I still don't understand why I should be mad at Mori

[Anonymous No.]

And everytime (you) explain it to me, I still don't understand why I, personally, am supposed to be angry. (And no, I'm not a deadbeat, but I am a Unityfag.)
>She's friends with the Trash Taste guys
Okay
>Connor said mean things about Hololive!
He said talents in Hololive get easy exposure. No shit, how many times have one of them hit 200k subs before debut? How many times has some mediocre Holo song hit 1 million in a few days, while equally good if not better music from other vtubers don't even get half that in weeks. Vtubing isn't a meritocracy, simple as. Not saying the girls who make it into HL don't deserve it, nah obviously they worked hard to get there, but once you get there don't pretend it isn't smooth sailing. (I mean for fucks sake, vtubing/streaming as a whole is an easy bag once you've made it - imagine making more in a week than some people make in a year, all just for playing video games ffs).
>She redirected supachat money to Connor!
Yeah she trolled the trolls, feel free to cope and seethe. Objectively funnier than even Ame's "thanks for the feedback lol" moment.
>She responded to a days old bait tweet!
I'll break even on this one: I liked her idea, but not her execution. I thought her fans/antis/whoever crying and concern trolling about it were more retarded, though. "Muh professionalism" lol shut the fuck up.
>She does drugs and drinks alcohol!!!!!
The rapper does drugs wow okay lmao
>She has a Twitch account!
Okay
>She mentioned collabing with Ironmouse in her podcast with Irys and Rat!
Ironmouse is cool, and if you disagree I'll rape you.
>She hates hololive, her genmates, and her fans!
Nah, she probably hates (you) though.

How'd I do? Did I cover everything? Point is, there's memeable moments from this stale drama (the lean mixup was hilarious) but I don't see anything to get mad about. I'm cool with having a laugh, even at Mori's suspense, as no one's too big to be the butt of a joke. But if you're still THIS MAD about what ultimately amounts to a total nothing burger, then (you) are the joke..

[Anonymous No.]

I applaud your attempt at sanity and a level examination of the circumstances, but I suspect you're not going to get anywhere.

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Lmao, imagine forming your opinion on what /vt/ tell you. Imagine dragon.

Sage

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>>17934416
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND
PINK WOMAN BAD
SHE HATES HOLOLIVE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>17934416

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>>17934416
Please stop posting here and stop defending Mori, Kiara. You dont need to defend her anymore. I mean, why are you defending her in the first place? Didnt she ignore you for almost a year and never gave a fuck about you? Please let go and just enjoy your ski trip, okay? Love ya

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>>17934416
I don't even hate her for the Connor shit, I hate her for always sounding bored to death in her collabs and never putting any effort into communicating with her genmates. I also hate how she talks to her viewers like children to hide the fact that she's bored to death and doesn't care. Like Coco wisely said during their collab, she sounds like a druggie.

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>>17934543
imagine dragon my nuts on your face lmao

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>>17934416
The only thing I was mad about is when she used to be awful in collabs with Kiawa. She's fine now.

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Imagine trying to post seriously here lol
You should not try to understand people here anon. This is a place to look at all the wild retarded monkeys and laugh at then because you have a much better life than these faggots

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>>17934416
>He said talents in Hololive get easy exposure. No shit, how many times have one of them hit 200k subs before debut?
First of all that's not the first time him or his ilk shit on hololive, that's just the most famous instance. There's that fucking video where the other retard shits on Nene because muh feminism and that video where ironmouse of all people tells Connor to shut the fuck up after he's running his mouth again and shitting on hololive. But the statement you're defending is retarded too and let me tell you why. Before gen 3 launched most of hololive were fucking 2 views to 100 views tops. They didn't explode in popularity until then. So every gen up to 4 gen worked their ass off to get where they are. Even so, if you graph out growth you can tell that 4th gen launching ALSO got everyone a significant uptick in subs and viewers (probably because of Coco). That means that the only 2 gens at the time he said this that this applied to was gen 5 and EN. This makes it super funny because I bet that faggot can't name a single gen 5 member, which means he was directly shittalking Mori and her colleagues. Mori is letting him insult her to her face and she's pathetic for it.
>Yeah she trolled the trolls, feel free to cope and seethe. Objectively funnier than even Ame's "thanks for the feedback lol" moment.
The donation that caused her to say she'd donate to Connor was the one from a member politely asking her to stop mentioning him onstream because of his constant shitting on hololive. She then donated the full amount to connor. This is where she fucked up. It means she not only donated her share of the superchat, but also cover's share, google's share and the taxman's share. This is what makes the "condom money for connor" superchat genius. If she actually went through with this she'd be trolling herself and bleeding money, she probably realized this when that superchat happened and had to backpeddle. Another instance of her acting like a retard.
>She does drugs and drinks alcohol!!!!!
>The rapper does drugs wow okay lmao
Read a book about the opium wars, Asians froth at the mouth at the mere mention of any drug because of how hard Anglo opium fucked up the region. Her getting deported over mentioning drugs is not impossible if she keeps this up. Also, keep supporting her retarded day drinking. At this rate she'll die from it before she hits 40.
>She mentioned collabing with Ironmouse in her podcast with Irys and Rat!
>Ironmouse is cool, and if you disagree I'll rape you.
She worded it in such a way that they couldn't refuse. She didn't ask them, she told them. Even doing this offstream irl is considered a dick move. Don't know if you're autistic.
>She hates hololive, her genmates, and her fans!
>Nah, she probably hates (you) though.
Her own words that I can't link but everyone's heard them.

