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16658384 No.16658384 [Reply] [Original]

Why doesn't she just go the Kson route? She doesn't need Hololive anymore and she'd clearly be happier as an indie on Twitch.

>> No.16658457

rent free

>> No.16658466

>>16658384
I mean it's pretty obvious that is her endgame, I'm just not sure how much longer she plans to milk Hololive.

>> No.16658476

Contracts.
We have no idea how much Cover is covering her music production.

>> No.16658502

>>16658384
kson is bordering on become a 5view

>> No.16658553

>>16658384
She never needed Hololive, which is why she treats them like garbage

>> No.16658573

>>16658384
>>16658466
Oh and by Kson I assume you mean just being her real identity, she's not going to be some indie vtuber. You're retarded if you think that, she hates vtubing. She's just going to go back to her real persona that she maintains and bring her cuckbeats with her.

>> No.16658588

>>16658384
We can only hope she goes soon

>> No.16658589

She still gets more money this way.

>> No.16658653

Because she obviously thinks Connor is right and that she would instantly fall back into irrelevancy if she didn't have the Hololive brand behind her.

>> No.16658660

>>16658553
>She never needed Hololive
She needed it to further her music career, nothing more

>> No.16658682

>>16658553
She did need someone to fund her and legitimize her wasted life, what she didn't need was a vtubing company to do it because she was never aiming to be a vtuber. That's why she sees them as beneath her, because they take vtubing seriously.

>> No.16658687 [DELETED] 

Thread deleted in 3 2 1...

>> No.16658738

>>16658384
Shes just using cover to boost her roommates channel/career deadbeats mean nothing to her in all honesty she is worse than fucking Ina at least Ina had the nerve to admit what she thinks about her fans unlike Pinkhaired lesbo

>> No.16658749

>>16658384
In due time. She's only using Hololive as a stepping stone for her music career. Once she's satisfied and can't milk deadbeats anymore she'll quit and ghost Kiara and the rest of her "friends" forever.

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>>16658687
AHEM *ting ting ting* meidos are fags

>> No.16658751

>>16658384
She absolutely needs the Hololive branding but luckily she has gotten so high on her own farts that she now legitimately thinks she doesn't which means that what she's doing right now is obviously her trying to lay the groundwork for becoming an indie.
We just need to be patient and we'll be free from her bros.
How much more damage she'll cause the brand in the meantime is anyone's guess tho.

>> No.16658776 [DELETED] 

>>16658687
Why only Cali and Ina anti threads are deleted

>> No.16658791 [DELETED] 

>>16658750
Enjoy your ban.

>> No.16658846

>>16658776
It says a lot about their fanbase. Sensitive snowflakes that can't handle the truth

>> No.16658924

>>16658776
Deadbeats are mass reporting.

>> No.16658957

>>16658384
HoloMyth 3D guarantees a huge amount of numbers and exposure and they're all clearly aiming to use that momentum to catapult their indie careers (At least 4/5 of them, Gura seems to be happy where she is)

>> No.16659074

>>16658687
>>16658776
Read the rules dipshit.
>Rule #4: Any negative or shameful thread about HololiveEN's Mori Calliope is strictly prohibited.

>> No.16659075

>>16658776
Cuckbeats are on full damage control

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16659101

>>16658687
AHEM *ting ting ting*
Meidos are STILL giant fags

>> No.16659133

>>16658957
Ame is happy too. She love hololive and will never leave gura alone

>> No.16659166

>>16658776
Just go Anti in the Mori general since that's the only Mori related thread not getting pruned

>> No.16659171

>>16658957
Huh? How does this affect Ina's career? Nobody's going to hire her to draw based on her singing and dancing skills. As for Kiara, I'm pretty sure she's accepted her relevance is over when she graduates and she's going back to how it was before. I don't know about Ame though.

>> No.16659176

>>16658384
It's been a year and a half and people are STILL mad at Pink Woman. I'm actually impressed.

>> No.16659212

>>16658384
She will stay until the 3D since that will be her most viewed stream of all time

>> No.16659220 [DELETED] 

just report

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>>16658384
>Why doesn't she just go the Kson route?
Uh... Bros...?

>> No.16659246

>>16659176
What do you want them to do, redirect their anger towards someone undeserving?

>> No.16659271

>>16658957
Ina's roommate already had a successful career before hololive.
I think hololive is more of a way to talk to something that's not a moldy dish for her.

>> No.16659341

>>16658384
She absolutely does need hololive. Literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about this dumb roastie cunt.

>> No.16659387

So we're just gonna be the Mori Yab board now?

>> No.16659400 [DELETED] 

just report anti threads

>> No.16659402

>>16659271
Why do you faggots keep acting like the inordinate amounts of money from the gig is irrelevant to her just because she's had a successful career before it?

>> No.16659405

>>16658653
He is right

>> No.16659447

>>16659133
Didn't she attempt to revive her roommate account last month?

>> No.16659486

>>16659447
Kiara does it so why can't the others?

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>>16658924
>>16659075
>>16658846
Hey, i ain't doing anything. In my opinion i wish this board would be pink again like back in June.

>> No.16659506

>>16659405
yeah, that's the problem. That's why Connor won't publically apologize, and why she keeps defending him... he's right. The Hololive brand is massive, much more important than any individual talent, as KSON is now proving. He was an asshole for saying it, but he's not wrong.

>> No.16659518

>>16659400
>>>/reddit/

>> No.16659538

>>16658384
not yet, probably by year 3 or 4 she will consider quitting hololive, gotta save up all the superchat money first, by the time she's ready to leave, she will probably have a couple million saved to enjoy life and live comfy

>> No.16659559

>>16659486
The only one without a roommate with recent activity now is Gura, and I feel sad for her knowing that she'll likely be the last Myth

>> No.16659597

>>16658653
Not instantly but yes she'd fall from where she is now to a mediocre Twitch streamer that still made a decent living but who's music mostly got ignored.

>> No.16659610

>>16659402
Do you even know how much money a corpo artist can make? Considering she did work for splome pretty big clients, money was certainly not an issue

>> No.16659655

>>16659506
He's not technically wrong, joining popular company = boost, but the implication is that people in hololive have no talent and survive based on the popularity of the brand.
And he could have said "any vtuber that joins a big company", but he mentioned hololive. Anyone who joins VShoujo will have thousands of viewers too.

>> No.16659670

>>16659402
I mean it is irrelevant to her since she doesn't even pay attention to her money and is completely provided for by her family. It will benefit her when she retires but she isn't thinking that far ahead.

>> No.16659697

>>16658751
She actually thinks people watch her mostly because of her music and not because she's a big titty anime girl with gap moe.

>> No.16659716

>>16659271
Did Ina make anywhere near a smuch money before?

>> No.16659763

>>16659538
She wastes her money on her awful music, she'll have nothing because she thinks her music career will carry her and this is an investment into that.

>> No.16659861

>>16658384
Hopefully she does soon. She's only using Hololive to promote and boost her shit music anyway. She hates vtubing and doesn't give a shit about her fans. She's better off graduating and doing her own thing, and taking deadbeats with her.

>> No.16659864

>>16659559
Can't blame them. Who knows how long any of them will be here for, it's in their best interest to continue to be active somewhere else or at least have a Kson situation.

>> No.16659881

>>16659716
Holomems don't really earn that much. Ina is the smallest earner in Myth. I don't think her earnings increased much

>> No.16659906

>>16659716
No but why would that matter when she doesn't even spend it? She still lives with her parents and barely leaves her mold-encrusted room. Not exactly the kind of person that would be worried about thwir finances 30 tears down the line.

>> No.16659963

we're doing this shit again? did she even say anything to set it off this time?

>> No.16660015

>>16659559
Ame Ame Ame...

>> No.16660115

>>16659881
>Holomems don't really earn that much
>buy house
>go in expensive vacation once a month
>buy car
>spend thousands on gacha
???

>> No.16660127

>>16659861
I hate to think of what it would do to Myth to be honest, like their group moral.

