Hololive Conspiracy

[Anonymous No.]

Are the girls coerced to all do the same shit? I noticed that when one girl plays a game, suddenly all of them play it. Now every girl does duolingo.
Does Hololive make contracts that a certain number of their streamers have to promote certain games or software?

I love Gura so much but I find lots of the stuff she does on stream kinda meh especially when it's already done a million times by the other girls.

Hololive really needs to get their shit together. They have the best talents but do not use them wisely. If Gura played PS3 games, she would easily be at 3million subs by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555746
>PS3
I meant PS4. My bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive got copyright striked by capcom for streaming a game they didn't "have permission" for, so now any game that holo wants to play has to go through an arduous process of cover obtaining official permission.

As a result most holos are starved for game variety so when one gets approved they all play it.

Yes it's retarded.
And yes, it even goes for apps like fucking duolingo too

[Anonymous No.]

>>1556341
Kiara even explicitly retold and confirmed this whole story on one of her last streams, I think it was Ryza 2.

[Anonymous No.]

They should start doing more skits and shorts. More original content instead of "gonna play this random game for a few hours"

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>>1555746
they are doing this because they've realized you're not doing your reps by yourself, anon

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>>1556341
Why is it they don't fight the copyright strike? They are baseless and have been repealed before after having been fought by independent creators, and Cover should have a leg up being an actual corporation.

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>>1555746
>I noticed that when one girl plays a game, suddenly all of them play it. Now every girl does duolingo.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of them just don't have the time to play games, so when one plays something "new", everyone plays it.
Notice how they watch each-other streams? Throw a sidejob and Netflix/Anime to that and you basically have no time to find/play new games. Only way for you to know about them is one someone you follow plays it.

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>>1556341
Some publishers (like devolver digital) give blanket permissions on all titles. So at the very least they should then have a catalog to choose from instead of playing the exact same ones.

[Anonymous No.]

It was much more diverse before it got popular. Success usually makes content creators stop being unique

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>>1557063

Because Cover has to fight to keep *all* the Holos around so they rather play it safe and not get a reputation of antagonizing game companies.

And no, a developer saying that he's cool with it on Twitter is not enough.

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>>1557063
How many independent creators have actually won in a court of law vs just eating the strike because they couldn't afford a legal battle? IP law is very draconian so I don't blame people for not wanting to get tangled in that mess.

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>>1557063
Japan is retarded and doesnt have fair use
they would lose

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>>1557436
I get that they probably don't want to be the forerunner in this regard but this mindset of not wanting to antagonize companies is exactly why this shit has gone on for so long.
>>1557514
I didn't say fight in court, but rather have the strike repealed through YouTube, which many have and is largely evident by the Capcom gameplay still up and going.
>>1557549
This is probably the only thing I can think of but I would have assumed they operated under American law due to YouTube being an American company.

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>>1557428
> before it got popular
Before they lost over 60% of all their archived streams because of copyright strikes.

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>>1556928
This. Furthermore, aren't there thousands of games that are so old that thy are public domain?

Two Holos could get together and just play some classic board game.

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>>1557577
>I would have assumed they operated under American law due to YouTube being an American company.

Cover is japanese

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>>1557601
Watch Korone then. While others played the latest Mario Kart, Mario, or Dragon Quest, she played the old ones.

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>>1555746
take your meds, or stop being a fucking retard, whichever comes first

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>>1557601
>of games that are so old that they are public domain?
Not if Nintendo's legal department has anything to say about it

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>>1556928

Check out Holo no Graffiti on official channel. Funny enough, it is rated 8.6 on MAL and caused a lot of seething.

Marine occasionally put out short skits like this one. https://youtu.be/snxG0-Paplw

With Hololive Alternative, there is likely to be manga or other forms of media coming up. Though, the incident with Mizuryu Kei might cause a delay since his Marine manga was supposed to come out first.

