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>> No.17696138

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.17696275

This one

>> No.17696287
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* FINAL TALLY YESTERDAY *

Here it goes
>56,541: Marine (Hololive)
>39,127: Rushia (Hololive)
>36,861: Aqua (Hololive)
>34,287: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,411: Kanata (Hololive)
>25,127: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>20,799: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,233: Miko (Hololive)
>17,619: Hal (merise)
>17,502: Korone (Hololive)
>16,164: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,373: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,090: Baelz (Hololive)
>12,187: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,769: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>11,279: Botan (Hololive)
>10,840: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,127: Okayu (Hololive)

>> No.17696390

>>17696119
Implied fellatio edit when?

>> No.17696481

I'm pretty sure I'm late on this news but how does this affect vtuber numbers especially event streams?
https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/

>> No.17696488
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17696488

Pippa Jim collab

>> No.17696548

KFPs on twitter are banding together saying they don't like Q
https://twitter.com/Weaboo_sensei/status/1489427357614194690?t=3fx3VAGie4HvDQ-8J1HUdg&s=19
https://twitter.com/GodofAmiibo/status/1489425158012080132?t=s9kln4StiUazK5Vu3TG5dw&s=19

Why are they like this?
I like Kiara but the KFPs are insufferable

>> No.17696564

koyorin got a placement today so im happy, even if it took pain and dino death

>> No.17696583

>>17696287
Overseas Tally?

>> No.17696608

>>17696548
2 whole KFP
ONLY BIG NUMBERS HERE

>> No.17696612

>>17696548
okay, but how is this about numbers

>> No.17696642

>>17696481
Not at all because it's just for streamers under a thousand subs that only stream on mobile

>> No.17696659

>>17696548
You tell them sister.
>>17696564
10k is 10k. I don't know what she averages but she gets a few of those a week. She really isn't letting this opportunity go to waste.

>> No.17696670

>>17696608
Yeah that's like 10 percent of her active fanbase anon.

>> No.17696684

>>17696548
2 KFPs holy shit the numbers.
You'll find more dissenting opinions on this fucking board, idiot.
Make a bait thread about it if you want to get people riled up.

>> No.17696699

>>17696481
None pretty much. It affects you if
>You livestream from a mobile device (Phone)
>Are small
So its targeted at 'on the ground reporting by amateurs'.

>> No.17696750
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>>17696287
* FINAL EN TALLY YESTERDAY *
>NOTE
decided to lower the standard to 5k as 10k for EN while they are being culled is unfair

Here it goes
>13,090: Baelz (Hololive)
>9,447: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,576: Mumei (Hololive)
>8,460: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,825: Vox (Nijisanji)
>7,613: Luca (Nijisanji)
>5,947: Mumei (Hololive)

>> No.17696772

>>17696488
That Jim? Is he alive?

>> No.17696790

>>17696659
her floor is pretty low since she's 4th in her gen in ccv, it varies between 5k and 8k, but i really like her so im happy when she does well

>> No.17696847

>>17696608
Count the replies too faggot, all kfps

>> No.17696882
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17696882

>Pippa at 600 from a Flamenco and Jim mention
Pippa would get a major buff from raids, but boy, oh boy, the drama

>> No.17696899

>>17696750
Wait till NijiENfags attempts a "male gold"
Might as well give everyone a participation medal at this point

>> No.17696962

>>17696882
Jim still gets 10k ccv in his guerilla streams despite his weeb cancer ass fucking him up, Pippa could leech on those if she want to.

>> No.17696974

>>17696612
We're a /news/ thread too didn't you know?

>> No.17696992

>>17696882
>hololive managers are going to have to actually work managing who raids who so in company favoritism doesn't fuel rrats

>> No.17697000

>>17696548
Nigga go make a thread! This is /#/ not /drama/

>> No.17697074

>>17696564
Good for pink dog, she works hard. She even has another stream scheduled later

>> No.17697135

>>17696992
Raids to events should be the norm, Raids to normal streams should be prevented

>> No.17697141

How do you guys think the raids in holo will work? Will the company dictate who raids who or will it be a free for all for everyone? Imagine gen 3 just raiding each other and maximizing their numbers.

>> No.17697142

>gaining likes faster than views
Ah its the classic EOP that enters the video for 2 second, likes, then leaves (but not before dropping a comment)
Such a fascinating culture

>> No.17697237

>>17697000
It is when something happens to Niji
>>17697142
>what's processing?

>> No.17697270

>>17697141
probably have to ask manager, unless there's only like one other holo live
which actually makes me realize that holos that stream long and late might benefit from this

>> No.17697286
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>>17696287

*FINAL ID TALLY YESTERDAY*

Here it goes
>2,175: Moona (Hololive)
>1,972: Reine (Hololive)
>1,233: Anya (Hololive)
>767: Iofi (Hololive)
>571: Mika (Nijisanji)

*Standard is at least 400 viewers

>> No.17697444

kek when raids implemented, Holos aren't likely to use them, but nijiEN could use it for their own box-push. Could this be a chance for them?

>> No.17697550

>>17697286
Moona beating an EN-buffed collab is pretty impressive

>> No.17697588

>>17697444
NijiEN doesn't need to. They're doing fine and are slowly taking over the EN scene.

>> No.17697616

wondered why koyo lost people, turns out stinky is also streaming at this slot for some reason

>> No.17697655

>>17697588
is the slow and steady anon come back?

>> No.17697700

>>17697444
can't wait to be reminded of vtubers i hate while watching vtubers i like
i could see that making quite a few japs rage too as the chat gets flooded with tourists

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17697728

100k 24H is conservative

>> No.17697746

>>17697135
Interesting idea, how did you come up with this? What's the logic behind it?

>> No.17697761

>>17697700
Imagine the drama if some 10k indie vtuber tries to raid a bigger vtuber for clout just like the Pokimane drama recently.

>> No.17697780
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>> No.17697792

>>17696882
>Pippa actually shit on Ethan Ralph
Fucking based, LMAO

>> No.17697956

>>17697700
>get box pushed into vtuber I hate
>drop a popular rrat
>drop a dislike
>leave

>> No.17698044

>>17696992
>Raids Ayame, she never raids back
>Not raiding a genmate
>Stars raiding Holos, Holos raiding Stars
>cross-company raids
>clout-chasing eceleb raids
>Companies using raids as marketing

I'm sure, I'm missing a lot more

>> No.17698121

>>17698044
Yea. I'm pretty sure Raids are going to be de-facto disabled to minimize the chances of drama happening, and only turned on for big events.

>> No.17698275

>>17697616
Speaking of Orca, is it worrying she's just done utawakus and zatsudans since coming back or she just hasn't found her footing yet. She's still getting good SCs and CCV but it feels like she's living in her own bubble sometimes.

>> No.17698333

>1 hour 58k views
Flopped? Flopped

>> No.17698336

>>17698121
People are gonna start getting mad at Hololive for not accepting raids.

This is one way NijiEN will soar, they are willing to take on such cancer so random vtubers and regular yourubers will just raid them instead.

>> No.17698381

>>17698333
atleast they won the likes gold

>> No.17698397

>>17697141
Holo will raids their niji friend
e.g okayu to that white cat from niji or sui 30k karaoke to toko inui

>> No.17698417

>>17698121
>>17698336
Is Hololive uniquely the only company that has to worry about drama from raids? Seems like other companies wouldn't have to worry.