Aside from these times when Mori shows her clear delusions of herself as a good musician who's more than her Vtubing career I actually like what she contributes to her gen and the character she plays.

>> No.16660130

>>16659963
Just fuck off and shut your mouth if you're this out of the loop

>> No.16660163

>>16659559
>Gura still the best EN
I literally can't stop winning when I choose an oshi

>> No.16660169

>>16660015
Yes, Ame's roommate is coming back. And knowing the amount of work she puts into her projects with little to no management intervention she's likely thinking of leaving and taking all those connections with her

>> No.16660222

>>16658384
So you're one of the faggots who made her do this, OP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM

That's hilarious, not saying anything else

>> No.16660230

>>16660127
I'd like to think they could all breath a sigh of relief and finally stop walking on eggshells but it's probably far too late for that. The way she constantly embarrasses them has got to be taxing.

>> No.16660231

>>16660127
Literally the only thing of any value she's provided throughout her career is the TTRPG which is most likely not even going to be finished anymore.

>> No.16660265

>>16660231
and she just stole that idea from fubuki anyways

>> No.16660272

>>16659716
Yes, as a Chinese prostitute

>> No.16660280

>>16658687
Still waiting

>> No.16660299

>>16659447
No. She did not. Stop lying.

>> No.16660314

>>16660115
well, after they spend it all on stupid gacha shit and flashy vacations there's not much left.

>> No.16660318

What kson did worked for her because her main talent and goal is to milk millions of dollars from her gachis until the end of time, and she can still do that just as well in or out of Hololive. Mori clearly wants to be taken seriously as a musician, but cringe wigger weeb rap will never ever be taken seriously outside of the relatively small niche of vtubing. It's fairly obvious that she hates her gilded cage and her ultimate goal is to make it big on her own, but it's never going to happen and I don't see her succeeding if she tries. No doubt all the doxbeats will follow her and keep her propped up financially though.

>> No.16660321

>>16658384
She doesn't want to show her honkadonkas on stream.

>> No.16660341

>>16660299
Yes she did

>> No.16660356

>>16660115
joke's on you
they spend it all only on gachas

>> No.16660383

>>16660231
Myth or treat, Journey like a thousand years, mumei's song, every intro animation, mv's, etc

>> No.16660434

>>16658384
She's not just a whore, she's a dumb whore. That's the difference between her and Coco

>> No.16660440

>>16658553
You're retarded if you think she'd have her current level of success without joining hololive

>> No.16660468

>>16660318
That might be why she's been latching on to jazz recently.

>> No.16660469

>>16660318
>but cringe wigger weeb rap will never ever be taken seriously outside of the relatively smal
It is not the 2000s anymore gramps. Anime is mainstream AF now. She could be Huge.

>> No.16660592

>>16660469
>you must be 18 to use this website

>> No.16660599

>>16660469
Maybe there is a place for weird weeb rap but there is no place for the mediocre kind of weeb rap Mori does. I honestly don't know how anyone can listen to her rap and not cringe from second hand embarassment.

>> No.16660614

>>16659271
Literally the reason she applied was because she had hit a wall artistically and wanted something new to occupy herself

>> No.16660620

>>16658776
It really engages your brain cells

>> No.16660636

>>16660469
Anime has been mainstream in japan for decades and no one taken weeb rap seriously.
Good luck trying to sell that shit outside of japan where nigger rap dominates.

>> No.16660652

>>16660599
She is very good from a technical perspectiva though.

>> No.16660661

>>16660614
Wasn't the reason that she's a socially awkward hikki looking for friends?

>> No.16660671

>>16659655
He fell for the "vshojo = indies" meme so in order to suck up to them he had to contrast them with the evil "corpo tubers". And nobody gives a fuck about Manjisanji so there's only one choice.

>> No.16660692

>>16660163
Stay winning king.

>> No.16660699

finna ride into compton blastin my mori raps to show niggas what real rap is like

>> No.16660749

>>16660652
No she isn't.
You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.16660761

>>16660652
She's okay. She's obviously practiced a lot but she just doesn't have any talent and her delivery is pure cringe.

>> No.16660772

>>16660127
We don't really know what goes behind the scenes, but realistically I feel like the rest of Myth sides with Mori

>> No.16660808

>>16660661
HAHAHA, idiots believe that lie from indies a lot but hiw the fuck did you believe it from a Holo? If they were socially awkward they wouldn't be on stage, the word they mean is la,y

>> No.16660815

>>16660318
>join popular vtuber group
>hate all the restrictions despite all the high monetary benefits
yeah, that's women alright, at least the "damaged" ones. It's not hard to just shut up, entertain and rake in the money, is it? I guess it's pointless to apply a male's logic to this because I honestly don't understand women

>> No.16660834

>>16660749
Not an argument. I want to see your analysis, ignoramus.

>> No.16660875

>>16660772
To one degree or another all of them are frustrated with the way they have to limit themselves because of Cover.

If there was a situation were Mori were to be forced out by management I'm pretty sure there is a decent chance all of them leave and Ame makes her own company with them.

>> No.16660877

>>16659402
It's not irrelevant to her because she had a successful career before, it's irrelevant to her because her family is already rich.

>> No.16660909

>>16660808
Streaming and "being on stage" are two very different things.

>> No.16660910

>>16660875
Why would ame leave? She barely even interacts with mori

>> No.16660926

>>16660772
The rest of Myth has no fucking idea what's going on and they don't want to. None of them are actually friends you know but I'm sure Mori isn't at the top of all their lists as someone to rely on or look to for support.

>> No.16660952

>>16660815
Is it that hard to understand? I would also be annoyed by restrictions, even if I understood that they were logically necessary. Like asking for game permissions and getting denied must be incredibly frustrating.

>> No.16660953

>>16660599
If the mainstream could be judged by quality, then mumble rap and dubstep would've never become mainstream. Ultimately it just depends on the trends of the time. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean the mainstream will share your opinion.

>> No.16660955

>>16660699
>yo finna stop that gay shit cuh. where the fuck do you even find that shit anyway senpai?
>anon shows Mori to the group of enraged african americans
>anon dies due to blood loss in a gang related drive-by

>> No.16660956

>>16660808
Standing is stage performing from a room by yourself and a couple of assistants is different from having to communicate with a fellow human being retard-kun

>> No.16660987

>>16660910
Frustration over the limitations set by management and loyalty to her genmates (maybe friendship).

>> No.16661014

>>16660955
>Weebs retaliate and start a gang war in LA

>> No.16661034

>>16660652
Hello, you're wrong. Mori always adds way too many syllables to a verse and it messes up her flow and sounds like shit. She is not untalented, but she clearly has a lot of room for improvement in order to make her raps more lyrically sound and have better flow. For reference, listen to Watsky and Eminem, both white rappers who masterfully craft their rhymes, they're always staying on the beat, and never overstuff their verses like Calli.

>> No.16661036

>>16660875
>all of them
Kek

>> No.16661039

>>16659405
Even if he's 100% right that every EN chuuba is a talentless brand whore, it still takes an extremely shit person to, as a member herself, bend over backwards to defend the person that said so. Even going so far as to send a $200 supa to that person. It's hard to imagine she doesn't share his opinion

>> No.16661055

>>16660272
>prostitute
She's Korean, so it's called "comfort woman".

>> No.16661080

>>16658384
Indies have to do a shitton on their own, while in a company the company takes care of all that.

>> No.16661081

>>16658653
>>16659506
>>16659655
>>16660671
when did he say this shit I guess I'm out of the loop

>> No.16661089

>>16661036
That or Mori will try to expose them as the "fake friends who turned their back on me"

>> No.16661093

>>16658384
Man you schizos are out in force today?
She didn't read your cringy red superchat? Are you that sad a little man.

>> No.16661095

>>16660955
Why is the short version of "family" replaced by senpai?

>> No.16661103

>>16661036
Maybe not Ina but the rest has voiced frustration.