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>>1556928
Agreed. I actually enjoyed Towa's Herbarium streams. A welcome diversion from all the apex bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok one last thing: Instead of each company having to get permission on their own, how about multiple streamer companies get together in requesting permissions FOR ALL so there is a bigger pool for all of them?

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>>1557384
That doesn't count for cover purposes, after what happened to muse dash if they don't get official permissions from the publishers themselves cover treats them as non existent because legally speaking those blanket permissions mean Jack shit.

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>>1557601
>Furthermore, aren't there thousands of games that are so old that thy are public domain?

Copyright law is the life of the author plus seventy fucking years. Literally no video game is in public domain and won't be for atleast another 25 years, at which point holos will be able to start enjoying some atari classics created by developers who croaked right after.

Also, not even monopoly is in the public domain. Best you can do is hope holos whip out a chess board.

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>>1557577
>I didn't say fight in court, but rather have the strike repealed through YouTube, which many have and is largely evident by the Capcom gameplay still up and going.
I mean, they achieve the same end by just getting permissions beforehand. But I have seen some game and singing streams being hit by the strike and then restored later so I'm assuming they're either using the YouTube system or just contacting the copyright holders directly to resolve those.

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>>1557816
>it is rated 8.6 on MAL and caused a lot of seething.
When isn't MAL users seething?

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>>1557986
Just think: If a company gave a public blanket permission but then decided to sue anyway, it would lose face publicly and get shit on by the gamer community. This, in turn, would tank their stocks which means heads will roll because their investors are out for blood.
Why would ANY fucking company risk this shitstorm just to prevent some random ass youtubers from streaming their games after they themselves gave permission?
There is absolutely nothing to fear, so why not just """risk""" it without an official permission.

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>>1555746
gura is an ironic weeb redditor casual who mainly play western aaa garbage and soi indies. her gaming taste is that of reddit. which is trash.

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>>1558746
It's copyright strikes that matter, not getting sued. And video games companies have copyright striked stuff on YT before. After 3 strikes, the whole account is terminated and you're literally banned from YT.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hololive has to jump through hoops, getting written permission for literally everything
>meanwhile on Nijisanji...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb7JSu_U8r4
The whole 'they have to do it because japanese corporation' thing rings a bit hollow when only one japanese corporation has to do it.

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>>1559283
anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kE7LiAR6E

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>>1555746
Copyrights are one thing, but I also think they just ride on the same wave of hype. It's like when one guy from your close group of friends starts playing a game and others, seeing how fun it is, follow him soon after. You also have something to talk about and don't have to worry about spoilers when you all meet together.

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>>1559079
Seems like YT just has a shit system then. How about packing up and going to another site with a less shit system?
I don't give a shit if I watch on YT or Twitch or wherever and there's always another way to give money to the streamers. If it's not a superchat, then bits or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

Copyright law is dystopian as hell.

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>>1559539
You can get your channel suspended by the company on twitch anyways. Wester got suspended twice by the Pokemon company for streaming the new games on Australia release time.

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>>1559383
They also will have Pokémon Tournament on 30-31 March on Nico Nico.

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>>1557986
Devolver Digital IS the publisher

[Anonymous No.]

I'm usually happy to shit on C*ver but the simpler explanation is that they just copy each other because they notice successful trends.
If they were coerced to do the same shit we'd have gotten EN King covers and Undertale arcs.

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>>1555746
When is a an EN going to play Undertale?

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>>1559383
>>1559621
The problem isn't the fact they're playing pokemon, the problem is that they're playing a DS game that wasn't released on the Wii U, which means they're either emulating (illegal) or using a DS capture card (also illegal).

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>>1559539
>Seems like YT just has a shit system then
You have reached the core component of any problem on YouTube. Their system is garbage and they don't have much in the way of competition, since their wide ranging audience is one of their biggest selling points.
As for why not move to twitch? Twitch is not nearly as big in Japan as it is in the rest of the world.

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>>1559539
It may be a shit system, but YouTube's Content ID is also the best system available given current IP laws. Other sites also implement similar systems to Content ID.

