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>>15996280

>> No.16010348

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.16010357
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16010357

You know that Selen is best girl, right?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1479021115443855360

>> No.16010377

Streams over 10k so far (07.01.2022 JST)

Towa 38,541
Gura 26,854
Ame 18,518
Ina 16,075
Mori 14,984
Suisei 14,926
Oliver 14,284
Marine 13,037
Ame 11,835
Suisei 11,423
IRyS 10,679

>> No.16010387

who will be the first chuuba to die from ccvid

>> No.16010390

Susan please have this fixed soon. My oshi was just starting to incline

>> No.16010410

Why is Gura not culled? Insular audience?

>> No.16010418

>>16010318
Historical depiction of the storming of youtube HQ, circa January 2022

>> No.16010429

>>16010390
Keep seething
t. Susan

>> No.16010433
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16010433

Riri Karaoke peak ccv:
Twitch 264
Youtube 150 (~250-350 before bug)

Still love this cute snek

>> No.16010444

>>16010387
Iofi or Anya

>> No.16010460
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16010460

Ironmouse passed Chihiro, she and Veibae have been moving up a bit lately.

>> No.16010464

>>16010410
Your brain got culled

>> No.16010466

>>16010410
Whatever they did affects JP audiences more than EN audiences, which is why I have the theory that in addition to flagging accounts as spambots they also did something to the verification process that makes it take far longer, especially for Japanese viewers. It's the only way >>16010357 this phenomenon can be explained.

>> No.16010468

>>16010410
Chumbuds don't watch other holos

>> No.16010482

>>16010410
She absolutely is.

>> No.16010487

>>16010357
needs to complain more like kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxV6a-WUdcw

>> No.16010500

>>16010466
They probably filtered non Latin alphabet account.

>> No.16010519

>>16010500
Or whatever code they pushed through doesn't handle non latin characters very well.

>> No.16010543

>>16010433
her ribbon on the new outfit is too fucking huge

>> No.16010549

>>16010500
No they only filtered /jp/ only beta male accounts

>> No.16010555

>>16010500
not my case and im still culled

>> No.16010586

>>16010061
susan doesn't want cartoon girls speaking in japanese to be the top dogs of live youtube gaming. no popular twitch streamer would want to move to youtube (without getting paid millions) just to play second fiddle to vtubers.

>> No.16010598

>>16010460
That's what happens when you let the twitch squads run a train on you.

>> No.16010642
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16010642

I think society man has it too. His Nike is not that bad yet, but still an unusual drop. 1799 to 747.

>> No.16010702

>>16010410
we did the math on her GTAV stream, she is getting culled
>>15864589
check the thread, there's more stuff

>> No.16010706

>>16010642
he recovered in 5 minutes, that's not the cull.

>> No.16010712

>>16010487
Complain on Twitter is effective because people can send it to YouTube's team

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>>16010706
A previous stream to compare. 1756 to 973. His drop is not higher than 50% in any of his pre-2022 streams: https://vrabi.ml/channel/UChUJbHiTVeGrSkTdBzVfNCQ

>> No.16010774

>>16010642
Why does he look like that.

>> No.16010792

I’m leaving this hell hole until susan gets her shit together. Its just a matter of time until some faggot starts a vshojo vs Holo timeloop.

>> No.16010800

>>16010792
see you tomorrow

>> No.16010802

>>16010712
Youtube twitter has already replied multiple times that they are investigating and maybe "fixing" it. They are probably going to do nothing about it just like the december2020 cull.
At this point we need to rile up the masses, the more the numbers drop, the more shit needs to be thrown at the fan by everybody

>> No.16010818

We could calculate the percentage of time watame is crying on stream.

>> No.16010830

>>16010792
>until some faggot starts a vshojo vs Holo timeloop.
Has anyone been biting recently?
Feels like most people have smartened up by now.
It's already been a week.

>> No.16010900

im going to start sending dm's to holo_data
where the numbers bro
were the big numberfags really just doing it for japanese glory

>> No.16010920

>>16010586
Yes and no. Youtube could have gone the path of focusing on the streamers but they've chosen not to. Twitch for all the good they do have issues with it's platform as well.
I do agree with you that fucking with ccv to much will cause youtube to only be an attractive option if there is a large paycheck added to the deal.

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>> No.16010948
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>>16010830
people have been biting like every day of the past week, we had to put this shit up as a warning

>> No.16010964

>>16010830
If only our fellow friends would stop biting spicschizo and Pekoschizo baits.

>> No.16010974

>>16010774
Because society

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>>16010929
ouch
imagine being them, looking at the room number and BOOM, 90% less people
it must be physically painful, like imagine, you are working and some day the paycheck is 50% less, and you know it's an error but the boss keeps sending you the same money saying "they are looking into it"

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before I go to sleep
at 7AM

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>>16011111
Checked
Shit like this is unreal

>> No.16011208

>>16010702
>we did the math on her GTAV stream
lol

>> No.16011211
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16011211

Hello /numbers/, I don’t know how Youtube algorithm works so my questions may be kinda dumb but here goes:

1) Does watchtime matters?
2) If you’re shadowbanned, will the algorithm take note of your watchtime? Will the my view be added to the total views after the stream is over?

>> No.16011218

>>16011111
I think this often happened in collabs
Because overlapping won't affect waiting room numbers

>> No.16011291

>>16011211
>1) Does watchtime matters?
Yes

>2) If you’re shadowbanned, will the algorithm take note of your watchtime? Will the my view be added to the total views after the stream is over?
YouTube support says yes. VOD views seems consistent so it’s likely true

>> No.16011306

>>16011211
1) Yes, but not the watchtime that's publicly available. Youtube pays out YouTube premium revenue based off their internal watchtime, which according to them should remain unaffected by recent changes, which leads to
2) presumably yes, because youtube has repeatedly stated that these recent changes shouldn't affect payout. It's up to you if you want to trust them though.

>> No.16011314

>>16011208
I'm feel sorry for your precious JP get mogged by EN so hard now

>> No.16011328

>>16011314
i did the math on my oshi and actually she's getting culled by 95% so checkmate idiot

>> No.16011338

>>16011314
Ditching your favorite phrase last samurai won't hide who you are, spic.

>> No.16011344

>>16011291
>>16011306
Thanks anons

>> No.16011358

>>16011111
Nike should sponsor Hololive.

>> No.16011386

>>16011208
Bait? They did do the math on her stream and there are evidences that she also got hit, just not to the extent of the JPs

>> No.16011395

>>16011328
>>16011338
Keep seething ENschizo LMAO

>> No.16011401

>>16011386
"doing math" in a thread full of schizos with their head full of conspiracies is slightly suspect

>> No.16011459

>>16011395
Come on, I'm still waiting for you to do 46000-46000*50%.

