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/#/ Numbers Thread Anonymous Sun Jan 16 22:56:55 2022 No.16549324 [Reply] [Original]

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 22:58:57 2022 No.16549415 >>16549324 i'm bored of numbers now what else you got?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:00:17 2022 No.16549464 >>16549415 VTuber Industry Talk with Phase-Connect CEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K205OFTa0w

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:02:02 2022 No.16549551 >>16549324 Previous: >>16528732

Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:03:05 2022 No.16549608

>>16549324
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:09:35 2022 No.16549916 File: 295 KB, 704x663, Lofi girl gets MOGGED.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16549415 You can take a look at non-vtuber numbers every once in a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:11:53 2022 No.16550036 File: 548 KB, 860x553, collab.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16549864 >"You should hire people that like streaming, talent is secondary." -- Sakana and Ura

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:14:34 2022 No.16550168 >>16549864 >Jun at #10 That's insane considering no one outside of Japan even knows he's exists, but Japan is #1 so I guess that makes sense

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:16:37 2022 No.16550269 >>16549864 Genshit got that sweet spot of coomer and fujo audience also ensemble stars that high but not twisted woderland huh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:18:21 2022 No.16550369 >>16550168 You could say the same for #1 in that list.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:18:23 2022 No.16550372 File: 498 KB, 1536x2048, colon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16549864 >Jun and Dream mogged by a half 2D half 3D boy SutoPuri domination

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:18:42 2022 No.16550388 >>16549864 >3 spics in top 5 how?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:19:07 2022 No.16550417 >>16550036 Shut the fuck up Urara, name one Tsunderia Vtuber with talent

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:20:30 2022 No.16550484 >>16550269 Disney killed twisted with no content.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:21:02 2022 No.16550511 >>16550388 Look at their twitch numbers. Ibai had a 700k+ new years countdown stream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:22:23 2022 No.16550585 >>16550036 Meanwhile you have Council. Talentless AND they don't like streaming.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:22:43 2022 No.16550604 >>16550388 They are Spaniards but yeah they have crazy amount of viewers is mostly minecraft/cod/normalfag content, hispanics viewers bring a lot of numbers but no money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:24:18 2022 No.16550688 >>16550388 Younger audiences probably tired with their local entertainment and can't understand English to watch/pirate western tv shows/movies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:26:27 2022 No.16550809 >>16550484 I wonder if the global version will flop or help it incline funny enough ensemble stars also getting a global version, is it the age of fujos?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:30:22 2022 No.16551022 >>16549324 HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I DONT UNDERSTAND

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:31:19 2022 No.16551078 >>16549864 Is fujo fanbase big on Twitter?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:31:52 2022 No.16551121 >>16549324 Wait, when the fuck did Gura jump to 3.75? She was at 3.72 like, a week ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:32:26 2022 No.16551155 File: 43 KB, 568x339, 1622782519536.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16551022 >>16549324 hehehe nutting personel kiddo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:33:36 2022 No.16551222 File: 47 KB, 778x351, 18257127812785125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] holokeks???

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:34:16 2022 No.16551259 File: 21 KB, 935x369, gura userlocal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16551121 She gained 80k just this month.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:36:44 2022 No.16551393 >>16550585 What the fuck was loserbait thinking with this? Why didn't he just ask the JP scouting department do it? HoloX was a grand slam so the talent for scouting is still there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:38:42 2022 No.16551488 So Gura will hit 4 million in april.. Sasuga shark.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:41:20 2022 No.16551620 >>16550036 Does she always talk like ThEAth?

Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:41:43 2022 No.16551637

Crazy to think if Fauna wasn't streaming now, we would have another day where no ENs are streaming during EN primetime.
She might even get 10k on fucking House Flipper at this rate due to no competition.

Gura has done 1 stream this week and Ame's last stream was 5 days ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:42:56 2022 No.16551694 File: 406 KB, 579x447, our people.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16549464 >CCV is the most important thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:43:32 2022 No.16551719 >>16551078 that's where they all went when tumblr died

Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:43:53 2022 No.16551736
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>>16551393
Myth
>Kiara 50.4
>Mori 44.5
>Ame 23.9
>Ina 21
>Gura 20.7

>avg: 32.1

Council
>Baelz 31.4
>Sana 26.7
>Fauna 19.4
>Mumei 18.5
>Kronii 17.3

>avg: 22.66

HoloX
>Koyori 82.2
>Iroha 39.7
>Lui 37.4
>Chloe 15.4
>Laplus 15.3

>avg: 38

councilbros...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:43:58 2022 No.16551741 >>16551620 yeah she has a pretty bad lisp

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:44:51 2022 No.16551792 >>16551637 I hate to say,HoloEN are losing to NijiEN. They are no competitive and lazy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:44:53 2022 No.16551796 File: 107 KB, 250x231, 1620332652545.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16551637 >Ame's last stream was 5 days ago. Damn...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:47:00 2022 No.16551907 >>16551736 >Koyori has streamed more than the top 3 council members combined

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:48:44 2022 No.16552006 >>16551907 Koyori was bad pick they said.kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:48:46 2022 No.16552009 >>16551736 Holy shit I thought that Iroha was slacking when i compared her to Koyori but it really is just Koyori grinding like hell

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:49:56 2022 No.16552084 >>16551907 >Pink doge is really addicted to streaming She wasn't joking when she visited Sakura shrine.

Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:50:44 2022 No.16552128

>>16551694
Don't be reductive, they talked about a lot of stuff there.

CCV is the most important for a streamer because it directly influences pay, the money you can get from your audience.
If subs are more important to you
Growing on YT depends more on offline content - shorts, videos, vods.
Growing from just streaming happens more naturally on Twitch, you should go there if video making isn't wat you want to do.
in just.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:50:44 2022 No.16552126 >>16551736 Irys is in league with ame and ina. Shes honorably myth.

Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:51:04 2022 No.16552155

>>16551792
This is what happens when you're handed shit. NijiEN sucks balls as entertainment but they work and being out there is more important than anything else. I have deep respect for NijiEN that I cannot give HoloEN. JP girls fucking work and work hard even when they have easy popularity. The person handed the biggest silver spoon in vtubing of all time, Hakui Koyori, basically averages two streams a day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:51:10 2022 No.16552162 >>16551736 What would it take to make Council wake the fuck up? A successful Gen 3?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:51:40 2022 No.16552186 >>16551637 HoloEN wtf Are they kneeling to Luxiem?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:51:52 2022 No.16552199 >>16552084 I wish Laplus was this addicted... She barely streams by HoloX standards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:53:00 2022 No.16552274 >>16552199 Laplus streams a lot, she just does short streams. Most of her streams are 1 hour and they still get great numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:53:01 2022 No.16552275 >>16549464 This is a great stream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:54:13 2022 No.16552335 >>16552186 I doubt they care about Luxiem's numbers until they start getting those numbers during EN hours

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:54:29 2022 No.16552351 >>16551736 When will this board recognize that EN is shit? Their only copout is muh gura.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:54:50 2022 No.16552373 >>16552274 I know. I see her all the time but she leaves me wanting more. Iroha seems to stream enough to be in our faces but not enough that she's always on the telly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:54:57 2022 No.16552385 >deleted well that was a quick one, keep it up

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:55:37 2022 No.16552420 >>16552199 McD Hotspot please understand. She's moving confirmed, right? >>16552162 Mumei is fine. I don't watch the rest. The vtweeter needs to graduate though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 16 23:55:54 2022 No.16552437 >>16552351 Good numbers Gura Mori's music >Under par Everything else HoloEN does

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:00:18 2022 No.16552676 >>16552162 Nothing. It's their personality. They could be NijiEN female numbers and they wouldn't care. Where is the ambition? If you bother to apply you should bother to care. I pray every day that the scales fall from their eyes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:00:18 2022 No.16552675 >>16552351 HoloEN dodgeball

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:01:03 2022 No.16552721 >>16552199 She does shorter streams because she also has a lot of collabs and promos this month (and bad internet). She was in what, 16 streams in the 16 days so far? Was just a few hours ago in the Hololive NND promotional stream.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:02:00 2022 No.16552774

>>16552162
I think competition wouldn't do it. They are going to make a comfortable living no matter what.
Ambition and work ethic should be a primary scouting factor for the next generation. They need to find someone hungry, metaphorically and also literally

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:02:48 2022 No.16552815 >>16552155 >NijiEN sucks balls as entertainment t.holobrony

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:03:33 2022 No.16552872 >>16552162 Their membership numbers need to die out. Right now they are coasting on the passive income because they all have a ton of memberships, I feel like it is contributing to the laziness. EZ money, EZ life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:05:17 2022 No.16552968 >>16552351 EN is a frustrating waste of potential.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:05:38 2022 No.16552989

>>16552774
Soo, Holostars EN?

I mean, there's literally no one in Holo left trying as hard as the Stars.

Writing this as Astel is singing his heart out in his 4th stream in the last 24 hours, 12 hours of streams in total.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3Orjo7puM

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:06:37 2022 No.16553040

>>16552815
I am, unapologetically.
I still respect NijiEN a lot though.

>>16552774
HoloX was well done. A few people with a lot of ambition, a few people with strong work ethics, and some of them with a chill personality. Not every member is like this but each quality is in at least 3 of them. Makes me wonder what went wrong with the scouting team with council.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:06:56 2022 No.16553055 File: 383 KB, 1080x2014, Loser.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The pekoraschizo in this thread is nijifag...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:07:31 2022 No.16553089 >>16552989 No ,all they need are girls who love streaming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:08:28 2022 No.16553143 >>16551259 This shark's a goddamn algorithm monster. I can't believe people were delusional enough to think Chloe could beat her sub record to 1 million

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:08:45 2022 No.16553164

>>16553040
>Makes me wonder what went wrong with the scouting team with council.
I honestly think they played themselves and made it a priority to find people that weren't "in it for money" which in reality just translated to people that weren't ambitious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:10:26 2022 No.16553255 >>16553040 Council has great talents and potential, but they are Andrew Wiggins kek.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:11:56 2022 No.16553338 >>16552351 HoloEN = 11 gura

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:12:25 2022 No.16553367 >>16553255 >Wiggins He has more work ethic than council. They remind me more of Derrick Coleman, if you're old enough to remember him. Could have been the best of all time if he gave a shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:12:49 2022 No.16553384 >>16553143 >goddamn algorithm monster It's not just the stream clips. Her karaoke clips are probably collectively gaining several hundred thousand views a day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:14:02 2022 No.16553457 File: 159 KB, 376x293, 1638832448922.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16553040 >Makes me wonder what went wrong with the scouting team with council >scouting

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:15:26 2022 No.16553536

>>16553255
>Council has great talents
Where? There's no prolific streamer, the ASMR one is mediocre at ASMR, none of them are particularly great at singing, none of them are organizing big exciting collabs or anything, and the fucking artist doesn't do art on stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:15:51 2022 No.16553561 >>16552989 Why is he collabing with sonicfox?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:17:16 2022 No.16553636 >>16553040 >scouting >He still thinks Cover scouts people instead of reviewing applicants

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:17:32 2022 No.16553646 >>16553040 Should've listened to Mel or Azki input for scouting pick desu They got us EN best streamer : IRyS too bad EN management decided to debuff her hard with that model

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:17:37 2022 No.16553650 >>16553055 and a bug

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:17:40 2022 No.16553653 >>16553040 >what went wrong with the scouting team with council. Ina wasted a slot with Sana instead of someone that actually want numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:18:44 2022 No.16553706 >>16553164 Omega & EN management too busy cockblocking Chammers&Coc*ck for a whole year to do quality scouting. So once again, it's all Coco's fault.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:19:22 2022 No.16553734

>>16553536
The only world class thing they have is Sana's art. Kronii isn't the best VA in the world, Mumei is okay at singing but not amazing, and Fauna isn't great at ASMR. Bae would be decent if she just ignored the troon and played to her strengths. She isn't world class at anything but I feel there is potential with her that I don't feel with anyone else.