>> No.16661110

>>16660875
I think that's a fair trade-off if it means Mori's gone. I don't actually believe all of them would do it though, that seems unrealistic. Otherwise JP would also have had mass exoduses unless you somehow think Myth are closer friends than people who actually live together.

>> No.16661115

>>16660987
what limitations are put on ame that she so desperately hates?
what loyalty when the girls aren't even friends with each other behind the scenes

>> No.16661136

>>16660468
What? Explain this

>> No.16661148

>>16659405
We've been over this. It's not about him being right or wrong. Mori has a duty to defend her employer and her fellow employees in public, even if she privately agrees with him, or at the very least not say anything and not give him a platform if she can't bring herself to lie.

>> No.16661151

>>16661095
Because we don't want that nigger shit here. This is an anime website.

>> No.16661164

>>16659506
I can publicly say all kinds of true things and get vilified for it. And anyone that defends me will be assumed to be in agreement

>> No.16661169

>>16661095
Wordfilter cause everyone used to use it.

>> No.16661193

>>16661115
>what loyalty when the girls aren't even friends with each other behind the scenes
What is your evidence that backs up that claim?

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>>16660987
>loyalty to her genmates (maybe friendship)

>> No.16661264

>>16661095
Same reason why the short forms of "to be honest" and "shake my head" are wordfiltered. It's Twitter slang. AAVE Twitter slang as a matter of fact, although that doesn't mean much because everyone born in the last 20 years wants to speak like a nigger for some reason.
These filters have been in place since 2014 or 2015, I can't recall. You should know this.

>> No.16661267

>>16661193
They don't even interact with each other unless they have a work related reason
I bet you think that pekora and aqua are friends too

>> No.16661277

>>16661193
Literally every single thing they've ever said or done. Oh wait, you think because people are friendly with their co-workers while on the job that means they would throw away their own life for the sake of some person they've never even met who talks mad shit behind their back.

>> No.16661337

>>16660987
she's the one unable to make any deep conection with anybody because of her autism

>> No.16661356

>>16661110
>>16661115
They all have complained about permissions, lack of access to proper 3D (Ame would have just comissioned that shit herself if she was allowed), collab partners being denied, having to check up on stream ideas and apparently even issues related to their music as with Ame's latest song she was planning to release.

I don't actually know about how close they are with each other but I doubt they're all totally faking being friends.

Also these are western women, for better or worse less willing to be bossed around than their Japanese counterparts.

>> No.16661366

>>16661193
>This is your mind on cuckoldry

>> No.16661402

>>16658502
I mean according to playboard she's made 500k already with one of her last streams making over 4k. If I was a 5 view with that much, I'd be pretty happy honestly.

>> No.16661449

>>16660772
Retard

>> No.16661485

>>16660772
>>16660875
She's publicly humiliating each and every member of Hololive by maintaining a relationship with a man that seriously mocked them as talentless without him issuing a public apology.

Do you delusional faggots really think Myth is on friendly terms with her?

>> No.16661503

>>16660875
>Ame makes her own company
kek

>> No.16661512

>>16661356
Those little complaints are not enough reason to jump ship anon, especially with mori situation or if she jumped ship. Kiara and ina would voice some concern now and then, Ame will go on with her usual self, and gura will notice it months after

>> No.16661530

>>16661485
None of this shit would have happened if calli had acted less retarded on stream

>> No.16661542

what does everyone here think of nino? i hear about everyone else on myth except her is she the only good EN with gura?

>> No.16661565

>western shit
graduate all of them for all i care.
even better, go to nijisanji.
the sooner we rid of EOPs, the better.

>> No.16661575

>>16661356
>apply for the biggest vtuber corp on the planet
>surprised that you have to obey corporate rules
Literally western woman moment

Permissions aren't even hard to get, just don't be an autist and message your manager.
NijiEN mogs holoen on permissions

>> No.16661579

>>16661485
I don't watch trash taste because those guys are all faggots with shit opinions and have been way before their podcast, what exactly did Connor say can someone fill me in and where does Mori come into all of this?

>> No.16661597

>>16660987
Nah. She was about to give up on streaming, appling to hololive was her last ditch effort to make something of it. I'm not saying she wouldn't quit if she got sick of it but she'd be the last to leave

>> No.16661642

>>16661081
He was on Ironmouse's stream, I think shortly after Vshojo opened auditions, and they were musing about people who lie during auditions and applications. Connor said something like joining Hololive automatically gives someone an immediate huge audience. He was specifically talking about why someone might be incentivized to lie during an audition to a big company like hololive, but the clip that was going around cut out that first part of the conversation.

>> No.16661676

>>16661579
Connor has shit-talked vtubing for a long time. He's also friends with Calli.

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>>16660875
>decent chance all of them leave
>Ame makes her own company
RUMAO ANON! Wtf did you smoke!??

>> No.16661690

>>16661542
Gura, Ame and Ina are the ones you want to watch if you want to stay away from any stupid shit
Kiara and Mori are just walking mistakes

>> No.16661734

>>16661579
https://streamable.com/652h75 all here

>> No.16661742

>>16661565
>go to nijisanji.
This. Let's see how well the bronies will take it.

>> No.16661744

>>16660341
Did not

>> No.16661774

>>16661579
He said Hololive will guarantee a certain amount of viewership and success even without the streamers talent being a consideration, which is true.

If you want to hear it that way you can interpret it as him saying every holochuuba is a talentless whore or you can interpret it as the true statement it was. the vague phrasing of it is what really was the fuck up. He apparently apologized two Myth in privat for not being clear on what he meant.

>> No.16661782

>>16661690
>Gura, Ame and Ina are the ones you want to watch if you want to stay away from any stupid shit
They are the only true holoens

>> No.16661823

>>16661575
Absolutely with you anon but I don't think they all see it that way.

>> No.16661834

>>16661642
>>16661774
Why are you faggots lying?

>> No.16661851

>>16661774
That is absolutely, 200% true, and if you want to argue just look at the omegatranny's account.

>> No.16661864

>>16658957
>At least 4/5 of them, Gura seems to be happy where she is

Funny you say this, but Gura will be the most successful indie out of them

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>>16658553
>She never needed Hololive, which is why she treats them like garbage
why are deadbraps like this?
she would be a no one without hololive

>> No.16661876

>>16661834
Why what did you hear him say? I'm only aware of what I said.

>> No.16661880

>>16661834
Lying about what?

>> No.16661886

>>16661744
I get you don't want to look up roommate stuff but yes she did

>> No.16661895

>>16661356
Cover doesn't let them do shit for their own sake. They aren't stupid enough to trust a bunch of dumb women with decision making.

>> No.16661903

>>16661874
Delete that image, he's racist and supports 1/6

>> No.16661930
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>>16661774
Yeah Connor is a retard and I despise him for other reasons but he had a point here that he just made in a shitty way.

The real slander was Joey's deranged rant about Nene and her husbands.

>> No.16661985

>>16661081
He didn't since /vt/ is incapable of seeking the full clip instead of the short version that lacks full context of him explaining what he actually meant after Mouse interjects and gives her opinion.
>spoonfeed
No, this is months old and only brought up now for rrat purposes.

>> No.16662003

>>16661930
I'm just gonna guess, he tried to spin the husbands joke into some dark psycho-social addiction thing?

>> No.16662004

>>16661530
Yes I agree but also none of it would have happened if she had ceased public interaction with someone who is a known harmful quantity to her career after several examples of him being a sociopathic clout chasing groomer. Ame, Kiara and Gura were smart enough to shut him down, Moona and Ollie were slow but eventually wised up, Mori inexplicably refuses to distance herself

>> No.16662005

>>16661690
I don't like Kiara that much, but she does care about hololive and her genmates
The wigger is the walking mistake

>> No.16662030

>>16660875
>decent chance all of them leave and Ame makes her own company
Do deadcucks really?