>> No.17698450

>>17698044
fubuking raids akwa with her andys

>> No.17698451

>>17698275
the collab with marine, korosan and koyorin was a good start, and she did go to rushia's totsu yesterday, i think she's just taking her time to get back into it

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>>17698333
1m in 2 days maybe.

King > Queen

>> No.17698463

>>17698397
Kiara raids Pomu
Calli raids Vox/other Nijimales

>> No.17698496

>>17698275
>she's living in her own bubble sometimes.
>Raft collab
>called into Rushia's totsu yesterday
Bruh

>> No.17698566

>>17698333
Jewtube views verification takes longer now

>> No.17698571
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>accepts everyone's raids
>streams over an event stream
>doesn't raid it
>ends stream
Imagine the shitstorm.

>> No.17698603

>>17698571
unironically i can see an ID doing this

>> No.17698645

>>17698571
I can see Pekora doing exactly that

>> No.17698648

https://twitter.com/gokurakuyu_spa/status/1489433532908937216

they decided to resume sale of the carrot bowls because of high demand.

>> No.17698659

>>17698417
It's kind of what happens when you climb to the top and make your brand with a rep for trying to avoid drama. All companies would have to be concerned about grifters, but given how Hololive has inclined while keeping to themselves quite a bit (not completely, I'm aware they do collab with IRL celebs and stuff on the JP side), having a bunch of people try and raid and then try and manufacture some beef over it is something I can see happening.

>> No.17698685

>>17698417
>Chinks
>Unicorns
>Beggars
>Dramafags
>Normalfags
Why wouldn't Holos worry about raids? It would be a bad idea. Also it's already considered rude amongst the fans to barge into another stream and announce that someone else brought you there, so the culture isn't raid friendly.

>> No.17698697

>>17698463
>Calli raids nijihomos when holoen/holojp are streaming
She's stupid enough to do this

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>>17698571

>> No.17698732

>>17698648
Gonna say it every time I see it:
Infinitely better value than an akasupa.

>> No.17698734

>>17698697
oh god the board will implode

>> No.17698745

>>17698648
"""who would buy 3500 yen carrots?"""

>> No.17698765

>>17698463
>>17698697
And called it "contributing" to the community kek

>> No.17698780

HERE WE GO BOYS
VERIFICATIONS STARTING NOW

>> No.17698789

>>17697728
it's not gonna break King's record huh

>> No.17698845

>>17698780
^Views are getting culled slightly. Went from 62k to 68k down to 67k kek

>> No.17698871

>>17698697
Absolutely, so I see management coming down like a sack of bricks with hard rules of "No external raids without prior approval", and that approval will pretty much not be happening in almost every instance.

>> No.17698876

>>17697746
not that anon but you want everyone to watch events so it makes sense to raid those. you don't raid normal streams since it shows favoritism and hurts the "one big family" image if someone forgets or purposefully does not raid another girl. that creates necessary narratives.

>> No.17698894

>>17698648
great advertisement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhDH5V0PP6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCP8IfwHFzU

>> No.17699065
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17699065

https://kizunaai.com/20220131_announcement/

Remember that Eriko is good friends with Nozomi. Yup non-chan aint gone for good

>> No.17699111

I don't know how twitch work but can people even reject raids coming to their stream? I can imagine people like Pekora just openly accepting raids from literally anyone considering how open she is at letting people access her content.

>> No.17699120

>>17699065 (me)
*gone for good

>> No.17699125

>>17699065
Chinks takeover

>> No.17699131

>>17698894
did cover pay peanuts-kun for this video?

>> No.17699169
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>>17698659
I'm always fucking sick that people are just out to get Hololive. Like why can't people just leave Hololive alone?

>> No.17699188

>>17698894

I kneel to Ponpoko and Peanuts-kun!

>> No.17699196

>>17699065
>non-chan
who?

>> No.17699257

Is there a way to check if someone enable the raid?

>> No.17699256

>>17699065
they had the momentum but killed it for chinks kek

>> No.17699308

>>17699065
Kizuna Ai Inc is falling under, huh? Was it really profitable for Ai before Hololive's popularity or did she really think it was good trying to get cash from chinks? Kizuna Ai inc is a japanese company with a japanese management, right?

>> No.17699315

>>17699065
Chink takeover. Watch as they got bought by bilibili or something.

>> No.17699319

>>17699131
he does it for free. ponpoko-baba just wants to eat some carrots

>> No.17699321

>>17696772
yep, he started to occasionally stream again. He deletes the streams afterwards to avoid strikes on his channel but people upload archives of them on yt.

>> No.17699330
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Anyone else seeing this?

>> No.17699338

>>17698336
>People are gonna start getting mad at Hololive for not accepting raids.
why would people get mad at them? can't they just make a super vague statement and say they want to avoid dramas and controversies to protect their talents.

>> No.17699350

>>17698876
> it shows favoritism
Can't help but feel like this is some snowflake, "treating the girls with safety gloves" shit.
Everyone knows every Holo is closer to some than others and they're probably only going to raid their genmates anyways.
The drama will come if Mori decides to raid Vox or something, but even then, it's not a big deal unless she's dumb enough to raid him over Kiara (if they're all overlapping).

>> No.17699371

>>17698765
>And called it "contributing" to the community kek
guaranteed some faggot gets on their sopabox over on Twitter and starts lecturing everyone about 'raid etiquette' only to get chewed out by everyone

>> No.17699374

>>17699196
To use current terminology..Kizuna Ai's roommate.

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>>17699169

>> No.17699440

>>17699374
Wait, she's friends with THAT Nozomi or is there another one I should know about?

>> No.17699469

>>17699196
Newfagschama... it aint even a secret

>> No.17699485

>>17699330
have you never seen processing before or something anon?
just report back when it hits milestones

>> No.17699494

>>17699350
It depends, I don't think it'll be that big of a deal, but you know how people get with rrats and bullshit. It's not like Hololive needs to in-system raid anyways when people who are interested have been trained to move over themselves anyways.
It'll be up to management to decide how they wanna proceed of course.

>> No.17699538

>>17699330
Reflect was frozen for hours before the floodgates opened. I suspect the same thing will happen here.

>> No.17699557

>>17699485
Yeh, I had suspicions, but just checking to make sure it's not just me.

>> No.17699569

>>17699350
>Everyone knows every Holo is closer to some than others and they're probably only going to raid their genmates anyways.
it's one thing if it is implied versus blatantly showing it as hard evidence. you gotta tip-toe around these things
>The drama will come if Mori decides to raid Vox or something, but even then, it's not a big deal unless she's dumb enough to raid him over Kiara (if they're all overlapping).
I hope she's not that dumb but given the recent history of her actions, it isn't too far-fetched for her to actually promote nijien males over actual holos.

>> No.17699590

>>17699350
Hololive has never allowed raids. They will disable it for everyone. That shit will create drama and they don't want that.

>> No.17699629

>>17699494
I hope they never enabled it since even the nips still think of raid as those old trolly kinda raid. But knowing EN and their retardation + twitchery, they'll probably complaint and throw management under the bus again if people ask them about it

>> No.17699656

>>17699569
i'd like to see fujos vs deadbeats on the catalog. at least it will be fresh.

>> No.17699690
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Kizuna Ai Hololive gen 7 or some special gen? I know that man Yagoo loves broken people or people with a tragic background.

