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1718726 No.1718726 [Reply] [Original]

>loud
>says the dumbest shit causing awkward reactions
>quotes memes
>never shuts up
>Still not as hated as shitbird

How does she do it?

>> No.1718774

>>1718726
By not having schitzos make a billion threads about her. Keep it up :)

>> No.1718805

Because she's actually cute

>> No.1718810

>>1718726
She's genuine

>> No.1718834

the austrian accent/chicken voice is what people subconsciously loathe about the other one, the rest is basically a bonus

>> No.1718842 [SPOILER] 
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1718842

she's not orange

>> No.1718845

>>1718726
by not being total attention whore like some shitburd

>> No.1718869

>>1718726
nah, i hate her. Her flirting act is forced and cringe, it makes Kiara flirt to Calli look natural

>> No.1718914

Her being loud is genuine

>> No.1718927

>>1718869
>Her flirting act is forced and cringe
That's the point

>> No.1718935

>>1718726
Less abrasive. I don't dislike Kiara but she has moments in collabs where she's clearly trying to control the conversation while Ollie is more of an over-enthusiastic participant.

>> No.1718968

I like Kiara, but I think part of it is that Ollie doesn't put her foot in her mouth as much Kiara. Sometimes chicken says things that are pretty abrasive or rude, even though she clearly doesn't have any malice behind it

>> No.1719002

Why is kiara still living rent free inside /vt/'s head?

>> No.1719018

I believe the Ollie one braincell routine way more than the Kiara one. And also the voice. I’d say it’s not Kiaras fault but we established it’s for show so please stop

>> No.1719062

Nice try KFP, Ollie will never be hated

>> No.1719112

ollie is firmly doing annoying zoomer little sister character and kiara is doing a hodgepodge of menhera/genki/comedian archetypes with the added handicap of forced teetee with mori. kiara's whole identity is a mess.

>> No.1719118

>>1718834
I honestly think it's this. Hololive EN skews extremely US-heavy, and people in the US aren't used to that accent

>> No.1719122

>>1718968
Is it just cause of the culture she was raised in? Even the rest of ID or the Americans in EN know what they should and should not say.

>> No.1719160

Ollie a just a bit cringe, not a self-centered attention whore.

>> No.1719184

>>1719118
the structure of your teeth also affects how you pronounce certain words and well, the results are obvious. she just has an unpleasant mixture of vocal things that aren't necessarily her fault.

>> No.1719196

>>1718968
>>1719118
It's a German thing. I don't think she can help it

>> No.1719210

>>1718935
I think her voice and the EN branch really need to do more together so they can develop a better dynamic where the chicken doesn't come off as the driver of conversations and everything in the collabs.

>> No.1719284

>>1718726
ADD. Yeah it makes her cringe but its genuine, she doesn't put up some stupid front it's just her being herself.

>> No.1719310

she can read the atmosphere.

that's pretty much the only difference.

>> No.1719327

>>1719196
germans are truly the most unlikable people on the planet.

>> No.1719333

>>1718935
Mostly this, for me.
Also Kiara comes off as just trying way too hard, her entire character just seems like she threw every meme she could think of into it, to see what would stick. It just came out as a tryhard cringefest. This is really a case of "Keep it simple, stupid". Look at Gura. Her entire character is "Shark". Period. End of story. Simple. And she's one of the most popular vtubers in the world. Start basic, let the memes create themselves. Kiara was trying to force the memes from day 1.

>> No.1719358

kiara has low social intelligence despite being more superficially outgoing than the other girls.

>> No.1719462

>>1718726
She supports her fellow Hololive talents rather than trying to use them.

>> No.1719639

Ollie is loud, obnoxious, and silly but goes with the flow.

Kiara is loud, obnoxious, and silly but tries to control the flow, fighting it and wrestling it at all times, there's a difference

>> No.1719649

>>1719002
She's the embodiment of every Stacy in school Anons wanted to hatefuck.

>> No.1719684

>>1719639
Worse. She tries to push others out of the center of attention. Kiara won't even play off of others, while Ollie will cooperate.

>> No.1719692 [DELETED] 

>>1719649
>Stacy
Someone post her goddamn bird nose and gap teeth.

>> No.1719716

>>1718726
>never shuts up
This isn't true, at least not compared to Kiara. Go compare the latest minecraft tour with ame to the HoloEN uno collab. It's like night and day.

>> No.1719754

>>1719716
Can we trade Ollie for Kiara? We're willing to sweeten the deal with Mori on a 50% timeshare.

>> No.1719778

>>1718726
Her cringe feels natural, and in turn incredibly endearing. She's also not trying to force her way into places she doesn't belong. She invites people, not begs to be invited.

>> No.1719786
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>>1719778
She isn't trying hard she genuinely is a spurgy autist

>> No.1719795

>>1719002
>living rent free inside /vt/'s head
Newnigger and a KFP. Gross.

>> No.1719803

>>1718726
yeah, I remember thinking Ollie is similar to Kiara.
i think it's just that Kiara worried about her popularity, so it created the context that everything she's doing is about gaining attention.

>> No.1719816

>>1719803
>yeah, I remember thinking Ollie is similar to Kiara.
I feel ashamed for drawing the parallel now. Yeah, there are superficial overlaps, but they're fundamentally different at the core.

>> No.1719927

>>1719816
Ollie's clearly in it just so she can interact with the people she's simped for while continuing to stream minecraft and apex.
Kiara wants fame.

>> No.1719947

>>1718726
It's amazing how Kiara antis can somehow make everything about her.

>> No.1719952

>>1719927
Yeah, it's so weird watching them now understanding this context.

>> No.1719971

>>1718726
Ollie is a sane person pretending to be crazy.
Kiara is a crazy person pretending to be sane.

>> No.1720064

>>1718726
You're genius for starting this topic, ive done dozen of kiara thread and not many of them could give me this satisfaction. The replies were really amazing, im so proud of you.

>> No.1720093

>>1718726
i like yo cut G was pretty funny

>> No.1720177
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1720177

>>1719310
>>1719358
Kiara's problems with reading air seems strange considering how much time she has spent in Japan, although it helps explain her struggles in her career previously. I think those troubles lead her to want to succeed and inadvertently end up acting selfishly at times.
She's a rude menhera but doesn't means well. I can see why she gets along so well with Nene, considering similar idol backgrounds and Nene being dumb, naive and good natured enough to not notice by Kiara's personality flaws.

