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>>14954632
Previously on numbers

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:23:27 2021 No.14967094

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:24:14 2021 No.14967122 OP of the previous numbers, you're a goddamn idiot. That's the first time I've seen numbers get straight up yeet'd like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:24:22 2021 No.14967125 Why did the previous one got deleted?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:24:33 2021 No.14967134 File: 370 KB, 476x567, 1638836867357.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wtf just happened!?????

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:24:46 2021 No.14967141 Wtf happened to the previous thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:24:47 2021 No.14967142 >>14967125 Tranny OP image

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:24:47 2021 No.14967143 Quit using blatant offtopic images retard. Are you fucking new here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:25:08 2021 No.14967157 File: 1.08 MB, 1200x1200, 1639427291031.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14967125 >>14967134 Tranny mod got upset.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:25:24 2021 No.14967162 >>14966984 It varies on a case by case basis, but it usually lasts about two weeks, depending on how much hype there is on debut and how interesting they are and how well they are able to build a narrative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:25:39 2021 No.14967172 >>14967142 >>14967143 >>14967157 What's wrong with previous op image?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:26:00 2021 No.14967186 >>14967143 but you can numberfag tranny suicide rate, no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:27:09 2021 No.14967223 So who got the gold today?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:27:09 2021 No.14967222 >>14967172 40% tranny joke >>14967186 This is still /vt/ mate. That's pretty much on the nose and is just asking for it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:27:17 2021 No.14967228 >>14967162 Though the previous NijiEN wave had no honeymoon period to speak of. On the other hand this being an unprecedented big corpo male wave could also mean the novelty prolongs the debut buff longer than usual.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:27:18 2021 No.14967231 File: 99 KB, 656x295, Mysta.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:28:11 2021 No.14967265 Holy fuck this dudes Twitter engagement is insane, did we ignore the thirsty female Fujo market in the west? https://twitter.com/vox_akuma/status/1472949194369421329?s=21

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:28:32 2021 No.14967279

>>14967122
I second that. There are some third wires to be avoided and politics (all politics) is most definitely one of those.

>>14967143
>>14967172
>>14967186
It's not that it is offtopic but that it is politics. off topic is fine for the longest time

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:28:37 2021 No.14967283 File: 88 KB, 722x54, 1640013242091.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well since previous got deleted, here is the state Manjisanji rin gabare....

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:28:59 2021 No.14967298 >>14967228 They did not, the honeymoon period got sucked away into Selen because she was the breakout star of the whole debut and then all of wave three killed themselves by doing superchat readings and watchalongs

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:29:23 2021 No.14967313 >>14967223 newfagkun learn the routine of this thread at least

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:29:24 2021 No.14967314 >>14967231 Well done Patra Put that fake british detective in his place

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:29:26 2021 No.14967315 File: 380 KB, 1392x810, stop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14967283 she does it to herself

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:29:50 2021 No.14967324 >>14967265 >twitter can we put on op post to stop using twitter as parameter? it means jack shit. Gwelu get 20x times more engagement on twitter than his livestream

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:29:52 2021 No.14967326 File: 160 KB, 1082x380, 1639714393964.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sana...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:30:00 2021 No.14967330 >>14967265 unfortunately twitter engagement does not translate into views

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:30:00 2021 No.14967331 >>14967265 >did we ignore the thirsty female Fujo market in the west? >'we'

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:30:33 2021 No.14967352 >>14967315 ECKS EYYY VEEE SAIKOUUUUUU

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:30:35 2021 No.14967353 >>14967324 Numbers is numbers, if they're massively successful on Twitter it still counts for something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:30:39 2021 No.14967356 >>14967265 Makes me wonder how many of those were fans of the Niji girls. There’s some overlap later today so we might see that in action. From what I recall, HoloEN barely lost any viewership to the debuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:31:49 2021 No.14967402 >>14967298 >Wave 3 I can't believe they managed to RTA irrelevance but they did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:31:55 2021 No.14967409 >>14967353 >Vtweeter

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:32:51 2021 No.14967430 >>14967326 Sana did it to herself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:33:07 2021 No.14967446 >>14967298 Reimu, if you're reading this, please find whichever idiot at nijisanji who told you guys that superchat readings and watchalongs make for great debut week content and shoot them in the face.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:33:20 2021 No.14967456 Can someone tell what's pekora, fbk and kuzuha average for this month? not even shitposting I just want to know .

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:33:23 2021 No.14967458 >>14967409 Most EN vtweeters can only dream of reaching the levels of Twitter engagement nijis have, they're 2follower vtweeters

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:33:25 2021 No.14967459 >>14967315 My wife doesn’t care about the numbers she’s perfect!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:35:04 2021 No.14967507 File: 186 KB, 842x294, Chama.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14967356 Oh no no no...Holobros... What went wrong to HoloJP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:35:05 2021 No.14967508 >being this happy with tweets Kek. When did we stoop so low.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:35:16 2021 No.14967512 https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1472947254029959172 So the Xmas Collab tomorrow isn't just a single POV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:35:19 2021 No.14967514 >>14967446 Reimu is never gonna get sponsored is she…

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:36:10 2021 No.14967535 >>14967326 I actually unsubbed from Sana this morning, she is kinda boring and i was a dead sub to her

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:36:24 2021 No.14967540 >>14967353 then start to put 2views indie as well, since it's easy to find 2views with tens even hundreds times engagement on twitter than their views

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:36:28 2021 No.14967541 If you gonna numberfag twitter engagement, might as well numberfag aqua's song that went viral on tiktok. In reality, she didn't even get any boost of views on that song at all. Literally useless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:36:36 2021 No.14967551 >>14967456 Anon posted it every fucking thread. Do your rep.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:36:38 2021 No.14967553 >>14967507 Haachama lost a chunk of viewers ever since the face reveal yab.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:37:09 2021 No.14967565 >>14967507 Chammers has been a 3view for weeks now

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:37:17 2021 No.14967571 File: 340 KB, 1157x4393, ranking dec 1 to dec 19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14967456 >Can someone tell what's pekora, fbk and kuzuha average for this month? Here for the Dec 19.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:37:40 2021 No.14967581 >>14967353 vtweeting never ends well. Either someone end up doing an unnecessary hot take that leads into drama or insincerely following trends. Creating trends are fine, but following them makes the brand look weak.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:37:59 2021 No.14967589 >>14967541 Kek bravo aqua, just fucking stream games already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:38:05 2021 No.14967594 >>14967541 thanks to that i found some cuties

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:38:57 2021 No.14967623 >>14967535 Based! I'm a hololive-only and i also unsubbed to her when she took a break again after the 1-month dog died break. >>14967553 Face reveal yab? the stream yesterday? Chammers fell after those multiple breaks she had.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:39:05 2021 No.14967631

>>14967553
>ever since the face reveal yab.
Nope, she actually inclined after that.

She shed her prev audience during the schizolore arc and then shed the schizolore audience when she went into a hiatus.
Her current median is around 6k (see >>14967571) and from what I got from her demeanor she wants to shed even more to have a "manageable chat" again.

She's JP Risu in that sense

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:39:25 2021 No.14967641 >>14967589 Hopefully the Mario Kart renews her passion for competition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:40:30 2021 No.14967666 >>14967623 Nah, she really revealed her face on stream a few weeks ago.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:40:32 2021 No.14967671

>>14967540
>2views with maybe a couple hundred retweets at best
Make that at least a few thousand before they qualify, I don't mind setting the bar much higher for twitter numberfagging due to how it works but it's strange to ignore it entirely when you fags have numberfagged twitter space listeners with no problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:40:45 2021 No.14967678 >>14967512 >multi POV The bane of numberfags everywhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:41:02 2021 No.14967690 >>14967631 >>14967623 >Chammers fell after those multiple breaks she had. btw, I'm a Haaton from the longest time and I had no idea she would be streaming now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:41:30 2021 No.14967707 >>14967641 she is just going to cry like a loser again

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:43:16 2021 No.14967764 So any predictions on the next debuts? HoloID Gen 3: around February NijiEN Gen 5: around March or April HoloEN Gen 3: around May NijiJP New Gen: around June HoloJP Gen 7: around October or November

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:44:29 2021 No.14967804 >>14967666 Ohh shit!! So uhh Is she pretty?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:44:38 2021 No.14967811 >>14967283 Mysta have been below Axia for a while. And that's also another proof that Mario Cart tourney buff works even if he's below 10k.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:44:40 2021 No.14967813 >>14967690 This. I'm also a Haaton and she's going the Polka route of random stream times and random stream contents.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:45:00 2021 No.14967824 >>14967764 >HoloEN Gen 3: around May Doubt. >HoloID Gen 3: around February Likely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:45:48 2021 No.14967846 >>14967804 Not really, no

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:46:15 2021 No.14967865 Gimme holokr already so i can numberfag another branch and market.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:46:20 2021 No.14967870 >>14967571 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:46:37 2021 No.14967877 >>14967764 I expect at least 2 NIJIEN debut next year

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:46:39 2021 No.14967879

>>14967804
it was one of the biggest shock of all of the vtuber community
>Japanese girl streamer from a japanese company looks like an average japanese girl

>>14967813
>Polka route of random stream times
Nah, at very least she's consistent. Ever since college she usually streams midnight JST, 1AM JST or 2AM JST.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:47:17 2021 No.14967898 >>14967764 I have insider information and JP Gen 7 is July

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:48:46 2021 No.14967944 >>14967804 Below kson level

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:49:32 2021 No.14967971 >>14967898 The voice in my head said that you're full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:49:37 2021 No.14967974 Haachama vod views still look pretty healthy, she is streaming at midnight after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:49:43 2021 No.14967979 >>14967541 Which song

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:51:21 2021 No.14968025 >>14967641 The last MK tournament and Apex broke her. We're not getting gamer Aqua back anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:52:13 2021 No.14968059 Looks like Vox got over double the vod viewership than Shu on their guerilla streams (45k vs 78k)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:52:27 2021 No.14968064 >>14967979 Aqua iro pallete

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:53:24 2021 No.14968091 >>14967944 Very ugly then

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:53:25 2021 No.14968092 >>14967764 I don't think there's gonna be a HoloEN 3 for a long ass time if Omega is still in charge

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:54:40 2021 No.14968124 >>14968059 Wish Shu could stop his obsession with copro stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:54:58 2021 No.14968138 >>14968059 flips are cursed with low numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:55:31 2021 No.14968157 >>14968092 Nah, auditions will probably open up sometime next month. It’s around that time already. Sana majorly fucked up any buff she could’ve gotten so she’ll probably be below Aki tier when Gen 3 comes out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:55:52 2021 No.14968174 >>14967974 this, it's a consistent 125k-150k per stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:56:24 2021 No.14968193 >>14967507 I hope you dumb Nijiniggers realize that post debut streams are usually among the most buff streams a vtuber will ever have. Usually only surpassed by special events. 6.9k for a post debut stream is realpy really bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:56:26 2021 No.14968195 >>14968092 >>14967824 Council was supposed to Debut earlier but was pushed back due to Coco's Graduation. >>14967898 Lol that's too early. Around October or December is actually a good prediction

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:56:55 2021 No.14968208 >>14967553 She lost viewers because she doesn't stream often and just does random things (similar to Ame)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:57:27 2021 No.14968223 >>14968157 Nah Omega is too obsessed with his lore shit right now, he won't want to add more characters to his "story" yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 15:59:51 2021 No.14968304 >>14968223 So are you just repeating that for fun or are you one of those retards who genuinely believe everything they read on 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:00:32 2021 No.14968328 >>14968223 Are you his assistant or something?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:00:53 2021 No.14968334 [DELETED]

>>14967764
>So any predictions on the next debuts?
>HoloID Gen 3: February(After Valentines) -March
>NijiEN Gen 5: around March or April
I agree. Spring seems about right.
>HoloEN Gen 3: around May
For merchandising purposes, it'll be between Council's and Myth anniversaries.