If you don't like it, get lawmakers to abolish IP laws. Until then, we're stick with these half measures.

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>>1559605
We were just talking about companies that would not do that because it would ruin their reputation after they gave public permission.
The response to that was that it's YT's shitty system that's the problem.

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>>1559835
> get lawmakers to abolish IP laws
> Congress gets lobbied by disney for millions of dollars so they can suck the soul out of everything....

[Anonymous No.]

Chumbud newfag doesn't understand permissions, more at 10

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>>1559755
i don't think they really care about emulations, a bunch of girls have emulated games or used capture cards already, it's just more autistic shit with permissions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHSFQQL8gLw&t=2216s

[Anonymous No.]

>>1555746
>watches entertainent from a large company
>surprised that it is often reliant on finding what already works, instead of doing something different

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>>1558862
I hope Gura sees this if only to see whether she gets mad and/or tries to disprove it on strem.

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>>1557063
The system for unstriking videos on YT is not only draconian, but obtuse. It is a result of draconian copyright law and not only YT's fault that their system has to be so retarded, though it is still their retaded system. As a result, it almost always takes less effort and time to get explicit permission than to fight against invalid claims, and even with explicit permission some companies will just tell you to file a high-risk appeal when their bots get you. This article features a few examples, the one about the music law presentation getting copystriked is rather impressive levels of retarded.
https://www.eff.org/wp/unfiltered-how-youtubes-content-id-discourages-fair-use-and-dictates-what-we-see-online

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>>1557582
Yeah and why do you think that even happened in the first place? Capcom copystriked an almost year old mio playthough when they did that. It's because they got the public eyes attention

[Anonymous No.]

Japs are vindictive little Elevens in business

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>>1557384
Cover is retarded. Basically every single Western developer and/or publisher of note already operate under the idea that people should be able to stream or otherwise make media content with their games when the game is officially released. But Cover is super paranoid about this stuff after the Holocaust.

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>>1559835
>abolish IP laws
Excellent. Some company can spend billions of dollars in R&D and then someone else can just steal its tech with no repercussion.
Anyway, this copyright stuff is largely not an issue with Western games and developers.

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>>1561597
She doesn't really try to hide it. The only anime she can name is Konosuba and the only games she plays that are remotely 'weeb' are rhythm games. Now ask her about western cartoons or FOTM survival shit and shes in her zone.

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>>1555746
>If Gura played PS3 games
Name one good game on that thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>1564144
First resistance was great.

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>>1564144
Just one? Ok, Nier. The first one.

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>>1557063
Because it's whack-a-mole. Okay, so you fight the copyright strike against one, but what about the next one, and the next? Or the same strike against different channels?
Copyright systems are fucked up in the western world in where you have to follow the copyright systems of every nation and also every person who uses any specific work. So one member fighting and winning their copyright strike doesn't mean the same strike couldn't be applied to another member, or the next, or the next. Regardless of where they live or what company they belong to. This is why copyright bots that grab plague youtube stealing content that isn't even theirs: The system is set up in such a way that the onus of proof is on the accused.

So instead of dealing with that shit they rather just get written permission to deal with each game.

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>>1557601
>This. Furthermore, aren't there thousands of games that are so old that thy are public domain?
No such thing. in America (and Yes, Japan has to follow American copyright law where applicable) that is life of the creator + 80 years. Even the oldest video games ever made aren't public domain yet. Even Pong is still someone's IP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1558746
>the gamer community
No one cares about the gamer community. The gamer community is a laughing stock that is shit on by their own journalists, peers, and developers that are supposed to protect and represent them. What are they going to do? Not buy a game? Literally Homer shouting "You just lost yourself a customer".
Gamers ars viewed as worse subhumans than vermin and most of the developers that make games for gamers would love nothing more than to watch their own customers struggle and die, and vocalize as much on their own social media platforms. Considering gamers still give these people money, maybe they're right.

