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16017647 No.16017647 [Reply] [Original]

I'm really disappointed in Gura and Kronii for not streaming their point of view on the finals. It made the whole thing so much more soulless. And imagine if they had somehow won the tournament while they weren't even streaming it. That would have been such a huge anti-climax. It's like the EN WANTS to be treated as a side-branch.

>> No.16018261

Streaming is distracting as fuck and debuffs your performance. Multiple streamers have stated this is their reason for not streaming their POV (even Ina, who doesn't exactly interact with chat a lot, thought this).

>> No.16018337

>>16017647
Still crying about this, huh?

>> No.16018349

>>16018261
>Streaming is distracting as fuck and debuffs your performance
Gura having a better performance is worthless if we aren't there to cheer her on. This is a streaming competition.
Again, imagine if this buff of her not being distracted meant she won when she wasn't even streaming. I can't believe people are imagining that scenario and not going "That would have been a disaster"

Should everyone just do that? Maybe not stream anything and we can just find out who the winners are when they tweet them out later? Fucking hell.

>> No.16018388

>>16018337
The more I think about it, the more justified I am in being mad about it. It should be brought up literally every time a EN + JP collab is asked for.

>> No.16018404

>>16018349
Its amazing you are still being a piss baby about this. Let it go, jesus christ.

>> No.16018434

>>16018404
What's amazing is that there was no blowback whatsoever other than a few anonymous people, so these idiots just have free reign to do it again with no consequences.

>> No.16018458

>>16018434
Because most people probably have lives and arent obsessing over something so inconsequential.

>> No.16018489

>>16018404
>SHUT IT DOWN
Any actual arguments, or...?

>> No.16018498

Still seething after you lost to a shark, I see.

>> No.16018502

>>16018261
They are streamers, it's their job to stream.
Choosing to win a children's game over it is completely retarded

>> No.16018510

>>16018489
Nope, sorry, statute of limitations, so it's ok

>> No.16018529

>>16018349
Yes I don't know where this massive tryharding came from, even the ones who wouldn't stand a chance in a million years like Kiara practiced excessively for it and did the no- stream tryharding, when normally she doesn't care about being the worst gamer.

I'm suspecting that management told them to tryhard to make it "interesting" or whatever.

>> No.16018541

>>16018404
you don't understand, an autistic girl pretending to be an anime shark did well in a videogame tournament and that makes me really upset.

>> No.16018566

>>16018498
It's funny, because when Gura just barely beat Pekora, I was excited and thought it was a great moment.

In hindsight, it just meant that Pekora was eliminated from the tournament and nothing else. Gura might as well have been a non-entity. Instead of it being one being over the other like it's supposed to be in a tournament, it just meant less content.

So, yes, I am absolutely mad now that Gura eliminated Pekora. You're not wrong about that.

>> No.16018603

>>16018541
If my position is so wrong and retarded and unreasonable and neurotic, why do you need to strawman it?
Gura doing well isn't the problem. Her not streaming it in a streaming competition is.

>> No.16018615

>>16018566
good, please continue being mad and posting about it. It means more content for us

>> No.16018644

>>16018615
Makes sense. Someone other than Gura has to provide it, apparently.

>> No.16018664

>>16018603
I forgot to add that I am trans

>> No.16018811

>>16018261
>Multiple streamers have stated this is their reason for not streaming their POV
Aren't they embarrassed at taking the easy route and making their colleges who're actually willing to stream in the streaming tournament pick up the slack?

>> No.16018875

>>16018811
Nobody forced JPs to stream and debuff themselves

>> No.16018895

>>16018875
>Nobody forced JPs to stream
Do you seriously think Management would have been fine with nobody streaming their POV?

>> No.16018953

Gura slept through the tournament so someone else just played for her.

>> No.16018996

>>16017647
I want to kronii kronii's kroniis

>> No.16019007

>>16018953
yeah, I tried my best but I'm kinda rusty. I should've spent more time practicing instead of having so much sex with Gura

>> No.16019006

>>16018529
>>16017647
This honestly sounds plausible. Virtually no ENs streamed their POVs at all, when they all did plenty of times before. One of few who did was fucking Mori, who has a different manager and does what she wants anyways. Maybe Omegay told em all to focus on winning to not end up as embarrassments, but that resulted in almost no EN streams and no wins anyways.