Other debuts
>Holox 3D debut
March
>LazuLight first alternate outfits
April

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:00:57 2021 No.14968337 >>14968223 better this way, i dont want to see Hololive copied 'let's fling ton of shits to the wall and see which one will stick' tactic

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:01:18 2021 No.14968351 >>14968195 Gen 5 debut was 8 months after Gen 4 so I'm basing it on that. There will probably be no EN3 debuts for more than a year so I think its fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:01:18 2021 No.14968350 >>14968064 Thanks! Numberbro

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:01:18 2021 No.14968352 >>14968223 Don't get why people hate the lore. Makes it easy to write story for digital media publication. Not like they are forced to act on it anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:01:34 2021 No.14968357 >>14968304 I believe what he himself said in an interview, i.e. "I want a gen 2 because there aren't enough characters for the story yet"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:01:49 2021 No.14968368 >>14967804 She looks like the asian girls from those videos where they remove all their make up or viceversa to show how much of a difference it makes, basically yellow fever cure tier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:02:34 2021 No.14968383 File: 41 KB, 564x505, retard slap.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14968357 so the latter then. I believe this is warranted

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:02:49 2021 No.14968386 >>14968368 That's every asian girl.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:03:08 2021 No.14968396

>>14967764
So any predictions on the next debuts?
>HoloID Gen 3: February(After Valentines) -March
>NijiEN Gen 5: around March or April
Spring seems about right.
>HoloEN Gen 3: around May
For merchandising purposes, it'll be between Council's and Myth anniversaries.

Other debuts
>Holox 3D debut
March
>LazuLight first alternate outfits
April

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:03:14 2021 No.14968401 >>14968352 I felt like omegay overdone it a bit too much, may be one short trailer like holox is enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:03:41 2021 No.14968412 >>14968352 People just hated how they did the teaser for Council. It was pretty bad with how the first video didn’t tell you shit and looked more like an art project. Didn’t even tease a potential new gen at the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:04:49 2021 No.14968444 File: 40 KB, 564x505, pals drater.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14968383

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:04:51 2021 No.14968448

>>14968401
yeah, I'm fine with lore, the problem is that the concept they went with for council is beyond retarded and makes it hard for them to lean into it without being pompous. Myth is actually the perfect balance where there's enough lore for them to lean onto for inspiration but it's not overwhelming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:05:07 2021 No.14968455 >>14968401 >>14968412 >stalling The teasers.. yes, that I agree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:05:49 2021 No.14968484 >>14968352 People won't hate it if they didn't blueball people too much with those Cube thingy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:06:56 2021 No.14968507 >>14968484 the first cube video was fine, but it should've been followed up with the trailer next week instead of what they did where they had three videos and then the trailer for the next gen literally dropped out of nowhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:07:30 2021 No.14968527 >>14968455 I’d say go for the Holo X method next time instead of killing interest from making artsy videos. Hell, even do it like IRyS debut with the long ass countdown or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:07:45 2021 No.14968538 >>14968448 This. Lore is supposed to just explain the character design. Nobody gives a ahit about anything else. Let the vtubers personality mold their fanbase.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:09:24 2021 No.14968603

>>14968396
>>14968351
They could also just Debut a single chuuba like what they did with IRyS.

If they don't want to flood HoloEN then Debut 1 for every 3months.
>That's already equivalent to 1 Gen a year
>That way there is always attention grabber and new chuuba people will flock on

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:09:33 2021 No.14968608

>>14968304
I would say watch streams but you're clearly just a Cover shill, nigger.
>FF14fag
>Laughs at Gura
>Lore
>Kick Chama from EN
>Dragon banishment room
>"Uhm actschully" vtweeter
>Steal Council's thunder
>EI GoblinaRyS
>Takes credit for La Creatividad

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:10:15 2021 No.14968632 So now that NijiEN wave 4 is out and is already proven to be a certified flop where does NijiEN go from here? This was their trump card and it failed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:10:47 2021 No.14968651 File: 114 KB, 564x505, fubuslap.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14968608 >>14968632

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:11:52 2021 No.14968688 >>14968608 Oh look another retard who thinks Omega is the manager

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:13:07 2021 No.14968739

>>14968352
Omega was way too serious and up his own ass. Hololive is way more comedic than that. Yeah it has HoloALT but it also produces Hologra, the theres he meme, jokes, and pranks. He should leaning way more into comedy. Its not like he cant do his surreal shit but it needs to inject a fuck ton of humor into his writing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:15:47 2021 No.14968832 >>14968739 And then there's Holoearth Metaverse

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:16:39 2021 No.14968864 >>14968739 He needs to fucking stream if he ever wants any respect. Even the girls don’t really respect him except maybe IRyS cause he’s her producer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:16:51 2021 No.14968870 >>14968632 Throw every resource on Kuzuha. It's their only visible way for success. Kenmochi can get some funds too.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:17:42 2021 No.14968904
File: 3.32 MB, 5712x4111, chink dragon maid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Here is one more data point on how FUCKING LUCKY Hololive got on their early decoupling from the chinese market
>zhangs turned Ilulu from an H cup into a Rushia tier AA cup

I can only imagine, had Cover chosen China instead of the west, the type of changes they would have to make on CN Kronii, CN Sana, Haachama, Choco, Mel and the likes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:18:06 2021 No.14968918 The obsession with Omega is o e of the most schizo things I have ever seen on this board. All over one twitter post. You people are insane.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:18:27 2021 No.14968936 >>14968538 >Lore is supposed to just explain the character design. well said.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:19:01 2021 No.14968955 >>14968739 "He" would have to be funny in the first place. Which is why this leads me to believe Omega really is a woman or successfully /become/ one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:19:33 2021 No.14968975 >>14968904 >China is one of the huge markets

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:20:36 2021 No.14969013 >>14968955 3/4 of cover's staff are males tho according to their presentation

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:20:40 2021 No.14969020

>>14967974
Only about 50% of her audience actually is in the JP time frame, so it makes sense that like with EN, people from different places check out the VOD later.

Also, all her streams were guerilla and after midnight, so JP viewers also only get to see them later.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:20:50 2021 No.14969030

>>14968955
>Which is why this leads me to believe Omega really is a woman
Dumb people thinking the character is one person (like A-Chan) instead of being the collective name for the whole branch backstage never ceases to make me laugh.
This also explain why the "pronoun doesn't matter" is a thing. It's not one fucking person, it's an avatar for the management / production team

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:21:47 2021 No.14969064 >>14969013 nta but what presentation Any numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:23:03 2021 No.14969121 >>14968603 >They could also just Debut a single chuuba like what they did with IRyS. I wouldn't mind it. They shown they could get away with releasing six ENs in one year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:23:06 2021 No.14969125 >>14969030 How much are you getting paid, intern-kun? Please provide numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:23:09 2021 No.14969126 >>14968904 It's anywhere from A to C cup, as expected of shoddy censoring. also, weren't the big boobs a big part of her character arc and powers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:23:19 2021 No.14969132 timeloop owaranai

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:23:38 2021 No.14969147 >>14969126 It's where she stores her flames.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:24:30 2021 No.14969177 >>14968904 remember to thank coco every day for pulling cover out of chinkland

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:24:39 2021 No.14969184 File: 209 KB, 960x541, coverstaff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14969064 https://speakerdeck.com/covercorp/cover-corp-introduction

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:25:43 2021 No.14969218 >>14968608 >>14969125 so do you just accuse everyone who goes against your narrative as paid cover shills?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:27:53 2021 No.14969311 >>14969218 Where do we sign up for this? Seems like an easy job

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:29:07 2021 No.14969358 File: 580 KB, 1082x835, 1628738739179.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14968904 Nene's voiced character

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:29:11 2021 No.14969364 >>14969311 It's real easy, first you take a loaded shotgun and put the barrel in your mouth, then you pull the trigger. Everything else will work itself out

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:30:25 2021 No.14969408 >>14969358 Did they remove the scene where her character got threatened by a guy with a knife or did they just edit it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:31:54 2021 No.14969463 File: 108 KB, 1280x720, kiara laughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14969408 It was a little weird seeing people freaking out about a guy threatening air with a knife but well...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:35:51 2021 No.14969588 File: 1.41 MB, 850x1300, 1618549905116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14969358 Also don't forget this

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:36:45 2021 No.14969619 >>14969588 Do you expect people here to know chinese? I don't for sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:38:21 2021 No.14969676 >>14969619 Virtualreal was forced to tweet out a message commemorating nanking on the anniversary, also all japanese vtubers weren't allowed to stream for three days including VR

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:39:11 2021 No.14969704 what happened to the final tally of the day anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:39:28 2021 No.14969713 jwu post tally so i can sleep

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:40:07 2021 No.14969732 >>14969463 >Israel I kneel. The absolute dedication and autism to seethe over Google analytics. Face it, humanbros. Bugs are the most motivated race. They are loyal to the cause.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:40:47 2021 No.14969754

>>14969619
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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:40:48 2021 No.14969755 File: 641 KB, 900x800, __shiranui_flare_and_suou_patra_hololive_and_1_more_drawn_by_eihire__795ee2c26524b5a99ec76cae931be817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >currently the two most watched vtubers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:40:55 2021 No.14969760 >Orange kuzuha dropped to 5k Confirmed nijimale fanbase are mostly sea women

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:41:04 2021 No.14969765 >>14967315 yeah she just doesn't really care lol, she did [NO PLAN] ecks eye vee streams for the longest time many months ago and actually stream other games on her PL account

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:41:28 2021 No.14969777 >>14969704 He ripped since his tops were incorrect for a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:42:33 2021 No.14969812 >>14969760 It's sea midnight now not surprised

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:42:42 2021 No.14969820 >>14969777 ? as far as I know I never saw something incorrect in his tops

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:43:59 2021 No.14969877 >>14969820 It's just salty nijiniggers trying to gaslight the thread, again. Don't pay them any mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:44:16 2021 No.14969886 Seems like the second HoloEN Christmas POV is going to be Sana. Watson is turning on her saviorfag mentality once again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:46:00 2021 No.14969955 >>14969820 lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:46:10 2021 No.14969964 >>14969760 reminds me of tokyo ghoul's vampire cover

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:46:53 2021 No.14969992
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>46,691 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>30,074 :: Gura (Hololive)
>26,022 :: Noel (Hololive)
>23,115 :: Laplus (Hololive)
>21,393 :: Suisei (Hololive)
>20,725 :: Gura (Hololive)
>20,683 :: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji)
>19,672 :: Mysta Rias (Nijisanji)
>19,388 :: NIJISANJI English Official (Nijisanji)
>18,248 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,695 :: Noel (Hololive)
>16,656 :: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,655 :: Gachaman (Nijisanji)
>17,528 :: Ike Eveland (Nijisanji)
>16,374 :: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji)
>15,755 :: Polka (Hololive)
>15,437 :: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,807 :: Luca Kaneshiro
>14,393 :: Flare (Hololive)
>14,320 :: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,167 :: Miko (Hololive)
>12,009 :: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,003 :: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,349 :: Calli (Hololive)
>11,176 :: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,244 :: Lui (Hololive)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:47:06 2021 No.14970000 >>14969676 Huh? I thought that was a joke? They really did that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:47:14 2021 No.14970006 >>14969992 based, thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:47:56 2021 No.14970037 >>14969992 >16,655 :: Gachaman (Nijisanji) WAIT WAIT, should be >16,655 :: Gachaman (Indie) Fix in your minds

