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>>17158771

>> No.17167192

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

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>>17167182

>> No.17167284

>>17167182
Welcome back Aqua, the Hololive anti-Niji squad get more reinforcement

>> No.17167310

With Queen Bunny down, it is time for the Onion to take the crown.

>> No.17167379

>>17167310
nijis can't catch break huh

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>>17167182
NIJIKILLER I KNEEL!

>> No.17167423
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Nijisanji status: Removed

>> No.17167442

>>17167182
I shall buy your concert ticket and watch it legally in honor of the Nijikiller's return.

>> No.17167547
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nijikiller tsuyoi...

>> No.17167557

Even with two of their biggest hitters basically out of action with Marine and Korone, and possibly Pekora too soon, all it took was Aqua to actually stream inbetween her idol reps for Hololive to keep dominating

>> No.17167566

>>17167310
All the top tier Holo can take turn raping the Niji every day, that would be more fun
Imagine they all sitting together and decide who get to kill the Niji today

>> No.17167639

>>17167557
I don’t watch her but did she say why she’s gaming again?

>> No.17167653

Is the free part of Akua's concert counted? She may take Gold again.

>> No.17167677

>>17167557
Pekora is actually on her way to an Aqua-tier break right now considering her health problems.

>> No.17167689

>>17167566
It could be more if the CCVID wasn't there

>> No.17167726

>>17167653
i dont know if there will be a free part, sora didnt have one iirc

>> No.17167727

>>17167689
Doesn't matter
What matter is that Hololive get 1 more gold contender in the future. Niji literally can't compete

>> No.17167744

>Aqua has 2 golds this month
>Pekora has 6
>"Aqua is queen!"
Pekora is still the champion. Prey tell, when is the last time Aqua got more golds than Nijisanji in a month? Pekora does that every other month.

>> No.17167748

>>17167727
It matter for the ones why are affected

>> No.17167767

>>17167653
Yes, like Suisei and Watame, it'll be streamed and be in contention.
>>17167639
No specific reason given I don't think, she just wanted to try again after failing last year and almost killing herself in the process due to not taking care of herself.
>>17167677
Yea, honestly it'll probably be a good idea for her to take all the time she needs instead of making the same mistake Marine did, especially with Holofes coming up in March.

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>>17167639
she's gaming Apex because she knows that that game brings a lot of tourists and it's using this to promote the concert
this is my rrat, take care of it

>> No.17167789

How do we save en from the 20k wall

>> No.17167799

>>17167744
You aren't supposed to point that out....

>> No.17167801

>>17167744
Stop jinxing Pekora, if she really takes a break and Acua continues her Apex autism, Ayua may really overtake Bunny.

>> No.17167808

>>17167744
Well her Apex number for now is consistently 40k and we might be seeing another FBK shiny arc right here. Calm the fuck down, it's too soon to tell
What if she keep her 40k streak to Ferbuary? What if Pekora take a break?

>> No.17167809

>>17167055
Look faggot just let me numberfag my oshi in peace in the appropriate thread, I know she doesn't care about numbers but I want her to do well so she can achieve her goals

>> No.17167821

>>17167789
gura karaoke

>> No.17167827

>>17167557
>>17167566
>>17167639
You got it backwards, anons. She coofed Peko in front of YAGOO. With her biggest rivals out of the way, she feels motivated to stream again.

>> No.17167866

>>17167789
blame Susan and teamyoutube for been incompetents
Today is Gura VR Last Labyrinth but it will be a miracle to get 20k right now for them

>> No.17167867

>>17167788
Hey, its working. I am buying her ticket now to add to her Nijikilling funds.

>> No.17167888

>>17167801
>overtake
*keep the seat warm for

>> No.17167900

>>17167801
They even share the same niche: gaming. Honestly it would be good for Pekora to try taking advantage of the "coming back from break buff" plus she really need a break right now I fucking hate seeing my oshi resorting to that shit though

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>>17167789
we cant, she got fucked by ccvid pretty hard along most of her en friends
> being barely able to beat their waiting rooms

>> No.17167991

>>17167808
That said, I forgot to factor in that number can drop depending on how long will it take for Aqua to reach her goal + If Aqua will kee doing it after her concert assuming >>17167788 is true

>> No.17168018

>>17167949
But even so we need to post this everyday to teamyoutube until those idiots understand they were wrong.
I fear the 3D debut will be below 20k because of this

>> No.17168025

>>17167991
She said she will continue after the concert, I hope she drags it out.

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>numberfags will defend this!!

>> No.17168112

>>17168018
if you mean tweet it to teamyoutube i agree, but I dont have a twitter account so someone else do it. Just dont be a schizo about it

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Well at least Shion's able to milk supas after coming back even if her views weren't great

>> No.17168142

>>17167949
I think it's pretty normal when stream itself is delayed 10+ mins from actual start time

>> No.17168150

>>17167809
take your autistic lie elsewhere

>> No.17168162

>>17168025
Well that is 1 variable taken care of, now let's see how long will it take her to get to her goal. As much as I want to see big number I will not tolerate her purposefully dragging it out

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>>17168117
kek she definitely came back for pokemon arceus, this brat

>> No.17168218

>>17167789
I'm all in for the theory that the reason why EN is affected so much is because the CCV only count viewers from the same region or around it. Ludwig and Valk isn't affected due to most of their viewers being westerners while NijiJP isn't affected much because their viewers are mostly Japanese. The same goes for Luxiem where most of their viewers are Japanese, they aren't culled much. HoloJP and HoloEN were affected a lot due to their viewers coming from different regions. Only solution for EN is to check analytics, and change their account's region to the place where most of their viewers are watching them at their timeslot.

>> No.17168281

>>17167639

510 2022/01/22 (Sat) 19: 33: 49.60
Akutan got really good at apex, what's this?
Why the rush all of a sudden?

565 2022/01/22 (Sat) 19: 36: 00.83
> 510 https://i.imgur.com/Iv6KJbU.png https://i.imgur.com/IF5m1aM.png https: // i.imgur.com/de6ytki.png They were captivating streamers and were trying to take away their entire fan base.

>> No.17168288

>>17167767
When was the last time Pekora even have a break? I am confident that I have never seen anyone mentioning Pekora break, at least on this board

>> No.17168298

>>17168142
>I think
yesterday flare delayed her start for over 30 minutes. Recovered waiting room in twenty minutes and her peak was still more than double it
https://vrabi.ml/video/WrNe8mDLT-A

>> No.17168316

>>17168218
NijiJP were animated last time around and VSPO, who has no western fanbase, was being hit worse than anyone.

>> No.17168326

>>17168142
That wasn't normal at all for Gura. Having more than 17k on waiting room and take +10min to get 18 but couldn't surpass even 20k
That kind of number last year would be 25k - 30k on NA times before december culling.

>> No.17168355

>>17168018
well there is some hope youtube gaming will improve after the crypto bro is out

https://twitter.com/Fwiz/status/1486020750607740928

>> No.17168363

>>17168218
thats not a fix, thats just hiding the problem again, for a while

>> No.17168392

>>17168281
So they’re guessing that Aqua is jealous of Towa?