>> No.16019010

>>16018895
Who knows, Towa probably would have damage controlled with taking an announcer role or begging at least one person per group to stream.

It's a flaw in the whole setup to let people not stream.You may call it selfish and cringe to not stream for the sake of peformance boosts, but it's also the proper winning mindset (doing whatever it takes).

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Your seething doesn't matter at all

>> No.16019029
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It's very, very, very easy to whiteknight your oshi after it's all said and done. To "look at the positives" in hindsight.

This is what Gura fans actually felt like when they realized they weren't getting her PoV. This is what they were unable to hide at the time.

Fuck Gura and Kronii for this. Any collab like this needs rules against this shit from now on.

>> No.16019089

> Gura, Kronii, Ame, Kiara, Sana, Fauna, Mumei
Hololive fans will always remember this, if they are lazy to stream in big events, what's the point of them participating. are they ashamed to be seen playing badly in front of the fans? fans will always support no matter how bad their gameplay. look at calli and choco sensei, they don't care if they play badly, the most important thing is to entertain the fans. isn't that a streamer's job? entertain the audience?

>> No.16019141

>>16019089
I don't even care that much about the non-finals stuff (Though, in hindsight, Mumei not streaming the Zako should have rung my alarm bells) but the way it played out is fucking embarrassing.

>> No.16019168

>>16017647
I hope cover makes finalists stream next year, because if its such a disadvantage to stream, like clock and cumbuds are saying then is not fair for the other girls who are doing it, inb4 "it was their choice", pretending for even a second that it would be fine having none stream the finals, its something only a retarded simp redditor would think.

>> No.16019177

>>16019029
Yes-Manning happens for all the girls, and I even suspect people don't do it because they ACTUALLY think there's nothing wrong with it but rather it's to damage control the "optics" and not let shitposters have something to latch onto.
So basically, they know they're wrong and acting disingenuous.

The same thing happened with the Mori fiasco yesterday, deadbeats themselves were seething about it until the rest of the board flooded their thread with shitposts at which point they went full damage control coping and whiteknighting.

>> No.16019180

I expected this kind of shit from Kronii, but not from Gura.

Starting to think that it's not just Council that is lazy but all of EN nowadays.

>> No.16019191

>>16019007
i made this post. me. not (you) or (you).

>> No.16019196

>>16019006
The result was bad so this is all on the talents for not practicing INAFF.
t. Osmegma

>> No.16019222

You have to be absolutely retarded if you thought that Gura was going to steam again after her first stream. She was barely awake.

>> No.16019227

>>16019177
>The same thing happened with the Mori fiasco yesterday
i'm still trying to catch up after being swamped with work the last 2 days, what was that?

>> No.16019234

>>16019177
>but rather it's to damage control the "optics" and not let shitposters have something to latch onto
Hate that mentality, though. Let the shitposters latch onto something if it's actually true. Yes, they aren't doing it genuinely and they will always shitpost no matter what good or bad she does, but trying to deny reality and pretending everything is fine when it very much isn't is just cutting your nose to spite your face.

>> No.16019271

>>16019222
Well, couldn't she just streamed her POV without talking?
It would still be better than having no POV at all.

>> No.16019285
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>comes out of nowhere
>streams POV
>high energy and emotional throughout
>gets 5th
get a better oshi

>> No.16019304

>>16019285
I don't know Japanese. And no, I'm not learning. Guess I have to wait for an EN that isn't a lazy bitch.

>> No.16019311

>>16019222
So? People show up to work barely awake all the time but still do what is expected of them.

>> No.16019349

>>16019227
She forgot to call in to Ame's birthday AGAIN, or rather she overslept (again).
At the very last minute of her karaoke (post-birthday stream) she called in and apologized for oversleeping. Deadbraps claimed this vindicated her, everyone else still considers her a cunt.

>> No.16019364

>N-no if you stream your POV you lose 50% of your racing power. It doesnt even matter if you hide the chat!
Stop making excuses you faggots.

>> No.16019367

>>16017647
write your complaint then send it to holoEN management email, it's much more impactful than wasting time here. I agree that management should make rules that members have to stream if they take part in a big event

>> No.16019401

>>16019364
Not to mention that if that excuse were true, then it'd essentially mean Gura was cheating lol

But let's be real, she wasn't cheating, she just didn't give a shit. And that hurts even more.

