing then come back in anticipation of the next guest.
>>14289071I swear I've seen this exact post before
>>14289057
85k. Guess people tap back in
>>14289112Enough to join Holo?
>>14289059Watched Mumei today, nice voice, need more training with my cock but she's fine, I think she's a good adition to the group
All her guests are around as short as her. This was the sole factor in choosing guests and I won't take my meds.
>>14289159Holo related? then -999999999
>>14289183the IMAGINE concert
>>14288456>Council had a pretty damn good day with 2 streams well over 10k.Is this a joke? I really hope it is.
Has Nijisanji even medaled this month?Also 85k isn't that bad, it could be worse, it could be worse.
>leeching mafumafu and soraru>not even 30kgraduation when ?
So, the fact that numbers rise immediately when a new guest shows up and drop once they leave means that all this people are having the tab opened in the background, but Youtube doesn't count it as a view because it's minimized or whatever? So it's like 10-15k people who are not counted as viewers despite watching the stream?
>>14289183Lap+/ shion Collab confirmed
>>14289057Thanks, unsubscribed.
>>1428920086k now, okayu is one of the guest left right ?
>>14289200Maybe. Theres lots of places like this where people will say things like "Rushia has joined" though
>>14289198The last one didn't reach 70k. Getthat numbersrott out of your brain and see that 85k is huge.
>>14289057She is so thinPlease eat well tonight
>>14289075>>14289082>>14289085>>14289095>>14289112I just like yamada.
>>14289229Yep. The other may show up again.
>>14289122Anon....It's basically tradition for that one dude to trot out the mafumafu copypasta anytime he gets mentioned.
>>1428920010-15k is a completely made up number. But yes your point is correct.
>>14289229I'm waiting for Akushion...
>>14289200More or less. Not sure of the actual percentages or amount of people tabbed out though. It could be low enough to be insignificant or a lot.
>>14289200Yes, people tab out during songs
>>14289241Why is she covering all her skins
>>14289197Anon, just because numberrot has overtaken your mind, doesn't discount that over 10k is a solid enough number for a stream.
>>14289241well protip don't use bilibili next time, this place unironically would rather click on an FC2 link than a bilibili one.
>>14289274She is tsukino mito
>>14289256there will be no aqua today
>>14289252It's around 10k if you combine all the people who left immediately after Pekora showed up and joined immediately after Rushia showed up.
>>14289278>10k is a solid enough number>solid enoughNumberrotchama...
>>14289057Wait... so they still watch hololive despite everything? or is just taiwan and hong kong?
>>14289296Those eyes are brown, Mito has blue eyes.
>>14289309 (me)*immediately after Pekora left.Had a brainfart there.
87k
>>14289322Sounds like sora
>>14289197What more do you want the only girl can hit 20k in normal streams is Gura the rest can´t, that how is EN right now.
>>14289200No real evidence for this, it's likely phone watchers.
>pantsu shotI-is that still allowed?
>>14289316>>14289197>>14288534ENschizo Kek
>>14289316Look, 10k is as much as it is nowadays, HoloJP has rotted me to the core since they've gotten so many 10k+ streams on a regular basis. Anything less isn't midget territory, but it certainly becomes 'not worth mentioning' in the context of Hololive. Note that last bit, CONTEXT OF HOLOLIVE. I'm well aware of the state of vtubing outside of Niji/Holo and that many an indie would shank a bitch for a chance at 3k+ audience on the regular.
Enter FAT CAT90k HERE WE GO
>>14289352>What more do you wantTo be honest? For them to rival Holojp numberwise.
Nousagis already at the waiting room.Go to Shion's 3D Stream fuckers! She deserves 90k
lol mafu and soraru arent even streaming their povs on that splatoon collab
>>14289274>he doesn't knowJaps can identify you by looking at the pattern shown by the pores in your skin or the light reflected in your eyes
>>1428927810k is solid only if HoloEN get it
>>14289200I tuned it when hlgg was spamming enter pekora
>>14289237It doesn't seem like much to be honest. The holo footprint is over 100k at this point. An event that clears the schedule like this shouldn't be getting only 86k
>>14289423
>>14289420I only watch Pekoro.
god that deep okayu voice is fucking sexual.
>>14289309There's only a difference of 2k from when Pekora was there and 5k from when Shion was solo singing. The only way you can get 10k is by creating a random number of people you think left after Pekora left.
>>14289433>The holo footprint is over 100k at this point.No it isn’t? Other than the debuts name the streams by either major company getting over 100k since September
>>14289291All her over the top content is when she was an indie streaming on bilibili. >>14289315All gen 6 debut is fully translated and has pretty high views on bilibili.
>>14289433Shion's not even that popular, she's the postergirl for a midtier Holo.
stop replying to the schizo
>>14289430makes you wonder how well en would do if ithey were on the actual en platform (twitch) where a large chunk of the audience hangs out.Not that i'd ever wish twitch chat/culture on anyone i like.
88k get, can she get 90k?
AAAAAAAAAAAA I ALREADY FAPPED TWICE YOU DAMN KID, STOP SHAKING YOUR HIPS LIKE THAT
88k
>>14289486footprint meaning total views summed up
>>14289500Mori allowed pog to come in and leak to the rest of the branch.
>>14289500kekw anon is scared
>>14289414In the state of EN an Jp right now that is impossible.Jp out number the amount of big hitter EN have and also the amount of mid tier talent that can hit 10K is mayor in Jp an that how it is.
>>14289492She has been inclining lately
>>14289500Twitch would filter a lot of their viewers. Gura might still get 20k if she streamed there regularly but it would hurt streamers like Ina and IRyS who aren't appealing to the twitch crowd.
>>14289531>Mori brought POG to HololiveJust say you don't watch streams and be done with it.
>>14289420all me
>>14289241You are feeding the SEAdoxx xiaochink.. not cool
>>14289430It would've been solid for JP too a few months ago. These months 10k being such a flippant thing is utterly ridiculous, I feel terminal numberrot approaching.
>>14289572Everyone kind of has been, she's still outside the top 10 on the JP side as far as I know.
>>14289500-10% views most likely
>>14289596I don't watch Myth. I just know she has the pog emoji.
>>14289525That makes if even sillier. Just because people watch their preferred chuuba on their channel at the same time someone else will watch some other chuuba it doesn’t mean both will be forced to watch some event when their favorite aren’t streaming. This necessarily mean that a single stream has a lower potential for numbers than the sum of multiple simultaneous streams (this “footprint” you talk about)
I have no doubt in my mind if Sony used FGO's lore and characters to make their vtuber group but with different VAs, they'll be an instant success
look like 88.5k is the final number
>>14289351Has sora ever stream in bilibili in the past?
>>14289626I think she has been doing legit well since the depression arc ended
>>14289656
Damn Gura... you are helpless
>>14289652>FGO's lore and characters>different VAskek, imagine the rebellion from the fandom of they tried
>>14289663The shark funny soup helped
So close....