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>>17934416
what is it with cucks and defending the man? serious question. its like you guys really are closeted gay and self-insert as the woman.
you wrote a whole paragraph explaining connors though process as if you know him so extremely well and how he is actually not guilty and didnt mean what he said.
OP you are gay and im not saying that as an insult you are actually homosexual. (not straight).

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>>17934416
I think you're awful and hate you. By supporting TT over hololive, Mori is asking for more people like you, totally cowed, culture-less, morally bankrupt, and so used to eating shit that you can't tell what is good. I don't think you understand that the whole thing is an enclave against western irony. People here have gone so far away from normie shit to get here and you and Mori treat it like it's just a dumb laugh in between episodes of Rick and Morty.

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>>17934416
Her twitter haters made me incel-level racist for a bit

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>>17934416
>Ame's "thanks for the feedback lol" moment
What was this?

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>>17934416
>trolled the trolls
It doesn't work like that.
And it wasn't even a troll, she basically spent 5~7x the SC she received (counting taxes and cuts) just to spite a fan she didn't like, which I mean, kinda based, but also retarded and dumb.

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>>17934416
doesn't matter she's ugly irl and probably likes getting plowed to feel like she's beautiful

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>>17935433
Literally why post this seethe? Literally all it does is impart orgasmic pleasure on the part of those who agree with OP to see such desperate hatred.

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>>17934416
>Yeah she trolled the trolls
what kind of parallel world did you come from?

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>>17934416
>lean mixup
heh

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I wanna suck on mori’s nose and lick her nosehairs clean while i tickle her throat with my finger and she vomits lean on my mouth

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>>17934416
>>17935547
I want Mori to give me a titjob with her DD's while Kiara's MASSIVE ass sits on my face if you know what I mean ;)

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>>17935775
Hot.

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>>17935852
Kiara has a bony flat ass tho

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>>17934416
You really need to calm the fuck down and stop getting so upset over things on the Internet.

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>>17935898
Do your reps Jesus

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>>17934416
i just hate EN whores
>He said talents in Hololive get easy exposure
he didn't say this though

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>>17934416
>>She hates hololive, her genmates, and her fans!
>Nah, she probably hates (you) though.
shit you almost got me there, cuckbeat. good try though lmao

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>>17935945
I did and shes a bony ass bitch with a fake ass voice

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>>17936046
Im not gonna post anything and bite your bait but >we all know youre lying

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>>17934416
Whenever fan expectations inconvenience Mori in any way, she starts hating on her fans and whining about them trying to control her.
Which is a real riot, considering fan expectations are as tiny as "don't abuse your popularity with us to go suck e-celeb dick" and "be considerate to your co-workers" and "stream somewhat regularly".

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>>17934416
It’s funny
>He said talents in Hololive get easy exposure
That’s not what he said

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>17936046
>bony ass
blindchama...

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>>17935589
fuck it. They aren't leaving, so they might as well know that the western irony that has been beaten into them is even worse than wanting to watch a girl earnestly act like an anime character.

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>>17934416
Deadbeats trying to rewrite history again. "Easy Exposure" my ass, he was blatantly saying being Hololive is instant success and will get money that normal people will ever see in their life. Stop downplaying it.

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>>17935516
I remember this one vaguely, I recall it was something among the lines of a teamate writing a wallpost of stuff ame could do to improve her streams and she just responded with that. Shit happened like one month after Myth debuted, so faggot OP bringing it up is nothing but him coming out as a cuckbeat falseflagging as an unityfag.

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>>17935433
>By supporting TT over hololive
Your premise is based on a false dichotomy. I don’t watch TT, I do watch Hololive. I have seen a couple of their podcasts after Mori went on it and it wasn’t my thing. Even if did watch TT though, your post would still be retarded. Btw, one thing I do know about the TT guys is one of them loves incest and the other is a lolicon, so if you think they’e normies you’re wrong.
And I’m not going to waste time convincing you how wrong you are calling me normie.

