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Previous >>17338684

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General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>32,694: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,788: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,392: Chloe (Hololive)
>21,211: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,560: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,259: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>18,144: Aki (Hololive)
>17,021: Gura (Hololive)
>16,025: Botan (Hololive)
>15,198: Korone (Hololive)
>14,898: Flare (Hololive)
>14,720: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,613: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)
>14,364: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,324: Miko (Hololive)
>14,050: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,678: Shion (Hololive)
>13,401: Gatchman (Indie)
>12,454: Gura (Hololive)
>12,441: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,261: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,462: Kamito (Indie)
>10,395: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,386: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>10,356: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,030: Kanata (Hololive)

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Anyone knows how twitch calculates Avg. watch time?

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>>17352916
That’s a lot of Holo

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2.8k in Pomu's waiting room. Seem's a good chance of hitting 10k.

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>>17353007
nvm I found it

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>>17352841
Pomu gonna pull at least 25k ccv,hope you holobronies are ready

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>Post your prediction for Lazulight new custom

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>>17353167
8k

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Whatever happened to that VN style Hologra knockoff by NijiEN? It had like one episode and I don't think there's been any plans to do another. They can do a remake of episode 1 with actual guys now that Luxiem is here. kek.

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Looks like NijiEN have some covers coming out. Bae also has one. Who's cover will do the best? Nijisanji have great cover viewership and Bae's one from 3 months ago doesn't even have 400k.

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>>17353068
I doubt it. It also depends how long it goes for as well. Either way I'm excited.

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>>17353220
Hologra is just a copy of Puchisanji anyway

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>>17353167
8k, 8.5k, 7k

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>>17353167
>Pomu 5-6k if Selen doesnt overlap, slightly lower otherwise
>Elira 9k
>Finana 7k

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>>17353129
Fuck off and kys

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>>17353249
Is that even a question? HoloEN is the bigger fish, so guess who?

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>3.6k waiting
10k will taste so sweet. Holofags will be kneeling and crying. This will be the year of the Niji female.

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>>17353327
Bae isn't much bigger and no one has shilled her shit.

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>Overlap your oshi's outfit reveal

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>>17353347
Not so fast buddy. Selen the protector is still streaming, so she will block any chance at 10k for lazulight

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>>17353347
KYS

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>>17353220
>>17353284
Wait they haven't done another episode?? KEK
The numbers were so bad they cancelled?

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>>17353284

>copy

the only thing they have in common is being short comedy videos

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>>17353284

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>>17353167
14k, 15k, 17k, or something like that

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>>17353457
NijiEN fans, the actual ones and not catalog posters, didn't like LazuLight's all that much.

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>>17353480
Same thing with NijiEN’s then >>17353220

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>>17353220
Are you talking about Nijiscenario?

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S-she wouldnt overlap, r-right nijibros?

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>6k waiting

prepare the kneels

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>>17353653
What a bitch

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>>17353653
Nope. She ended it and is starting the funnel.

This is gonna be a 10k+ stream for sure.

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>>17353707
So Pomu will be the 5th one to reach a 10k ccv outside of debuts?

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>7k waiting room
More than I expected

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>>17353220
It was so bad the talent was treating it like it was punishment to be in it.

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>>17353758
>Down to 3.7k
Susan has no mercy

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>>17353751
All 3 should get 10k.

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>>17353751
Elira and Finana too. I don't think it's a stretch to say 15k can happen.

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Saw a peak of 8k

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>>17353284
>Hologra is just a copy of Puchisanji
hologura is way older my dude. Puchisanji started around nov 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnu8xZpHj00

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>Waiting room recovered

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>>17354014
meaning her cull is very light still, then

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Added some context stuff because I know people will post it somewhere else

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>10k getto!!

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weak first costume real

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Why is it going so fast?
I thought Pomu was a numberfag?

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>>17354296
It kind of doesnt. If they didnt recover the waiting room quickly, itd be more concerning given that this is a pretty big event. Cant really gather much data from this, too, since its not their usual numbers

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>>17354528
I wonder if any of them can at least get 20k?

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Pomu you gotta milk it more, reveal after 15 min seems really dumb

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>10k
nijien is absolutely dead

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>>17354471
Are those real responses by YT? Who did they response to?

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>>17354659
20k seems high but Elira can easily get 15k of she milks the reveal a bit better than Pomu

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>>17354712
>yes
>to people asking why the live metrics are broken

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>Cant even get 20k on 1st outfit reveal
Just where are the luxiem's viewers go? Is niji still tourist central even on ENbranch?

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>>17354722
Pomu could almost get 15 if she milks this more, so Elira if she takes 30-40 min, she probably can get 20k

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>>17354829
Luxiem fans are only fans of Luxiem you retard

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>>17354659
Elira maybe.

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12k is already incredibly good for a Niji EN female no matter how much the tribal retards here will falseflag

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>>17354471
too long honestly, just tell me the quick conclusion

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>>17354829
They only show up if a guy is involved.

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>>17354829
>tourist central
I don’t think you understand that phrase anon
Luxiemfags are just like chumkeks, they don’t watch the girls, they just stick to the guys now fuck off

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>>17354889
B-but muh chemistry...

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>>17354544
Pomu works in mysterious ways.

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>>17354916
This. And it doesnt seem like the increase is over yet.

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>>17354471
forgot about one thing, gonna delete this and post the updated

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13K, if she keep milking it, she can reach 15K

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>>17354471
NijiJP avg watchtime
>avg watch time: 11:52 mins

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wait, are the lazulight outfit reveals a relay? are they gonna get culled harder after this?

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Why are tribalists think 12k for a nijien female is bad, while holox (one of the most hyped gen) getting 18k-40k numbers on their first costume reveals

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>>17354945
What happened to chemistry tho? Nijisister told me they are unity incarnate

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>>17355069
*slap.png*

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>>17354544
She isnt the good kind of numberfag

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>>17354916
For an outfit reveal though... Sana got at least 25k and she debuffed herself to hell and back.

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>>17355071
Ehh? What a fucking retard

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>>17355069
>first costume reveals

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>>17355071
Yeah but it doesnt get them numbers, unfortunately

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So this is where all the holoEN viewers went

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This reveal style was a pretty novel idea but, despite how much people complain that she's not reaching that 75% time max peak, it's dragging too much and we should be done soon.

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Honestly, I was expecting 20k since it's their first huge event and they have Hololive audience overlap. I guess I'm just a retard.

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>>17355069
retard

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>>17354916

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>>17354916
Think this is the biggest stream ever on her channel. Her debut peaked at around mid 12k from what I remember.

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>>17355260
hololite doing holo style reveal

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>>17354935
either Gura has double the retention of Ludwig or she has her numbers culled in half

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>>17355121
>>17355121

Touch grass.
Get rid of that numberrot

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>>17355292
>14k for the first in a relay
Relay streams usually goes up for every vtuber so 20k is still in play

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Let's go get that 15k!

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>>17355358
ah ok thanks, yea every way we look we reach that same conclusion

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>>17355069

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>>17355415
>There is a chance Finana may mog her genmates for once

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>>17355415
Maybe, Kiara was telling KFP to watch Pomu's outfit reveal as well.

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>>17355410
>comparing holox on peak CCVid
kys

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>>17355489
Based unitychad

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>>17355292
Non-SEA hour desu purisu andastando

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>>17355489
Nobody watch Kiara.