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:48:16 2021 No.14970044

>>14969820
There were one or two borderline (just barely over) 10ks that got missed.
>>14969886
JFC. Really, Kiara and Sana? Putting these big event POVs on their channels isn't going to help when the reason they aren't popular is their own goddamn fault!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:48:23 2021 No.14970049 >>14969030 Enma was a better management representation

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:48:56 2021 No.14970074 >>14969992 based lamy shitting on pwease

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:48:58 2021 No.14970076 >>14970000 We do not joke about china. also see >>14969754

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:49:00 2021 No.14970078 File: 1.41 MB, 850x1300, virtual real.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14969676 >Virtualreal was forced to tweet out a message commemorating nanking on the anniversary, >>14970000 >Huh? I thought that was a joke? They really did that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:49:32 2021 No.14970095 >>14970000 No joke. >>14969588 >>14969754

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:49:51 2021 No.14970107 >>14970044 Don’t be retarded, others are doing POV too but haven’t put a frame up. Kiara thought only Ame was putting a frame up until today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:50:05 2021 No.14970121 >>14970049 I think that was exactly what they were trying to snuff out when they made "Omega" an official character. Turnover on middle management for Hololive is brutal, you have the girls talking about new managers every so often.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:50:23 2021 No.14970131 >>14969992 >Midget Lui-nee 10k What happened?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:50:38 2021 No.14970139 >>14970078 Why didn't the 1989 event get a tweet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:50:45 2021 No.14970144 >>14969992 Was fubuki's pokemon stream counted on yesterday?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:51:01 2021 No.14970159 >>14970078 why are bugs like this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:51:12 2021 No.14970165 >>14970107 Taking meds now. Actually, I should probably sleep for a few hours, brain fried on FFXIV

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:53:09 2021 No.14970237 >>14969992 >Suisei beating miko in split pov Wtf happened? Did overlaps happened?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:53:41 2021 No.14970255

>>14969992
>>11,176 :: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
If it wasn't for NijiEN Nijisanji would only have 2 ranked streams. Hololive got 17. NijiEN was only 3 spots from meddling.

At some point NijiEN will start getting ranked. I mean HoloEN only got 4 from 3 members.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:53:52 2021 No.14970260 >>14970131 debut buff running out

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:53:55 2021 No.14970261 File: 56 KB, 340x148, 135248.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] de gozaru got 900k yen today

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:54:00 2021 No.14970266 >>14968904 The censored version is honestly more aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:54:03 2021 No.14970268 >>14970095 You have a link for that post?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:54:05 2021 No.14970271 >>14970131 not doing a SC reading or talking stream for starters

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:54:08 2021 No.14970274 File: 836 KB, 843x1080, image_2021-12-20_185320.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's with Rushia streaming at this hour? She might have insomnia again. Also, have her numbers slightly dipped since December (pokemon) started?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:54:39 2021 No.14970294 NijiEN would only be acknowledged if it could break through 50k at the least. All HoloEN members already got 1 of it. If not, then they'll forever be irrelevant, no matter how many gens they are gonna debut.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:54:56 2021 No.14970303

>>14968448
>>14968538
The character bios could have been reduced to a single 4-5 sentence paragraph while conveying the same amount of information, and they could have avoided trying to force character traits that don’t match the streamers’ personalities (Bae isn’t a chaotic person and Kronii isn’t a sadist). Then they shut down the one good idea that played into the character lore, further demoralizing someone who was already a nervous wreck. Omega likes to portray itself as a creative director/project lead, but has done a pretty shitty job of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:55:23 2021 No.14970318 >>14970237 Suisei is the better MK player. Micometfags just went to the winning side

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:55:34 2021 No.14970329 >>14970294 Says who?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:55:48 2021 No.14970335 File: 3 KB, 221x58, 1623321346911.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14970266

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:55:51 2021 No.14970337 >>14970237 It's a Marika collab and Suisei is the better player there. Also Miko was overslept and almost immediately lost the challenge.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:56:12 2021 No.14970349 >>14970274 Her pokemon streams plus her weird random schedules outside the gen 3 funnel lately really affected her numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:56:15 2021 No.14970352 >>14970131 https://holo.poi.cat/stream/gY4WvX_20X8

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:56:49 2021 No.14970367 >>14970329 says the reasoned minds of the numbers thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:58:16 2021 No.14970420 File: 424 KB, 1203x825, Sana_mc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sana got 6.6k last night but only $500 in SCs. I'm not sure Selen can catch her average. Median might still be within reach.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 16:59:04 2021 No.14970459

>>14970329
Says the primal soul of this thread

Anyway, 50k is the least they could do for being second biggest vtuber company in the world. Ads, OG song, twitter, first biggest male gen EN debut. All of these buffs and they can't even break 30k. Myth debuted without much fanfare, and still got 60k+ for their debuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:00:02 2021 No.14970486 >>14970420 She only broke into 6k due to funnel. Her SCs are also dipping, which seems like she's losing gachi too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:01:53 2021 No.14970550 >>14970294 >>14970329 50k is a good number, even Nimuvt achieved that ALONE. VShojo have yet to breakthrough 20k in their own company collab/event

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:01:59 2021 No.14970552 >>14970303 Bae trying to portray the chaos part of her character is honestly holding her back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:03:07 2021 No.14970595 >>14970420 that funnel is from Gura? they migrated pretty quick

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:03:33 2021 No.14970613 >>14970550 Vshojo doesn’t really have to have that large of a fanbase who watches their streams as a company. No matter what buff they give themselves they pretty much always have around the same amount of viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:03:37 2021 No.14970615 >>14970420 >>14970486 Well that's what happens when you don't get your priorities straight

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:03:39 2021 No.14970616 >>14970420 Fubuki is getting superb viewer numbers but her superchats are still subpar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:03:40 2021 No.14970617 >>14970337 Miko overslept again? I hope she is ok.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:03:58 2021 No.14970629
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>>14970237
Miko overslept 20 minutes while Suisei started on time and entertained audiences, which stayed because she's the better Mario Kart player.
Peak for the first stream was right at the end too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:04:32 2021 No.14970650 >>14970486 Pretty much she doesn't care at this point She is just happy of having the braggings rights to be a Holo and that's it Unironically a stolen spot for another more deserving vtuber due nepotism

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:04:39 2021 No.14970654 >>14969992 Pekora boosted the fuck out of Polka, Jesas. I don't remember the last time I saw her chart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:04:41 2021 No.14970657 >>14970420 Yeah, Selen got left in the dust by based Sana. Sana I kneel!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:06:14 2021 No.14970701 >>14970486 EN generally doesn't SC very much during collabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:06:15 2021 No.14970703 >>14970255 You must take into account all the streams except the main channel were debut and I think that nijiEN will take a while to have daily streams in the 10k chart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:06:43 2021 No.14970716 >>14970701 Same goes for JP actually.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:06:46 2021 No.14970717 >>14970459 This People are saying they got good numbers for NijiEN but that is bullshit. Nijisanji is a titan in the vtubing world so they should have gotten much higher. The fact that they didn't is a massive failure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:07:20 2021 No.14970736 So nijiEN girls are just becoming accessories to nijiEN males at this rate?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:07:34 2021 No.14970746

>>14970552
I think part of her recent incline is that she’s starting to move away from it and act natural. Lore has definitely hurt her growth the most. Kronii at least gets some gap moe from how she fails to live up to the narcissistic sadist persona, Fauna and Sana match their lore but it doesn’t help them, and Mumei could have gotten a boost if she was allowed to do something with her lore, but it’s also the least restraining for her because civilization is such a broad theme that she can do practically anything without straying from it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:08:05 2021 No.14970769 >>14970650 It's why I dropped her. I'm tired of waiting for her to turn around and get her stuff together. At this point, she really isn't going to change, so I'm bowing out for good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:08:19 2021 No.14970776 >>14970335 NTA, but flat chest is just better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:08:45 2021 No.14970793 >>14970654 I mean, we can check >12,865 - 21 days ago Challenge Pokemon stream https://holo.poi.cat/stream/CtkbDH_wk6w

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:08:56 2021 No.14970799 >>14970776 yeah and I'm sure you enjoy the taste of chink cum too

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:09:32 2021 No.14970817 >>14970701 Sana hasn't been SC that much during these past streams. There are some familiar names, but a lot of the gachis haven't come back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:09:52 2021 No.14970832 >>14970769 I agree, plus we can always subscribe back if she ever get her shit together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:10:15 2021 No.14970848 >>14970736 None of the girl stream today and Selen ran over to twitch. They can feel it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:10:53 2021 No.14970876 >>14970799 Nah, I would rather have the taste of cunny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:11:26 2021 No.14970900 >>14970848 >They can feel it. yeah they are having an orgy right now. poor nijifags

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:11:56 2021 No.14970915 >>14970876 and yet you lick chinese worm filled pussy, I wonder why that is

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:12:23 2021 No.14970934

>>14970817
Can you blame them? She barely streams.
>>14970746
Personally I’ve been enjoying Mumei recently since she’s been acting more like a gremlin and tends to say some dark shit randomly. Causes some sort of whiplash effect. I don’t like the autotune during her karaoke though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:12:59 2021 No.14970961 >>14970848 Nijisanji management has told the girls that their time is up. Mass graduations coming up. Sorry Reimu.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:13:00 2021 No.14970964

>>14970486
Sana is only averaging $800 per stream this month. She usually averages $1k.
>>14970459
NijiEN males have more potential than the females. All they need is for male vtubers to catch on since they will be the only big corpo option. Female vtubers are already a well established thing in EN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:13:02 2021 No.14970966 is Sana a graduate directly after contract ends situation (niji) or a leech for years off the bigger names in the company situation (holos like Aki and Choco)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:13:13 2021 No.14970974 >>14969992 GO SUISEI. NUMBER 5 although she did two streams and the second one had a much smaller peak and probably tanked her average

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:13:25 2021 No.14970980 >>14970915 (You)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:14:00 2021 No.14971003 >>14970848 Finana is streaming over Luca

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:14:22 2021 No.14971017

>>14970616
FBK will earn enough to skyrocket to chloe/lamy/rushia levels in one day… if she gets that shiny fish

>>14970486
Thats on her and her manager who allowed her to go so far. She already began with a debuff and her content and breaks broke any possible way to dig out of the low-tier holo hole early.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:14:36 2021 No.14971023 >>14970966 Hopefully she will graduate, but Hololive is easy money and low hours so she will probably stay like the other deadweights.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:14:42 2021 No.14971025 >>14970980 Chinks and chink symphatizers deserve the rope

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:15:09 2021 No.14971036 >>14970980 have you tried not being a zhang?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:15:31 2021 No.14971040 >>14970966 Choco helped build hololive. No way she is just a leech, she's just a part of her hard work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:15:51 2021 No.14971054 File: 49 KB, 1456x192, shinyvc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14970420 They're trying their best to boost Sana.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:16:20 2021 No.14971074

>>14970966
Sana provides art on demand, which apparently is worth more than trying to pressure her to become a better streamer.
Aki and Choco got hamstrung by bad circumstances (car accident + chink flu taking out one of her strongest abilities which is that she's a really good dancer, Choco getting bonked by YT going nuts over ASMR).
Sana won't be graduating so long as she feels she's being treated fairly and is also meeting whatever art demands Cover has for her.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:16:30 2021 No.14971077

>>14970964
>Sana is only averaging $800 per stream this month. She usually averages $1k.
She deserves this. This is the entertainment industry, the second most ruthless industry in the world.