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17699696

>>17699485
just shot through 100K in a tick from 80 somethings

>> No.17699700

>>17699330
It's very rare for Mori and Gura, they usually reach high number then freeze.
Q seems freeze when the number is still low.

>> No.17699712

>>17699485
>just report back when it hits milestones
100k GET lol

>> No.17699718

>>17698685
>Chinks
>Unicorns
>Beggars
>Dramafags
>Normalfags
All of Hololive archenemies

>> No.17699758

>>17699656
it will only help this thread because shitposters will be busy creating narratives and shitpost in those threads

>> No.17699909

The most logical raid order would be Kiara's midday stream raids Ina's 4pm stream raids Ame's 6 or 7 pm stream raids Gura's 8pm stream raids IRyS/Gen 2's 10pm stream. But that would actually make the late night stream slot a buff instead scaring off EST viewers.

>> No.17700000

>>17699590
I don't see any benefit of raids. I really don't.
>>17699569
I'm just so sick of an adult woman rebelling against her employer, she feels like my nephew but she's 17. If you hate your employer, hate what you do, and hate you fans just leave or be an absentee. Cover ain't gonna do shit about it if you stream 3 times a month. At least promote stars if nothing else.

>> No.17700015

So you need to accept the membership gift from others unlike twitch?
https://youtu.be/hLkXR6pvajc

>> No.17700049

>>17699629
Thankfully based Yagoo prioritizes his Japanese branches above all others.

>> No.17700071

Selen 2.3k playing Minesweeper, despite the overlap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrIlx5uAs0s

>> No.17700091

>>17699169
People love an underdog
But what people really love is seeing a big corporation fall down HARD

>> No.17700153

>>17700000
That's because raids as a concept are inherently bad.

>> No.17700161

>>17699338
>raids Hololive
>no shoutout
FUCK HOLOLIVE, DON'T SUPPORT THE COMPANY

>> No.17700220

>>17700000
>I don't see any benefit of raids. I really don't.
He says in a Numbers thread.
Anyone in HoloEN who gets raided by Gura when she's ending gets an instant 10k boost, which would instantly double their peak.
JP 3D live numbers will be through the roof if we can get 100% pure funneling instead hoping for people to switch over voluntarily.

>> No.17700240

>>17699169
Because popular thing = bad
2018-2019 Niji
2020-present Holo

>> No.17700247

>>17699169
Success breads jealousy

>> No.17700305

>>17700015
You can only receive memberships from other members and if I'm not mistaken it's the highest tier up to 5 dollars or something

>> No.17700321

>>17700000
The quints....

>> No.17700327

>>17700000
>promote stars if nothing else
Why the hell is Mori not supporting the Holostars more? I legitimately can't understand since she loves males and saviorfagging, and since it's within the same company it would be easy to organize.

>> No.17700338

>>17700240
This. They did mito REAL wrong back then. Hope it'll never happen againts any holo in the future

>> No.17700347

>looking at the povs from the nijisanji Collab
That anime singer really didn't took off...a real shame looks like she invested a lot in her vtuber persona

>> No.17700403

>>17700347
>That anime singer
Who are you talking about anon?

>> No.17700423

>>17699169
Because Holo is the top. If they don't disable raids I can see that they got a raid from some political streamer to force them to promote <insert woke FOTM political issue here>.

>> No.17700424

>>17700091
Hololive isn't even a big corporation. They would have been clasified as a small business in the US up until about a year and a half ago.

I hate all these people treating Nijisanji as if they aren't larger. Like in what universe do these people live? It's like saying Coke is the underdog against pepsi.

>> No.17700433

>>17700347
She just got hired to be a dub VA for one of the most popular anime of the season. I'm sure she's fine

>> No.17700517

>>17700327
because it's not about saviorfagging, if you get what i mean

>> No.17700671

>>17700424
In Japan, Niji is still bigger, but not with anywhere near the gap that existed in 2020.
Internationally? No contest in favor of Hololive.

>> No.17700711

>>17700161
if it's literal whos, does that even matter?

>> No.17700760

Was Ame problem recently just her inconsistency? Schedules, etc. I'm noticing her more on vrabi and this month started well for her numbers-wise

>> No.17700801

>>17700161
>Some vtuber tries to raid Pekora for clout
>Pekora:"ok dud"
>Chat just won't give a shit and will drown out the raid
I'm convinced Pekora will let people raid if she is given a chance even if the raid will be full of anti.

>> No.17700804

>>17700671
I think they're talking about company size and infrastructure.
Cover is catching up rapidly, but it's hard to deny that Anycolor is still ahead in roster size and industry connections.

>> No.17700828

>>17700671
I'm going off of the financial reports we have, Anycolor's 2019 and Cover's 2020. Anycolor is bigger, the only thing Hololive beats them at is raw profit.

The point isn't who's bigger, the point is Nijisanji is not a ragtag group of underdogs.

>> No.17700858

>>17699330
it's verification, blame kpop fags

>> No.17700890

>>17700804
With NijiEN males alone, Nijisanji is going to catch up with Hololive internationally. Even NijiEN females are catching up.

>> No.17700934

>>17700161
Nah it's going to be fine even some people on twitch don't accept raids because the chat culture is really different, can you imagine that one e-celeb that was "shit talking Gura in a sarcastic way" in her outfit debut doing a raid? She would panic thinking she did something wrong if his chat started doing the same to her without explanation

>> No.17700953

>>17700828
>>17700804
Right, that's completely fair. We have no idea what the numbers look like for 2021 on that front.

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>>17700890
>Even NijiEN females are catching up.
Really now. Have they beat Sana in viewership yet?

>> No.17700976

>>17700424
Pepsi is much bigger than Coke in terms of global market though.

>> No.17701000

>>17700828
Obviously because Nijisanji is the king, thanks to the successes of NijiJP branch and Luxiem. I think Holofags are just jealous at this point, they had their fun in 2020 and 2021.

>> No.17701079
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>>17701000
>>17700890
>samefagging

>> No.17701099

>>17700934
You mean Sodapoppins? Isn't that just his shtick or something? The dude is "ironically" acting like a douche in every stream.

>> No.17701108

>>17701000
You almost got me

>> No.17701137

/#/ is declining.

>> No.17701156

>>17699494
anon, I think staying in this place has rotted your mind, nobody gives a shit about the highschool girl tier bullshit that goes on around these parts, and taking measures to avoid highschool girls from gossiping is beyond retarded, especially if you have to handicap yourslef to do it.

>> No.17701191

>>17701137
The NijiZhangs won...

>> No.17701195

>>17701099
Yes that's my point just because you act ironic in your stream doesn't mean that other streamers can find what you do funny, blocking someone from raids is totally valid

>> No.17701205

>>17701000
Nijisanji has always been on top and Hololive has always been the underdogs.
>Luxiem
Give them a few months before you crown them. NijiEN was still behind HoloEN by 20% in watch hours despite streaming 3 times as much in January.
>2020-2021
Nijisanji used to be 8 times bigger than Hololive, now they're lucky to even get 75% of Hololive's watch hours.

>> No.17701240

>>17701137
Is there a place to numberfag real streamers on 4chan? I'm kinda sick of vtubers' low numbers already.

>> No.17701274

>>17701240
wait for the inevitable /incel/ board

>> No.17701286

>>17700671
>Hololive Super Expo 2022
>Makuhari Messe International Exhibition Hall 1-3
>Nijisanji Festival 2022
>Makuhari Messe International Exhibition Hall 1-5
holokek???