>>14289315Anonchama...The unfortunate truth for our chink-bros over in the mainland that still love Hololive is that they weren't loud enough nor strong enough to fight back against the staff in BB that wanted Hololive OUT. That doesn't stop people from posting holo-stufff regardless though, and there are still many fans present. Its just....sigh. Fucking backstabbing shitters unfortunately ruin things for everyone.
JP civil servants salary bonus payment : Dec 10Guess who has SC stream at that day ?
>>14289630You don't watch Hololive either, because it has been a thing that JP's been familiar with before Myth even got unveiled.
Damn was an easy 90k if Marine or Pekora was the last guest.
>>14289714That'd be devilish the an absurd level.>>14289492She's still in HoloJP, 90k should be the floor in the current meta.
>>14289652>with different VAsThey'd be dead in the water
>>14289714the orca...
>>14289723Aqua...
>>14289714>Friday night
https://youtu.be/_nJ8039RN6INumbers?
>>14289714Sasuga
>>14289714Ayame birthday on the 13th, they have to save until then.
>that would show our kouhais, huh?
>>14289794Stop showing your knees
>>14289752Anon, this is a boosted tourist meta due to the debuts. Tourists watch the shiny things, i.e. the loli and the orcha if the loli isn't streaming. They fuck off for the other things. Not even all Holofans watch every event.
shion phony cover announced, any predictions ?
>>142897743k
>>14289630>>14289723Here anons, so you can’t never u hear it againhttps://youtu.be/NvOHijJqups> POGCHAMP pogchamp POGCHAMP pogchamp POGCHAMP pogchamp POGCHAMP pogchamp POGCHAMP pogchamp
>>14289784Fuck Ayame, Orca is atleast hardworking. She deserves those sweet SCs.
Shoot phony cover. Will it beat sui?
>>14289752Do you think half of Holo JP would even get 60k? Aki? Mel? Roboco? Choco? Matsuri? AZKi? Floor means lowest not "almost the highest anyone gets". The floor for these type of things is like 25-30k.
>>14289774All me
>>14289784There's no way that filthy whore is inclining any further after that """return""" stream she did. The japs are starting to become aware of her real nature.
>>14289492Rare character buff
>>142897745 k maybe, time slot is pretty crowded even if the only big name is Pekora.
>>14289830It's only fine when broken englesh says it
>>14289858That's how you want it to be, not how it is.
>>14289714its also Yagoo's birthday
>>14289652No way that will work. Unless you want to see Oberon the King of Fairy ranting about BritainOr fucking Jason trashtalking other Greek heroes for being inferior to Hercules
Is Shion still the youngest holo?
>>14289821>>142898342month 1mill
>>14289714>>14289784Ayame vs New Ayame kekBoth are good at delivering tears
>>14289879To be fair, I saw nothing but intense hatred for her on 5ch, but yeah that might not be representative of the actual viewers at right.
>>14289794Wonder what our senpai got in store tomorrow. Who will the senpai send against HoloX
>>14289834Shion doesn't miss a beat with those FOTM covers. She does them all, lol.
>>14289913Eigo onegai JSL-kun
>>14289708I get it... unfortunately we only learn by losing something...
>>14289900It’s either Shion or Haachama. I have not seen convincing evidence to show Shion (as a HS dropout) would be younger than Haachama (a HS freshman or at most second year when started)
Hololive total CCV now - 0
>>14289900La+ is 4 months younger
>>14289975What went wrong.....
>>14289941You only need to know 12 and 10
>>14289957Isnt A-chan the youngest? She is a year younger than sora
>>14289975ruirui...
Final numbers. She also got 3k subs during this live, she's at 940k pretty close to Moona now.
>>14289975Lui's starting, faggot.Come give her some support
>>14289999A-chan is a hag in her heart so it doesn't count.
>>14289975Where is your Reddit Duck now?
>>14289999Anon...I...If you genuinely believe A-chan and Sora are as young as they claim, you also believe Marine is 17 years old right?
>>14290015Nah
https://youtu.be/7TCcgdMfPco
>>14289925There was quite a bit of unhappy people. She even got some flack on Reddit, which is uncharacteristic. She would need better excuses than literally nothing, if she wants to keep getting away with it.
>>14290015no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMJcqIu-EIFUCK YOU ORCA, GO FRIDAY
>>14290039Well there never any proven evidence that claim otherwise tho. And sora've been talking about school in the past
>>14289843That's the October meta, this is December. 89k feel like a solid gold but leaves a lot to be desired. 100k would make me feel better.
>>14290052Suisei's phony MV might have the most budget out of all phony covers kek.
>>14290088??? Anon...that IS friday. In both JP and EN.
WHAT'S THIS GUY'S PROBLEM!!!??
Lui is no more.
>>14289999Quads of ignoranceSora is a confirmed hag. Do your reps. Do you really believe 2 highschoolers contacted a start-up ojisan and negotiated a deal? DYRBIbtw 4chan definition of 'hag'
>>14290113I wouldn't even be surprised about that. Suisei goes hard on music.
>>14290107100k is for top dogs only.
>>14290137Yeah kek, I saw it on recommended and thought it was in an hour
Will HoloEN costume reveal bring realistic number and cure the numberrot this thread is experiencing, or will it make the numberrot worse ...
>>14289927theyre sending out mori with a new outfit, kouhais have no chance
>>14290015kek she's debuting her birb. She won't break $20k with this
>>14290145>do your repsNigga (YOU) do your reps>imagine belieb rikardofags
>18k debutHoloJP reclining...
>>14290163*Slap*Get help. The numberrot is starting to cause you to lose track of time.
>>14290167If no one in holoen gets at least 100k expect ENschizo to become completely insufferable.
>>14290039>>14290145Calm down. That rrat claiming Sora is some literal who VA at her 30s never had any actual proof except "muh similar voices" which aren't all that similar even. Sora and A-chan talked about school stuff and other things indicating their assigned age is real multiple times.
>>14290144Holy fuck the bird has full rigging? Its her superchat debut and she is pulling this stunt? It might hurt numbers but I fucking KNEEL, lol.
>>14290214Their debut time onegai.. on JST if possible
>>14290167I think it will show how much EN's audience has reclined, I think it's gonna be like -30k viewers for all except Gura who's probably gonna be around -100k
>>14290248 (me)I mean outfit reveal schedule
>>14290274And yet again Gura will get an absolutely shit outfit undeserving of the hype.
>Kuzuha mogged by a birdI don't feel so good nijibros
>>14290089>>14290241This is dumb, age is the doxx info I care about most but even I've seen sora's face. Even considering that asians look younger...
>>14290088Anon...?
>>14290167Anon, it was HoloEN that brought the numberrrot in the first place. Who expected any of them getting anywhere close to Noel or Marine outside of Gura? Who even expected Gura to basically solo Koshien 2020?