>All they need is for male vtubers to catch on since they will be the only big corpo option.
The real question here is: Will they catch on before or after Holostars English drops?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:17:24 2021 No.14971100 >>14971054 How about we see some goddamn effort out of Sana to actually incline on her own first eh? No I will NOT take my meds, I will NOT be ogey!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:17:33 2021 No.14971110 >>14970420 Only 6.6k in Minecraft and only after a funnel? I wonder what pass on her manager mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:18:05 2021 No.14971126 >>14971077 you talk as if holofans will watch males

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:18:36 2021 No.14971145 >>14971074 Choco carried in the early days and did 5+ streams a day. All her passion for streaming died when she lost almost her entire archive during the holocaust.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:18:53 2021 No.14971155 >>14971100 >goddamn effort Effort from Council? You're a funny anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:19:11 2021 No.14971167 >>14971077 >Holostars English drops Anon ...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:19:27 2021 No.14971175 >>14970848 >Selen ran over to twitch wait she did? >Apex Legends stream from 9 hours ago. Ah, bother, at least we can check the stats >2,718 peak viewers with no raids Exactly average for her, which raises some questions but whatever.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:20:00 2021 No.14971191

>>14970934
As one of her gachis, I don't. I've moved on and only wish her the best.

>>14970832
Maybe? I don't know if that's what I'll do later on. I'm tired of thinking of the 'what ifs' when it comes to her.

>>14970964
The pokemon long hours. The sudden break without any information. The fact that she can't find a balance with her schedules and streaming content. I've reached my limit with her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:20:55 2021 No.14971222 >>14971054 >Mori plays Pokemon all the time, even during SC reading and zatsus >Sana plays Pokemon ALL the time I dunno anon, I think they just want to play Pokemon.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:21:47 2021 No.14971249

>>14971191
Sana did mention she was going to be taking a break and the reasons for it, but she clearly fucked up in communicating both how long it would be for and WHEN it would be happening. To most, it was as if she just suddenly went silent and then suddenly came back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:22:10 2021 No.14971260 >>14971191 >I've reached my limit with her. That's fair enough anon, out of curiosity how much did you give to her over the months? It don't need to be an exact value.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:22:32 2021 No.14971274 >holoen collab >no gura pov damn why did they choose the dreaded slot, initial number is going to be shit

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:23:18 2021 No.14971304

>>14971126
I never even said that, but their association with Hololive is not to be understated. It will at least create enough buzz that curious onlookers would at least give the debuts a shot. Whether they pick up a CCV above 2 will be up to them and whether they are entertaining or not.
>>14971167
Go. Come up with whatever thought crossed your mind and pretend that I said something as if I know nothing of the Holostar situation or the male chuuba market prospects.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:23:35 2021 No.14971320

>>14971249
She did mention it, but she purposely didn't say 'when' and then she dropped after the membership watchalong. I feel like the reason she suddenly came back was after a few people including Pako pushed her to show signs of life on youtube, since she was just liking art on twitter and not saying anything.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:23:35 2021 No.14971318

>>14970966
>(holos like Aki and Choco)
Fighting words. Choco lead gen2 in the early days before the rest learned to run. I cant defend Aki though but she did make use of the 2020 EOP buff as much as she could. Her current numbers boil down to the fact that she’s not streaming as much

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:24:40 2021 No.14971361 Fauna had been stuck at 399k for like an entire day, did she fuck up yet another stream or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:25:54 2021 No.14971413 >>14971274 It's because of Kiara. Because the goddamn chicken is present they HAVE to do this slot or else she's staying up all night.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:26:17 2021 No.14971425 >>14971361 everyone suffered a minor sub cull, probably from all the "spam viewers" that nijiEN attracted during their debut

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:26:17 2021 No.14971424 >>14971361 She deleted her latest ASMR stream due to greyniggers ruining the mood of the stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:27:18 2021 No.14971462 >>14971260 I'm ashamed to share, but it was quite a lot. I've gone from a bad gacha addiction to spending it on vtubers. Sana got around 500 or so from me without counting small donos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:27:39 2021 No.14971473 File: 457 KB, 1440x1841, HoloJP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think HoloJP is dying What do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:28:11 2021 No.14971489 >>14971424 This only makes me think that ASMR should be member's only content across the board, numbers be damned. It will at least let you have control over the behavior of chat culture, which can then be filtered onto the greys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:29:21 2021 No.14971521 >>14971473 Post debut hype is over

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:29:28 2021 No.14971526 >>14971489 Just make it members only chat, no need to go that far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:29:58 2021 No.14971543 >>14971473 Anon right now is 3 am in japan.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:30:16 2021 No.14971555

>>14970420
At this point she should've just become a poketuber instead of a Holo. That is literally all she streams nowadays. Even today there's gonna be a pokemon stream. I regret membering to her earlier this month. I got my 3 month badge and I guess i'm dipping the fuck out. I'll come back when she decides to stream different things and not for a 12 hour sitting everyday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:30:24 2021 No.14971560 >>14970961 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:30:53 2021 No.14971578 >>14971473 >Marine is reclining hard >Rushia is reclining hard >Pekora was reclining hard Gen 3 really is reclining hard Pekora now only got buff by new outfit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:31:13 2021 No.14971590 >>14971555 Pokémon perms end whenever the JP tournament ends iirc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:32:56 2021 No.14971663 >>14971249 These breaks are absolutely murdering her progress Jesus Christ. It's baffling that someone would apparently intentionally stack so many debuffs on themselves. Perhaps Cover wanted her more for her art/illustration than as a streamer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:33:08 2021 No.14971668 >>14971555 Be glad that Pokemon permissions aren't permanent. Otherwise, things would get really dicey when it comes to people playing Pokemon forever (hah)...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:33:13 2021 No.14971672 >>14971590 then what? is she gonna have another boring 23 hour stream where her SC's derail her from making progress with the same stupid sorry joke, and she repeats the same kayfabe quirks over and over again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:33:21 2021 No.14971679 Nijiniggers are really going in on Sana in this thread aren't they? I know they are probably filled with dread after the debuts yesterday flopped but you don't need to deflect like that, jeez.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:34:04 2021 No.14971708 >>14971543 >3 am in japan It's 2:30 in Japan and they steam 2 hours ago and Fubuki could get 40k in the midnight not excuse

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:34:31 2021 No.14971722 >>14971413 >a lone chicken had to affect everyone and their bigger audience selfish fuck. if she is truly a numberfag, she should sacrifice, it's a special collab. the rest of EN sat throughout the Sportfes until they dropped dead

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:34:46 2021 No.14971734 >>14971679 Fuck off to your containment thread, Sanalite. Your Oshi is the Numbers Devil and she deserves the shit that she gets for being the way that she is.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:35:26 2021 No.14971759

>>14971672
You know I was thinking, Mori and Kiara espeically evolved a lot as streamers over their first year. Like any other skill you gotta put in your reps/hours to improve. Sana is like someone who's been to the gym for 3 weeks doing some hyper niche split designed for shot put specialists or something. Yes her program sucks but she's also a total newb with basically no experience. She could still improve but my hope fades by the day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:35:42 2021 No.14971765 >>14971668 Fubuki would possible turn into the most watcher female streamer if the permission lasted forever, as long as her shit lucky keep up of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:35:58 2021 No.14971780 >>14971473 >2.27am jst Are you a retard, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:37:13 2021 No.14971825 >>14971759 Really? I feel like Kiara has gotten worse as a streamer over the year, her setup definitely improved though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:37:16 2021 No.14971827 >>14971765 since Fubuki's original plan is to do a shiny-only run, she won't stop shiny hunting even after she got the Magikarp. hell, she's even planning to shiny reset for a shiny Fug!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:37:18 2021 No.14971828 >>14971668 Another pokemon game release on Jan 2022. Wonder if they'll get permission for that too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:37:26 2021 No.14971833 >>14971679 don't mind them, their new wave lost to Sana so they needed a way to cope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:37:36 2021 No.14971835 >>14969992 Lamy! チュ〜

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:37:50 2021 No.14971842 >>14971780 FUBUKING drained his brain

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:38:00 2021 No.14971846 SCs for December Bae: $15929 in 11 streams Kronii: $13571 in 11 streams Fauna: $8573 in 12 streams Mumei: $7360 in 13 streams Council still isn't good at SCs, Kronii and Bae are on pace to be in the top 20 in the world but I doubt it somehow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:38:14 2021 No.14971855 >>14971827 She also want a shiny Feebas, just imagine how long that will take.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:39:21 2021 No.14971897 >>14971846 >Bae has that much WTF

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:39:47 2021 No.14971914 >>14971897 She got the koreans, that's why

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:39:48 2021 No.14971915 >>14971846 Bae being the number 1 in SCs is just wild.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:39:58 2021 No.14971917 >>14971708 The only stream remotly comparable to Fubuking fhisihing is the Flare one, Rushia is playing pokemon normaly, Hachama is singing and Polka is Reading fucking bed stories what numbers do you want.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:40:05 2021 No.14971921 >>14971897 Bae got Korean gachis

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:40:14 2021 No.14971927 >>14971304 At least wait until debut buff is over anon, then see if male chuuba market is viable or not. Something with debuff like holostar can't survive if something neutral like nijiEN males can flop weeks after debut

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:40:16 2021 No.14971929 >>14971846 >Bae: 15K When did that happen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:40:45 2021 No.14971950 >>14971825 Kiara's problems could partially be mitigated with better scheduling and programming choices. Her ability to manage a stream, chat, and technical issues have improved I'd say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:40:50 2021 No.14971956 >>14971897 Chloe makes more than that every other day.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:40:54 2021 No.14971958

>>14971759
I don't think so.. Sana doesn't want to change any of it. She's always been explicit that she likes the way it is - she's not treating it as a 'race' or something to worry over. I'm glad that she's been upfront, but there isn't a lot of SOUL anymore in her content. She's cute and witty. I like her a lot, but I'm just tired on trying to excuse her streaming antics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:41:11 2021 No.14971966 >>14971855 if i were her, she should just beg for a foreigner shiny ditto and breed for one. the suffering isn't worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:41:11 2021 No.14971965 >>14971897 Someone hasn't been paying attention. She's been pulling some Korean gachi, so her JP time streams have been doing really well SC wise even if they aren't the greatest for her median CCV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:41:17 2021 No.14971973 >>14971473 I think this anon is a retard What do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:42:37 2021 No.14972010 >>14971966 Just think of the numbers anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:43:20 2021 No.14972033 >>14971965 Some Korean learning streams with Ina and Kronii could really lock down those Kr bros. Kronii especially is beloved by clippers, her clip with Kiara has 350K views in 4 days

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:43:36 2021 No.14972042 >>14971950 She killed off the whole bottom left thing without much effort at least. Don’t know if that says more about her fans or that she managed to control her fans to that degree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:43:55 2021 No.14972053 >>14971973 I agree with your assessment

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:44:45 2021 No.14972083 >>14972042 The bottom left meme was the most entertaining thing she had to be honest, if she actually killed it then it was a mistake.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:45:07 2021 No.14972092

>>14971927
I was making the same point as you, anon. I was simply establishing the possibility of a starsEN to happen and whether or not it is Nijimales or Holomales to make it successful. The most important part is that they need to be really good entertainers if any of them want to have an audience worth giving a damn.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:45:52 2021 No.14972112