>> No.16011517

>>16011401
I understand that there are a lot of schizos in this place but I doubt an anon trying to answer a question using past verifiable numbers without shitposting is a schizo

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Hololive January watch time rankings up to the Mario Kart tournament. Probably doesn't make much sense due to the CCV culling but I made it anyway. Myth ranking much higher than usual, probably because they aren't culled as much.

>> No.16011586

I know you're frustrated these days, ENschizo but you have to get used to it

>> No.16011634

>>16011586
Your opinion will never matter so long you are unable to do grade school math in the numbers thread.
Go use a calculator or something, stop embarrassing yourself.

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16011668

It's not even a Nike anymore. It's an L.

>> No.16011722

>16011634
NTA but why are these ESLtards always deflecting and being a schizo anyways? Does the existence of EN makes these niggers seethe LMAO

>> No.16011734
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16011734

Ouch

>> No.16011750

koyori horror game 4100
kazama singing 3300

what did samurai go wrong?

>> No.16011753

>>16011734
OOF

>> No.16011752

>>16011556
Wait, so this doesn't count Gura's karaoke stream?

>> No.16011766

>16011722
>NTA
roru

>> No.16011790

>>16011734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqwp-W9Au08

>> No.16011801

>>16011752
Gura's unarchived Karaoke stream is not counted since HoloStats didn't catch it and all the data is from HoloStats.

>> No.16011805

>>16011722
Because EN mogs their rabbit queen anon.
I don't hate Pekora, but some of her /jp/ only fans are just unbearable

>> No.16011808

>>16011734
2view Flare let's goooooo

>> No.16011823

>>16011805
>>16011556

>> No.16011829

youtube's view system has always done this, you get into a stream and when it starts the waiting room number is basically cut in half, the only difference is that normally it recovers pretty quickly so it's insignificant, but it hasn't been doing that.

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>>16011808
finally, I can groom her.

>> No.16011863

>>16010410
She is. If she isn't culled, Pekora's VOD should have beaten Gura by now.

>> No.16011878

Chloe didn't even get that many SCs today. Recline arc?

>> No.16011946

>>16011829
Instead of cutting it by 30-50% and recovering in 5 minutes, it now cuts it by 90% and recovers 2 days after the stream ends

>> No.16011949

>>16011878
She stinky

>> No.16011954

>>16011878
They’re stating to abandon her and Hololive because it looks like they’re reclining

>> No.16011973

So, Fubuki is doing her shiny hunting to 'only' 6.7k people.
How many are actually there you reckon?

>> No.16012004

>>16011973
People just don't want to watch pokemon anymore

>> No.16012007

>>16011878
Nobody did well on SCs during the tournament, not even Okayu because none of them read the chat, then her aftertalk was a collab with Lui which is obviously a nerf. She'll do a zatsudan either today or today and get a billion "taikai otsukare-sama" supas most likely.

>> No.16012021

>>16011734
where do you get the graphs from?

>> No.16012040

>>16011878
>Chloe didn't even get that many SCs today. Recline arc?
Admitting that she's stinky wasn't a good career decision.

>> No.16012100

In other news
https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1479426879673466888
https://tokyo-joypolis.com/event/hololive_jp2021/index.html

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It just keeps getting worse, and remember there should be a post-tournament buff right now
>>16012021
Vrabi, link is in the top reply

>> No.16012117

>>16012021
vrabi. First post of this thread

>> No.16012139

Since the CCV is fucked, here's some useless metric

Peak CCV / Unique chatters

Towa 37,680 / 11,865
Gura 26,732 / 5,433
Mori 14,919 / 4,202
Suisei 14,583 / 4,100
Ina 16,075 / 3,804
IRyS 10,601 / 3,416
Marine 13,008 / 2,830
Chloe 3,300 / 2,794
Laplus 4,628 / 2,701
Watame 5,026 / 2,591
Ayame 4,386 / 2,478
Iroha 4,168 / 2,458
Nene 1,749 / 2,394
Baelz 8,420 / 2,393
Aqua 9,272 / 2,254
Miko 6,093 / 2,220
Pekora 9,963 / 2,158
Lui 2,132 / 1,926
Polka 2,223 / 1,922
Kanata 3,945 / 1,853
Fubuki 4,914 / 1,836
Mio 2,071 / 1,775
Reine 4,418 / 1,758
Luna 1,707 / 1,543
Koyori 3,196 / 1,512
Mel 1,247 / 1,495
Lamy 1,867 / 1,366
Noel 2,543 / 1360
Okayu 7,808 / 1,326
Subaru 5,692 / 1,281
Ollie 1,892 / 1,173
Choco 1,752 / 1,095
Matsuri 1,709 / 1,086
Flare 2,174 / 1,079
Aki 663 / 966
Roboco 1,001 / 593

>> No.16012159

>>16012115
should we even care at this point? Selen already confirmed the CCV is all false now

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Wonder why she stopped the stream...
But I'm happy she mogged Pekora views

>> No.16012194

>>16012139
Pretty much match the CCV

>> No.16012264

>>16011949
>>16012040
This and her breaking her kayfabe to admit that she's faking her voice in her zatsu yesterday prolly turned off a lot of her gachis lol. She also reached 700k subs during the stream and it "only" nets her 1.4 million yen which is lower than I thought.

>> No.16012282

>>16012139
>Aki 663 / 966
150% engagement let gooooooo

>> No.16012285

>>16012159
Should we take the numbers at face value and keep celebrating and arguing over medals and daily charts? No of course not, but it's more just fascinating at this point to see just how low we can go because it's still accelerating. And the worse it gets the less likely YT is to just brush it under the carpet.

>> No.16012297

>>16012139
>Mel 1,247 / 1,495
That is a funny ass number. I've never heard of that many people using chat in proportion to viewers.

>> No.16012341

>>16012139
>Nene 1,749 / 2,394

>> No.16012350

>>16012115
>>16012117
thank you!

>> No.16012382

>>16012297
Nijisanji paid extra to cull Mel harder.

>> No.16012383

>>16012264
People are into the stinky thing don't be retarded, $12k for an hour long zatsu is insane and she's *still* being massively nerfed by her manager not letting her reading supers with monetization on. Don't let the numberrot get to you.

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>>16012139
Pakora...

>> No.16012490

>>16012264
>to admit that she's faking her voice
I don't think that a single viewer ever thought that she speaks like that irl

>> No.16012510
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Kiara don't look..

>> No.16012513

>>16012383
The stinkyness is just a way to she doesn't have a BF without saying she doesn't have a BF. Someone who doesn't bathe for a week clearly has no social life to speak of, which pleases her audience

>> No.16012521

>>16012264
Anon, that zatsu was guerilla and she find out about 700k subs a few minutes before stream. If she knew that earlier and schedule the stream in 12hr like her senpais, she will get more sc.