>> No.16662053

>>16659405
he is right only to an extent
there are genuinely talented people who MADE hololive popular in the first place like aqua, fubuki, rushia, pekora, marine, suisei and a few more who are way more charismatic than grifter like connor can imagine.

like their popularity doesnt come from a fluke

>> No.16662060

>>16661356
They already do what they want in comparison to their Japanese counterparts and I think all four of them besides Mori are intelligent enough to understand there's a list of pros and cons or they would have already left a long time ago. And a lot of them are already phoning it in most of the time, the idea that you think they've just got all this pent-up energy to start everything over again seems a little naïve. They have nothing to gain from that.

>> No.16662068

>>16662030
Watch it happen.

>> No.16662084

>>16660169
what's this roomate you fags are talking about? Im a newfag btw

>> No.16662102

>>16660875
>there is a decent chance all of them leave and Ame makes her own company with them.
can i have some of what he's smoking too?

>> No.16662128

>>16661930
someone should translate it to jp so we can sleep peacefully knowing that there never will be a collab between holo and those faggots

>> No.16662129

>>16661985
yeah I just watched the clip which is from a fucking old stream that I just forgot about which is referencing an ancient stream that I also forgot about. these rrat faggots are fucking retarded

>> No.16662143

>>16658384
Mori hates vtubing. I thought she got into it at the midway point and recognized it made her who she is, but recent events have proven that she has learned absolutely nothing and has nothing to offer to the realm of vtubing. She's stuck in a position where she's getting insane amounts of exposure, popularity and money, but hates it because it doesn't truly masturbate her ego. She is at heart a basic bitch that wants her face and person plastered across media and wants people to recognize her in the street. In short she wants to be a Hollywood type of celebrity. And that's completely at odds with vtubing.

She essentially showcased that she doesn't give a single fuck about being an idol and treating her audience right, and I fail to see why people still tolerate and watch her. She's just exploiting you for your money and attention BUT EVEN THAT isn't enough for her because she wants a different kind of fame, a different kind of audience, and a different way of life. She is 100% a basic bitch and a thot, because a normal girl or a girl with an iota of sense in her would go "Holy shit these people like me! Holy shit they're giving me money for entertaining them! Oh man, I shouldn't fuck this up, I should really look up what I can and cannot do and what the audience expects of me."

She didn't do any of that. Quite the opposite. She's directly insulting you after all you've given her and is telling you that you don't matter to her at all, because there's this rando Chad and other random males (probably) and vtubing is so cringe bro there's beta males and like, stuff you know. There's even obligations and norms! There's even a culture! She's a Western thot as is acting like one - "Give me everything and be happy I'm taking it loser."

Bitch, everything you have is due to your fans. You're nothing without them. And you still have the gall to complain and go cunting about because it's not the "right kind" of fame and attention you wanted. How shit can you be? There's millions or entertainers and people desperately doing their best in a desperate effort to succeed and you had it handed to you on a platter, and you still fucking complain and shit on your fans. You're now angry at them for not wanting to prep your bull. What the fuck? What the fuuuck?

>> No.16662171

>>16662053
He didn't say everyone in a popular company is untalented, just that you get a big boost for joining one, whether you're talented or not, which is true. it's true for Vshoujo as well. If Vshoujo hires that beewitch girl she'd gonna get a huge boost. Anyone except people like Snuffy/Haruka that are already orbiters would get that boost.

>> No.16662237

>>16661642
Yes just a slip of the tongue taken out of context, that's why mousey TWICE had to pump the brakes on the conversation to stop him. This is nothing new for him; he's consistently shit on the vtuber/virtual idol scene, what made this so egregious was him directly insulting the girls themselves. If you defend him you're automatically an antituber with him, full stop

>> No.16662245

>>16662143
/thread

>> No.16662246

>>16662143
Deadbraps will call this a schizo post but I see no lies being said here.

>> No.16662285

>>16658384
i've yet to see any good argument against this. honestly the sooner the better since it will only make everybody happy. her fans can be cuck without getting hate, holofags can stop dealing with e-celeb drama, myth can interact with each other much more freely with one pain in the ass gone. overall, the only downside is the drama that will ensue but coco shows graduation can be done properly

>> No.16662292

>>16662068
>all the worst EN holos leave EN
>They make their own company that'll tank/never see the same numbers
Wtf we win no matter what

>> No.16662295

>>16662143
Something something shes gonna pull a Joji

>> No.16662306

>>16662237
There are girls who are bad streamers in hololive or atleast not deserving of the fame they have. So no, what he said was correct, he just phrased it badly.

>> No.16662315

>>16661930
Wait-wait-wait-wait-wait, hold up; sorry, but the FUCK did Joey say about Nene?!

>> No.16662338

After seeing what Mori said I think she should definitely be suspended. Not to mention she lied. How would Connor even know how to contact everyone in EN?

>> No.16662386

>>16661503
he means Ame with the whole Myth. Plausible, well if that Melody fag did it, why can't the whole Myth? But they prolly all have to move to burger land first

>> No.16662394

>>16662171
The issue is that he used Hololive as the best example for the hypothetical which really just makes his hypothetical lose all credibility.
For a hypothetical to be good, you need to have at least a tiny bit of realism in it. Hell, it still sucks cause unlike actual proper financial corpos, vtuber corpos need to carefully vet every application.

>> No.16662396

>>16661880
You're lying about it being taken out of context. He has a long history of disdain for the industry, he's long since eroded any benefit of doubt

>> No.16662400

>>16662315
Nene is an evil witch who robs poor anons dry by roping them in with gfe. Completely missing the joke.

>> No.16662415

>>16662143
based

>> No.16662428

>>16662143
This is just true

>> No.16662437

>>16662306
name 1 that's not mori

>> No.16662446

>>16662338
Twitter DMs or he just added them on Discord?

>> No.16662449

>>16662003
Yep; paired with some hysteria over womens body image issues being exacerbated by Nene making it into a dumb list of female influencers in fucking Playboy Japan

>> No.16662488

>>16662143
lmao, every single thing you said is a lie. A basic bitch does not goes "all in" to make it in japan.
she had plenty of fans before
Furthermore she has said herself she likes vtubing, that she loves deadbeats and appreciates them.

>> No.16662493

>>16662003
>>16662315
remember a couple months ago when nene appeared as the token vtuber in a "30 female influencers under 30" showcase in a magazine? joey went schizo over this, said that this is proof that 2d women are replacing 3d women and that otaku culture will make japan go extinct, also thought that nene calling her subs husbands was serious and insidious

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>>16662143
/thread

>> No.16662534

>>16662449
Oh yeah i heard about that one.
It wasn't even a list of hottest women, it was a list of most influental women
But that's what happens when you have a bunch of retards making commentary about japan despite not knowing the language after years of living there.

>> No.16662539

>>16662143
Positively based

>> No.16662550

>>16662488
>Furthermore she has said herself she likes vtubing, that she loves deadbeats and appreciates them.
This is your brain on deadbrap
Don't be like this poor fucker

>> No.16662551

>>16662143
Basedposter please

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>>16662488
>Cuckbeats actually believe this

>> No.16662582

>>16662437
Anya and Sana now. And a lot of them when they first debut. Most of EN was terrible for the first couple months.

>> No.16662584

>>16662306
People like you defending him are the biggest retards because just like your oshi, you keep defending the vague idea that yes there are a lot of undeserving Holos while truly believing Mori isn't exactly what he was accidentally describing. She hates vtubing and doesn't even want this to be what she's known for and because of the Hololive backing her and cushioning her from all the self-sabotage she's extremely successful anyway. She fell into this whole thing ass backwards, she is what he was complaining about (unwittingly).

>> No.16662591

>>16662143
Holy based

>> No.16662604

>>16662338
and yet management is letting her run free, but also they let the rest of EN shit on them with no repercussions so this might not be surprising

>> No.16662607

>>16662143
We could have had Pomu but Yagoo passed her over for manlet milker Mori what a fucking waste

>> No.16662610

>>16658384
>Everything was hard for her

>> No.16662644

>>16662610
No just Connors cock

>> No.16662646

>>16662446
That's not how any of that works. People within Hololive needed managers to get in contact with other people in Hololive.