>>14970934
With Mumei, BotW really gave her the confidence boost she needed. The dark stuff was present at least as early as the Jackbox collab with her blood money comment and then her Passpartout streams, but didn’t come completely out in the open until her second Rimworld stream and the DbD collab after it. The gremlin side of her was present at least as far back as the Portal arc in Minecraft, when she and Gura gaslit Kronii for half an hour, then guilt-tripped her into building the berry farm when she got killed in retaliation. Open
world games like BotW give her an opportunity to let that side of her out by slaughtering and trash-talking NPCs, so more game content along those lines would be good for her, especially since BotW is usually a debuff game. I’d agree that the autotune is best relegated to being a weird SC reading gimmick.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:46:19 2021 No.14972125

>>14972042
She has a small but very dedicated fanbase which unfortunately are complete yes men. She wants to appeal to the general audience more but she can't get any real feedback since they don't watch her in significant numbers compared to KFP. But the intractable issue is she lives in fucking EU. It kills her ability to collab and saddles her with a miserable timeslot. Wonder if she'd ever consider moving to NA or JP timezone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:46:21 2021 No.14972127 >>14972083 There is nothing worse in entertainment than a gag overstaying its welcome, anon.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:47:15 2021 No.14972161

>>14971759
Sana is too stubborn in her ways. She doesn't see streaming as anything but doing what she likes. It's both a noble thing about her, and something that is really holding her back from growing her audience. There was no need for her to join Hololive if she isn't interested in growing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:48:02 2021 No.14972200

>>14972125
anon, she knows exactly what she needs to do to appeal to a wider audience. She just refuses to do it because she thinks that altering her content for numbers is violating her integrity as a streamer or someshit. If she truly wants to appeal to a wider audience she wouldn't keep doing those stupid long JRPG streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:48:45 2021 No.14972231 >>14972161 It's killing her audience too. We all want to support her, but it's getting harder to do so when she's this stubborn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:49:30 2021 No.14972257 >>14971846 Boyfriend debuff...

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:50:20 2021 No.14972287

>>14972161
>There was no need for her to join Hololive if she isn't interested in growing.
I'm starting to think she is worse than Aloe in this regard. At least Aloe had an understandable reason for basically throwing her success away (menhera borne out of a dysfunctional family). What is Sana's excuse?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:50:21 2021 No.14972288 >>14972161 if she completes that tall ass pile of garbage on minecraft, she might encounter redemption

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:50:56 2021 No.14972301 >>14971590 last time their perms ended two weeks after the tournament

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:51:26 2021 No.14972319 >>14972257 Roberu...

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:51:30 2021 No.14972322

>>14972200
I'm not sure that's true. I mean she literally said she isn't sure how to appeal to a wider audience verbatim in a semi recent stream. I think she's afraid she has pigeon holed herself and is worried she will alienate her core audience while also failing to pickup a new one. I mean this is reasonable to some extent. It would take a while to find a new audience especially in her slot and she risks losing out on both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:52:16 2021 No.14972344 >>14972287 being australian

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:52:50 2021 No.14972363 >>14972322 >alienate her core audience if they are yesmen to begin with they'd support and not monopolize her attention

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:52:52 2021 No.14972366

>>14972288
Has she ever said what that was? It's like the biggest thing on the damn server, it's a legit megastructure and could be cool. Is it a PPP replacement? Ahhhhhh Sana just be reasonable. People would and have literally killed for an opportunity like yours

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:53:04 2021 No.14972374

>>14972125
As a long time fan of hers and also a Euro who at least appreciates her slot. The amount of concernfagging tied to her makes me want to strangle some of my fellow employees. The Outlast stream being a prime example (I was so fucking glad to be vindicated) and the more recent Mario Kart that she clearly sounded halfy half on because the only En to sit it out even its not the best time would only end up being something she regretted later. I honestly want her to move beyond her comfort zone. But at this point the only hope I have is that Myth or Council give her a little nudge. If collabing more makes her happier I want that since she had a blast with Kronii. It looks like that may be happening since her Holo interaction has begun to increase. So I'm crossing my fingers.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:53:07 2021 No.14972375

>>14972042
>>14972125
People call KFP a cult for a reason. I’ve seen people say that the chats for Holobirds in general are like cults, but I don’t know enough about Subaru’s and Reine’s chats to comment on those, and it’s probably too early to tell for Lui.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:53:49 2021 No.14972405

>>14972231
Yeah.

I was a day 1 member/viewer, and actually one of the few sanalites on this site that fought against numberfags bullying her, etc.

But it's becoming hard to defend her when it seems like she's purposefully going out of her way to kill the few audience she has left.

I still feel incredibly bad for her about her dog dying, and I understand the sadness as a pet owner myself, but after that was when she really needed to focus on what she needed to do to save her numbers/build the chemistry between her and her genmates. Instead she just spent a majority of the last month playing Pokemon on her own.
She completely feels out of her element during collabs/while playing minecraft. It just makes me wonder why she's even here, anymore..

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:53:50 2021 No.14972406 >>14972344 Haachama... Kiar...

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:56:11 2021 No.14972507

>>14972374
Tbf it was a Gura collab but pulling 20K for Outlast in the afternoon NA was petty great for Kiara, I'm really surprised she's still resistant to branching out after that success.

That Kiara/Kronii collab had great chemistry and really brought out a fun element in both of them. Kiara needs a good straight man who can take some ribbing and Kronii needs someone who can raise the energy level and keep her on her toes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:56:40 2021 No.14972521 >>14972405 Kinda makes me appreciate how Kiara was forcing Kronii out of her shell. She seemed way more talkative than usual in her last zatsudan.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:57:40 2021 No.14972558

>>14971846
most of coucnil have bf so i will SC the one that doesnt have bf which is bae. With roberu its just her crush since her early days im glad she had a chance to talk to her oshi (next will be marine soon and subaru one day) its one of her dreams

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 17:59:22 2021 No.14972625

Sana is doing fine and all the doom posters need some perspective. Sana is the runt of EN but that isn't a bad thing. Fans if EN will burn out if they try to watch everybody so the fans picking their favorites and not watching everybody actually shows health in the branch. It shows the personalities and content are diverse enough for people to branch out like that. Sana being the runt isn't a bad thing and she can be compared to Roboco, Mel, Aki, etc. from JP. Only their dedicated fans will watch their daily streams but they will usually out up numbers during collabs as well as adding another diverse personality to a collab.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:00:53 2021 No.14972687
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Thought this was a VSPO at first but no, it's a deep voiced dude making beats with Minecraft musical blocks.
How is some dude getting this high a viewer/subscriber ratio?
>M.S.S Project - Musical group
>Jpop - 2009
Anyone know more about him?
Did a proper Japanese musician actually become a vtuber.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:01:32 2021 No.14972707

>>14972092
I can't expect they'll get good audition participants though. Cover male talents track record isn't good too and when they market it as male idol it's a little bit of turn off from general audience. Moreover, we don't know what will happen to the already established holoEN audience.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:02:35 2021 No.14972741

>>14972625
Except her dedicated fans are not showing up anymore. Her gachis also moving away from her. I hate how much this board derails actual conversation into 'doomposting' or 'falseflagging' when it comes to sharing criticism or member experiences. Yet, still shits on the streamers when they don't show any growth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:03:17 2021 No.14972768 >>14972687 >M.S.S Project Isn't that a vocaloid group? I seem to recall hearing about them back when I was in /a/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:04:19 2021 No.14972804 >>14972687 https://www.wikiwand.com/ja/M.S.S_Project appearently they are pretty famous

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:05:05 2021 No.14972832 >>14972405 Fucking, thank you. I'm also a day 1 member/viewer and it pains me to talk about this. I usually would defend her non-stop, but I can't anymore. It's pretty clear others are feeling the same way too.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:06:14 2021 No.14972858

>>14972625
>Sana
>doom posters
Is there any actual doom post about Sana? Everyone is calling her out for continuous shitty decisions. Even RBC, Mel, Aki and even Choco posters here aren't afraid of calling out their oshi for all the bad points about them. The difference between them is that JP's are mostly just unlucky and a product of their time. Sana should know better by this point what NOT to do but does it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:08:37 2021 No.14972952 File: 1.82 MB, 848x480, 1579975352607.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14971846 Literally NijiEN numbers. Council is such a flop. But to be fair outside Mori and Kiara Myth isn't doing much better. HoloEN is reclining so hard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:10:13 2021 No.14973001 >>14972832 I’m surprised at how many sanalites are on here (I was day 1 as well). It’s frustrating in general to me since NijiEN are at least grinding their asses off trying to increase their audience. Whether that’s working or not is up to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:12:09 2021 No.14973066 >>14972625 >Fans if EN will burn out if they try to watch everybody so the fans picking their favorites and not watching everybody actually shows health in the branch HEY NIJICOEP ANON, ONE MORE FOR YOUR LIS- >WAIT, WHAT!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:12:40 2021 No.14973086 >>14973001 It's working for sure.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:15:40 2021 No.14973180

>>14972832
>>14972405
Put it pretty nicely into words anon.
I'm still seeing great potential from her, but no structure, no stability.
I never know when she's streaming and i haven't caught a stream in so long that YT straight doesn't recommend them anymore.
No one is clipping her anymore either. She had a drawing collab with Faufau and Meimei on her channel and no one talked about. The only popular clips are of Mumei even.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:16:35 2021 No.14973220

why the threadalwasy talk about sana at this hour?
se did really well yesterday and she gets SC only during her chat interactions which she does plenty so yesterday being a collab is no surprise it is less.

But anyway holo christmas colllab in the afternoon. Probably 3 POVs. Ame, sana and maybe another one.
Also how did te nijien homos performed today?
or havent streamed yet?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:17:06 2021 No.14973235

>>14973001
I flat out switched to the male wave. Their hours go with my schedule right now and I like their personalities. It's also the fact that it feels like they want it and are working for it.

MYTH - I still have my faves and will watch them. I'm just done with council as a whole. I stuck around to watch Sana and for Sana. If I can't even watch her anymore, I don't see a reason to stick around to promote them. I do wish them the best, but I've been filtered from this gen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:17:57 2021 No.14973264 >>14973235 So you are a larper, and a gae. Thank you for the confirmation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:18:21 2021 No.14973271 Ok you can stop now, the samefagging has become too obvious.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:19:38 2021 No.14973305

Sometimes i wonder how many members there are on each girl from the 3 i can sift through personally
Ames newest poll shows 4.2k votes from members
4 weeks ago Mumei had a members post with 2.2k likes
And Faunas highest ones recently were 850 likes range 3 to 4 weeks ago
And these are only people who engage with likes or votes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:19:39 2021 No.14973306 >>14973220 Because yesterday the Blue Archive stream was her first in 9 days. Did you even notice she was gone anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:20:12 2021 No.14973328 >>14973220 The tutorial boss is always hated.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:20:19 2021 No.14973333

>>14973001
>It’s frustrating in general to me since NijiEN are at least grinding their asses off trying to increase their audience. Whether that’s working or not is up to you.
It is working. Slow and Stead(tm) may be a meme here because of who said and why it was said, but it none the less is true for NijiEN. Hopefully they catch their groove and deliver us from the possibility of VShojo being the number 2 EN chuuba company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:20:19 2021 No.14973332 >>14972625 Sana isn't doing great even relative to her own gen. The main reason to not worry is because Hololive was never a primary source of income for her it's just a fun thing she does on the side like Pochi mama.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:22:17 2021 No.14973397
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>>14973180
There's one Sana clipper that only clips Fauna now and he's also clipped some of the other girls. I just remembered that after reading your reply.