>> No.16012555

Gura mogged Pekora hard today in Mario Kart and in CCV.
I can understand some people don’t feel too good

>> No.16012608

>>16012513
>stay in your room and don't talk to men except the thousands of men you talk to every time you stream
Okay

>> No.16012611

>>16012383
Mane chan is right. She's draining her fans far too quickly unless she somehow got the Oil Baron demographic. Lets say Chloe has 1,000 dedicated fans doing 80% of the superchatting, each and every one of them has spent 200 dollars on her last month. I wouldn't be surprised if her biggest whales dropped 10k last month, I see the same names dropping 50k yens every stream

>> No.16012634

>>16012264
Anon, most Holos faked their voice early on. Some still do.
I wish Bae would drop the fake voice.

>> No.16012635

Towa doing a totsu with guests like Sui and Miko and can't hit 2k. Cull is fucking murdering her.

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>>16012608
Yes

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>>16012510
Okayu too

>> No.16012664

>>16012635
Suisei and Miko, what do you expect?

>> No.16012672

>>16012555
This is the numbers thread, friend. The reclining rabbit fanclub is a few threads down.

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>>16011734
I dropped Flare this week, I'm sorry but I just can't enjoy watching someone with numbers this low.

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>>16012608
Men can't fuck you over the internet anon, there's a big difference

>> No.16012714

>>16012635
The most infested fanbase(besides VSPO's) just went to her channel. Her channel was tourist central and probably had a real CCV of 70k-80k. Everyone is infected now.

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>>16012513
>stinkyness is just a way to she doesn't have a BF without saying she doesn't have a BF
Or that her bf is a smellfag

>SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
IMAGINE THE SMELL!

>> No.16012802

>>16012159
>Selen
I've yet to see someone discuss how badly she was culled. Besides, if it was *that* simple, why aren't other VTubers that got culled harder than Selen not coming out? Surely it's just an easy task looking at your analytics.

>> No.16012883

>>16010466
>Whatever they did affects JP audiences more than EN audiences
Wrong. EN have been dealing with it for over a year. It just started to affect JP

>> No.16012893

>>16012714
Meanwhile Chieri just recovered her waiting room in 4 minutes and is sailing smoothly towards her normal average of 1000 viewers, is .LIVE the Madagascar of this pandemic?

>> No.16012894

>>16012802
30% is just 2020 tier and Selen is just a bit player.

>> No.16012912

>>16012139
>Gura mogged Pekora's CCV, VODs, and unique chatters this tournament while also beating Pekora in the game itself.
oof

>> No.16012945

1.7k seems like pretty normal numbers for Aki.

>> No.16013038

>>16012139
>Gura 26,732 / 5,433
>Mori 14,919 / 4,202
>Ina 16,075 / 3,804
>IRyS 10,601 / 3,416
>Baelz 8,420 / 2,393

ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING

IRyS 13:30 ~ 14:00
Gura 14:00 ~ 14:30
Mori 14:30 ~ 15:00 (1st stream)
Ina 15:00 ~ 15:30
Baelz 15:30 ~ 16:00 (1st stream)
Mori + Baelz 16:00 ~ 16:30 (2nd stream for both)

>> No.16013042

>>16012635
Rion is doing totsu too (birthday totsu)

>> No.16013060

>>16012490
>>16012634
Of course they're aware of the fake voice these women are putting on and willing to accept it to keep the delusion intact. But when said women blatantly admit to their hardcore viewers that they are in fact putting an act, the realization would upset them, I would guess.

>> No.16013094

>>16012912
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1479326477938458632

Pekora was actually cheering on Gura after Gura beat her
That's good sportsmanship out there but some nousagis just don't have that

>> No.16013095

Towa’s unique chatters were mostly cumbuds spamming about how great Gura did despite not even placing.

>> No.16013104

>>16013060
>I would guess.
I think you are guessing wrong because (for instance) Suisei had to absolutely drop her former voice and it didn't impact her much

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>>16013042
Looks like Pajeet bot decided she doesn't have more than 4k viewers.

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Was there any discussion regarding this?
Are likes being culled too?

>> No.16013170

>>16013129(me)
Is there any theory on why these obviously artificial ceilings have been placed on a lot of streams?

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Ike doesn't seem to be infected yet. Makes sense that NijiEN males would be the last to get the virus since they have a new audience without too much overlap with the rest of the vtuber community.

>> No.16013245

>>16013129
>>16013170
>any theory on why these obviously artificial ceilings
I say Youtube is not displaying the real live viewers number, they have an estimate to the closest thousand (much like the retarded VNUMA 2.0 did) and they return it with a "fudge factor" to pretend it is normal variation.

>> No.16013259

>>16013160
The ratio between likes and comments?
Yes, some did a post about about Gura's last post

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>>16013160
youtube, at this point, is held together by string and tape

>> No.16013273

>>16013104
Nonsensical comparison. Suisei almost never read SCs and she doesn pander to gachikois at all. She's largely unaffected by the voice change.

>> No.16013290

>>16013220
They're still "untouched" untill more collabs with nijien girls...

>> No.16013312

>>16013129
>>16013160
According to Youtube the CCV displayed are "potential estimates". At this point who knows if CCV was ever a (culled) count of real-time viewers.

>> No.16013346

>>16013290
Elira, Finana, and Selen have aids.

>> No.16013364

>>16012945
Ark is buff numbers for her, she should get 3k if her old ark fans don't leave her

>> No.16013401
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>> No.16013423

>>16013273
Her fans also like her new deeper voice.

>> No.16013502

>Suisei streaming right now
>4k viewers, almost 9k likes
>30 minutes in
Susan...

>> No.16013540

>>16013401
Is pekora's husband slowly getting infected? Looks like a la creatividad stream which should get higher numbers.

>> No.16013543

>>16013401
Isn’t that kind of low for Katou or no

>> No.16013627

>>16013129
its over...

>> No.16013633

>>16013540
If only.
His numbers jump up and down in this range.
Now, if he starts streaming to below 40k people on the regular? Yes that would probably be a sign that something's wrong.

>> No.16013752

>>16013160
Yeah, Gura's post an hour after the tourney had like 57. Was really weird when 200+ congratulated her.

>> No.16013795

All this CCVID happening which reminds me, does Bili2 also cull viewbots in the land where bots run rampant or is there a bigger streaming platform in China?

>> No.16013850

>>16013094
Kek. Chumbuds throwing stones in their glass houses. I do agree there are plenty of bad faith nousagis or trolling nousagis. But there are plenty of equally bad chumbuds plaguing this board.