>> No.16019441

>>16019271
why? so shitposters and antis can say she's a "bitch" and "hates streaming!!!" "hates holojp mems!!" etc? damned if she does damned if she doesn't.

>> No.16019443

>>16019029
Guarantee a least one of the people in that screenshot is now making posts like >>16019013

>> No.16019471

I think you all sound like a bunch of little bitches, but I kinda agree. I mean, to hear English during that giant event's finale at all, I had to watch fucking REINE. And sure, her mushroom meltdown was incredibly entertaining, but I'm pretty fucking tired of the most widely-spoken (not most-spoken, there's a fucking difference) language in the world being treated as not even a silver medal by Hololive as a whole.

>> No.16019476

>>16019441
You're such a dishonest retard. Yes, shitposters would still have shat on her for anything. Who gives a shit?

Again, look at >>16019029

Actual Gura fans were disappointed. It's ok, there's no need to hide it. How about she does the option that would please her fanbase much more than straight up nothing?

>> No.16019483

hey op, you could always just not watch at all! then you wont get so upset over the actions of virtual anime girls.

>> No.16019486

>>16019401
Multiple people have said this was their reason for not streaming. Even Reine, who did end up streaming, said that she was considering not streaming because you can't focus on the game when doing it.

Theoretically it's possible Gura had some special snowflake reason for not streaming, but the much more likely, non-schizo, explanation is that she didn't stream for the same reason nobody else in EN streamed.

>> No.16019491

>>16019443
nope, all those comments in that screenshot are actually me.

>> No.16019567

>>16019471
thats the general attitude of Japan. they dont give a fuck about your language, culture, or timezone. they've always been this way it it probably will never change since they are just asses like that.

>> No.16019582

>>16019271
At that point she might just as well have streamed normally.

She was tired as fuck and nervous as shit. It's very likely that she just simply couldn't do it.

>>16019311
Touch grass if you honestly compare a normal job to the job of an entertainer. An entertainer that has to focus on something stressful while doing her job at that.

>> No.16019587

>>16019486
Ok, fine, then just force them to stream if they make it to the finals. Can't believe that was actually a widespread mentality. And I can't believe there are fans that care about their oshi winning if they can't even see her doing it.

>> No.16019626

>>16019582
>Touch grass if you honestly compare a normal job to the job of an entertainer
The entertainer has less excuses for being a lazy sack of shit. She had one fucking job.

>> No.16019656

>>16019567
I just don't understand how the indog SEAmonkeys genuinely get more love from Cover than the language spoken by the widest portion of the world. Business-wise, it makes no fucking sense. HoloEN should have become a thing basically immediately after Hololive was noticed overseas, if not sooner. Definitely before the fucking chinks and indogs got it. And the former of those two sure bit them in the ass, huh?

>> No.16019697

>>16019656
I don't understand you blaming Cover or ID when Reine was the one that streamed and neither Gura or Kronii could be arsed to do it.

Maybe this is a sign and the reason why EN doesn't get much attention is because the EN talent doesn't give a shit. I hope that's not the case, but if today was an indication of anything, it was that.

>> No.16019709

this tumblr thread is hilarious

>> No.16019713

>>16019476
I was very disappointed. I REALLY wanted to hear and see her especially if she won or placed high. But in the end I'm happier she placed well and was not as stressed streaming and racing with nearly 2 days of no sleep. Because she is my oshi and I actually care about her and her heath, unlike you who treats streamers as dancing monkeys.

>> No.16019749

>>16019626
>She had one fucking job

And she was not in the condition to do it. Hence she did not do it. How hard is that to understand? Entertainers have standards.

>> No.16019776

>>16019697
I think it's time to drop HoloEN and just focus on the JPs, both watching and posting about them.

>> No.16019793

>>16019776
I would if I could speak Japanese.

>> No.16019811

>>16019656
Japanese Business is very ass backwards compared to the rest of the world. very few decisions made by them would make sense in another countries then Japan. as for why they cater more to other Asian countries vs the west, I don't know, I guess they feel more comfortable with other Asians?

>> No.16019822
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Greynames sure are getting uppity again

>> No.16019844

>>16019822
Were these guys greynames too? >>16019029

>> No.16019884

>>16019006
Why are you so quick to blame management when it was most likely the girls themselves?

>> No.16019933

Is this the free (you) thread?

>> No.16019937

this is going to be the new amogus collab innit?