>>14973264
Not gae and not a larper, either. Just sharing input on the one streamer I actually liked from Council and supported. So fuck off for trying to derail the conversation. You don't watch Sana nor care about her growth unless it's to throw it at the Nijis face. The fact that she's plummeting is bad and I HATE IT.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:22:22 2021 No.14973401 >>14973333 >VShojo They are #3. Nimuvt #2, nijien is fith.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:23:17 2021 No.14973429

>>14973333
Vshojo is already the number 2 en chuuba company, it just isn't brought up here very often because the number of actual vshojo fans in this thread can be counted on one hand and the presence of nijiniggers afflicted with small dog syndrome makes nijiEN seem much more competitive than they actually are.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:23:19 2021 No.14973431

>>14972858
unrelated i guess, but i wonder if any of the old holos can make a comeback. before someone argues about fubuking, the situation there is way different because she's pretty much in the same situation as she's always been where her viewership is good, but has it's ups and downs and right now is a very extreme up(and not really something you can replicate.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:23:23 2021 No.14973434 >>14973397 mucho texto, show your membership

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:23:39 2021 No.14973437 >>14973306 yeah she talked about it on her pokemon streams she got house remodelations and couldnt stream on her ouse. Watch streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:24:19 2021 No.14973465 >>14973401 who's number four?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:25:05 2021 No.14973485

>>14973180
>No one is clipping her anymore either.
>>14973397
>There's one Sana clipper that only clips Fauna now
It's hard to devote yourself to clip someone that does not stream regularly.

With very rare exceptions (like Anya or Roboco) when you can ask this question
>why doesn't X get a higher audience
the answer is unavoidably
>because she doesn't stream regularly

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:25:18 2021 No.14973497 File: 14 KB, 548x84, Screen Shot 2021-12-20 at 2.25.04 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14973434

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:25:43 2021 No.14973510 File: 264 KB, 827x247, 1640018622901.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Make your bets, debut buff or gachafags? who will have more

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:26:40 2021 No.14973538

>>14973333
NijiEN has been the hardest working branch for recognition in Nijisanji in years. Even with their shitty twitter memes, there's still getting traction and exposure.
NijiJP have helped them out but it's a lot thanks to the managers pushing for many diverse collabs and getting permissions.

Especially now with the NijiENboys they're on a ladder going up and it'll help all the regular collab partners that stuck around.
I'm seeing Bonbon and Oliver getting quite a bit of boost this next month just from appearing with them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:27:01 2021 No.14973544

>>14973305
Thing is based on other sources like Twitch the majority of members probably aren’t even watching the stream. Much less chat. Much less vote or like. Among other things chatting on mobile is sort of annoying. 10-20% engagement is typical. So we have absolutely no idea aside from absolute floors and the very high likelihood real numbers are some multiple thereof

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:27:58 2021 No.14973568

>>14973431
If anything, they got the Hololive box to push them. It's all about setting a permanent daily schedule to heavily promote them and give them collab partners that will help push them up in the ranks (basically the "fake it til you make it" strategy). The only other alternative is for them to get a moment and capitalize on it heavily, but that's easier said than done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:28:20 2021 No.14973577 >>14973235 >was a Hololive fan >switched to male vtubers Holy false flag!! No Hololive fan would watch disgusting male vtubers. If you are going to false flag at least say you switched to Pomu or something, my god.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:28:38 2021 No.14973583 >>14973497 You get pass

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:29:27 2021 No.14973614

>>14973437
I'm the Same anon as from here
>>14973180
Straight up YT isn't pushing me her stuff anymore and i'm too tired to look up her channel to see if maybe she's streaming something other than pokemon nowadays.
Though, the last stream i did see was Dec 2 Pokemon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:31:03 2021 No.14973648 >>14973497 >Screen Shot couldn't be more fake

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:31:36 2021 No.14973663

>>14973485
True, true.

>>14973577
I am a femanon. Call it whatever you want, but it's the truth. I didn't say I was a hololive fan. I still am, but for the EN (aside from my favorites in MYTH) I have moved on. I've followed the Stars, but can't catch their streams, so the NIJIMales have better hours for me,

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:32:08 2021 No.14973675 >>14973434 Makes me wonder, how many people here are membered to Council members (+Irys)? Sana apparently has multiple.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:32:44 2021 No.14973689 File: 28 KB, 828x240, Screen Shot 2021-12-20 at 2.32.21 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14973648 Here have another one

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:32:52 2021 No.14973696 How did they manage to get mogged by ethyria's debut? I thought that was a low bar to clear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:32:55 2021 No.14973697 File: 142 KB, 640x905, sana futa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >NOT GONNA LIE, FORMER SANALITE HERE. It's fucking hilarious watching her crash and burn but, in all seriousness we can't let her get her hands on the horoscope codes!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:34:23 2021 No.14973741 >>14973510 The boys are already overlapping with each other?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:34:55 2021 No.14973756 >>14973689 >your perks will end on December 26. lucky you, mines ends on the 10th next month. Already membered to Kronii anyways. Will be membering to the orca when hers open as well, and probably Pekora soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:34:58 2021 No.14973757 >>14973689 >2:30PM Are you from New England and watch Sana? Does she even stream for those hours?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:35:11 2021 No.14973765 >>14973220 Ame, Kiara and Sana POV's later

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:35:14 2021 No.14973767 >>14973689 Do better, mismatch

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:36:21 2021 No.14973794 Why does Mumei seem to get constant high viewership? Her and Kronii seem to have very consistent viewership numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:36:45 2021 No.14973807 >>14973510 Nijifemales being made second fiddle the nijimales is my only desire

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:37:06 2021 No.14973814

>>14973675
That anon earlier in the thread posting about engagement on members-only posts was membered to Fauna and Mumei. I membered to Mumei for the members-only karaoke and the nightmare emote. Helped to have the context for that pregnancy comment when she joined Fauna’s RE7 stream that got clipped to hell and back.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:37:13 2021 No.14973820

>>14967356
It's gonna be interesting moving forward and seeing the trends on how the nijien girls' superchats, merch sales and general viewership gets affected by them flirting with the males on stream (professional/banter type collabs will probably be welcomed).
Today's NijiEN thread was gloating over purging the unicorns and I managed to collect quite a few amusing screenshots which will be hilarious if the girls' bottom lines actually start getting affected.

On the other hand, sunk cost fallacy and cuck mentality still exists, which may explain why the male wave was delayed for so long.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:37:30 2021 No.14973830
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>>14973794
They're the queen bees of council. Helps that they have Kromei going on, so most of their viewers support the other girl in hopes of seeing more moments between them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:37:40 2021 No.14973833
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>>14973741
You should look at NijiEN prime time today and the rest of the week. It's overlap central, the girls aren't going down without a fight

https://teamup.com/ks1mraas71v3fjf1c2

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:38:03 2021 No.14973845 File: 133 KB, 1457x593, nimu stats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14973401 >Nimuvt #2 yeah, about that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:38:16 2021 No.14973848 >>14973756 Same! I'm membering to the Orca. Second one will be Koyote for the ASMR. >>14973757 Not from NE, another place. Due to work, I suffer from insomnia so I stay up to watch her streams. The long hours sometimes kill me, lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:38:43 2021 No.14973858 >>14973794 >Why does X seem to get constant high viewership? Like mentioned at >>14973485, the answer is always >because X does what her audience wants, and does it consistently and at a predictable schedule See also: Nijisanji Lize

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:39:16 2021 No.14973877

>>14973614
well i just went to youtube home page and recomended me both the holo xmas collab and siny hunting frames.
Probably becasue i watched the minecraft collab of yesterday. That is why i said the things about her SC she is really good at chat interaction and gets money that way wihtout going hard on the gachi.
>>14973794
consitant timeslot and lack of debuff content lately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:40:31 2021 No.14973911 >>14973833 NIJIEN BATTLE ROYALE, CHRISTMAS SEASON EDITION! WILL THE GIRLS HOLD THE LINE, OR WILL THEY END UP AS MERE ACCESSORIES TO THE NEW MALE WAVE?! TUNE IN THIS WEEK TO FIND OUT!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:40:38 2021 No.14973917 File: 113 KB, 1092x562, Screen Shot 2021-12-20 at 2.40.07 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14973767 You're fucking delusional, Anon. Here have a bigger screenshot, then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:40:52 2021 No.14973928 >>14973820 NijiEN thread being cancer like usual it sounds like. I always wondered what was up with Niji threads and the disproportionate amount of male breed posting that happens

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:40:55 2021 No.14973930 >>14973845 >+ followers don't cut out the peak, it gives context who has more reach and clout

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:42:30 2021 No.14973968 >>14973917 The pixels don't lie anon. >S >H >O >P >E >P >D What does it spell?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:42:49 2021 No.14973979 >>14967764 HoloID probably Feb-March Niji new wave in March as well probably, then next one in June. Gonna make a bold prediction that HoloID is going to be the only new holo gen for the entirety of next year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:43:04 2021 No.14973987 >>14973845 What is vshojo actually average as a group? Peaks aren’t very useful on Twitch and hime etc exist

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:43:19 2021 No.14973992 >>14973928 After Reimu, we know the answer is fem-anon shitting up the place so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:43:48 2021 No.14974010 >>14973968 What fucking pixels? Jesas. Have a shitty computer, don't need to call me out like that, retardchama.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:44:48 2021 No.14974038 >>14973987 Vshojo has three members that consistently hits 8-10k. NijiEN doesn't have a single one and considers it a good day when their ace hits 5k

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:44:57 2021 No.14974044

>>14973987
>What is vshojo actually average as a group?

Here is from a month ago
>9280 :: nyanners (vshojo, 52 hours)
>7878 :: ironmouse (vshojo, 79 hours)
>7790 :: veibae (vshojo, 88 hours)
>3890 :: silvervale (vshojo, 28 hours)
>3374 :: zentreya (vshojo, 63 hours)
>3202 :: apricot (vshojo, 49 hours)
>3099 :: melody (vshojo, 39 hours)
>2228 :: hajime (vshojo, 8 hours)

I could update that but, yeah, I'm halfway on a vodka bottle and I'm not really feeling it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:46:02 2021 No.14974077 File: 60 KB, 500x500, pixels.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14974010 >NEWFAGS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM PIXELS laughin_ame_and_calli.jpg

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:46:22 2021 No.14974085
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>>14973820
I would be amused if 'purging of the unicorns' actually affect very little in their threads. I think most unicorns are falseflaggers and boogeymen.

In other news /vt/ had a big day in activity. I would put it mostly on the debuts but I actually think Gura's meme review did more of it since hlgg was going 45 posts a second and the NijiMale debuts were less than 10.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:47:59 2021 No.14974135 >>14973979 That wouldn't be too big of a surprise, but I could also see ONE more gen for EN for now, sometime in July.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:48:02 2021 No.14974136 >>14973928 The NijiEN thread has a similar thing going on like global used to have with that ayame anon. Everyone trying to groom larpers out here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:48:03 2021 No.14974140 File: 730 KB, 1031x580, 1616930023152.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14974085 Gura showed this on stream so yeah the thread went apeshit. I think it got almost 300 posts in under a minute

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:48:22 2021 No.14974149

>>14968352
Council lore was just too retardedly big in scope.
Even Myth was, to an extent, but talent and personality gap made up for it. Council didn't have those buffs.
Just see HoloX lore, they're somewhat grounded with just a "secret society" and still retain a lot of animal themes, allowing more audience interaction lore and in - company collab groups like holobirds to form naturally.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:49:36 2021 No.14974176 >>14974140 Containment breaker memes...