>>14290299
>>14290278mori is 23:00 jst tomorow, the others are in +2 days
>>14290248<森カリオペ(もり かりおぺ) 新衣装配信 概要>■配信時間:2021年12月9日(木)23:00~■配信ch : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_qhgtOy0dy1Agp8vkySQg<小鳥遊キアラ(たかなし きあら) 新衣装配信 概要>■配信時間:2021年12月11日(土)06:00~■配信ch : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww<ワトソン・アメリア 新衣装配信 概要>■配信時間:2021年12月11日(土)11:00~■配信ch : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyl1z3jo3XHR1riLFKG5UAg<一伊那尓栖(にのまえ いなにす) 新衣装配信 概要>■配信時間:2021年12月12日(日)06:00~■配信ch : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMwGHR0BTZuLsmjY_NT5Pwg<がうる・ぐら 新衣装配信 概要>■配信時間:2021年12月12日(日)09:00~■配信ch : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g
>>14290145this >>14290241if you actually read the nip reincarnation sites, Sora's "proof" is fucking rrat tier. Some have basically dropped that theory though it's still there for the bait I guess.
So, now is the question if Pekora sets a new trend with this stream and we'll see a lot of Exit from streams after today.
>>14290311Yeah yeah sure you are rikardo
>>14290320Why do they keep hiring this piece of shit?
>>14290145Kek, fucking reddit newfag tourists.
>rariemonn even rigged the fucking birdMy lord does Hololive put that man to work, lol
>>14290192who the fuck is ricardo u fucking spic>>14290241It's not whoever that VA is. I found her roommate channel. Same voice confirmed.
>>14290326>>14290343Thanks anon
Kuzuha lost to an alcoholic bird, wtf
>>14290388Calm down rikardo you starting to out yourself
>>14290241Noted, but I think that it's also fair to doubt they're as young as the claim. Alright, enough of this dox-indulging, Lui monetization numbers watching time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm7DGv7KnDYScreen is up
>>14290376They've worked with them mutliple times and have a good business relationship. They've worked on extremely successful VTubers [spoiledespite the pisspoor riggingr][/spoiler]. If fans didn't like it, they wouldn't keep supporting the talents obviously
>>14290407Oh no no no Nijibros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nJ8039RN6IDaisenpai ...
>>14290481she's buffed
>>14290353She didn’t start a TF2 trend so I doubt it. But I appreciate her for pulling some random ass game out of nowhere to streamA breath of fresh air
How much Lui-nee got so far?
>>14290360that doesnt make sense
>>14290514You mean Ganmo, Ganmo is streaming. Not Lui.
https://twitter.com/projectv_4/status/1468535831103111173>Yorumi Rena, Suou Patra, Oozora Subaru, Nekomata Okayu, Sister Claire
This fucking bird is comedy gold
>>14290011Will Susan backstab Shion tonight?
>>14290555Why do they keep inviting same people?
>>14290113I wonder if she just has a huge budget for the MV or if it's also a passion project with the MV person. She seems to have gotten them to work with her quite a bunch of times (even before she inclined)
>>14290612It's been different each time I'm pretty sure
Honestly, I'm really waiting for Ludwig or Valkyrae to notice and acknowledge Hololive and not just Gura. If anything, their reactions would be too good and the exposure means more people would watch EN.
>>14290449>If fans didn't like it, they wouldn't keep supporting the talents obviouslyI don't know, anon. It's like you forgot how displeased fans were that they basically raised a stink about it. I wouldn't be surprised if they still talk about it even in the Holo subreddit (but that place is moderated with an iron fist, so who knows).
Hololive has too many viewers
>>14290569But it doesn't bring numbers.Lui has it the worse, people have splurged on 3 events already and it's getting late.
>>14290555>UNITYother than that, what is this even?
>>14290626I doubt they will, I'm pretty sure they stream on completely different times from JP prime time
On a less important note, Sora view is impressive; I thought pokemon is a debuff for unpopular member
>>14290626The globalhomo Anglo empire and it's thralls will never recognize the superior Japanese-Western synthesis that is Hololive.
>>14290659>Lui-nee always get the short end of the sticks..
>>14290666Paid cable show basically, check the account, it'll tell you everything you need to know.
>>14290666Tripschama, that's a cross-company live.
>>14290679Seems like it's a buff for anyone who legitimately likes Pokémon
>>14290679Pokemon is a buff for jp. Not so much the west unkess you are doibg some gimmick
>>14290679Her collab with IRyS was so good that it buffed her.
>>14290167The EOP audience has decreased, they needed a 10 POV Collab to break 100k. The only hope is the curiosity of jpbros to save the day.Mori's strem will be in the weekend for the JP audience and she is hyping it with a few announcements. My bet is 70k~90kGura is too famous to fail at getting +100k.Ame, Kiara and Ina won't get more than 70k
>>14290659That's why Chloe was smart and moved the stream to another day.
>>14290618she said that she doesn't look at the prices anymore
>>14290679It's a buff for JP. Although I have no idea what is a buff for EN other than Minecraft.
>>14290659Maybe she isnt that entertaining unlike lap+ and chloe.
>>14290744chloe is a /numbers/chad and understands all this
>>14290742>Gura is too famous to fail at getting +100kshe's not promoting it anywhere, i doubt it will reach 100k this time. she's hopeless
oh no Rui is deperate
>>14290343>the two most JOP friendly ENs got the worst JP times????????????????
>>14290763She is just inexperience and you can still hear the nervousness in her voice. She seems la cretividad so it's nice to follow her journey from now on
>>14290779she retweeted the announcement. what more do you want?
>Rui is crying...
>>14290797Mori's timeslot is the same timeslot she had during her first outfit reveal. So is chicken
>>14290747I can assume she's rich enough from all the concerts so she doesn't care at that point
>>14290779Nah she'll still get 100k but that's it. (Hololive main advertised it and Other EN will mention it ofcourse.)She have the ability to go beyond 150k but is too lazy af.
>>14290779Gura can get above 150k easily, unless her sub are dead for real.
>>14290719Sana likes pokemon a lot and look at what happened at her numbers.
>Lui-nee at $10k now
>>14290618What else did phony MV guy do?
>>14290817good job for lazily retweeting the jp version retarded shark, shes uninterested
>>14290752GTA, that stick people game, getting over it maybe?
>>14290779Gura should be able to get 150k easily, her subs have only grown and she only needs a tiny portion of them to even remotely care about a big event. She has an increasingly low floor, but her ceiling grows with her subs.
>>14290855Well, her sub still grows faster than others except gen 6 and recent FBK.
>>14290742>Ame, Kiara and Ina won't get more than 70k>Kiarahttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/jQR_eA8n_Fo
>>14290817For her to actually twit about it, to have a stream about it? Like that is the absolute minimum that she should be doing.
>>14290877Fuck...
In the meantime, Pekora is over 33k with this 2$ game
>>14290909That's so ridiculous to me, Gura is consistently at 100k subs a month but her subs never show up on her streams
>$11k sc>25k ccv
>>14290864Well I meant nips but in her case her first stream of it did better than the Korone buff game.