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>>1564144
inFamous.
Prototype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1562091
My rrat is niji got an exclusivity agreement with capcom, they were pretty direct about the strikes exclusively targeting hololive

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>>1559539
>and going to another site with a less shit system?
Ah yes, they should move everything to the next most successful video site, Dailymotion.
Dailymotion, the booming home of all the most successful rising stars of the internet. Absolutely.

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>>1555746
>If Gura played PS3 games
But she's playing all of them right now.

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>>1556341
Even with the permissions thing, it doesnt really make sense to me. After they get permission for a game, other girls should be able to play that particular game. We've seen that with some games bu there is a huge list of games right now that only one of the girls has played. Just look at how many games Amelia has played that no one else has. Same thing with Pekora (Shadow of the colossus, Dragon Quest Builders), Gura (Red Dead 2) Or Miko (Uncharted). They have plenty of games to choose from. Its just that either
>The girls don't have an interest in playing diverse stuff. Most of them aren't hardcore gamers.
>Cover wants to push certain games, regardless of saturation. Their thinking is "Undertale is popular. Lets have all the girls play Undertale to gain new attention."

[Anonymous No.]

>>1565125
Korone is the only one that plays old school games, wish the other members did too, it would add more variety for their streams.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1371601005754875907

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>>1565330
Holos are not supposed to be gamer streamers.
I think they lost sight of that.

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>>1555746
>I noticed that when one girl plays a game, suddenly all of them play it.

I have a rrat about this very fact:
The girls are all actually copying each other to try and one up and steal viewers whenever what looks like a new FOTM shows up.

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>>1565330
I didnt bring up Korone because, even though she does play alot of games that the other girls could play if they wanted. The thing is, most of these girls are not hardcore enough to play retro games like Korone does. Even Ame, who is usually pretty competent at games has been getting absolutely facefucked by Donkey Country.

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>>1565421
Fear the bird

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>>1565552
>ame
>usually pretty competent at games
only by HoloEN standards

[Anonymous No.]

>come into the thread to shit on apex apex apex apex apex apex apex apex
>actually learn about US and Japanese copyright and contracts laws
the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

You can't be creative anon, management might not like it, better do what everyone else is doing and be safe. Reminder that after asacoco returned with 2.0 it was all filtered through management and got boring fast, and more recently we had the Haato situation.

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>>1556928
They did that before they blew up.

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>>1560347
They do care, Mio was striked by Capcom because she had used a DS capture card to play Ghost Trick and was the reason for the holocaust.

[Anonymous No.]

OK Gura knows some words

[Anonymous No.]

can't they just turn off monetization and not deal with permissions?

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>>1555746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3phaXN_FjiE

[Anonymous No.]

Noel is literally better at english than Gura is at japanese...

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>>1566755
Kinda not surprised. Noel took some classes, if I remember correctly

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>>1557991
>Copyright law is the life of the author plus seventy fucking years.
>>1564459
>life of the creator + 80 years.

reminders that you all need to stop fucking supporting disney since they're the biggest mouth and wallet on "make it so we can profit forever off things made and sold once" lobby with that faggotry.

>>1559945
you mean what's already going on?
>>1562362
>Some company can spend billions of dollars in R&D and then someone else can just steal its tech with no repercussion.
which is why you don't just purge the corrupt laws, you replace them with something less corrupt, fool.
>Anyway, this copyright stuff is largely not an issue with Western games and developers.
the funny part about that is that the US in particular maintains a legal precept that if you become aware of IP infringement you are obligated to go all rabid dog in the legal sense over it, because if you do not defend your IP in any particular case you are legally viewed as not caring and thus are forbidden to defend that particular IP ever again. this gets into the problem that these laws pay lip service to the concept of fair use but don't actually permit it to exist any more than other countries' laws. if a company isn't explicitly okaying things they're on the hook to ruin your life.

>>1565687
>the haato situation
you mean where your favorite /b/tard got told she couldn't continue a series that was actively breaking youtube's updated rules RE: suicide/mental illness related content, and went off to pout for a while? it's not a "situation", it's you and your ilk needing to grow up and move the fuck on and support whatever she does when she's done pouting.