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>>17936544
>he was blatantly saying being Hololive is instant success and will get money that normal people will ever see in their life
I think Sana is proof of that, anonchama.

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>>17936588
They’re all cuckbeats, running deflection.

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>>17936732
anymore to throw under the bus deflectbeat

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>>17934416
>He said talents in Hololive get easy exposure.
Stop reading there, you are already lying, you can play lawyer all you want but anyone with ears and a functional brain knows what he said, kys.

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>>17935336
>She then donated the full amount to connor.
Untrue, she told that guy to get a refund. What she passed along was the condom money supa

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https://streamable.com/eknk5y

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>>17936683
>and it wasn’t my thing.
too bad

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>>17934416
>I'm not a deadbeat
t. deadbeat

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>>17934416
The only real problem with Mori is that she hates fans that love her. It's not the fans fault that it happens, it just does, but she hates them. And that creates a ton of friction.

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>>17937306
She fell for the male streamers' narrative that everyone is a pathetic incel loser if they dare watch a female streamer.

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>>17934416
>needing a reason to hate millennial rapping texan vtuber living in Japan
You think your based OP? Defending this cringey dyke of a vtuber? Your family raised a true cuck and they deserve to be publicly shamed for it

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>>17934416
>rationalizing with schizos

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>>17936683
>I have seen a couple of their podcasts
>Btw, one thing I do know about the TT guys
Anon, I...
>Your premise is based on a false dichotomy..
Just because you read something on reddit doesn't mean you understand it. She defended TT and even lied for them after they continuously attacked Hololife. She choose the irony antis.
>one of them loves incest and the other is a lolicon, so if you think they’e normies you’re wrong.
Why don't you post a clip. You fuckers spent months trying to gaslight the Mori thread into thinking that tt didn't attack Nene.

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>>17936683
>normies
Kys tourist

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>>17934416
No one here wants to be lectured about why they're stupid, even if they are. It's way more productive to just ignore them and let them say their shit and not let it affect you, because trying to snap back isn't going to work, as much as you wish it would.

[Anonymous No.]

You're a cuck
Simple as

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>>17934416
I don't watch Calli so I don't know what the fuss is all about. Just from your post she sounds kinda shitty, Was that the point?

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>>17934416
I anti anyone who speaks positively of Connor because he's a fuckstain who should kill himself

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>>17934416
>I'm cool with having a laugh, even at Mori's suspense
ESL, opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937821
There's always an ESL on here being a dumbass, I swear.

[Anonymous No.]

cuckbeats have tried
>throwing others under the bus
>drunk excuse
>just ignore
>i'm just pretending to be retarded
>it's a nothingburger
>uhh y-you're dumb!
>please stop. i can't take it anymore
unfortunately none of them really change the fact that mori is a shitty person

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>>17936683
>one thing I do know about the TT guys is one of them loves incest and the other is a lolicon, so if you think they’e normies you’re wrong
I'm very much into lolis, but it doesn't stop me from being a normalfag who has surface level knowledge of anime. At least I'm smart enough to not proclaim I have correct opinions unlike your average ironic weeb that likely swallows all the shit coming from anitubers
If you think you had a point by saying that, I'm sorry to tell you but the only thing you did was outing yourself as a redditor

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>>17936683
Incest is the most popular category on pornhub it's an extremely normie fetish. Your fetish needs to be ovipositor or worse to escape claims of normiedom.

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>>17934416
>another stealth anti thread
just let this shit die already bruh !

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>>17934488
because he isn't doing that, he's just insisting that because he cares about nothing, noone else should. and also just going "lol umad bro" in more words.
>>17936732
>still this mad that management let her take whatever time she needed to get her head screwed back on so she wouldn't do things like flip out over people mentioning pets/pets dying/etc
take your medication already, faggot.

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>>17935336
The only part you got wrong was about the money she passed on to Connor, since the condom money for Connor superchat was the reason for it...

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>>17934416
take your meds

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>>17934416
>i don't understand why i should be mad at mori
Use a single braincell for once and get a personality. But since I'm sure you're another tourist, I'll break it down for you.
99% of what's said on this site is shitposting and not actual opinions or facts, and much less you should follow anything said here.
If you don't want to be "mad" at an inocuous internet lolcow, guess what, just ignore it.
Literally, all the defenses on Mori fall flat because her apologists do the same shit as her: not ignoring the trolls.
Or in simple, normie words you might understand better: haters gonna hate.
Get out of the circus if you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.]

I deeply dislike her because I liked her once.

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>>17934416
You don't have to be mad, but her drunk episode including multiple social media outburts stirred fuel into the fire.

[Anonymous No.]