>> No.17168428

>>17168218
>EN is to check analytics, and change their account's region to the place where most of their viewers are watching them at their timeslot.
In other words: Someone has to Talk to Kiara or Omega because you now the answers from the others.

>> No.17168438

>>17168281
Don't just copy and past stuff from matomes! Your formatting is all over the place too.

>> No.17168489

>>17168142
>>17168326
it took her 35 mins to reach waiting room numbers, in what universe is that normal

>> No.17168517
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>>17168298
Then explain this to me

>> No.17168561

>>17168355
The only good news i wants is someone fired Susan

>> No.17168626

>>17168517
that drawing stream wasnt scheduled unlike the terraria one, retardchama. Watch streams.

>> No.17168663

>>17168561
>firing Susan
shes a woman and a jew, chances are very low

>> No.17168692

>>17168517
Natural recline?

>> No.17168766

>>17168392
Could be, she probably hell bent on becoming the best Holo APEX player now that MarioKart have failed her

>> No.17168822

>>17167566

Gold miners:
Peko Gura Fubuki Aqua Shuba Miko
Injured:
Marine
Rest:
Ayame

>> No.17168848

>>17168766
i dont know if towa even was the best holo apex player, shes just an entertaining pon-magnet

>> No.17168868

>>17168626
I don't get what you want to say. I just want why left stream wasn't culled as you say. simply you can't

>> No.17168931

>>17168868
im sorry you are retarded, anon

>> No.17169057

>>17168848
She was worse than aqua even before she came back even stronger. Towa even said it herself. Hell even Matsuri is a better all rounder. It isn't all about skill though.

>> No.17169146

>>17168931
lol culled fags are always like this. can't understand how to see data

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The same answer as always?

>> No.17169308

>>17169185
I miss when hololive used to do their own milestone chart and had their little box of shame.

>> No.17169322

>>17169057
Hm if by strong you meant popular then maybe

>> No.17169392

>>17169185
Comeon towasama you can still mooners

>> No.17169467

>>17169229
Most of it is same answer yes, but they don't ask for the url very often

>> No.17169522

>>17169467
Can't saw about Gura yesterday because there are to many complains about other things and will take me too long

>> No.17169557

>>17169522
???

>> No.17169562

>>17169229
them asking for the URL is new, usually it's just the boilerplate "we are working on addressing this issue, please send feedback using youtube feedback" message.

>> No.17169636

>>17169229
based fandead

>> No.17169650

>>17169562
Let see if the give the same answer to Gura in a few hours so lets see what teamyoutube will say about her

>> No.17169663

>>17169650
will gura set up a poll though?

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What did Akutan mean by this?

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>>17169708

>> No.17169780

>>17169663
the waiting room will have to be the poll for her unless chat ask a poll. On pokemon legends unless she get the water starter she could make a pool for that one

>> No.17169807

In unimportant news the VOD where Fubuki caught the shiny magikarp just passed 1 million
https://youtu.be/yd-y-p900pg?t=6422

>> No.17169826

>>17169185
Current sub growth is so fucking depressing, I don't even remember the last time a pre-2021 debut gained more than 1k in a day

>> No.17169889

>>17169636
that's a chumdead though

>> No.17169926

>>17167748
JP really aren't effected anymore though, except arguably Haachama due to the presence of many western viewers.

>> No.17169964

>>17169926
Chama isn't even ccivd anymore. It is a new terminal illness.

>> No.17170018

>>17169807
How many of her pokestreams reached 1M? I know that's a lot but she did several 10+hrs if I'm not mistaken

>> No.17170059

>>17169826
Friend...

>> No.17170076

>January 2022 Golds

1 - 39,292 - Chloe (Hololive)
2 - 48,192 - Korone (Hololive)
3 - 59,730 - Pekora (Hololive)
4 - 17,622 - Kanata (Hololive)
5 - 19,789 - Toya (Nijisanji)
6 - 20,631 - Yashiro (Nijisanji)
7 - 38,541 - Towa (Hololive)
8 - 43,154 - Nijisanji Main Channel
9 - 50,982 - Gura (Hololive)
10 - 21,182 - Gura (Hololive)
11 - 35,413 - Pekora (Hololive)
12 - 136,102 - Pekora (Hololive)
13 - 88,491 - Shibuya Hal (Merise)
14 - 34,677 - Subaru (Hololive)
15 - 29,689 - Mel (Hololive)
16 - 89,594 - Shigure Ui (Indie)
17 - 34,206 - Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)
18 - 39,721 - Pekora (Hololive)
19 - 36,391 - Pekora (Hololive)
20 - 22,436 - Mito (Nijisanji)
21 - 29,571 - Suisei (Hololive)
22 - 97,996 - Rushia (Hololive)
23 - 38,502 - Aqua (Hololive)
24 - 41,741 - Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
25 - 31,917 - Pekora (Hololive)
26 - 41,614 - Aqua (Hololive)

>> No.17170114

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTeMv4jydEw
Man I didn't even know hololive had 100 original songs.
They really should look into making a rhythm game, they have enough songs for it and it could take the place of muse dash.

>> No.17170152

Here's something interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4B5D8MZ7eM
The top earners of 2019

>> No.17170177

>>17169926
everyone is affected, eslchama, it depends if the viewers are flagged, not the channel - and they may watch anyone

>> No.17170216

>>17170018
None went on for that long. 6 hours max. I only see two that passed 1 million but a bunch that are at around 800k.

>> No.17170304

>>17170114
They have more than 200 original songs.

>> No.17170318

>>17169826
Last 30 days more than 1k per day:
Gura-2.3k
Suisei/Fubuki/Mori/Marine-1.6k
Towa-1.5
Rushia/Miko/Subaru-1.3k

>> No.17170383

>>17170318
Damn that’s depressing. Pekora is probably even worse and that is an achievement

>> No.17170389

>>17170216
Ah thats true. She did have some 10+hrs days, but those were cut in multiple streams

>> No.17170495

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELP7sBBIJU
>Almost at 80K views already
Is this a popular song?

>> No.17170584

>>17170318
You need to add they cut Gura 2k from 9.5k to 8k like almost twice everytime she gone near to another 10k. since september. Or no one never notice that? that usually always happens and very normal

>> No.17170586

>>17170495
Hm.
The original was released last November and has 5m views. I don't know enough about the vocaloid scene to comment beyond that.

>> No.17170615

>>17170584
It's because it approximates anon. There is no way to see for sure until the public API ticks up the next +10k. Until then, the sites that track have to 'guesstimate' when the next +10k appears.

>> No.17171028

In other news, a clip of Reine talking about feet made front page on LSF and gained 30k views so her vod views got a bit of a boost.

>> No.17171073

>>17167789
Tell them to stop being a coward and tweet them pajeets and adressing the issue like the emperor

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>>17168117
>>17168184
ToT

>> No.17171115

>The EN-ID Pokemon Tournament has multiple POVs

will any of the streams break 10k or is that asking too much

>> No.17171158

>>17171115
Maybe Mori or Mumei. No one else stands a chance.