>> No.16662653

>>16662584
I'm not a deadbeat. I think Mori's attitude stinks and that she's an ungrateful bitch but what Connor said is still true, even if she doesn't realize it applies to her more than most people in Hololive.

>> No.16662672

>>16658476
I mean, the girls pretty much said their music's fundings came from their pockets. Even their streaming layout
What Cover gaves them was the push for succes
Also, apparently their contracts have ended so they renewed...or Mori just negotiated for a shorter contract and that's why managers don't even bother with this, because she will leavd soon.

>> No.16662674

>>16661034
Could you give some examples of her adding too many syllables and messing up her flow?

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>>16662488
>spoiler
Why do doxbeats love lying so much?

>> No.16662690

>>16662646
I don't think that's really necessary but if you want to hear a version were that is relevant Connor asks people from Bookwalker or Kadokawa to establish contact with Hololive managers they would have had contact with already via the Mori collab.

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>>16662143
My... My knees are moving on their own

>> No.16662696

>>16658738
>Lesbo
T.hreadwatcher

>> No.16662722

>>16658738
>lesbo
holy shit do you think takamori is real too?

>> No.16662740

>>16662696
Your right shes clearly fucking Connor I apologize

>> No.16662746

>>16662687
LOL

>> No.16662759

>>16662534
Joey knows the language, but he's a hafu and that makes him very resentful. He is the essence of ywnbj which is why he's in the expats club.

>> No.16662764

>>16662143
the characterization of her wanting it to be her real face and real self is total bullshit and just projecting some r9k shit unrelated to her problem. you don't have to be a doxxbeat to know how nonsensical that is with her personal history. even currently that doesn't make sense. unlike other holos she's not active at all with her roommate accounts and even they barely pertain to her real life self.
her problem has nothing to do with the 2d avatar. her problem is she can't handle the idol aspect of being a virtual idol. if she was just a vtuber she'd be happy, but she works for a virtual *idol* company and has been incapable of maintaining idol kayfabe since the moment she debuted. that's her entire problem. she doesn't want to be an idol and spergs out when people point out her failing at her one job.
It is an ego problem, but it stems from her fixation on needing to be a cool 100% real and honest rapper. You could have figured this all out from just her debut. You don't even need to watch her to know this.

>> No.16662773

>>16662722
See
>>16662740

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>>16662143

>> No.16662778

>>16662582
This.
Even now half of en doesn't regularly stream, they struggle making a schedule for their week of 90 minute to 2 hour streams.

>> No.16662810

Cover should Graduate all of EN gen 1 except Gura. Publicly blame Mori too.

>> No.16662821

>>16662764
>unlike other holos she's not active at all with her roommate accounts
Stopped reading right there

>> No.16662830

>>16658738
Why do people still like Ina? Everything people say about Mori (basic bitch, hates her fans, doesn't like vtubing) is actually true in her case but she doesn't get nearly as much shit.

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>>16662400
>>16662493

>> No.16662844

>>16662810
fuck off Chumbud. Gura never streams either.

>> No.16662851

>>16662764
>her problem is she can't handle the idol aspect of being a virtual ido
must be hard to live up to the stringent idol standards established by people like matsuri, marine, and Coco.

>> No.16662860

>>16662821
not that account

>> No.16662880

>>16662830
Ina isn't as painfully obvious with it as much as Mori. Ina slips up but she isn't doubling down on it.

>> No.16662883

>>16662488
>She likes vtubing
>Applied to holo as a joke
>looked down on idols
>doesn even know anything about it prior

>> No.16662885

>>16662690
He already had contact with Mori, she can contact them. Whichever way you want to believe he did it since you are convinced he did, it was through a proxy. Having a blue checkmark doesn't mean he can just harass them all individually.

>> No.16662888

>>16662830
Deadbeats defend their oshi without deflecting to attacking someone else challenge (impossible)

>> No.16662895

>>16662810
>Yagoo goes on Holotalk
>Thanks for inviting me here today Kiara
>Sorry but I won't be answering any of your questions
>I just came here to say that you and every other Myth member is fired

>> No.16662900

>>16662830
False, Ina likes what she does. She just wants to keep a healthy distance from her fans. She's also not a drama whore so people tend to just ignore her if they don't watch her.

>> No.16662902

>>16662128
I don't think he speaks any JP because he's literally just a sex tourist but I really hope he gets cocky enough to start creeping on JP members. Imagine the autism storm from him pulling his game on Rushia or Lamy

>> No.16662916

I've been saying this since the beginning, she's trying to go the Billie Eilish route and as soon as she can stand on her own with her music she's GONE, SMELL YA LATER

>> No.16662921

>>16662844
That wasn't a chumbud you fucking retard.
Not a single chumbud would ever wish for Gura to be left alone in her generation.

>> No.16662953

>>16662885
No but shooting them a message on Discord, if he's a personal friend of Mori's also isn't a big deal.

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>>16662810
Don't drag my oshi and her wife into this

>> No.16662971

>>16662610
There's a type of people who base their entire ego on this notion. Everyone else hasn't done shit, just got lucky, they're just lazy etc. etc. followed by how they're not like that and how they earned everything they did. It's classic narcissism.
Has Mori ever said she was lucky to get into Hololive?

>> No.16662981

>>16662830
Because Mori does it and lies Ina does it openly better to be a truthful whore than a sneaky slut who's been caught

>> No.16662985

>>16662895
Kino
>suprise picachu face slaps

>> No.16663018

>>16662921
Making shit up now are we? Gura almost never collabs with anybody else anyway and everyone knows it. Chumbuds wouldn't even know if it was only Gura because they don't watch anybody else.

>> No.16663022

Fuck Trash Taste, if you gave them views at any time you're a fag. Fucking tertiary retards with an end game of being friends with as many vtubers as possible for sport

>> No.16663029

>>16662306
>t. holo anti

>> No.16663043

>>16662895
I've never asked for much god but please let this actually happen

>> No.16663065

>16658957(Childfucker)
>4/5 of them
>Gura is happy where she is
Anon...
>Ina clearly said Hololive is a hobby for her that she resoects, Ame is doing a lot of stuff behind the stage for Hololive (Kiara confirmed she is recording this week her part of the upcoming AmeTori Valentine's song) and Kiara is too afraid to leave Hololive in the near future due fear of becoming irrelevant again.
>Meanwhile, Gura just Tummy Hort half of her schedule and Mori is slowly losing interest in Hololive for her new found "friends" outside Hololive.
>And both of them are releasing a duo soon
Gura and Mori are more likely to leave Hololive than the other 3.

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>>16662810
Keep the trinity, what did we ever do to you chumbuds?

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>>16662895
>>16662985
>>16663043
>yagoo
>firing their company's biggest money makers
I shiggy diggy

>> No.16663127

>>16663109
They're not.

>> No.16663139

>>16663109
No one said anything about Rushia, Chloe, or Lamy

>> No.16663150

>>16663109
delusional

>> No.16663151

>>16662851
that's why I have no sympathy for her "struggle". kayfabe in hololive is absurdly easy if you just maintain some common sense and decency regarding very small group of limitations but she's too autistic to do that. I could go into way more detail on this but there's already enough bullshit psychoanalysis on her. She should probably just follow the path Coco laid out. That'd at least save her image and would leave her happier. I'm not sure if it'd be best for the rest of myth, but I highly doubt that'd be a motivating factor for her decision making.

>> No.16663166

>>16662338
He didn't contact anyone, that's part of the drama. Mori lied about him apologizing.