IRyS is more talented than them. That was a good pick even if they gave her a shitty model.

>>16553636
How many applications do you think they get?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:19:24 2022 No.16553738 >>16553055 Well duh no surprise there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:19:29 2022 No.16553740 >>16553646 Irys with a high tier hag model would pull insane numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:21:34 2022 No.16553854 >>16550388 high quality streamers very social culture famous soccer player stream and collab with big streamers. They are turning to them for interviews over traditional sport journalists

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:21:54 2022 No.16553877 >>16553734 Thousands. Everyone in Myth said they applied regularly so where do you guys get the idea that Cover actively scouts people? Oh right, the voice in your heads.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:22:01 2022 No.16553883

Does Holo has something big for today scheduled? Niji has a 3D stream and probably will be the highest thing from them

https://youtu.be/H5XL09SfFbo

The line up is kinda.. well, maybe 30k? The announcement for this on twitter got 11k likes and this is very low for NijiJP twitter lol

https://twitter.com/rena_yorumi/status/1481961017168982018

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:22:42 2022 No.16553908 >>16553734 The worst part is that no one is acting as the gen leader. It looks like Bae was supposed to be the leader but she can't lead shit and is too scared. Instead it's Myth organizing everything for Council.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:23:36 2022 No.16553957 >>16553877 Someone has to review those applications and those that do have to make assessments which includes scouting work like reviewing their body of work. Scouting isn't just jumping in the wilderness and finding people to offer jobs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:24:26 2022 No.16553996 >>16551907 She's a streaming monster like Pekora and Watame

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:24:55 2022 No.16554018 >>16553883 Wow they made a trailer for this? Chaika is pretty popular for 3D but Rena and Rion are debuffs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:26:17 2022 No.16554084 >>16551907 I find it hilarious that one of the biggest criticisms against her is that she's 'trying too hard'. Streaming too much, calling into too many streams, etc. Must be nice to have that as an issue coming from Council.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:26:21 2022 No.16554090

>>16553877
What would you call an employee that has to review thousands of performer applications, judge 5 minute sizzle reels, and stuff like that? I always thought the industry standard term for such a person would be "talent scout". I guess hiring manager could fit but that seems more like someone who hires code monkeys or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:26:47 2022 No.16554110 >>16553734 I'm curious are there other EN vtubers that have world class talent?

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:27:06 2022 No.16554129

>>16553957
I think the problem is they tried to go for non streaming/gaming skills as a priority and it blew up in their face when most of Council doesn't even like streaming. Sana is the most baffling when she would have easily kept up with her genmates by just doing drawing streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:28:58 2022 No.16554235 >>16554084 Council doesnt look like a gen, they just look like JP gen4 without Coco.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:29:19 2022 No.16554258 >>16553055 lmao you cannot imagine my shock

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:30:14 2022 No.16554318 >>16554084 And we have Ayame and Toya who worshiped here even though rarely streaming. In the end, they need to stream smartly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:30:50 2022 No.16554349 >>16554235 Hey don't lump watame with council, she is by far one of the most hard working member in Hololive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:31:03 2022 No.16554368 >>16554235 >who

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:31:36 2022 No.16554394 >>16554235 They don’t have that same “unity” feeling that Gen 6 and Myth had.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:32:21 2022 No.16554449 >>16554235 Council more like JP2 than JP4

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:33:34 2022 No.16554511 >>16554449 Gen 2 put in the work early. Their 2022 selves aren't their 2018 selves.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:33:49 2022 No.16554528

>>16554318

Ayame is a special case but Toya streams what he is best at: Zatsudan and viewer participation stuff. Like, he is just really good at talking and presenting things on collabs (No wonder he is the go guy for Niji events). You will rarely see pure gaming stuff from him because he knows he is not the best at it too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:34:12 2022 No.16554548 >>16553740 this, or you know.. Aloe model

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:34:47 2022 No.16554574 >>16554511 Subaru is the only gen 2 that streams consistently now... Choco sometimes too when she's not sleeping 48 hours straight

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:35:33 2022 No.16554623 >some anon outs the schizoposter as a bug nijinigger >suddenly a lot of samefagging in the thread trying to drown that post

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:35:37 2022 No.16554630 >>16554449 JP2: Aqua Ayame Shion Shuba Choco When you have this lineup, you dont give a fuck about "unity"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:36:54 2022 No.16554692 >>16553055 lol what a fucking loser.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:37:11 2022 No.16554705 >>16554630 >Shuba Choco They get along well. >>16554630 >Aqua Ayame Shion This was a killer trio in the early years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:38:59 2022 No.16554802 >>16554394 Council has many problems but I don't think unity is one of them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:42:15 2022 No.16554966 >>16554705 Yes, gen2 doesnt need "unity"thing, they are doing fine now. Choco just got 14K yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:42:32 2022 No.16554987 >>16554318 They are worshipped here as in this thread because they get great numbers in an unconventional way. On the wider board Ayame at least is one of the most shitposted vtubers out there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:42:55 2022 No.16555009 >>16554630 if somehow we can get another glimpse of pre idol route aqua, addicted and motivated choco again in 2022...

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:44:57 2022 No.16555122

>>16554966
>they are doing fine now
3 of them are literally on semi-hiatus for most of the year.
They bring in numbers whenever they do stream, but that's not "fine".
If Hololive only had 2 gens, people would be roasting them too.
Their flaws are just covered up by the other gens filling timeslots.
And before you say this is just recent, Shion and Ayame have always been inconsistent with their streaming hours since 2019.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:47:56 2022 No.16555291 Surprised no one mentioned here but all NijiEN memberships are paused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:48:02 2022 No.16555301 >>16555122 Ayame was consistent till mid/late 2020.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:48:11 2022 No.16555316 [DELETED]

>>16554705
Pardon me for being new, how were Gen2 numbers in the olden days? When did they stop being active? I only know of Aqua becoming less active in 2021 and Ayame was already a ghost member then. Obviously they weren't like this back when hololive was just Gen1&2. When did it happen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:49:10 2022 No.16555363 File: 190 KB, 877x388, morning.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Monday morning is so low.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:50:33 2022 No.16555428 >>16555291 What on Earth are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:51:20 2022 No.16555467 >>16555363 >Zelda Lamy should just speed up and finish this asap. Very numbers poison and she is at episode 14 now...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:51:47 2022 No.16555488 File: 44 KB, 610x425, 568979.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16555428 https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1482865249493479425?s=21

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:52:22 2022 No.16555520 Niji losing again huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:53:08 2022 No.16555565 >>16554394 >>16554802 Council didn't had a trial by fire like Myth did and this makes them look less cohesive, even tho they have way better chemistry than debut Myth

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:53:58 2022 No.16555611 >>16555488 Prevent to be culled? What a bunch of numberfags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:54:44 2022 No.16555645 File: 225 KB, 875x1310, 0116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today's superchats, missing Ui at $22.6k as per Holostats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:54:48 2022 No.16555648 >>16555488 Seems like a nothingburger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:54:59 2022 No.16555653 >>16554623 cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:56:26 2022 No.16555729 >>16555645 What did Ina do to prompt her getting that many donos?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:57:05 2022 No.16555765 >>16555645 Does that make it 3 days in a row males have been number one in superchats?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:57:23 2022 No.16555785 >>16554235 council feels more like gen 1 more than anything really

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:57:31 2022 No.16555794 >>16555645 >Koyori What an earner. >Patra She had a collab with meh Nijis though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:57:42 2022 No.16555802 >>16555645 where's pomu? https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:58:30 2022 No.16555843 >>16555765 anon, read the post again...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:59:06 2022 No.16555884 >>16555843 dang it...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 00:59:15 2022 No.16555897 >>16555729 she joked about a Tako Bank and people started SCing to be funny

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:00:47 2022 No.16555995 >>16554090 I don't know about JP stuff, but in the states we call that a Casting Director.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:02:44 2022 No.16556116 >>16555897 Reminds me of when Kiara jokingly membership begged and got around 100+ memberships in a few minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:03:56 2022 No.16556183 File: 113 KB, 716x906, Screenshot_20220113-195153_Gmail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16555488 Just YT doing YT things again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:03:59 2022 No.16556184 >>16555488 They may be changing personal information, as happened recently with JP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:04:03 2022 No.16556190 >>16549324 i hate that stupid face

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:05:00 2022 No.16556234 File: 38 KB, 179x161, 1641862256702.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16556116 >jokingly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:06:33 2022 No.16556312 >>16555794 >>16555802 Anons your date reps.... Patra's stream today was showing off her studio and all her very expensive ASMR equipment which obviously prompted a lot of SCs, and Pomu's $2.6k stream was yesterday, she just barely missed that chart

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:06:42 2022 No.16556321 >>16555785 >gen 1 I wish there is Fubuki-like holo exists in Council or even in HoloEN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:07:04 2022 No.16556344 File: 112 KB, 315x343, 16097952707790.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16556116 >Kiara >jokingly begged

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:10:10 2022 No.16556480

>>16552128
Their business model pretty much depends on SCs and probably to a much lesser extend memberships. Their views are so low the ad rev is gonna be jackshit, so a bigger VOD after the fact won't help them. In reality, their VODs probably never grow anyway because they have no algorithm presence so after a day or two they're gonna reach their final number and sit there like that until the end of time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:11:36 2022 No.16556545 File: 123 KB, 877x216, SLOW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >literally just 2 chuubas from holo and niji streaming right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:12:09 2022 No.16556577 >>16554235 Gen 4 puts in too much effort compared to council.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:14:20 2022 No.16556668 >>16555785 >gen 1 imagine if we had another haachama, someone who can unironically go toe to toe with her energy... speaking of haachama, I saw someone on /hlgg/ say she's going to purposely demonetize herself? what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:14:53 2022 No.16556700 >>16556545 It's Monday morning after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:15:40 2022 No.16556733 >>16554235 Council are just gen 5 but better, not exactly a high bar to set tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:17:51 2022 No.16556822 >>16556733 >Gen 5 but better >Lamy alone has streamed more this month than Bae, Sana and Fauna together

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:17:53 2022 No.16556824 >>16556733 >better Lamy = top 3 council

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:19:01 2022 No.16556881 >>16553734 irys is unironically a better video game commentator than any of council

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:20:47 2022 No.16556965

>>16552162
>What would it take to make Council wake the fuck up?
>A successful Gen 3?
Pretty much. It happened with he rise of Gen 3, Coco, early Myth, and now HoloX.
An overly competitive gen three, one that likes streaming, thats ambitious enough to do their own events, and is unabashedly akasupa baits will motivate Council and reinvigorate Myth. With that said, there are always going to be 'lost causes' not matter what.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:20:51 2022 No.16556967

>>16556480
>their VODs probably never grow anyway because they have no algorithm presence so after a day or two
I never thought about it but this is true. I'm subbed to a lot of small corpo vtubers and will often see them live streaming in my recommendations. I've never seen a single one of their VODs show up but month old Ookami Mio VODs will show up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:23:47 2022 No.16557098 >>16554090 recruiter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:24:03 2022 No.16557112 >>16556733 >Better Okay gen5 schizo time to take your meds. Even Nene does better ASMR than Fauna and that’s supposed to be her niche

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:24:06 2022 No.16557113 >>16551637 It's also sunday too fucking crazy that there are too many days that are far more dry than pre council. What the fuck happened with the scouting you shitty Omega?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:26:09 2022 No.16557220 File: 25 KB, 378x146, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] noone streaming right now. instead of streaming to shill her new song she's just tweeted. Cover should fire all En managers. They did a shit job.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:26:20 2022 No.16557227

>>16554110
Talking about world class talent is a meme anyways.
If there really was someone with a world class talent in something like singing or voice acting, they would be a professional in that field rather than be a vtuber.
For a vtuber, having high specs doesn't mean anything if you aren't a good entertainer first.