>>14290742Mori - 90kGura - 140kAme - 80kIna - 70kKiara 60kthese are my predictions
>>14290882Lots of stuff, most are pretty good I surmisehttps://syamoji-movie.myportfolio.comHe also worked on the lyrics video for Astel's 3D live
>>14290925Nigga who has had STREAM ABOUT IT most outifts are anounced the day before nowdays
>>14290877>>14290957as long as she stays happy
>Taking the bloodbath spot after a 3d event for monetization streamI like Lui's courage
>>14290930Midget numbers
>>14290877$10k is a lot of money but it doesn't match with the debut hype
>>14290885Her graduation will happen soon. No 3D demoralized her hardcore.
>>14290885i don't blame her...
>>14290936So does Mori(faster than Pekora), their viewers watch clips or songs
>>14290936She gets half a million almost every video with half the ccv if most jp.
>>14290981King...
>>14290997You don't blame her for not doing even the absolute bare minimum?
>>14290963Ame won't get more than Ina this time.Seems like she completely gave up on self-promotion.She literally paywalled the schedule for the week. It hurts. Why are you like this, Ame?
>>14290979being hit with a bat repeatedly is still better than black company OL life
>>14290742>>14290963Mori = 90kAme = 75kIna = 80kKiara = 60kGura = 125k (will get lower if she doesn't stream at all before the outfit reveal)
>>14291024It's like Holoen as a whole wants to fail, what the hell? Only Mori and Bae seem to give a fuck nowadays.
>>14291024I don't really understand the point of doing a schedule at this point, most chuubas don't
REMINDER>2020/10/18 137,900 Marine pre-cull costume reveal>2021/07/29 136,068 Marine post-cull costume reveal>2020/10/21 140,116 Noel pre-cull costume reveal>2021/10/04 101,868 Noel post-cull costume reveal>2020/11/15 101,171 Shion pre-cull costume reveal>2021/12/04 93,815 Shion post-cull costume reveal>2021/05/07 194,140 Gura post-cull costume reveal>2021/12/12 ?????? Gura post-cull costume reveal
>>14290979>She is a good hag, she let the kids has their fill before having the cake herself
Lui will be last in her gen but this will be a blessing. We can see she is willing to try stuff and maybe her content will evolve outside the game-zatsu-karaoke loop since she might be hungry to up her numbers.
>>14291049Ametaverse : ?
>>14291051So people know when to set aside time or rearrange their own schedules to watch the content of the vtubers they like? If you stream at the same time every day it's less of an issue.
>>14291020i mean rhombus
Chumbuds don't watch streams, but they'll show up for the outfit reveals. I don't see anything below 150k happening.
>>14291083Dumb gimmick.
>>14290113Probably still Chima's, unless Suisei just pays everyone big bucks blindly...Considering she casually increases song budgets on a whim and just approves what her mangers ask, that might be the case.
You know I honestly didn't care that much about the EN outfit reveals before but this is making me really invested in the outcome.Is this what this thread does to you? Turn every stream into a sports game?
>>14290936Her archive views are crazy though.
>>14291083She will drop that, just like she drops literally everything.
>>14291029I love hags. They know it is free money and it will never be easier than this. In a similar vain Koyori seems to be extending her arm out to potential gachikoi.
>>14291060120k for Gura>She barely streamed these past few weeks>She hasn't advertised/mentioned it The onyl reason i think 120k is possible is because her sub growth is still strong and she's the last one to reveal the outfit on a good timeslot.
>>14291024Where do you people even come from.She even gave the reason why she didnt post it on twitter and will post another aftee.At this point i feel like people here just want en to be shilling itself to the point of being obnoxious.
>>14290930That number sound so little after everything we have seen todayBut good job maintaining your view count Peko
>Lui started thanking the kaigainiki in EN etc and got another 500$ in foreign SC.Good plan
>>14291049>BaeLets not compare her to mori. Mori has like 114 stream hours and she's also working with her songs. Bae only has 44 stream hours.
>>14291076I love that the numberwhale didnt warm them and took all the spot to herself tomorrow. Sasuga
>>14291150and then when Kiara did that everyone shits on herYou just can't win with these retards
>>14291119>Is this what this thread does to you?No?>Turn every stream into a sports game?VSPO/FPS is three blocks down, anon.
>>14291051I can check youtube during any weekday at around 9PM JST and be absolutely certain Pekora will either be streaming or have a frame up, I don't know when any of the ENs will be streaming, even the ones I follow. ENs need a schedule because they're not consistent.
>>14291140I love hags too but just because they make me horny
>>14291112Anon.. chima's vidya is literally just a lyric mv. how the heck it's more expensive than suityan's?
>>14291119Welcome to numberrot, population: Us.
>>14291060I'd go 120k. Marine got a lot more popular so that's why she was almost able to match her pre-cull number. Noel really didn't. Shion arguably has and she did it during a stretch where Holo numbers are generally hyperboosted by Gen 6. EN side has been in a bit of a rut with a few high points, but Gura is always a big draw.
>>14291112he's talking about the MV
>>14291024Having half of HoloEN not give a shit about numbers is absolutely crippling their growth. It’s annoying to watch.
>>14291185Fair enough.
>>14288944Ahah you made my day anon. Don't compare us to these lowlifes who strictly watch Gura on her own channel and nothing else, please.
>>14291245>us
>>14290918I was going to say that her CCV for normal streams was better at that time but now it's lower and so are my expectations... I was wrong...
>>14291119Yes, it's the same for everything. If you follow politics long enough you just start to care if Representative Fuckface can raise his popularity with Gay Hispanics enough to win reelection rather than what his policies or personal character are.
https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1467503194138095616>12月11日21:00~Matsuri Christmas Concert, Completely free on YouTube with 10 guestsUm, what? Apart from the last 2-3 streams, i follow Matsuri a lot and this is a bit out of nowhere.
>>14291060the algorithm already forgot about Gura, I made a channel specially for holos and all I see is gen6, even on shorts and clips
>>14291216It's hard to say honestly. It's the holiday season and usually means lower engagement on the EN side because everyone's busy travelling and interacting with family and what not.On the other hand the christmas event last year did gangbusters so>>14291280She mentioned it during her karaoke the other day.
>>14291280That was in her last 2-3 streams then, obviously
I saw Mori get $1,200 and got tricked into thinking she was streaming. People are SCing her outfit frame prechat....
>>14291210Numberrot isn't that bad. There aren't people balking at streams under 100k or saying $32k in SCs are a failure.
>>14291185that's only because of management mandated "break"
>>14291285>Luinee$13.4k now
>>14291315It's a bit early for travel, we're in sort of a lull for Holidays atm. I wouldn't want to try to do something on say the 20th.
>>14291348>management mandated "break"What's this about? I don't watch Bae because she's usually out of my radar.
>>14291060To be fair Noel got that high because she did her reveal right after Miko's return
>>14291204>>14291224I thought just because of the expensive, high quality illustration.Most Phony have the same trace image, so this is relatively more expensive.Admittedly, suisei's has actual 3D (free) models and a proper music video with animations.Still looks really cheap compared to her other MVs, but relative to the other Phony's, fair enough, probably he most expensive MV.