>> No.17701344

Q just shoot up to 160k. 1 mil in 10 hours?

>> No.17701357

>>17701205
Sounds like Nijisanji are the underdogs now. I don't think Hololive can do anything to blow their lead at this point.

>> No.17701375

>>17701344
nope. 20hrs range still

>> No.17701376

>>17700828
If you read Anycolor's report, you should know that most of their total net assets was thanks to foreign capital towards it, most notable was 1.9b JPY from Sony. Too bad Sony Music isn't investing money into them anymore, so future reports will be interesting going forward. Cover was able to pull themselves up through pure profit and much less reliance on foreign capital.

>> No.17701403

>>17701205
Exactly, NijiEN can only go up from here because they have a massive machine backing them. They are not afraid of going beyond the confine of vtuber contents. Thanks to the ever growing SEA market, NijiEN's viewership have gone up rapidly despite getting 1/5 of HoloEN's viewership just shy of a month ago.
If that's not telling you the potential incline of NijiEN then I don't know what is going to.

>> No.17701423

>>17700347
>>17700403
He's talking about AmaLee aka Monarch. I checked out her channel and I'm not sure if or when she actually debuted, but it was apparently recent.

>> No.17701498

>>17701375
Maybe, views are still being released slowly. I refreshed after having it sit on the screen for 15 minutes and it barely went up by 2k. Remember that Reflect was frozen for hours before it got fully released.

>> No.17701533

>>17701286
I wonder if Nijisanji Fes will feature NijiEN on their live show as well. It's the least Nijisanji can do after Luxiem helps carrying the brand for the past month.

>> No.17701541

>>17701376
>>17701403
the duality of anon

>> No.17701551

>>17701286
>sora concert
>aqua concert
>niji canceled concert
Nijikeks?

>> No.17701599

>>17701423
Naruhodo ne! She debuted early this year if im not remember it right. She is a pretty big ENutaite and has been on the VA/DUB industry for years now. Probably just doing Vtuber stuff for hobby or on the side like rachie and kyammi

>> No.17701603

>>17696119
CumDawg was right, you are a failure. It was only a matter of time until you exposed yourself.

>> No.17701628

Q is an absolute ear worm and its short too so its perfect for looping. This is going to do huge numbers.

>> No.17701630

>>17701357
>Sounds like Nijisanji are the underdogs now
Still bigger overall even if the fans engage less. The bowl they eat from is bigger. Hololive are the plucky underdogs that have withstood onslaughts from every corner of the internet. Nothing big here, just family that fought off everything by circling the wagons and enjoying a bit of pie in the sun right now.

I'm a holofan, I don't like them being perceived as the biggest in anything since people take it to extremes like they're the big evil corp and not just one agency of many. Let's wait for it to actually be true first.

>> No.17701643

>>17701628
no it's not

>> No.17701664

>>17701403
As an actual Nijifag I wish they would incline but shit is looking pretty damn bleak
nice larp tho

>> No.17701667

>>17701643
yes it is

>> No.17701686

>>17701643
Kek, here's a (you)

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>>17701533
>How about no? Keep your dirty irrelevant ass in that shithole and came back when you beat those holowhores

>> No.17701717

>>17697728
The only songs to break 1m in 24h are uploaded on Gura's channel. The next closest to the 24h wall is 1d 17h.
If it breaks 1m in 24h it will be considered absurdly successful.

>> No.17701755

>>17701628
I liked the animation but the song itself is terrible. Mori's usual audience won't notice though

>> No.17701767

>>17701664
>Luxiem
Doing pretty well, does better during hours in which Sea+TW+HK+JP can watch
>L,O,E
Hard to tell given CCVID appears to have smacked them across the face like HoloEN, but steady is what I can say from the minimal looking I've done at the numbers.

>> No.17701773

>>17701403
If the only potential source of growth is SEA I'd rather they stay small.

>> No.17701797

>>17701664
What bleak? Have you seen their viewership dude. 3 months ago, the collective audience is not even 10k, now their entire audience is around 25-30k. That's more than HoloEN right now, and around the range of Vshojo.

>> No.17701819

>>17701533
If you look at the 3D debut backlog LazuLight have 25 people ahead of them. Luxeim have like 36 people ahead of them. Nijisanji hasn't done a 3D debut since December 24th.

>> No.17701821

>>17701628
I literally only like some bits of the animation, not going to open it just to see them, maybe I'll make a soundpost, but I don't see myself listening to that

>> No.17701822

>>17701403
I don't care about Holo vs. Niji but if you look at it analytically they really haven't increased their audience that much, at least pertaining to the entire branch. Luxiem did bring in a pretty big new audience but we are seeing a couple things.

1. That new audience isn't watching the girls at all, like, at all. Their viewership hasn't increased even a little bit
2. Luxiem is already starting to stabilize, which isn't a bad thing, but a lot of those big numbers they were putting up in the beginning were probably tourists

>> No.17701860

>>17701797
>entire audience is around 25-30k.
and other hilarious jokes Nijiniggers tell themselves to sleep at night

>> No.17701905

>>17701628
theb only ones that liked that song are people that like mori music
it will get huge numbers but just because ithas gura and mori in it
maybe some nips will play it bc of deco27 but its nothing even remarkable

>> No.17701923

>>17701797
>That's more than HoloEN right now
HoloEN had more 30k streams in January than NijiEN has ever had 20k+ streams.

>> No.17701935

>>17701822
Kek, why do you assume Luxiem's audience won't watch the girls? NijiEN is all about sharing audience, give it time, they'll watch the girls.

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>>17701822
>I don't care about Holo vs. Niji

>> No.17701978

>>17701935
>NijiEN is all about sharing audience
Nijisanji is the opposite of that.

>> No.17701999

Maybe 4chan is in the minority because I've seen more positive about Q than what 4chan thinks though. Weird right?

>> No.17702008

>>17701821
The gif of the OP for example is more than enough for me

>> No.17702094

>>17701999
R-reddit bros?!

>> No.17702106

>>17701999
Don't listen to the faggots here, lol. My only complaint is that for a song as hyped up as it was I was surprised that it was only 2 and a half minutes long. I love everything else about it and that is going to be the prevailing opinion everywhere else.

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「Q」200K Get.
The verification jumps are plateauing rn

>> No.17702128

>>17701999
Mori antis, chink nijishills(more posts about Nijien in the Q thread than HoloEn), gura antis, and the song fucking sucks. That's why you're getting a different message here.

>> No.17702132

>>17701628
The numbers we have so far already prove this.
Just wait till retards spam the thread calling it a flop because it doesn't break Reflect's record.

>> No.17702141

>>17701978
I said NijiEN, not like that "high school cliques" of an embarrassment called NijiJP. It's fucking shameful how distant they are to their colleagues. NijiEN should be a prime example of what being a group is, inclusive, friendly and supportive. NijiJP has nothing but inner tribalism amongst their members.

>> No.17702190

>>17701999
Idk I've been looping the shit out of it also, the hate is overblown

>> No.17702215

>>17702132
People called Suisei's Animal a flop since it took 3 days to get 1 million. People think Anus Tart is a flop since it took it almost 2 weeks.

>> No.17702230

>>17701935
I mean, I guess things could change but we haven't seen that so far. Despite all the success Luxiem has had the viewership for the girls hasn't increased a single bit.