Forget about EN, even for JP, Pekora, Marine, Miko, Kuzuha...etc all don't have any world class talents, but they're some of the biggest vtubers because they're funny and good entertainers.
There are dozens of Vsingers that are way better than them at singing, but their covers get 1/10th the views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:27:48 2022 No.16557296 >>16557220 This. It's criminal how incompetent they are. If I was in charge I'd have Council graduated and executed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:28:26 2022 No.16557333 >>16557113 Fauna did her job already today, Kronii and Irys stream at 8 PST/11 EST. Bae and Mori stream even later than that. Mumei is debutting a song in 2 hours. This is Gura and Ame's timeslot, today has nothing to do with Council.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:28:50 2022 No.16557350 File: 166 KB, 473x336, 1642286076585.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >holoen is mogged by vshoujo bros...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:30:55 2022 No.16557448 >>16556733 Gen5 are better than your Council lazy hags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:31:50 2022 No.16557484 >>16557333 Gura and Ame don't want to stream anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:32:30 2022 No.16557518 File: 119 KB, 399x400, 1550692392916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >holo earth

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:32:56 2022 No.16557544 >>16557220 With over two thousand auditions, why did they hire someone who was still in school instead of a full time streamer? At least with Haachama, she was hire way before Hololive was a big deal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:34:12 2022 No.16557613 >>16557518 >holo space :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:35:18 2022 No.16557666 >>16557544 We all no the reason: PL numbers. Fauna? PL numbers Kronii? PL numbers Sana? Ina Bae? Probably the only time they did their job. IRyS was a layup so that doesn't count.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:37:28 2022 No.16557768 [DELETED]

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What kinda view counts would EN chuubas get streaming on their personal accounts with a facecam? When Kiara did it that one time she made a fucking killing, ironically way more successful than her vtuber streams. Kson proved that it's a way better way to make money without Cover stealing 30%+. Amelia should say fuck it and just stream on twitch on her off days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:38:35 2022 No.16557818 >>16557768 >ironically way more successful than her vtuber streams How much was it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:38:35 2022 No.16557817 File: 1.01 MB, 680x1920, 1614111584757.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will numbers keep track if collab with males affect holos numbers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:38:41 2022 No.16557822 Cover should fire unpopular one like sana,mel,choco

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:39:01 2022 No.16557838 File: 41 KB, 2283x72, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:39:03 2022 No.16557841 >>16556480 It's so unfair. How do we topple Hololive algo dominance? These smaller corpos deserve a part of the algo too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:41:00 2022 No.16557938 >>16557818 I think like 35k or so. Way more than even her outfit reveal which was embarrassing low, somehow beaten by all of Council including Sana.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:41:37 2022 No.16557965

>>16557817
Didn't affect Bae's numbers, didn't affect Mori's numbers, didn't affect Kiara's numbers.
If they're streaming their POVs, that collab would get low views because EN viewers don't care about Iofi and Aruran, not because they're collabing with a male.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:42:31 2022 No.16558005 >>16557817 They’re harmless and well aware that flirting with a Holo is a death sentence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:43:08 2022 No.16558037 >>16557817 I bet this pic is from reddit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:46:40 2022 No.16558186 Vox genshin Mysta Apex Prediction?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:47:34 2022 No.16558218 File: 999 KB, 1280x720, the scary one.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16558005 >stars are on the leash True, I forgot about that. >>16558037 I got from hlgg but yeah, it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:47:35 2022 No.16558220 Council will be a game changer for holo because male collab

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:49:18 2022 No.16558292 >>16557822 >Fire Mel and Choco What a fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:49:19 2022 No.16558293 >>16558186 >Vox genshin 6k like usual. He's had 5 6k genshin streams at this point that you wouldn't expect much more or a huge drop. >Mysta Apex 6 to 8k. They're overlapping tho so might be lower than expected for both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:49:21 2022 No.16558295 File: 99 KB, 582x405, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 100k votes, 14k likes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:49:59 2022 No.16558315 >>16558186 Will mog Kuzuha.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:50:01 2022 No.16558318 >>16558295 twitter cull....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:53:48 2022 No.16558501 >>16558186 Vox did fujo stream yesterday, he will be at 9K with fujo buff. Apex is debuff for Mysta fem audiance, 7K

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:55:13 2022 No.16558561 >>16556733 Lamy stream in their time spot more time than they do

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:55:14 2022 No.16558562 >>16558315 Vox already did yesterday. To be fair, Kuzuha is playing with a handicap with that VaLULrant shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:56:11 2022 No.16558601 >>16558562 Kuzuha peak was higher than Vox, no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:56:42 2022 No.16558624 >>16558501 >Vox did fujo stream yesterday, he will be at 9K with fujo buff. he dropped from 13k to 9k once chaarcter creation ended 6-7k afew more if he decideds tho whale at some point.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:57:05 2022 No.16558638

>>16558220
Except Holos have collabed with males a lot of times prior to this and nothing changed.
Especially Aruran, who networked a lot and collabed a lot just to sit at 200 views at the end of the day. He needs to stream smarter.
>>16558562
King peaked higher, please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:57:43 2022 No.16558678 >>16558562 kuzuha got 15k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:57:56 2022 No.16558690 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTb_AvLchgY Laplus' God-ish cover hit 6 million.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 01:59:58 2022 No.16558777 >>16557841 Use other sites. Hololive dont dominate TikTok.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:00:54 2022 No.16558815 >>16558690 This took 47 days. For comparison, Ayame's Goodbye Sengen took 50 days. The only Holo songs faster to 6 million is Reflect and CalliGura KING. Laplus is the real deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:02:20 2022 No.16558882 >>16558815 Lapcunny I kneel! May your new house have high speed internet!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:02:51 2022 No.16558908 File: 87 KB, 900x900, NimuPortrait3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16550388 They're the future of VTubing, baby!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:03:11 2022 No.16558918 >CCV is the most important for vtuber afterall. CCVchads we won

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:05:03 2022 No.16559003 >>16558815 And people think Rokkisei wasn't a gland slam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:05:11 2022 No.16559010 >5k waiting for Mumei OG song with 1 hour left so much people that could be watching a stream in the meantime...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:06:04 2022 No.16559061 >>16559010 tabs are a thing. Also tabs existing is why numbers are so good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:06:49 2022 No.16559100 >>16559010 Expectations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:07:17 2022 No.16559125 >>16559010 .... this gonna mog the hell out of Spark of Joy right bros?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:07:36 2022 No.16559137 >>16559010 >So much

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:08:38 2022 No.16559179 Looking at the song view growth ranking, Ochame and CalliGura KING really shot up after Kuzuha's KING reached 30M huh, lmao.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:08:43 2022 No.16559192 >>16549864 >Thailand >Indonesia >Philip no wonder genshin got #1 place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:08:43 2022 No.16559191 >>16559125 Of course. IRyS is the weird case where she doesn't get an "EN Buff" for her music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:09:09 2022 No.16559209 >>16559125 No. Council is a failure. It will be panned as the worst single in HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:09:14 2022 No.16559211 >>16559003 I don't think anyone not trolling can say Gen 6 was a flop. They have excelled in every numerical metric.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:09:20 2022 No.16559217 >>16559137 Omg Chinks are everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:09:55 2022 No.16559248 >>16559125 Spark of Joy is EN version of smile & go, everyone passed it at some point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:10:57 2022 No.16559297 >>16559125 It's going to beat Sparks of Joy on day 1. The trailer for A new Start has 40k more views than Sparks of Joy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:11:08 2022 No.16559308 File: 472 KB, 401x551, 1641530291806.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16553040 >what went wrong with the scouting team with council. They dont have picrel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:11:12 2022 No.16559314 >>16559003 Gen 6 should be the role model on how they should do future gens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:11:39 2022 No.16559330 >>16559211 HoloEN fans were. You can't even talk about them in global without people calling you out for being off topic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:11:41 2022 No.16559333 >>16559297 >The trailer for A new Start has 40k more views than Sparks of Joy. ok now that's kinda sad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:13:53 2022 No.16559437 Fact - 814k My song - 728k 天使のagape - 499k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:15:05 2022 No.16559501 >>16559125 All of Irys songs are incredibly badly promoted/marketed. Hell most of the songs took weeks/months to actually be on her channel at all, and where not announced/promoted premieres.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:15:05 2022 No.16559502 >>16557296 This is why you're not in charge

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:15:37 2022 No.16559524 >>16559308 Myth fucked up by telling them to take it easy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:18:59 2022 No.16559672 File: 41 KB, 564x505, 51hbgs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16559209

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:19:19 2022 No.16559685 >>16559209 Why are you so angry about COuncil?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:20:31 2022 No.16559728 >>16559685 She's a seething 2view

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:20:48 2022 No.16559740 File: 35 KB, 400x400, egReMa_T_400x400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16559437

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:20:51 2022 No.16559743 >>16555363 >>16555467 >Zelda Seriously how does it take for her to finish this game!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:21:36 2022 No.16559780 >>16559685 Its a falseflagger, the same ones that latch onto anything they can spin for drama/you counts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:22:10 2022 No.16559806 >>16559501 >>16559333 Fuck off Make sure you go into Mumei's song premiere and leave a dislike. Let her know that collabing with males is NOT ok. IRyS would never collab with males.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:22:14 2022 No.16559809 >>16559209 HoloEN - New Year's outfit >Gura 50,982 Kronii 48,121 Mumei 41,789 Baelz 40,367 >Mori 38,821 Fauna 34,918 >Ame 32,958 >Ina 31,352 Sana 25,990 >Kiara 21,66

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:22:54 2022 No.16559841 >>16559809 >culled vs unculled

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:23:13 2022 No.16559864 >>16559841 EN is still getting culled.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:23:48 2022 No.16559885 >>16559809 This proves that Council is stronger than Myth. Myth obviously has Gura who carries hard but Council is a lot more well rounded in their ability to draw an audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:24:00 2022 No.16559895 HoloEN needs 3 things now: 1.Talents can stream six hours each day. 2.Streaming different games besides MC ,Pokemon and Apex. 3.Doing "Boxpushing" just like what Luxiam did.Fuck,if Coco is still there..

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:24:32 2022 No.16559919 >>16559864 There is a difference between the slap on the wrist cull everyone got last year and the one we just experienced that culled people by as much as 90%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:25:25 2022 No.16559963 >>16559895 >Talents can stream six hours each day. Kiara, Mori, Sana >Streaming different games besides MC ,Pokemon and Apex. Just about all of them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:25:39 2022 No.16559975 >>16559806 Are you lost? This is numbers, not hlg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:25:56 2022 No.16559987 >>16557817 JPmale collabs are fine in general as they fully know and respect Hologirls idolity (also kinda entertaining seeing them tip-toe-ing around the girls). ENfaggots tho...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:26:03 2022 No.16559996 >>16559895 >Minecraft if they played on the holoserver it would be good for numbers >Pokemon no one is playing it anymore >Apex literally no one does regular apex on holoen besides some ocasional stream from ame

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:26:43 2022 No.16560027 HoloEN needs 3 things now: 1.Talents can stream six hours each day. 2.Streaming different games besides MC ,Pokemon and Apex. 3.Doing "Boxpushing" just like what Luxiam did.Fuck,if Coco was still there..