My oshi is friends with Mori and I trust her judgement

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>>17945559
Your oshi is in an abusive relationship.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want mori to not treat her viewers/other holos as retards. and for her to not lie as much. saying you're busy is better than lying to someone's face like >>17937071

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>Called her own fanbase cucks and simps
I do not personally hate her, no, but I do feel righteous indignation for cuckbeats(the sane ones who probably jumped ship by now).
It's also funny to bait yesmen

[Anonymous No.]

I saw her roommate clips on my recommendation? What happened? Is she Kson-ing?

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>>17934416
>Connor said mean things about Hololive!
He did. I get how it could be said in the way you described, and I do think that's it, but he said it in the stupidest way possible. That people took umbrage to it was a matter of course.

After that she did *not* handle well people bitching about her taking his side.


All in all it's a minor incident that doesn't matter all that much, but she did slip there.

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>>17947797
>Implying that you're not a cuck and/or simp if you donate your money to any vtuber/streamer/etc.
She just said the truth out loud and people lost their shit over it.

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>>17934416
Mucho texto
Join us instead of seething, we have the best shitposts

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>>17936544
Anon that's literally true

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>>17934416
I don't even hate her as much as I hate her fans.
All ironic weeaboos who hate things like idols or a women being held to the basic minimum of standard (keep your work and private life seperate).

So I will always shit on her and the beta cucks that watch her.

Also TT is shit and they are some of the biggest hypocrits alive. They hate idol culture because they think it's misoginistic but promote porn and hosts. The 2 industries that are entirely build on abusing women.

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>>17948812
It was funny for like a couple days now it's just annoying

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>>17934416
Finally a based and sensible take on this whole situation that I am largely in agreement with.

[Anonymous No.]

used Vtubing as a stepping stone to promote her roommates music career and fucked e-celebs.

[Anonymous No.]

I like mori, might not like the way she conducts herself online and spergs out about retarded shit, but I still like her content

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>>17935013
>bored to death in her collabs
I don't get why people still use this as an argumente
maybe she get bored at the begening specially when she was forced by cover to do yuribaiting whit kiara, but she a lot of people to hag put and talk freely like gura , ina ,consul IrYs aven she spen more time whit JP like lui

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>>17949323
so suisei

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>>17934416
Connor was objectively correct in everything he said, in fact, you'd need to be an absolute failure like Sana or a selfdestructing dramawhore/backstabber to not have sucess in hololive(hell even said abbo is higher than liteally everyone in, say, nijiEN). I still don't want him or any stupid e-celebs directly involved with vtubers at all.

No one wants(or needs) you to be mad, anon. But everything said ITT is a justifiable reason for them to be mad if they wish to.

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>>17948993
>promote porn and hosts
???
What are you referring to? They've made one episode about hosts and they invited a guy. When did they ever promote porn? Hentai isn't real porn.

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>>17934416
>"I don't care about any of the complaints because I have no standards"
Good for you.

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>>17950315
>Be friends with porn-whores and hosts
>Promote them on their other chanels
>Visit host clubs on the other chanels
>Never criticize those industries
>Invite them on your show
How are they not promoting this shit.

The friends you keep are a reflection of who you are as a person.
Mori hangs around with bad and hypoctitical people. Guess what kind of person she is going to be.

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>>17934416
>Yeah she trolled the trolls
Oh
>get 250 supa
>youtube gets a cut
>cover gets a cut
>niggerdice spends more of her own money to "troll"
nice move indeed no

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>>17934416
Honestly OP, I completely agree with you, and im happy you've made this thread.
If I didn't come here I wouldn't even know people still cared. The tiny amount of drama that happened was really a nothingburger, and half of it was based anyway. Like, shouldn't hating hololive (I don't believe she does but for arguments sake), trolling antis, and doing drugs make her /ourgirl/? Aren't those positive traits? I don't really understand most people here. In the end, her streams are still good, she's moved on quickly, and she still works as hard as ever. I don't see anything worthy of all the fuss.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry to bother you all, but can someone give me a quick rundown on what this is all about?

I don't follow vtubers all that actively due to other things taking majority of my schedule, so I only know some surface level details, such as Calli having been on TT at least once.

Is it over a culmination of different factors or a single, big breaking point?

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>>17934416
Angry? I'm as angry at her as I am at a drunkard cashier at a gas station. So is everyone else. We just like to shitpost and you r/hololive expats are such easy targets (and Mori as it turns out?).We hate everyone and no one.

We WILL post the cuckbeat image
We WILL mention Kiara's King cover
We WILL shitpost about TT and Conner fucking Mori
You WILL make
You WILL project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952054
mori slapped kiara in front of connor & yagoo

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>>17951992
>nothingburger
it truly is an efficient buzzword to detect cuckbeats

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>>17937071
God I can't stand this cunt. She's such a fake poser bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937071
man, what a CUNT

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>>17952821
>>17952720
she sounds drugged out

[Anonymous No.]

