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15451039 No.15451039 [Reply] [Original]

Any idea for saving holoen?

>> No.15451087

https://streamable.com/9wv6sn

>> No.15451176

>>15451039
More streams, more collabs and self clipping / stream highlights.
How about collab with ordinary YouTubers like good mythical morning or two set violin?

>> No.15451246

>>15451039
I'll give props to Mori she's really stepped her game up in the past few months. Surprised Kiara is so low considering her hours streamed

>> No.15451373

>>15451039
Hire people that are motivated and segregate them from Myth and Council.

>> No.15451424

>>15451039
>lui's stream time is almost the same as fbk, who has been autistically chasing a yellow fish

>> No.15451499

>>15451039
Have them collab with Twitch streamers like Sykkuno.

>> No.15451572

>>15451039
risu...

>> No.15451610

>>15451039
Aguafags explain

>> No.15451761

>>15451610
Antis mindbroke the poor onion

>> No.15451798

>>15451039
Keep in mind you have 5 Gen 6 entries with unnaturally high stats due to debuting in this month. So you actually have:

Mori +1 doing good
Gura neutral doing fine
Kronii +20 (actually streaming)
Mumei +4 streaming more
Kiara -4 w/e
Ina -6 I think she took a week off at the start of the month and could stand to play some more buff games like Minecraft
Ame + 9 coming back slightly from a weaker month before
Fauna +2 Basically flat
IRyS -16 barely streamed this month due to recording and illness
Bae -7 Took time off but also is still struggling finding an audience
Sana -6 Off half the month and is also Sana

Next month without the Gen 6 debuts will be more telling as to where they are.

>> No.15451872

>>15451039
gura-
25h stream time, 11 streams... 3rd highest average / hour 14 highest total hours watched

the reality is if gura regularly streamed she'd be at the top of that list. but 11 streams and just 2 hours per stream killed her in that period of time.

gura's been debuffing herself since the summer with irregular stream schedules, irregular cancelations, short streams, and long breaks. hilariously she's still the fastest growing holo among those who haven't debuted recently, growing at more then x2 the rate of pekora and calli.

I don't know if it's complacency, depression, or just lack of interest in being no.1, but if she were interested she could easily vastly out perform her current numbers, all shed need to do is regularly stream; the more regular the streaming schedule the higher the averages will get.

>> No.15451910

>>15451039
wtf is playborad?

>> No.15451933

>>15451872
Fubuki is actually the fastest growing Holo this month, being the first non-debut to do that since Gura's debut. Even Marine and Pekora during their growth spikes didn't pass Gura's rate. Fubuki only beat her by 10k and almost certainly won't be able to repeat that in Jan. but it's still impressive.

>> No.15451945

>>15451572
Risu ruined all her appeal and pretty much deserves the spot she is in.

>> No.15451954

>>15451910
Playboard, a website for youtube analytics.

>> No.15451962

>>15451933
And she did it with the laziest content possible. That is the worst part about it and what it means for the future of Hololive.

>> No.15451993
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15451993

>>15451039
Fuck EN let's make a plan to bring back and save the better group

>> No.15451997

>>15451039
More, and longer streams, seriously. You can just look at what happened to IRyS. Even though it's not her fault per se since it was due to her recordings for VSinger duty, the very month her streaming frequency dropped (December), her momentum stopped and her numbers dropped significantly. She was on an incline streak for 3 months straight; Now her median CCV dropped from 9.5-10k down to "only" around 7k and her watch hours dropped 21 ranks. On the other hand, Mumei and Kronii's medians have been getting back up again when they are streaming more frequently compared to last month.
People want more streams, and having more streams help streamers to reinforce their relationships with their fans and attract new viewers, plus making a habit of tuning in for their viewers. IRyS asides since she has VSinger duty to deal with, the rest of HoloEN, except Mori and Kiara who have been pulling their hours (too bad Kiara's numbers don't usually reflect that, though), should simply try to stream / upload shorts more frequently (i.e: look at HoloX, or FBK content release pacing last month)

>> No.15452003

>>15451499
Go back to /vsj+/

>> No.15452115

>>15451039
>people still think ccv is better than vod views
I really honestly do wish I could be this retarded. It must be bliss.