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>>17355347
Have you just never watched a Niji outfit reveal before? Yorumi made a whole fake pixel JRPG game for one of hers. Lize did a VN scenario for her last one. Chaika has done some who fake hero show scenario where he did a transformation into a mecha.

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>>17355489
And still cant even get 15k at least. Sigh...

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>>17355477
>>17355306
>>17355302
>>17355232
>>17355188
>>17355157
>>17355121
>>17355071

Also, fuck you Pomu, don't mention the viewer count. People don't like numbernerds live.

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what a great fucking site, susan

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>>17355541
? baffling reply.
I was slapping idiots that Did compare NijiEN with that. Despite knowing full well ho much smaller the NijiEN base audience is.
Guess you deserve one too for not following threads and replying stupidly.

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Also, I found this, basically
>if you make a 11 second video and you pay ads for it and people watch it completely (aka, no skip), it counts as a view
>if your video is longer than 30 seconds and people watch at least 30 seconds, they count as a view
>if someone clicks on the ad, it counts as a view

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>>17355933
Slap me harder onegai~ <3

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No holoen overlap? Omega slipping

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14K with a heavy ccvid case?
pretty good

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Please let Pomu's cover beat Bae's
We have to let people know that there are also females in NijiEN.

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>>17356036
Ina and Fauna both choose to stream very late today

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>>17355977
doesnt that mean that the number of ads bought is much higher than the number of views they show, considering most people skip it on 5 secs?

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>>17355037
I don't understand. Isn't it in Youtube's best interest to have a live tracking as close to as twitch as possible? So that people don't think being a youtube streamer/transitioning to youtube is numbers poison vs twitch?

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>>17356101
>heavy

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>>17356111
her cover wont even beat any existing NijiEN covers out..

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NijiEN Top 10 peak views (nijimado+vrabi)
>22/01/21 22,308 Ike Karaoke stream
>21/12/20 20,703 Vox Nijisanji debut
>21/12/20 19,672 Mysta Nijisanji debut
>21/12/20 19,417 Nijisanji Luxiem debut program
>21/12/20 17,555 Ike Nijisanji debut
>21/12/20 16,381 Shu Nijisanji debut
>21/07/18 15,263 Petra Nijisanji debut
>22/01/30 14,815 Pomu Costume reveal <--- NEW
>21/12/20 14,893 Luca Nijisanji debut
>21/05/16 14,859 Elira Nijisanji debut

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>>17356036
>omega slipping
more like sleeping!
7AM in Japan on a saturday

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>>17356224

Ike i kneel

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>>17356174
youtube cares much more about their advertisers say than what their users or content creators

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>>17356224
Kek if you look at these numbers, Ike's karaoke is basically the equivalent of Gura's 120k karaoke to NijiEN

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>>17356111
Bae's halloween cover performed pretty badly, but you can attribute it to being a seasonal cover, I'm curious to see how well her next cover is going to perform, she's a good singer

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>>17356199
very heavy
omegabronny reverse coping

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>>17356224
Where’s Vox’s sims?

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>>17356220
That doesn't mean Bae's will.

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>>17356331
He usually only gets 10k for those

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>>17356304
the original is fucking boring, expect nothing from it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYIntGsjNMs

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>>17356174
The people in charge of youtube are literally retarded or actively malicious towards the users. The majority of major decisions they make are hated by users or negative for the user experience.
Removing Dislikes, constantly making the UI worse, refusing to add features for years, Adding NFTs etc.

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>>17356375
He got 14k on his first sims tho

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>>17356378
>kokia
>boring

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Pomu got more viewers than I expected, but less SC than I expected. Think she might get the lowest SC total from the outfit reveals

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>>17356174
it should, but it changing the system just to compete against Twitch would mean changes in the whole platform, you see, YT advertises their numbers in VOD views, allowing people to add multiple views to streams simultaneously would mean that streamers would get a significant boost over traditional content creators which is currently (and by a huge margin) the majority of them

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>>17356382
wait youtube is adding nfts now? how the fuck does that even work?

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>>17356382
I hope some big corpo will make a new vidya platform that could fuck YT in the future

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>>17356292
Unlike Gura though Ike isn't even typically the strongest streamer of his company. That's just his personal peak, the others can match or beat him if they play to their strengths.

NijiEN is actually growing while HoloEN is somewhat stagnant for a few months now. It's possible HoloEN peaked really early and just don't have much room left to grow but they're at least in a good place if they can maintain it. Maybe Holostars EN or HoloEN gen 3 will be as successful as Myth but I find it hard to imagine they'll find anyone outright better or able to match Gura.

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>>17356510
We don't know, but Susan talked about it

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>>17356504
What do you mean? Basically everyone that has is watching multiple streams except literal bots will tune into a stream for at least 1 minute and be counted as a VOD view. This system literally only fucks with reaching CCV peaks/good averages, which is a visual thing users care about to judge popularity.

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These numbers for a costume reveal are downright pathetic. Nijishitty just needs to close down NijiEN already. What a joke.

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>>17356609
Yeah yeah shut the fuck up nijinigger, even you don't believe this bullshit. Nijifemales have been stumbling for a year now, Niji dudes are now reclining out of their honeymoon phase.

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>>17356489
Not bad SC really though. Comparable to Holo Council outfit reveals that were around 40k viewers with less than half the audience.

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>>17356489
Finana's SCs are godawful, no way is she beating Pomu. Elira could though.

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>>17356609
>NijiEN is fumbling a change to get major numbers from tourists
>W-we're inclining!
Mhm. Any moment now the thirsty chink/SEA/japanese fujos will ride to save them.

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>>17356685
>>17356705
seething lmao

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>>17356705
Isn't it sad to wear your emotions on your sleeve like this? Why are you seething so hard over numbers, did you forget to take your autism meds today?

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>>17356462
I kneel to kokia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46Vulwj98po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-YSmX1pZD8

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>>17356489
Pomu also got a lot of streamlab donos, she has kind of shilled them, but that is harder to know how much she got

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>>17356777
Coping

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>>17356769
Pomu will get more SC over the month than both, but it wouldnt surprised me if both Finana and Elira got more just today

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>>17356612
ah, so she really is a jew through and through

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>>17356836
One of them played her "long sound" so it was over $100, impossible to know though since she had the visual off.

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>>17356609
>find anyone outright better or able to match Gura
Gura wouldnt even be able to beat Gura if she debuted now. HoloEN came at the perfect moment, with unique personalities, and a healthy amount of meme-ry. The bubble they were able to quickly form was great for keeping people who wanted to just forget what was happening at the time.

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>>17356984
She got at least 5 of those.

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>>17356540
Wish granted - it's TikTok. Unless you think a second YouTube-like platform could ever get off the ground after the mid 2010's, in which case I'd like to point you to the expanding graveyard of video hosting sites that either died of starvation or had to close borders to fend off DMCA. The closest thing in recent memory that used to exist was PornHub, until prudes lynched their ass through credit card companies and made it impossible to freely upload any more.

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>>17356733
Examples
$3,769 - 14.8k Pomu
$4,175 - 48.1k Kronii
$3,882 40.2k Bae

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>>17356609

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>>17357136

holoenfags are poor

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>>17357216
kek

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>>17357136
Kinda embarrassing knowing that Vox got 7k for an sc reading last Tuesday

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>>17357011
this fucking chuuni is among the top holos even after dropping out of nowhere in november and with no big roomate to back her up. Gura would be as big or more likely bigger than demoncunny still.