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:50:01 2021 No.14974186

>>14974085
I forgot to add that biggest peak was when Gura started. That the other spikes were during the debuts. The activity seems to have eclipsed the girls but I am not sure how to assess it since Gura's meme review skewed the numbers.
>>14974140
Did you guys tell Gura to fuck off? I'm sick of /here/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:50:23 2021 No.14974196 >>14974085 The male debuts have like two separate threads going on at the same time for some reason. I wonder what would have been the number of posts if anons just used the nijien thread only

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:50:33 2021 No.14974203 >>14974085 It was mainly Gura, /hlgg/ threads lasted 30 mins each while she was doing the meme review.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:50:43 2021 No.14974208 >>14974186 someone posted it on twitter along with a bunch of other /here/ memes so no

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:51:01 2021 No.14974216

>>14974085
Reminds me, I wonder how they will deal with the fujos/yume when the guys start collabing with the girls.
I recall some of the guys in NijiJP basically have to tell them off for annoying people.
I’ve met quite a few of this shipping types when I used to be more into the normie anime scenes and those girls are fucking crazy.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:51:21 2021 No.14974229

>>14974149
>Council lore was just too retardedly big in scope.
It's so fucking weird, when they quickly call MYTH their senpais. When the lore actually makes them out to be the 'senpais' to them. I do think that HoloX lore is more grounded, because of the 'secret society' thing and they don't tread on any of the other gens lore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:52:16 2021 No.14974257 >>14974186 Gura really failed to be subtle with this meme, it was kinda funny seeing ame trying to damage control

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:52:45 2021 No.14974270 >>14974216 I was going to say people worried about unicorns but what about the fujos for these nijimales if they get some how will they deal with nijifemale collabs

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:52:48 2021 No.14974273 >>14974216 you should've seen the chat when vox was doing his debut 2.0 stream earlier today, they were one step away from hollering and telling him to strip.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:53:42 2021 No.14974299 File: 101 KB, 249x249, 1639351946370.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14973917 anon they're baiting you. quit replying KEK >>14973848 Koyote's super cute, but my nihongo isn't jouzu enough to understand her at the speed she talks. sadge

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:53:50 2021 No.14974304 https://youtu.be/L995LjJOnO8 So this just popped into my recommendations.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:53:56 2021 No.14974308
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>>14974085
>I think most unicorns are falseflaggers and boogeymen.
They're not. People just misinterpret what an "unicorn" is.

Think of it as breaking the "suspension of disbelief". Nobody thinks of Calli as "yearning for Connor's cock" just because she appeared on Trash Taste (except false flaggers) and nobody thinks likewise about Sora and Gachaman, Choco and Roboco and Astel and this sort of pairing where there is no "sexual tension", no lusting, just comradery and banter.

But when the see things like
>pic related
it ruins it for them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:53:58 2021 No.14974311

>>14973756
Membering to Pekora is worth just to spam the smug emotes+ spam the ぶんぶんちゃ!ぶんぶんちゃ! At the beginning of her streams. She also stores the space archives from Twitter as membership streams but besides that she barely streams for the member-only Nousagis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:54:34 2021 No.14974324 >>14974216 I think Nina is the only one that can get away easily with those male collabs, i saw their chats and the fujos treat nina as one of their own. Must be that aunt energy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:55:48 2021 No.14974360 >>14974196 I don't think it'd hit global's 45 posts per minute. >>14974216 I think they'll find refuge in game streams since guys seem to watch those. I mean Kanae, Hayato, Kenmochi, Fuwa etc all have a majority male audience.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:56:06 2021 No.14974366

>>14973794
Other anons have mentioned the timeslot, consistency, and content, but she seems to have a higher floor than the rest of Council and even some of Myth. She rarely dips below 5k even for debuff games and SC readings. Are those first two factors enough to compensate for when the third doesn’t line up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:56:27 2021 No.14974375 >>14970261 she mentioned her mom watching the stream and everyone started superchatting for the mom. Chat got her to promise a mom collab when she gets to 1M, like pekomama.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:56:50 2021 No.14974383
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>>14974299
Thank you for the heads up, Anon. My nihongo isn't jouzu enough, either, but I'm willing to stick around just to hear her voice. (๑>ᴗ<๑) I like how soft it gets when she does ASMR.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:57:23 2021 No.14974402 >>14974257 Reminds me when Ina had to hold her back when Gura was talking about containment breaking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:58:09 2021 No.14974417 >>14974308 Do we have the equivalent of male chubbas doing this? I'm really trying to rationalize that this is normal

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:59:05 2021 No.14974450 >>14974417 Astel

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:59:46 2021 No.14974468 >>14974308 Well, western paypigs are probably more forgiving. I'm not sure why purging a massive source of income for the talents is a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 18:59:52 2021 No.14974473 >>14974417 they'll just call him a creep or rapist. same standards don't appeal to men.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:00:01 2021 No.14974475 >>14974417 not really, mostly because it comes off as creepy when men do that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:01:11 2021 No.14974513 File: 309 KB, 640x960, asdfsdf42_full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14974308 >cliche pose Turns out it is niji attracting weebs

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:04:30 2021 No.14974591 >>14974450 Astel thirsting who? suisex? ame? >>14974473 >>14974475 Well, I guess there's that, but I guess explaining that thirsting over your colleagues/potential collab partner is terrible will net you a 'unicorn fuck off' response either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:04:45 2021 No.14974598 >>14974417 I hope none of them do this shit to the Holo girls. Nothing worse than beggars and people trying to ship two people who have nothing to do with each other (I saw that one of them mentioned Ame).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:09:15 2021 No.14974726 >>14973820 >>14973928 it's funny this shit is coming from numberfaggots with zero selfawareness

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:09:18 2021 No.14974730 >>14974450 >Astel Astel said the fucking opposite, he pretty much told people >stop shipping me with Amelia https://youtu.be/6LGSu7jaooM?t=2038

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:10:30 2021 No.14974769 >>14974719 >>14974719 >>14974719 Migrate when ready

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:12:43 2021 No.14974842 >>14974726 however bad the numbers thread is it'll never be as bad as the nijiEN thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:14:21 2021 No.14974897 >>14974842 That reminds me, why is lazulight its own general now anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:14:59 2021 No.14974916 >>14974897 there is a spic always trying to split the nijien thread cause they made fun of him once

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:15:51 2021 No.14974939 It's kind of gone unnoticed, but Lamy seems to be having a pretty buff December. What happened, is she just super on-theme for christmas? Some kind of saviour buff after the HoloX debut drama?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:16:05 2021 No.14974946 >>14974897 They wanted to make individual generals for each of the nijiENs to counteract the "Hololive board" meme but as it turns out most of them can't actually survive on thier own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:17:06 2021 No.14974972 >>14974769 well the meidos just pruned a whole fuckton of threads so I guess we'll be staying here for awhile

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:17:20 2021 No.14974981 >>14974939 Talking out of my ass but maybe her gachis saw how concerned she was over Gen 6.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:17:33 2021 No.14974988 >>14974939 She was getting better numbers than Botan in a split pov collab recently.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:17:40 2021 No.14974993 >>14974375 Yeah, she did the same after her asmr stream, explaining that she was nervous about cause her parents usually watch her streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:18:22 2021 No.14975012 >>14974939 Probably because of gen 6, maybe her CEOs gachi are paying their employee to watch her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:19:06 2021 No.14975036 >>14974939 >Some kind of saviour buff after the HoloX debut drama? >drama this place really is visited by mentally handicapped

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:19:13 2021 No.14975042 >>14974308 No Unicorn would ever watch Vshojo though, so that really doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:19:32 2021 No.14975054 >>14974939 People want that Christmas GF experience anon. Lamy seems the best built for it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:19:52 2021 No.14975063 >>14974939 >Lamy >Unnoticed haha We've been talking about Lamy on a recurring fashion since November, especially after HoloX dropped. Her numbers have been a topic of discussion to the point that the usual suspects can't even say shit about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:20:30 2021 No.14975088 >>14974939 >It's kind of gone unnoticed, but Lamy seems to be having a pretty buff December. It didn't go unnoticed. See the punchline at >>14853381

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:21:14 2021 No.14975113
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>>14974939
Hmm, i guess so.
Her peaks are a bit higher than last month, but it's mostly that she has fewer low peaking streams. In fact, there are back to back high peaking streams now instead of the 1-3 streams a day split, with 1 around 5k viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:21:17 2021 No.14975116 >>14975088 >and it went unnoticed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:21:32 2021 No.14975127 >>14975042 That's not the point. No unicorn would watch VShojo EXACTLY because of that type of behaviour

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:21:36 2021 No.14975129 when does playboard update the daily sc?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:22:06 2021 No.14975149 >>14974946 You know it's bad when the Anya-Petra Global thread has a better lifespan than most of the other threads of chuubas with better overall numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:22:26 2021 No.14975159 >>14974993 Lui's mom is a fan of hololive and probably watches, just shows how big hololive is nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:22:34 2021 No.14975165 >>14974939 Uhh, her only streams being bigger than usual are her pokemon streams. The rest is about the same Lamy gets for Zatsu, ASMR, Zelda.. you probably just didn't payed attention to her numbers before

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:22:35 2021 No.14975167 >>14969992 >Nijisanji debut >Can't even medal Dead on arrival

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:22:41 2021 No.14975170 >>14975129 1AM New York time, if I'm not wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:23:03 2021 No.14975181 >>14975170 thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:23:09 2021 No.14975183 >>14975116 but that anon noticed it...2 days ago...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:23:38 2021 No.14975192 >>14975149 Why is that ? And why is that even a global ? Did it start off as a joke? I don’t see the overlap (besides not having good number ironically)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:23:44 2021 No.14975194 >>14975127 Nah, but mostly because that is nothing compared to what Vshojo say regularly. Even Mouse has said that she got an infection after some guy came in her eye once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:23:52 2021 No.14975200 vox guy is having his intro 2.0 now 4k, far less than his guerrilla yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:24:43 2021 No.14975222 >>14975149 Anya-Petra global is the funniest thread on this board

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:24:50 2021 No.14975225 >>14975192 It started off as a joke since their threads kept getting killed by bait threads. They initially hated it but got along in the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:24:58 2021 No.14975229 >>14975192 Both are more or less equal shit numbers and the exactly same color scheme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:25:33 2021 No.14975243 >>14975192 similiar numbers, both loli, and similiar color scheme think it started as a joke?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:25:49 2021 No.14975249 >>14975200 Think people need to temper their expectations with this guy . Nothing against him but NijiEN is hailing him as the 2nd coming of Christ for the branch

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:25:58 2021 No.14975254 >>14975200 That's still quite a lot more than NijiEN are getting, or even Edengumi outside of tournaments and big collabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:26:01 2021 No.14975257 >>14975192 It's basically a joke that stuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:27:02 2021 No.14975282 >>14975249 As they are wont to do because of the prevalence of small dog syndrome amongst them. >>14975254 You do realize the debut buff is a thing right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:27:31 2021 No.14975298 >>14975222 The memes and edits are much better than this board deserves.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:27:54 2021 No.14975314

>>14975222
Truthful trips, if nothing else.