>>14290679It's the first time Sora plays a Pokemon game outside of Go. It has the first time jrpg buff
Ramy 15k get. Yo gen 5/miko/subaru schizo where you at!
>It's another Pekora pulls a weird stream out of her ass but for some reason still broke 30k episode.The numberrot is killing everyone but Idk how she does it.
>>1429144115k is not a good number in December of 2021.
>>14291285>the algorithm already forgot guraOnce again where do you people come from.
>>14291381Huh, really? Most of the content creators I know back in the day tend to write off the entire period between thanksgiving and new years because that's when views and CCV take a nosedive
Why is the thread feels so dead?
>>14291458We have reached MAXIMUM OVERCOEP levels of numberrot thanks to baitchama, people.
>>14291485no competition, Hololive took all the tops again
>>14291334She had the SC disabled in the last 2 streams so her viewers were forced to save money for the outfit reveal
>>14291485This is the second fastest thread on the board what the fuck are you talking about
>>1429148515k is not an impressive number anymore
Subaru will take silver I think, too many heavy weights and a good stream idea.
>>14291485board activity tends to take a dive around 10pm JST, I'm still not entirely sure why
>>14291485No competition and kuzuha barely get 20k+.
>>14291485>>14291532numberrot is affecting even thread speed, this is insane
>>14291559Seafag/tw/jp anons going to bed.
>>14291549Subaru will get more than 63k+?
>>14291441>15kYawn. For jp primetime pokemon and after a event that is kinda low.
>>14291583but 10pm jst is 8pm in indonesia so that's should be when activity is kicking into overdrive
>>14291485There are two types of numberfags. Those that only talk about massive numbers and those that follow trends. The first group doesn't care for anything but the top3 of they day, maybe top 10 if it's a big day. And sadly that group also is inflated by numbertourists at the moment.
>>14291568"King", hahaha. "Silverboy", ahahahaha.
>>14291582>>14291532I'm not talking about how fast the replies are.What i mean is that somehow the thread feels stale and dry.>can't explain it properly
>>14291594Her Oozora Keisatsu stunts got her 80k+, I can easily see it happening. It's a bit late but still, Pekora should end soon, Lui will end in a few minutes as well, Miko isn't streaming and Marine is in the stream. Heck on a good day this gold would be slippery as fuck.
>>14291621The shiftling between niji and holo has ruined this thread inviting the first group.The thread goes on tangents talking as if they were managers rather than actively discusing the numbers themselves and reasons for them.
>>14291594>60k won't be good enough to medalnumbers have to be stopped. this has gone too far.
>>14291455She have loyal viewers. The Shion birthday stream should already tell you thatThey tuned in just to watch Pekora and then leave when she’s not on screen anymore. If she like someone and collab with them, chances nousagis gonna give them a try and like them too. I called it “Pekora aura”
At this rate someone should keep a running counter of how many streams above 10k everyone is getting this month because the medal system is starting to seem very inadequate to represent the sheer scale of numbers that's going on right now
>>14291632There is no competition thats the answer.
>>14291695This is temporary anon,we'll have to wait when the extreme buff inflation of numbers +holiday buff settles down.
>>14291695Doesn't DB anon do that from time to time?
>>14291632Pls undahstand, HoloJP stands atop the vtuber world right now, and actually duels for biggest network of channels for streamers in JP. They're certainly the biggest 'network', and only news channels and Jun can top them in CCV. It makes for stale discussion and results in EN vs JP and other schizo nonsense popping up constantly.
>>14291334That was just 1 guy who sent 3 red superchats. I thought the limit was $500/day
>>14291695That’s the daily ranking
>>14291748No it's 500 per superchat, your actual limit is 2000 dollars a week.
January is going to have so many doomposts after Nov and Dec numbers
>>14291695Chartanon is doing that
>>14291768GenX collab ban will give a fresh boost
Lui-nee sc total : $14,628Peak ccv : 25k
>>14291802Jesus that's sad.
>>14291768that would be february anon, though the real dry season will be summer.
>>14291813anon...
>>14291728Holiday buff? As others have pointed out holidays are usually a moderate debuff in NA. Is JP just different?
>>14291802better than Kiara's so it's ok.
>>14291695that's worse for the nijis because there's a shitton of holos than can pass 10k
>>14291802I know today it feels like shit but in all honesty it's good and I'm happy for her.
>>14291831there's a reason most of vtuber booms in the past always happen near december, also the term "christmas miracle"
>>14291831Christmas is a dating holiday in Japan and families celebrate it with KFC. You tell me...
>>14291856How many nijis can pass 10k regularly? Kuzuha, Kanae, He-Ayame, Lizie and Sultan ?
>>14291831The Christmas/New Year season is not a family holiday in Japan and it's more of a couple's holiday.
>barely winning against a girl playing golf>part 6Sekiro and Bloodborne permissions are wasted on nijis. Even lize is prolonging her dragon quest game for numbers, the same for Kagami.
>>14291768January>HoloX Collab Ban ends>Pekora, Ame, Rushia, Polka Birthdays>Towa, Luna Debut AnniversaryI think January will still be strong.
>>14291831It's a debuff in America because of travelling and spending time with family. Chrismas is a romantic holiday in Japan so there's not as much travelling to see family and anyone who doesn't have a girlfriend (read: pretty much all of your viewers) are going to want something to distract them from that.
>>14291913They don't have permissions, they just don't careFor niji turning monetization off suffice, Holo can't do that since they fear a new holo-caust
>>14291883pretty much + events, but the same can be said about every holo, even the ID's can break 10k on events
they should have placed this variety stream at 10pm jst, it felt empty tonight with pegora and poke streams only available
I know hololive is in peak numberrot season but how is my girl Lizie doing?
>>14291964That's why I said regularly, events are not something regular.
>>14291989She's doing good, in the mid 10k range which puts her as basically the top Nijifemale now that Mito's declined so.
>>14290626they dont recognize the spics either, who are even bigger than themselves
>>14291632Because this thread has devolved into timeloops, baits and falseflagging like /hlgg/, mostly due to the tourists from /jp/ shitting up the thread
>>14291974watch towa
>>14290925lol nobody makes a stream about a future outfit reveal. Max they do is just mention it
>>14292080I did for 45 minutes, it was repetitive
So far:Laplus = $52,204Koyori = $30,177Lui = $14,638I predict:Iroha = $19,000+Chloe = $40,000+ (i'm lowballing here because hse's the last one, wallets might be empty and there is a limit in how much sc a single account can give right?)
Imagine if triangle persevered during the August of 2020 >>14247058
>>14290864she was doing fine until she beat the main story and is now just fucking around with boring postgame
>>14291744Nah japan still prefers nijisanji and youtube t got an deal with fuwa to become an ad for superchat.Don't forget the japanese minecraft only had an tourment with nijisanji. Nijisanji is still king in japan.