>> No.1720500

Ollie = based and retardpilled
Kiara = cringe and selfish

>> No.1720544

>>1720500
this is stupidly accurate

>> No.1720555
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1720555

ollie is a literal joy to watch. she always sounds like she's having the absolute best time of her life. that girl clearly had a mega passion to get into hololive and she's loving every second of it. good for her

>> No.1720627

>>1718935
>she has moments in collabs where she's clearly trying to control the conversation
>Holo 6 month anniversary
>Holo Uno
So you mean....all the time?

>> No.1720641

>>1720555
Her opening song is kino.

>> No.1720649

>>1718726
>>loud
yes
>>says the dumbest shit causing awkward reactions
yes
>>quotes memes
yes
>>never shuts up
yes
>>Still not as hated as shitbird
yes

I don't get your point. Ollie is cute as fuck and entertaining. Also her collab with ame tonight was amazing. Nice bait!

>> No.1720698

>>1720649
She's a horndog done right.
>Ame: Any food you guys want to eat?
>Ollie: You.
that shit was smooth, too

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1720734

>>1719639
She does have alot of experience wrestling

>> No.1720738

more natural and less attention seeking

>> No.1720780

KFP thread

>> No.1720787

>>1720698
Kiara's baby round in Uno makes me realize she's not extroverted, but just socially unaware and loud
>"Im gonna shit my pants real good"
Seriously, where does a conversation go after this is said, even in the best of circumstances

>> No.1720867 [DELETED] 

>>1718774
>>1718726
>>1718845
>>1719160
>>1719310
>>1719684
>>1719639
>>1719754
>>1720500
>>1720544
>>1720738
Samefag SEAnig

>> No.1720928
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1720928

>>1718726
She can read the mood & wants to learn.
>shitbird
Kiara's Super Bunny collab with Ame is great though.
Wait, why I'm using Ame as the standard collab test?

>> No.1720961

>>1720928
Ame is like a mirror. She causes other streamers to reveal who they really are.

>> No.1720998

>>1718726
It's hard to be hated when almost no one knows you exist.

>> No.1721010

>>1720867
KFP cope

>> No.1721026

>>1720961
I love it when she just ghosts the hyper aggressive flirting forcing awkward silences. "I got a waiting list"

>> No.1721043

>>1720641

It's the night of the walking dead
But this could be the highlight so instead
Turn up the bass, the treble, make the ground tremble

Here comes trouble

She's a monster
But not the kind you think
Turn the rules around 'cuz she a type of unique
She go the look and the voice of a nightmare siren
But deep inside you know that's how you like 'em
You've had the pretty, the pure, the slightly immature
But you've never had Kureiji that's for sure
She got the rifle charged to shoot
A zombie can't possible be this cute
So what do we know about the monster world
And in particular, know about the zombie girl
Because, face it, classic's turned undead
The new z-cup idol's turning heads
Slice me, bite me, turn me blue
You loli zombie, show me what you do
I'm a degenerate veteran villain ready to simp
I can regenerate health
So, come and give me the whip

Zombrades raise your arms
Let's go meet up in the 'yard
Drop that [G] and drop it hard
And get ready for crazy Ollie
Go and grab your friends
Everybody, 'live or dead
Shake a leg and nod your head
And get ready for crazy Ollie

Once upon a time a couple of years ago
There lived a girl, and suddenly, it was her to go
So tragically, before she even got married
But magically woke up when she got buried
Didn't isekai, got up and said

[I'm breathing? Why?]
[I'm supposed to be dead!]

She looked around, at the ground, at her face in the pond

[What the hell just happened?]
[What is going on?]

Poor little Ollie
She got not time to panic
Run back home
And when she got passed that alley
She could've sworn it was right here
But then it wasn't
But, oh she was right though
Except her house is now a ramen shop
And so pure little Ollie
She gonna take it all back and that's her backstory, folks

Rise up from your graves
Pile the bodies, make the waves
There's a world to overtake
Everybody's going crazy
Take back what you can
Be an idol for your fans
Seiso or comedian
Everybody loves you, Ollie

[Ladies and Gentlemen]
[The follow segment may not be suitable]
[For those with very sensitive ears]

[Headphone Users]
[You have been warned]

*screaming followed by Kureiji Ollie rap*

Zombrades raise your arms
Let's go meet up in the 'yard
Drop that [G] and drop it hard
And get ready for crazy Ollie
Go and grab your friends
Everybody, 'live or dead
Shake a leg and nod your head
And get ready for crazy Ollie

Rise up from your graves
Pile the bodies, make the waves
There's a world to overtake
Everybody's going crazy
Take back what you can
Be an idol for your fans
Seiso or comedian
Everybody loves you, Ollie

>> No.1721173

>>1720867
Taisho

>> No.1721244

>>1720928
This. Ollie has her most lewd comments clipped and that is all people think of but she isn't a relentlessly loud shitbird who talks over everyone all the time in almost every collab. KFP really can't cope with the fact that people hate their chicken boss for being an obnoxious cunt and every attempt at a comparison fails because nobody else is that much of an obnoxious cunt.

>> No.1721267

>>1718726
Wasn't unlucky enough to trigger the 5 dedicated losers that won't shut the fuck up about her.

>> No.1721437

>>1718726
Her design isn't shit

>> No.1721473
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1721473

>>1718726
Like others in the thread have already said, she feels genuine, that's why. I'm not gonna sit here and try to figure out whether or not Kiara is actually genuine, but the point is that she doesn't feel that way to me while Ollie totally does. Ollie's a loud moron, but she's a fucking fun loud moron that feels like she's trying her best.

>> No.1721613

>>1718726
Unlike Kiara she doesnt come off as needing to be the center of a collab. She knows how to let shit breathe and how to read the room unlike the other girl. Not only that you can sorta just feel how genuine she is, its not false hype or excitement, she really is just happy to be there and have fun. I wouldnt be surprised if she was in the top 5 of loving her job as a holo.
I say this not as a Kiara anti but more as just a psych major inb4 schizo Kiara very much developed some sort of superiority / attention complex during her time as an idol and escort to the point where I think she feels she needs to constantly be seen and known or she feels empty/left behind. Of course that isnt to excuse her utter rude and shit behavior in collabs like the 6month collab, but its obvious there is more there than a simple stacey being a stacey. Shes fucked in the head more than anyone realizes.

>> No.1721824

>>1720867
your next line would be:
EVERYONE HERE IS INDOG

>> No.1721863

>>1721824
EVERYONE HERE IS IN--
...

>> No.1722009

>>1720627
What was kiara’s average views in the 6 month aniv stream compared to the other 4?

>> No.1722106

>>1721863
Nani!?!