>> No.17171164

>>17170584
Gura grows so fast it's hard to notice that kind of thing. You only notice cuts and glitches with people like Aki's who are too weak to outgrow then.

>> No.17171176

>>17171115
That is a bit retarded, is there a main POV?

>> No.17171204

>>17168326
this is even more retarded, because just imagine
>at the X:00 mark, there's 10k in the wait room
>people that is watching other stuff but are aware of the schedule, won't join until that moment
>IF they started the stream on time, the wait room (10k) would be recovered in 7~10 minutes
>IF THEY DON'T, then people start to pile in the wait room, sometimes at a faster rate than the room recovery
>in that case, stuff like this happens, in less than 10 minute, AT LEAST 7k joined the wait room expecting this to start WITHOUT NOTIFICATION
now, if 7k people can join the wait room under those conditions, it would be EXPECTED for far more to join after notifications actually roll out but that hasn't happened to any EN because they BARELY recover their wait room

>> No.17171251

>>17171115
Seems like Gura is overlapping them and Mori and Mumei will split the viewers pretty evenly between them, so I doubt it.

>> No.17171281

>>17171176
Mori is the host she's technically the "main pov".

>> No.17171289

>>17171251
gura will be on an hour before and with her streaming a vr game i could see it not being that long of a stream

>> No.17171291

>>17171251
>Gura is overlapping them
no, they are overlapping Gura, she had this on schedule before the change

>> No.17171310

>>17171289
Maybe, especially if she gets sick. Not even sure why she keeps doing VR stuff at this point.

>> No.17171317

>>17171028
S-sugoi

>> No.17171329

>>17171204
Natural recline explains that

>> No.17171356

>>17171291
It doesn't mater, Gura is streaming the same time as them if she goes over an hour.

>> No.17171358

>>17171251
>Gura VR
i doubt it will last long lol, she gets motion sick

>> No.17171382

>>17171310
we can watch gura vr and she is cute and get a lot clips

>> No.17171411

>>17171358
+ there's a chance she's a PNG tuber, again

>> No.17171454

>>17171358
90 mins max. now after that I don't know she put pokemon legends for tomorrow and NO...Gura you are not from japan so or change the member stream to tomorrow and pokemon sunday or break

>> No.17171668

>>17171310
Despite getting nauseous, she still enjoys the VR stuff. It just means her streaming stamina for VR is lower than normal gaming.

>> No.17171722

>>17170114
Suisei+Watame+Mori+Azki and Bloom have over 100 official songs, much less the shorts, or everyone else

>> No.17171770
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Boy... this Ark thing.

Sure brings some numbers..

>> No.17171895

>>17171722
I wonder if Cover will ever go exclusively 1st party songs for concerts.

>> No.17171904

So what niconico pokemon tourny numbers are we expecting tonight?

>> No.17171957

>>17168025
It will take a while. She's in diamond now, and a reasonable game of getting 6th place with 2 kills gets you less than 10 RP. She needs a bit over 2k RP. She's not good enough to carry diamond lobbies and requires good luck with teams to get consistent RP growth.

>> No.17171961

>>17171904
NND doesn't show the CCV so who knows

>> No.17171972

>>17171904
Niconico numbers are retarded

>> No.17172336

Any clue what the 3 man TBA is on the schedule for Bae, Kronii and Fauna at 8pmPST/11pmEST?

>> No.17172340

>>17171770
>4am in Japan
Sure it does.

>> No.17172399

>>17168218
There are some problems with account region and taxes if it doesn't match their tax information in Cover's adsense account, so it's unlikely channel country will ever be changed to anything other than Japan.

>> No.17172420

>>17172340
WTF is up with the nips and going full autismo in ARK?
Flare isn't the only one, Aki, Pekora, etc etc etc

>> No.17172437

>>17171895
I have a bet that holofes 3 will be almost, if not completely just orisongs.

>> No.17172445

>>17172420
They got addicted to it once, they just got addicted to it AGAIN

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>>17172336
yes, but im not allowed to tell you

>> No.17172507

>>17171961
They show VOD numbers so we should be able to make simple value judgements like if it did well or not.

>> No.17172853

>>17172340
Mean more about how all 3 were stuck at 9.9k

>> No.17172863

>>17171454
she addresses that in the comments of the schedule, she said she was going to "move it", aka, not stream that day and add Pokemon to the schedule of the next week

>> No.17172869

>>17172446
go to sleep Risu

>> No.17172901

>>17172507
pretty sure they don't follow the same rules as YT, I think they only count "a view" as each unique user that watched the video

>> No.17172940
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>41,614: Aqua (Hololive)
>28,672: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>24,422: Watame (Hololive)
>23,354: Rushia (Hololive)
>22,439: Miko (Hololive)
>21,113: Choco (Hololive)
>19,063: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,740: Gura (Hololive)
>17,606: Iroha (Hololive)
>17,130: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,031: Kronii (Hololive)
>16,344: Laplus (Hololive)
>16,107: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>15,645: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,331: Shion (Hololive)
>13,621: Mito (Nijisanji)
>12,449: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,246: Amamya (Nijisanji)
>10,507: Hal (merise)
>10,501: Calli (Hololive)
>10,015: Roboco (Hololive)

>> No.17172942

>>17172901
Isn't that even better?

>> No.17173014

>>17172420
I hope Mojang revokes their Minecraft perms, so they'll keep playing this game forever

>> No.17173056

>>17172901
That's a lot better.

>> No.17173129

>>17172940
Nijien doko?

>> No.17173330
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17173330

>>17172940
Thank you Yugioh buff for getting my daughterwife into the chart

>> No.17173472

>>17172901
If that’s true then holy shit Noel has a lot of members on NND

>> No.17173477

>>17173129
Collab Debuff. Needs to be solo stream that appeals to women to get 10k.

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>>17172940
Apex is back?

>> No.17173946

>>17173472
The fact that "Noel" is her side gig and she's still one of the top 20 Holos is really impressive.

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behold the nijien males' audience. all island chinks and not actual bugs btw

>> No.17174124

>>17170495
It’s not the current fotm song nor super famous, but it’s currently popular

>> No.17174132

>>17174046
>2 million plays
Understandable.

But also, Niji EN will never collab with Holo EN at this rate.

>> No.17174261

>>17174046
kek

>> No.17174301

>>17174132
>But also, Niji EN will never collab with Holo EN at this rate.
great

>> No.17174323

>>17174132
no shit, their first collab got cancelled because nijiEN were going to participate on that bilibili event

>> No.17174495

>>17174046
Let them bask in it for a while before StarsEN comes

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>>17174046

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>>17172940
So the winners were
Sweaty gamer maid
Office boy beaten down by Bulu Aizu's ass
Double fluffy Ui Beam

>> No.17174764

>>17174713
Kek why are you starting this and this could be a good pic for next thread

>> No.17174821

>>17174132
They never were anyway, most of Niji EN is Chinese.

>> No.17174861

>>17173946
I guess that is why she's always playing debuff games at debuff hours. I wonder if the rumor is true that she's mostly in it for having friends. I'm not sure how she was doing prior to hololive though.