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>>17357216
That Pomu song premiere chat doesn't looks Niji at all.

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>>17357085
You can just make something totally decentralized using p2p that is immune to DMCA or hosting costs but it'd need some elaborate system to encourage seeding and encrypt all its content so less popular videos don't just end up totally dead. You could utilize blockchain technology for this by tying it to some crypto thats mined by running the client and seeding I suppose. Unfortunately this type of technology will probably be used for nefarious purposes long before it reaches mainstream appeal and that might create a stigma against it.

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>>17356540
Monkey's Paw Curls - TikTok has a billion monthly active users and their average watch time is already higher than YT's.

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>>17356955
>>17356382
I don't know why but I don't like how Susan is bundling Memberships as "digital goods"
Here's the whole thing
https://blog.youtube/inside-youtube/letter-susan-our-2022-priorities/

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>>17357136
Out of curiosity, what did Myth get for their last outfit reveal?

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>>17357468

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11k waiting room

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>>17357468
If anything this will just push more streamers to start using other monetization methods like Patreon and Fanbox as a fuck you to Susan.

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>>17357359
If you think thats a fair judgement, comparing EN and JP, especially for that semen demon, then thats your thing

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>>17357619
Mori - $5,341
Kiara - $5,171
Gura - $1,983
Amelia - $1,908
Ina - $1,587

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>>17357814
Eww wtf

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>>17356984
Nah her top ten streamlab donos this week ends in $100 donos, and she hasnt gotten a lot earlier this week only one streamlab "akasupa" the rest of the week, so probably 10+ streamlab akasupas

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It’s too early to call but the early frame by Gura seems to be doing pretty good. 1.5k waiting 2 hours away and honestly having it up this long just gives way more exposure to it. Not everyone pays attention to schedules and all that junk

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>>17357873
It's an out of season NYE outfit out only like, a month after their last one. Fatigue is a thing, they get more on streams that read superchats. In fact ENs in general don't seem to have a culture of superchatting that much during outfits.

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>>17350164

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She's even worse at stalling than Pomu

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>>17358049
Lots of Holobronies have become more savvy in how they support their oshis. SC has now become undesirable because YT takes a hefty 30% cut from it, so more and more Holobronies would rather just buy memberships and then spend their money on merchs, because Holo chuubas actually get higher cut from those.

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>>17356304
>>17356378
Kokia is one of the few japanese singers I would actually call good. I can't see how this cover is going to be anything but a downgrade.

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Here is another thing I found, TimTheTatMan also privates the VOD's when he finishes a stream, so it doesn't get more views than the ones it got after it finished processing and of course, weird numbers
>~30k avg CCV
>11 HOURS
>332k views

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>>17357873
>>17358049
>>17358383
Probably best not to ignore the months of repeated merch, notably the omocat merch that sold out in seconds. Western fans like to support their oshis without crossing the line of being giant fucking losers who give their life savings away for a thank you, simple as

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easy 16-17k but dont think it will go to 20k

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>>17358458
It won't matter if 99% of the audience doesn't know or care about the original.

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>>17358706
I'm a Gura fan and even I can't believe these numbers. If they're true, Susan has absolutely butchered my shark. A 50% nerf was something I could understand, the idea that she's operating at like 20% of actual CCV is ridiculous.

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>>17358706
And apparently he has 21k members too, based on official article
https://blog.youtube/inside-youtube/innovation-series-gaming/

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>>17358706
TimTheTatMan is not pedobait, so he gets a pass

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ehh imagine if we got Finana/Elira instead of Mori/Kiara in hololive...

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>>17358814
see this
>>17342913
>>17343046
>>17343339
>>17343727

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>>17358706
>the more I understand about youtube's CCV fuckery the sadder I get
What's the point of knowing when it'll never changed. Is this what it means to be cursed with knowledge? The more anons peel back the bullshit the sadder it is to look at Gura struggling with 15k CCV.

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16k get

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Elira is so much better at milking this than Pomu it is crazy, you really see the difference in like vtuber skill, between them. Elira is a lot better

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>>17358950
At least choose an appropriate target for you bait, Ame/Selen swap may give your more (yous).

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>>17358706
That stream title should attract a lot of tourists. Man how much did they really nerf gura...

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>>17359078
Lol so which is it
Just use her other GTA streams as a guideline instead of assuming an important variable and getting ridiculous results like 60k

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>>17358383
Is this argument lifted from the niji thread on /jp/ circa July 2020?

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>>17359179
Eh? She did literally the same thing and only got like 1k more peak despite being an hour later, the 2nd in the relay, and being the more popular of the two.

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>>17358950
lol

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>>17359374
if you use other gta streams (this one was blocked due to copyright claim) the ccv would get even higher, as vod viewers mess up the calculation, pulling it up.

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>>17359113
Compile all the data, make a video about it with a clickbait title like "Streaming in Youtube is rigged", post it on normie Reddit and watch it go viral.

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>>17359270
??
do en sharts really? you really think kiara was a better choices than elira would? you lack imagination

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>>17359992
Get the fuck outta here, retard.
It's the numbers thread.

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>>17359992
100% how is this even a question?

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>>17360049
Retarded shit is on topic for the number thread dumbass

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>>17360049
wtf is wrong with you? why are you so angry? im just saying

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>>17359992
anon picked the 2 Myth members that have directly done more than anyone else in HoloEN to grow and popularize the 'brand'.
It was clear he's trolling.
But for you,
yes at the time Kiara was a way better choice. Lazulight still needed some cooking in the EN indie streamer scene to get this good.

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>>17359992
Elira's an ok streamer but she's not very dynamic. For the flagship gen someone like Kiara was much more helpful. Elira would have been fine replacing someone like Bae or Fauna or Sana in Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17353284
A vtuber agency called Game-bu was the first one to do those short office skits, and managed to get 300k subs at their peak back in 2019, but their company was outed as a literal black company by one of the member's roommate and became irrelevant after they tried replacing the person behind the character. Rumor has it that cover took in the animators who worked for Game-bu, because their style looks similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSEZfMH_Z7k

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>>17358706
I think Gura was never cured of CCVID, and she just lost a 500k VOD cuz of DMCA

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>>17359992
ENiggers already have a nepotist who hires failures in Ina, they dont need another

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>>17360213
She isn't the best when it comes to being creative but she does have tons of natural charisma and charm to make up for it I think. Along with her endurance usually being within the top streamers for hours weekly EN and JP.

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>>17360551
YAGOO saviorfagging even staff members?? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>17360612
Eh, a 500k VOD isn't that big a deal to Gura. It sucks that The algorithm isn't recommending Bully because it was the second video in a day, yet also removed the second video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17360612
no EN was ever cured from it

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijinigger outfits
>some of their best numbers ever
>almost no activity here
So the only niji number fags are Selen fag, ENschizo and Luxiem fujos?

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>>17360551
Both the style and the writing/humor. Did Cover poach the entire team?

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>>17360817
The very first signs of CCVID being cured is Ina's stream.
Their audience just got flagged again.

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>>17360817
They were, but reflagged by the Council relay. This is also why Council got such dogshit CCV on their "male council" gimmick stream despite getting better CCV in past all council collabs and it being on Kronii's channel. The VOD for that is half a million btw.