>>14290626They can have Vshoujo if they care about vtubers. Easily accessible unlike Hololive that will ignore them.
>>14292123Someone just said there's a Government bonus for civil workers on the 10th
>>14292124She'd go crazy and quit later over something else.
>>14292161>gubmintIs that enough to make a difference though?
>>14292147>fuwa to become an ad for superchatwhen?
>>14291607COPE, SEETHE.
How is pekora pulling sub 30k views playing a kusoge while there is a collab?
>>14292124She would have all the same mental illness issues, except with a group of supportive colleagues and around a million in the bank. Money doesn’t fix mental illness but boy life is easier. She would get so many saviour bucks it would be insanity
>>14292147Rushia got the same adThinking that niji is king in japan these days is pretty stupid, even niji fans don't believe thatHeck the Lawson collab sold out completely just yesterday
>>14292188Did Aloe even opened monetization? If she had persevered until then, she would've made enough to rent an apartment somewhere.
>>14292217>sub 30k views
>>14292147Ok whatever you say. Believe what you want to believe i guess.
>>14292147Good for them, I hope they get to keep it next year when Hololive inclines to the moon while Nijisanji stays stagnant
>>14292124I cannot even imagine the regret she feels everytime she looks at how much holos are succeeding, thinking she could have been part of it.
>>14291802Baelz tier
>>14292217Why are people still surprised by this? That is just her normal number
>>14292233>rushia>SC adkek
>>14292147If you had made this statement a year ago, before all these large sponsorships started to basically sell out INSTANTLY (red bull, Donki, Lawson, etc), you'd have a compelling case that Hololive lacked the clout and ability to attract big sponsors to back up the numbers.Alas, an onion, a duck and a rabbit shilled some Curry instant noodles, and so here we are...
>>14291928It will be strong untill HoloExpo in march
>>14291802Why do gachikois hate hags?
>>14292147things change, nijisanji will never be ahead of holo in search trends again.
>>14290618she's friends with the MV maker since she was before Suisei
>>14292194Yeah, I will give even more now.
>>14292289Ad campaigns lag by months, takes a while to make deals, negotiate details, get to production etc. so we are seeing the fruits of Hololive’s early 2021 success. The current streak of Holo dominance will be reflected in deals we hear about 6-12 months from now. I’d love to hear the pathway from Mori enjoys Omori and interacts a little on Twitter to multi million dollar merch deals
>>14292147>>14292233https://youtu.be/bGqcd8Ymn9U
So Lui falls into the Botan/Mio hag category rather than the Flare/Watame one... oh well, there's still a chance for Holox's total to beat Eden-gumi, I really do think Chloe will do very well and Iroha could surprise a lot of people, especially if both don't stick to the 1 hour time limit
>>14292299Why would you become a gachikoi for a hag when there are tons of younger girls?
>>14292299They are usally mothers already irl and supporting some other faggots children is depressing.
>>14292306How will they ever recover
>>14292289It’s a snowball effect that you don’t see until 3-6 months down the line because sponsorships take a while to negotiate and produce products.Hololive didn’t see the return from the curry sponsorship until 5-6 months down the line where now they’re drowning in sponsorships and selling everything out.If HoloExpo and Skyline are huge successes you can expect bigger sponsors.
>>14292379its no longer possible
>>14292364>Ayame>Kizuna>Pegorano niji, they are irrelevant..
>>14292147SEAnig-kun.. do your eigo reps before post anything here purisu
>>14292294It could be. We don't know if by then the borders will open but if they do, expect Myth 3D debut to make Hololive even bigger. What I wanna knoe about HoloExpo is if they will let fan creations like doujinshi and such there or will be Cover only.
>>14292194The Japanese government directly employs 3 million people, if even 1% of them watch hololive that'd be alot of loose cash hanging around.
>>14292299Half of the top 10 JP holos for SCs are over 30
>>14292387Did I read right that they will have event exclusive signed cards including EN for the tcg at expo? If they have the talent “in person” Kiara style at the event they’ll make bank
november update doko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSNTsfyVu2Q50k
>>14292395It's for the best of their minds to not look at numbers anymore
>>14292451Honestly okay playboard is unreliable it misses a ton of superchats and is complete ass with views too. Hololyzer seems much better but not sure how hard it would be to get the same data set
Marine is doing too many collabs on other people's channels lately. Her own numbers are going to take a hit when she never streams on her own channel.
>>14292450Stop it, I don't want to hear this anymore. If it's true, it's gonna be a scalper's heaven and they'll sell it at x5 the price online for kaigainikis.
>>14292316really?
>>14292299Asian countries in general are obsessed with young girls (under 25 or so). The older you get the less guys want you.Hell Japan even calls them Christmas cakes.
>>14292316Suisei never forgets her old friends so I'm not surprised
>>14292306>the flippeningIt finally happened. This is the end of an era. All female vtuber groups are going to follow the hololive model.
>>14292299She's the third to go in a single day, the wallets of gachis aren't bottomless
>>14292510She’s really sociable
>>14292407I think the details are on the website. You can check it there
>>14292250Niji is flat you declining, they wish they could stagnate.
>>14292559>All female vtuber groups are going to follow the hololive model.If they waited until now to get on this, they're already too late. They should have hopped on Summer 2020.Here's waiting on what Sony actually does with their group to determine if their model will succeed or finally bury the idea of deviating from idolchuubas.
>>14292518For the card fags I’ve always wondered which is worth more? Mint condition top rarity signed card vs same card with a personalized signing by say Gura done on stream
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1468579685731041286 FBK 100 hrs put into pokemon
>>14292510That has never happened to Marine in the last year and a half I've been watching her, she has the same thing that pekora has in that 20k fans will show up whenever she streams no matter what she does
>>14292510Her collab backlog is quite long. She is staying at Noel and Rushia's house (which is near the Holo Studio) because 3D concert and live, birthday event, etc.Better to do them before the possible lock-down because the new COVID.
>>14292624when will she stream pokemon again?
>>14292624friend...
>>14292618Obviously the latter
>>14292188She just seems like someone that didn't have the tools, skillset and mentality to go at it alone.
>>14292618The one signed on stream>knows she did it on hand, on record and is unique because of this.At least is worth 10x the normal asking price for that alone.
>>14292703I only ask because I distinctly remember some old arguments about having an athlete sign their card without rock solid authentication might actually devalue a card
>>14292241Apparently Cover flat out offered to move her and her month somewhere else and she refused.
>>14292675>>14292703I will outbid that
>>14292768yeah, because there's doubt if that's actually from the athelete or some scam artist trying to up the price.If they signed it on stream then there's solid proof that it's signed by the girl herself and so that wouldn't be an issue.