>> No.17174869

>>17174642
2 x 2million, sorry zhang

>> No.17174934

>>17174861
Noel's almost certainly the wealthiest person in Hololive, and already was before she joined.

>> No.17175043

>>17174764
I think anon started this when Kiara got gold

>> No.17175098

>>17174713
Just a suggestion, a silver gold bronze order would be better imo for thumbnail purposes

>> No.17175105

>>17174934
I thought Polka was already pretty wealthy too.
I guess there really are people not in it for the money and fame since they already have plenty.

>> No.17175141

>>17174713
Why did Yashiro become a woman?

>> No.17175142

>>17174713
I love OLs

>> No.17175261

>>17175098
Podium style, yeah.

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>>17175141
Why didn't you?

>> No.17175562

>>17174046
He's fucked if they hire another guy with a deep voice and can also speak Chinese.

>> No.17175860

>>17172940
Oh man, this time Aqua is giga buffed, if she ever lands on mid D1, she's going to have 70k CCV

>> No.17175949

>>17174642
>tfw zhangs with VPN count as a viewer and real burgers watching on iPhones are considered spam viewers

>> No.17176855

Post SHEANG

>> No.17176894

>>17175860
Aqua's Apex gameplay is miles ahead of when she last did this challenge. She's not excessively ratting, taking initiative on shotcalling, and actively working with her teamates. It's been very entertaining and with a high chance that she will reach her goal this time

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>How the hell is Sana still behind IRyS in sub gain when IRyS cannot stream because her throat is fucked?
>Sana's last stream: 8 days ago
>Oh

Did Sana even give an excuse why she's not streaming this week? She was fine yesterday when talking about wrecking Uranus. But I guess she's also wrecking her numbers along the way

>> No.17177301

>>17177215
A fly in her house sadly passed away and now she needs time to mourn it, please understand

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Are this the best numbers twitch indies have?

>> No.17177428

>>17177215
I don't think she gives reasons anymore it's just kind of implied she's not gonna stream much and just show up for big events and collabs. Kind of like Shion or Ayame or whatever.

>> No.17177450

>>17177354
Depends if you include Shigure Ui or not, she mogs everyone else

>> No.17177480

>>17176894
Do you even play APEX? She's definitely better and more entertaining to watch but she's not at a level where reaching masters in time is a "high chance"

>> No.17177625

>>17177428
What an absolute waste of a slot, think of all the hungry indies out there who would kill to be in Hololive and work their ass off once they got there

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>>17172901
>>17173472
>>17173946
From her last stream ~30 hours ago. Members only.

>> No.17177942

>>17177450
>Twitch indies

>> No.17178071

>>17177744
40k+ unique members? Holy shit

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>>17178071
This is from Christmas.

>> No.17178181

>>17177354
It's basically:

Snuffy (who gets numbers better than all but the top 3 Vshoujo)
Power Gap
Like 20 other assholes in the 1-3k range
Big pile of sub 1k garbage at the bottom

>> No.17178215

>>17177744
twitch views are BS just like bilibili

>> No.17178297

>>17178215
>NND
That being said it doesn't make sense for those numbers to be unique views since the second number, which I'm assuming is comments, is more or less the same. Seems unlikely that viewer engagement ratio would drop so quickly just because it's Christmas.

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>>17178297
Most people are just fapping.
Here's Mel's xmas stream (she tends to private streams a day or so after streaming)

>> No.17178492

>>17177215
Sana is busy with playing Pokemon off stream.

>> No.17178545

>>17178297
Most people don't chat, in any format, be it youtube, twitch, NND or whatever.

>> No.17178571

>>17178466
It makes more sense to me that those are just replays on the video since it's Christmas.

>> No.17178916

>>17177625
She has to be doing work on the Hololive multimedia projects or making art assets for HoloEarth. That's the only way I can explain management not giving a shit. Maybe management just truly don't care about an individual not doing well if the member doesn't care. I guess she isn't really a threat as much as loss. Pressuring her might upset other talents so I guess a heavy hand is not the way to go.


>>17178466
I will never understand why Mel decided to stay in Hololive.

>> No.17179046

>>17172420
It's like minecraft, but your dinosaurs will die if you don't log in.

>> No.17179445

>>17178916
>I will never understand why Mel decided to stay in Hololive.
When the talent themselves are advocates of the company and are basically the ones who built the brand from the ground up, leaving becomes insanely difficult. Look at all the graduations from Hololive to date
>CN Branch - graduated due to geopolitical reasons
>Chris - fired due to scandal
>Aloe - graduated due to focused cyber bullying by anti's
>Coco - the only "true graduation" from Hololive. Graduated in order to make it on her own/ greener pastures
With the exception of Coco if we're gonna take her word for it (and even then I'm in the camp that this is more to do with the chinks), every graduation was caused by strong OUTSIDE factors. Also, keep in mind that the "family atmosphere" in HoloJP is arguably one of its strongest selling points. Aloe barely streamed so they couldn't form enough of a bond with the audience and the other members. If shit blew up 2 months after her debut, I guarantee you that the fans and her Senpai's would've been able to help her tank whatever the Nijiniggers and other chuuba antis threw at her the same way that Towa did.

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Andi Adinata has finally gotten ahead of Nux again on subs.
Ironmouse is closing in on Ange.

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There's a real autistic joy in watching that number go up whenever she streams

>> No.17180523

>>17179445
Aloe was extremely close to the members in her gen. The debut buff of 5th gen was greatly fucked by her leaving

>> No.17180584

>>17180523
I wouldn't say extremely but they supposedly had a long leadtime to get buddy buddy tee tee ready for showtime, sure

>> No.17180670

>>17179908
instant boner

>> No.17180738

>>17178916
being a holo is good advertising for her roommate

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>>17179908

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>>17179908
>>17181004
Can't wait for the superchat update anon. Chloe is back on the warpath!!!

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That's pain

>> No.17181750

>>17177428
>>17177215
Sana is Trash.
>Debuff Model
>Debuff Personality
>Debuff Games
>Debuff Schedule
>Debuff Motivation

>> No.17181775

>>17167789
Why do you care about CCV when it's already been revealed in cover internals that they don't see CCV as a valid metric?

>> No.17181818

>>17179908
Chloe said she's gonna drop the character voice cause it's fucking up her throat or something.

>> No.17181865

>>17181818
damn I might actually watch her

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Holobros...

>> No.17181969

I noticed that among Council, Fauna and Mumei got more active. Baelz is still the same and Kronii is still kronii while fucking Sana should graduate and be replaced by new-gen.

>> No.17181975

>>17181490
why likes so different?

>> No.17182015

>>17181960
Mind telling us what's this about?

>> No.17182094

>>17181975
>3 hours
>5 hours
>7 hours

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>>17181960
vtuber

>> No.17182188

>>17181960
>RT
My fucking sides

>> No.17182208

>>17181818
RIP superchats

>> No.17182212

>>17182099
what site is this on?

>> No.17182258

Seeing Chloe getting some big fucking dough always makes my cock harder than any of her r18 fanarts but it's a shame she's not a 5 digit streamer like Lap and Iroha.

>> No.17182361

NINE (9) HOURS OF POKEMON FOR THIS!?
> I can't fap to that!