>> No.16019941
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>>16019844
The greynames are (you). Members know their oshi and understand her circumstances.

>> No.16019943

Reine POV live Viewers increased to 5k because EOP from EN fans want to see their oshi but don't know who else to watch in the final round, at least Reine got the spotlight today

>> No.16019950

Disappointing? Yes.
Understandable? Also yes.

Well, for Gura atleast. Don't know about Kronii.

>> No.16019974

>>16018349
I will say, Groomba IS a special kind of autistic that probabky does benefit from the cheers/abuse of others. A litteral shounen protagonist.

>> No.16019981

>>16019933
yes. get in while the gettin's good.
Pekora is a CUNT she disconnected FIRST before anyone else and is VERY SALTY.
that tweet? manager. she absolutely cried for an hour then had angry sex. (with me her bf)

>> No.16020002

>>16017647
A Tako made this post to distract everyone from Ina sandbaging

>> No.16020026

>>16019981
Can't believe Mio disconnected her router so she had an excuse to dominate the zako cup. Stupid bitch should graduate for making the others feel bad.

>> No.16020046

>>16020002
fuck that mori obviously threw it in qualifiers then got sweaty for the loser cup so she could be queen of the losers. not to mention >>16020026
fucking whores.

>> No.16020083

fuck the op. this thread is now a RRAT thread.
give me your fattest rrats. whats your 2022 MK Cup conspiracy anon??

>> No.16020087

>>16019933
>>16019981
>>16020026
>>16020046
Very cool. Thanks for shielding Gura from criticism.

>> No.16020103

>>16019943
Can confirm, wanted to watch shark, watched turkey instead. Reine is pretty great though, so no tears.

>> No.16020130

>>16020083
Ina lost the heart to go full sweat because she only wanted to dominate Ayame

>> No.16020134

>Shut it down

>> No.16020161

>>16020087
awwww are your sad? are you upset that sharkywharky didnt streamy weemy? what are you gonna do about it? dislike her videos? unsub and unmember? maybe piss, shit and cum your pants and cry yourself to sleep for mommy to find you and give you a blanky wanky??

>> No.16020193

>>16020087
maybe you should start another thread. Don't bother mentioning Kronii though, it's a waste of time

>> No.16020200

>>16017647
Streaming is the reason IRyS didnt make the finals. She kept babbling and trying to fill awkward silences, and became upset when she did something wrong cause she knew people were watching.

>> No.16020222

>>16020161
Falseflag. Chumbuds aren't like this.

>> No.16020254

>>16020222
correct
>>16020161
teammate hands wrote this

>> No.16020265

>>16020200
Gura made it to the finals while streaming

>> No.16020289

Imagine being such an autistic schizo that you think that these cartoon girls owe you anything. Instead of taking a second to think of why she might not have streamed, you can't get over your selfish belief that you should always get everything you want. A day later when a normal person would have gone on with their lives, you are still on here pissing and shidding about it. It's fucking pathetic. We aren't on here defending Gura/Kronii, we're shitting on you for being such a fucking loser who has completely lost grip of reality.

>> No.16020387

third worlders opinions don't matter. the end.

>> No.16020427

I’m just happy she made it to the finals stream or no stream.

>> No.16020436

>>16020289
this, whenever I feel upset about my oshi not streaming I ask myself
>Should really care so much about some bitch behind an anime avatar?
and I move on

>> No.16020446

>>16020265
Gura was significantly better than IRyS and stayed silent for most of the race. IRyS couldn’t shut up for ten seconds trying to be entertaining.

>> No.16020483

>>16020289
>Stop being so entitled
Only EN is like this

>> No.16020520

Pekora should have won if Gura was just not gonna stream. What a letdown

>> No.16020556

EN is a side branch and you're delusional if you think otherwise.

>> No.16020559

>>16020520
Get fucked nerd

>> No.16020594

>>16020520
Agreed

>> No.16020611

>>16020556
It absolutely is. The question is, WHY? WHY THE FUCK IS THEIR MOST POPULAR BRANCH A SIDE BRANCH. WHY THE FUCK IS THE BRANCH THAT APPEALS TO THE WIDEST AUDIENCE A SIDE BRANCH. WHY ARE THE JAPANESE SO FUCKING STUPID AND WHY DIDN'T WE DROP A THIRD NUKE

>> No.16020624

>they look like ants
>I can smell them
Gura was getting too autistic and yabai to stream. Purease andasutan.