>> No.1722183

>>1718842
SHE FUCKING WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.1722223

>>1718726
Nice way to build up hate towards the zoombie though, OP.

>> No.1722257

Ollie is organically cute and I don't feel like im watching someone put on an act to seem authentic, i feel like im watching someone legit be themself and have a good time while doing it.
Also shes incredibly respectful and supportive of her senpai and colleagues in vtubing. Shes here to lift everyone up with her

>> No.1722259

>>1722223
>Hate
By who? No one ITT hates her except migrating KFP false-flaggers.

>> No.1722268

>>1722259
And anyone who thinks that infighting within the same company is retarded.

>> No.1722285

>>1722223
Only if you're a delusional KFP fag, which makes you meaningless anyway.

>> No.1722300

>1722223
Literally no one hates the zoomer zombie you retarded falsefaggot

>> No.1722690

>>1719952
context can be weird. it forms a bias, and actions are seen through its lens. that's why i must keep my strongest rrats secret.

>> No.1722761

>>1721613
So many Kiara antis today

>> No.1722779

At first I really didn't like Ollie, but after the last few collabs with Ame and co I've changed my mind. Seems like she just needs a "straight man" to work her comedy routine against.

>> No.1722780

has she farted again yet?

>> No.1722790

The other thing I've noticed about Ollie is she is everywhere. There this indie I've known that has less than 10 viewers a stream, and yet somehow Ollie visited them.

>> No.1722797

Ollie is more genuine. When she comes to a Holo or homo stream, she'll still be there two hours later because she actually watches them. When Kiara comes to another stream, she leaves as soon as she gets noticed. Both are networking, but Ollie does something she likes.

>> No.1722810

>>1722761
Seems like weekends Asian prime time is the worst usually. Things flared up hard last weekend too.

>> No.1722821

ollie knows when to shut up

>> No.1722893

Ollie is fucking shit and a braphog, but at least she's not a sociopath like Takanashi "I MUST INTERRUPT YOU" Kiara

Really wish SEAniggers weren't so fucking lazy and would start tweeting her hate comments again

>> No.1722980

>>1718726
By being Indonesian.

>> No.1723035

>>1718726
Because hating on chicken has become a meme.

>> No.1723077

>>1718726
>Makes a thread about Zombie
>Inserts Kiara
>Turns it into a chicken hate thread №235435349
Fuck you OP
Zoomer Zombie is still superior tho

>> No.1723109 [DELETED] 

I hate both of them, one's an annoying SEAnigger and the other is an annoying lesbian kraut

>> No.1723118

>>1719118
I'm fine with the German accent. She's really just abrasive.

Ollie is loud yes, but she doesn't talk over her genmates when collabing and make every topic about her

>> No.1723133

>>1723109
>lesbian
He doesn't know

>> No.1723158

>>1723133
Yeah yeah I know her roommate takes dick

>> No.1723358

>>1721863
I'M IN

>> No.1723473

>>1722790
They befriend her on twitter, there was once she visited some indie vtuber celebration which she never collab or interact with on stream

She's approachable person

>> No.1723669

Ollie acts like Kiara because that's her character. She can turn it off when appropriate. Kiara is just Kiara 24/7. Also Ollie's design is sincerely better than Kiara's.

>> No.1723788

>>1718869
her name is basically kuringy ollie its what you come for

>> No.1723814

KFPs feel like that usual guy in an abusive relationship where his woman is never satisfied no matter what he does for her, and in the end of the day she's sucking nigger dicks behind his back because why not.
Oh and btw Ollie is fine in my book. She's loud, but with a passion. And passion here is welcome any time.

>> No.1723857

Is this thread bait to pit two fanbases against each other, or is OP and those supporting him here being mostly genuine?

>> No.1723879

>>1718726
she seems like shes enjoying herself

>> No.1723892

>>1720734
>pic
who?

>> No.1723908

>>1723857
I was expecting "is OP (...) mostly a faggot" and had to re-read to confirm you didn't write that.

>> No.1723934

>>1723908
I mean, that would sort of apply to both options anyway.

>> No.1724508

>>1718726
The dumb shit she says causes ironic awkwardness rather than actual awkwardness.

>> No.1724605

>>1718726
She's genuine, and despite being loud, she isn't actually rude at all.

>> No.1725102

She's genuine and cute as fuck

>> No.1725187

>>1722821
>>1720555
Pretty much a combination of these two facts, while she still talks a mile a minute and screams all the time she knows not to hog the spotlight or all of the attention from her collab partners. At least her holo senpais, haven't seen her in a collab outside of holo.

>> No.1725218

>>1718834
Not even subconsciously. I'm German and other German-speaking peoples accents in English filtere hard. Business meetings held in English are my worst nightmare on my word schedule

>> No.1725251

>>1719112
the average hololive fan seems to be 14 or 15 (could be wrong), so ollie's appeal might be that shes like a girl their age more than anything

>> No.1726926

>>1723857
The thread is clearly bait but most responses are giving actual explanations of why ollie and kiara feel different

>> No.1727357

>>1718726
She's a sane person acting crazy, not the other way around.

>> No.1727536

her accent makes her sound like a mean bitch when she probably doesn't mean it, like that whole "gura are you crying" thing. kiara is also probably desperate to hang onto any clout she can based on her roommate's history.

>> No.1728295

>>1725218
Oh shit, I'm German too, and Germans speaking English makes me feel uneasy and disgusted. I personally never speak English for that reason, even though I'm C2 level.

>> No.1728391

>>1722761
>muh anti
There's dumb schizos who spam anti Kiara shit, but many people casually simply don't like Kiara without going out of their way to blast it everywhere, but when asked they all give the same reasons, that are perfectly sensible to the point that they never get contradicted.

>> No.1728504 [DELETED] 

>>1728391
>casually
>Taking time to comment to an anti thread to shit talk.
Yea, pick one seanig anti.

>> No.1728550

>>1728504
>why do you dislike x?
>*explains why I dislike x"
>omg only an anti would answer!!!!
The absolute state.

>> No.1728829

>>1718810
this

>> No.1729002

To me it has felt simply like that Ollie is the zoomer version and Kiara is the boomer version of mostly the same energy. They can both be cringe in their own way, but which is the "acceptable" type of cringe for you depends on your own tastes and probably age.

>> No.1729147

>>1729002
I never cringe so they're both fine to me

>> No.1729206

>>1729147
Makes a lot of sense to like both since they're fairly similar energy-wise.