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>>17360834
There are almost no nijifags here, only holofags who pretend to be nijifags

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>>17360551
>Rumor has it that cover took in the animators who worked for Game-bu, because their style looks similar.
That was a very good business move

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>>17361026
again, didnt cure them, just got them back to desease with half a lung infected, and then ccvid is slowly taking it over again to make it worse. But theyve been fucked ever since december 2020.

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>>17360834
The problem is that 16-17k is no longer impressive numbers for NijiEn in a post-luxiem world. If this happened prior you can bet that the thread would be swamped with "incline" post the same way that retards were talking up Selen getting 4-5k as some major achievement.

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>>17361239
Imagine the numbers for Luxiem new outfits

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>>17360612
Rockstar stuff is demonetized anyway so it doesn't matter, it'll probably get edited and reuploaded someday.

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>>17360551
YAGOO's savior tendencies are extending past the idols now...

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>>17361223
Everyone got fucked by Dec 2020 so that point is null.
Talking about CCVID here.

[Anonymous No.]

>there were 7K peak, if I noticed right, at Pomu's cover premiere
>cover still at 6K views more than 1 hour later

Does YT really take that long to validate all these views even for a 4 minute video?

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>>17361239
This thread was predicting sub 10k for them. Now they've done well it's silence.

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>>17361026
That isnt a cure, that is the doctor giving you painkillers for a broken leg and saying you are fine to walk on it instead of actually putting a splint/cast on it.

>>17361392
Some got fucked far worse than others in 2020 cull.

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>>17358706 (me)
Dr. Disrespect also un-lists the VOD but it takes 1~2 days to do it, the one from yesterday is still up for example, so obviously still generates views

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>>17361352
There will probably be 2 more male waves before they get outfits. Holostars EN might even be out by then. We'll see if they can hang onto their JP/chink/SEA fans or they'll get Edengumi'd and people will move on to new toys.

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>>17361352
Those are probably the ones that are worth numberfagging about. Assuming their Fujos stick around and they stream it in JP-SEA primetime, I won't be surprised to see it get to as high as 40k+ and being NijiEN's first gold.

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>>17361239
Don't make me grudge-post all you faggots in the previous thread saying that there is no way LazuLight outfit reveals will not break 10K but will have 4-5K for Pomu/Finana and 7K for Elira.

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>>17361474
Pomu's my 2nd favorite vtuber and I still figured she'd get like 8k, very happy with the numbers they got but in the context of people who don't watch them it's not super notable.

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>>17361549 (me)
will break*

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>>17360834
theyre enjoying the streams

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>>17361452
It must be a scaling algorithm based on some sort of retarded metric, they probably assign resources based on how "well" the video is doing in "real" interactions, because they absolutely can verify huge chunks of views, see >>17353129

[Anonymous No.]

Passed Kson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17361751
a nadie le importa negro

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>>17361660
There are probably a certain % of views that are "ez verify" or automatic or something. The larger your base stream audience is the more of those quick verifications you'll have,

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>>17361474
And we're all surprised of course. Problem is 17k on its own is still not impressive. Ike got 22k on a karaoke and everyone here was losing their minds. Luxiem debuting pretty much recontextualized what are bad, good, and great numbers for NijiEn.

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>>17361474
theres still less chink fujos tuning in to see which outfits their males will be fucking the girls they have to insert as during the discord sex calls than tune in to the male streams so its just not that huge a deal

[Anonymous No.]

How high do you think Finana will peak with her reveal?
She is easily the least popular of LazuLight so I don't think she can top Elira's peak and maybe not even Pomu's.

I hope for 12K or at worst 10K but I think she can manage at least that.

[Anonymous No.]

decent but not Kokia level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS0wMG9Jxow

[Anonymous No.]

Elira - 16,152 - $3,732
Pomu - 14,815 - $3,819

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>>17361352
If they made new outfits and striking while the iron is hot they could probably get like 40k plus on Mysta/Vox/Ike

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>>17361822
Why should it recontextualized anything for the girls? Everyone in this thread has taken great pains to recognise the different market Luxiem pull from.

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>>17362036
viewers was fine for midgets but sc...

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>>17362087
These SCs are fine by EN standards

[Anonymous No.]

306k after verification for Gura GTA without additional VOD views due to being blocked

That's high
And the actual CCV must be closer to 30k

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>>17361974
15k probably, her opening numbers are a bit deceiving since some tourists are watching the Bae MV.

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>>17362125
still sad numbers

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>>17362087
They definitely punch above their weight in superchats. Streams with double and more viewers from HoloEN get similair amounts or less.

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>>17361974
lower than pomu. Maybe 13k

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>>17362135
So youtube removed 10k views?

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>>17362142
Gura and Kronii are streaming now, those tourists will go to them

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>>17362135
44k average with 64k peak assuming viewers watched her for around 30 minutes, to be exact.

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>>17362135
>>17358706

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>>17362229
In one hour. They'll overlap the Lazulight collab but not Finana's reveal.

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>>17361974
She has 10k 8 min in, dont really know what that really means, I think that was a lot more than Pomu had after 8 min but way less than Elira, and Pomu and Elira's final peak wasnt that far off each other. Guess she gets atleast 15k if she milks the reveal a bit

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>>17362231
Yeah that seems inaccurate, she wouldn't have gotten those numbers for a mundane GTA stream even if it was October 2020. Maybe 40k average but not that peak.

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>>17362081
Because it pretty much got all the retards praising Selen having a median average of around 2.5k viewers to finally take their meds and realize that "hey, maybe 3k isn't as great as we thought it is".

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>>17362135
Do the maths when you don't know both the average CCV and average viewtime

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>>17361974
Slightly higher than Pomu maybe? I think she gets slightly lower numbers than Pomu usually, but ending relays is a buff I think

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>>17362160
You think that is sad superchat Gura got less than $2k for her Kimono reveal with 50k viewers.

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>>17362384
It just gave trolls and baitposters a new more effective weapon to use. Didn't really change anything for people actually interested in the dynamics of the NijiEN branch females and that market, which were not that many people in the first place.

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>>17362513
that's also sad numbers just like niji en

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>>17362513
And that 50k was probably 100k+. Poorbuds.

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>>17362231
That's bs and you know it, 26k median and 30k peak is more realistic, like >>17355037
said

[Anonymous No.]

Now this is just sad to see.

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>>17362036
Remember that much of their donations are through Streamlabs, which you are not accounting for. They have been pushing streamlabs donations pretty hard

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>>17362638
1 hour vs 11

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>>17362638
why are burgers so retarded?

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>>17362370
>>17362611
Average watch time for Gura back in 2020 was 20-40 min per viewer, are you one of those shark haters who claim her fanbase is full of low attention span children? fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>17362611
I would imagine those numbers would be using watchtime inline with 2021 numbers. Things start getting wild though if you speculate using some twitch streamers average watchtimes with tabouts , embeds counting,

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>>17362638
Retarded, desperate or both?

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>>17362724
>Polka's anniversary 3D 6 months ago still doesn't even have as much views as Gura's scuffed GTA yesterday
Lmao

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>>17362370
>she wouldn't have gotten those numbers for a mundane GTA stream even if it was October 2020
Uh...I think you forgot what she was pulling in October 2020 on kusoge. GTAV, a buff game, woulda been easy beeg numbers.

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>>17363103
What are you even trying to do here anon? Polka will still get the gold medal today.

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>>17362952

desperate fits the best now. but definitely retarded too

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>>17363103
Do you have a reason to bait Polka's numbers? Yes she's not as popular as Gura, few vtubers are. Fuck off.