>> No.16020660

>>16020289
>loser who has completely lost grip of reality.
I'm just expecting a streamer to stream, you mongoloid whiteknight, take your meds.

>> No.16020701

>>16020611
Again: Why are you blaming Cover for Gura and Kronii not streaming?

This is the first ever inter-branch fully competitive non-mixed collab they did and this is how Gura and Kronii treated it. Who deserves the nukes here?

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>>16020611
>WHY THE FUCK IS THEIR MOST POPULAR BRANCH A SIDE BRANCH
it's not the most popular branch by any metric

>> No.16020743

>>16020660
No, you are fucking crying about it because your life revolves around cartoon girls playing video games and you couldn't handle what you see as a slight by someone you are WAY too invested in.

>> No.16020757

>>16020701
Because Cover wouldn't let them stream the final. Gura was stealing a ton of views from JPs.

>> No.16020761

>>16020744
Ah yes, it's just the branch that contains by far their most popular and highly-subscribed chuubas. My mistake, I'm clearly the idiot here.

ogeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>> No.16020788

>>16017647
How many threads do we need about Gura not streaming fucking Mario Kart. Optimise your butthurt.

>> No.16020814

>>16020744
Gura and Mori are 1 and 2 in terms of subscriber count. That's a metric.

>> No.16020820

>>16020757
Cope

>> No.16020834

>>16020788
It's the same fucking dude. He was doing this last night too. He fucking got butthurt about it, went to sleep, and woke up still crying about it. It's insane.

>> No.16020839

>>16018261
Just make a disclaimer that you're going to be tryharding and as such completely focus on playing instead of trying to be entertaining and engaging.
Hell, mute yourself if you want to and turn off chat, just let us be there with you.
How the fuck would that be distracting?

>> No.16020843

>>16020814
What about more important metrics like view count and watch hours though?

>> No.16020865

>>16020757
Source? Sounds like you are coping. Occam's razor is that neither wanted to stream, especially when Kronii had not streamed already

>> No.16020874

>>16020839
Or maybe get over the fact you can't always have exactly what you want. You are way too invested in someone who will never know you exist.

>> No.16020908

>>16020843

You said "any metric". Now you're moving the goal posts.

>> No.16020915

>>16020874
>NOO, YOU LITERALLY CANT CRITIQUE HOLOLIVE AT ALL, NOT EVEN IN THE MOST BENIGN AND CALM WAY
I think you're the overinvested one

>> No.16020940

>>16020743
Your life revolves around diffusing any heat on your oshi by bringing up stature of limitations and deflecting any blame away.

I bet you spend more time on /vt/ than I do, so I don't need lessons on investment.

>> No.16020966

>>16020908
>You said "any metric"
No I didnt. You replied to what I assume is a completely unrelated post because you're phoneposting, so I have no idea what you were actually replying to.

>> No.16020976

>>16020874
This is such obvious projection lol

>> No.16020989

>>16018261
And then there's Okayu. Cool as a cucumber, cracking jokes and reading chat.

>> No.16021012

>>16020989
based fatto catto

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>>16020966
Bro, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you retarded? Can you read post chains?

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>YOU ARE OBSESSED!
>NO, YOU ARE OBSESSED!

>> No.16021076

oooohhh nyyyyyyooooo

>> No.16021102

>>16020865
>Source?
It's pretty obvious if you paid attention to the streams. Gura was even confirming on stream that she was ending her stream for the night and sounded like she was talking off camera at the end of Group B.

>> No.16021159

>>16020757
>>16020865
>>16021102
Lex Luther Yagoo strikes again!

>> No.16021163

>>16021102
She said she'd be back

>> No.16021195

>>16020743
>downplaying vtubers in fucking /vt/
>assuming I'm a chumbud
>comes /here/ to defend Gura's fucked up
>clearly seething
I wonder whose life revolves around her lmao.
I was only interested in watching Gura after she made it to the finals and my oshi didn't, once again take your meds.

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>> No.16021242

>>16019656
And yet unsurprisingly all of the EN members have shown that branching out to them was a mistake. There should never have been an EN branch, it suffers from being the most widely-spoken language rather than the most-spoken. A branch is supposed to be localized. Multiple EN members do not speak English as their first language and most of them speak Japanese anyway and all the ones that only speak English (or more accurately the ethnic English spekaers to include Calli) also hate Hololive and would be doing the same thing if they were independent. They bring no value to the company as a whole.