[Anonymous No.]

>We now have people so new, they don't even know what the Holo-caust was
I've lived too long...

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>>1566755
Gura probably only passed high school because of no child left behind policies

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>>1555746
Algorithm milking.
Think of it as a way to both promote each other and hoard the search results of a single tag, hiding everyone else.

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>>1566755
>japanese school curriculum: required EN courses
>US school curriculum: No JP required

I wonder why....

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>>1566626
the archive can be claimed by the copyright owners, and I don't think they want to outright give said owners free money like that

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>>1567310
School language courses are universally shit, regardless of the country.
One has to do private lessons/hobby learning to get anywhere near fluency.

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>>1564584
>No one cares about the gamer community.
disney did, and frankly i give a shit because it's free money to appease them.

is it the end of the world if GAMERS are pissed off? no, no it's not, they'll buy the fucking lootboxes and fifas. but is it extra free money if a corporation can do costless good pr? yes. will i be pissed off if i'm losing free money due to incompetent management? you bet.

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>>1567815
oh also this is why i invested in microsoft. their excellent pr and service is a huge asset appropriately highly valued by investors.
it's costless to not be assholes when it comes to shit like open source or copyright. investors don't like stupid management any more than the consumers.

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>>1564299
Do you want gura to cry?

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>>1555746
I'm sure there's money involved. It's not hard to picture their internal list of allowed content having some kind of promoted or encouraged titles.

Hopefully they get a bigger cut or something like that.

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>>1567807
You get as much as you put into it. I have a friend that is practically fluent in spanish after learning it in class.

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>>1557601
How long have you been watching? They do that sometimes, i.e. Kiara and Ame have played virtual chess

[Anonymous No.]

She was doing her preps I see

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>>1557063
>Why is it they don't fight the copyright strike?
It's in Capcom's every right to strike someone streaming their IP who did not get a license from them to do so.
>>1557549
Streaming someone else's video game is not fair use, even in America.
>>1557577
>would have assumed they operated under American law due to YouTube being an American company.
That's not how it works. American works fall under American copyright law and Japanese works fall under Japanese copyright law.

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>>1566939
Nice try anti, it was already debunked, stop spouting this "rule" when Haato is just a character.

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>>1564144
Trick question. PS3 has no games.

[Anonymous No.]

>do repetitions
These are hardly reps.

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>>1555746
considering how xbox replied to her tweet as soon as she debuted, i think the ps4 thing speaks for itself

[Anonymous No.]

It’s because they are trying to become the Disney of Vtubers. Look at what happened to Haachama for doing something different and not family friendly they literally shut down her ideas.

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>>1570110
>Streaming someone else's video game is not fair use, even in America.
it absolutely is, precedence is the cornerstone of us law, and such a decision to ban someone from viewing a product that someone had bought would have far reaching consequences for the first amendment.

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>>1570861
>precedent
>"us law"
>first amendment
please don't talk about shit you have zero knowledge of

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura is basically a glue-sniffer
Not surprised.

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>>1555746
When one of them does something and it works the others follow suit because it will also be a hit on their streams. They're employed by a corporation so they don't push boundaries and do what's safe.

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>>1571130

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>>1564144
Samurai warriors 3/4

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>>1559492
Rrats aside, it's probably mostly this rather than anything more insidious. Coupled with copyright stuff.

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>>1557384
>no holo will ever stream a Serious Sam or Shadow Warrior game

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>>1570861
Youtube is not an american institution, it's a platform owned by a large corporation. Using their service is a privilege bestowed by google, not a right given by the government. If youtube doesn't like what you say they can completely legally banish you from their platform.
In the same way, any privately owned business can refuse service, and a property owner can refuse entrance to their property at their preference.

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>>1559492
no please dont spoil me about duolingo no

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>>1572192
The bird was the murderer. In the study with a candlestick.

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>>1572192
I wonder if anyone's tried speedrunning duolingo. That includes all languages.