>> No.17702295

is Q proof that EN is getting culled not just in CCV but also in VODs? Gura may be pulling over 75k during her better gaming streams

>> No.17702343

>>17696548
they are not wrong tho

>> No.17702392

Mori 1.91M 510 days
90K in 81 days to be faster than AI

>> No.17702395
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>> No.17702406

>>17702230
Its helped out the real bottom of the barrel nijiEN girls, but the big 4 girls numbers haven't really changed at all.

>> No.17702419

>>17702295
No, it's proof that there wasn't that much hype for Q and it's not gonna break any records.

>> No.17702425

>>17702295
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17702430

>>17701999
400.000 vs 8000 is still a majority positive.
General consensus is that it's good.

...
Having said all that, i just watched Q for the first time and man is it cringy. Will probably need a special mindset to be able to sit through it.

>> No.17702444

>>17701999
You will eventually learn to never take """opinions""" /here/ serious in time, newfagchama

>> No.17702464

>>17702215
>people
It's just shitposters doing it because it gets under your skin

>> No.17702521
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>>17702295
You tell me

>> No.17702552

>>17701423
she voiced marin in the dress up darling anime dub, so she's a big deal i guess.

>> No.17702631

>>17701999
as always 90% of stuff said around these parts is overblown because people really do believe "anonymous imageboard" is permission to act like a nigger.

>> No.17702640

>>17702430
It’s literally not. It’s a retarded opinion to have.
People said the same exact thing about Caligula’s King and shitposted about the added English rap in the song for days, and guess what? It’s about to be the most watched cover in hololive history if you exclude Ochame Kinou. It’s the same shit again. 99% of the people who listen do not think like this at all

>> No.17702670

I wonder, if the conspiracy about chinks boosting Luxiem viewership was true, then why don't they push to get more clips of Luxiem on YT?
Having more clips on Bilibili will do nothing anyway since YT is more important for viewership. The amount of new clips of NijiEN is still miniscule compared to HoloEN.

>> No.17702761

>>17701999
>Maybe 4chan is in the minority
"Maybe"?

>> No.17702783

>>17701999
I mean if you're going to go to a hugbox to find opinions of course its going to be positive unless they completely butchered it. The song's good and gonna perform good number wise

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>>17702552
>>17701599
>AmaLee
What is happening here?
Back when she debut /#/ told me she's the biggest anime cover singer in the EN sphere and that we should keep an eye on her.

Now anons don't know here anymore?

She has an album coming out too btw. 1 track features Mori. And she's voicing Marin in the En dub.

>> No.17702854

>>17702783
not every website outside of here is a hugbox you dumb cunt

>> No.17702879

>>17702141
NijiEN took some big pointers from HoloJP that way

>> No.17702913

>>17702631
>people really do believe "anonymous imageboard" is permission to act like a nigger.
Anon summed up how this site work in one sentence

>> No.17702928

>>17702640
Hey, just saying my personal opinion at the end. The intro, the track, the progression, the 'cool Trigger' animation all hit unbearably cringy for me. 2nd try didn't make it better.

>> No.17702936

>>17702631
>>17702640
I honestly blame the retards who fell for the narratives getting peddled around here back when the board was created, because of that his place went from being a hobbist board to being "the place to control the narrative", where if you samefag hard enough you too can see your bullshit parroted by anime youtubers and retards on twitter

>> No.17702994

>>17700071
>playing Minesweeper
wow they really updated the graphics and the gameplay for Minesweeper. looks like it could almost fit in with an old RE game!

>> No.17703068

Unless youtube has another batch of verified views to unleash its looking like Q is trending to hit 1 million anywhere between 12 to 16 hours.

>> No.17703103

>>17702854
Of course, I'm just saying tis going to depend on where you get your opinions from. You're not really gonna find a schizo sperging about how Mori's rap ruined the song in Q's comment section compared to this cesspit

>> No.17703159

>>17703103
>schizo sperging about how Mori's rap ruined the song
Yeah, of course not. Just look at the viewership on Mori's songs. Her rap is very very popular.

>> No.17703238

>>17703068
Yeah, probably not gonna beat Reflect. Might have had a shot if it was on Gura's channel. Although both Mori and Gura are very popular in Japan so it might see a large boost once it hits JP prime time.

>> No.17703269

Rare moments of self reflection like this only happen during dead hours.

>> No.17703285
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What the hell Pekora is expensive

>> No.17703349

>>17703285
of course she is, do you think she's some cheap whore?

>> No.17703369

Okay, in order to bring this thread back to numbers:
https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1489468570216321026
https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1489468570216321026
https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1489468570216321026

Daisenpai's KING reached 1 mil

>> No.17703383

>>17703285
How...quaint. I don't know if there are any differences between hers and Okayu/Korone to justify the difference in price.

>> No.17703407

>>17703285
Touhoubros, we're still relevant ...

>> No.17703420

>>17701999
We are small...but we are more active than most big vtuber communities touristchama.
Where do you think the condoms superchat came from?
So remember that, tourist who hoped on this due the Mori drama.
Just like Mori lives rent free here we live rent free on her head.
Also
>Chumpedos cope central jumping on this anon to shit on their home AkA /here/ rumao

>> No.17703437

>>17703369
yeah, that happened 24 hours ago, she just noticed it

>> No.17703449

>>17701628
どうなってんのよ
>どうなってんのよ
どうなってんのよ
>どうなってんのよ

>> No.17703457

>>17703369
Just a little under a year. It's not the worst performance, but all the big and fast numbers from Suisei and others have warped my perception just a bit I guess.

>> No.17703513

>>17703068
It’s a pretty reasonable guess and I wouldn’t be surprised if it hit that but it’s too early to call yet. Each of these waves are like 8-12k views and there’s still a few hours to go before we get a real idea.
If it hits a million in 12-13hrs though that’d definitely be awesome just considering this is on Mori’s channel. It probably didn’t help that Gura didn’t send any tweet(s) out about Q either, apart from the RT of mori’s. This is where if I’m management I would drill in their heads to be more active in doing this shit for big moments.

>> No.17703546

>>17701999
Yes, basically everyone in Twitter is right and we are wrong, it's not that they fear to give their opinions because they will jump on them, right?
Like the QUALITY rigging Gura got on her first outfit! See all the positive comments validating that work!
https://twitter.com/Shin_umiushi_O/status/1390474532712960001

>> No.17703560

It's something funny I notice in the reply section for Calligula's King and Q's tweets: Most of the big vtubers replying always specifically mention how good or talented Mori is, singing her praises to high heavens and yet they don't even mention the other significant portion, which is Gura. Are they blacklisting her or something?

>> No.17703574

>>17703513
Yeah, Gura's twitter behavior baffles me. I know she is worried about twitter culture but shilling your own fucking song isn't going to get those kind of people coming after you.

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>>17703546
Forgot pic

>> No.17703693

>>17702631
Is it not? Are we not here for that reason alone?

>> No.17703691

>>17703560
Gura doesn't respond to clout chasers while Mori does.

>> No.17703702

>>17703560
Gura is the queen bitch, the unreachable queen. Her very presence is intimidating. Mori is more approachable for them. Also, Mori was the one that tweeted about it, lol. No tweet from Gura, just a retweet of Mori's tweet.

>> No.17703719

>>17703513
that's not how it works, batches get smaller over time

>> No.17703729

>>17703420
>>17703546
>>17703594

I mean, this site is the opposite of Reddit and Twitter in the sense that >>17702913
You CAN criticize someone's work. But if you acting like a retard outside of /here/ people will actually know who you are and treat you appropriately

>> No.17703746

>>17701999
literally who the fuck cares retard
this is what matters for # >>17703068

>> No.17703781

>>17703719
Just saw a fat 20k drop in like 5 minutes. Viewers are still being verified.