>> No.16013873

>>16013160
Interesting, I'm not one to leave likes on anything, but I left a like when it was 57 and saw it increment to 58. Refreshed, it went and stayed on 57. Removed my like, and saw it decrement to 56. Refreshed and it went back to 57.
Seems like this issue is also happening to normal channels (NBC News 13 hour old community post)

>> No.16013937

>>16013795
Bilibili gets around viewbots by giving more active and older accounts greater "weight" when it comes to their metrics which make it hard to guage how effective viewbots are and also make iut more expensive to develop useful viewbots. They are still they, they just get masked by the magic numbers

>> No.16013969

>>16013873
youtube is falling apart

>> No.16014025

>only 90k in the waiting room with 5x Gura's subs

Is League of Legends the new Fubuki?

>> No.16014029

>>16011734
a groomable hag, now isnt that something

>> No.16014061

Rewatching Towa’s stream and Chumbuds were spamming like crazy after Okayu won. They didn’t even mention Okayu, just talked about how good Gura did.

>> No.16014103

>>16014061
Just like when they spammed FBK after Gura hit 1M before her, then spammed RBC after the Among Us collab.

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Remember a few weeks ago when we were joking 2022 would be the year .LIVE returns to the top?

>> No.16014122

>>16014061
>>16014103
Numbers thread, anon. hlg is the other way.

>> No.16014125

>>16013969
Good. The more fucked things are the more likely they are to try and fix it.

I just want someone to stick their feet into twitch so I can see the 30k+ streams I know are happening behind the lies.

>> No.16014138

>>16011734
She'll never play a non-Minecraft game again after this

>> No.16014147

>>16014103
I hate fucking seachumkeks so fucking much.
It's no doubt those fuckers too, the rest of the EN speaking world was either at work or sleeping at that point.

>> No.16014148

>>16013401
どりゃああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ

>> No.16014157

>>16013873
I wonder if this is just a bug that’s always been there

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>>16014061
>>16014103
>>16014147

>> No.16014198

>>16014157
no it's a new bug, it seems to be affecting all community posts at the moment. Video likes appear unaffected.

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07/01/22, the day the Nike turned into an L. Susan giving the L to hololive.

>> No.16014239

>>16014198
Oh great, yet another piece of trash to hurl onto the fire.
Just what in unholy hell did they ship with the API update? That's probably when the 'culling' algo started flagging shit, since that was the last chance they had to throw something into the system before holiday break.

>> No.16014240

>>16014198
Maybe while “fixing” the bug they fucked up another feature. Or it’s something that happened when they hid dislikes.

>> No.16014273

>>16014215
The graph will start tending downward and never go up soon...

>> No.16014284

>>16014240
It's new, like, within the day new since the last member's only lost by Gura before the one that got posted (the one for her member's chat) had no problems with likes.
>>16014215
SOON. 2VIEWS.

>> No.16014312

>>16014215
We’re going back to early 2019 Hololive

>> No.16014327

>>16013795
By not showing viewcounts

>> No.16014350 [DELETED] 

T-thanks Youtube

>> No.16014374

Kanae 4k during a mahjong soul collab earlier on youtube, now 5k playing the same game solo on twitch
I’m pretty sure he never used to pass his youtube numbers playing the same game on twitch before

>> No.16014401

>>16013850
Yeah?
Of course there are bad chumbuds too
But I don't see them plaguing this board like some nousagis shitting on non-jp Holos

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>>16014374
good for him

>> No.16014496

T-thanks Youtube
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1479358450253582336
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1479353501008470018
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1479316480571449351

>> No.16014507

>>16012634
They're acting, not just voice acting also their personality. You can't earn viewership if you use ur real voice and being themselves as usual.

Even Towa ate tons of dislikes in debut stream because of her dobubo voice

>> No.16014545

>>16014401
>not seen any cumbuds shitting on jp-holos
>posting in the numbers thread post youtube fuckery
are you legally blind? does your minder filter what posts you hear?

>> No.16014559

Towa isn't cucked out of gold like she normally is but she is patient zero. She is struggling to reach 1.5k during a normal stream.

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Obvious bait... Must... not.... bite...

>> No.16014579

>>16014496
This fucking site what the fuck, I really have no hope they'll fix any of this shit

>> No.16014584

>>16014496
yep, it's affecting everyone

>> No.16014603

>>16014496
Why are they all indian

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>likes getting culled too
IT'S OVER

>> No.16014627

>>16013937
>by giving more active and older accounts greater "weight"
Wait, that's kinda disgusting. So, if thousands of bots aren't culled and they're allowed to roam free for years, the viewbot provider can make a large profit from engineering views for channels that pays for the viewbots service. How the fuck sponsors are gonna trust bili2 livestreamers?

>> No.16014636

>>16014168
anons... /jp/ is down that way...

>> No.16014638

>>16014507
Just talking out of my ass here but it feels like after a certain amount of time the talents “earn” the right to cut down on the kayfabe.
On the topic of Watame’s MV for “my song”, she said it took around 5-6 months to produce.

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What's that, there's more likes on the stream than people watching? Those must be bots, let's get rid of them too.

>> No.16014665

This year will be a true test of how much your favourites love vtubing.

>> No.16014686

>>16014496
they are actually straight up breaking their site, why are they touching what worked already

>> No.16014702

>>16014496
To be fair, none of them were about CCV. Those were about amount of Likes, which is a much more vanity metric and so far it hasn't gotten anywhere nearly as much traction as the CCV fiasco. Heck, it took until big content creators (and probably hundreds other people across the world) start complaining that YT switched from "It's normal" to "We'll look into it"

>> No.16014708

>>16014559
Did she give VSPO the aids who then gave it to the FPS community or did they give it to Towa who spread it to Hololive?

>> No.16014722

>>16014612
You mean subtracted.

When is every youtube account gonna be counted as a bot?

>> No.16014747

>>16014686
youtube encourages their devs to make something new rather than maintain what they have so they have something shiny to put on their resume when they move on, that's why they constantly switch layouts every few years even though nobody had a problem with the old one.

>> No.16014757

>>16014627
they don't even show viewer numbers anon, they show an "engagement score" that is produced by multiplying the viewer count by a bunch of secret modifiers, so a stream with 1000 actual viewers could show 200 or 100000 and nobody knows why

>> No.16014817

>>16014496
>Youtube filtering the legitimacy of likes now
Its over bros. Soon, every Holo will have 2 digit CCV, and struggle to reach 100 likes and 1000 VOD views.

>> No.16014845

Damm, Towa got 20k subs in 1 day. It seems MK tourney attracted a lot of tourists.

>> No.16014850

>>16014496
>team: they are complaining that they have more likes than ccv!
>Susan: nerf likes

>> No.16014883

>>16014845
my bad, 10k

>> No.16014898

>>16014496
Everyone is fucked bros. This is the end

>> No.16014904

>>16014496
Next up is filtering poll votes.

>> No.16014909

>>16014603
Cheaper labor without any complaints

>> No.16014912

>>16014845
10k anon, 10k. Please. This is the numbers thread.