Subaru's stream modest 55K to finish off another day
>>14292775Ever read a manga about a character who starts at rock bottom but is given a chance and then finds success and realizes their dreams with the power of friendship? Aloe is literally the opposite of that. Watching it unfold in slow motion is like watching car crash videos. It’s probably healthiest to look away
>>14292618The latter in any market, really. The value of confirmed hand-singed material in person is derived from the uniqueness of it as opposed to its quality as an object.
https://twitter.com/you_kururu/status/1468576719032709123What is yagoo planning this time?
>>14291802is she at least okay with that number?
>>14292882That's the song that first aired during HoloAlt's trailer, they are finally getting it to release.Guess this is why they took so long.
>>14292846Pretty much, something that I find funny is that back in the day a lot of people were shitting on Cover for firing Aloe, but nowadays Cover pretty much comes out as a saint trying to help someone that was telling them to fuck off.
>>14292241From what she has said, Cover got her a new door (her stepdad would kick down the door), some sort of sound booth and offered to move her out and she rejected the last one.
>>14292850On another topic, I remember an old clip of some holo who couldn't pull a signed card and joked about signing it herself. Who was it? How much would that card be today?
>>14292927how can Yagoo save a girl if she doesn't even want to saving herself?
>>14292954He tried, hard, but Aloe really didn't want to be saved.
>>14292927>Cover got her a new door (her stepdad would kick down the door)I shouldn't laugh at that, but it's just such a ludicrous situation. How do we help her? Just buy her a new door lol
>>14292768Yeah but if she did on on stream and showed it, then is as good asyou can get to see that is real, made by the girl herself and unique. Depending if she adds more handsigns from Myth, gets more worth, like Kanata's PPT shirt with at least 10 signs from Holo girls, including Marine, Noel and Coco, which I think it should be worth at least 250k yen.
>>14292954Her whole story is a shitshow and there’s no responsible adult anywhere near her.To top it off apparently she has Asperger’s and is also bipolar.
>>14292814It means there's proof that *a* card was signed on stream but there's no proof that the card being sold is that very same card that was signed on stream
>>14292930They have to basically have to keep it notarized and provide corroborating material that can prove that it happened (and probably have it sealed) before its collector's value is defined in the first place.
>>14292882https://twitter.com/you_kururu/status/1468585495676751872AHHHHHHOLOLIVE HAS TOO MANY EVENTS THIS DECEMBER!!!!!
>>14291768Not January because there are still some events, but February.... Just like last year.
Pekora just moved to SC reading.60k possible for Subaru?
Miko doko?
>>14292979to be fair they are corporation, not a government or law enforcement. As long as Aloe herself refused to seek police action there's very little that they could do to help her. If anything they already went above and beyond.
how valid are Hololive and Holostar to some extend Yagoo's house for broken people claim?
Is there a long pasta about mano aloe like the saving matsuri one?
>>14293110>it's a secretDid this dude break a street date? lol
hold the FUCK up, yagoo's birthday is dec 10yagoo's L2D debut inc
>>14292531China calls them "Forgotten/left behind women".It's mostly in the west, and even there, mostly America where it's pretty normal to be in your 40s and casually dating.
>>14293254https://twitter.com/you_kururu/status/1468585787843543047
>>14293110YAGOO THERE IS A MOLE BETWEEN US!!!
>>14293210
>>14293253>MatsuriThere's another Matsuri pasta besides the "cucked menhera" pasta?
>>14293265Doubt it, Yagoo doesn’t really seem to put himself out there unless the girls request something from him.
>>14293265I'm telling you. They can build even more hype by having Yagoo in a Santa suit and announcing all the Christmas events then segue into the girls.
Marine pulling the RokuX card for the 60k push They're imitating La+
>>14293265If he did, expect anykyara to put the fat fuck CEO on 2Dlive just to copy Cover, again.
Subaru 60k get
If Cover had to choose between graduating Gura and Mori or graduating the entire EN branch except those 2, which would they pick?
>>14293342won’t it technically be cover copying anykara first
>>14293371none of them, Yagoo would rather take a paycut and save them all.
Btw, Mel 3k get on her alt.Close to normal numbers on her Holo account.Don't know how it was before the kson collabs, but it could mean she has a sizeable audience that could be converted.
>>14293342The fat fuck already did it first, and seriously stop with this CEO worship already.
>>14293431no
>>14293410It's more like her alt moving away from NicoNico and carrying her audience along with her
Let's get back on topic to numbers it turns out in vod views Selen is on par with Sana and beats her most of time.
>>14293431
>>14293401STOP, YAGOSHI! YOU'RE GONNA DIE!! ARE YOU GOING TO SAVE EVEN IF IT KILLS YOU!!?!?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! SAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVEEEEEEE!!!!
The combined power of Subaru and Marine is very close to taking the silver.
>>14293512It wouldn't be surprising considering Selen actually streams
>>14293512Do a side by side to prove it, if only to stop anyone saying you're bullshitting.
MORE SC FOR LUI!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TE7whfplMg
>>14293512Anon, you can't just say that and not bring numbers. You HAVE to back up your claims directly.
duck collab was 400 away from taking silver but fucking susan had to take 7k
It's past midnight JST, would it still count as silver?
>>14293371Given they closed the entire Chinese branch for Coco, they would probably prioritize Gura and Mori.
>>14293719ffs susan..
>>14293512Sana averages 112k per VODSelen averages 42k
This Lui SC reading is going to be by far the lowest viewed for HoloX so far..
>>14293625>>14293811If it was true he would have posted proof along with that statement.It's not, so.
>>14293811Bullshit here the proof Here an Selen vod from four days ago an a debuff game.
>>14293853He said average, fucking retard
oh its just the village retard
>>14293811Here an Sana vod from 2 day ago
>>14293853>3hr45minkek
>>14293512>>14293853Sorry what were you lying about?
>>14293512roru
ILLEGAL
how do we save her
>>14294019AAAAAAAAAAHHHH KIIIIIIIING
>>14293951>45%>still very lowok who's the retard who designed this shit?
>>14293931He tried to nitpick there wwwwww
>>14293811>>14293898>>14293931Here is the complete list of all steams by both Sana and Selen, plus the sum of their VOD views (rounded to the nearest K, as I copied and pasted from Youtube interface)>pic relatedThere are two ways you can look at this>In the past 54 videos Sana total VOD is 7497 while Selen is 3297or>In the lifetime of 143 Videos Selen total VOD is 9227, while Sana lifetime in her 54 videos is 7497
>>14294062Youtube videos usually have much more vods than subcribers so if your video views are lower than your number of subs you're typically considered "very low"
>>14294076doesnt that interpretation just mean that selen is declining
>>14294038she's reading sc, stop going full retarded nijisister
>>14294076>>14294117Yeah I was going to point that.
>>14294038>3436Mel alt literally has more viewers now.
>>14294076why do I hear about sana vs selen all the time? tey have nothign in common. in terms of numbers one is the best of their company the other is the worst. next time try and compare selen to gura or reimu to sana
>>14294183it's the only way to cope
>>14294183>one is the best of their company the other is the worstthats the reason why. its the only time niji en is close to holo en
>>14294183because he's a selennigger with delusions of NijiEN being on par with HoloEN and he will "prove it" no matter how much he needs to distort the numbers in order to do soShit like this is what gives Selen a bad name around these parts
>>14294183But if they do that how they gonna win.