>> No.17703838

>>17703285
Max Factory as opposed to GSC.

>> No.17703851

>>17703285
Where king?

>> No.17703871

To get away from Q for a second its kind of amazing that Ame has streamed pretty consistently lately and her viewership has been very solid. HoloEN just needs to stream more.

>> No.17703886

>>17703693
and the reason why this place is so shit is because 90% of the people here genuinely think that way

>> No.17703914

>>17703691
This. Trying to get anything out of Gura on twitter is like trying to get blood from a stone. A truly worthless pursuit.

>> No.17703915

>>17703871
>streamers need to stream
hey, good idea!

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>>17703871
>solid
Solidly not breaking 10k

>> No.17703962

>>17703838
Oh. I wonder why though.

>> No.17703978

>>17703871
who knew that streaming gets you viewers

>> No.17703994

>>17702913
This is exactly what this board is for and of course the people would will use that to cause drama are a minority. Numberfags are finally going meta and realizing that /vt/ has low numbers too.

>> No.17704025

>>17703886
Yep, I enjoy the chaos but it doesn't change the fact that this place is fucking trash. What more evidence do you need than when Q dropped and we had endless baits and threads about how the song was about Mori cucking her fans and shit like that. Its a dumpster fire at all times.

>> No.17704032

>>17703285
because people will buy it

>> No.17704048
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>>17703942
pretty much the same as all nijiEN combined

>> No.17704075

>>17703914
Based on many vtweeters I've seen, there is a portion that feel rather spiteful towards Gura for not interacting with the wider vtuber sphere.

>> No.17704110

>>17703914
I just wish she retweets some cosplay/non-art tweets. Granted this guy didn't tag her or anything but this is worthy of a retweet for me
https://twitter.com/koni_same/status/1488052771438096387

>> No.17704115

>>17704075
good, we don't need their opinion
anything a vtweeter says should be immediately discarded

>> No.17704133

>>17704075
Now imagine if people raided Gura and she just ignored it.

>> No.17704135

>>17704048
Man niji en is so shit. Can't even beat blonde toxic gamer playing pokemon.

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>>17704048
And? Wait is it still burger hours? Why posting midget still

>> No.17704181

>>17703871
>HoloEN just needs to stream more.
What a surprise.

>> No.17704202

>>17704156
eigo wakaranai

>> No.17704215

>>17704075
of coruse they do, 90% of them only became vtubers because they thought it was a quick an easy way to get rich and famous and when that didn't pan out they of course start blaming the ones who are already successful for not giving them handouts.

>> No.17704220

>>17704048
Major collab only at 2k???? LOLOLOLOL!

>> No.17704235

>>17704075
Ah yes, vtweeters.
In other words, worth less than the shit on my shoe. Given how things can unfold I don't fault her in the least for avoiding 'the wider vtuber sphere' since that's filled with so many leeches and so much drama that it's really not worth engaging for HoloEN. I'm aware there are plenty of indies that are fine and aren't involved with that nonsense, but...

>> No.17704238

>>17704133
I will unironically kneel

>> No.17704274

>>17702141
Why is there rarely any funnel of more than 1k (give or take a few hundreds) for NijiEN, then? Even HoloEN, as small as they might be compared to HoloJP on normal streams (Gura not included), got funnels of 2-3k here and there

>> No.17704325
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Ruri and Akari joining hands to topple Nijisanji.

https://twitter.com/itmedia_news/status/1489188185536012300

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>>17704202
Here pokobe, come back with 10k burgersan

>> No.17704370

>>17704235
the ones that are ok are hardworking chubas that understand that they need to work to be successful and not trying to leech or cling on someone

>> No.17704426

>>17704156
collab with ayame iroha...

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>>17704347
I still don't understand what are you trying to prove but here, the JPs that couldn't get 10k today

>> No.17704514

>>17704426
>Ayame
Sadly, never happening but my dick can only handle so much, and the numbers it would bring

>> No.17704591

>>17704510
nta but koyo got a 10k today

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>>17704510
>pathetic attempt burgersan

>> No.17704630

>>17698333
>Flopped? Flopped
with 60k likes? youtube is surpressing the VOD numbers, they'll come in, in batches later.

For example, just checked it now and it's up over 280k

>> No.17704635

>>17704025
Absolutely. Oddly enough despite all the obvious shit posting we have here I feel like this is one of the most level threads in the catalog (not counting the character specific splits). Most of the shit posting is tongue in cheek and has that /sp/ rivalry bantz tinge to it. We don't put up with rrats here and we tell the rrat pushers to go kick sand.

>> No.17704665

>>17704370
https://youtu.be/SyLXDjCKxeU
This guy is doing pretty good. Now if only fuck up his SEO by making his name a pun on a technical term.

>> No.17704667

>>17704048
>single POV
>sub 3k

no way that collab is only 3k

>> No.17704683

>>17704325
Akari got a Live2D a few months back right? Has she been trying to the Holo/Niji way of streaming? The last video I saw from her was her going over a timelapse of Vtuber subscriber numbers and seeing her talk about how all the Hololive girls are passing her.

>> No.17704684

>>17704623
I really don't get you, try using your brain next time seanigger

>> No.17704712

>>17704635
...Sometimes.
There are times when the thread is an absolute dumpsterfire though but usually everyone gets it outta their systems by the next thread.

>> No.17704726

>>17704325
I love mair and asanoruri as singers, not sure about their other stuffs.

>> No.17704738

>>17699712
it's at 280k right now.

>> No.17704742

>>17704635
That'd probably have greater effect if there weren't two retards flinging shit right now

>> No.17704777

>>17704667
It wasn't, but it looks like they finished up, tracking backwards on vrbai.

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>>17704683
yes, the live2d in particular is to make it easier for her to do off the cuff streams because she came from the kizuna Ai era where her rig requires a room full of equipment to use properly. Not that it's really helped her release schedule much though

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>>17704683
Unlike AI, Mirai Akari doesn't have problem collabing with Holo.

>> No.17704959

>>17704325
Ruri is really the only active member left of the Asano sisters so it's good that she's found a new group to shack up with

>> No.17704960

>>17704875
>Mirai Akari
>OG vtuber
>One of the Heavenly Kings
>Literally kneeling to Suzy and Migo
Wow, lol, if that isn't symbolic to where the industry has gone.

>> No.17704993

>>17701999
>Maybe 4chan is in the minority
this place has become the dumping ground for all the schitzos and antis and trolls over the past 6mo. it's toxicly negative about EVERYTHING. This is because the r/hololive forum is heavily moderated killing any negativity or trolling. meanwhile the mods here let pretty much everything go.

I remember when fan posts used to be nothing but fan fauning (unless you were kiara), now even the most loved members of the community have nothing but trolls and hate posts in their fan threads.

don't expect an honest review of anything here. I remember how everyone here shat on Reflect too when it was released as well as calling myth or treat "cringe"

>> No.17705004

>>17704837
>original MV
>12k views
It's so fucking sad.

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>>17704684
>oh no, burgersan can't even check holostat now, claiming no JP break 10k ccv!