>> No.16014932

Looking over the views from the Tournament PoVs, it looks like some salty oshi fans tanked the views for the latter races when their favorite got knocked out. After Towa's host stream, 4 of the next 5 top viewed PoVs came from Group B. Of those, Pekora and Aqua got knocked out and Gura didn't stream a follow-up PoV during her Winners Cup races.

>> No.16014941

>>16014850
Gods, next they'll cap polls too.
If they do that, I really do hope at that point both Niji and Holo start streaming on Twitch, and then throw that into the face of the incompetent cryptofag that's supposed to be in charge of gaming livestreaming.

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>>16014845

>> No.16014993

>>16014496
But as we can see they appear to be flagging real people too. How can anyone trust YT at this junction?

>> No.16015020

>>16014941(me)
I don't suggest this lightly either, but at this rate everyone is gonna be streaming to 1k people, with bizarre engagement metrics a d nonsensical numbers, a f the only way YT is going to budge is if SOMETHING gives out first.

>> No.16015029

Imagine if they start sub culling those flagged accounts too. Imagine hololive losing millions of subs overnight.

>> No.16015048

>>16014496
>>16013873
What's funny is this 'validation' isn't being down for comment likes for community posts, so currently on gura's member post, there are 2x more like on a comment than her own post. (411 vs 210)

>> No.16015053

>>16014975
The fact Towa got 47k subs in the last month despite being on break for over a week is pretty impressive

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>HOLY SHIT
Beni got fucked worse than anyone I've seen. Hard capped at 350, her usual numbers were in the 2.5k

I still maintain that the nip FPS crowd are the "patient zero" of this whole thing

>> No.16015083

>>16015029
Good, because subs are actually important to the average normalfag and it'll definitely cause a big enough ruckus to force Susan to revert her pajeet garbage.

>> No.16015094

>>16015029
That already happened, dummy! Council and HoloX lost more subs than NijiEN ever got

>> No.16015107

>>16015029
If they're so sure they're "spam accounts", they should start banning them.
See how quickly that turns into a shitstorm.

>> No.16015112

Just saw Gura's practice collab with Fauna lose views

>> No.16015115

>>16015061
It's bad, but it's not on the level of those giga L's that hololive is getting now: >>16014215

>> No.16015156

>>16015115
Hollolive is always a week ahead. Next week everyone will get L's

>> No.16015163

>>16014215
AKI ROSE.... ;-(

>> No.16015173

>>16015061
NAH BRO, ONLY HOLOLIVE IS EFFECTED BECAUSE THEY BUY BOTS! COPE, SEETHE, DILATE!

>> No.16015201

>>16015112
That's normal at this point. It's either culling of 'low quality' views or consolidation of some of the views as there was a screenshot that showed CCV and 'watch time'(analytics) go up but views for down, indicating some sort of oddness was going on.

>> No.16015220

>>16015156
All my oshis will literally turn into two-views if it’s not fixed by next week

>> No.16015225

Okay...what the fuck is Youtube's problem? We know there has been an ongoing CCV cull of late but I'm going back over the views to double check what I had gathered earlier and several streams have had about 1000-2500 VODs shaved off in the past 30 minutes.

>> No.16015241

>>16015107
>start banning them
Nah this is just what every bad but rich business does: they welcome the people's patronage but fail to deliver and inconvenience and ignore anyone who complains.

>> No.16015254

>>16014545
I usually don't shit on jp members, nousagi friend unless I see some /jp/ only schizo shit on non-jp members first

>> No.16015264

>>16014904
Or maybe removing polls just like they've removed dislikes and other functions.

>> No.16015283

>>16015225
Holy shit Towa's tournament VOD went back down to 1.4 million, it lost over 100k views.

>> No.16015356

>>16015283
>Isreal

>> No.16015357

Why is YouTube so garbage? How did they fuck up so badly?

>> No.16015384

>>16015283
Same thing happened last year. But last year it was just over 1 million so it stayed a sub 1 million vod for months.

>> No.16015394

>>16015283
Holy crap you aren't kidding, Towa dropped about ~130k from 1,570,543 to 1,438,622.

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>>16015283
>What? VOD doesn't match CCV at all?
Cull it

>> No.16015452

VSPO cover nearing 1M
https://youtu.be/Qh6aSTTkmEs

>> No.16015494
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It's a conspiracy! .LIVE is not getting affected. They want to reclaim their throne.

>> No.16015527

>>16012883
Perhaps they just reintroduced the (((bug))) from last year, some people said they removed it only from the JP side since that's where most of the backlash came from and they were vocal about it on twitter.

>> No.16015619

You guys think Gura can maintain a 20k median this month thanks to the outfit reveal or the CCV is so fucked that it doesn't matter anymore.

>> No.16015726

>>16010802
What we need is another extension to show the real CCV much like we need one to see the hidden dislikes or how without Live TL thingie youtube chat melts CPUs when it's too fast, basic youtube is borderline unusable at this point.

>> No.16015735

>>16015619
No one can have 20k median anymore after the culling, anon
Gura's median this month will probably be 15k

>> No.16015806

>>16015225
Just checked TeamYoutube's twitter and they are getting a lot of queries similar to this. Could be unrelated though. I was actually trying to find another tweet but no luck there.

https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1479163991905685517?t=47VwNxyIjAoDngHksFfm2Q&s=19

>> No.16015841

What are the median ccv numbers so far ?
after the 1st 7 days

>> No.16015851

I wonder if Cover and Anykara are working behind the scenes to contact YouTube and get this fixed. This is seriously harming their business

>> No.16015883

>Anons still shilling twitch
You mf deam well know if they become a "pest" like the hot tub saga for their fave streamers twitch will directly sabotage their vtuber scene like they did with Dr Disrespect after his minimal fuck up but Alinity still scot free
If Melody with chaturbate served as something, it just need some 3view twitch ethot to complaint "a bunch of anime girls and their pedophile fanbase are blocking my grow" and one of their simp higher ups will work to pull a Susan on them.
>But muh Vshojo
Look at the details nigga
The ones growing have been on the streaimg scene for years and have connections to popular cliques.
From EN, only Gura (and at best Ina) has a shot to be protected by popular
and strong cliques, the rest are on their own since they do not belong to any popular and strong clique.
JP may go back to NND because that plattaform still has an audience for some reason.
ID is fucked.

>> No.16015940

>>16015841
Average and peak CCV in >>16011556

>> No.16015992

They should make it so only the streamer can the see live viewers numbers to be honest.

>> No.16016021

>>16015851
We've already seen Youtube's response:
>Watch time, view count, and monetization are not affected, so you don't need to worry
This of course completely ignores the secondary effects of everyone's public numbers cratering (smaller streams pull in fewer new viewers leading to a decline in growth)

>> No.16016078

>>16015883
Wasn’t Dr Disrespect because he lied about having a deal with Mixer to gain leverage when negotiating with Twitch?