>> No.16663170

honestly, if I was EN Management I would shut all external collabs and mentions down for a while. gag order on even talking to/about them in public fashion

>> No.16663174

>>16663127
>>16663139
>>16663150
Mori's the biggest money maker in en you retards

>> No.16663195

>>16663090
they should also keep Kiara, it's Mori who's a bitch

>> No.16663202

>>16662764
>>16662851
tldr: she looks down on idols and doesnt even bother to know about it's culture or history. Same reason as how those TTfags keep shitting on idols without knowing shit about it and call it toxic after watching Perfect Blue once

>> No.16663219

>>16663174
>company's biggest money makers
not what you wrote dumbass

>> No.16663221

>>16662143
>Bitch, everything you have is due to your fans. You're nothing without them.
False. Her career was already taking off and she would have been successful without Hololive. (Though I admit, not as successful)

>> No.16663225

>>16663090
Dead meme

>> No.16663235

>>16663174
>their company
>in en
Yes those are clearly the two same things

>> No.16663243

>>16661886
That was Mel retard.
_____________ still empty af after THAT day

>> No.16663257

>>16663090
>2022.
>still a trinity fag
things have changed.

>> No.16663263

>>16663221
see >>16662687

>> No.16663290

Mori is lucky to get 4K viewers. Why alienate the ones who are willing to put up with your shit?

>> No.16663315

I hope Mori persuades all of HoloEN to do a TT collab JUST to spite these schizos. It's very well in the realm of possibility too kek.

>> No.16663319

>>16662171
>popular company
companies dont just become popular out of nowhere anon. why do you think hololive is so popular and loved? do you think people just randomly decided to love and support some random small vtubers? you and connor talk as if the company made vtubers popular when its the other way around. hololive got popular because talented vtubers joined when it was small and made it big.

>> No.16663359

>>16663257
trinity was always a meme, it's just that the sea creatures were the best ENs and still are

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>>16663174

>> No.16663371

>>16663319
Yes, Hololive has a lot of talented members, even most of them but not all, that's what he said.

>> No.16663380

>>16663166
He obviously didn't BUT even if he did, a private apology is insufficient for public mockery.

>> No.16663381

>>16662830
Ina is the single most consistent EN other than Kiara who is obviously insufferable but does love hololive.
Ina loves her job and has a very clean cut professional approach to it.
Say what you will about the guilty gear yab but other than that you've got nothing on Ina. She just draws and streams, every fucking day

>> No.16663383

>>16663263
>>16662687
She said she was earning enough to do music full time. If you give me time, I will search for the timestamp and stream.

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>>16663315
Never ever, deadcuck.

>> No.16663397

>>16662306
>there is small amount of people who dont deserve fame so lets shit on all the ones that do

>> No.16663404

>>16663315
Kiara would refuse but peer pressure would also play a factor there

>> No.16663421

>>16662830
>b-but Ina!
Save you breath deadbeat this arc is far from over

>> No.16663428

>>16663109
Keep seething

>> No.16663437

>>16662493
yeah that had serious "western 'male feminist' lectures those unenlightened japanese chuds on how they're umm totally problematic sweetie and need to change their values like ours asap" energy

>> No.16663456

>>16662488
>Furthermore she has said herself she likes vtubing
She also said she didn't enjoy streaming until Jump King

>> No.16663459

>>16663383
That's AFTER she join holo and got those massive SC on her first month retardochama

>> No.16663470

>>16663387
>Still believes in the Kiara is a Stacy meme in 2022
Kiara would give in to peer pressure

>> No.16663471

>>16663397
Yes, he phrased it badly but what he was trying to say is still correct. He apologized for the misunderstanding.

>> No.16663485

>>16663315
I hope mori lets the TT guys gangbang her just to spite the schizos

>> No.16663495

>>16663397
Ironic that he is in the first camp.

>> No.16663517

>>16662830
They aren't even comparable, if you are so upset over Ina's hating the fans comment, she came back with a dogeza admitting she herself is the loser she called her fans (and she's right). Mori doubled down that everyone else is stupid and she is going to spite them from now until the end. They couldn't be more different. Neither is worth idolizing but their attitudes about where they are in life are complete opposites and Ina loves vtubers, she just doesn't enjoy being one. For Mori this inconvenience in her life is demeaning but a stepping stone for her real dream and for Ina this inconvenience in her life is tiresome and serves as a second job that forces her to interact with humans outside of her home (virtually).

>> No.16663522

>>16662143
holy fucking shit i kneel!!!

>> No.16663529

>>16663371
that's not what he said

>> No.16663576

>>16663470
Nice try, but she said she doesn't care about them a couple days ago.

>> No.16663602

>>16663383
There's a world of difference between earning enough to do music full time and having 28m views on one song plus $1.2m in superchats. Hololive made her who she is today and she's done nothing but attack them for it.

>> No.16663634

>>16663471
STOP. FUCKING. LYING.

>> No.16663653

>>16663109
But they aren't Rushia, Lamy, and Chloe are? Why numberfag if your going to do it wrong

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>>16663383
>She said she was earning enough to do music full time
Oh shit she actually SAID it? Well nevermind then, if she said it then there's no reason for me to doubt her anymore

>> No.16663671

>>16663485
You are like 8 months late.

>> No.16663707

>>16663471
>phrased it badly
kek
he's just an arrogant hipocrite who thinks he's better than others

>> No.16663713

>>16662953
A message Mori would have to give to them, yes.

>> No.16663718

>>16662830
Wrong, if Ina screws up you'll have a naked dogeza the next day. Mori doubles down on it and spergs out like a retard, then tries to lie her way out until someone has to tell her to stop.

It's not even close.

>> No.16663739

>>16663602
She would be somebody even without hololive. Plus, she has always said she is lucky to be in hololive and has expressed gratitude.

>> No.16663746

>>16662315
>>16661930
>>16662493

I fear no anti, but Nenes husbands, they scare me.
If they go to war, TT shall burn.

>> No.16663749
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16663749

>>16663471

>> No.16663759

>>16663383
>Mori when monetization opens
OMG I CAN'T CONTAIN THE TEARS *brap* YOU GUYS CHANGED MY LIFE
>Mori after she's made loads of money
uh yeah bruh i totally never needed this job like i couldve made it on my own for real my man

>> No.16663765

>>16663202
Based non-retard. Whatever personal problems Mori has are irrelevant to her actual issue with remaining in Hololive. There's a laundry list of holomembers who are always pulling bullshit. There will always be people who are mad and anti-post against them, but that doesn't change the fact that they're doing what they love in the company still, despite yabs. Mori doesn't want to do her core role in the company. I've had multiple times when I've thought she's getting over this, but I doubt it at this point.

>> No.16663790

>>16663221
Did you spoiler out of shame from how retarded your post is?

>> No.16663838

>>16663517
Holy shit are you me
t. >16663718

>> No.16663844
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16663844

>>16662687
lol

>> No.16663864

Do you think Connor will drop Ironmouse like a sack of potatoes once Mori starts streaming on Twitch

>> No.16663893

>>16663576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBfgk0-kq7g

>> No.16663913

>>16663371
Yes that isn't what he said. He said all of EN are talentless corporate whores

>> No.16663916

>>16663765
This. she already said in the past how she looked down on idol, but seeing she still close and went extra mile to defend the TTfags, WHO always shitting in idols and everything around it, i doubt she really change her mind.

>> No.16663941

Yo yo
The name is Mori
And this is my story
If you’re a deadbeat Give it up youre a goner
My best buddy is a dude named Connor
His dick is like a bat
There’s no No other man I’d choose
Ill give him your superchat
sperm count higher than Guras vod views
Will m a bitch yo
Yo yo
I’m a bitch

>> No.16663967

>>16662143
How can one man be so correct

>> No.16663973

>>16663941
Better than anything Mori has ever done.

>> No.16663974

>>16663941
Who the FUCK is Will M.?

>> No.16663977

>>16663380
Yes and that's what makes it even worse. He found no reason to actually apologize and she found some reason to say that he did

>> No.16663980

>>16662143
Good take, despite the wordiness.

It's apparent that the kind of "fame" she got from vtubing is not the one she wants. Those thousands of fans are just there for her corpo-provided big tiddy anime girl character. She wants fame for HERSELF, and her cringe weeb rap. Without Hololive she would still be a ngmi niche artist living in a trashcan apartment, going nowhere in life, and on some subconscious level she probably knows this and that's why she rebels against it. Hololive (and all it entails, culture etc.) is just a means to an end for her, and that end is getting into the eceleb circles. And most importantly, she's the sort of type whose primary motivation is not the adoration of thousands of anonymous internet friends, but being admitted into the exclusive clique of ecelebs she actually cares about. That's why she's so quick to throw the former under the bus for the latter.