>> No.17705117

>>17704993
Criticism doesn't get moderated on r/hololive. It might get downvoted by the user base but the place isn't as heavily moderated as is commonly believed. Now if you go on there and create a thread titled "MORI IS DOING DRUGS AND KEKING HER FANS, LOL KEKBEATS REKT" then no shit that is going to get deleted and you will probably be banned.

>> No.17705333

Well, [Q] is about to hit 300k after 4 hours. 12-16 hours for 1mil sounds like a good guesstimate.

>> No.17705361

Is it just me or lately I see JP vs EN bait more than Hololive vs Nijisanji? Even someone tries to use NijiJP vs NijiEN bait just like this post >>17702141

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17705438

>>17705333
「Q」300K Get.
Nice numbers

>> No.17705442

>>17705333
Should get to 100k likes between 4-5 hours too at this rate.

>> No.17705472

>>17705361
only during burger hours. It goes back to holo vs jp by japan prime time.

>> No.17705512

>>17705438
Oh, and nevermind what I said about the verification jumps plateauing. Doesn't seem to matter lol

>> No.17705549

>>17704025
True, but at the same time is there anywhere else with a vaguely sustained numbers conversation? I used to mostly be an /m/ lurker because where the hell else could you find conversations about giant robots on an english message board circa the early 2010s? Animesuki? Similarly, what's my alternative to /#/?

Although I will say that 4chan in general tends to be better if the board isn't a place that naturally attracts newcomers. For example, /d/ is usually pretty civil in my experience because most people find it actively repulsive, but it's still pretty useful if you have a fetish with scarce material.

>> No.17705599

>>17705549
I mean, r/holostatistics is a thing. pretty dead but it's there if you want to be the change and all that

>> No.17705612

>>17705472
Probably twitchfags or vshojofags
I remember when reading r/lsf thread about youtubejp give gift membership and many posts there actually hate jp vtubers

>> No.17705633

>>17705361
All the regulars are used to the HoloJP vs HoloEN baits, and its even more dumb to compare right now when we know the culling is affecting EN more, just like it was affecting JP more at the start of the year. After all, Gura was the only one who managed to grab 20ks amongst the full culling. Now? She can't even hit 20k when she was able to hit that without much issue, Kiara getting less than 7k in MC is just flat out incorrect given her numbers for the MC server have always hit 7k as the floor for her peak in 2021, and just general waiting room fuckery.
So, instead, change targets. Luxiem vs HoloEN. NijiJP vs NijiEN, etc etc.
Shitposters have no real ties, they just want to cause shit. The MO of goddamn motherfuckin' ES fuckers. I know your game.

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Toko and Suisei's cover hit one million

>> No.17705791

>>17705549
>is there anywhere else with a vaguely sustained numbers conversation
I wasn't talking about this thread, just the board in general. I actually think this thread is fine and the shit posting rivalry between fanbases is pretty harmless and is just like the bantz of a sports rivalry. When you venture out into the catalog and get suffocated by actual schizos and rrats that is where the real bullshit is.

Some dude posting about "Reddit Duck" everyday has nothing on the actual mentally ill troglodytes that infest the catalog.

>> No.17705846

>>17705549
>is there anywhere else with a vaguely sustained numbers conversation?
Nope.
If you want numberfagging beyond "wow 100k viewers? That's a lot!", /#/ is pretty much the only place.
The price ofc is that the thread is bait-filled shit a lot of the times and you need to filter out half the posts to find actual discussion.
I think there's something about how numberfags care about objective things like raw numbers so they can't resist correcting blatant lies, which leads to the timeloops we see so often.

>> No.17705885

>>17705633
>goddamn motherfuckin' ES fuckers
I'm surprised that this board always only blame SEA when ES is just as bad as or even worse than SEA

>> No.17706028

>>17705846
nta but also, a huge portion of numberfags by nature are horribly insecure, that's why they care about this, which makes them easy to bait and enrage

>> No.17706041

>>17705599
Nah, /r/HoloStatistics is extremely alive, but there's zero discussion - it's halfway between a projections blog and a milestone archive. It's also completely Hololive-focused, and numbers are more fun when you're looking at all the numbers, not just a small slice of them.

>> No.17706080

>>17705885
It's an ES falseflag operation

>> No.17706178

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGlY6Ueaco0
Aquapex soon. Will this be gold for today?

>> No.17706223

Doesn't look like Q is beating any records, but 24 hour 1 million is still possible

>> No.17706314

>>17706178
Nothing on the schedule right now looks like it'll beat 30k+ for Hololive, so possibly gold, almost certainly a medal.

>> No.17706392

>>17706178
Looks like an easy gold to me.

>> No.17706428

>>17706178
>>17706314
how many pts left for master? and when does the current season finished?
hope she get it this time

>> No.17706429

>>17706178
Miko has a collab at 2000, but no info has been divulged.

>> No.17706456

>>17706429
It's ARK with Koyo.

>> No.17706461

>>17706429
pretty sure it's ark with koyo

>> No.17706550

>>17706456
>>17706461
Right, schedule just updated koyo's frame

>> No.17706643

>>17706428
She has less than a week.
She's 810 points away last I checked. (10k is masters)

>> No.17706810

>>17705361
Whether it's EN, JP, or SEA, Nijiniggers will always be Nijiniggers regardless of their ethnicity.
> Why are Nijiniggers so toxic? How does it happen?
there's no smoke without fire.
Their CEO is quite busy being passive aggressiveness and stroking his "meme" penis.
Execs are busy sucking the shareholders.
The managers treat their colleagues as competitors rather than a team.
Steamers are busy dealing with bullying cases.
Fans are rrat peddlers and cancel culture patrons. Twitter and youtube have an unhealthy overlap with matome/4chan.
It's toxic from top to bottom.
Nijiniggers confuse lacks of direction with freedom, irresponsible spending with growth. Supporting a company, which fires 50 girls in one day because of "culture" appropriation, requires a certain level of retardation.

>> No.17707106
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JOP views boost incoming

>> No.17707168

>>17707106
This will shut up the faggot who kept complaining about JP Holos not promoting EN's stuff

>> No.17707445

>>17706643
Aqua is getting close to Masters while Kuzuha still haven't reached it.

>> No.17707526

>>17707168
haha lol no

>> No.17707580

>>17707168
kek
no

>> No.17707644

https://twitter.com/EhLiar/status/1488350388109537287

>> No.17707673
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Q is already getting as much views as Chloe's Animal...
It hurts...

>> No.17707680

>>17707445
Kuzuha has never reached or tried to reach Master.
Most vtubers that do are hardcore Apex grinders like Chihiro who got there by doing trios with pros/preds.
Hell, Matsuri is Master.

>> No.17707688

>>17707644
>passionate community'd
kek

>> No.17707697

I cracked the code, guys
King in Gura's channel, Queen in Mori's
They are #1 & #2 in Hololive
King & Queen
Damn, I'm a genius

>> No.17707710

>>17707644
>the response
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAA GET OWNED

>> No.17707755

>>17707673
shouldn't have released the tenth fucking cover of that shit after 3 people already got over 1m for it

>> No.17707766

>>17707673
>newbie holo losing to established megastars
This normal, anon

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Watame's new short is doing pretty good.
300k+ so far.

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>>17707644
100% pollfags btfo

>> No.17707831

>>17707784
why are ensharts botting their polls wtf

>> No.17707841

>>17707644
Reminds me that one of their replies during CCVid was that the audience might be losing interest lmal

>> No.17707856

>>17707784
They aren't even trying.