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Just 2view my shit up

>> No.16016145

>>16015883
>>16016078
The Dr Disrespect ban is super muddy to have a clear judgement but my rrat is that his ban came from the higher ups in Amazon itself.

>> No.16016146

>>16016021
Yeah this is frustrating. I hope big Vtubers and any company Vtubers start making a huge fuss about this on Twitter or else nothing is going to get better

>> No.16016158

>>16016078
Nobody knows but that is one of the narratives flying around

>> No.16016217

>within the first 30~ish minutes of haachama's stream, her likes grew by 5.7k and she's almost at 29k views already
I'm too afraid to look at her ccv but what should her real ccv be like?

>> No.16016239

Miko is planning to do a watchparty on twitch tomorrow. might be a decent chance to see whether she grew/recline after mikkorone 24h.
Also gauge the baseline holoJP engagement rate if she ever does a poll.
her usual numbers hovers around 5-6k iirc

>> No.16016295

>>16016239
Tell Miko do not do debuff stuff like watchparty on twitch
Just play Minecraft

>> No.16016367

>>16016217
Anywhere from 9k-13k

>> No.16016369
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>>16016217
Incidentally, Haachama got the "Maskchama" treatment. Rigger?

>> No.16016380

>>16016295
Honestly this, she would be better off playing a game.

>> No.16016430

>>16016239
Is there a bigger debuff than watch alongs? Aside from mega obscure games I can’t think of any. Advertise some Twitch streams a week ahead and have Myth do some test streams and a collab or two. Be nice to see five digits numbers again

>> No.16016460

>>16016369
I think in this hairstyle it looks weird but I'm not sure...
>>16016367
jesas....

>> No.16016471

>>16016239
Would be really great, if she did a two part watchalong of some series. First part on twich and second on YT.

>> No.16016476

>>16014665
>This year will be a true test of how much your favourites love vtubing.
No it's not,see >>16010357.

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>Like to viewership
That's even worse then hololive

>> No.16016635
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ENTER THE MOGGING SQUAD

>> No.16016656

>https://twitter.com/intakfanatic/status/1479041798022569991?s=20
>checking YT's reply feeds
>apparently some kpop video got their views culled by about 14k out of 2M views
>dozens of kpop fans/bots screaming to TeamYouTube
chuubas and its fans literally have no weight when compared to this

>> No.16016677

>>16016576
Rumao
Vtuber fans are super sensitive compare to this nigga

>> No.16016692
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They've just started btw

>> No.16016716

>>16016692
>>16016635
Cull soon

t. Susan

>> No.16016720

>>16012802
Selen is super autistic about these things so the moment she noticed something was off she likely already did a ton of research.

This is the same girl that got her company Payday 2 permissions by digging through forums based on a hunch lmao

>> No.16016757

>>16016656
Pls save us...KPOP schizos...

>> No.16016787

>>16016716
Male vtubers are not affected tho(except kuzuha)

>> No.16016794
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Hayma...

>> No.16016808

>>16016635
They really do do better at this time than burger prime time

>> No.16016819

>>16016794
She has some decent overlap with the hololive fanbase from what I've seen.

>> No.16016843

>>16016787
Kanae and Hal seem to

>> No.16016848

>>16016819
but she has way more fortitude and nuts then any of them, playing a real hardcore samurai game nioh 2 over boring sekiro

>> No.16016870

>>16016843
Oh, and Uruca, and Reid

>> No.16016902

>>16016692
When will these two open memberships?

>> No.16016922

>>16016808
Most of their of fans are SEA

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>>16016819
>>16016819
It hit pretty much every single Niji girl by now, even the likes of Fumi. All it takes is a single one of them to have collabed with hololive before to start spreading the virus to the rest.

>> No.16016948

>>16016787
Gwelu literally said he got a 50% cull the other day.

>> No.16016965

>>16016932
RIP.
Only a matter of time till everyone in Niji starts to be heavily affected. Their only hope is to be one of the infrequent streamers and be relatively isolated from those who have it.

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>>16016819
She has never had a problem with this game in this timeslot.

>> No.16017027

>>16016932
I don't recall Hayama collabing with holo girls. I just know she has some holofans based on her being well liked among them of those who know her and she has a very welcoming schedule for NEETs/EOPs
>>16016979
Yeah, she's obviously getting fucked by at least 50%.

>> No.16017053

>>16016948
Yep, Kanae also appears to have been hit as well. Fuwa appears to have avoided it, for now.

>> No.16017116

jwu from coma
what are /we/ calling this happening?

>> No.16017138

>>16017116
CCVid by some, horseshit by others.

>> No.16017152

>>16017116
The great Nijisanji recline

>> No.16017161

>>16017116
Voting for "nike virus"

>> No.16017163

>>16016932
>All it takes is a single one of them to have collabed with hololive before
Then we're pretty sure they didn't catch it from the Holos because they've stonewalled them since the Taiwan yab.

>> No.16017167

>>16016794
It's like a teacher just took one hard look at the report card and just thought fuck it. One big tick will do.

>> No.16017214

>>16016808
Mysta himself said most of his viewers are from Japan

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>>16017027
It acts exactly like a virus, so she caught it from someone else in her company who interacted/collabed with hololive before. For example; Toko could've passed it to Lize who passed it to Ange, who passed it to Hayama, etc.

>> No.16017404

How long do you suppose it takes the real vod views to recover? Kuzuha and Pekora still seem kind of lower than normal. What if there really isn’t a bug

>> No.16017412

>>16015283
my only explanation to this faggotery is that they shave a % of vod just to be 95% sure

>> No.16017465

>>16013268
>>16013160
I bet it's Youtube slowly rolling out the "fix". Instead of actually fixing the issue, they will just apply the same CCV cull to likes and polls.

>> No.16017500

>>16016787
Wasn't Toya unable to get more than 20k when he used to do double that a month ago?

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16017561

>>16017500
Yes I'm pretty sure he has the Susan cap. Those sub 20k numbers are too coincidental for that to not be the case. We can't tell how hard he is being culled since he does not schedule stream though.

>> No.16017691

>>16017561
Probably 30-50%, his CCV for the past few streams make much more sense when you factor that cull in.

>> No.16017712

>>16017404
Never mind I checked some other streams and they do seem pretty normal

>> No.16017896

hey anons, on average how long does it take a VOD to fully process it's views?

>> No.16017942

>>16017896
12-48 hours

>> No.16018129

Numberbros, why currently streaming top ccv board is dominated by cocks?