>> No.17182396

>>17181960
and this is?

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>>17182361

>> No.17182425

>>17181960
>>17182099
>No context
>No time frame
Wow, its literally nothing. Go kick rocks with the google trends anon you faggot.

>> No.17182730

>>17182099
fucking Twitter again, lmao

>> No.17182756

>>17182212
azure-gallery.net

>> No.17182811

>>17182399
Still better than Reimu.

>> No.17182864

>>17181960
what? what?

>> No.17183006

>>17181960
>Numberfagging twitter
So can we numberfag Twitter space now?

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Congratulations Reimu, you passed your first Holostar.
How long did this take again?

>> No.17183214

>>17169308
to this day i'm still not entirely sure what the conditions for getting put in the cuckbox were

>> No.17183226

>>17182399
She's not even in the tournament is she?

>> No.17183284

>>17169308
>>17183214
the what now?

>> No.17183436

Kiara is currently the tallest midget in EN currently streaming. That’s pretty funny.

>> No.17183445

>>17178181
isn't snuffy pretty much unofficial vshojo member? I know she was rumored to join for the longest time just like vei and even acts like vshojo member jumping to cancel nux faggot and such. I know all of them get talked about in the vsh+ thread this days probably more than the members actually especially since they started hanging out with 3d twitch dudes.

>> No.17183465

>>17183284
Main channel used to post the member subs progress weekly, if your progress isn't good enough that week you'll be put in the corner. They stopped doing this after gen 5 debut iirc.

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>>17183436

>> No.17183974
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Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $381,675 in total superchats and just 47 days after her monetization is the 59th most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Hanabatake Chaika
>Kagura Mea
God just imagine the smell of Chloe and Mea next to each other like they are on the chart now

>> No.17184020

>>17183870
Looks like the zhangs aren't awake to boost NijiEN males.

>> No.17184044

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3A8kXoD8k8
this nigger out here with another propaganda in favour of deadbraper
he needs that sweet money

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The Holostars official channel ended up getting back ahead of Omegaα after they announced the Holostars version of HoloGra.

>> No.17184264

>>17184044
Based JP rrat slayer

>> No.17184374

>>17181750
Kill yourself.

>> No.17184499

>>17184374
Also debuff fans.

>> No.17184618

>>17184044
>Go look at the video summarizing the drama for jps
>Doesn't mention the drug tweets

lmao, JP deadbraps desperately hoping people forget this. It is somewhat funny to me that some JP fans have a weird fantasy version of Mori in their head no wonder she drinks so much scared one day they will turn on her.

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>>17184044
Is that a video that was posted by the same channel as the one that made the video discussed in that thread yesterday? >>17147958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUmePL4iq5U

Here are the numbers of the videos, by the way, since this is the numbers thread.

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>>17184641
The numbers of the biggest(AFAIK) English video on the Calli drama for comparison.

>> No.17184950

>>17184641
Those videos are so pretentious too
Fucking Goebbels

>> No.17185141

>>17182399
That's some severe CCVID right there, it was established that ID was actually getting 4x their displayed numbers from the poll that Iofi did

>> No.17185196

where's the nijigraph, are they actually thriving or in lifesupport?

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>>17185196
They are on life support and the plug is about to be pulled by the return of the Nijikiller.

>> No.17185409

>>17172437
I think it depends on the girl. they can choose what songs they want to perform. I remember Pekora talked about she wanted to sing blue sky rhapsody for holofes 2. though it wouldn't surprise me girls with more original songs are more inclined to sing them.

>> No.17185560

Just come back to Apex already, Turdboy

>> No.17185644

>>17184641
Are you telling I can get susanbucks my making Japanese videos out of /vt/ shitposts?

>> No.17185807

>>17185644
Never break containment, faggot

>> No.17185966

>>17174934
>>17175105
Lamy I think is the richest in JP due to her family. But Noel is the richest in terms of self-made. Lamy joined hololive for the same reason as Noel, to make friends.
>>17174861
If you compared early Noel and current Noel, the difference is day and night. Her menhera attacks have gone down significantly. Having actual friends she enjoys hanging out with helped a lot in terms of her mental stablity.

>> No.17186077

Gura's got a pretty unusually small waiting room. Is Susan acting the mickey with those too, now?

>> No.17186143

Looks like Vox didn’t give any buff to Ironmouse.

>> No.17186144

>>17177450
Ui is not on twitch but I do think she's the number one indie.

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Polka's 3rd guest.

>> No.17186404

>>17186077
looks about normal considering the room was up a bit late

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>>17186344
>Miko
>Towa
I think that's Aqua in the middle. not sure who is on the left.

>> No.17186552

>>17186483
Watame

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>>17186077
even though it is vr keep in mind this is the game shes playing

>> No.17186707

>>17186552
If that's Watame then Fbk is also confirmed.

>> No.17186708

>>17185644
>he doesnt know
https://youtu.be/ciFmY5wG1oQ

>> No.17186815

O-k
Why is the Ironmouse interview with Vox not breaking 10k?
It's just hovering under 9.5k 30 minutes in.

>> No.17186839

>>17186483
also
>flare

>> No.17186875

>>17186708
And he did the best thing he could, by reprofiling and making a smash hit like
Hololive vs Nijisanji - FUNNY MOMENTS

>> No.17186921

>>17186815
Basically just Ironmouse normal audience tuning in (might even be a debuff?)

>> No.17187034

>>17186815
Sea/jp audience

>> No.17187062

>>17186815
that is just mouse audience
no one outside south east asia gives a shit about vox.

>> No.17187147

>>17186629
>3/10
jesas

>> No.17187210

>>17187062
>>17187034
>>17186921
>be ironmouse
>think you found the new hot FOTM vtuber
>no one actually watches him, it's just chinks in a completely different timezone, 0 incline from it
kek

>> No.17187260

15K Mousey now, not that bad I guess.

>> No.17187298

>>17186708
i feel a little bit relieved that he's no longer farming us for content

i remember one of my posts was on the sankisei video and I was actually upset to see it there

>> No.17187312

>>17187260
she got a pink cat raid

>> No.17187379

>>17187210
she got raided didnt she?

>> No.17187384

>>17187062
And they won’t afterwards because he doesn’t stream for NA times.

>> No.17187440

>>17187384
not even the nijiEN general talks about him except for shipping him with reimu

>> No.17187445

>>17187312
>>17187379
We'll have to see if the raid sticks around. I think it's likely, there's no other alternative but Saruei.

>> No.17187495

>>17187445
is still a raid. when that shit gets into youtube this thread will die for good.

>> No.17187505

>>17187440
Really? Damn how did he become irrelevant in the fucking NijiEN split.

>> No.17187523
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Today's superchats

>> No.17187549

>>17187440
That probably just Reimu herself.

>> No.17187568

>>17187495
YouTube didn’t even list raiding as a priority. Only gifting memberships.

>> No.17187588

>>17187523
>9k kson
im still impressed with her oilbarons.

>> No.17187591

>>17187495
That's still a good raid if most raiders stay, which they currently are.