>> No.1729207

>>1718810
>>1718914
>>1719284
>>1721473
>>1721613
>Genuine
have you not heard her real voice during ring fit?
loud spaz it 100% a fabrication

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>>1718726
>How does she do it?
She shares her brap air with us

>> No.1729294

>>1729207
Faking voice =/= Faking personality, anon.

>> No.1729321

>>1729294
voice is personality so yes it is

>> No.1729405

Ironically Ollie is more chill than Kiara despite being labelled "zoomer" so I enjoy her more. I can watch both just fine though, but Ollie is the only one I'm subbed to.

>> No.1729441

>>1729321
Her fake voice makes me happy and real one makes me diamonds.
I see no problem here

>> No.1729447

>>1729321
The fuck

>> No.1729492

>>1729207
try to run 5 laps and then speak while breathing heavily
>>1729321
2 different noun with different semantic, 2 different thing

>> No.1729500

>>1729447
if you whisper you are a different person than who you are which is why people who love asmr hate normal content and people who hate asmr like normal content

>> No.1729601

This >>1729492
Also, she uses her real voice on member-only streams, it's not much different, just a bit more calm and less squeaky.

>> No.1729612

>>1719184
kek

>>1719118
> Implying only americans dislike her
No issue with her accent but with her voice. Which she does on purpose.

But ultimately it's not even the voice, look at Coco: she also has an annoying voice, a not so great design and is orange, but she's loved by most people.

Kiara is annoying for multiple reasons: she's an attention whore who can't read the room, has no self-awareness. feels disingenuous most of the time, and has the worst fanbase. Ollie is an attention whore as well, but she has none of those issues and comes across as cute as a result.

>> No.1730264

>>1719692
Stfu, she’s cute. I totally would

>> No.1730820

>>1718726
I want to see an Ollie/Kiara collab.
Imagine the absolute dumpster fire it would be.

>> No.1730909

>>1718726
Ollie is an extrovert with genuine excitement and passion on what she's doing, she can also read the atmosphere as not to overwhelm and flow along with his partner on stream
on the other hand
Kiara's mannerism feels off and insincere, like she's tryharding to be the version of her that she's trying to project and failing to do so

>> No.1730936

>>1730820
They've already done one.

>> No.1731004

kiara is too cringe for me but she's not the worst in some collabs sometimes. ollie can literally ruin any collab. that apex stream w/ ame and mel was aids bc ollie is trash.
i think i'd hate her if i had to watch more of her

>> No.1731028

>>1718726
Is that girl that you cant hate. I dont know the reason thou

>> No.1731056

>>1718726
This is how I see it, or to be more precise hear it :
Kiara loudness, voice acting and energetic tone does not feel right to me. There's also her habit of steering the conversation when collab, which isn't all bad, I mean that's just how show host is. I don't hate her, but there's something in me feel uncomfortable when I hear her voice.

On other side Ollie loudness, although I don't like her sudden shouts, it give me more of 'passionate joy' feeling in it. Her playful and clearly joking tone on flirting with girls also give me more positive impressions of her.

Sometimes ask myself this : is it because I know their roommates? Am I biasing my opinion of her character as Kiara because of her roommate? Perhaps that is why, and also why I'm favoring Ollie more because she's just the usual noisy Bandung zoomer girl.

>> No.1731067

>>1718726
I love this zombie!

>> No.1731076

>>1718726
Her obnoxiousness is a vehicle to engaging the other girls rather than trampling over them to suck up as much of the spotlight as humanly possible.
Also doesn't have bad roommate history fueling the fire.

>> No.1731090

>>1720649
The first collab between those two was awkward as fuck. I had to close the stream because of the cringe

>> No.1731331

>>1718726
You forgot modding vShojo on her channel, therefore reducing the pedigree of the Hololive brand.

>> No.1731424

>>1718726
I've never had a little sister but Ollie feels like a little sister to me. I want to protect her and pat her head and tease her when she has a crush on some dorky guy.

>> No.1731425

>>1729500
>if you whisper you are a different person than who you are
>people who love asmr hate normal content and people who hate asmr like normal content
each of those statements doesn't make sense, and they don't correlate at all
first you don't change personality by just whispering, whether you're speaking or whispering doesn't define you as a person
second, liking asmr and liking "normal" content doesn't cancel each other out, what if you like both the same, what if the "normal" contents also include asmr in it, asmr also doesn't equal whispering as asmr is all kind of audio stimulatory focused content that doesn't necessarily mean whispering

>> No.1731666

>>1718726
Anon I don't like noisy vtubers like Kiara or Ollie but I don't litter the board with posts about it every fucking 5 minutes

>> No.1731702
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>>1718726
she's cute

>> No.1731741

>the only Ollie thread alive is the fake one
sigh...
Anyway, is there an Ollie's fandiscord server? How is it?

>> No.1731948

Both are shit. One is diarrhea, one is a bloody stool.

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People don't understand that Kiara being smug and loud is a parody and she does it because she finds it funny. Ironically Westerners viewers are polite enough that they get intimidated by Kiara's behavior but not enough to recognize she's playing a boke like Japanese ones.

This is why Kiara has great chemistry with Subaru or Reine, because they are actually willing to shoot her down which is what she sets her character up for, which her EN genmates (with the exception of Ina) can't do as they are timid internet people just like their viewers.

>> No.1732024

Ollie is loud but her voice isn't half as annoying as Kiara's voice.

>> No.1732034

>>1731741
I definitely saw one on TTS Dragon's discord but it was just few frames on stream, so dunno

>> No.1732042

>>1731702
Delicious zombie tummy

>> No.1732149

>>1718726
It's pretty simple Zombie come as a genuine genki girl that is a fangirl of everything

Kiara is just a old women that pretend to be a genki girl and that she is a fangirl, she come as fake.

>> No.1732250

>>1723892
Horse Pussy

>> No.1732353

>>1718726
By not causing drama. Whenever she senses drama (accidentally saying onichan to astel) she trys to show she knows she fucked up. She is also willing to take criticism unlike stupid chicken.

>> No.1732382

>>1718726
Because all of this stupid outrage was manufactured

>> No.1732542

>>1731952
>EN humor isn't JP humor.
This is why we say she can't read a room.

>> No.1735436

>>1731952
>Bird's best collab partners are other birds

I can see that being true. Now I want to see an actual collab with her and Marine that isn't Holotalk, Marine isn't afraid to play up confrontations in collabs so it'll be funny to see whether she can play off Kiara well.

>> No.1735625

>>1731090
True. The second one was completely different.

>> No.1735724

>>1719692
People that refer to Kiara as being a stacy are baffling and when asked they usually explain they mean she is a bitch.