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>>17363212
>CCV medals
>mattering
>when Gura is being culled for 2x-3x her live views
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363183
And Pekora was pulling 50k for random MC, does that mean she ate a 40% cull now that her normal MC numbers are 30k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363103
>>17363298
stop using my oshi to attack other Holomems you falseflagging piece of shit, everyone is getting culled to some degree

[Anonymous No.]

>>17362837
No I'm just a person who watched Gura since debut and can count.

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>>17363362
Ye, even higher actually according to anon's chart of Pre December cull vs Post December cull.

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>>17362370
Have you not even bothered to check her pre-december 2020 numbers? She regularly got 40k/60k average/peaks till december cut those basically in half, she had 40k/50k avg/peak with fucking PROTEIN FOR MUSCLE.

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>>17362837
>are you one of those shark haters who claim her fanbase is full of low attention span children?
Even with scuffed CCV, Gura has one of the best retention rates within Hololive for long streams too so this doesn't add up anyways.

Wait till they hit you with the "chumpedos open stream, like the stream, and then close the tab because they're bored" explanation for why she has an absurd amount of likes and comments on her regular streams, as if that's normal human behavior at all.

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>>17363410
And yet you ignore that you are wrong >>17363183

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>>17363260
This is the numbers thread, not your hugbox.

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>>17363362
Pekora ate about a 20% cull December 2020 + natural recline/burnout with her MC and loss of compelling arcs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363506
>begin randomly comparing Polka vs Gura for literally no reason
Kay, now fuck off gen5 schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363506
Desperate to prove that Gura is number 1 by punching... Polka, out of all people.
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>TOP KEK
if one told people even in this thread that Aki Rose would not the whole Lazulight costume reveal with ARK the would claim “fake and gay”

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363403
Except Gura is getting culled harder and this thread keeps shitting on her and saying she's reclined. Nothing wrong with bringing in some perspective and showing how some actually shit tier holos perform in numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363506
>picks retarded comparison
>gets called out
>N-not your hugbox
Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17362837
First time I've heard of this. Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363569
You're either falseflagging with him or retarded to think this is some legitimate Gura fan.

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>>17363609

you sound desperate

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>>17363664
I'll just call him gen5 schizo and move on

[Anonymous No.]

>gura is getting culled harder
>the graph does not look like typical culled stream

hmm...

[Anonymous No.]

Is this how it's gunna be huh? Everytime we get some bit of evidence that peoples numbers are wildly inaccurate, falseflaggers are just gunna pretend to be chumbuds so everyone ignores the problem and starts shitting on gura

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>>17363362
Peko only ate a 23% cull, but yes her numbers would be higher, closer to 38-40k for those random MC streams instead of 30k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17358126
Kek

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[Anonymous No.]

>>17363623
>3d live
>slated to perform worse than normal gaming streams
>n-n-no there's no reason to compare we don't need to put gura's achievements in context because it will make other holos look bad
Not your hugbox, fuck off

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>>17363609
>this thread keeps shitting on her and saying she's reclined.
Why are you lying? You can literally go back to yesterday's thread during GTAV times and 80% of the thread is bitching about how she's getting culled and even celebrating that her VOD got taken down so we can see some un-affected VOD numbers for once.
These threads haven't been this pro-Gura in a while.

>Nothing wrong with bringing in some perspective and showing how some actually shit tier holos perform in numbers.
Yeah go suck a dick, faggot.

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>>17363183
Only 3 of those are over 64k and those are a full EN MC collab, her first visit to the JP server, and her first time playing Amogus. No part whatever GTA stream would get that, even at her absolute peak. I also remember the VOD for that "Diamond" MC stream like 8 hours later (when I watched it) was 700k, for comparison.

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>>17363605
please don't bait with my aunt's triumphant return

[Anonymous No.]

My knees are eternally planted on the ground after listening to that Bae cover. Holy fuck she is good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363794
Ame...

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>>17363605
Strokebro?

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>>17363900
Cool, but can you quantify that with a number please.

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>>17363900
Wrong thread, but it was good.
In the context of numbers, it's going to do horribly because most people have never heard of the song and it is 6.5 mins long, which makes it almost 3x longer than something like King.

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>>17360551
Nigga no! Eileen been doing that shit with Moemi since 2017

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363857
GTA is a big buff game, anon. Alas, I don't think we can "win" this argument either way. I don't think 60k is an accurate number either, but 40k briefly peaking 50 might just be.

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>>17363968
>Can you quantify that with a number please
Yes nigger.

It was so good it gave me 1 (one) diamond hard erection compared to most cover songs with give me 0 (zero) erections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364087
Also Japanese and IRyS tier MV production values.

[Anonymous No.]

Sad News: Bae's Cover already has 3 times the views Pomu's does. What are the chances Pomu can make a comeback?

[Anonymous No.]

HELP ME NUMBERFAGS!

Really looking forward to the Gura-Kronos collab tonight, but my GF just got a positive covid test and wants to have a discussion so I may miss the start
>pic related
Is there a way to pause the video and catch up to it when it’s still ongoing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364199
>Sad news
That is great news Nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364199
zero?

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>>17364129
If GTA was a big buff the fake CCV would still reflect that in comparison to other Gura streams. At most it's a slight buff.

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>>17364129
NTA, but it's literally pointless to try and extrapolate what CCV she would've gotten because we'll never know unless she leaks it.
Just be in agreement that it wasn't fucking 17k and HoloEN/ID and NijiEN girls CCV is full of shit lol.

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>>17364229
anon?

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>>17364199
Impossible. Holo audience is so much larger.

[Anonymous No.]

Feesh 16k get

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363794
You are ignoring the fact that regardless of the "cull", there always be increases and decreases from month to month for all holomems.

[Anonymous No.]

Smart fish

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364229
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363564
>literally no reason
Polka and Gura were both considered to be the star performers debuting at a similar time, pretty sad to see the disparity between them now after the debut buff wore off

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364199
maybe should learn to sing better

[Anonymous No.]

Will NijiEN take EN gold today? also Feesh is still inclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364463
Obviously it's a very crude way to measure it but it's good to show instant across the board declines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364463
Use the previous 3 months combined average. It still shows the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363605
Fake and (You) gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364463
This, Pekora's drop was within the variance of a normal decline unlike the 50% EN drops

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364571
She's about to start reclining. She did the best job of milking it for view count out of the three though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364571
No chance

[Anonymous No.]

>Filters Gura
>Thread drastically improves

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364571
Nah Gura is streaming tonight with Kronii, single POV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364514
>>17364372
She's milking it so hard holy

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364571

the gura-kronii collab has two povs so maybe? idk if escape simulator is a buff or not

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364571
Ehh the Gura and Kronii collab is split pov, They have a chance i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364229
Kek my side

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364735
Is split pov.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kronii put her pov for the collab

NIJIGOLD?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364269
I admit that Bae is a bit better at singing but the cover is 6 minutes long and Pomu is doing a way better song with better visuals. Most people were with me when I said the two could compete. Maybe Pomu's views are still getting processed.

[Anonymous No.]

Can we stop talking about culling? No matter how much we discussed it, we all know shit will never get fixed.
It just so depressing knowing all those big numbers will never seen the light bros...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365000
>Most people were with me when I said the two could compete

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364837
If theyve watched others play it before, its usually a debuff. Unless Gura and Kronii pull out the most stupid/hillarious shit

[Anonymous No.]