>> No.17187605

>>17187505
Because his audience is 99% horny Taiwanese teenage girls, not saying that's not a valid audience but there's not too many of those on 4chan

>> No.17187645

>>17187495
Also,
>this thread will die for good.
Finally I can be free.

>> No.17187658

>>17187568
another year of life then.
>>17187591
if they are afk then would still take them to her even if they are not there.

>> No.17187860

Judging by the waiting room the VR buff ain't saving this one's numbers. It might actually be 10-13k stream

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>>17187523
Probably has been discussed before, but Aqua is out for the top 5 highest total superchat. Enter Kanata

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>>17187860
small numbers for Gura today

>> No.17188062

>>17187523
>Mori 9k in 260 SCs
The age of deadbraps is over, the age of genuine true-to-form cucks has begun.

>> No.17188100

>>17188011
reclining...

>> No.17188131

>>17188011
yeah content looks like a super debuff content

>> No.17188194

>>17188131
its a shitty puzzle horror game from 2019. odds are gura only chose it due to the girl

>> No.17188278

>>17188131
It's 3D VRchat, she never drops below 15k for that

>> No.17188280

>>17188194
Is it a horror game?

>> No.17188321

Is youtube updating the fucking views every 30 seconds? No wonder there's difficulty regaining waiting room numbers or getting new ones

>> No.17188346

>>17188278
>vrchat
is a puzzle vr game not vrchat

>> No.17188368

>>17188280
from what i've seen its a bit creepy and some of the fails can lead to somewhat gruesome deaths apparently

>> No.17188407

>>17187904
Lamy is less than $2k away from overtaking Kuzuha at #7 as well

>> No.17188424

>>17188278
And yet even the waiting room was smaller than usual. Nowadays if you don't start with a fuckhuge waiting room Susan won't let you get good numbers, at least for EN

>> No.17188441

>Gura has less viewers than Mousey
What did we do to deserve this?

>> No.17188514

>>17188278
or reclines Idk, I personally stopped watching EN due to the recent shitstorm. Though I usually only watch Gura and Mumei either way.

>> No.17188544

>>17188441
she just started anon, and you just jinxed mousey gg

>> No.17188550

>>17188441
raids

>> No.17188597

>>17188441
It's been 5 minutes, shitposter. Also
>comparing youtube ccv to fucking twitch
Get out

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A little late, but I got some numbers from Mysta's birthday stream. Here are all the SC's thrown, sorted by currency. I feel this gives us a good view of the audience demographic. Also including a log of the SC's w/ username + message. I don't think its chinese antis trying to make Holo look bad, like some rrat that was spreading. This looks more like a large eastern fujo audience to me.

Bday Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1gYwBDYGM0
SC message log: https://ghostbin.com/2ow9i (copy to notepad for improved readability)

>> No.17188649

>>17188131
The game doesn't seem super interesting tho, but this is Gura so, maybe it'll increase later?

>> No.17188715

>>17188649
The VR buff might counter the dogshit game debuff and bring it to neutral.

>> No.17188841

>>17188715
no way, VR has a limit. this game looks boring.
12-13k peak

but there is chance for some funny clips.

>> No.17188880

>>17188649
based on it so far she really did just choose the game due to the little girl character
>>17188841
yeah there are going to be a lot of clips you can tell

>> No.17188956

>>17188880
Should've picked something with big tities instead.

>> No.17188958

>>17188880
she chose it becasue you can play it while sit down.
to avoid motion sickness

>> No.17189024

>>17188601
They're not just some eastern fujos, almost all of them are chinks specifically. Why sugarcoat it?
If anything, this gives more credence to the rrat.

>> No.17189032

>>17188958
Why was this game even VR anyway if you're not gonna move that much in game.

>> No.17189091

>>17188601
For their own sake, I hope they don’t get bored of their novelty.

>> No.17189139

>>17188841
I mean, I genuinely think CCVid is back for EN, seeing how they barely make their waiting rooms back, so we may never know.

>> No.17189300

>>17189139
oh it is just look at her yesterday waiting room and recovery.

Btw this game is a ryona so she is gonna scream.

>> No.17189483

>>17188601
Did he seriously only have 30 NA donors to over 200 Asian ones?

I know people talk about the Luxiem audience being SEA but I never thought it was skewed THIS heavily. A StarsEN that doesn't go after that audience is going to be a complete trainwreck.

>> No.17189769

>>17189483
There's a huge overlap between (former) edengumi fans and luxiem fans on the jp side.

>> No.17189776

>>17189483
Jesus I didn’t know it was that lopsided

>> No.17189842

>>17187523
January superchats so far
>Rushia - $138,374
>Chloe - $103,747
>Koyori - $92,381
>Pekora - $76,971
>Iroha - $69,554
>Vox - $66,214
>Ike - $62,740
>Matsuri - $61,339
>Mori - $55,269
>Nene - $54,973
>kson - $54,759
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Towa - $50,852
>Lamy - $50,785
>Subaru - $49,706
>Kanata - $49,358
>Kiara - $45,973
>Miko - $45,482
>Watame - $42,651
>Mysta - $41,994
>Lui - $36,105
>Chihiro - $35,384
>Laplus - $34,022
>Luna - $33,327
>Luca - $32,934
>Noel - $32,908
>Gura - $31,752
>Okayu - $31,034
>Amelia - $30,473
Chloe (unsurprisingly) joins the exclusive club of vtubers to make over $100k in consecutive months, consisting of Rushia (multiple), Coco (multiple), Pekora (Dec 20-Jan 21), Marine (Dec 20-Jan 21) and Lamy (Nov-Dec 21). Koyori will too if she can rustle up another 8k in 5 days.

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>> No.17190058

>>17186815
The Zhangs aren't awake to boost him.

>> No.17190096

>>17189483
558 superchats thrown, 50 from western currencies, 138 from JP, 295 from either HK or Taiwan. This was kind of similar with Vox as well, low number of western superchats, high number from Asia. Doesn't this mean that there isn't much of a western audience for male vtubers at the moment?

>> No.17190109

the deaths are a nice shock factor for this game

https://youtu.be/-6JXjaOxtHs?t=481

so it could be a nice clipbait game. She wont play it for long unfortunately.

>> No.17190120

>>17186815
Gonna be real funny when her collab with Mori gets double the viewership. That is going to make Luxiem's totally legit not zhang boosted viewers look really suspicious.

>> No.17190256

alright numbers, how many loli deaths are we getting by the end of this stream? you think gura quits before 5?

>> No.17190368

>>17190058
The (Island) zhangs and (formerly free) zhangs yes. If they're (mainland) zhangs VPNs would disguise it anyways.
Yea, based on the SCs, the paying ones are oh so heavily skewed to JP + HK/TW(+CN) with the viewership likely being a mix of poorfags from the SEA region, Jp + assorted zhangs.
Man, I really don't want to give credence to the unmedicated post earlier, but that viewcount on that BB video above and this isn't helping.