>>14975225
>>14975229
>>14975243
>>14975257
The only thing that would make it funnier is if they eventually end up collabing regularly. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy that needs to happen because of how hilarious it would be if nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:28:13 2021 No.14975326 >>14975149 >Anya-Petra Global thread >>14975192 >Did it start off as a joke? It did. But it ended up becoming a refugee for the fans of either low level chuuba and it stuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:29:24 2021 No.14975356 >>14975282 Erythreasfwegas basically had 0 days debut buff and since we weren't expecting the boys to have Edengumi debut buff, double EN's highest member's average is a better debut buff than expected is what i'm thinking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:30:54 2021 No.14975399 >>14975183 It wasn't two days ago, anon. It's been a recurring joke for a while since Lamy's numbers have been higher than her normal numbers since late November, but no one was talking about it until December started.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:30:54 2021 No.14975400 >>14975356 Clearly selen roast is too powerful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:31:15 2021 No.14975415 3.3k votes in 1 minute in Vox's poll, 4,448 people watching.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:31:30 2021 No.14975423 It turns out Mysta was the actual top dog in numbers for these boys, truly the power of being gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:31:39 2021 No.14975428 >>14975200 Doing the guerilla basically undercut his 2.0. People watched that for the "extended debut" and a lot of them probably got their fill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:32:31 2021 No.14975453 >>14975356 numbers for me (me) >"debut buff" count:3

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:33:05 2021 No.14975477 >>14975428 I like what La Plus did which was just upload videos or shorts instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:33:43 2021 No.14975496 >>14975423 >Mysta he was the gay and the flip?! lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:34:15 2021 No.14975513 >>14975428 He did it at 1am

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:35:32 2021 No.14975542 >>14975399 i don't care much about numbers i am here because the anons here somehow manage to be some of the first to find interesting news about merch ,events and other things

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:36:38 2021 No.14975572 >>14975542 I just follow Twitter accounts and post the merch info here. For example, Pekora wine can be bought and shipped to the US now.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:37:05 2021 No.14975587
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If 1 month from now the NijiENboys still all have over 2k average, 3-4k peaks (completely doable)...
how bad will the Holostars feel for not being 'first' for that one?
and will they rush to get back that market?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:37:10 2021 No.14975590 >>14975428 This. I satisfied my curiosity with his guerrilla and he is having another stream in a couple of hours. He is gonna burn out everyone

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:37:41 2021 No.14975609 kek Korone numberfagging her followers on twitter https://twitter.com/inugamikorone/status/1472993423385034752

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:38:10 2021 No.14975620 >>14975572 see? i spend 30 minutes top on twitter reading and liking my oshis posts before moving on. thanks for your work anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:38:24 2021 No.14975627 >>14975587 I think they’re fine, they get sponsors and merch now. They have a 3D concert on the weekend as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:39:31 2021 No.14975680 >>14975542 pretty much this, I tried to set up a /vt/ news general awhile back but it never really got any traction, I'm really glad to see numbers basically taking on that role these days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:40:09 2021 No.14975701 File: 94 KB, 747x665, korone numberfag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14975609 It's an imageboard, post images and save everybody a click offsite

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:41:01 2021 No.14975731

>>14975513
When you do it doesn't matter. Once you do it, anyone that would otherwise be interested in watching irrespective of time will lose interest.

You have only one shot at nailing the following:
>debut stream
>first stream after debut
>first collab
>first of a given major milestone
>3D debut
Those basically set the tone for what to expect of your channel in the future, and people will be interested in those irrespective of their time zone.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:41:31 2021 No.14975752

>>14975542
>i don't care much about numbers i am here because the anons here somehow manage to be some of the first to find interesting news about merch ,events and other things
>>14975680
>pretty much this, I tried to set up a /vt/ news general awhile back but it never really got any traction
This thread may be nominally called "numbers thread" but it is actually pretty much the only thread in the whole catalog where you can discuss vtuber related stuff without being restricted by allegiance to a streamer or company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:42:29 2021 No.14975785 File: 265 KB, 1280x720, FHEc9U5UcAAMlZv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] there is a collab (potential gold) between Marine, Korone, Noel and Lamy in 2 days

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:42:47 2021 No.14975791 >>14975752 I don't know man, the nijiEN thread breaks out into talking about hololive way too often.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:45:28 2021 No.14975892 >>14975752 Really only a few hours of the day you can legitimately talk about both companies before the schizos start trying to bait people. >>14975791 Hololive lives rent free in that thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:47:32 2021 No.14975969 >>14975785 >Rowdy collab (stream for ea) the fuck is that? Also, hey, Home Alone watch along. I only saw that series 3 times this december.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:47:53 2021 No.14975976

>>14975791
The nijien thread is filled with converts from hololive and you know what they say, converts are the most zealous. They are pretty much constantly looking to prove that nijien is on par with or superior to hololive and that's why we get them nijischizos here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:48:35 2021 No.14976005 >>14975969 no idea what the tl mean by that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:49:19 2021 No.14976035 >>14975976 >constantly looking to prove that nijien is on par with or superior to hololive That's a big reason why the kaigai Niji fanbase almost died out in late 2020. You'd think people would learn from the past.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:49:33 2021 No.14976048 >>14975400 I keep seeing this, what did she say? It can’t be true she shat on them, makes no sense to me towards a company stand point

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:49:52 2021 No.14976063 File: 2.95 MB, 3636x2045, towa....jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I forgot this was tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVQQcI6r3NU

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:50:24 2021 No.14976081 Deepvoice Nijimale cant even hit 5k now? It's over nijibros...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:50:32 2021 No.14976088 File: 118 KB, 1000x563, holo_saves_lives.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14975542 Speaking of interesting news, Hololive really saved Bushiroad's ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:51:51 2021 No.14976140 >>14976088 translation please

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:52:21 2021 No.14976156 >>14976088 oh shit nice. some of my money is in that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:52:43 2021 No.14976166 File: 146 KB, 555x324, third_fes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14976088 (me) And they became the main sponsor for the third fes.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:52:59 2021 No.14976177

>>14976048
It’s not that surprising, it’s Selen’s style of humor.
Probably why they had only Selen and Oliver host this time so there were zero chances of another fuck up.
>>14976088
I remember seeing this a month ago or so. Makes sense why Bushiroad always tries to promote Hololive now (even their fucking wrestling side uses Subaru).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:53:10 2021 No.14976185 >>14975976 >They are pretty much constantly looking to prove that nijien is on par with or superior to hololive Bro I'm just chilling watching pomu and mori sometimes, what did i do

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:54:12 2021 No.14976219 File: 218 KB, 210x495, 1633833814126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For reference here's how wave three did in their follow up streams

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:55:02 2021 No.14976247 >>14976219 what a flop wave

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:56:18 2021 No.14976301 >>14976219 The soon to be forgotten wave… Hope Millie doesn’t tank her gachis by flirting with the guys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:56:18 2021 No.14976300 >>14976219 Reimu had the best post debut? What happened?

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:56:29 2021 No.14976309

kek, two things
1) Seems like not even Noel knew she would be in Lawson gummy merch
2) Her mother knew she was Noel but she herself didn't know her mother knew
3) Her mother likely knew about her roommate before she knew about Noel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6GNfMFTz4

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:56:42 2021 No.14976322 File: 109 KB, 701x372, 1636706794019.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14976088 >>14976177 KMR should really sit yagoo down over dinner and beg him to take on their vtuber company as another branch of hololive, jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:57:19 2021 No.14976336 >>14976309 Does her mom watch her roommates NND streams?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:57:29 2021 No.14976342 >>14976219 >>14976247 Right, this is the cunny wave with about 2-3 chuubas getting the gura killer curse. No wonder the males are doing well, they have 0 gura killer curse cast on them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:57:30 2021 No.14976343 >>14976309 Anon, that's three things

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:57:53 2021 No.14976358

>>14976219
so doing good so far(comparatively). one thing to consider is the novelty of NijiEN.
one of the reasons i think Myth did so great is being the first bigshots in the market thus getting all the pent-up interest and boosting their starting numbers over the moon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 19:58:33 2021 No.14976380 >>14976300 She did a whole bunch of watchalongs and superchat reading streams and that killed all interest in her, just like most of gen 3

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:00:22 2021 No.14976444 File: 859 KB, 3840x2160, 1639925646576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14976342 The Empress has no mercy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:01:00 2021 No.14976469 >>14976336 She surely implied her mom did know

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:01:30 2021 No.14976484 >>14976309 I will assume Noel's mom also has a Knight cup, imagine an oyakodon collab

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:01:39 2021 No.14976488 >>14976300 She told the spics to fuck off before kneeling back to them a couple of weeks later

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:01:48 2021 No.14976497 >>14976219 Looks like there will be a much bigger fanbase for the males. I'm still skeptical if they will watch day to day streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:01:53 2021 No.14976502 >>14976309 So her mother knows she does soft core streams on NND. Oof

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:02:04 2021 No.14976510 >>14975791 reading the nijithread over here is a bizarre experience, its literally all holo tourists pretty sure if you ever typed the word "gosling" on the nijithread in /jp/ your entire country wouldve been rangebanned for a year

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:03:16 2021 No.14976555 >>14976488 Lol would respect her more if she kept to it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:04:38 2021 No.14976608 >>14976510 /jp/ Niji thread as an exclusive clique protected by their personal meido I didn’t check yet but did Ethyria even end up getting their $150 special voice packs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:05:20 2021 No.14976628 >>14976219 >>14976247 >entire wave of cunny niji management is just retarded, the cunnybuff doesnt work if theres no contrast

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:05:36 2021 No.14976637 >>14976510 Yeah that’s why I literally only go to the nijijp thread on /vt/ or if I’m desperate /jp/ for info

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:05:44 2021 No.14976640 >>14976510 Goslings used to be told to fuck off before pomu devolved into gfe and the goslings became part of the thread culture

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:06:34 2021 No.14976662 >>14976309 Numbers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:07:20 2021 No.14976684 >>14976662 Fuck off?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:07:29 2021 No.14976691 >>14976608 Not yet, I guess they learned from the previous outrage not to tease it while the next debut is imminent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:07:44 2021 No.14976700 >>14976662 Noel gets like 15-20k people watching her members only on NND

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:08:04 2021 No.14976707 >>14976628 Millie and enna are not even cunny material. It's not even about their voices or contrast, the models don't have that loli vibe

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:08:21 2021 No.14976715 >>14976322 I always though the middle one was just an alt outfit for Sukoya Kana lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:10:38 2021 No.14976788 >>14976309 >Seems like not even Noel knew she would be in Lawson gummy merch so Cover is the one who decides which holos appear in every shill collab or the sponsor?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:11:00 2021 No.14976803 >>14976684 This isn't global, why do you faggots keep treating it like it is? It's really not that hard to not post off-topic shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:11:46 2021 No.14976826 >>14976803 go back

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:12:56 2021 No.14976867 >>14976803 /#/ has been a vtubers news central after coco killed serious numberfagging.

Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:15:50 2021 No.14976953

>>14976788
I assume it depends on the sponsor and on the manager of the girls.

In most entertainment jobs there is one assigned "agent" for the talent that can approve or reject partnership on behalf of the talent they represent and I assume that's the case for the establish Holo talent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:16:46 2021 No.14976990 >>14976662 >>14976803 go backseat mod somewhere else, getting news like this is literally the best part of numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:17:05 2021 No.14977003 >>14976788 The sponsor decides, but Cover always tries to negotiate bundles of top card Holos with under card ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 20 20:18:56 2021 No.14977081 >>14976803 Lol why not just wait for jannie applications like a normal faggot

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