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:26:58 2022 No.16560038

>>16559895
>Streaming different games besides MC ,Pokemon and Apex.
Who is still streaming MC, pokemon and Apex?
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>Doing "Boxpushing" just like what Luxiam did.Fuck,if Coco is still there..
What does this even mean?
Ngl I get really annoyed when people treat Coco like some deity just because she graduated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:27:18 2022 No.16560052 File: 207 KB, 517x459, 1641360969556.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16557822 >>16558292 I swear to god i've seen this before! >A-are we in the timeloop bros?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:28:51 2022 No.16560122 File: 558 KB, 885x703, 1642334882250.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16559003 >gland >hehe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:29:52 2022 No.16560168 >>16557817 That's a great lineup, and I'm happy for pizza dad to get to try speaking english. Dude is based beyond belief.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:30:27 2022 No.16560197 >>16559895 >myth outfit relay ends >collab ends >no one streams >council outfit relay ends >collab ends >no one streams I really really really hope NijiEN starts doing better, they deserve it, not these lazy whores

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:30:47 2022 No.16560207

>>16560027
They need someone with ambition. They need to stand on the shoulders of giants instead of sitting down and acting like it's a nuisance to be in the company. "Intangibles" picks do not win championships. They need a HoloX, not Council but worse. There is a reason most people hate Council and it isn't from schizophrenia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:30:47 2022 No.16560208 >>16560168 >great lineup Fuck off. If you want to see intergender collabs that means you are a cuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:31:49 2022 No.16560256 >>16560207 >There is a reason most people hate Council Yeah, schizophrenia. Nobody hates council aside from a handful of shit posters from here. Get some perspective Nijinigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:32:00 2022 No.16560266 >>16560207 >There is a reason most people hate Council and it isn't from schizophrenia. Ogey schizo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:32:28 2022 No.16560291 >>16560208 >numbers They're not even in Japan to fuck or whatever, also Aruran lost his dick before he joined Holo, it just dropped... or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:33:56 2022 No.16560355 >>16560208 You're in the wrong thread

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:34:14 2022 No.16560367

>>16560027
They ironically need 2 person that "lead" and the la creatividad. Myth was saved with Kiara leading them in pushing collab and stuff. Ame also trully play her role as de facto leader by showing languange barrier can be breached.
>also
Her many la creatividad group projects help strenghten their bond

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:34:42 2022 No.16560389

>>16560256
I love hololive. Council's mere existence is disrespectful to hololive. Maybe not everyone hates them but you know what is worse? People don't care about them. Nobody is getting into hololive thanks to council. No big name artists tie themselves to them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:34:47 2022 No.16560393 >>16553908 &IRYS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:35:06 2022 No.16560405 >>16557817 What if the Stars catch CCVID...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:36:12 2022 No.16560456 >>16560197 I would be funny if HoloEN got beaten up by their laziness not Luxiem or Chinks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:36:17 2022 No.16560461 >>16560405 damn bro, they gonna lose 10 viewers, they shakin' rn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:36:27 2022 No.16560469 >>16560389 Nice try nijinigger, no one is buying it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:36:27 2022 No.16560471 How do we save the NijiEN girls?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:37:03 2022 No.16560504 >>16560471 1k+ views is better than 99% of streamers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:37:41 2022 No.16560544 >>16560504 >Celebrating 1k. Pathetic cope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:38:01 2022 No.16560574 >>16560471 Dont worry,NijiEN boys will teabag them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:38:35 2022 No.16560601 >>16560471 Change their gender.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:38:43 2022 No.16560606 >>16560504 They're lower than the failure Gen that is Council. That's just pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:38:45 2022 No.16560609 >>16560504 Fallback cope is worthless. While 1k is certainly top 10% in the industry it's not exactly good, it's just that there's way more doing worse. Reminder that they have the Anycolor brand on top of their heads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:38:47 2022 No.16560611 >>16560168 No matter how based you think he is all of the homos are number cancer and the girls get absolutely nothing out of collabing with them, just all downsides

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:39:17 2022 No.16560644 >>16559191 >IRyS is the weird case where she doesn't get an "EN Buff" for her music. At this point, she's more known for being a streamer than a singer.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:39:26 2022 No.16560650

>>16560389
It still boogles me how little council receive critism outside of /here/. People were hard on myths even today. That's why we have calli doing better on streaming and actually gave a fuck about holo. Even Ame and kiara got called out from time to time still. Why nobody voice any critics againt council? Do holofags just not care about them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:40:08 2022 No.16560676 File: 56 KB, 974x659, memberships.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16560469 Nope, never have and never will watch Nijisanji. I don't appreciate Council.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:41:08 2022 No.16560712 >>16560611 They get relationship points. Maybe Aruran will bring up and push EN's 3D the next time he meets Yagoo. >>16560676 Someone is going to call you a last samurai now, in 3.... 2... 1...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:42:02 2022 No.16560740 >>16560676 Bro I can look up the memberships thread too

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:43:02 2022 No.16560779 In the wake of Luxiem's success, can we conclude that NijiEN females' low numbers is not a branding problem now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:43:30 2022 No.16560806 >>16560650 EN singers are doing better than Council at streaming.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:43:37 2022 No.16560811

Apparently Omocat accidentally used their spoilage reserve as part of their stock and is having some difficulties with restocking. I would love to see their numbers and what the turn around time on production is for them. You have to assume minimum 10k production runs right? What were their presale projections and are they kicking themselves for undershooting? Or is the scarcity effect working in their favor?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:43:49 2022 No.16560818 >>16560650 >Do holofags just not care about them? Council doesn't even care about Council.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:43:55 2022 No.16560822 >>16560650 No one cares about council. It's a fate worse than death, they just inspire nothing from most. No love. No hate. No passion. >>16560740 You won't find it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:44:40 2022 No.16560859 >>16560779 >being female in nijisanji It is a branding problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:44:52 2022 No.16560866 >>16560650 That's a sign that all the "criticism" are in fact "schizo ramblings" that people who are terminally /here/have convinced themselves are actually worth something

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:47:16 2022 No.16560960 >>16560779 >can we conclude that NijiEN females' low numbers is not a branding problem now? That is 100% a branding issue. Management are the ones who can fix it, not the talent.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:47:50 2022 No.16560986

>>16560650
The only 2 sites they will check are tweeter and plebbit, and there you can delete posts or ban people from saying mean things to you :(

EN had an initial wave of stigma because >not japanese, but they got molded into the mostly better versions we see today
Council is the shoe in, and it seems like only Bae is interested in bettering herself, and IRyS asks for feedback, which is why she's wanting to go from "Vsinger" exclusively, to "Vtuber/Vsinger"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:48:18 2022 No.16561006 >>16549324 Damn that Shark's numbers are out of this world.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:48:34 2022 No.16561018

>>16560866
No, it just means there is no impact to even be mentally ill about. Maybe I'm being harsh and they're good people who don't deserve being dumped on but that doesn't change the fact that few feel anything for them. Passion drives everything and when people see council they think "oh, it's them. okay, that's cool. when is hololive back on?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:48:55 2022 No.16561038 >>16559501 IRyS should be Kiara-levels of shameless when she promotes her songs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:48:56 2022 No.16561039 >>16560866 Sooner or later this place will become something like r/LSF but vtubers. I can understand why LSF streamers want to be banned. They want to rest but don't want to be seen as lazy by their fans so the ban is the way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:50:34 2022 No.16561105 >>16561018 >the fact that few feel anything for them. Passion drives everything and when people see council they think "oh, it's them. okay, that's cool. when is hololive back on?" Holy schizo. Get some help, retard.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:50:35 2022 No.16561106

>>16561018
>no impact to even be mentally ill about
He says when the catalogue is wall to wall with "why did council flop" threads.
Do you even fact check your own posts or do you need someone to educate you about how what goes on in your head is not the same thing as what is actually happening?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:50:39 2022 No.16561110 >>16560027 IRyS could unironically be all of that; she just can't stream as much because of her Vsinger shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:52:50 2022 No.16561198 You know what makes Council look worse? Vox is not even on the same level with Kronii.If Kronii read some fan twitter shits like Vox did,she could get far better number than him,like 14K CCV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:52:52 2022 No.16561199 Is Nacho still under CCVID? https://youtu.be/axiiktq19pk

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:54:21 2022 No.16561263 >>16561199 No that sounds about right for her

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:54:25 2022 No.16561265 >>16560027 >HoloEN needs to basically be NijiEN After so many impromptu collabs of the girls/guys shooting the shit, listening to Mori's teatime with Fauna and Sana felt like they were reading a PG rated script

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:54:26 2022 No.16561268 Oh hey, Mumei will stream after the premiere https://youtu.be/wFrMtF6wwHo 'Part I' too. second part will probably be a karaoke or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:54:44 2022 No.16561289 >>16560712 > They get relationship points. Maybe Aruran will bring up and push EN's 3D the next time he meets Yagoo. Unless he has tied with the prime minister of Japan, EN are not getting their 3D

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:56:08 2022 No.16561359 >>16561199 I don't know I was going to look up her numbers but then my dick smashed through the ceiling

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:56:35 2022 No.16561391 >>16561199 1.2k for a mama is extremely high. Look at Ayamy. Not everyone is Ui averaging 10k CCV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:56:38 2022 No.16561395 File: 518 KB, 1080x1135, 1642387823904.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16561263 This amount of likes used to give her 3k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:57:08 2022 No.16561425 >>16561038 My guess is that she doesn't feel as invested since she's not paying for any of it.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:57:23 2022 No.16561437

Hololive didn't go from zeros to heroes by taking it easy and not improving, they stood proudly on Sora's shoulders and worked harder and harder until they got their break. Council basks in the sun created by their seniors and know no darkness. I see more HoloJP in NijiEN than I do in HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:59:04 2022 No.16561511 >>16561265 They are working on it, Pizza Papa collab is first try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:59:05 2022 No.16561514 >>16561437 Decent analogy, but please bring numbers with you next time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 02:59:47 2022 No.16561548 >>16561437 Nigger this is not your 2view bitching ground, piss off

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:00:04 2022 No.16561564 15k waiting room for Moomer song

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:00:09 2022 No.16561570 >>16561437 I thought that said Zenos

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:00:10 2022 No.16561571 >>16561198 Pandering to coomers is only worth it if you truly need the number and Kronii doesn't need that much

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:00:10 2022 No.16561572 >>16561437 Did you failed EN2 audition or something? If so then I'm glad you're not in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:00:24 2022 No.16561592 >>16559885 This makes me laugh, does Councilfags really love to try and make their chuuba look good, cull vs uncull and remember it's council 1st outfit reveal LMAO

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:00:39 2022 No.16561614 >>16561437 nijien = holojp holoen = nijijp pretty much

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:01:01 2022 No.16561639 File: 199 KB, 842x217, 1614619389092.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:01:05 2022 No.16561647 >>16561564 16.5k before the cull started

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:01:11 2022 No.16561651 >>16561592 What kind of retard even types like this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:01:13 2022 No.16561652 File: 8 KB, 641x78, 5648949.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These many people waiting for anything HoloEN related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:01:36 2022 No.16561678 >>16561572 Councilfag is actually Fallenshadow. The Faunaschizo has been quiet ever since they decided to be schizo about Council as a whole instead. Stop lurking here Fallenshadow, it's bad for your depression.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:02:07 2022 No.16561702 >>16561511 If you think that's going to be anything resembling NijiEN you should think again. It'll likely be a pretty safe collab, if Ollie the crazy batshit wildcard doesn't do anything stupid that is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:02:33 2022 No.16561731 >>16561592 Jesus, this bitch is on the level as Orcschizo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:02:54 2022 No.16561755 >>16561639 >>16561652 It's might not even recover the waiting room for the premiere wtf