>> No.15452244

People left in this year will always be casual viewers.
Appealing to them is meaningless.

Honest opinion is to establish a company in US specific for HoloEN. Then they can get rid of ridiculous Japanese copyright restrictions so they can play more PVP games, more Minecraft maps/ mods, watchalong Youtube videos on stream like the Twitch streamers did, while still stay away from the Twitch normie crowd.

>> No.15452284

>>15452115
it is, shows how dedicated they are. People watching live with high retention rate are more likely to supa and buy merch than people who click on the vod a day later and watch 5 mins.

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15452328

>>15452115
Paints pretty much the same picture, though I guess it does draw a much clearer distinction to how much of a failure Council has been.

>> No.15452345

>>15452328
>Sana getting less views than Risu
Jeeeeesas

>> No.15452364

>>15451039
males

>> No.15452368

>>15451039
Omegatranny should let HoloEN collab with other western companies like VShojo and NijiEN.

>> No.15452379

>>15451246
Poor timeslot and her personality doesn't do her any favors.

>> No.15452417

Just shut it all down and beg China to allow them back.
EN was a mistake in the first place. Why Yagoo thought they were a good investment in the first place I will never understand, but I guess the dude just likes losing money

>> No.15452433

>>15451997
Yeah this right here honestly. Stream more and make it something people want to see even if it's just doing some FOTM in your usual stuff. Focusing only on one thing or only niche content provides a lot of difficulties for growing and sustaining channels.

>> No.15452459

What would the myths average be without the massive boost from their outfit reveals?
yikes

>> No.15452503

>>15452368
HoloEN has no issue whatsoever collabing with most of VShojo, and has done so before (will do so in the future, too, as confirmed by mouse and Mori), though.
NijiEN, on the other hand, should tell their member not to spread lies against Holo first if they want a collab, because HoloEN as a whole definitely doesn't need one

>> No.15452532

>>15452459
The outfit reveals only lasted an hour so it's pretty easy. You can subtract the max CCV column from their total. So Gura goes from 561,041 to 448,948 which only really drops her 1 spot, below Watame and above Botan

>> No.15452550

>>15451039
Look at Ayame... so inspirational

>4 streams
>Top 23 kekw

>> No.15452555

>>15452503
>Niji should stop spreading lies about Holo to get a collab
>it was proven that Omegatranny was yhe one that shut down Kiara and Pomu's collab
Rumao. Is this the legendary Holocope? Newsflash faggot, NijiEN doesn't need HoloEN - they even earn more than them consistently

>> No.15452665

>>15452328
what happened to the main channel? What did they get rid of yesterday to knock out almost a million views?

>> No.15452689

>>15452115
see >>15452328
whats the next cope council bros? SC? please not SC, have you seen Chloe SC? waaaaaiitt, no, it can't be SC right council bros?

>> No.15452725

>>15451962
Doesn't really mean anything, everything is cyclical. The whole company can't just play Pokemon and hunt for shinies and get big numbers across the board.

>> No.15452813

>>15451039
Aki...

>> No.15452836

>>15452345
Risu, Reine, Ollie, and even Mel all have passive viewing sources like MVs to get them views, something Sana lacks (and probably will always lack as she can't sing for shit...not that it's stopped Ollie...)

>> No.15452867

>>15452503
If you mean Nina they made her take down the VOD and no one has done that since, so obviously they did their best to mitigate that issue.