>> No.16021252

>>16017647
not EN as a whole but Council certainly is a side-unit in comparison with Myth they feel like sidekicks that just don't want to commit 100% into it for whatever reason.

>> No.16021278

>>16021242
have you tried not watching them? I constantly forget ID is even there

>> No.16021294

>>16017647
They were ordered by trannymega to not stream if they got in the finals so that "views get spread around" to the other branches because of the current youtube ccv situation.
Gura was the worst case scenario as every EOP awake would've watched hers and only hers, or so trannymega thought.

>> No.16021303

>>16021242
>bring no value to the company
>shitload of money in sc and merch sales
ok lol

>> No.16021317

>>16021294
good rrat imo desu senpai

>> No.16021338

>>16021303
You could do that same shit through contracts, keep them separate as individuals like they did with vsingers that were under a side company. There's no actual defensible reason to keep them as part of Hololive itself, they just drag others down.

>> No.16021361

>>16021252
Except apparently it's EN as a whole. No one gave a shit about this stream. The Council thing has turned out to be a cope. None of EN cares. Except maybe IRyS.

>> No.16021373

>>16021294
Which was exactly what was happening during Group B. Gura had 30k+

>> No.16021397

>>16021317
I'm surprised it didn't come instantly to mind for anyone watching.

>> No.16021403

>>16021163
>She said she'd be back
To race.

>> No.16021432

>>16021278
It would be easier to not watch them if they weren't constantly given hand-outs by their JP senpais only for them to then spit in JP's face. ID did the responsible thing by the fact its members who weren't going to enjoy the tournament at all never even signed up. Choco wouldn't have been the biggest loser if they participated.

>> No.16021471

>>16021373
I wonder what was her real count. I remember peko having <10k wich is ridiculous for her

>> No.16021500

>>16018261
What the fuck is the point of tournament if they aren't gonna stream. My head fucking hurts

>> No.16021515
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>>16021432
kek

>> No.16021519

>>16018261
>tryharding in a game made for literal 5 year olds

>> No.16021551

>>16021471
Double the shown number at the very least.
More like triple or quadruple if you want to err on the side of generosity, which is probably what it really is if not for youtube's bullshit.

>> No.16021605

>>16021500
It makes no sense

>> No.16021657

Isn't Kronii much worse than Gura? Gura already did two streams that day, but Kronii didn't stream at all.

>> No.16021700

>>16018261
>Streaming is distracting as fuck and debuffs your performance.
What the fuck kind of denial are you on to believe this? We're you born yesterday or are you seriously telling everyone here to ignore every single streamer that does a competitive event?

>> No.16021703

>>16021657
People actually had faith in Gura. Misplaced faith.

>> No.16021706

>>16021551
are bronies still using this cope?

>> No.16021709

>>16021657
People expected it from Kronii. She basically doesn't exist outside of fan art.

>> No.16021787

>>16019811
It's because they have a feeling of superiority when the majority of Asia is still 3rd world as opposed to the west.

>> No.16021810

send your complaint to omega twitter or official holoEN, it's more impactful than wasting time here. I agree with reasonable complaints, participating in big events but not wanting to stream is unacceptable

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If only she streamed she probably wouldnt have gotten blue shelled that one race.

>> No.16021848

>>16019749
>And she was not in the condition to do it.
Then why even participate at all?

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When will chumbustas learn that they’re nothing but a number to Gura? She doesn’t even keep you guys updated on her social media! l m a o find a new oshi or stop complaining

>> No.16021962

why are teamates like this

>> No.16021993

>>16018261
So they both had an unfair advantage over the JP and ID girls?

>> No.16021995

probably because they had people who were good at the game playing for them

>> No.16022015

>>16017647
>EN to be treated as a side-branch
all the insanely petty schizoposting aside, this is literally what they are though. they have always been, and will continue to be, a side-branch. a big one for sure, but still

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>>16018261
Streamers, including Hololive, have gotten used to streaming themselves for big events during irregular hours. And it's not like it was a late night marathon stream. Why are you making an excuse something that would've not even been half an hour long and something they had weeks to schedule?

>> No.16022247

It was pretty shitty essentially not having an EN finals POV but at least Gura performed well at finals and streamed her initial group.