>> No.16018151

>CCV broke.
>Likes and VOD views are also breaking.
Those this mean that whatever AI Youtube uses to validate viewers is broken across the board and actually affecting every single metric?
Kinda crazy that it's not a bigger deal and barely anybody talks about it. If I was a youtuber, I would be absolutely seething right now.

>> No.16018162

>>16016902
Mysta said his emote artist started drawing his emotes, so probably in a few weeks.

>> No.16018206

>>16018151
in the midterm this glitch or whatever would unironically kill live streaming on youtube

>> No.16018272

>>16018151
yes, I called it days ago but anti ccv retards didn't believe me

>> No.16018329

>>16018151
>>16018206
It'll grow into something too big to ignore since likes and VOD views are noticed a lot. Lord knows what will happen if subs are affected. Not everyone is a vtuber number schizo so people here noticing it around Christmas doesn't mean it's hit the public conscience. We know this thing grows and grows at an alarming rate so it's bound to piss more and more people off.

>> No.16018340

>>16017942
really? how can we figure out which ones are from the live viewers and which are from VOD viewers? is there maybe a view percentage for the increase?

>> No.16018389

>>16018340
We pick whichever suits the narrative we're pushing in the thread at the moment.

>> No.16018390

I think you faggots should just stop numberfagging and enjoy the streams

>> No.16018470

>>16018390
im sorry but 2D will never beat 1D.
numbers IS my oshi

>> No.16018472

>>16018340
Guess mostly. Also estimate average watch time. Like for AZKi's last karaoke I calculated that for the average CCV(2k) to make sense the average watch time needed to be 2 minutes and 48 seconds, which is a load of shit. If people watched about 15 minutes on average she'd be hitting the same number as her last karaoke(11.5k)

VOD views are suspect so we really have nothing we can trust right now.

>> No.16018540

>>16018390
I enjoy streams just fine, I just happen to enjoy numbers too so I think you should suck my cock

>> No.16018567
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16018567

Are her fans all bankrupt now? What happened?

>> No.16018586

>>16018567
>Why aren't collabs getting as many SC as regular streams
How new?

>> No.16018589
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16018589

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>37,500: Towa (Hololive)
>26,854: Gura (Hololive)
>18,391: Amelia (Hololive)
>16,075: Ina (Hololive)
>14,984: Calli (Hololive)
>14,583: Suisei (Hololive)
>14,242: Oliver (Nijisanji)
>13,037: Marine (Hololive)
>11,749: Amelia (Hololive)
>11,298: Suisei (Hololive)
>10,679: IRyS (Hololive)

Honorable mentions to the following waiting rooms:
>12460: Subaru (Hololive)
>10340: Pekora (Hololive)
>10064: Aqua (Hololive)

* Notice that these latest tallies are just an historical recollections of what happened because it has ZERO relation to the actual live viewership of the streams of the day. They're not the least comparable to whatever was being done in 2021

>> No.16018602

>>16018151
they're intentionally breaking their site and this will continue until people are frustrated enough at Youtube.
Then a new platform will appear and you will see NND --> Youtube 2.0
Every site seems "unkillable" at first but what WoW has proved is that every "unkillable" thing can still kill itself.
Just like Epstein kek

>> No.16018604

>>16018329
It's already too big to ignore, but if their entire validation system is fucked across the board, there might be no way to fix it.

>> No.16018624

In today's "small EN corpos are still a trashfire" news the Finana ripoff from Prism is graduating less than two months after she debuted

>> No.16018663

>>16018589
> even with the cull there's 10 holos with 10k+
Holos are fighting against the very universe itself

>> No.16018684

>>16018472
This is exactly why I'm asking about the sweet spot for VOD view processing.
Assuming that at bare minimum viewtime is 10 min/view.

>> No.16018717
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16018717

With Youtube algo having determined this stream doesn't have enough social credits to reach 1k, this will be the lowest stream on Mado's record for Ex Albio.

>> No.16018729

>>16018589
EN Strong

>> No.16018740

>>16018684
8 hours after stream ends i would say is a fair point
very few are still processing at that point unless its a 6h+ stream

>> No.16018847

>>16018589
This has to be the first time EN has more people in the tally than JP.

>> No.16018849

>>16018740
I was going to say that after 12 hours, only 50% of the increase should be counted as a processing increase, but 8 hours sounds pretty good too

>> No.16018912

>>16018604
There is no way youtube doesn't have versioning and artifact archives. They must have a process to roll things back. My biggest worry is that the accounts that have been flagged will never be unflagged making the CCV still unreliable.
>>16018624
She's like 16 right? Small corpo vtubers tend to be very young(18-22) from what I've seen.

>> No.16018944
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16018944

Food for thought

>> No.16018964

>>16018589
>twice culled
>still powerful
EN..I kneel

>> No.16018975
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16018975

>> No.16019025

>>16018944
Yeah, Toya got robbed of easy 30k in his last tso streams

>> No.16019126

>>16018944
To be fair the first three are buffs but I would think he would get 20k on an end/start of the year stream

>> No.16019232

>>16018624
Is that the one that was getting shilled on this board?

>> No.16019258

>>16018912
>biggest worry
of course it cannot be reversed, not because of some technical incapability but because your flagged account is now as good as a bot's account. as in, YT does not have any logical method to distinct thousands of real, falsely flagged, accounts from thousands of actual bots accounts.
Just like the 250k+ culled subs from council and HoloX that had never been returned.
Anyone who believes or hopes that YT numbers will ever return to 2021/2020 levels are fooling themselves.

>> No.16019336

>>16018944
We are all in this together Toya-kun.

>> No.16019524

>>16012802
Hal already gave one where he was hit for over 50%

>> No.16019788

Kagami of Nijisanji is infected. His late night bloodborne streams are half of what they were before this nonsense became obvious.

>> No.16019870
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16019870

Jesus fucking christ her Zatsudan VOD from ONE WEEK LATER has more views than the fucking song.
Did she not shill it even a little bit? It can't really be that worse compared to all the regular holo idol songs...

>> No.16019921

>>16019870
Choco isn't particularly known for her good singing, anon. Cut her some slack.

>> No.16019947

>>16018624
If I recall correctly, isn’t Prism project run by some rich Chinese dude because he wants to larp as an idol manager?

>> No.16020095

Someone said Fuwa doesn’t seem affected, but I feel like it’s a little suspicious the views at the end of these two streams of the same game are around the same number (in fact the latest stream has slightly more) despite the latest one having a -2k decrease in ccv just a day later. Or is that normal

https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1479146940390862848
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1479509525757837321

>> No.16020162

>>16019921
Dude this is a TWO PERSON COLLAB.
Sure their presence is somewhat weak compared to the other holos, but not THIS weak.
Just ONE of the members alone was able to get more viewers for her REGULAR ZATSUDAN.
ONE WEEK LATER!
That means not even Choco's regulars + Mel's regulars watched the song enough times.
That shit doesn't happen unless you literally just upload the song without mentioning it on twitter or on stream, or Youtube fuckery.