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:03:35 2022 No.16561800 >>16561678 Touched your nerve I guessed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:03:46 2022 No.16561808 Look how easy for holo en to mogged niji en hahahaha! Mumei alone rape everyone lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:04:43 2022 No.16561860 >>16561265 How about no? I watch twitch streamers like otk and otv for that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:06:02 2022 No.16561955 >>16561755(me) WTF it actually peaked at 15900 and didn't beat the waiting room. Susan fix your fucking website.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:06:41 2022 No.16562002 >>16561702 At least they are trying,remember Towa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:06:50 2022 No.16562012 File: 911 KB, 905x742, 1634391337802.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16561755 It didn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:07:22 2022 No.16562048 >>16561860 They don't have to anon, they just really should stop doing the ultra-filtered "casual chat" Then again the last time Mori and Ina were loose with their convo, everyone SEETHED

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:08:18 2022 No.16562112 >>16560650 I think people underestimate just how much Myth is loved. They have very hardcore fans that did not budge when Council debuted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:08:36 2022 No.16562129 >>16562012 The song just finished and it already has 16k likes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:08:40 2022 No.16562135 File: 1.08 MB, 1921x1079, 11785510805.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Rate it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:09:31 2022 No.16562188 >>16562002 Which one? The only one I have in mind is the recent stream with RPR and Ollie, that was fine, sort of. Ollie had the decency to make the joke when RPR was gone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:09:47 2022 No.16562206 >>16562135 Atelier Mumei/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:10:10 2022 No.16562233 >>16562012 What a beautiful Nike graph

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:10:46 2022 No.16562258 >>16562112 Myth had to work hard meanwhile Council debut with a silver spoon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:11:10 2022 No.16562284 >>16562112 they budged to VShojo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:11:56 2022 No.16562337 >>16562258 >myth had to work hard kek nice joke

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:11:56 2022 No.16562338 I imagine this song would've propelled Mumei ahead of Kronii if it were released 5 months ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:12:05 2022 No.16562349 >>16562012 That's normal for a 4 minute premiere

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:14:17 2022 No.16562474 youtube will pull out a slow cull and call it a natural disinterest in vtubers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:14:21 2022 No.16562481 >>16562338 it's not too late, song's fucking catchy. It is 50% jap tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:14:29 2022 No.16562487 >>16562338 Er, didn't they debut 4 months ago?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:14:46 2022 No.16562508 >>16562337 Come on, Myth did work hard until Council debut.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:14:59 2022 No.16562519 Hey, did Selen finally beat Sana? You guys kept complaining about Council, so I figured something must have triggered it. I'm not too worried about the males since the audience is different and they're not competing for each other's fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:15:08 2022 No.16562529 >>16562338 coming with an original at debut is hard. i think only kiara did that shit in her first 2 months

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:15:16 2022 No.16562535 >>16562487 Whatever, time is a concept

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:15:27 2022 No.16562545 >>16562508 I admit that they worked harder than council

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:15:37 2022 No.16562559
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>>16560676
>Not a Nijinigger
>Is a last samurai instead
Its not as bad as being a Nijinigger, but its pretty bad. I made it a point to member one from every branch since I'm not a tribalistic fag.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:15:59 2022 No.16562571

>>16562258
Dude that’s literally every gen past gen 4. Gen 5 post-aloe has been given the world and back in attempt to keep them afloat, being in practically every single event imaginable, outfits and accessories for days, constant collab opportunities and sponsorships left and right. If you think that’s enough, look at the star treatment gen 6 has gotten for literally just existing.

You can even branch that same logic out to council and ID2. ID2 performs so much better overall than ID1 and has far more presence in the scene, and council was given a ton of opportunities to make something (more) of themselves. It’s just the nature of being new in this company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:17:53 2022 No.16562687 >>16562338 >>16562535 >>16562258 >>16562337 NIGGER THIS IS THE NUMBERS THREAD NOT YOUR DUMPING GROUND FOR YOUR COMPLAINTS ABOUT COUNCIL FUCK OFF

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:18:26 2022 No.16562717 >>16562206 Fucking yea, I was struck by how much this sounded like an Atelier song, and its not as if the lyrics are out of place either. Hell, you could slot this into Atelier (Dusk) and I'd say "Yep, that sounds right".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:18:33 2022 No.16562725 >>16562687 learn to read seamonkey

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:18:46 2022 No.16562739 >>16562258 Myth had a silver spoon too. HoloJP had been cultivating an audience here for a while and Hololive was synonymous with vtubing before HoloEN was even being recruited for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:18:54 2022 No.16562744 >>16562571 Why are you seriously arguing with the jealous 2view?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:20:24 2022 No.16562812 >>16560676 how can you cum to fat cat if you use all your time to post bullshit about other girls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:20:44 2022 No.16562825 >>16562559 I do not hate HoloEN, I'm not a "last samurai" or anything schizo like that. I just find Council to be a failure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:21:27 2022 No.16562862 >>16562687 Okay lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:22:56 2022 No.16562934 >>16560779 luxiem success depends on SEA might as well make another chinese branch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:25:12 2022 No.16563034 >>16562812 I don't think it's bullshit. I just think it is an honest assessment of council and a little bit resentful that the brand has been damaged.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:27:29 2022 No.16563145 >>16563034 >brand has been damaged. Based on what assessment? Your salty ass? I'm actually starting to enjoy watching you seeth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:27:33 2022 No.16563148 >>16562338 She only started working on it a week before debut.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:31:55 2022 No.16563361
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>Nijisanji: Investing in technologies as the best tech vtuber agancy
>Hololive: Expand vtuber business through new business like Metaverse
>Vspo: Bringing vtuber scene and the e-sports scene together

>Vshojo:

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:32:42 2022 No.16563405 Looks like Gura is poised to reach 2x the sub count of the next highest Holo. Since she's also growing more than 2x as fast as Mori, she'll remain there for a while, at least until Fubuki passes Pekora and Mori.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:33:01 2022 No.16563424 >>16563145 I'm not seething. I'm just disappointed by the lack of ambition to further the brand, wasting resources, and not causing any passion to invigorate the fanbase. I feel like they're stealing from Cover with their behavior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:33:44 2022 No.16563459 >>16563361 Making dick joke great again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:34:43 2022 No.16563512 >>16561678 Oh looky here >>16562891 I guess Fallenshadow is indeed /here/

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:35:50 2022 No.16563561
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>>16563361
>Investing in technologies as the best tech vtuber agency
LMAO

You mean sucking zhang cock for chinese tech. Nijisanji's 3D isn't even that good anymore and Hololive has always had the better 3D models anyway. Nijisanji 3D models look like Endermen from Minecraft.

Get bent Nijinigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:36:15 2022 No.16563579 >>16563361 >>Vshojo: sucking sodas dick dry and joking about having him as a e-celeb followed by implying your coworkers also have hidden boyfriends so younshouldnt be mad just at her.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:37:20 2022 No.16563630

>>16563424
>Lack of ambition
That' sfair
>Stealing resources
? That's a weird way to look at it, it's not like they're providing EN with a particularly large amount outside of salaries, and that applies for Myth as well.
>Lack of passion
Look, now you're starting to proje-
>STEALING from Cover
Okay, look. There's 'These are reasonable things to be concerned about' and then there's 'I need some meds' territory buddy, and you're veering pretty hard into the latter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:38:10 2022 No.16563666 >>16563630 At this point I'm pretty sure she's someone who failed the en 2 audition and is seething here as a coping mechanism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:38:59 2022 No.16563712 >>16563361 Making react content great again!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:39:46 2022 No.16563753 >>16563424 I hope you realize that's all Covers fault for looking for numbers. Now the "damage" is done there is nothing you can do about it. Seething about them is just free exposure and the best way to keep their relevance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:41:16 2022 No.16563824 >>16563424 >Underperformance = stealing from Cover. What sort of slippery slope fallacy is this? Are you an idiot?

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:41:34 2022 No.16563838

>>16563753
>Seething about them is just free exposure and the best way to keep their relevance.
And? I would be delighted if they did something. I would be over the moon if they were something to care about.
>>16563630
Okay, we don't have to agree but spots are limited so there is a profit loss if someone isn't up to par or provides something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:41:39 2022 No.16563847 >>16563361 Veibae's collabing with OTK member in LOL rn. They're expanding vtubers in the normie market inaccessible to the other companies

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:43:39 2022 No.16563951

>>16562825
Failure would mean that the completely flopped, which is far from true. They pull in a lot of money when you look at their total SC and memberships, and I would say how much they're earning is a good indication of whether they flopped or not. Not Myth level, but definetly not even close flopped levels. Complaints about their ambition are valid though, I will admit to that as I am also a bit dissapointed in how little they stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:45:25 2022 No.16564049 >>16563824 If Cover sets their standards low, that's on them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:48:29 2022 No.16564202 >>16563847 Normalfag market joining is almost always a bad thing for anyone that enjoyed the hobby before the normalfags flood in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:49:03 2022 No.16564227 >>16563951 Their CCV is not up to par, their SCs are abysmal, and they are just not available. They're not bad people, they just need to be handed their walking papers and become persona non grata.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:51:00 2022 No.16564332 File: 127 KB, 1175x867, rosemi graph.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not sure why people keep replyung to the anti council schizo Anyways back to some numebrs Selene and rosemi graphs seems to show some ccvid yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:52:30 2022 No.16564416 You guys know responding to him with sound arguments is a waste of time right? Just call him a retard every time he posts if you can't resist and ignore his retarded ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:52:41 2022 No.16564423 >>16564332 Yea. It's definitely a case of "people got unflagged and now they're being reflagged". Only this time it's EN that had a relay over JP first, so we'll probably see -30-50% in a week and a half if this shit starts to get out of hand. Again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:54:18 2022 No.16564498 >>16564227 Who are you comparing their CCV and SC to when you say it is not up to par?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:54:28 2022 No.16564508 >>16564332 Sometimes its not CCVID, hard recovery to waiting rooms existed before during multi pov collabs like among us. Some people have all 3 povs open in the waiting room, but aren't counted once they start verifying viewers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:55:36 2022 No.16564563 >>16560650 >Anon still think opinions /here/ is worth anything Unironically look at a mirror and ask yourself what have you done in your life to reach this point

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:55:37 2022 No.16564564 Nepotism, good or bad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:55:38 2022 No.16564566 >>16564508 which is a new development but taking this long to recover is new however it also seems random Fauna didnt have it for her house flip stream today but did for thee skyrim one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:57:09 2022 No.16564645 >>16564564 all JP nepos have been great

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:57:30 2022 No.16564667 >>16564332 Less than 5k total for a 6m celebration seems pretty bad. Luca alone is getting 3k playing a mario game during burger hours.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:58:12 2022 No.16564706

>>16557841
Catch 22
They need to improve CCV to get higher VOD growth for the algorithm to pick them up and feeds them to other people. They need to algorithm to pick them up so that they can get better VOD so that their CCV improves.