Why Mori Calliope is the worst hololive member

>talks about alcohol nonstop to the point where it's one of the only things she sounds genuinely interested in
>applied to hololive as a joke, knowing nothing about vtubers or streaming and only because her friend Milkyqueen was applying too and showed her it, taking her spot in the process
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ?t=2397 (We Met a REAL Virtual YouTuber (ft. Mori Calliope) | Trash Taste #23) [126:25]
>used to heavily bait for superchats in her early days, interrupting collabs to thank red scs "BIG UPS AKASUPA"
>says hololive only takes up 5% of her actual time
https://youtu.be/lBkuqt-xigY (Mori Calliope 5%) [1:00]
>continuously trying to change hololive by attempting collabs with and mentioning anime youtubers and random men
>always late to collabs and never sets up properly
>according to kiara has overslept multiple collabs, causing them to be cancelled or rescheduled
>barely talked during 2 hour clubhouse 51 collab with Kiara, to the point where Kiara had to use the weather deck to get her to talk at all
>made nothing but grunts and 1-3 word replies during shadowverse collab with kiara
>straight up said "no" when kiara asked if she had seen her new MV
https://youtu.be/nvZcIGnCSrs?t=12222 (【TAKAMORI WATCH-A-LONG】SHREK 1 & 2 #HoloMyth #HololiveEnglish) [210:15]
>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"
https://streamable.com/t2985s (lol) [0:16]
>didn't properly setup for lethal league with ina, played and talked with fans while ina sat and watched
>acted like a bitch once the punishments game for puyo puyo tetris came up, refused to do any of them
>spoils outfits on twitter for first smol collab, does nothing for the jeopardy rounds and slams her keyboard for it
>blabs about alcohol before even introducing herself during a collab with Reine, an Indonesian who isn't allowed to drink
https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=342 (【Clubhouse 51】#DEADBEAKS GOLF NIGHT with Calli!!!【hololiveID 2nd gen】) [71:52]
https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=394 (【Clubhouse 51】#DEADBEAKS GOLF NIGHT with Calli!!!【hololiveID 2nd gen】) [71:52]
>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea
>makes myth wait almost half an hour in the ender dragon fight collab because she got lost looking for wood because she didn't prepare, then makes them lose diamond armor because she jumped into the void in the end
https://youtu.be/BwL9-tqLF3I?t=4641 (【MINECRAFT COLLAB】Calliope and HoloMyth's Long Awaited Ender Dragon Battle! #hololiveEnglish) [118:34]
>didn't call in for Ame's first birthday, called in at the very last minute for her second birthday sounding drunk with a shitty rap
https://youtu.be/tMwKQniur0k (Calli's sleepy rap for Ame's birthday) [1:22]
>constantly talks to her collab partners like they're mentally challenged children
>simps over Rikka on and off stream nonstop, they collab on Super Bunny Man and Mori can barely hold a convo in Japanese, forcing Rikka to use his terrible English
>completely ruins highly anticipated first EN meme review with Coco by being nothing but her "dorky rapper" character instead of making any good conversation or jokes, to the point where Coco asks "are you okay? you're acting like a crackhead" and "is she always like this?" to 75k viewers
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=2435 (REDDIT SHITPOST REVIEW with Calli) [61:28]
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=1121 (REDDIT SHITPOST REVIEW with Calli) [61:28]
>woke gura up early on a day she planned to stream, wastes everyones time because she only then learned the game they were gonna play is local only, makes them switch to ANOTHER local only game, didn't install the final proper game between the time elapsed switching previous games, then makes sleepy Gura wait another half hour only for their gameplay to be fucked by seconds long delay, then finally settling on Phasmophobia, disables comments afterwards
https://youtu.be/sbo8zS8otzQ (【PHASMOPHOBIA COLLAB】We Love To Not Be Alive. #hololiveEnglish) [76:20]
>caused 6 month anniversary Don't Starve myth collab to be delayed by 30 mins
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1370508896150818817
>fell asleep on stream during very first myth Minecraft collab
https://youtu.be/NS3_sNTwIRw?t=10427 ([MINECRAFT] HOLO EN SERVER #HololiveEnglish) [182:36]
>told Gura during a collab that someone said her "booty stank" while working at a restaurant
https://youtu.be/WhM27pQZ_2E (Calli will NEVER forget this Review from a Restaurant Customer she got) [3:12]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937071
Mori is such a stupid narcissistic bitch, makes Kiara look like a saint

[Anonymous No.]