>> No.1735881

>>1731952
Also explains why she pushed for TakaMori. I think initially their chemistry was suppose to be Kiara says something ridiculous and Calli would shoot her down for it. But then Calli holds back too much and instead reacts flustered or confused whenever Kiara says anything.

>> No.1736051

From what little of Ollie I've seen, whenever she steps a bit beyond her line of "too much cringe" she steps back and cringes too. When Kiara goes past that line on the other hand she presses the gas to full and doesn't stop until she makes everyone uncomfortable, not giving enough time for people to laugh it off.

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>>1735436
Marine is normally a boke, she only acts as the tsukkomi with a few like Luna.

>> No.1736303

>>1730909
This, the true extrovert know how to read atmosphere and not overwhelming other too much, kiara is just built different

Look at subaru for example

>> No.1736618

>>1719803
>>1719816
For me it was how Ollie moved that first struck me. Then came the similar but different energy. I remember feeling strangely more endeared towards her while watching her debut when I was expecting a similar aversion towards her like Kiara. Then there's the overdesign and I don't mean like Polka which is neat as fuck I mean colors and activity which the zombie and chicken both have. It works for Ollie but is bothersome on Kiara. Worst part is I'm the sort that firmly would never find an anime zombie cute or sexy then comes the damn zoomer zombie.

>> No.1739190

>>1736618
>Worst part is I'm the sort that firmly would never find an anime zombie cute or sexy then comes the damn zoomer zombie.
Ya I don't even like her design at all and yet I still like her. That says a lot. If gura had chickens design I'd still like gura. It's all about the personality.

>> No.1739493

>>1719795
>He hasn't seen the literally 10's of Kiara hate threads
Anon...have you ever considered that YOU might be the newfag?

>> No.1739560

>>1735724
Kiara is the girls the Staceys bullied in school. Most vtubers are the girls that had few/no friends or were in the lowest caste of the cliques. Every time Miko talks about her school life, you can see she obviously diminishes how bad she had it.

>> No.1739588
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Ollie is the cutest person on the planet! I was a little off put by her Zombieness at first but she won me over by blessing my ears on the daily and making Ame look seiso in their first collab. She pissed like a charge rifle! How can you not like that?

>> No.1739764

>>1739588
The only times I piss like a charge rifle is right after I've ejaculated. Can girls build up the pressure some other way?

>> No.1739910

>>1731952
Never read anything I agree with more. Kiara isn't perfect, but the thing that hurts her most is that no one is willing to shoot her down and keep her in check, so in collabs where she doesn't have some one who can bounce off her well she comes across as obnoxious and annoying, souring any viewers opinion on her before they can really even get to know her.

>> No.1739943

>>1739764
Maybe Ollie has a weewee. They stitched it to her crotch as a joke

>> No.1740023

>>1736051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4aTRJ7EVvU

>> No.1740072

>>1739764
You need to exercise your kegal muscles

>> No.1740195

>>1720867
Oh hey, the evader. Do you have away to get around the inevitable range ban?

>> No.1740405

>>1731952
What the fuck, an actually satisfying answer from a KFP? Is this a bizarro world?

>> No.1740436

>>1735724
My oshi is a Stacy too and people love her

>> No.1740481

>>1718726
Disregard everything in this thread; this is the end all and be all:

Ollie comes across like she's trying to make others happy first and herself second
Kiara comes across like she's trying to make herself happy first and others second

That's pretty much it. By the way, pretty much every other Holo falls into Ollie's camp; it's more or less in their job description and a Japanese cultural virtue

>> No.1740507

>>1731952
And then she bursts into tears when her fans try to shoot her down instead.

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>>1720867

>> No.1740800

OP puts zomrades right to the shit tier of fanbases also.

>> No.1740813

>>1731952
Partly true but mostly bullshit. She's smug and loud because she's smug and loud irl. By this point, any prospective Vtuber knows to model your characters personality after their own, and she is no different. This not a bad thing, as I will explain in a moment.
If it really was "just an act", she would have LONG since toned it down since her genmates can't follow up, and especially given how personally she takes the online criticism, low metrics and hate comments.

In reality, she's just being herself. This is where you're partly right though: the general hololive audience of timid internet people don't really like... "herself".

>> No.1740923

>>1718726
idk man, she's just a really sweet person who loves vtubers and also doing vtubing, she's like a happy puppy in her glory
what really sold me is she got emotional seeing all her fan art come in after a while because she was really scared she was too overdesigned to be drawn and appealing
just a super down to earth girl

>> No.1740958

>>1718726
> kureiji
> cuh- razy
> Crazy Ollie

It’s a feature for her.

>> No.1741096

>>1718726
Ollie knows her limits and tries to share the spotlight instead of trying to force herself in or similar, this is why her fans bully her and defend her simultaneously, although she has had to put them down occasionally. Ollie is not trying to provoke or go hard on bantz whenever she streams, be it alone or in a collab, this is why she seems kind of awkward and obnoxious but also very friendly.
Kiara on the other hand is more of a provocateur, more than trying to force herself into the spotlight (which she does sometimes anyway), she is trying to rile her collab partner up and make them show their fangs. Kiara tries to make them fight back, which can (and has) fall flat in a space where most others are introverts, she's like a very playful heel.

>> No.1741845
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1741845

would you?

>> No.1742608

>>1718726
Ollie can laugh at herself and is able to lean into the self deprecating humor whereas Kiara tries to fight against the banter to put herself on top.

>> No.1742698

>>1725251
>14 or 15
What? I thought we were all in our thirties...

>> No.1742781

>>1742698
Ha ha. Yeah. We're that young. Ha ha.

>> No.1744286

>>1731702
I want to rub my dick all over ollies rotten tummy

>> No.1744368

>>1718869
>makes Kiara flirt to Calli look natural
thats because she wants those dead cheeks.

>> No.1744640

>>1718726
Ollie browses here regularly, she is OUR girl. It’s no coincidence that she keeps appearing everywhere eg. delutaya and that indie graduating for nijiEN right after we start discussing it on this board.

>> No.1744673

For me its because:
1. Her voice and accent is not hideous or annoying, unlike Kiara
2. She doesn't try to latch herself onto every other holo
3. She doesn't wear two (2) hats at once

>> No.1744709

>>1744673
>She doesn't wear two (2) hats at once
But she has a BOW and a SWORD! A FUCKING SWORD. WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!? ARGH I CAN'T EVEN!

>> No.1745467

>>1721043
Kino.