They literally really big people to should them out.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 03:59:10 2022 No.16564748

>>16564564
Neutral. The fortune 50 company I work for always asks for recs before they go on a hiring spree.
>>16564667
IRyS got 16k, which isn't great either.
>>16564498
HoloX. I was fine with council since I thought the holo market peaked and then HoloX blew my mind. I can't feel anything but resentment for how they tanked hololive in the west.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:00:50 2022 No.16564841

>>16560986
>The only 2 sites they will check are tweeter and plebbit, and there you can delete posts or ban people from saying mean things to you :(

Yes, as oppose to /here/? Anon, even people /here/ know that this god forsaken site is the last place you want if "better yourself" is the goal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:03:52 2022 No.16565002 >>16564841 There are retards here who unironically think /vt/is the only place for real, unsugarcoated criticism for chuubas. Kinda like how some people think they're locked in an mental asylum because the world isn't ready for their genius.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:04:11 2022 No.16565016 >>16564841 But it's fun /here/ It's hard to have fun on those sites since they're so serious. I don't want people to ego search here though, vtubers should be banned from 4channel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:06:29 2022 No.16565164 File: 489 KB, 1551x890, 1621035699111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this shit ain't moving

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:07:10 2022 No.16565199 >>16565164 Views probably got frozen, wait a few hours or so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:07:18 2022 No.16565204 >>16565016 But Anon, I won't be able tovtease Reimu anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:07:50 2022 No.16565231 >>16565164 It's in verification hell. I'm not sure what the hell YT did recently but all the processing for views and shit seems kinda fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:08:53 2022 No.16565283 >>16565231 By trying to fix their issue they made even more issues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:09:39 2022 No.16565315 >>16565164 Shit song not worth repeating it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:11:01 2022 No.16565380 >>16564748 Hey, I also compared Eden Gumi and all of NijiEN, ID, KR to HoloX, and determined that they are all fucking failures compared to HoloX. Pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:11:33 2022 No.16565404 Mumei is motivated...............

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:14:59 2022 No.16565591 >>16565164 Usually freezes like this are a good sign since it means so many people have watched it that they think it's suspicious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:18:43 2022 No.16565815 Not a surprise, but Mumei's A new start has passed Spark of Joy in likes after 1 hour. (36k VS 35k)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:19:45 2022 No.16565876 >>16565380 >compared Eden Gumi and all of NijiEN, ID, KR to HoloX It isn't fair to compare Nijisanji to HoloX. HoloX debuted in 2021 Council debuted in 2021 They are both hololive They should be at the same level.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:19:47 2022 No.16565880 >>16565404 Its good sign.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:20:55 2022 No.16565933

interesting info
Cover send mumeiher song in all japanese. The reason it took so long to come out is because she wanted at elast half be in english so she was working with mori all this months on it to get the lyrics and vocals.
Im assuming kronis is in a similar spot and that is why it took so long to come out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:21:04 2022 No.16565943 >>16565404 SO she finished with exams is what she's saying

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:23:25 2022 No.16566062 >>16565815 IRyS is hard debuffed by being the Vsinger. Any future candidates should fight hard to just be a normal holomem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:23:35 2022 No.16566072 >>16565933 So ... hiring English songwriter in Japan is not easy? They got Mori sure, but she's only 1 person

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:24:36 2022 No.16566126 >>16566072 anything ENGLISH in japan is not easy. is still fucking retarded imo but is japanese management so it is expected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:25:00 2022 No.16566143 >>16565876 >They should be at the same level inb4 gen 5 vs myth

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:26:12 2022 No.16566203 >>16565876 >gen 5 debuted in 2020 >get spoonfed tons of sponsorships and collabs in an attempt to get them to succeed >still flops >myth debuted in 2020 >get fucking nothing >still mogs gen 5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:27:02 2022 No.16566245 >Mumei has no idea how much it cost I guess Cover funded the whole song

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:27:48 2022 No.16566288 >>16565933 >Cover send

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:28:07 2022 No.16566303 >>16566245 we know from moona that cover gives a certain budget for original songs... didn't think it was enough to make one with an mv of this quality though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:29:09 2022 No.16566361 >>16566143 kek They keep underestimating the massive impact of a graduation at the beginning of their debut

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:29:50 2022 No.16566409 File: 604 KB, 1280x467, 1636691301296.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16566203 >>16566143 Takes them you schizos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:30:09 2022 No.16566436 >>16566303 I think she said she splurged on the MV because she might as well have something to show for delay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:31:48 2022 No.16566527 >>16566436 Ah, that would make sense then. >>16565876 That's making the very faulty assumption that the EN market and the JP market for vtubers are the same. They are not, for assorted reasons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:33:40 2022 No.16566628 >>16565876 EN and JP have different audience. Gen 5 vs Selejo Gen 6 vs Edengumi Myth and Council vs Niji EN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:33:43 2022 No.16566631 >>16566072 They can hire any writer/composer you want yourself just like Marine/Calli does. I don't know why they entrust Cover with everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:34:31 2022 No.16566667 >>16566628 >Council vs Niji EN The day to day stuff NijiEN is winning if you measure peaks and SCs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:35:32 2022 No.16566729 >>16566631 Unlike Marine and Mori, Mumei most likely doesn't know who can make song for her so she just left it to Cover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:36:04 2022 No.16566754 >>16566527 >>16566628 They're not the same because the EN market is smaller since anime is a niche outside of Japan. Which makes Myth and Council outperforming gen 5 that much more impressive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:37:13 2022 No.16566809 >>16566754 Council outperforming gen 5? How exactly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:37:52 2022 No.16566837 File: 320 KB, 420x420, disgusted_Mio.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16566754 >Council >outperforming gen 5 >Council

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:37:57 2022 No.16566847 >>16563838 That's not stealing. Your feeling might be in the right ballpark, but the semantics can get you labeled as a schizo t. fellow "schizo"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:38:03 2022 No.16566854 >>16566754 Myth sure. Council, debatable, don't treat it as a total domination. And no, I doubt most EN fans were anime fans prior to this, them being anime related or not doesn't have a lot of weight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:40:51 2022 No.16566994 >>16565164 Clearly normal to have 7,000 more likes than views.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:41:04 2022 No.16567004 >>16566667 Are you the retard that thinks winning one day and losing the next 5 means you are "winning"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:42:11 2022 No.16567051 Mysta schedule is out. Of course , he is pulling more genshit.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:42:30 2022 No.16567066

>>16566809
>>16566837
>>16566854
If you compare the amount of support given to holoEN vs JP gen 5 it's clear even Council are doing better on a pound for pound basis. Not to mention the viewership cull for EN means they're actually higher than they seem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:43:18 2022 No.16567106 >>16567066 the cull cope again...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:44:08 2022 No.16567139 >>16567066 Should graduate one of their chubbas on debut and see how well they fair. Also, what support?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:44:21 2022 No.16567149 File: 1.08 MB, 1400x1400, FJRkH1CXMAAsnpH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16567051 You make it sound like its the whole week

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:45:03 2022 No.16567185 >>16567149 >British ASMR wh...

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:45:07 2022 No.16567188

>>16566361
cover shoveled them enough shit to keep them afloat that a graduation shouldn't even matter yet myth is doing leagues better with a fraction of the resources, do you think that's fair they continue to give a shit gen like gen 5 sponsorships while EN are mostly ignored? how long does it have to be before a company says enough is enough and stops investing in a gen that's by all accounts failed to live up to the hype?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:45:33 2022 No.16567208 >>16567149 What does british asmr mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:45:54 2022 No.16567234 >>16567185 Well,15K

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:46:24 2022 No.16567272 Millie opened memberships? Anyone know what the membership numbers are compared to Mysta's?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:46:45 2022 No.16567288 >>16567149 >birthday already kek they really want to squeeze the jp fujos before they go huh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:47:27 2022 No.16567323 >>16567149 >Birthday the fuck lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:47:27 2022 No.16567324 >>16567149 variety is really dead with him and voxx but they are going for the fujos so not a lot of choice. Milk them while they still can >>16567234 nah vox asmr wasnt big in numbers a joke asmr has no chance either

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:47:40 2022 No.16567345 [DELETED]

>>16567149
>birthday
Could be interesting to see his SCs and numbers, manjisanjj Bday SCs get pretty wild.
For ccv, >>16567185
I think he can get 20k if he makes it a totsu.
Didn't Selen get 7k doing a bday totsu? Mysta already gets 3x her numbers so it's not impossible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:47:52 2022 No.16567356 File: 12 KB, 841x95, 1637819040504.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yuge gains

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:48:38 2022 No.16567398 >>16567288 They need to recoup the cost of wave 3 somehow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:49:03 2022 No.16567427 File: 31 KB, 379x283, 6mo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Happy 6 months I guess? 6 hours worth of albeit pay then enikara gets half oof

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:49:12 2022 No.16567429 File: 31 KB, 128x128, 1629755524634.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why's the gen 5 schizo out in full force today? Did something fucking happen that I might have completely missed or did Wamy's ASMR last night hurt his feelings

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:49:35 2022 No.16567449

>>16567149
>birthday
Could be interesting to see his SCs and numbers, manjisanjj Bday SCs get pretty wild.
For ccv,
I think he can get 20k if he makes it a totsu.
Didn't Selen get 7k doing a bday totsu? Mysta already gets 3x her numbers so it's not impossible

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:49:40 2022 No.16567454 >>16567345 >I think he can get 20k if he makes it a totsu. where do you peple even come with this absurd expectations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:50:57 2022 No.16567535 >>16567356 That's a lot of rapist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:51:04 2022 No.16567543 >>16567323 Why Niji always set birthdays after debuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:51:51 2022 No.16567602 >>16567188 In what way exactly is EN "ignored", Gen 5 Schizo? Japanese and English sponsorships are not interchangeable.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:51:51 2022 No.16567601

>>16567188
Pull up the sponsorship chart and point out how unfair it is then. Also, sponsorships varies a lot depending on the sponsor, it's not entirely because of "Cover wants gen 5 to live so they're giving them tons of sponsors", who knows how many sponsorships Ame and Gura shot down because they didn't want to take them?
The rest is simply the side benefits of being in the main branch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:52:00 2022 No.16567611 >>16567454 Expectations get to absurd if he keeps breaking them. I'm not saying he will get 20k, but he has a chance. Vox and Mysta have better numbers now than their first week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:52:04 2022 No.16567616 >>16567543 Milk the debut buff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:52:26 2022 No.16567634 >t chan mods the whole reddit >is responsible for multiple karaoke captions and translations >subbed mumei's song on 5am jst I hope cover at least pay the workaholic good wages.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:53:06 2022 No.16567671 >>16567543 They need to pay the debut fee anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:53:09 2022 No.16567674 >>16567449 >I think he can get 20k if he makes it a totsu. pls anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:53:54 2022 No.16567711 >>16567634 A mod getting payed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:55:43 2022 No.16567813 >>16567611 his memebership numbers were low as fuck you pople dont understand what makes a stream get big numbers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:57:40 2022 No.16567918 >>16567813 Nigger you can't even spell, don't try to lecture me on numberfagging when Luxiem is clearly inclining. Keep underestimating them and it'll bite you in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:59:43 2022 No.16568012 >>16567813 No, "low as fuck" would be like Reimu's membership opening stream, where she got less than 200 members. Mysta at least broke 1k.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 04:59:51 2022 No.16568017 >>16567918 are you the same fucking idiot that predicted 15k on his memebership open stream? Do you expect vox next genshin stream to get 10k because he played dolls house today too? You are just maing everyone that follows them look bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:00:54 2022 No.16568056 >>16567711 Anon, with Cover's experience on fan based moderation in Bilibili, I'd be unsurprised if its a literal cover employee

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:00:58 2022 No.16568058 >>16566303 Cover pay for the music of the Original song but the talents still have to pay for the MV themselves.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:01:04 2022 No.16568066 How long until moom gets 1 mill?