The Trash Taste drama gets its own section, as it is the longest running problem with Mori and the sole reason this post exists

>Mori collabs with Trash Taste
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ (We Met a REAL Virtual YouTuber (ft. Mori Calliope) | Trash Taste #23) [126:25]
https://youtu.be/h5QspNrKphM (The Vtuber Rap God Returns (ft. Mori Calliope) | Trash Taste #74) [136:01]
>guy from TT, Connor, says on Ironmouse's stream that people in hololive are popular not because of their talent but because of the brand
https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4
>time passes, Mori mentions TT a significant amount the last few months
>a longtime member in Moris member stream says she shouldn't associate with them
https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults her members and lies that Connor personally apologised to every holoEN member
https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>"we speak to each other quite a bit, um, as friends", laughing nervously after
>someone asks Kiara about this, Kiara says she isn't in contact with anyone from Trash Taste
https://streamable.com/5a8uq2 (mori lies) [0:35]
>Mori then donates 50 subs to Connor on her new Twitch account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM (Calli Surprised Connor When She Gifted Him 50 Subs) [0:36]
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she won't read superchats anymore without management reading them first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM (Calli won't be Reading These Superchats Anymore 【Mori Calliope / HololiveEN】) [1:44]
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>deadbeats in her comment section are upset about all of this
>everyone moves on
>days later she suddenly replies to and compliments a 6 day old Twitter post from a dedicated anti account of an MSpaint edit of her getting fucked by Connor, while her fans watch crying, insinuating her fans are cucks
https://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>Redditors notice this and post it to the hololive subreddit
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png
>she gets downvoted and they shame her for her actions
>someone asks why she did it, she admits she's drunk
https://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg
>deletes everything, apologises on twitter, announces break but then says she's high on lean on her corporate, public twitter account, and then tries to damage control by saying she didn't know what it meant
https://web.archive.org/web/20220124193835/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>later, begins collabing with holo members again but it's painfully clear she isn't interested and is faking her enthusiasm, the entire terraria stream is an example
https://youtu.be/8ZiNmfUCEt4 (【TERRARIA】Adventuring With My Friends in a New World?!) [167:29]
>goes out of her way to put "with my FRIENDS" on her Terraria collab, and again "ft FRIENDS" in the title of Surgeon Simulator collab, when she's never done so
https://files.catbox.moe/minblk.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/u1ufzu.jpeg
>still won't stop mentioning TT
https://youtu.be/Zm_Q5yLdgas (Did Calli just Reference Trash Taste in her Podcast?) [0:37]

In conclusion, Calliope Mori is a terrible influence on hololive and should graduate immediately. She has proven time and time again that she does not care about her position as a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935013
That's just how she sounds. She's incredibly autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952930
He’s right though. They all got popular because Miko said nigga, not by grinding and hard work in hololive.

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>>17948993
>Ironic weeboos who hate things like idols
I hate 99% of anime and don't consider myself a weeb. I watch her for the same reason I watch Gurren Lagann. In every genre you hate, there will always be one or two things that manage to appeal to you. An exception to the rule.
>women being held to the basic minimum of standard (keep your work and private life seperate)
This is not a basic minimum of standard. It is perfectly fine mixing the two. I don't know where you got this from, unless you unironically enjoy idols and want to enforce your standards on them, which would not be the basic minimum.

inb4 cuckbeat post

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>>17952930
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935336
Sanest poster on this board, keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953095
> points out why his opinion is irrelevant
thatts exactly our point.

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>>17953074
So you say. My first exposure to hololive was Korone trying English tongue twisters. I didn't hear the migoyab until a few weeks later.
>>17953109
Well, it isn't like I'd expect cuckbeats to be able to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953261
Just because you don't like people who think like me does not mean my opinion is irrelevant. If you prefer to live in an echo chamber, feel free to ignore what I have to say, though. Although by living in an echo chamber, I would argue that your own opinion is irrelevant.

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>>17952897
>didn't properly setup for lethal league with ina, played and talked with fans while ina sat and watched
holy shit, I haven't seen that one before, she literally plays like 2 matches against Ina and then plays for over an hour with random people, with Ina still just there, what the fuck

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>>17953095
>It is perfectly fine mixing the two.
So basically you've never had a job.

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>>17953374
Most of my jobs didn't really have any way for me to mix work and personal life. Although in most, I casually chatted with people about what was going on with me. I used to be an entertainer myself as a job, though, and I was open about my personal life there.

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>>17952930
>Connor and Mousey were talking about lying on interviews
>Connor gives the example of Hololive as in, once you get in, you have guaranteed success, even if you're not as good as you said
>Skitzos still twist it to this day that he was dissing Hololive talent's quality.