>> No.17707884

>>17707768
Now if only she could get them to watch My Song... or any of her other half-dozen underperforming originals.

>> No.17707911

>>17707644
>We want to make sure that your metrics are high quality and come from actual humans and not computer programs. It takes our systems some time to figure out which views, likes, dislikes, and subscriptions are legitimate.
>Keep in mind that Realtime activity only shows estimates of potential view activity. It might not match the number you see on the watch page.
Basically confirms that youtube will always be a joke of a streaming platform for numberfagging CCV.

>> No.17707974

>>17707784
>we will cull the polls too
I am dead. There really is no hope for streaming on youtube

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>>17707841
unironic >your oshi is reclining bro

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>>17707884
*sniff*
Sure smells like a favela in here

>> No.17708014

>>17707768
>778k
>770k
>438k
>604k
Damn the first short wasn't a fluke.
She's been shilling these shorts on reddit too.

>> No.17708051

>>17707673
Should've release it earlier than miComet's Animal.

>> No.17708096

>>17707673
her cover's bad honestly

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>5 hours 8 mins
100k likes GET

>> No.17708173

>>17707911
CCVfags will never let go of their delusions.

>> No.17708253

>>17708014
>She's been shilling these shorts on reddit too.
Funny thing is she hasn't even shilled the new one on reddit yet.
It's just a really good short.

>> No.17708283

>>17708096
Fix your ears.

>> No.17708305

>>17707911
Pretty much.
Now i understand why an AoE2 caster i know that wanted off twitch went to facebook gaming instead of youtube.
And this just reinforces that fucking facebook gaming will continue to surpass youtube as a streaming platform.

>> No.17708310

>>17708253
i don't know why they keep trying to shill on that shithole, these days fucking memes with nijis and stars get more upvotes than fucking 3d lives or birthdays for the main branch

>> No.17708327

>>17708151
Wtf is that insane ratio
1:4 is quite impressive, how is it compared to the BTS's first 24 hours ratio?

>> No.17708338

>>17707766
Laplus' kamippoi got better views than shion by a long shot

>> No.17708374

didn't even realize aqua had already started, she's at 15k and growing

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>>17708327
Gura power

>> No.17708405

>>17708338

>comparing shion to gura-calli

>> No.17708424

>>17701533
Yes, they will. If KR, ID and IN were part of it in 2021, I don't see why that wouldn't happen for EN members.

>> No.17708440

>>17708327
I'm going to go off on a limb and say it's not 1:4 LMAO.
There's a shitton of views that are still processing.
I'm guessing it's at least 600k views already.

>how is it compared to the BTS's first 24 hours ratio?
Completely incomparable.
BTS gets so many views in the first 24 hours that even when they're verifying views, it updates by 100k+ at a time.

>> No.17708449

>>17708310
Please stop huffing your own farts

>> No.17708473

>>17708151
Why do holoEN fans do some many likes? This is wild.

>> No.17708513

>>17707168
Nope. Would be great if the EN Holos promoted JP stuff though. Kiara is the only one that's decent about it.

>> No.17708546

The sad thing is My Song has better animation and depending on who you ask, is a better song too but it's not doing as well as Q currently does in its first day.

>> No.17708547

>>17707644
It's over.
This shit is never getting fixed unless Cover or one of the HoloEn girls publicly puts TeamYoutube on blast for this (which they won't).

>> No.17708560

>>17702879
>>17702141
Anon, this isn't picked by HoloJP. Nijisanji already had Nijisanji ID which is exactly like that. Even Elira mentioned in her first months that she was inspired by how ID worked and wanted a group of ffriends hat were in call and had impromptu collabs.

>> No.17708568

>>17708253
Yeah and I think this one is easily going to be in the 600-700k range too.
Watame's shorts are doing in the best in Hololive rn (Marine's clips aren't shorts and Fubuki stopped making shorts).
It's an area that even the big shots haven't figured out yet (Kuzuha's new shorts haven't been getting 100k)

>>17708310
retard

>> No.17708586

>>17707673
Retard.

>> No.17708598

>>17708449
Well that anon was kinda right, the sub is like a tourist spot, remember that kino Polka live, yeah barely any discussion. Some time i wonder if the old fan over there just move to /here/.

>> No.17708600

>>17708568
why does it matter whether they're shorts or not? If they're like anything else google does they'll probably be discontinued in like 2 years.

>> No.17708628

>>17708513
Now that you mentioned it, yeah. I'm struggling to think if there's any ENs remotely giving a shit about JP holos' orisongs.

>> No.17708682

>>17708600
shorts have different monetization and algo

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>>17708449
fuck you

>> No.17708735

>>17708708
you know those are pinned topics right?

>> No.17708765

>>17708310
People are fucking retarded in general and will miss anything that isn't a hammer to the dick. It only takes a minute to do and even with the shit priorities there it will push more people to it.

>> No.17708779

>>17708735
that somehow makes their finger fall off or something? fuck you

>> No.17708788

>>17708310
>Easy EOP sub farming
Any previous Holo that had mainly JP viewers inclined after they shilled on there. It's easy for them to get put to the top of reddit unlike twitter who mainly just circulate on Japan

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>>17708513
>>17708628
There's a few more examples, but I don't want to scroll through months to find a retweet.
Watame is one of the most EN friendly JPs tho, so no one in EN is retweeting Botan's orisong unfortunately.

>> No.17708828

Q's at 400k now, at hours and a bit.

>> No.17708830

How do pawtners handle 6+ hour streams?

>> No.17708841

>>17708708
Well the same for twitter tho, you can't expect a event announcement to get high engagement

>> No.17708839

>>17708779
Kind of. Listen, I don't like that bullshit getting more upvotes over official content BUUUUUUT the whole point of upvoting is to push that thread to the top. A pinned thread doesn't need to be pushed to the top since its already pinned at the top.

>> No.17708852

>>17708779
that means it doesn't get pushed to the front page or anywhere outside of the sub. Pinned threads always always get lower engagement because they only show up for the people who actively browse the sub, and they are normally used to put up rules updates and the like.

>> No.17708856

>>17708797
Surprisingly even fucking Mumei retweeted that song. Granted it wasn't until My song was almost at 1 million views, but still.

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17708862

holy shit, Aqua just started and she won her first game. she's red hot right now both in-game and numbers

>> No.17708898

Aqua got Champion in the first match and reached Diamond 1

>> No.17708901

>>17708600
Shorts are youtube's attempt to copy tiktoks.
It's pushed through a different algorithm and has a bigger chance of going viral.
Unfortunately, they pay like shit.

>> No.17708930

>>17708898
500 pts to go!!! Let's go onyon!!!!

>> No.17708948

>>17708856
Yeah I was looking for Mumei's retweet and I couldn't find it for some reason so I gave up and just went with Fauna's lol
I'm sure there's more examples (Ame used to retweet JP stuff quite often)

>> No.17709009

>>17708708
>malding that memes get more upvotes than announcements
That's just reddit. Don't go on any meme sub, the upvotes on top posts might melt your brain.

>> No.17709013

>>17708839
>>17708841
>>17708852
yeah dude, that's why shien's outfit post currently has more upvotes than polka's birthday and the pinned thread for the holostars reddit account got 15k in a day

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>>17709013
>shilling on reddit doesn't work
Sure thing buddy

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>>17709090

>> No.17709339

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1489455623154835460
Get ready for another phony

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