>> No.15452942

>>15452555
Nijiniggers, stop trying to twist my words. I was saying that
>NijiEN, on the other hand, should tell their member not to spread lies against Holo first if they want a collab
and not
>Niji should stop spreading lies about Holo to get a collab
I was talking about Nina's lie that Coco couldn't do an English only stream, even though Coco herself has said before that she could, she just didn't want to. Surprise surprise, shortly after that, the collab was cancelled. If I'm Omegatranny, I wouldn't want my member to collab with a group that let their member spreading bullshits either.
>Newsflash faggot, NijiEN doesn't need HoloEN - they even earn more than them consistently
Why are you lying, anon? Did you look at total SCs earning last month? Or the month before that? Heck, this month up to today, too? Did you look at amount of monthly members in chat? How are they earning more than HoloEN consistently? And NijiEN doesn't even have the "b-b-but muh merch sales (which isn't even accurately displayed most of the time)" excuse NijiJP has.
Like chuuba, like fans, I guess.

>> No.15453297

>>15452328
Omegatranny ruined Council when he told Kronii to stop playing Minecraft.
It stopped the storyline that held the new people

Also we all know Gura will success automatically if she tries.
The problem is she doesn't want to be under spotlight.
It might be the pressure she will face if she becomes too big.
It might also just be her being lazy.
She missed too many gold opportunity to expand and funnel the viewers into other Holos

>> No.15453427

>>15453297
AFAIK, there hasn't been any indication whatsoever that Omegatranny told Kronii to stop playing MC. We've only seen clockfags crying about her playing MC off-stream. Blame the right one, anon.
According to Sana, Omegatranny (well, the management) even told her that she should do whatever she want as long as she is happy, and they provided a lot of supports for her. Why do you think they'd have told Kronii (or anyone else) to stop playing a super buff game?

>> No.15453461

>>15451039
FubuGOD is the new queen, get fucked PekoTRASH and KEKsagi

>> No.15454717

>>15453427
https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1447878050494828550
>Oct 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_khEG6NomqU
>Oct 11

Kronii started the "black company" role in this stream with so many metaphor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN9HWZANj74
here's the clip of the stream
in 13:16 she discussed about "the branch" manager

Honestly I already smelt something when I heard it on stream but I am surprised that no one on 4chan figured it out yet.
It was the freest rrat but nobody picked it up

>> No.15454829

>>15453427
>>15454717
Not to mention that the Kronii MC stream was a guerrilla that seems to be planned together with Ina and Fauna.

Ina's one is a scheduled one.
Fauna's one is actually a superchat stream.

>> No.15454986

>>15454717
the fuck does Omega even do?

>> No.15455077

>>15454986
Convey uber-complicated plot for the streamers that need to be half dropped as vtuber always do. Then get angry about that and forbide people to play buff games.

>> No.15455176

>>15454717
If you listen to their weird conversation at 5:00 of the clip.
It feels like they are not talking to each other or chat.
It feels more like they are gossiping around the message sent by the management.

>> No.15455248

>>15455077
Minecraft is finally a debuff game and we should all kneel to Omega for this

>> No.15455310

>>15455248
this poster is why vtubers should never listen to vchanner viewers. the dumbest and most retarded shit is said confidently wrongly.

>> No.15455325

>>15454717
17:22
And there's Kronii's weird laugh from nowhere
"All of that is quite funny because you know, it's like, the CEO has fallen very far from grace. And I think that's quite funny"

>> No.15455360

>>15451373
This, fire Omega if he gets in the way pretending that there aren't a couple dozen suitable girls who would happily put in 70 hours a week for years straight.

>> No.15455444

>>15451246
Shit voice, shit personality, shit times, debuff games by playing long JRPGs.

However she's happy and doing well where she is and she's earning a lot. So there's really no incentive for Kiara to improve or change.

>> No.15455498

>>15451039
It's better for EN if their influence stagnants and wanes some, Council's mediocre performance and HoloX's tremendous success are A Good Thing. I'm EOP and even I know nothing good can come from having too much of a western influence in a jap company.

>> No.15455596

>>15451039
>Suisei, Aqua & Korone all streamed less than Ayame

>> No.15455653

>>15455444
kiara's model is really, probably the biggest reason why she's the lowest subs on her gen, just like sana.