>> No.1746606

>>1744709
Not him but a bow + a hairpin and wearing two hats at once are completely different.

>> No.1746655

>>1744709
>he thinks a sword through the skull is a fucking hat
Anon, are you trying to tell us you're undead?

>> No.1746775

>>1746655
Lies and slander! I'm alive, and my home isn't a ramen shop!

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>>1744709
Anon, Kiara has a sword and shield. Even Reddit makes fun of it and her hat

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>>1741845
I would, hells yeah.

My love of Ollie is only matched by my hatred of Kiara, she's one of the only holos i refuse to subscribe to. Comparing the two makes my head ache, all I know is i'm a zomrade til the day i die or run out of money.

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>>1744709
>she has a BOW and a SWORD!
I fail to see how this is a problem.

>> No.1747066

>>1747001
>all I know is i'm a zomrade til the day i die
That's when it really begins, though.

>> No.1747098

>>1747055
>She didn't die when she was killed.
I can definitely see why you like her.

>> No.1747196

>>1720787
if only Huke papa never sent that :arrow_lower_left: emoji in the first place

>> No.1747721

I love how these two put the blame on viewers for completely different reason, basically outright denying that the problem lies within this chicken
>>1731952
If she's playing retarded and obnoxious for comedic effect and it doesn't work, it simply doesn't work, it comes out as half-assed, annoying and off- putting since she can't read atmosphere if her life depend on it
the reason why Subaru and Reine can managed here is because those two has exceptional social and communication skill, they can adapt and go with the flow on the fly
>>1740813
it's the other way
She's not "herself", it certainly doesn't feel that way
I'm fairly certain that I'm not the only one who feel that she's not genuine on how she's interacting with other, as if she's tryharding to push her persona while disregarding other, she comes out as self-centered and rather egoistical

>> No.1747759

>>1741845
I never wanted to fuck a corpse before Ollie and now I am desperate to know if I can get a zombie pregnant.

>> No.1748892

>>1741845
I thought this was disgusting at first, but I'm actually kinda feeling it now. The zoombie pussy is probably a very unique sensation

>> No.1749194

>>1718726
In my opinion:
>She has a much better design
>Her voice is less annoying
>She's more fun and has a better sense of humor
The main downside is that she has those frequent ear-splitting screeches, but Kiara almost makes up for that by being so loud constantly.
The recent minecraft collab with Ame was great, the way she acted so impressed by everything was cute.

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>>1749194
>blessing of the ears
>a downside
no

>> No.1749678

>People still not realizing this is Kiara trying to shift her persona yet again
She tried to copy Luna's nanora for god's sake, now she's trying to get tips on how to be an Ollie

>> No.1751745

>>1749678
Fits her character. She's a phoenix, so she can "rebirth."

>> No.1752341

Ollie has some feeling of authentic enthusiasm.
She's probably going to be the first ID to 1m

>> No.1754826

>>1747759
>>1748892
https://streamable.com/d9bdkd

>> No.1754893

>>1731952
One of her core criticism is that she's fake and her bitchiness shines through all the time despite her best efforts. This isn't "playing rude for the memes" by any stretch.

>> No.1754929

>>1718726
I don't hate neither but I can't tolerate Ollie's HYPER voice at all while I can tolerate Kiara's.
When they are calm I am good with them. The collab with Watson and Moona was calm Ollie and I could listen to it without my ears bleeding

>> No.1755319

>>1749678
>She tried to copy Luna's nanora
really? do you have any evidence for this shit anon?

>> No.1755416

>>1754929
anon, ollie regular stream was no different even when she collab

>> No.1755558

I don't hate Kiara, but I understands now why she and her KFP are generally hated. Stay the fuck away from Ollie, she is a good girl.

>> No.1755911

>>1754826
Acting like I haven't ruined my wizard status to that soundbyte at least a dozen times.

>> No.1755954

>>1755416
I would say EOPs deserve the rope, but even EOPS can appreciate Ollie since she translates herself most of the time.

>> No.1756001

>>1718726
She doesnt fuck black monkeys, unlike Kiara

>> No.1756107

>>1719754
I wouldnt trade Mori for anything

>> No.1756197

>>1740923
Funny thing for me is, at first she was right because I really didn't like her design at all, but in the long run nothing matters when your super charming personality completely makes up for it. Hell now I occasionally browse the Ollie art hashtag on twitter. It's so nice seeing her growth.

>> No.1756250

>>1719754
fuck off anon. the IDs have enough suffering and debuffs, no need to burden them with another one.

>> No.1756263

>>1731952
Now if only she can learn the very basics of being an extrovert she'd be bearable. Just because youre forward doesnt mean you know jack shit about being a good coversation piece or a conversation starter even

>> No.1758441

>>1755319
He doesn't, he just watched the UNO collab where Kiara made baby noises and knowing the Luna baby meme said nanora and based his claim on that.

Just like how everytime a dog or cat appears in a game some Holos will say Yubi Yubi or Mogu Mogu

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>This entire thread

>> No.1760049

I know the meme is that Ollie is a better Kiara but that's just wrong. Ollie is so much better than shitchicken you can't even compare.

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>>1718726

>> No.1760799

>>1718869
>Her flirting act is forced and cringe
She literally said she does it as a joke and it's okay with girls because nobody takes it seriously, absolutely destroying /u/ fags.

>> No.1760828

>>1718726
Doesn't make her genmates uncomfortable and acts humble towards them. She's a loud gen-Z cringe twitch baby, but I'm not seeing a completely self absorbed person.

>> No.1760859

>>1719118
Anon I'm European and Kiara is the basically the only Holo I don't like. It has nothing to do with her accent. The chicken voice is annoying but her personality is worse.
I really like Ollie in the other hand because she gives me those fun nostalgic teen cringe vibes from when I used to hate on the "rawr xD" weeb crowd.

>> No.1760864

Cause she's not orange, if she was orange she would be the most hated Holo facts

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>>1719639
>wrestling it
I kek'd.

>> No.1760927

>>1719118
Why do you yuros give honestly retarded takes, almost all the time? We've heard plenty of your accents. Her accent is the least annoying thing about her. The 'voice' which is it's own thing sucks shit, and her personality is like a bull in a china cabinet, and not in any good way.

>> No.1760929

>>1719358
This is really at the core of the problem, she's an extroverted selfish autist.

>> No.1760932

>>1718726
Ollie didnt have antis before joining Hololive

>> No.1762267

>>1760932
Ollie didn't have a career before Hololive..