>> No.17190380

>>17188601
₪ 1
COP 1
DKK 1
RUB 1
ZAR 1
₹ 2
ARS 2
R$ 2
PLN 4
€ 5
£ 5
A$ 5
CA$ 5
SGD 16
MYR 19
₱ 25
$ 30
HK$ 97
¥ 138
NT$ 198

>> No.17190568

>>17190096
>Doesn't this mean that there isn't much of a western audience for male vtubers at the moment?
This is exactly what it means. It's exactly like these threads have been saying since Luxiem's debut: the NijiEN boys are pulling from the same pool as the NijiJP ones (with slightly more of a skew towards Taiwan and China), and barely if at all from either the existing western vtuber audience or a new, supposedly untapped one.

Cover's going to make a massive mistake if they push for an EN branch of Holostars with the expectation that a market for them exists outside of Asia.

>> No.17190569

>>17189842
>Vox - $66,214
>Ike - $62,740
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Mori - $55,269
>Kiara - $45,973

Interesting

>> No.17190572

>>17186143
japs don't use twitch

>> No.17190580

>>17190380
NijiSEA...

>> No.17190616

>>17188601
>overwhelmingly NT
I don't think this tells the story you want it to tell.

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>>17179908

>> No.17190678

>>17188841
The stream is great though as Gura is in top form with her little quips.

>> No.17190687

My real question is why EN vtubers capture the Taiwan audience so thoroughly.

>> No.17190689

>>17190568
Cover did not make a decision based on this 1 month old branch, anon. Even they're aware of what debut buff means and even if you think Luxiem are out of it (which isn't supported by how they're still winding down), when they made the "wink wink holostars" references NijiEN were:
-well within debut buff
-hadn't even reached the peak of it with their high CCV streams
Only this unmedicated board things Yagoo was personally monitoring Luxiem and shouted DOOMP HOLOSTARS EN when he saw Mysta get 10k on a stream.

>> No.17190708

>>17190568
Will Yagoo's dumb luck finally run out?
Seems like his personal project is the only one that isn't improving (Stars).
>>17190645
T-this is a blue board.

>> No.17190777

Gura actually gonna make it to 15k with CCVid and this debuff shit. I understimated VRchat power. Sadly the massive Poketournament overlap only leaves her 12 minutes left to do it.

>> No.17190833

>>17190777
i think its more the suspense of her dying

>> No.17190924

>>17190833
yeah it has funny deaths and gura anxiety is entertaining to watch.
Not a good streaming game but nice for clips.

>> No.17190960

>>17190833
Aaaand the views just plumetted. Classic fucking youtube, takes 20 minutes to incline 1k but when people leave it drops instantly, don't need to verify that part.

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>>17184044
>calli paid for these clipper to damage control

>> No.17191321

>>17186815
Niji is a debuff

>> No.17191489

>>17190368
Just look at the superchats and see how fucking horny they are, as funny as the thought of the wheelbarrow brigade acting like that is it's clearly not true. I'm sure there's some mainlanders watching but there's still mainlanders watching Hololive as well, only a tiny minority of people in the PRC are terminally online ultra-nationalist weirdos.

>> No.17191596

https://youtu.be/gIBrf79Cbk4

>> No.17191727

>>17191489
Yea, I need some coffee, just waking up and the brain is running all funky and entertaining schizo nonsense.

>> No.17191806

>>17190569
Luxiem is a massive success, anon.

>> No.17192052

>>17189842
Vox and Ike above Mysta who had a birthday that month. Fucking wild.

>> No.17192112

>>17190960
>takes 20 minutes to incline 1k but when people leave it drops instantly, don't need to verify that part.
Hey you, stop noticing things. Go back to sleep.

>> No.17192272

>>17190569
imagine comparing akas with a 1-month old chuba who'd gone through all kinds of milestones kek typical nijicope

>> No.17192461

>>17192052
ike didnt have a birthday but had a colab where shu and helped with the free SC meme with jops.
And had a karaoke after aprty.

>> No.17192639

>>17189842
>Despite all the money deadbeats are giving to Mori lately, Luxiem already overshadowed her and all of HoloEN.
Well, it seems NijiEN finally surpassed HoloEN in something.

>> No.17192901

what's with all the zhang false-flagging with nijicope posts?

>> No.17192919

holy shit what a fuckin piece of shit game

>> No.17192969

>>17189842
>>17192639
As much as people like to use the meme of "cultural differences" to explain numbers away, the Luxiem guys truly benefit from one of the few true cultural differences between eastern and western vtuber audiences. Western viewers on the whole will never superchat as freely and at as high an overall volume as Asian ones, full stop.

>> No.17193072

>>17192969
yeah just look at the big western streamers who stream on twitch (Ludwig, dr disrespect, valkyrie )

>> No.17193100

>>17192969
For god's sake, it's their first month. Pipe down.

>> No.17193182

>>17193072
i meant to say who stream on youtube

>> No.17193256

>Game hits you bad end that's unskippable
>2k viewers that take 1 hour to verify leave thinking stream is over
>even if they come back they're back to being verified
Sasuga Susan's streaming platform

>> No.17193269

>>17190568
There never will be ENstars. Remember that Stars was yagoo's personal project. Meaning he was the only one who were in for the ride if he had to fund them out of his own personal pocket. They were basically force their way into HoloPro

>> No.17193292

the game fucked her numbers with the fakeout ending

>> No.17193423

>>17192969
the luxiem growth has them with some milestones
100k, 200k, first karaoke,etc.
after they run trough those and subs keep slowing down then you can get an idea of how much they will get regularly.
which pretty much only vox will get since hes SC and Zatsu are only SC requests.

>> No.17193639

>>17193423
This. Niggers will always ignore these facts and spam incline non stop

>> No.17193670

>>17193100
>>17193423
This holds true for most any eastern audience compared to western audiences, though. Like, just look at the sheer lunacy of this >>17190096 for an EN streamer.

Do I expect them to continue raking in this amount of SCs forever? Of course not. Do I expect them to consistently hit above their weight class in terms of proportional SC to CCV compared to other EN streamers who don't also have more eastern-skewed viewership, though? Yes.

>> No.17193882

Anyway as expected the overlap measn the ccvid makes it more obvious for EN
Mumei hasnt recover her waiting room
Sanas graph is an L
and lets not even satrt with the IDs.

>> No.17193894

Reine and Sana are not going to reach their waiting rooms today at this rate.

>> No.17193905

>>17193292
That shit was very painful to watch.

>> No.17193939

>Literally none of the viewers who were tricked by the fakeout ending are returning
Really now, Susan? Usually people will notice "hey a stream is still going". I seriously doubt this isn't happening here.

>> No.17193965

>>17190960
>Tab out to comment on the stream on /vt/ or discord or twitter or wherever.
>Get dropped as a viewer instantly.
We just don't know how many people are watching AT ALL.

>> No.17194018

>>17193894
>almost 5k waiting to 2k
brutal

>> No.17194038

holoen daily = 20k-30k
nijien daily = 12k-15k

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>>17194018
Reine has it even worse lol

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Why the fuck are cuckbeats like this?

>> No.17194355

>>17194209
>Dropped to becoming a 3 view
Being HoloID is pain.

>> No.17194364

>>17193939
it happen almost at the same time as the pokeomn tourney started so could be they changed to that
Anyway there is some heavy overlap which is fucking the cvv

>> No.17194452

>>17194341
Calli needs more money for condom, lean and alcohol please understand.