>> No.15455719

>>15455653
vchanners need to know when the stfu with their retarded takes

>> No.15455864

>>15455596
>Suzy
Busy with her music career and still collabed with others
>Aqua
Hiding from chinks. Also busy with promotions
>Korone
Literally dying. Still appeared on 3D lives

>> No.15455963

When are the hologirls of en gonna take the vshojo pill?
>Better rigging
>Full ownership of the models
>You take 100% of your income without some shitty company taking most of it.
>Purityfags are nearly non-existent hence you do whatever the fuck you want without the fear of backlash from them and management.
>No game perms or collab permissions
>Can react to vids without the fear of getting hammered a ban by sovlless youtube bots.
>Growing rapidly from the normie and coomer market in the west which are arguably richer and more numerous than nip ones.

and most importantly:
>No omegatranny forcing you to stream if you don't feel like doing it.

Well?

>> No.15456058

>>15451993
Not gonna happen zhang

>> No.15456185

>>15455596
Suisei only streams for one hour, Aqua Is doing her idols reps and Korone was on a break

>> No.15456205

>>15451993
Chinese aren't allowed to play videogames.

>> No.15456267

>>15451039
I know this is a bait thread, but they're streaming too little to compete for top places.

>> No.15456703

>>15451872
Shes just giving everyone else a chance

>> No.15456826

>>15451039
I can't believe that cumbuds still delude themselves into thinking that Gura is the most popular vtuber just because of her dead subs

>> No.15456854

>>15451039
hire people that like games and streaming

>> No.15457411

In addition to obvious things like more streams and content variety. Stop with over the top debut lore and nepotism hire. Basically fire Omega.
As a fan of her artist roommate, I tried hard to like Sana but can't. She really isn't interesting enough as a streamer and does not put in the effort to become a better streamer either. It's too clear she doesn't take streaming as serious.

>> No.15458476

>>15457411
This. Omega is a waste of money and space for Hololive, they need to hire someone better or HoloEN might fade into irrelevancy.

>> No.15458820

>>15455444
She hasn’t even played any JRPGs for the past three months.
>shit personality
lol
She works hard, collabs frequently, releases music regularly, communicates openly and affectionately with her audience, streams constantly: all the things that people here claim would entitle a vtuber to their respect. Guess they should just stream three times a week and never engage with the job lest some anon dismisses them as shit personalities!

>> No.15458834

>>15454717
Even if Omega had any role in stopping minecraft, you don't know if they would have kept the same momentum by spamming it all the time till it gets old. Kronii decline is due to more than just this factor. There is the fact she also is lazy

>> No.15458880

>>15452665
They held a multiday live feed live stream of the Holotree with music playing and a light show. So I'm guessing the spike in viewership declined a lot since christmas passed already

>> No.15458967

>>15454986
I'm still waiting for the fag defence force to run in here and whine about how we don't like them because they used a special pronoun. It's never been about that, ya fucking retards. That's just icing on the cake.

>> No.15458977

>>15452328
>no Anya
>no Iofi
>no Azki
>no Choco
>no Aki
Real sneaky anon
>>15452345
Last 30 days would put us into November, which is the month of Risu because NUT

>> No.15459087

>>15455963
Probably never, because they aren't dumb. Even more so after VShojo's name was dragged through the mud by Nux. Not even Coco, their close friend, tried to stick with them against Nux, and you expect a bunch of people who, at best, are just acquaintances to leave their massively successful career to join them?

>> No.15459153

>>15455963
They enjoy hololive more than they consider vshojo worthwhile most likely. Plus some in vshojo are legit whores which not everyone wants to associate with

>> No.15459278

>>15451246
Who the fuck watches Kiara anymore?

>> No.15459280

>>15455719
It was pretty easy to predict both would end up the bottom of the pile just based on their design. A good design goes a very long way, a poor one becomes a barrier.

Sorry your oshi has a design that holds them back, but it's the truth. Most normal people decide if they want to give someone a chance at a glance, so that first impression of the design matters a lot.

>> No.15459318

>>15459280
Example is how cunny and petite models dominate

>> No.15459349

Give them 3D, 3D events, home 3D, outfit updates, promotion from the JP branch and all the bullshit all other 2views get in HoloJP to refloat their numbers.
Also get a good manager to get council to actually take this seriously.