If anyone who's actually a "fan" of hers doesn't realize this, it's only getting more painful for you in the future. Best bet, if you don't want to drop her completely over this, is to accept your position as her stepping stone paypig as she continues to get closer to her actual goals, she doesn't care about (you) who's just there to provide the metaphorical condom money, and if you have a problem with that she's happy to remind you that she's gonna do it even more, yaaas kween

>> No.16663982

>>16663517
>Mori doubled down that everyone else is stupid and she is going to spite them from now until the end.
source on this?

>> No.16663981

>>16663893
She wanted chat to say no. Normies are so bad at reading the room.

>> No.16664020

>>16663739
LMAO dyrbi

>> No.16664055
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16664055

>>16663404
>yfw Kirara turns out to be the most based myth

>> No.16664075
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16664075

>>16663982

>> No.16664097

>>16662493
Joey realizes that Japs are too polite and are the only people on earth who won't bully his ass over talking shit

>> No.16664107

>>16663471
He
Literally
Didn't
Apologize

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16664126

>>16663893
>he thinks she's referring to TT
kek

>> No.16664143

>>16664107
Mori said he apologized to Myth in privat.

>> No.16664145

>>16663941
Mic check mic check
Uh sike it wasnt mike, actually a dick
Whos? You ask
Connor you fags
Keep 'em money come
I keep on make him cum
Uh uh oh you hate it?
Suck it up cuck
I'd suck his cock yum
You'll akasupa me no less,
Despite i despise you, dilate
I love muh cuckbeat the least!

>> No.16664155

>>16662143
The pinnacle of schizo posting. Can't even begin to imagine how even an ironic rrat could type this out and hit send

>> No.16664161

>>16663982
Her streams. They've already been clipped for people like you that can't even try to follow a conversation before jumping in.

>> No.16664174

>>16664075
She'll be losing money doing it too because of all the inbetweens that take their cut plus tax

>> No.16664177
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16664177

>>16662830
Deadbeats proving they have no more arguments as they desperately attempt to shift the topic.

>> No.16664204

>>16663893
>kiara trying to appeal to gachis
>retarded KFP cant read the room
Kwk

>> No.16664203

>>16664155
Prove him wrong, I dare you.

>> No.16664211 [DELETED] 

https://discord.gg/FHe7ERx4

>> No.16664228

>>16664143
Which wasn't true and would resolve nothing since she publicly has rejected the idea he should have apologized and so her continued association with him is based on the idea his apology was disingenuous if it existed at all.

>> No.16664235

>>16660231
The TTRPG was the only reason I watched her. And after seeing her true colors as a massive flake that couldn't GM their way out of a linear dungeon, I won't be watching her in the future.

>> No.16664238

>>16662582
U wokin wot m8
Anya had 2views even after joining hololive and grinded her way to where she is now
Sana's roommate has twice the following than her holo so how does she not deserve her fame??

>> No.16664243

>>16664143
DYRB?

>> No.16664248

She's already made the twitch channel, you can bet your ass collabs with Connor are on the docket.

hololive EN was a mistake

>> No.16664249

>>16663739
Ok let us know when you've found a final destination for those goalposts then we'll resume

>> No.16664251

>>16664143
holy fuck this thread is just one huge timeloop. go back

>> No.16664277 [DELETED] 

>>16664251
T.Cuckbeat

>> No.16664296

>>16664248
it's only Mori, the rest are clean

>> No.16664298

>>16664238
They are bad streamers, that was the point. They have a small following because they suck at streaming. Good on Anya that she has to grind to get 300 views and Sanas roommate isnt a streamer.

>> No.16664325

>>16664203
>prove some retard's shitty conjecture wrong
Literally how? They just spewed what the voice in their head told them is fact.

>> No.16664328

>>16664174
She realized she was retarded and would bankrupt herself quite quickly so she won't do it unless it's someone she actually wants to suck up to. By saying she'll do it anonymously she avoids anyone realizing she won't actually do it for people that aren't part of the club she wants to be in. She already did it for Connor publicly on Twitch.

>> No.16664340

>>16661851
I hate omega but he's not some random person no one knew who signed up to Hololive. He's a pretty successful guy and has contributed a lot on the EN side of things. If it was a new hire that got that number of subscribers then it would be a fair argument. Look how popular sports managers are for example. Achan is very popular too so a lot of people subscribed in the hope he'd be a similar thing for EN considering the sex design he got.

>> No.16664386

>>16664145
uh yeah uh
fuck me in the pussy
fuck me hard
fuck me in the pussy
fuck me hard
we rollin'
we starvin'
we bitchin'
we snitching'
uh uh yea

>> No.16664388

>>16664328
That just makes it easier to do then and each time its a small drain and her sperg outs will just keep driving home the point to her members lmao

>> No.16664403

>>16664340
ENfags unironically still think he's a vtuber, they bring him up in chat and for collabs all the time, it's honestly embarrassing.

>> No.16664433

All she had to say was "Hey guys let's not be negative with the superchats alright, I want to have a good time here for everyone" But she's a retard with an overinflated ego.

>> No.16664470

>>16664433
this

>> No.16664500

>>16664298
What makes them worse streamers and less deserving of what they have compared to like veibae or finana.
And so what if Sana wasn't a streamer? Hololive clearly thinks shrle is worth it since they hired her instead of a billion others.

IN FACT you made me google sana's roommate in the first place and now i will start watching her cause she designed some of my favorite gacha chars

>> No.16664516

>>16664328
Someone should send red superchats shitting on her genmates to see what she would actually do if she's so friends with them

>> No.16664520

>>16664340
Sure omegatroon.

>> No.16664527 [DELETED] 

>>16664251
T.cuckbeat Unironically Fuck off Jannie

>> No.16664529

>>16660875
I think Hololive would likely pay Ina and Gura enough where they would not leave. Ina for her artwork for products. Gura for her numbers/influence which would tank HoloEN image and stock.

>> No.16664568 [DELETED] 

>>16664386
Yo yo
We keep'n cuming
Yeah
We keep'n rolling
Yeah
Them akasupa
Yeah
From muh cuckbeats
Yeah
Them condom money uh
Sike let them cum
Inside
Them manlets dick uh
Fuck the idol

>> No.16664586

>>16664527
anon what the fuck are you talking about. why is that post from cuckbeat

>> No.16664587

>>16664529
I don't think they can buy Gura. She's probably made enough for life and she's shown to be really down to earth.

>> No.16664642 [DELETED] 

>>16663864
He can and gets to actually fuck Mori so yeah, he will.

>> No.16664669

>>16664529
gura wouldnt quit purely for the reason that she has fuck all else going for her and she is too lazy to start anything new

>> No.16664734

>>16663864
No because it's in his interests to have feet in but both worlds. Your question should be "if [company] flounders will he stop injecting himself". The answer is yes

>> No.16664742

>>16664500
They are bad streamers because they are boring and awkward, hardly stream and show contempt for their viewers. There are also other streams outside hololive who suck but they appeal to cheap humor and lewd talk like Veibae.

Sana's roommate is a very talented artist but that doesn't make her a good streamer, she hardly even streams serious art content.

>> No.16664774

>>16664516
Honestly, if she weren't a lying bitch and follow-through was guaranteed I would do it. I would even take out a loan to do it. I don't even like many in EN, but in the scenario where she actually had to match the donation (thus losing money herself) and do it publicly, I'd love to see how she'd send each of them money while avoiding explaining why she's doing it so as not to admit she did anything wrong.