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>>1570110
>Streaming someone else's video game is not fair use, even in America.
fair use is vague, but it's not that retarded. a stream of a video game is not something which would offer an alternative to the game without having to pay the company for. video games are interactive and, unlike traditional media (e.g. movies, music. etc.), the interactivity is a core part of the experience and can't be gained from watching a stream

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>>1572859
cool, still doesn't make it fair use

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>>1560347
Whoa! Lamy's really enthusiastic about her horse idols.

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>>1572356
>I wonder if anyone's tried speedrunning duolingo.
That's require a fluent speaker of said language to blow through the language lessons.

100% completely pointless.

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>>1572913
do your reading comprehension reps, anon

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>>1556928
Haachama tried doing that and Cover shit on it. Even ignoring her, it seems to take a lot of work for not much pay off. (Kiara's german stories, Ame's Halloween and Thanksgiving streams, etc.) Much easier to stick to Apex or Minecraft for a few hours a week.

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>>1572859
>>1572913
Okay, before we go any further with this, please post a timestamped picture of your law degree or state bar admission. Thank you. Pic unrelated.

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>>1573274
>you need a law degree to understand law

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>>1557577
>have the strike repealed through YouTube
have you seen how shit the repeal system is anon? It can take months for a strike to get repealed, during which you earn absolutely no money from the video and there's no guaruntee you'll even get it repealed in the first place. Sometimes they'll even straight up tell you to settle it with the person who struck the video because they don't give a shit enough to deal with it themselves.

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>>1573264
Haachama dragged out what should have been a cool week long video series into some schizo month long arc depicting hangings, beheadings and suicide. Ame's halloween stream playing with filters was creative? Her thanksgiving stream was a glorified cooking stream using fan submitted art to make a parade. Only Kiara's german stories were actually creative but completely neglected because most people are put off by Kiara.
Marine does creative streams all the time ex. Grandma Marine, Hololive profile book, her utawaku setlists are the best in Hololive from classic 90s bangers to more recent shit with a lot and I mean a lot of old NND references from the early 2010s. Its up to each talent to mix it up and do interesting streams, if they choose to phone it in thats on them.

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>>1557718
The IP Jew wont touch Korone because she has Yakuza connections

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>>1555746
>Conspiracy
nice bait faggot

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>>1565330
Luna as well

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>>1579343
smoothbrain OP doesn't understand that when Cover [finally] gets the rights to something it's free real estate for all of the talent.

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>>1557063
Even if they won on Youtube, if Capcom sued them they'd lose. There's no fair use in Japan, you either pay the owner to use their shit or you get fucked in court, it's that simple.

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>>1570861
>and such a decision to ban someone from viewing a product that someone had bought would have far reaching consequences for the first amendment.
If you buy a movie, you can not legally just show it to whoever and collect tips from people for providing your service. If this were not true sites like Netflix would not waste so much money in licensing movies and shows.
>>1572859
Although I do not believe this interactivity thing makes something fair use, instead I would like to propose a simple counter point. A video game's music / sound effects are under copyright too. The sound effects and music are reproduced by streamers without a license often for commercial use.

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>>1557384
Fuck, now I really want to watch Gura play Carrion.

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>>1555746
Japanese can only copy pls undersutando

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>>1579450
>There's no fair use in Japan
this mutt reddit meme as usual is too generalised because mutts always wanna doommoger about japan and feel safe or superior to cover their sjw fuckups up

they have just a different standard like doujin culture. disney never allows you to sell disney doujin in your muttland

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_288_ZQzY6I

HEY MOONA

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>>1580846
>like doujin culture
But can't they techically fuck you up even with doujins if they want to?

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>>1581011
>technically

legally? they can but they dont. thats the different standard . the big corps have their own standards and the laws dont matter there.

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>>1570861
>it absolutely is, precedence is the cornerstone of us law, and such a decision to ban someone from viewing a product that someone had bought would have far reaching consequences for the first amendment.
Link us the court case where streaming video games was ruled to be fair use under current IP laws.