>> No.1762593

>>1760929
she's not even actually extroverted. extroverts can read the room. kiara's outgoing personality is a big put on and it shows in the reaction to her

>> No.1762697

>>1762593
Why do basement dwellers always think extrovert means social butterfly chad

>> No.1762792

>>1725218
>>1728295
How do you guys feel about the converse? About fließend Deutschsprechende Englisch-Muttersprachler?

>> No.1762841

>>1735724
This post was written with cumdumpster hands

>> No.1762954

>>1762267
wrong.

>> No.1767431

>>1741845
It's worth getting an anaerobic bacteria infection for that cunny

>> No.1767464

>>1746947
What the fuck does this design supposed to mean

>> No.1767547

>>1767464
Her illustrator has bad taste.

>> No.1767761

>>1762954
Bitch I have more subs on my youtube and my only video is an unvoiced tutorial on how to draw a foot.

>> No.1767819

>>1767761
did you make money from that?
because she had some serious paypigs before she reincarnated to Ollie.

>> No.1768260

Because most of the Kiara haters are SEAdogs

>> No.1768346

>>1731952
>Create character gimmick
>Character gimmick doesn't work because other characters don't compliment
>Instead of modifying gimmick to work for the scenario, keep forcing it
>Get mad when the gimmick still inevitably doesn't work
I can believe it, but it's still dumb

>> No.1769176

>>1718726
She is not EN and inexperienced so she get away with more ''bad'' behavior, where EN is the face of Hololive IND is the side thing that are not forced down your throat.
She is also likeable and you feel like its a genuine person behind her that care, so that helps quite a bit.

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I hate her fanbase but I'd still watch her play Trials.

>> No.1769361

>>1739560
Miko has a really bad speech impediment so I can see adolescence being rough.

>> No.1769527

>>1741845
No.

>> No.1770400

>>1731952
Yeah, that's why she cries whenever she receives the slightest criticism.
Fucking retard.

>> No.1770443

>>1718726
God I love Olly.

>> No.1770533

>>1718805
she really isn't. she's just noisy.
>>1718810
genuinely obnoxious.
>>1718845
if LOOK AT ME I AM LOUD CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL WOOOOO isn't being a total attention whore, I'm not sure what is, faggot.
>>1718935
>noisebox ollie
>not abrasive
here's your (you)
>>1719927
which is clearly why kiara sperged out so hard over getting to collab with pekora, because she just wants fame. riiiight. you faggots are almost as nuts as the nu-haatons.

...man fuck it, I ain't handing out more (you)s to this heap of faggotry.

>> No.1770603

Ollie was designed to be like this

Kiara wasn't

>> No.1772013

>>1767464
Altera if she were a bird instead of an alien

>> No.1772672

>>1770533
Picture someone living in your head rent-free as much as Ollie does when she's not even alive.

>> No.1776801

>>1739560
Yeah. It absolutely blows my mind that girls like Nene and Miko were part of the toilet lunch bunch. I get the pressure to conform, but at least in Western schools the dorks can usually find their own groups. At least, that's how it was when I was in school.

>> No.1778554

How long until she overtakes Moona and becomes #1 in HoloID? I don't care about numbers but it's really remarkable how strong her growth is.

>> No.1778786

>>1718726
>doesn't make everything about her

That's why

>> No.1778847

>>1731952
Mori was supposed to be her tsukkomi but she couldn't keep it up for very long

>> No.1779831

>>1762593
I'm an introvert, and one of the few things I picked up in my social reclusion was to always read the room so as to best avoid confrontation/general interaction. Please do not sully introverts by calling Kiara an introvert. Also, do not reply to me.

>> No.1780101

>>1719639
the anniversary stream legit angered me and before it i had never even considered the idea of a "worst HoloEN".

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Kureji Ollie
>best girl
>zombie but cute
>loud, blesses your ears

Kiara "who?"
>worst girl in en
>phoenix but not cute
>loud, curses your ears

>> No.1780368

>>1780274
Based Ollie poster

>> No.1781109

>>1718726
Because from the very start, indogs used her to shitpost against Kiara. Ollie fans are Kiara antis are SEA.

>> No.1781173

>>1718726
Ollie somehow makes it seem innocent even though both her and Kiara are just playing roles

>> No.1781799

I've fallen down a rabbit hole of watching clips of these on YouTube. Is it wierd talking to someone pretending to be an anime girl.

>> No.1782294

I didn't even know there was a precedent for hating kiara until I discovered that hiroshimoot made this containment board for vtubers like yesterday. My take is that kiara shines the most in JP collabs. As someone who's also lived in japan and actually speaks japanese, her JP-only streams are the ones where she plays to her strengths.

>> No.1782343

>>1778554
All 3 new IDs experienced faster growth compared to their predecessors but that's mostly because Hololive's rep exploded after EN and they are experiencing the results from it.

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>>1718805
Cutest and the best

>> No.1782437

>>1739560
Holos either come from a rough domestic life (Subaru, Watame, Marine, Amelia) or a rough school life (Nene, Miko). Also Noel had it pretty bad too cause she was harassed by boys and bullied by girls for her body.

>> No.1782492

>>1729207
Of course she uses a fake voice. But her streaming personality basically just seems to be her real personality hammed up. This is the same girl who fell out of her chair trying to take a picture of her new PC case after all.

>> No.1782505

>>1760799
When did she say that because that is really cringe if she does it for real. I don't need timestamps, just a link to the video where she said that.

>> No.1782632 [DELETED] 

>>1779831
he never say kiara introvert by excluding her as extrovert, fucking dumb if you think people's personality was just divided if you're active or not active on society, adult don't generalised people that way

>> No.1782673 [DELETED] 

>>1767819
i just checked her income from playboard honestly it's very high from ID standard, she start reaching to top holo JP superchat

>> No.1782721 [DELETED] 

>>1778554
from income she's already trampled moona by far, ollie just lose subscribers count

>> No.1782759 [DELETED] 

>>1782505
clip watcher, go neck yourself

>> No.1783294

>>1740023
I swear, every time I try to come back and give Kiara another chance, she does some stupid shit like this. And of course she has to try to include Luna in that, which really doesn't fly so well for Luknights.

>> No.1783314

>>1723118
>make every topic about her
This is hands down Kiara's worst trait. She has to make everything about her. Look at Holotalk where she's supposed to interview/converse with JPs and instead finds a way to relate every answer to herself and spend half the time talking herself.

>>1723669
With the colors, Ollie has a lot going on (red, pink, black, two shades of gray) but they're colors that generally work together. Ollie's design is ridiculous but it's ridiculous in a way that's consistent. You look at Ollie and you pretty much get what they're going for: Hot Topic Zombie Girl.