Final LazuLight outfit reveal peaks:
>Pomu: 14.815
>Elira: 16.152
>Finana:16.717

Suprisingly Finana had the highest peak probably because she actually prolonged the reveal a lot longer than the other two.
Pomu would have gotten her 15K+ too if she had stretched her reveal a bit longer but I guess it's okay since it's her first outfit reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365061
Now post the HoloEN one to compare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365061

how many time until all of the list is just the guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365137
It's also just accumulating viewers over the course of a relay. Finana would have had the biggest debut out of the three too if it didn't fuck up I think she had 18k waiting/watching wile Pomu was 12k and Elira was 15.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365137
Pathetic for a first outfit reveal. Even if you discount Gura as an outlier 2 other members of HoloEN had over 100k on their first outfit reveals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364989
No. Aqua apex and Polka 3d live.

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>>17365031
I'm not the least bit depressed when Gura numberfags terrorized everyone in 2020 and went as far as to invade other holos' chats. I hope Gura's live numbers get culled more and more as punishment. I know Gura doesn't care so it's not like she's hurt by it and advertisers look at VOD views/subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365266
Are you retarded or just pretending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365213

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365213
What's the point? Even post cull Gura defeats their entire top 10 easily. If Nijiniggers knew their place and stopped spamming shit like
>w-we're taking over EN any day now
They could numberfag their increasingly decent numbers in peace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17363857
Are you mentally handicapped? the 64k peak is a rough estimate not some fucking hard "she reached this" number, and here are plenty of other streams pre december she got near that.
Solo minecraft Time to enchant: 51/59k
Solo minecraft Diamond 50/57k
Solo Amongus 44/61k
Solo RFA 50/61k
Solo Plug & Play 46/59k
And i am completely excluding collabs and Karaoke which regularly hit 60k+ peaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365224
Whit the new waves probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365301
Just bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365278
that was fucked up but it's been a year already...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365301
>comparing first outfit reveal to first outfit reveal
>retarded
Idiot, that is about as even a playing field as you are going to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365000
What? Anon, holoen vod views even for council is still far far stronger than the nijigirls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365137
I was expecting maybe half of that. The incline is real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365000
>Maybe Pomu's views are still getting processed
Pomu's cover was released 30 mins before Bae's anon. She can't compete with her, Bae has more than twice Pomu's sub. Elira's Goodbye Sengen can't even beat the rat's halloween cover to this day

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365278
Does this anon even realize the churn rate of posters in a 1 year interval means he's holding a grudge against people who might not even watch any more? It's not the first time you expressed this schizo sentiment. Only when you're anonymous can you admit to being this petty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365278
A few people started an argument in chat, it's way overblown

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365396
>half of that
you know NijiEN normally has an audience of 8k right? so you thought no tourist/clipfags will watch? come on anon use your brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365137
Also I would like someone to explain me how this shit works:
>Pomu - cover premiere peak CCV: 9.853 // views: 9.365 as I type this (2 hours later)
>Baelz - cover premiere peak CCV: 4.468 // views: 24.823 as I type this (50 minutes later)

How does that make sense, fucking pajeets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365061
Do you have a full lists of 10k+ for NijiEN? Or because of Mysta and Vox exists it's no longer valuable to count them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365301
Shouldn't have even given it attention

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365278
>terrorized
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365539 (me)
The CCV numbers are according to Vrabi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17361803
Still passing your Holos in subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365539
Probably everyone went to watch the other reveals instead of playing it again or watching it late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365529
If the streamer had to step in then no, it wasn't overblown.
>>17365386
Maybe but I don't think the chumbud numberfags' behavior has changed all that much. They only learned to be resentful that they can't lord things over everyone else as much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365539
nigga only hardcore fans wait for the premiere. Too many stupid people on this thread rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365000
Anon, even NijiJP can't compete with Hololive when it comes to music and HoloEN is arguably even stronger than HoloJP when it comes to song views. Pomu never had a chance even if Bae is one of the weaker HoloENs.

https://youtu.be/MyxzuSWxkxY

That is a list of the top 50 vtuber original songs of all time. Yeah, originals are different from covers but it shows how dominant Hololive is when it comes to music. More than half of the list is Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365334
The only thing i can see getting in this rank are new debuts or 3d debut for myth, the outfitS reveals are gonna do worse for HoloEN the more they get

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365681
This is the numbers thread, sir. Not the "schizo grudge against chumbuds for a year" thead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365725
So it takes longer than 2 hours for YT to validate the viewers that watched the premiere live?
And that's with assuming that literally NOONE else replayed/watched the song after these 9.853 viewers watched it during the premiere.
And that somehow is not true for Bae's song?

I agree, we have too many stupid people in this thread, like you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365681
The streamer stepped in because of the arguing, there is a reason why you don't engage with spammers because it makes it worse than it actually is

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365681
take your schizo ravings back to /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17364571
EN gold is a nijinigger cope though. But I guess we let them do it as to not completely shatter them..

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365658
a nadie le importa sudaca

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365278
>Gura numberfags
you mean "people" who watch her for a week then dropped her and moved on to the next shiny thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17365988
It doesn't matter either way. Why can falseflaggers and antis be a legitimate problem everyone acknowledges but suddenly a couple of shitposters in Fubuki's chat in 2020 were a legitimate representation of Gura's fanbase then and now? You can't reason with that anon, he holds a grudge over an enemy that will never even read his words.

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>>17365539
Cover premier numbers are largely irrelevant, the true(fake) CCV number doesn't even have time to process before the song ends.

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Alright will Lazulight incline with this? new outfit buff should apply to them right?

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>>17365984
Pomu's cover might be ahead right now because freezing like this typically occurs when there's a lot of views in a short amount of time.
Bae's cover isn't being frozen because the rate of new views isn't "suspicious" enough to trigger the bot checker.

Pointless to compare right now anyways, just see after 24 hours when the VODs are more accurate.

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>>17366176
And the relay causing the CCVID hit them harder?

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>>17364722
S-sugoi
Anonchama... The truth was this close all along...

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>>17365539
Wait a day and we will see Pomu triumph. It's Bae, they is a good chance her cover won't even hit 500k in it's lifetime.

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>>17365539
>>17365984
>Finana - original premiere peak CCV: 8174 / views: 1885 (1 minute later)
Unless there's mitigating circumstances like the Gura GTA vod comparing CCV to views is too easily polluted by delayed verification, view freezing, and later viewers. Massively so for songs. Yes it takes longer than 2 hours for YT to figure out who actually watched the premiere live. Yes obviously some of those 9853 viewers replayed it and no you aren't going to be able to figure out how many. No it's not consistent between videos or channels and I'm saying this as someone who replayed Bae's song 4 times in the first hour.

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>>17364229
Why did you bust inside her? Did you calculate your chances wrong?

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>>17366110
Nope. That was pushed by that VShoujo fag. Do your archive reps and NEVER give credit to Nijiniggers

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>>17366274
i really hate how relays went from a fun unity event to a plague bomb

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>>17366117
People like that are just as bad or worse than some random kids that can't read the room.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kronii and Gura both have POV
oh shit I can smell Finana EN GOLD!!!! SHE WAS THE GURA KILLER ALL ALONG!!

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>>17366256
I mean, Bae's cover will obviously end up with a lot more views in the long run but it's weird how low Pomu's cover is when it had good CCV during premiere.