Despite all this being known for like 6 months, skitzos will be skitzo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952054
Mori got overly sensitive and took some bait and now the JIm Cornettes of the board are incessantly pushing their cuck fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
>I am completely unable to understand my opponent's position
Low IQ

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>>17952930
Why do you expect her to read antagonistic superchats. Obviously she's not going to do that, why interrupt a nice superchat reading with some shit about condoms or some guy whining about connor, even if it's a legitimate complaint that shit has no place in a stream like that, you're making her look like some kind of villain betraying her viewer base just because she doesn't humor a few dumbasses with too much money to spend and shitty takes to spew

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953366
just neck lol

[Anonymous No.]

I think the problem is the whole drama comes from Connor’s original comment being taken way out of context. His point was still a retarded take about lying on job applications, but he may as well have said something like “you don’t have to know how you cook to say you can work as a chef on an application, and when you are started in a Michelin Star restaurant you can fake it until you make it because you’re too big to fail” to make the same dumb point.
The bigger problem is that Connor’s opinion is irrelevant. He’s just a jaded Jojo-fanboy memelord. Who cares what he thinks about vtubers, a field he himself says he doesn’t care about outside of Ironmouse.

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>>17953661
>Who cares what he thinks
/vt/, obviously. You see how much they obsess over it?

[Anonymous No.]

tldr

mori is shit and her cuckedbase is worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952054
People are upset because she's friends with the TT guys whom they see as being antis (which is total bs and it's just idolfag seething as usual), and also because she did some dumb shit while drunk and/or high on lean (that one is actually true and it was a pretty genuinely stupid moment, but at least she apologized)

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>>17953661
No, cannur's shit opinions would've remained his opinions alone if Mori didn't take it upon herself to escalate it by clearly getting upset on his behalf and trying to "own da haters" by either constantly bringing him up or trying to dab on what she thinks is the root of the problem - unicorns.
Mori taking it personally and letting her IRL relationships affect the work - and now trying to rope her coworkers into supporting her retarded revenge agenda - is the whole problem. She should shave her head and dogeza.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949603
I watched that Lui collab and both times were embarassments from Mori, she was treaten like an actual child and not in the cute way like La+ is

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949001
it will always be funny lol

cuckbeats stay cucked, the drugged out whore needs to leech off her hololive fame out to her roommate because she sucked as an individual.

[Anonymous No.]

Connor also called hololive fans sad. And said holomems laugh at them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949642
This is the reason I hate cuckbeats. They always try to drag others into the mud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17947673
>>17952720
>>17952821
>>17952918

DESU the impression i get here is just them fucking around, low energy. A bit of shittalking doesn't mean you're not friends.

[Anonymous No.]

These threads move and timeloop so fast that it's hard to get a word in edgewise nowadays, but I'll try. And let me share some background, I've been an ardent opponent of the Trash Taste crew even before they were Trash Taste, back in the old days, and through some connections I've had the pleasure of saying that to their faces, in person. And still, these Mori anti threads are some of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen on /vt/ or /jp/. I've been around the Virtual Youtuber scene since before Hololive was a thing and it always amuses me to see people act like Mori is breaking some established code of conduct in the community, while in reality this code only exists in their imaginations. Or what, are you going to discount Hololive's extensive appearances on Japanese TV and other Youtube channels, often with - gasp - men? Really, really fucking cringeworthy men like Viking Eiji Kotouge? The guy who looks like a literal faceless ojisan?

And don't get me wrong, plenty of Japanese fans dislike this too. But for the most part they don't elevate this into harassment campaigns on twitter and their channel or seethe nearly as much as the fags on this board does. Because they have a modicum of respect and understand that if you don't like the vtuber, just don't watch them. You know what you guys are acting like? The Chinks during the Coco scandal. You feel betrayed because Mori "violated" some imaginary boundary you had projected onto her, and then are too arrogant and self-absorbed to realize that. Connor sucks. Gigguk sucks. Joey, I'm actually kind of alright with. After talking to him I found we had similar manga tastes and I've come to respect him, if not his choice of entourage. But either way, I get not liking Mori collabing with TT, I think it's horribly cringe too. But you're literally stooping to the level of angry chinks here, have some self awareness.

The kicker is that I know most of those complaining aren't Mori fans feeling betrayed. Some are, but most of the truly angry people are those who are afraid of Mori's influence on the rest of HoloEN. That by collabing with TT, they might inspire others to do the same. How is this any different than the Chinese fans who hated Coco not because they watched her, but because they saw her as being a traitor to the company, going against fellow talent who they ASSUME are pro-China, and they were afraid that Coco might convince Aqua that Taiwan is a country? Newsflash, Aqua already thinks so and hates the Chinese retards, just like the rest of HoloEN have their own ideas and hate you retards too. Do you think Gura is gonna step out and praise you for "standing up" to Mori's influence? Are you really that delusional?

>>17952930
>In conclusion, Calliope Mori is a terrible influence on hololive and should graduate immediately.

How are you any different from an Anti-Coco chink?