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:01:06 2022 No.16568067

>>16567813
According to whatever membership statistics we have, Watame has the 4th most memberships in Hololive.
Number of members, especially on a membership announcement stream, don't have much to do with how big the numbers can get for special streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:03:13 2022 No.16568150 >>16568012 im talking in comparision to his hype. But yeah 1k is ok but even pomu got more than that. >>16568067 his ccv was still low for that stream. We also have voxx asmr as precedent

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:06:26 2022 No.16568295
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>>16568017
No. My prediction: >>16558293
His membership stream getting 7.7k CCV is higher than I expected considering these streams usually do asscheeks.
Look at Irys's one month after her debut.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:07:35 2022 No.16568334 >>16568295 That one was pretty much guerilla though. As soon as her memebership was ready she pretty much threw up the frame and opened it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:08:56 2022 No.16568378 >>16568334 With heavy overlap too, doesn't change that membership opening streams usually do poorly because only people who are interested in membering will show up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:10:11 2022 No.16568431 >>16567454 /#/ is always wrong when predicting numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:10:11 2022 No.16568430 >>16568378 So then for Mysta, his fujos showed up to hear him talk but only 1k actually decided to member him?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:11:41 2022 No.16568498 >>16568431 hey, i'm bretty goo at calling numbers given the wait room

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:11:49 2022 No.16568502

>>16568295
That was a guerrila sanwiched between other streams.
Mysta changed his apex stream half a day before and also had his stream run for far longer.
>>16568378
the kind of streams the fujos show up to is limited but i guess is somting people will ave to learn here by force and get grudgeposted later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:12:51 2022 No.16568551 >>16567634 T-chan is a faggot though. They are just a corporate mule.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:13:12 2022 No.16568565 Gura doesnt stream. Kronii doesnt stream. HoloEN Bros... Kneeling to Luxiam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:13:14 2022 No.16568566 File: 709 KB, 1551x956, 1623843900656.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyways, this already escaped pre-verify hell and it's now on stair purgatory

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:14:50 2022 No.16568643 Mysta's low membership could mean viewers just like the fujo bait and not dedicated enough to follow everything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:15:32 2022 No.16568676 >>16568643 it think a bunch of anons have said it, fujos wont stay in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:16:22 2022 No.16568710 Where are the reasonable posters? Why is this place filled with baits?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:17:02 2022 No.16568734 >>16568710 Dead hours

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:17:11 2022 No.16568741 >>16568676 Yea. What he wants to cultivate are Yumejo and gachis asap so he can keep the money-train rolling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:17:38 2022 No.16568764 >>16568643 it's edengumi all over again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:18:03 2022 No.16568778 >>16568676 But between donations and membership, which is more important? I feel like they can still get more money through donations than membership anyway. Viewers will likely throw at them.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:18:20 2022 No.16568787
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>>16568502
Are all of these also guerilla streams then?
No matter how you warp it, Mysta's CCV stream was very good for a membership opening stream.

>the kind of streams the fujos show up to is limited
You think a birthday totsu is the type of stream that fujos won't show up to?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:18:38 2022 No.16568800 >>16568012 She got more than 200 in her membership anon. That's how fast she unlocked all the 20 emotes she comissioned thinking it'd take more time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:19:15 2022 No.16568829 >>16568710 What? This thread is the best it has ever been since 3 days ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:19:35 2022 No.16568841 >>16568676 jop tourists

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:22:33 2022 No.16568928

>>16568676
>fujos wont stay in the long run.
Fujos/women don't watch FPS streams, but they show up for special streams/events to throw cash.

Do you think Fuwa's $7k last night was from bros throwing money at him for winning CR cup?
Where did Lauren's $60k birthday SC come from when his CCV had already dropped to 3k by then?
We have multiple Nijimales that prove females don't completely disappear, they just don't watch shooters.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:23:12 2022 No.16568952

>>16568778
That really depends on how many members they have. Kronii had at minimum 8k at one point, so at least 40k per month if you go by the standard 5 bucks. The holo members have multiple tiers in membership though, so who knows how much they make in total.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:23:53 2022 No.16568974 >>16568928 Isn’t the issue that most of his fujos don’t know what he’s saying?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:24:03 2022 No.16568982 File: 225 KB, 875x1310, 2022wk2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last week's superchats, still missing Ui who should be #2

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:24:34 2022 No.16569003

>>16568778
depends on your goal. if you want a loyal fanbase then membership and a regular income stream. If you want money in short but big bursts then SC.

>>16568928
those are jp fujos that UNDERSTAND the nijiJP language. Most fujos dont undertsand a think voxx or mysta are saying a lot of their SC is deepl.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:25:44 2022 No.16569047 >Mysta's low membership could mean Isn't this a nature of SEA audience? They love free contents cuz poor af, but they never pay for it usually so that's why they only play f2p mobile games. Atleast Fujos aren't those type of persons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:26:04 2022 No.16569057 >>16568800 Ah, then that means she probably opened the membership during pre-chat then. During the actual stream she gained less than 200.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:26:23 2022 No.16569067

What I think people underestimate is that Edengumi manages to cultivate fujos because Niji main branch shill hard fo them with merch, posters in public places and other big event appearances.

It's crazy how the Niji main branch is not even showing an ounce of care into further promoting NijiEN males despite their good views. Like, nothing in the main channel, nothing in big events. Hololive at least constantly tries to include everyone despite their viewership and popularity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:26:45 2022 No.16569084 >>16568150 >1k That makes no sense because Mysta said he had 39 extra emote slots during the stream. That would put him past 3k at the least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:26:52 2022 No.16569086 File: 2.78 MB, 3004x2124, FJRW_D0aIAUjdMQ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1482940748349599753

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:27:35 2022 No.16569111 >>16569084 an anon here scrapped the chat. And got 1k. He did the same for pomu and got 1.5k

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:29:40 2022 No.16569188

>>16568974
>>16569003
EOPs superchat JP Holos all the time. The language barrier isn't as big of an issue as you think it is.
Ike and Vox are literally #3 and #4 on the SC list this week >>16568982

I'm not even talking about how much money they make or how long will the JP women stay.
I'm saying he has a chance at big numbers for his birthday THIS WEEK because Mysta is hot shit RIGHT NOW.
I don't give a fuck how much he makes for his bday or if his next bday will get the same numbers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:29:40 2022 No.16569187 >>16568982 >2 niji homos in the top 5 jesus fuck lonely chink women i kneel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:31:30 2022 No.16569251 >>16569067 This reminds me of when Holo did that whole big Hololive event thing on the street with Mikodanye, there were big posters, banners and graphics of HoloEN and HoloID on the street. That looked really cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:32:27 2022 No.16569278 >>16569084 Either the scrapper messed up or lots of people membered in pre-chat then. 3k sounds more in-line with 7k people watching a membership opening stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:32:44 2022 No.16569292 >>16569067 hey but at least they have voice packs r-right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:34:44 2022 No.16569355 I feel like NijiEN males need to come up with a way to foster dedicated fans. Because high sc means you're hot shit now, but it won't be like that in the future. A good number of membership will guarantee you become hot shit a the rest of your career.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:36:00 2022 No.16569398

>>16569067
>It's crazy how the Niji main branch is not even showing an ounce of care into further promoting NijiEN males despite their good views. Like, nothing in the main channel, nothing in big events.
Have they even debuted for more than a month yet?
At least, they got acrylic stands pretty quickly like Edengumi did.

It's also not a great look to give them preferential treatment when many of the NijiEN girls haven't been given shit for months.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:36:40 2022 No.16569423 >>16569251 Don't forget they also had the stars

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:36:59 2022 No.16569434

>>16569188
>EOPs superchat JP Holos all the time.
becasue weebs a re a different breed than asians regarding foreign culture. eops discovering hololive is a very different from another case whicih was jops discovering mizkif animal crossing videos. you can compare jops watching foreigners to eops doing it.

>I'm saying he has a chance at big numbers for his birthday THIS WEEK
and im saying 20k is delusional
he went from 13k wtih cooking simulator to JUST scraping 10k with first timegenshin.
Ike with 4 luxiem memebers got 7 ccv too so unles he is kissing everyone on his stream 20k is out of question.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:37:29 2022 No.16569445 >>16569292 I swear to god, it's like everything in Nijisanji is built with "instant gratification" in mind. Everything is quick, cheap, fast but all low quality. Is this what a company built by a zoomer feels like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:37:59 2022 No.16569470 >>16569047 im guessing his demographic is mostly from Asia. 60-70% Asia Japan Taiwan Indonesia Philippines Malaysia Thailand Vietnam Hong Kong 20% others 10% NA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:38:19 2022 No.16569482 >>16569278 there is no way 2k membered in prechat waiting room was sub2k before starting. it would also mean that more people memebered on prechat than in the stream and the stream lasted 3 hours.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:39:11 2022 No.16569520
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>>16569470
Gura

26.2% America
12.6% Japan
8.8% Taiwan
6.4% Indonesia
5% Philippines
3% Canada
3% Malaysia
2.7% Thailand
2.6% Russia
2.4% Hong Kong
2.2% UK
1.7% Germany
1.7% Mexico
1.7% Vietnam
1.6% Brazil
1.6% Australia
1.2% Chile
0.9% Others

30% Asia
29% NA
28% Others
13% Japan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:39:22 2022 No.16569524 >>16569423 Yes, they included Stars too. They didn't have to, but they did anyway. I just don't get the reluctance of Niji main branch to not include at least some of their foreign branches into anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:40:20 2022 No.16569559 >>16569520 Ms. Worldwide indeed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:40:32 2022 No.16569566 >>16569470 Why are NA women not interested in them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:40:48 2022 No.16569581 >>16569434 *you cant compare jops watching foreigners to eops doing it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:41:56 2022 No.16569629 >>16569278 Are you really extrapolating membership numbers using CCV

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:42:29 2022 No.16569651 >>16569520 1.2% Australia 0.9% Chile 16.3% Other fixed

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:42:36 2022 No.16569657

>>16569434
> you can compare jops watching foreigners to eops doing it.
I'm assuming you're saying "can't". Proofread your shit before you press post ffs.
And no, we see HoloENs getting loads of Korean SCs right now despite also not knowing what they're saying.
Chinese/taiwanese people donate shittons to HoloJPs despite also not knowing Japanese.

>and im saying 20k is delusional
It's a bold prediction that he likely won't reach, but if it's a totsu, 15k is the lowest I'll predict.
He did get 13k with 2 people calling in during cooking simulator just last week.
Even Selen got 7k with a birthday totsu.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:43:06 2022 No.16569683

>>16568982
January superchats so far
>Chloe - $74,979
>Pekora - $68,918
>Rushia - $64,228
>Koyori - $57,423
>Iroha - $50,657
>Matsuri - $48,343
>Towa - $42,825
>Miko - $37,172
>Mori - $36,215
>Watame - $35,832
>Subaru - $35,719
>Lamy - $35,657
>Nene - $34,120
>Ike - $32,886
>kson - $31,643
>Lui - $31,350
>Luna - $31,189
>Vox - $30,984
Looking like another strong month already

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:43:36 2022 No.16569701 >>16569520 Is this for 2021?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:44:21 2022 No.16569725 >>16569683 Rushia also still have birthday this month.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:46:08 2022 No.16569787 >>16569520 Wait what, this is actually interesting information. Where can I find this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:46:13 2022 No.16569790 >>16569683 >Top 10 is all Hololive Incredible, the not only managed to find not one but three superchat monster to replace Coco

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:46:17 2022 No.16569796 >>16569701 2020 I think

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:47:04 2022 No.16569833

>>16569629
I mean, the alternative would be Mysta lying about how many membership slots he has, which I don't see why he would.
>>16569482
>Are you really extrapolating membership numbers using CCV
No. It's just highly unlikely for him to get less memberships than Pomu despite having 3x her viewership.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:47:57 2022 No.16569869 >>16569524 Maybe the foreign branches haven't proven themselves "real" yet.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:48:36 2022 No.16569894

>>16569111
>>16569278
>>16569482
Went back to check, about 25 minutes in to the stream he checked and said he had "39 Extra emote slots". That means either 39 on top of the slots he already filled or 39 in total. 39 in total would at the least be 2,800 members, but the stream lasted 3 hours and that was only 25 minutes in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:48:54 2022 No.16569904 >>16569796 It's from november 2021. I was the one who shared it here btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:48:57 2022 No.16569907 >>16553143 >>16553384 The YouTube algorithm prefers to recommend channels that are already growing fast, so they end up just growing even faster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:49:46 2022 No.16569943 >>16569683 Pink Lamy I fucking kneel

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:51:30 2022 No.16570015

>>16569869
How real do you think NijiEN will have to prove more? They get higher viewership than many Niji veterans already. There are barely any Niji members who can get 15k, let alone 20k these days unless it's a big event.