>> No.15459367

More sex

>> No.15459381

>>15451039
They are lazy and they only stream once a week. Optimally they should be streaming Twice a Day just like Gen 6. They are becoming forgotten because they don't stream.

Gura should be streaming all of her Mario Kart training arc.

>> No.15459441

>>15459153
While I don't consider myself a Vshojo anti, the Nux drama was a case study in why HoloEN staying the fuck away from Western Eceleb cancer is a good thing and that fans are right to push back against it no matter how much that faggot Connor whines.

>> No.15459468

>>15459087
>muh N*x drama
The drama didn't even scratch VShojo's numbers nor did VILLS turn them away. Wake me up when something actually damages them. Oh and do me a favor and neck yourself n*xfaggot.

>massively succesful careers
Ah yes, I see that reclining numbers are an indication of success for you? Keep in mind that it's only a year since myth debuted and they are already tanking.

>> No.15459530

>>15459280
NTA, but then, why did IRyS, with her el goblina model, still manage to be the 3rd highest among HoloEN in term of median CCV and SC and 4th highest in term of Views until this month when she had to take a lot of break due to throat issue and VSinger duties? Surely you won't try to argue with what-if scenario that she could have been higher if she got a better model even though we will never know that?
First impression helps, no doubt about it, but it isn't that important in the long term

>> No.15459584

>>15459441
Western Ecelebs indeed thrive off the drama. Hololive creates their own bubble that lets them avoid a lot of drama or political nature content. I think that's why people tend to prefer Hololive over "real" world drama. I'll admit I don't know how far Vshojo delves into politics though.

>> No.15459655

>>15459530
The answer is she is actually entertaining despite the goblina avatar. If anything, her unique status from it allowed people to gain a niche on her too. You know how people like pugs despite being ugly? It's an ugly-cute aesthetic i guess

>> No.15459706

>>15459468
If it wasn't damaging, why was there barely any indie siding with them? Coco is their good friend, and even Coco decided to collab with Nux after the drama. Has Coco collabed with VShojo after that?
And HoloEN are still way ahead of VShojo's numbers. They are still at the top of VTuber world, and only other Holo members plus Niji's very top can match them. Tell me when either they start falling behind or VShojo get there, okay? Heck, Nux appeared on Times Square Billboard recently, when is VShojo going to?

>> No.15459774

>>15459153
>Enjoy hololive
Oh rearry? Last time I checked, Omegatranny still rules like an incompetent dictator in EN.

>> No.15459919

>>15459774
How much of their lives do you think is being controlled, retard? People tend to accept varying levels of management/control by others in life. This is a job after all. So they still enjoy being part of Hololive as it lets them express themselves in ways they otherwise would not have had opportunities for, despite some short comings. They reach a lot of people, do collabs, play games, sing, have fun.

>> No.15460094

>>15459584
>Hololive creates their own bubble
Yeah they avoid all that western mental illness shit, you can thank the fans hard gatekeeping Hololive even on Facebook, Twitter and Reddit.

>> No.15460653

>>15459706
Anon for the love of God stop blowing the N*x drama out of proportions, there's no need to take sides as it's a small thing that got fixed in private although fuck N*x for milking it in the podcast with Charlie.

>Coco decided to collab with N*x after the drama.
Kek didn't she say she didn't know anything about the drama, do your reps nigger.

>HoloEN is still ahead of VShojo in numbers
Maybe today but look at Gura's numbers, it's getting dangerously close to nyan, mouse and vei's. The latter 3 reached 14-15K while the former reached 16K. A thin line that can be surpassed after the collab with miz and twitch coomers.

>Heck, N*x appeared on Times Square Billboard recently, when is VShojo going to?
Irrelevant, you do realize niggers and POCs that reside in New York don't give a shit about VTubers right? Also when is N*x gonna create his own content and not have people look at porn?