>>14294062Its weighted around the vod system where many videos will get many times the subscriber count in views.
>>14294062>>14294112No they don't, Playboard just doesn't do median or Bayesian anymore, whatever it was that leveled the high and low end.Now, music channels and 1 time hit channels with 10000 times fewer subs that views are immensely skewing that metric.It's worthless
>>14294117>doesnt that interpretation just mean that selen is decliningNo?Here is her VOD views in a chart, seems very stable, taking in consideration>the older the video the most time it had to acrue views>>14294183Pitting the top of one branch with the bottom of another is a time honored cope tradition
Lui-nee D': PLEASE
>>1429401925k now. I don't think she's on the same level as La+ and Chloe but the numbers are really impressive
>>14294062For reference this is what a "typical" well performing youtuber's stats look like
>>14293951>that noticeable difference in interaction rateThis is what fuels the algorithm.
>>14288285Didn't Kagami Hayato made like $100.000 in his 3d debut? also I remember an Aqua stream where she made something like 30k.
>>14294295Here is what an atypical very strong one performs like
>>14294360UOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH NUMBERS
>>14294351Reading reps anon? "Monetization stream"
>>14294351it's only for the first monetization stream anon
>>14294360Holy shit
>>14294351Those are just monetization streams anon, Kagami's was his 3D debut.If you don't see Coco's 306k$ graduation on the list, you can assume that we're looking at specific type of streams.
>>14294360Anyone who thinks avg. live stream VOD can beat avg. clips/videos or songs VOD is retarded
>>14291468The land of reality
How much did Lui make?
>>14294467>new ipHow many times have you resetted your router these past few days?
>>14293267>"Forgotten/left behind women".LEFTOVER women
>>14294383>>14294385>>14294424Ohh that makes sense, thanks for claryfing!
>>14294482Only $15k~An absolute failure. Koyori only got $32k too. Chloe and Iroha better not disappoint, I am this close from anti-ing rokkisei livers.
>TOP WINNER OF DECEMBER 20211) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3DGold medal events:9) Mori new outfit11) Ame new outfit12) Gura new outfitWinning streak: 17 days
>shion yo>two goldi kneel...
>>14294816Add Chloe superchat opening for the 10th, hololive has 100% guaranteed golds until the 12th minimum.
>>14294723I think it might be more, Anon. Plus her reading supas garner some more. Still surprised she made it almost to 20k. Heavy day for donors.
>>14293951boy it's funny how the ratiocope suddenly vanishes when bringing it up would hurt your argument.
Don't think EN is pulling 10k today.
>>1429485810th has the hololive announcement thing too and that might take gold depending on how it's organized.
>>14294858Nah, not until I see it. There's still an event/secret announcement from Cover other than that christmas event. There's also Niji Mario Kart.
>>14294910Ina is playing black mesa
Ayame birthday : 13th
>>14294939>Niji getting a gold ever again, even more while overlapping several big holo thingsThey'll be lucky to get a bronze.
>>142948661,701,140円 for the monetization stream. Her SC reading stream has 233,781円
>>14294910Mori, or maybe you mean normal stream
Can I check 2views with playboard?
You hear that?No?Exactly.That's the silence of nijniggers and kuzufags BTFO from this thread
>>14295005Only if they have 100k vod views total
>>14294939>There's also Niji Mario Kart.Minimum of 75kHololive has a high bar to beat.
>>14295039What's the precedent for this? That's one hell of a number for some random niji thing.
Even the Flare anti is gone from the thread today
>>14294939when is the niji mario kart thing?
>>14294952I didn't see that, thank you! So yes maybe with Ina 10k get, then.
Subaru and Iroha recently ended streams. Flare got two bumps. Coincidence? Are Gen6 tourist staying around for Flare?
>>14295039Fairly certain, they're still debuffed during Hololive's greatest month. A minimum of 75k is too high, try 50k since it's only a draft. There's still a chance for them if they don't go primetime on the drafting stream and do it in the evenings.
>>14294910Mori's outfit reveal is today
>>14294910several will
>>14295088>double illegal view funneling
>>14294987I apologize to the last anon. Oh Lui-nee.. This hurts. I guess it's still better than expected.
>>14295088It’d be funny if some of the Gen 6 tourists stay while they never stay around for Nijisanji.
>>14295129Anon it's tomorrow, or that's what her video says.
Tomorrow's SC chart is gonna look nice on a wall with a frame
>>14295183Timezone reps. It's the 9th in Japan, this thread typically counts the days by JP time.
>>1429518323:00 JST, or does it count as the next day?
>>14295188Yamada could have done way more damage if she'd gotten all of the Kaigai Nikkis money. >:(
Last yearToya (Nijisanji) - 46k - 3rd Niji Mariokart lottery
>>14295227Right, sorry. Need to rest.>>14295233Counting as the next day,
>Pekora gets a pedestrian 33k>not even top 5She's declining.
So Chloe will be having her monetization stream on Friday at 11pm JST. How much would it fuck up her SC potential? I was pretty confident in her sweeping the rest of holox in SC but after how much Laplus exceeded my expectations today, I'm having second doubts. On one hand, she's the last (?) to the party but on the other, she doesn't have to share the limelight with her genmates like today.
>>14295299Take any other Vtuber playing that shitty 180¥game and they would have barely made half her number. Cope.
>>14295183Timezone reps (and chart counting reps).It falls under the 9th in Japan, and it's already the 9th in Japan right now.
>>14295421its a joke cucksagi, calm down
>>14295299*SLAP*Bad anon. That's the numberrot spewing all about. Stop it.
SEAniggers go to bed already
>>1429544630 is the new 20, 20 is the new 10. Golds in the 40s are a bad day.
>>14294910Iyrs will play Asseto Corsa. We will see if it's a buff game outside of Gura playing it.
>>14295473Truly we have hit peak numberrot.
>>14295473You'll come back doomposting about Hololive dying in Feb next year, wouldn't you
>>14295415a) that's a very hot picb) Friday is a JP debuff and 11 pm are pretty late but, if she does ASMR for the 2nd part of the stream, it would be perfect scheduling.I still don't expect her to beat La+, i think Chloe has too many non donating tourists, while Laplus is filling a more gachikoi heavy mold
>>14295519Wait, since when is friday a debuff?
>>14295019I felt a great disturbance in the numbers, as if thousands of nijiniggers cried out in terror...and were suddenly silenced.
>>14295540Do we really have to go through this every Friday?
>>14294816Shion actually got 2 exclusive primetime slot in a span of 5 days.
>>14295569Apparently so.
>>14295540Since every Friday because not only do every single Holo and vtuber stream, a good portion of watchers are normies who'd rather go out drinking than come and watch anime girls
>>14295540Since retards here think the average vtuber audience go clubbing at Friday night JST