NijiEN males have only existed for a month and they're already surpassing every single expectation. The only thing they can prove is sold out merch other than voice packs and stands. Nijisanji will sooner or later acknowledge them, whether they like it or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:51:54 2022 No.16570027 >>16569524 Nijisanji had a music project for their 3rd anniversary and they had EN, CN, ID, and KR versions of 2 of their songs. Finana did Virtual Strike and Elira did Trial and Error. https://music.nijisanji.jp/palette/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:52:10 2022 No.16570040 >>16569683 >absolute addicted to streaming >also a sc monster and they dare to say the pink dog was a bad hire...

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:52:35 2022 No.16570057

>>16569657
>we see HoloENs getting loads of Korean SCs right now despite also not knowing what they're saying.
becasue english education is really common on southkorea so is easy for them to listen to them even if they arent fluen. And weeb culture is prominend on HK to TW so they are similar to the west in that regard.
>>16569657
>Selen got 7k with a birthday totsu.
selene got 8k by getting samshed on a stream with alcohol. What gets people into a stream isnt calls for nijiEN they do that sit all the time. it depends entirely on what he does for his birthday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:53:51 2022 No.16570101 >>16569904 So the data is from November 2021. Interesting, that's a really big split for her viewership being worldwide. Is this for just live-viewing or overall channel viewership (including VODS?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:54:13 2022 No.16570114 >>16569278 Members joining during stream, according to the chat log. You're welcome to validate it: ghostbin.com/Y54Pl

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:56:16 2022 No.16570190 https://www.joysound.com/web/s/campaign/1200/index

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:57:00 2022 No.16570212 >>16570057 Still gonna be a totsu, maybe add in oliver and his genmates to the totsu since it's JP time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:57:12 2022 No.16570219 >>16569725 last year she got 58k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:57:31 2022 No.16570230 >>16570190 At this rate, it's more of a slap in the face if your music doesn't get added to Joysound.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:57:49 2022 No.16570243

>>16569894
Did he say "unlocked" emotes or just extra emote slots becasue another 39 would put them over 5k memebers and you will need to have called support already to unlock those extra 3 since the limit is 49 for 4.8k memebers.Prbably was just tlaking about ow many emotes he coul have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:59:34 2022 No.16570315 >>16570015 Maybe nijisanji we're hoping for near myth numbers for nijiEN. Wave 4 is only one month old, give it time to see if the don't crash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 05:59:46 2022 No.16570323 >>16570027 Kek, where are NijiEN, ID, KR posters in Niji expo? Where are they during NYE events? Where are they during concerts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:00:29 2022 No.16570347 >>16570114 >ownership Jesas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:00:36 2022 No.16570352 >>16570015 >NijiEN males have only existed for a month and they're already surpassing every single expectation ah yes the 5 mystas

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:00:55 2022 No.16570364 >>16570315 Let's see if new costumes can bring them to 50k CCV

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:01:56 2022 No.16570408 >>16570352 The other 3 are doing spectacular as well dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:02:14 2022 No.16570421 >>16569683 I almost feel bad for rubbing salt in the wound but Council's second month for comparison >Kronii -- $28,125 >Fauna - $17,804 >Baelz - $13,504 >Sana - $10,363 >Mumei - $9,807

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:02:23 2022 No.16570427 >>16570040 Pink dog works hard,maintains decent ccv and get good SC.More importantly,she is a Boxpusher. If Council has someone like her...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:02:43 2022 No.16570444 >>16570114 That explains it then. It's too late now but I'm pretty sure his members post had already passed 1k thumbs up before he even streamed. >>16570243 He specifically said he had "39 extra emote slots".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:02:44 2022 No.16570446 >>16570408 compared to the nijien girls only.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:03:29 2022 No.16570474 >>16567356 >Last day 16k >Last 7days 18k >=34k >Last 30days 30k Huh?

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:03:35 2022 No.16570475

>>16570352
>they're already surpassing every single expectation
Do you even remember the expectations people had for NijiEN males?
Anons here were expecting them to flop even harder than Wave 3 did and right now, even the worst NijiEN male is doing better than Selen.

Shu thirdwheeled his way into Petra and Elira's Getting over it race yesterday and he beat them both in CCV once he started his stream.

They didn't need to be 5 Mystas to beat expectations, 5 Lucas would already be beating expectations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:03:48 2022 No.16570487 >>16570421 Council doesnt care about Council. They deserve it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:04:15 2022 No.16570508 >>16570444 >He specifically said he had "39 extra emote slots". then he is lying or just being bad with words or do you think he has 5k memebers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:04:22 2022 No.16570513 >>16570364 The niji girls? No. Sana couldn't get 30k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:05:43 2022 No.16570564 >>16570474 anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:05:51 2022 No.16570567 >>16570421 Holy shit even fucking Lui is getting more than Kronii

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:06:08 2022 No.16570578 >>16570364 NijiJP female veterans liek Saku and Shiina can't get 50k CCV on a costume reveal wtf

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:06:27 2022 No.16570588 >>16570101 Should've come from overall audience analytics. If you want to check it yourself: https://litter.catbox.moe/jeerld.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:08:14 2022 No.16570645 >NijiEN with almost 7K watching. >HoloEN (and Hololive as a whole) with 0 people watching Damn, Niji seems to be getting further and further head.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:08:24 2022 No.16570654

>>16569520
Watch device stats seem to be:
>53% "cellphones" - presumably smartphones, but the kanji is for cellphones.
>34% PC
>7% Tablets (these are separate from phones..?)
>3% Game consoles
>3% TVs? Smart TVs?

My only question is - does the ~34% PC viewership correlate with either the 2020 or 2021 cull rates?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:08:36 2022 No.16570666 >>16569086 Goddamit! I really wanna watch that Role:Play live!!! Aaaaaaa open the border already!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:08:51 2022 No.16570675 >>16570190 Doesn't joysound release demographic data?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:10:20 2022 No.16570720 >>16570588 Kinda worried how you got your hands on this anon, but thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:10:34 2022 No.16570736 File: 15 KB, 218x245, Robe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16570645 ogey. Also, how rude, son is part of Hololive as well.

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:10:50 2022 No.16570746

>>16570588
>Overall audience analytics
Well, that definitely confirms the conjecture that Gura's worldwide fanbase is response for her large VOD growth, and also why despite having as many subs as she does, her live viewership is 'only' "good" instead of "the best". That's a very large chunk of the audience that isn't in NA primetime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:12:02 2022 No.16570784 >>16570508 >do you think he has 5k memebers? iunno, is it that hard to believe someone who is hot shit right now got a lot of members when there's still hype?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:12:08 2022 No.16570789 >>16570746 Yup, Aussie here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:12:15 2022 No.16570791 File: 1.72 MB, 220x220, 1623253098116.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16570474 anon pls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:13:06 2022 No.16570826 >>16570784 well we got the scrapping and is just 1k so it is not a lot of members

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:13:09 2022 No.16570829 >>16570475 Correct, NijiEN males are doing well and that's why I respect them more. Pomucucks and Dragoonfags were hyping their oshis in this thread when they haven't reached the same level of success that the boys are doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:15:09 2022 No.16570911 >>16570645 HoloEN should do their job, but they let Lamy stream in EN time slot for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:15:16 2022 No.16570915 >>16570789 gura is good for lunch in AU

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:15:31 2022 No.16570927 >>16570784 sorry anon but I only believe numbers I can check

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:15:43 2022 No.16570936

>>16570508
Doubt he's lying, but if you think it was just him being bad with words, we can guess at the least he had 3k+ by the end of that stream. Definitely not 1k, going by the mount of likes and comments he got on his membership post and the amount of engagement he got on his membership ad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:16:09 2022 No.16570961 https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1482959542451605507 Holo EN-ID Pokemon tournament

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:16:34 2022 No.16570972 >>16570826 >>16570927 Guess we'll need to wait for someone who is in Mysta's membership to show us how many likes he has on his members post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:17:36 2022 No.16571022 NEXT THREAD >>16570925 >>16570925 >>16570925

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:17:49 2022 No.16571030 >>16570936 >mount of likes and comments he got on his membership post post them

Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:18:03 2022 No.16571038

>>16570829
Surprisingly, I don't see a lot of Pomufags and/or Selenniggers anymore. I thought there absence would be covered up by an increase in Nijihomo posting but even that has been a lot tamer than expected. I'd even say that most conversations about them have been civil for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:18:37 2022 No.16571055 >>16570961 Ah the Sana cup

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:19:14 2022 No.16571082 >>16571038 They know they've been mogged so they're lying low in order to attract less attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:19:42 2022 No.16571104 >>16571038 Can't beat the dick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:20:43 2022 No.16571144 >>16570936 then post it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:21:39 2022 No.16571183 I have not been able to keep up to date with vtubers these past few months. what's the current record for most viewers stream and the highest superchat in one stream?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:21:46 2022 No.16571192 >>16570961 Congrats to Sana

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:22:12 2022 No.16571216 >>16571183 >most viewers stream Coco >the highest superchat in one stream Coco

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:22:27 2022 No.16571224 >>16571082 That didn't stop them from shitposting before lest we forgot how dragoons were talking up Selen getting 3-5k as some achievement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:23:16 2022 No.16571254 >>16570654 Wasn't the cull for EN overall 36%? But Gura alone was culled almost in half.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:23:35 2022 No.16571266 >>16570588 That's a lot of youtube subs and twitter follower graphs, looks like they care quite a bit about these things. They also point out the VOD views of sponsored streams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:23:58 2022 No.16571283 >>16571082 >>16571224 Did the dragon beat sana?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:24:27 2022 No.16571300 >>16571283 Selenfags aren't celebrating, so I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:25:18 2022 No.16571335 >>16570961 I hope its annually

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:25:37 2022 No.16571348 >>16569445 Accelerate!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:25:42 2022 No.16571354 >>16570961 No homos?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:27:04 2022 No.16571418 >>16569445 >Voicepacks > Everything is quick, cheap, fast Hahaha... I'm still waiting for Ame's voicepack from her charity stream goals...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:27:54 2022 No.16571449 >>16571418 It's coming out right after her Korean steam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:28:33 2022 No.16571471 >>16571283 Nope. Despite all of the debuffs, Sana still bested Selen in December I believe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:30:19 2022 No.16571533 >>16571471 Wow. Hopefully she has a chance in January.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:30:21 2022 No.16571535 Why aren't people shitposting NijiEN vs HoloEN now? NijiEN is at its strongest right now. Was it really the Selen fans or Pomu fans stirring up shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:31:22 2022 No.16571568 >>16571533 Sana just had an outfit reveal. I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:32:04 2022 No.16571593 >>16571535 The boys are below mumei. The girls are below sana

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 17 06:32:54 2022 No.16571621 >>16571535 >people expecting 20k from mysta and voxx is a more subtle kind of shitposting.

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