>> No.15461576

>>15459919
I, too enjoy pandering to literal babies and purityfags that stone you for having males near you. Ya know constantly in fear that your viewers will leave once you don't stream or suspect you have a boyfriend like what's happening with Begora. Anyways, EN wouldn't be reclining if that tranny was actually competent at his job. Besides if they're having "fun" like you said, those stream numbers at OP's pic aren't quite telling

>> No.15461644

>>15461576
They know what they sell. Honestly, collabs with males would be fine infrequently. It's when you start doing some number of one-on-one collabs with the same male or mentioning one frequently on your channel that I'd start caring.

>> No.15461915

>>15451039
Fire Gura, Kronni, Sana, Mumei and Ina. Then it's fixed

>> No.15462120

>>15461644
Female only chuuba collabs are getting old desu. I really want to see holoEN girls to try something new like collabing with other guys but unfortunately we know that fans and omega won't like that.

>> No.15462160

>>15451039
They should go the Belle Delphine route.

>> No.15463930

>>15453461
>new queen
She's always been the queen. She's no NEW queen, she's ALWAYS been THE QUEEN.

>> No.15464130

Save them from what exactly. Cut holoX debut rush out and the chart looks about whats expected. With outlier of fubuki and the 3 usual kings of stream hours shuba peko and miko.

>> No.15464296

>>15451872
Gura has always been like this. Without a heavy hand of management she'd stream even less. She'd poof come back a month later, the off again without a word. She's talked before about not wanting a schedule every week. If she ever gets her way on that she's taking Ayame level gaps in streams.

>> No.15465698

>>15451039
Maybe if you should kill yourself and erase your existence and every bait EN schizos from this thread would do everyone on vt/ a favor

>> No.15466011

>>15451039
I dont know what they can exactly do but here my are my suggestion for myth members.
Mori:I honestly dont know she's just a straight up upgrade from last year, she stream more she is a better streamer too and is doing a lot of endurance stream she even released short animated and voice acted video too.In short keep it up you'll be rewarded hopefully.
Kiara:I like her I really do but I dont think we can save her she just unpopular within HoloEn,But she could maybe try to play some buff game like an fps for exemple and it seem her long streaming time intimidate people from watching the vods well from what i have seem from YouTube rando comment so maybe cut it a little bit sometime.
Ina: I dont watch her that much but a quick look at her channel indicate that she didnt stream much this month so she could try to stream more the next month or something.
Ame:I was convinced that she didnt stream much this month but she has like 20 stream this december so that aint it.
So my only explaination are her game choice and the fact the she doesnt release schedule anymore,If i was not a member I would have missed a lot of her stream this month.Oh and I also noticed that she didnt stream in her usual 18h-20h spot but at 22h and later for like 6 or 7 stream, there is a lot less people willing to stay up at these hours.
Gura:Just like Ina she need to stream more its simple math

>> No.15466128

>>15458820
Leech

>> No.15466765

>>15466128
Fag

>> No.15467176

This is your brain on numberfagging. Did you fags forget the point of vtubing? After the 1 month collab ban and required streams, they can do whatever they want. They invest as much or as little time as they want on it. If they want to be a money whore to fund music projects, they pull a Mori. If the have a side job or college thing going alongside it, they do a Mumei and split their attention between the two. That's kind of the point and freedom of vtubing. You sound like actressess complaining about not being paid the same amount as their male counterpart because they didn't negotiated their contract right. Acting and vtubing aren't going going to pay the same across like a regular job with set hours. They are free to invest as much time as they want, however they want. Have you even considered that people do stuff outside of vtubing that could be "more important" than streaming to fans? That they could have a life outside of streaming that they want to enjoy and not make streaming their whole life. I guess people who don't have lives themselves can't fathom that they don't want to make their job their entire lifes work.

>> No.15467273

>>15459280
>a poor one becomes a barrier
Pekora

>> No.15467571

>>15458834
She's also a bully and gura wants to be a bully too. Bullies like bullies but I guess some people are tired of being looked down upon.

>> No.15467707

>>15458820
None of those things have anything to do with her personality. It just means she has work ethic. You can be an overbearing schizo with a good work ethic retardchama.