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>>17366368
>>17366110
It was started by me as a joke actually.

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>>17366411

BELIEVE IN THE FEESH!!

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>>17366411
Anon Luxiem already got more than one EN gold nijiEN girls are irrelevant.

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Pomu is catching up to Bae, 15k to 26k. At this rate Pomu will be ahead in 2 hours.

Also I wonder if Finana's orison can get at least anus tart's level of growth since Nijisanji orison do pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

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I wonder who taught NijiEN to put their songs after a big event to funnel viewers there. They could've just do 55 minutes with the last 5 minutes in an hour to funnel those viewers to the song release.

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>>17366872
Stinky is slowing down. Did everyone realize she is a menhera NEET?

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>>17366872
LET'S FUCKING NGO

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>>17366857
Can Finana get 1M? IDK maybe. Anything can happen. The world is crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

Good song bad numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_TLQsaAgU

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>>17367225
She did a member's only ASMR yesterday that no doubt would've drained the wallets (and balls) of her paypigs so it's hard to call 6k bad for something that wasn't *really* an event

[Anonymous No.]

Second time in a row I catch youtube doing this, literally happened yesterday on Gura's stream too. Very weird

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>>17366857
18k to 28k now. Bae is letting it slip.

>>17367423
Wait. Susan is Hololive's greatest ally but even she shows the right numbers after a few hours.

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>>17366857
bae hasnt finished dequeuing tough.
Pomu alreayd got 2hrs so every 5min will get like 2-3k views
After some hours BAe vod will also start having a similar behavior

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>>17366857
Pomu's cover stopped being stuck at sub premiere CCV views, I guess.
It pretty much doubled it's 9K views (that it had after 2 whole hours) in a few minutes.

I don't think it's gonna catch Bae's though since the difference in audience is a considerable one.
I'm still hoping both do well (especially since the rat's first one having mediocre numbers).

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>>17367429
Someone could member her and scrape the SC numbers. I would but she needs to shower first. And I need a scrapper.

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Are you idiots live numberfagging VODs that haven't finished processing?

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>>17367423
Btw she had 8k or something CCV on this. VOD viewcount is fucking insane

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>>17366857
>Nijisanji orison do pretty well.
Is there even a Niji original song over 5 mil views that isn't Virtual to Live?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwZZeMNanKw
Is the closest I think.

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Pomu and Finana have the same number of subs as Bae if you combine them. Maybe we should combine their song numbers and see if that beats Bae?

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>>17367714
Just ignore them anon. We have a ccv to vod timeloop earlier.

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>>17367803
Sister Claire's 'Dogma' and one Chronoir song.

[Anonymous No.]

We really desperately need a 24-hour vod view site.

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>>17367714
Not only that, unprocessed MV premiers.

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She worked really hard on this, I wonder if the 4000 views is an accurate number

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_TLQsaAgU

[Anonymous No.]

anyone scraped the niji new outfit acrylic stands stock? apparently it's sold out.

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>>17367893
then make one
no one else has made one because they're not stupid and they know VODs is a pointless metric for LIVE STREAMERS

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I say 15k for Gura and Kronii already capped at 7k

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>>17367714
newfags coming to this thread becasue of lazu outfits like
>>17367743
>VOD viewcount is fucking insane

Anyway pomu has started dequeuing a lot faster than i tought. Most videos take 3-4hrs before updating every 5min.

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I am wondering does the algorithm help when the original jp song is written in jp but the covers are written in romaji?

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>>17367893
Even better, an adjustable VOD site that you can search by date or amount of time since publication.

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>>17368005
is escape simulator that shit wont touch 14k

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>>17367977
They literally get paid off VOD.

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>>17365278
Move on lofi

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>>17367954
It's not even for sale yet.
Same stuff happened to Holo merch before when they announced it before it was available.
Don't fall for catalog bait.

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>>17367977
This ain't twitch. Everyone in these threads already knows CCV is fucked beyond belief. Continuing this silly t-they're live streamers VODs don't count shit after that+ after seeing Cover literally advertises by views (like any youtuber really) is schizophrenia

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So what is more likely, Pomu/Finana beat Bae or Bae will have 200k before Pomu/Finana have 50k?

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>>17367977
>t. hasn't seen the official Cover document

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>>17368215
fucking hell, that got me, my mistake for even seeing the catalog i guess.

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>>17367923
>Music, Mix, Lyrics - KIRA
Wow

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>>17368389
Shame it's gonna be sub 500k views forever.

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>>17368292
>Bae will have 200k before Pomu/Finana have 50k
Pomu and Finana both literally had bigger premieres than Bae (9k, 8k vs 4k)
What do you think?

Bae is probably going to get more views in the long run, but Pomu and Finana are going to get to 50k with relative ease.

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>>17368339
If only you fact check it first

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>>17367446
The Cap is real

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>>17367923
>named a song Tsunami
Tf was she thinking

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>The city of Youtube

Doing its dumb bullshit again like it did last night. Random 800 ccv loss out of nowhere for absolutely no reason

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>>17368480
It's already a success if they could break 100k view

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>>17368647
I am gonna level with you, I know this isn't meant to be a /vt/ sisters thread but still, do you really think Finana reads the news?

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>>17366117
It's probably that faggot who unironically posted a picture of the black ship spam and actually used it not as a picture of peak shitposting for fun, but that 'enfags are cancer'.
He is unironically still holding a grudge over shit from a year+ ago that the majority of users on this board right now probably weren't even AROUND when that shit happened.

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>>17368745
they have enna to beat

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>>17368745
For the NijiEN songs? 100k is not going to happen.

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>13k Gura
I see why the chumbuds are getting uppity again

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>>17368745
don't be such a pessimist nijifriend, if the song is good it can absolutely go past that.

[Anonymous No.]

>be a niji enjoyer
>avoid clicking any holo content
>check a single holo orbiter video for 2 minutes
>yt already recommending me goomba

it's all artificial. the algorithm decided to recommend holo to anyone that watches vtubers and ignore everyone else. Talent is not a factor at all

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>>17368771
That's actually typical /hlg/ shit. That general consists of like, 90% schizos and 10% very petty oldfags. They remember grudges between JP holos, grudges against nijiJP, grudges in their own threads. He's relatively sane to hold a relatively recent grudge compared to what goes on there.

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>>17368745
The 6th most subbed Niji's long awaited orison has 30k views in a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7v-KOUHZE

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>>17368907
breaking into the algo NEEDS talent.

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>>17368907
who's a holo orbiter? they can't be an orbiter if they can't collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17368818
Exactly. Read again, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>17368907
nice tweet man

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>>17364199
List of NijiEN's songs
Elira - Goodbye Sengen (362,030) 3 months
Petra - phony (339,135) 4 months
Petra - Tokimeki Broker (139,914) 2 months
Millie - Marshall Maximizer (388,171) 1 months
Millie - phony (151,969) 2 weeks
Enna - Wish of the Songbird (238,660) 3 months
Enna - KING (130,977) 2 weeks

Currently Pomu's cover is at 23k and Bae's at 30k. I can see it beat Bae's cover if it flopped like her Halloween cover.
Also Millie is the best NijiEN's singer numberwise.

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>>17368933
I figured as much. We've been infested with some of /hlg/'s schizos since the fall of last year and they never left.

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>>17369064
>I can see it beat Bae's cover if it flopped like her Halloween cover
nigga that shit has 400k views.