Kronii? People here claim that they expected as much but not streaming POV, no voice chat and placed second to last during final resulting in a garbage performance. She might as well not had been there too bad about Mio disconnected and others couldn't rank better. Just one of the reasons I don't give a shit about Council.

>> No.16022249

>>16022015
>a big one for sure
A bigger one than JP.

>> No.16022289

>>16019811
I mean the only non-Asians who recognized them as equal to humans were wiped out after WWII. Better to associate with other Asians who view them as the historical superior to be undermined I guess. It's a lose/lose for them either way so better the enemy you know.

>> No.16022295

>>16020834
Looking at this thread it's more likely this kept him up all night lmao

>> No.16022337

It did suck a bit not gonna lie. I was forced to watch an indog for the finals just to have a stream in English.

>> No.16022376

> Calli, Ina, Bae and Irys
today we realize who cares the most about their fans, fans just want to see and support their oshi, it doesn't matter even if their oshi play badly and lose

>> No.16022389

>>16022337
Thank you for the honesty, mate. Sick of being gaslighted about this.

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>>16021927
I'm gonna come clean here. Gura needed to blow off some steam after the Group B run, so we made love and she fell asleep afterwards. It was hard getting her up when the Finals were approaching. She didn't have the time to get her stream up, but she was able to get on the switch and into the room to race. Proud of her. Sorry, chumbuds for the lack of a POV though.

>> No.16022553

>>16022249
number of subscribers or whatever your metric is irrelevant when one is established in all senses and the other one can function without the same upkeep (money, time, personnel, space and equipment).

that's the definition of a side-branch

>> No.16022566

>>16022249
Maybe in the past when only Myth existed, Council brings them below the level of JP

>> No.16022605

>>16022337
This. I would have been happier watching ANY of EN. I don't hate the ID, but I genuinely don't give a shit about them.

>> No.16022694

>>16017647
It's called being a team player. Gura is the top in subs in Myth and Kronii is the top subbed in Council. By participating but not streaming, they allowed for the viewership to go to their genmates instead. If you'd notice, JP does this from time to time as well with some group collabs of four or five people.

>> No.16022731

>>16017647
i wasn't expecting kronii to stream the finals since she didn't stream the prelims and wasn't expecting to make it the finals but it hurt so much when gura said 'see you guys later' after getting 3rd and stream after staying up for hours after.

>> No.16022944

>>16022694
>By participating but not streaming, they allowed for the viewership to go to their genmates instead
This post is retarded and doesn't make any sense. Gura and Kronii were the only EN members to make it to the finals. All the other participating EN members either lost early or participated in the Zako cup before the finals. There was absolutely no possible interference in viewership.

>> No.16023086

Gura getting fourth place in champion cup feels empty to me, because I can't see her reaction

>> No.16023160

>>16022944
Sorry. I was just giving the logic of the move. I haven't watched any of their Mario Kart streams.

>> No.16023461

>>16020843
For this tournament Gura and Mori only lost to Towa

Peak CCV / Unique chatters

Towa 37,680 / 11,865
Gura 26,732 / 5,433
Mori 14,919 / 4,202
Suisei 14,583 / 4,100
Ina 16,075 / 3,804
IRyS 10,601 / 3,416
Marine 13,008 / 2,830
Chloe 3,300 / 2,794
Laplus 4,628 / 2,701
Watame 5,026 / 2,591
Ayame 4,386 / 2,478
Iroha 4,168 / 2,458
Nene 1,749 / 2,394
Baelz 8,420 / 2,393
Aqua 9,272 / 2,254
Miko 6,093 / 2,220
Pekora 9,963 / 2,158
Lui 2,132 / 1,926
Polka 2,223 / 1,922
Kanata 3,945 / 1,853
Fubuki 4,914 / 1,836
Mio 2,071 / 1,775
Reine 4,418 / 1,758
Luna 1,707 / 1,543
Koyori 3,196 / 1,512
Mel 1,247 / 1,495
Lamy 1,867 / 1,366
Noel 2,543 / 1360
Okayu 7,808 / 1,326
Subaru 5,692 / 1,281
Ollie 1,892 / 1,173
Choco 1,752 / 1,095
Matsuri 1,709 / 1,086
Flare 2,174 / 1,079
Aki 663 / 966
Roboco 1,001 / 593

>> No.16023481

Despite people bashing Mori for playing like that she actually streamed her POV for both zako and prelims and as a result she made A-Chan and especially Towa laugh with her cursing and celebration over her low placement. Laplus played terrible but her commentary was funny and getting emotional over Chloe making it to finals made it sweet. It's stuff like that what makes streaming your POV worth it no matter the placement.