Kiara's design on the other hand is just a mess with no real central theme at all and the colors are generally bad with the hair is the worst offender. You don't really know what they're going for or what her theme is supposed to be.

>> No.1783341

>>1782759
Where did I say show me a clip, anon? I asked for the video where she said that - I don't watch Ollie a lot, so I was looking for a specific instance.

>> No.1783552

>>1718726
Because Ollie behaves like she is a golden retriever. Although she gets ahead of herself and starts barking nonsensically a lot, it's feels genuine and that it comes from a place of excitement from getting to interact with her audience and the other holos.
Birdo acts like she's on an instagram live stream, deliberately saying shit and manipulating events to make her the center of attention and to get the highest metrics possible. It comes off feeling forced and sometimes jarring (I'm gonna shit those pants real good).

>> No.1784350

>>1718726
Usually I dislike loud, very high energy streamers but Ollie is a different case, she's really fun to watch even if she's forcing a lot of things and I'm not really sure why I like her. Maybe it's because she's just having fun with everyone at the most cringy but innocent way possible.

At the other hand, I do try to like Kiara but everytime I watch her streams she do/say something that just annoys me and at this point, even minor shit. For example, I was watching the Uno collab and I was wondering why she was reading SCs in a collab and then someone asks her why not just make another vod and she said "this is where the real fun is at"...Bitch, I was watching this stream because I like everyone there, not only you and it is kinda disrespectful for the people who were there too.

So basically Ollie is cringy af but adorable and Kiara is cringy af but annoying (plus she doesn't seem to have self awareness)

>> No.1784884

>>1781799
>I've fallen down a rabbit hole
Go back stupid newfaggot. Lurk for 2 years before posting.

>> No.1785203

>>1782632
Speak English, trog.

>> No.1785336

>>1783341
I'll give you the clip any way
https://youtu.be/bmCWNAInf3o

>> No.1785423

>>1718726
Ollie cute
Kiara shit
Simple as

>> No.1785529

>>1718726
Ollie strikes me as enthusiastic. She's naturally extroverted, but she also spends enough time with introverted people to know how to handle the flow of conversation and let others breathe.
Kiara is a natural introvert trying to become an extrovert. The problem is she never learned properly how to be an extrovert. She surrounds herself with lonely yes men, who gives her attention so long she's loud. So she started thinking dragging attention is the only thing that matters and never learned the nuances in conversation.

>> No.1785533

>>1785203
this is eigo komento

>> No.1785604

>>1783294
It doesn’t? Show me evidence outside this board that a single luknight gave a shit.

>> No.1787373
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>>1718726
Unlike Kiara, Ollie has a good sense of humor, a genuinely upbeat positive vibe, and is really fun in collabs.

Kiara on the other hand has one gag of "I'm so horny lol", makes sob stories, and talks over Gura when she's having an heartfelt moment. Fuck Kiara.

>> No.1787452

>>1718726
I used to believe all SEA people were subhuman like the chinks but holoID managed to change my views somehow.

>> No.1788092

>>1787373
Everyone talks over Gura though.

>> No.1788187

>>1732353
>Whenever she senses drama (accidentally saying onichan to astel) she trys to show she knows she fucked up

I thought everyone love it (the "onii-chan" thing) and not turned into a yab. Was it actually ever cause a drama?

>> No.1788494

>>1718726
Ollie is genuine. Everytime chicken speaks it feels like there's an ulterior motive.

>> No.1788651

Ollie And Kiara both have Fart and Scat Fetishes

>> No.1788819

kiara complained about people who get triggered at her poop joke. what is the difference when ollie did it like the charge riffle for example. it's feels equally awkward (i didn't hate it tho)

>> No.1788825

>>1718726
>The more I watch Ollie the more she grows on me.

>The more I watch chicken the less I wanna continue watching chicken.

Kiara is about the only holo I wouldn't miss if she graduated. Even some of the girls I never watch at least show up as fun in collabs or anime sketches. Kiara doesn't have any redeeming qualities where as Ollie is constantly improving as a streamer.

>> No.1788839

>>1788494
That's just you trying to find an ulterior motive. Speaking/typing before thinking is a problem both of them share.

>> No.1788925

>>1718726
how good looking are Indonesia girls?
do they look like sea monkeys?

>> No.1788931

>>1788819
I'd say the main problem is that Kiara kept repeating the joke, while Ollie left it at 2 sentences then moved on.

>> No.1788946

>>1719002
we live rent free in hers.

>> No.1788961

>>1788819
charge rifle was only mentioned once. funnily enough Ame brought it up on her own in another stream.

>> No.1789090

>>1788819
The one where she became poop, or the one where she pooped on Gura for good luck?

>> No.1789187

>>1788925
Better than shitara at least

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>>1788925
Here is a typical indonesian girl according to bing

>> No.1789283

Does an inferiority complex from subs make HoloID fans the biggest infighters within the company?

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>>1718726
I dislike Kiara for all these reasons but love my zoombie, I can't explain it, I'm not even a SEAnig.

>> No.1789385

>>1789283
Hey, let least they arent as bad as KFPshitters

>> No.1789457

>>1789363
kfps will call you a seanig

>> No.1789521

>>1782505
I can't find a clip of it or the exact moment in the archives but it was quite soon after the Astel collab, maybe tee 400k celebration stream. It was after someone asked why didn't she flirt with Astel like she does with girls and her response was basically:

>"it's okay if I flirt with girls because it's fun and nobody will take it seriously, but if it was a guy people would and they would get mad"

>> No.1789541

That reminds of that clip of her saying the other girls at school thought she was a slut, because she was constantly chatting up all the boys.

>> No.1789569

>>1789385
Still isn't an excuse for bad behavior though.

>> No.1790743

>>1789541
Imagine friendzoning the whole class, poor boys

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Suisei confirmed as SEAnig

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>>1789541
This rrat is credible and sad.
>hit teenage years
>all of a sudden all the girls hate her
>all of the boys snicker at her when they see her coming
>whole school thinks she's a slut
>no frens for a few years
>sad ollie
>becomes holo
>gives it her all
>all of a sudden lots of fans
>a bunch of girls to bond and work with
>yabs constantly because she's overexcited to be able to be super friendly and make new frens instead of being scorned for it
>happy ollie
We must protecc her smile.

>> No.1793957

>>1718726
doesn't over do it like a certain phoenix does

>> No.1794292

>>1788187
No, and it was clearly a joke. Ollie and Astel feel like comedic partners who instantly clicked with one another.

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