>> No.15469994

>>15467707
No. Conscientiousness is literally a component of personality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientiousness

>> No.15470110

>>15469994
Fine let me put it in simpler terms, since you want to be pedantic. It doesn't make her any less obnoxious or any more entertaining.

>> No.15470172

>>15467176
>Wasted your time typing all of that in a bait thread
Come on anon.

>> No.15470260

>>15451997
I think you're wrong about the momentum thing. The reason IRyS' average viewers dropped so much between November and December is pretty much only because of the type of content she did. November had a lot of Minecraft streams (including the Sportsfes POV), FFXIV and Karaokes while she barely did any of her popular content in December. Mori has been doing only buffed streams lately: Shiny hunting, Themed karaokes, Jump King and that's why her numbers are up.

>> No.15470416

>>15451039
Such pathetic hours streamed. Fubuki is the only one inclining and she's also the only one with 100+ streamed hours, which I believe is the normal required hours for a streaming contract.
Literally just stream and make content instead of jerking it in meetings discussing merch and playing final fantasy off stream all day.

>> No.15470485

>>15451945
What did she even do? All I hear is that treerat is pretty good at singing.

>> No.15470594

>>15470485
It's what she won't do. She absolutely refuses to do Karaoke streams.

>> No.15470600

Why are people getting so bent out of shape about numbers during December of all months?

>> No.15470638

>>15470110
Your personal opinion is irrelevant to this discussion. You can't disdain some vtubers for wasting an opportunity and being lazy from one side of your mouth and then condemn someone else for working hard from the other side simply because you personally dislike them. Kiara meets the exact standards of diligence and passion for the job that you people claim to care about, which should be enough for anyone who is interested in the wellbeing of HoloEN as a whole regardless of your opinion of their individual streaming styles. There is nothing she can do to 'improve' when you're engaging in bad faith.

>> No.15470668

>>15470594
Did she ever say why?

>> No.15470675

If the plan for Omega was to be the face for everyone to shit on instead of talents they did a pretty decent job.

>> No.15470710

The only way to save them is if cover stops being kikes about licensing. Forcing them to do stupid niche nip shit like blue archive streams doesn't help either.

>> No.15470721

>>15470638
I never said she was lazy retard. I merely said it doesn't fucking matter how hard she works. But keeping making shit up.

>> No.15470761

>>15470668
I don't watch her but it is my understanding that she dances around the reason why and won't give a straight answer.

>> No.15470762

>>15470721
I said the exact opposite of that. Reread:
>You can't disdain some vtubers for wasting an opportunity and being lazy from one side of your mouth and then condemn someone else for working hard from the other side simply because you personally dislike them

>> No.15470770

>>15470710
Blue archive was one of gura's better shill streams. She improved a lot since princess connect.

>> No.15470811

>>15451039
>Mori going down four spots
What happened deadbraps?

>> No.15470828

>>15470762
Okay ESL I'll say it again: I. Never. Said. Anything. About. Anyone. Being. Lazy. I said Kiara is an insufferable bitch and that's why nobody watches her regardless of how hard she works.

>> No.15470942

>>15470828
So you admit you're not interested in this discussion and just want to push your vendetta against Kiara.

>> No.15470982

>>15470942
Not him but I'm also not a fan of Kiara. Sparks was a fine song tho

>> No.15471038

Stop replying to bait

>> No.15471081

>>15470942
>Criticize her shitty personality
>But she works hard you're just an anti
Like fucking clockwork, you KFP fucks are all the same

>> No.15471133

>hurrr kronii uhhh reclining
Get with the times thread readers. Kronii has been inclining as of lately.

>> No.15471166

>>15470770
You see I and most others wouldnt know that because we don't play nip mobile games. Maybe if it was like CSGO skins or some shit but most of the western audience doesn't give a fuck about gacha unless you can make money off it.

>> No.15471225

>>15471081
Yes, you are an anti if you feel the need to bring up how much you dislike a vtuber in an irrelevant context. It's bad faith.