On this year the prematch JP bantz were sacrificed on favor of having EOPs participating where half of the branch can't even bother to set their POV and even try to interact with their senpai.

>> No.16024296

>>16023086
Yep

>> No.16025150

>>16018404
This is why normie ruin everything, they don't care. Which is fine, they're right it doesn't matter, it's healthy to be detached and not care.
But the first guy is obviously correct, the whole fucking point is to stream, the races don't matter other than the entertainment value they provide, they wouldn't have the tournament at all if it wasn't to be streamed.
He's right to feel that Kronii and Gura need to be reminded of that, but obviously it's not a socially well adjusted thing to do, but it's the best thing for the hobby.
It's the same for all the unicorn shit. Normies come in, don't care, encourage the culture to degrade, then leave when bored

>> No.16025515

>>16019822
>>16019941
Retard

>> No.16025687

>>16025150
It’s meant to be streamed, but not from all POVs. We didn’t have that at the sportfes either, just dedicated camerawomen.

>> No.16025777

>>16025687
Everyone in the finals streamed but those two

>> No.16025810

>>16017647
Meh, realizing that Gura was not going to stream, I turned to Suisei while watching Towa

>> No.16025883

>>16023086
Gura will talk about it next stream, you clingy fuck

>> No.16025892

>>16025810
Must be nice to know Japanese

>> No.16025911

>>16025687
The sportfest was a team event, not an individual event. Having multiple views per team would be multiple views of the same thing, in an individual event everyone is seeing something different and their accomplishments and failures are unique to them.

>> No.16025962

>>16018349
I was cheering on Gura while watching Suisei and Towa.

>> No.16025972

>>16025687
>>16025911
Also, everyone was in voice chat for sportsfest because it was a team thing so their presence was always felt even when they weren't onscreen.

>> No.16026041

>>16025892
I don't. Maybe pick out a word or two here and there. But that is just about it.

>> No.16026058

>>16025883
Soulless bullshit
People wanted to listen to her reaction in real time

For as much as people are making fun of Suisei, that kind of shit is exactly what we wanted out of the tournament. Real emotion and real time reactions.

>> No.16026219

>>16020874
>You are way too invested in someone who will never know you exist.

You're the one who's way too deep in the parasocial relationship dude.

I want to see good content, but you want your imaginary girlfriend to be happy.

>> No.16026313

>>16021657
The difference is that nobody cares about council.

>> No.16026597

>>16017647
Gura, the top talent, does not have to accomodate Hololive. Hololive needs to accomodate Gura. She does not need Hololive to succeed, and can do fine without it. She could bankrupt it with a few words on stream on how they mistreat her.

If you wanted Gura to stream it, then it should've been scheduled to a reasonable time for Gura, not in the middle of the night when she's tired and just wants to sleep.

>> No.16026713

>>16025150
>hating normie shits
>also implying he's an oldfag
>but he caring enough to watch gura streams, dude trust me i'm a chumbud!
>admitting being an unicorn faggot on top

rare sight of a dramanigger showing their true colors, beautiful.

>> No.16027041

>>16026597
Wow... Chumbuds... This you?

>> No.16027122

>>16026219
based
let em know

>> No.16027161

>>16027041
Another falseflag

>> No.16027313

>>16026219
This

>> No.16027766

>>16026713
>Admitting to being a normie
Out

>> No.16027777

>>16026219

I'm not the one crying constantly since last night about her not streaming the final.

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I don't know why there are people who think that she couldn't stream. She already took the time to stream her preliminaries. Even if she was too tired to keep her stream setup, she could've just turned on her mic and put a static png of her avatar on her stream, which she already did for the tournament from a few months ago. She had was sick and lacked sleep but still streamed then.

>> No.16029026

>>16017647
Then you should be happy with the present result

>> No.16029054

>>16027777
checked

also boo hoo my oshi didn't stream an hour of her life, how will I live if I don't get a live stream from her bathroom when she's on the toilet?????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.16030012

>>16027777
No, you're the one making excuses for an entertainer fucking up.

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