I don't think this is about singing ability either.
The song itself is cookie cutter, but that hasn't stopped other holo songs e.g. every Watame original
The singer's ability is also not much of a factor e.g. Ame's original

>> No.16020171

>>16020095
30 minutes longer, but perhaps the cull has started. We'll know for sure the next few times he streams.

>> No.16020211

>>16018586
Is just a chumbud
The tournament brought a lot of chumbud tourist here.

>> No.16020319

>>16020095
He's probably infected but it's taking a while. NijiJP males have proven they're not immune.

>> No.16020493

>members post likes is fucked up
Is this a new thing? It was fine a week ago

>> No.16020523

>>16020493
Apparently it is.
Pajeets fucking up the website even more.

>> No.16020527

>>16020493
Community post likes started fucking up sometime in the last 18 hours or so.

>> No.16020569

>>16020523
>>16020527
What the fuck is even happening at youtube? They're going to fuck up the likes too? What for?

>> No.16020570 [DELETED] 

https://mobile.twitter.com/PRISMproj/status/1479513700373438464

I remembered this girl debuting just a few weeks ago. Did she graduate because of the low numbers or is she gonna apply for Holo/Niji?

>> No.16020640

https://mobile.twitter.com/PRISMproj/status/1479513700373438464

She debuted in November, graduating in two weeks from now. She saw the numbers and gave up or probably planning to join Holo/Niji. Too bad her porn was actually better than Finana.

>> No.16020703

Gentlemen, I come from the future with a message.

Shit’s still fucked yo.

>> No.16020962

>>16019947
kinda based

>> No.16020969
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16020969

> anon has to formulate bait to get an answer

>> No.16020988

>>16020640
Apparently she’s underaged if that split thread is anything to go by.
So that’s a no from Holo or Niji.

>> No.16021075

Do we have a record of who were the first ones to get affected by this? Which waiting rooms look the most fucked after Christmas?

>> No.16021088

>>16020493
>members post likes is fucked up
can you catch me up whats fucked now?

>> No.16021149

>>16021088
30 likes to 2000 comments ratio

>> No.16021153

>>16021088
seems that the likes have been fucking nuked for community posts in general
I've seen screenshots of ame at 55 likes and 200 comments
haachama at 30 likes and 200 comments
gura at 200 likes with the top comment being 450 likes or so.

>> No.16021170
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16021170

gacha shill and barely gets dislikes. kneel to the power of sponsorship of gura

>> No.16021172

I just checked. Videos still play when I press play.

>> No.16021199

>>16021088
See >>16013160

>> No.16021222

>>16021088
>>16003920
>28 likes, 955 comments

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16021248

>>16021149
>>16021153
thanks anons... man i dunno what they are doing with their site but it sure as fuck is depressing to see. honestly half the shit wouldn't be as painfull if youtube actualy would announce stuff proper. "we are going to try implementing a AI that will hunt bots for us please give us feedback on how that goes" that would make the whole debacle so much less of a pain in the ass

>> No.16021287
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16021287

>>16021248
This entire site is broken. Screenshotted previous two member posts for like to comment ratio should look like

>> No.16021404

he anons, I'd appreciate it if someone could spoonfeed me the total amount of hours streamed by holos till the 31st of December 2021

>> No.16021537

>>16021404
Twitter @Holo_Data

>> No.16021941
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16021941

All evidence points towards Miko being patient zero. She has had messed up waiting rooms since the 26th, which is earlier than anyone else. It started spreading to other people on the 28th only

>> No.16022038

>Pia arena MM
>Capacity 12k people
Isn't that too much?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1479363441798356997

>> No.16022083

>>16022038
It'll probably be at covid 'capacity', so more like 6k.

>> No.16022112

>>16021941
So what is even the source

>> No.16022116

>>16022083
I'm not sure if they can fill even 3k

>> No.16022152

>>16022116
They absolutely can, are you crazy?

>> No.16022185
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16022185

>Sorry mate, you only have enough YouTube social credits for 5k CCV

>> No.16022216
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16022216

>>16022185
Meanwhile Mysta…

>> No.16022232

>>16022185
Can you guys explain to me why you think there’s some sort of cap for some? Or are you joking I’m autistic I can’t tell

>> No.16022250
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16022250

>100% participation in polls within 5 minutes is normal
t. /#/

>> No.16022260
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16022260

>>16022232
This right here has happened to several streamers

>> No.16022285

>>16022152
Are you saying Susan would lie about her numbers? They certainly can't!

>> No.16022383

>>16022260
I don’t know I feel like I’ve seen that before this all

>> No.16022393

>>16020969
just beautiful

>> No.16022398

>>16022112
Some people speculate that it was because she was the last on the singing relay, which caused a flood of people hopping from other channels to go to hers and get mass flagged as bots. These 'bots' in turn started spreading and contaminating everyone else.

>> No.16022454

>>16022250
youtube fucking with lawyers, thats bold

>> No.16022475

>>16022232
There's no hard evidence for it but it keeps happening time and time again that a rising stream suddenly grinds to a complete halt just before an x-thousand milestone, and when it does manage to break through that mark there's immediately a sudden sharp drop like seen twice in that Vox graph

>> No.16022495

>Junichi Kato
>Virtual youtuber's CCV reduced by 1/3? I saw that on the internet news. I thought it couldn't possibly be true
>"Youtube made a statement. They're just deleting spam"
>Tell them it doesn't matter because I'm not bugged
>"You're buggy too!"
>Are they making me one of them? Oh, so my CCV supposed to be higher than that?
>Yeah, I'm buggy. 500,000 people watch my streaming every day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZsfd8uU3yI

Bros...Jun makes fun of our community...

>> No.16022525

>>16022495
jun's a faggot who cares

>> No.16022613

>>16022495
You should ask /pol/ and /v/ what they think about trannies and see what they say.

>> No.16022619

>>16022112
the voices inside the head of some anons. this theory makes no sense, things like stream relay and emote spam are not something new

>> No.16022670

>>16022613
Jun hates Vegans but respects LGBT community actually

>> No.16022810

>>16022670
sounds like the safe way to portray yourself

>> No.16022999

>>16022475
I remember there were some totsus where the line barely twitched despide a "buff" character like Marine appearing.

>> No.16023054

>>16022619
I thought the rat was that Youtube recently implemented some sort of update to cull more spam and it went awry and those patterns triggered it into targeting normal users… or something

>> No.16023070

>>16022495
he's always like this, he's a massive cunt

>> No.16023119

>>16022250
49 mins and 10k votes? Did it actually take that long to accumulate that amount. Wow

>> No.16023236

>>16023054
that's seems most likely - it's the spreading infection stuff that's bs

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