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>>17368968
Ui
>>17368950
yup baby shark is the epitome of musical talent, the numbers dont lie hurrr

[Anonymous No.]

4k watching the post costume collab, 1 pov.
I guess HoloEN really did spare NijiEN by not overlapping them.

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>>17369064
>flopped like her Halloween cover
That cover has more views than anything you listed...

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>>17368907
I was redirected to "100 holo songs" after Finana's song

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>>17369064
>posts list of videos that never beat Bae's first cover
>i can see it beat bae's cover
What did anon mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

y-yay

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>>17369157
toursit will ALWAYS dissapear.

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>>17369064
You feel good until you realize Anya has a 2 month old Phony cover with 440k.

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>Gura at 13k

the tally list later will be funny to see for the EN side

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>>17369157
All Kiara btw

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>>17369070
It's not that bad, I've only seen mukkun like 5 times and N*zomi like twice.

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>>17369122
>>17369176
It's numberrot but 400k in 3 months is pretty low for a Holo cover isn't it?

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>>17369237
to be fair, Anya's Phony got a little bit of boosted hype because it released at the same time as Suisei's Phony and was better

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>>17369230
SSSUUUUUUUSSSAAANNNN!
Go ahead and tweet this @TeamYT, 0 views but with active chatters is always great and gets the point across WITHOUT polls.

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>>17369248
so far, covers don't count

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>>17368907
Welp they are responsible for at least creating hundreds to thousands of new vtuber from all over the world across the YT and Twitch during 2020. So it's all fair game

[Anonymous No.]

Bae's cover is over six minutes what the hell.

>>17369290
Actually I'm surprised that we didn't see more of the dancer since there were a lot of L word.

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>>17369354
>active chatters
2 of them are spam bots

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>>17369296
Yes it's quite low for a Holo EN song. Better than a lot of the low tier JPs do but then again they put out a LOT of stuff and a decent amount gets buried in the shuffle.

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>>17369176
IIRC, Bae hated how she sounded on that cover so she never advertised it afterwards.

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>>17369421
Yea I'm deleting my message because I actually just checked the timestamp. I'm an idiot.

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>>17369296
is a halloween cover
it only works at one time of the year and there is myth or trick that overshadows it.

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>>17369425
A lot of their old covers are in that range, even Suisei has a few.

[Anonymous No.]

Any contender for bronze today? Since we pretty much know gold goes to poruka and silver to onyon

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>>17369249

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>>17369365
>aki rose beating nijien outfits
impressive
>>17369418
that is the original

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>>17369396
indeed what would we do with all the 1views of vtubing
that's like being grateful to pokimane or whichever twitch hoe for pushing thousands of talentless girls to become titty streamers

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>>17369450
that still means you are not adding to the viewer count, something we figured out about viewers getting flagged even if they paid premium

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369479
FBK

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>>17369340
I'm no phony connoisseur, but I have watched Anya's karaoke, so I'm deeply skeptical of this statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369479
Elira.

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>>17369556
It goes Chima > Anya > Suisei >>>>> everyone else

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>>17369445
>pay a bunch of your own money to make a song
>get back the results
>you are unhappy with it
>o-okay, thanks

Why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369632
Bae had it as a deadline and realised she couldn't fix it in time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369632
Attracting saviorfags who are willing to give away a lot of money

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369445
She used Kronii to mix it. Kronii isn't exactly the most cocksure, Bae should have done her best to promote it for both their sakes. I didn't think it was bad...

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>>17369556
Sound engineering goes a long way. I mean people think Koyori and Lui can sing well since their covers are dynamite.

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>>17366857
Pomu's cover was really bad so it Will have very few viewers the coming days. Finana's original song was actually pretty good and something a bit different so maybe her can get big in the coming days

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>>17369619
Chima’s phony cover is straight up one of the best vtuber covers in the industry. It’s sort of a shame Suisei’s version has such explosive growth when you have an absolute gem of a cover already there honestly.

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>>17369819
Chima's got millions and millions of views. Tons of people appreciate it. Suisei has a bit of star power right now, her dogshit Animal cover is getting 1 million in 3 days.

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>>17369819
>one of the best vtuber covers in the industry
If you talking about phony then yes. But cover in general? Lol fuck no. Phony isnt even among the best song out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369619
Anya > Suisei > Shion > Watame > Chima

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>>17369340
The fuck are you saying, Anya can't sing. She betrayed my trust after butchering an Ado song.

[Anonymous No.]

what's with that anon that's so mad about suzy's animal, that's such a funny thing to get upset about

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369819
Imagine believing this. Chima is a mid tier singer at best who can do a decent opera gimmick so people overrate her so so much.

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>>17369941
kek seetheeee it's faster than her Phony already

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370035
Butthurt Pekora fag. Miko is proving she doesn't need Pekora to remain popular so his entire "numbers rabbit" world is crashing down around him.

[Anonymous No.]

ELIRA GOLD
>ELIRA GOLD
ELIRA GOLD
>ELIRA GOLD

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>>17370146
?? she didnt beat ako or fbk

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>>17369365
How did Finana have more viewers for her outfit stream than Pomu but lower on the song premiere, both outfit streams led into the songs

[Anonymous No.]

Bael 1 hour vod 22k views with only 2k ccv.......

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370199
Pomu suck at numberfagging desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370195
It's one of the retarded ENGOLD spammers. I hate them so much, and I HATE YOU ANON FOR DOING IT AS A JOKE.
REMEMBER: SHITPOST RESPONSIBLY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370199
Finana edged the viewers too much with her reveal so when it was over people just passed out and didn't click on the premiere link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370216
6 minute average watch time is normal. If we used funky chumbud math Bae is getting 11k, which is absurd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370262
But they do highlight the meaningless of "gold" medals in general. Some random shitter can punch up for one day and brag that they beat a normal stream by a couple of thousands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370304
Bae's stream had, easily, a 10K peak.
My personal Indian shaman confirm the rat's incline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370304
>6 minute average watch time is normal
No it's not dude, what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370364

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>>17370364
Anon of course we know that, the medals themselves are really only something done so the thread has something to talk about on the day-to-day, otherwise it'd just be looking at trends once a week/month and the occasional song numberfagging.
Which wouldn't be that bad imo, but people are going to find a need to HAVE to talk about UNGABUNGA BIG NUMBER NOW so better to at least try and keep most of it one place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369819
Imagine saying this when Ayame Goodbye sengen and Deathstar getcha exists

[Anonymous No.]

Gura 14k peak today, puzzle games with multiple povs really are annoying for numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370545
It's CCVid hitting both of them. 14k has been Gura's average the entire week unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370262
Cope gold. Pls undasutand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370506
We only started tracking medals after that one Kuzuhafag kept saying that strong overall performance from hololive was meaningless if Kuzuha got the gold.

[Anonymous No.]

Move here when you fags done
>>17370532
>>17370532
>>17370532

[Anonymous No.]

>>17369365
FINANA EN GOLD
>FINANA EN GOLD
FINANA EN GOLD
>FINANA EN GOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370545
I was doing some digging for other vtubers for this game and apart from some really depressing NijiEN/ID collabs, Mysta and Finana's collab was 2.7k/1.1k.
This was before Luxiem started inclining, but it's pretty bad numbers for everyone who has touched it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17370630
>let a niji shitposter derail your threads forever
such power..

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>>17369632
If you think that's bad just look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRpDpfE69Y
Forgotten after released.