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16664784

>>16664298
Anya improved massively after her first few months and is consistently streaming 4-5 times a week with a dedicated time slot, as well as having the most stream hours among the ID branch
it's just that people base their opinions on first impressions from a year ago and clips that exaggerate their personalities
Anya might be an underperformer, but she is still doing better than Risu and Iofi, while regularly being just below Moona in terms of revenue
>16664742
>They are bad streamers because they are boring and awkward, hardly stream and show contempt for their viewers
lol, just say you don't watch them

>> No.16664834

>>16664155
Point out the lie then, deadcuck

>> No.16664874

>>16658384
>>16658553
>>16661485
>>16662143
>connor says hololivers naturally get more viewers and subs after their debute because of the fact they're in hololive
>a literal undisputable fact that's appicable to anyone entering any space as talent with a large following
>not even a loaded statement or meant to imply some negative attitude to the quality of hololives talent. Literally just to highlighting during a relevant discussion the difference in opportunity between debuting with a big company and a smaller one/being indie
>mentally ill doomposters construe this as a full on attack towards hololive en and their fanbase
>mentally ill doomposters start to attack hololive en talent themselves for not having the same schizoid third eye they do and therefor not being able to see connor clearly HATES vtubers and hololive and them personally, and anyone that associates with him also completely stands with him on it
The absolute state of some people on this board. Seek help.

>> No.16664883

>>16664784
It's okay that you like them, I personally even like Sana and I don't hate Anya but I can recognize their niche appeal and the reasons for why they aren't popular.

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16664925

>>16664143
>he apologized in private for what he said publicly even though he'll continue to shit on my fans and coworkers
>it's all good!>>16664143

>> No.16665002

>>16664874
>defending grifting e-celebs
Kill yourself.

>> No.16665130

>>16663941
Is anon up next for Atlanta?

>> No.16665148

>>16664834
There's no evidence for literally anything they said. From the bullshit about wanting her face to be plastered across media, to her not fully appreciating the platform and opportunities she's been given.
All of these bullshit baseless claims (and all bullshit baseless claims about literally any other vtuber) are propped up solely by the fact the vtuber in question doesn't go out of their way to denounce it all. Chuds on this board know they'll never do this because, especially for hololivers, their hands of tied in regards to being able to openly combat claims about them online.

>> No.16665215

>>16665148
>Chuds
go back

>> No.16665252

>>16664874
He said they are done for life after getting on hololive even if they are MEDIOCRE STREAMERS, thus insinuating that there are mediocre streamers, which is insulting to her colleagues
You don't point out that there could be faggots on 4chan if you don't think that there are faggots on 4chan
Thats why ironmouse dodged the question, it was heavenly charged

>> No.16665271

>>16664742
Saying something is bad implies there is an objective reasoning behind it. Just because you don't find them enjoyable doesn't mean they are bad streamers. Callinf something bad based entirely on subjective opinion is a good way to get your argument thrown out and disregarded.

And yes, sana doesn't seem to do much art if any as her holo persona, but the fact that there is a miniscule and barely relevant connection, that already is somw form of incentive.
Now if someone had a scuffed af mic or a godawful schedule or outright hatred for their listeners, then yeah i would agree that they are bad streamers but so farni haven't really seen an indication from holo or even nijien and vshojo that their talents are bad streamers.

>> No.16665315

>>16664433
This. Even as bad as it was literally all she had to do was just ignore it, give meaningless PC answers when neaaecary and quietly distance herself from TT. Or you could double down and bend over backwards to defend the source of the drama
Hard decision

>> No.16665341

>>16664874
No one misunderstood what he was saying anon. It was a shit thing to say fully in context.
Was it a secret schizo attack on the fanbase? No. It was just a shit take that shat on a lot of vtubers.

>> No.16665607

>>16665252
>>16665341
You have to believe there ARE actually mediocre hololivers in order to be upset with what he said, otherwise you'd just think he's spouting baseless nonsense and wouldn't be in a rage at a hololiver who hasn't publicly denounced him. How has he shat on any of them unless you in part agree with what he said? And therefore how are you any better?

>> No.16665711

>>16665607
>You have to believe there ARE actually mediocre hololivers in order to be upset with what he said
Are you retarded?

>> No.16665740

>>16665607
Why do you want to suck his cock so hard, people aren't taking this one out of context clip from a guy they otherwise would love for his great takes on their hobbies.

>> No.16665757

>>16664874
If what he said was so harmless, then why did he have to apologize in private to Mori's co-workers?

>> No.16665804

>>16665607
Hey your mom's a whore and I fucked her last night along with my 8 nigger friends
btw if you're mad I said that it means your mom is actually a whore

>> No.16665810

>>16665607
I don't disagree with that at all. Some of them are better streamers than others.
I wouldn't go on a podcast with a vtuber and make a public statement to their face that some of their coworkers are only successful because they're on Hololive, even if they are. Because that's rude as fuck.

>> No.16665889

>listen, I think X are shit at their jobs
>what?? I didn't offend anyone, if you are offended then you must have agreed with me
This is literally the level of intelligence of someone who unironically defends a talentless grifter can only display

>> No.16665893

>>16665740
I don't give a shit about connor or what he said. My original post was about deranged faggots on this board getting outraged over a complete nothing thing some nobody said and how pathetic that is. I don't even watch cali, but every thread like this that crops up just adds to the board becoming shitter and shitter.

>> No.16666047

>>16665804
Yea, but, as I said, I wouldn't get mad about that claim because I don't think it's at all true and I have no reason to. If i did get mad then you'd be led to believe i'm either a manchild who can't control my emotions OR i actually do in part believe you fucked my mom. Do you understand now you've contextualized it in a more retarded way for yourself?

>> No.16666131

>>16666047
>I wouldn't get mad about that claim
Anon you're an actual beta, either you're coping from being bullied or you get trampled on daily

>> No.16666203

>>16666047
Do you understand that if you publicly hang out with >>16665804 afterwards your mother and people that like her would be pissed?

>> No.16666278

>>16666047
it was pretty retarded but so was your claim
>You have to believe there ARE actually mediocre hololivers in order to be upset with what he said

>> No.16666346

>>16664874
you got your fair share of you's already so i will just say your mom's a hoe

>> No.16666367 [DELETED] 

>>16658553
>Never needed Hololive
>Literally unknown artist before hololive

Deadcucks really are retarded.

>> No.16666441

>>16665607

>you can't fight back otherwise you admit they are right
what a fucking loser mentality is this?

>> No.16666623

>>16666131
No one else's fault you'd cry if some faggot on /vt/ said he fucked your mom.
>>16666203
There's a difference between getting mad at someone for making a false claim about you/someone you know/your favourite vtuber and getting mad at someone who hasn't denounced someone who you THINK was POSSIBLY making a targetted claim at someone they know. Thats twitter levels of witchhunting, and you're doing it to one of the people the original claim was apparently mocking.

>> No.16666823

>>16665893
You're really trying as hard as possible to ignore the context which is fine but then why bother trying to join the conversation. You clearly feel left out.

>> No.16666893

>>16665757
he didn't that was another lie

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>>16666047

>> No.16666976

>>16666623
>if some faggot on /vt/ said he fucked your mom.
Why compare this to a situation where a "friend" called you and all of your other friends lazy, carried and undeserving of your success? Please use your brain, the point is that it's an irl situation

>> No.16667213

>>16666976
No, my reading comprehension devoid friend, please use your brain. The original point about getting mad about what other people say because you must inherently think it's true in >>16665607 is about anons getting mad at connor over what he said. It has nothing to do with what anyone thinks Cali should think about what connor said.

>> No.16667461

>>16658384
She unironically can't handle being an indie

>> No.16667909

>>16667461
She has made this abundantly clear

>> No.16668510

>>16662143
Mucho texto.

>> No.16668726

>>16668510
Have you tried not being an illiterate third worlder?

>> No.16669192

>>16664874
You havent seen council and ID

>> No.16669256

>>16666893
Proof ?

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>>16668726
Why are you so mentally fucking ill that anyone posting a slight shitpost in pretend Spaniard is suddenly an illiterate third worlder?
Please justify your niggerfaggotry.

>> No.16671289

>>16662143
based

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