>> No.17194458

>>17190960
December 2020 - Tabbed out listeners and embeds no longer count.
December 2021 - Incoming verification much slower than outgoing (which is almost instant) and a percentage of viewers are shadowbanned.
All of which is inconsistent between region and viewer type.
Is this right?

>> No.17194582

>>17193423
>100k, 200k, first karaoke,etc.
And one month debut celeb stream,
birthday stream
Lmao

>> No.17194605

>>17194341
>>17194452
Why are poorfags seething?

>> No.17194684

>>17194458
Speculation wise, this is what we got. CCVid seems to be an entirely different thing, or maybe it was some sort of bug with incoming verification since they had to rever it.

>> No.17194747

>>17192919
3/10 rating, Gura only chose this because of the girl.

>> No.17194983

>>17194341
Ccvid is back!

>> No.17195053

>>17194458
after many experiments with my various accounts, it seems like if you disable history, you will never get shadowbanned from ccv. new verification might be related to the recommendation system. kind of make sense if they're trying to stop the account hacking connected to the ripple scams. they're exploiting the fact that if they use established accounts with history to watch their stream, it will get their stream to go viral via recommendations.

>> No.17195220

>>17194341
Thats literally...way lower than Terraria and than her avg.
In special on a big event like this.
And no, collab debuff doesn't work because Terraria was also a collab.
...did tourists and cuckbeats bought into the meme it was her comeback stream and blew it all on it?
Because I saw the terraria beind advertised as her comeback stream after the drama by some dramafaggots outside /here/.

>> No.17195273

>>17194747
And Gura forgot the most basic game mechanics (pointing laser to give directions) and refuse to read chat for instructions killed her last potential to push the ccv higher before the tournament.

>> No.17195321

>>17195053
Imagine being so fucking incompetent you kill your streaming platform to get a few streams you can just have 3 interns live ban by watching the "most viewed" tab in regular 8 hour shifts.

>> No.17195358

>>17195053
Figured it was something like that.
That's retarded AF. JUST BAN THE OFFENDING STREAMS FFS. It's not like they aren't super suspicious anyways. Just make a blanket "No Cryptoshit" instead of fucking around with all this garbage.

>> No.17195539

Holly shit sana is 6k!

>> No.17195764

>>17194341
Because only the minority of Mori's paypig learned the Mori drama through here and the rest is through Dramatubers who will filter the lean thing, her retarded actions and getting downvoted in reddit and focus on being attack by antis.

>> No.17195849

what is up with krampus chama coming to this thread?

>> No.17195856

>>17195273
She also looks at chat for help so that kills anybody who is interested in the puzzle solving part

>> No.17195886

>>17195358
it's a whack a mole problem that will just continue to escalate since they'll just use the next hacked account. it's just the ripple scammer now but if other scammer figured out the mechanics, they'll be flooded by different scams. would make sense to fix the weakness of the recommendations system but obviously their solution isn't working.

>> No.17195941

>Gura
>16k likes on a sub 15k stream
>Not even 2 hours in
Guys, I think CCVID might be back

>> No.17195963

>>17195539
I think Sana is the only one who gives a shit about this tourney lol. In terms of prep.

>> No.17196032

>>17195941
It is but this isn't a super obvious example of it.

>> No.17196140

>>17195941
And the girls will not complain especially Gura who wants to have a smaller audience

>> No.17196151

>>17194341
Because the majority of the fanbase dont care about drama and just wanna watch cute anime girls playing game

>> No.17196224

Why is Moris tournament so low? Is it unironically people not watching her or was there a cull recently?

>> No.17196231

>>17195886
Sigh. Yea. The only real way to 'end' that sort of thing is have someone doing manual review and immediately shitcanning streams that are obvious scams, but Google is never going to have people reviewing ANY Youtube videos manually if it can help it (due to the associated costs/potential mental trauma etc).
What utter garbage.

>> No.17196257

>>17196140
But she doesn't have a smaller audience, it's just an incorrect public display of viewers. Besides, this definitely should be the job of the fucking managers to notice their stats getting hit (especially since Cover were aware of CCVid according to Botan) and talk to youtube about it.

>> No.17196304

>>17196151
We know that people wanna watch cute girls but what does it have to do with Mori though?

>> No.17196328

>>17196224
Pokemon isn't a buff in the west.

>> No.17196368

>>17195941
nah some of her audience probably went to the tourney. HoloEN at 30k+ right now, so Gura's viewers are her core 10k

>> No.17196449

>>17196224
1) Yes, CCVid is back for HoloEN, NijiEN girls, and HoloID. Basically if you have significant EOP audiences overlapping with HoloEN viewerships, you're fucked because of the council relay.
2)It's fucking pokemon, it was never going to have huge numbers with EN audiences.
3)Gura still overlapping and holding 11k viewers.

>> No.17196494

>>17196140
Gura has her CCV hidden while streaming so it doesn't matter to her. I doubt she even looks at her analytics later on either.

>> No.17196533

>>17196368
There was a fakeout ending that lasted for like 5 minutes worth of credits. People just went "oh nice Gura stream ending" and switched to pokemon or left complete.y

>> No.17196558

>>17196224
is pokemon.
still 20k across 3 pov
23 if you couont ids
is fine for the kind of debuff they are playing.

>> No.17196588

>>17196449
>CCVid is back for HoloEN, NijiEN girls, and HoloID
how does that make any sense. How would it affect EOPs only

>> No.17196731

>>17196588
The theory is that it affects them becasue the channels are set to japan.

>> No.17196734

>>17194209
She had the worst case of CCVid poll I've even, I maybe it's on the archive

>> No.17196886

>>17196731
That makes no sense either

>> No.17196899

>>17196304
Go make a new thread if you want an answer

>> No.17196928

>>17196588
It's not just EOP, but it's heavily EOP due to the relay, just like the last cull was Heavily JP first due to the christmas relay.
Much like last time, the more people who end up getting flagged, the faster this snowballs out of controls likely due to >>17195053
(You) become flagged for review, and thus people who share your recommends ALSO potentially become "flagged" as well. Which explains the runaway nonsense that occurred over the holidays as more and more people were watching things and causing the shared recommended viewers to also get flagged. It'd explain how VSPO/HAL/Nijisanji viewers ended up flagged, since there's likely viewer recommendation overlaps in Japan.

>> No.17196929

>>17196588
It doesn't affect EOPs only. It affects people who participated in their big fucking relay, which flagged their accounts. We've seen it spread from HoloJP last time, then increase with EN's own relay.
They then didn't actually "fix" it but basically reset the CCVid thing, and Council did their own relay. Hence at the moment, a part of the people who watched the council relay are culled. If HoloJP does another relay they will absolutely rape the entire japanese vtuber landscape again.

>> No.17196936

>>17196588
Pretty sure everyone is affected to a certain degree, just the matter of who got hit more.
People forgetting Watame's ~80% participation poll yesterday when it's supposedly fixed for JP?

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>>17194209
>>17196734 (me)
here it is
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