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>>1579100
>Grandma Marine
Granny Womb is top tier.

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>>1567859
Yes. I'm a S though

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>>1565421
>I laughed at a joke the bird made
Time to die

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>>1556341
If permissions are a problem why dont they hire people who play more traditional games like chess and poker? Even tabletop RPG players, if Cover can get the permissions for one popular game, they can play that game forever

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>>1581064
link to the court case where it isn't

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>>1592190
please stfu if you have no idea how us copyright laws work, thanks

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>>1592408
your personal gameplay itself is transformative, when vods start getting DMCA'd it's almost always false copystrike trolling or the game's music was licensed by a 3rd party and it's a the record label claiming music.

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>>1592472
>your personal gameplay itself is transformative
no, it's not, and it has never been established in a court case as precedent.

>when vods start getting DMCA'd it's almost always false copystrike trolling or the game's music was licensed by a 3rd party and it's a the record label claiming music.
t. someone who has no idea what they're talking about.

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>>1592500
t. cope

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>>1592500
Even with a court case a judge can make a ruling citing that it's only for this specific case meaning it would change absolutely nothing.

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>>1592516
how are you this fucking stupid over a thing you can literally just google?

>>1592538
also this. thank you. determination of fair use has always been done on a case by case basis.

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>>1592682
there's a reason why devs only claim they have the right to gameplay footage while refusing to ever let that claim make it inside a courtroom despite the thousands of hours of gameplay footage streamed and uploaded on social media every day. because they know they'll lose their right to that claim if it ever comes down to a judge's ruling.

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>>1555746
Newfag begone

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>>1592867
>while refusing to ever let that claim make it inside a courtroom
that's because lawsuits are fucking expensive and average joe has no money. it'd be a waste to take everyone of them to court despite the countless instances of copyright infringement. it's not because they're "scared" of losing in court, almost all of them would by won by the publisher.

this is also why companies that care will just DMCA your account to oblivion on Twitch and Content ID strike you on Youtube. they don't have to deal with a lawsuit and they can get your account banned in under a month.

[Anonymous No.]

I started using duolingo but then I noticed that my phone is too small to show all the options in the japanese quizzes. I guess I might stick to learning french

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>>1555746
Only when Yagoo is whoring them out to promote a gacha, like EN's Princess Connect streams with Crunchroll TM. Gamers had to do some similar shit with Arknights and one of the boat slut games also rented out some Holos.

If Cover was curating everything then the game streams would be like 50% Minecraft and Korone wouldn't get to play all those 16 bit retro titles.

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>>1562362
Lying about the product count as fraud. So other companies can't say that they created/invented the thing. Claiming to represent/be the company too. Abolishing IP laws makes monopolies break.
And the concept of IP is retarded anyway. You can't have rights on a concept, on an idea. You don't lose yours if someone copies it. They're not scarce. They only multiply, get distributed.
Imagine trademarking words and phrases - oh wait, Marvel and DC shares the trademark on the word "superhero"; catchphrases like "get ready to rumble" are trademarked too; you can't print a famous word or brand on a T-Shirt and sell it, despite making it yourself.
You might think: "Oh, then let's just not have IP laws for that", but there's still bullshit like you can't show the HOLLYWOOD sign on something commercial. You can't sell a picture you took of something that can be seen thorough the city.

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>>1556341
There are also the instances where holos have to play a game because of a paid promotion deal.

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>>1571374
thanks anon for this pic I was searching days ago

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>>1557384
Hotline Miami gameplay when?

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>>1557384
this good enough for an indie, right?

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>>1597784
>ywn see your oshi partake in a drug-fueled rampage against the russians
why even live

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>>1555746
All the girls play the same games because they all have the same pool of permissions to pull from. It only makes sense to play the new game you have access to.

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>>1557384
I wonder if they just got sick of receiving the emails from hololive managers/fans. That's shits got to get annoying especially for western devs who for the most part do not give a shit about who plays their games.