>> No.15471295

>>15471225
"kiara bad" reply

>> No.15471411

>>15471225
>Professional entertainer
>Personality is irrelevant
You literally cannot be this retarded

>> No.15471497

>>15471411
Your personal opinion of her is irrelevant to the question of whether she is doing her bit for HoloEN, yes.

>> No.15472755

>>15471497
Not him, but you're retarded. Reply chain started with:
>Surprised Kiara is so low considering her hours streamed
A perfectly natural response to that is "Doesn't matter how much she works if she's an unfunny obnoxious retard". And it's the truth, too.

>> No.15473402

>>15470416
>which I believe is the normal required hours for a streaming contract.
You believe wrong. The contract is 3 times a week. Even if they did 8 hours for each of those 3 weekly streams, they would still be shy of 100 hours by the end of most months.

>> No.15473733

>>15473402
Sorry for the confusion, I meant the contracts streaming platforms hand out requiring 100+ hours per month.

>> No.15474195

damn, splitniggers got it rough when they can't even post this shit in /hlgg/

>> No.15476842

>>15451039
I will never understand how buki beats a comedian just by being mundanely cute. Even a man, I find watching her to be like eating unbuttered untoasted white bread without anything on it.

Wait, no, that's actually not as bad as what I'm trying to describe. She's more like those incredibly dry and bland oyster crackers that you throw out because they taste like cardboard and are borderline inedible unless you're literally starving.

>> No.15477125

>>15472755
Nope, your personal dislike is still not a reasonable response nor an unbiased truth unless you're genuinely psychotic.

>> No.15481881

>>15451039
ez
don't stream shitty Pokemon games

>> No.15484706

>>15451039
Any idea for saving HoloJP?

Will creators still be paid with YouTube Premium?
Yes. In fact, YouTube Premium gives a secondary revenue stream for creators in addition to what you're already earning today through ads.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6306276?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwill-creators-still-be-paid-with-youtube-premium

The US made up 67% of YouTube Premium subscribers worldwide in 2020, as Alphabet reported and our forecast reflects. This share is down slightly this year because of international expansion of the subscription service. Overall, the US makes up 48% of YouTube’s global net ad revenue.

https://www.emarketer.com/content/youtube-premium-will-accrue-us-subscribers-by-year-end-2021

What’s the difference between CPM and playback-based CPM?
Videos on YouTube can have more than one ad. CPM focuses on the advertiser cost for ad impressions. Playback-based CPM focuses on the advertiser cost for video playbacks that include one or more ads. Your playback-based CPM is often higher than your CPM.
For example, say your video is viewed 5,000 times. 1,000 views included one ad and 500 other views included two ads, for a total of 1,500 views with ads. This instance means there were 2,000 individual ad impressions, but only 1,500 monetized playbacks.

Let’s say the advertiser paid $7 total. The video’s cost per impression would equal the $7 advertiser cost divided by the 2,000 ad impressions, or, $0.0035. The CPM, or cost per 1000 impressions, would then equal $0.0035 times 1,000, or, $3.50. The playback-based CPM would equal $7 divided by the 1,500 monetized playbacks, times 1,000, or $4.67.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9314357?hl=en&ref_topic=9314352
also the memberships cost only 3.47 USD, fucking rumao. if Yagoo smart he will start hiring more EN chubas soon :)


>>15471038
it's ok, you just need to bait harder

>> No.15486398

>>15464296
ayame is in fucking highschool.

there is an excuse for her.

>> No.15486508

>>15484706
so what this means is US views are worth a hell of a lot more $$ per viewer then any other type of view.

>> No.15486795

>>15484706
If Youtube Premium is $3.47 a month it can't give any more than that to whoever you're watching.

>> No.15487288

>>15486795
i was talking about channel memberships (400 jpy)

>> No.15490358

Sometimes I wonder why HoloEN still uses YouTube as their streaming platform when they banned Ludwig, someone they signed millions of dollars for to stream exclusively on Twitch just for showing a second of Baby Shark kek.

>> No.15495061

>>15490358 (me)
Youtube* fuck I just recently noticed

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