You pretend like you have precedent but you're really just a bunch of Holobronies who bought into the fad watching clippers. This isn't the way Hololive "is", this is the way you want it to be, you're clueless newfags trying to trick even newer, even more clueless fags, because you have no outlet for your seethe.

>>17954044
He was right. Grow some thicker skin, chang.

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>>17953848
Joey is an actual anti, there's no arguing this, he even pretends to be a nijifan even though he doesn't watch any of them
Connor is a dramafag and pretending that that was the only time he was "taken out of context" means that you also don't know anything about him, he lives by doing this
Gigguk is a decent person at least but his fanbase is insufferable

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>>17953486
Are cuckbeats always this retarded?

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>>17953661
>His point was still a retarded take about lying on job applications
My rrat is that the reason Mori got so pissy about the whole situation is that she told Connor she lied on her Hololive application (which she did by her own admission). So in a way, Connor's retarded take is correct.

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>>17954231
where exactly is she shittalking or fucking around? she's literally just lying, there is no banter there, not to mention the whole collab was pathetic, because she would barely even respond

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954326
>makes something up
>says "there's no arguing this"

okay champ

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954387
The shittalking is pretending to have seen the video is a very obvious way. Making it look like you don't give a fuck. The fact that it's so obvious makes me think it's a joke.

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>>17954274
>"oldfag"
>the only example of antis he can give is coco
>pretending as if there weren't jap antis for other jps and much worse
>literally the male celebrity example that gets posted every single time
Bro, you could have tried harded, you're way too obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954042
I don't are about Mori. the board being endlessly spammed with this shit everyday is getting old

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954363
Did she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954512
Jap antis can get bad, but usually don't come to direct, directed harassment. Sometimes it's worse, but they do it in more subtle ways. Like doxxing, stalking, or something else where it's not immediately identifiable. You're not humiliating yourself in public.

>Bro, you could have tried harded, you're way too obvious
What's the point in using examples 90% of the board won't recognize? Retard.

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>>17954477
He shits on holo any time he can, says that Niji is much better as "someone who knows japanese" despite the fact that he doesn't watch niji, and made a video shitting on a holo by completely lying about what happened. If someone who shitposts here for giggles is an anti then he is an anti

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>>17934416
Personally I'm not angry at her, but I do think she's a little retarded, waifufags are super sensitive people and you gotta be cautious with handling those kinds of schizos, and while I don't want to see people go into a frenzy I do see that it was kind of inevitable, tho hey the seething is almost entirely contact to here so I don't really worry too much.

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>>17954363
I don't think that's the case. She put a whole lot of emphasis on cuckbeats not getting to tell her what to do from the beginning of her overreaction, I think she's lashing out at the perceived control unicorns are - in her head - trying to exert upon her mighty and independent self. That's why she strawmanned that first, relatively polite but retarded SC about not bringing up TT fuckbois all the time.

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>>17954583
>Jap antis can get bad, but usually don't come to direct, directed harassment.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954583
>Jap antis can get bad, but usually don't come to direct, directed harassment. Sometimes it's worse, but they do it in more subtle ways. Like doxxing, stalking, or something else where it's not immediately identifiable.
Ok this got a good laugh out of me, well done anon
>What's the point in using examples 90% of the board won't recognize? Retard.
It's obvious what you're doing, please try harder

[Anonymous No.]

Every member of hololive is taking cocks, because they are capable of talking to other human beings. I know this hard for most of you to understand. You should all be grateful for Mori, because she's not playing with your emotions and trying to make you think she doesn't. If you ever subscribe to idol culture bullshit, you are wholeheartedly a cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
The best thing about Mori's inevitable graduation is that she will take you faggots with her. That day will become a national holoholiday.

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>>17952897
honestly with some of these i can't tell if you're just taking the piss

>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea
oh no she met with someone to have tea, the audacity, absolutely unforgivable
>makes myth wait almost half an hour in the ender dragon fight collab because she got lost looking for wood because she didn't prepare, then makes them lose diamond armor because she jumped into the void in the end
oh no she made a rookie mistake in a video game because she's a rookie, burn her at the stake
>caused 6 month anniversary Don't Starve myth collab to be delayed by 30 mins
30 ENTIRE MINUTES?!?!?!?! THE HORROR
>told Gura during a collab that someone said her "booty stank" while working at a restaurant
what the fuck how DARE she talk about an anecdote from her past

you do realize how incredibly schizoid saying this shit makes you look right

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954736
>the cuckbeat lashes out as he cries

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954736
based anonchama, finally a non-shizo take on this whole thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954836
I'm not the one with twisted parasocial romantic interests, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954274
uhhh bro nice essay but I hate Mori because she literally made herself an easy target that people can get free shits and giggles from, don't fucking give me a lesson oh how to be a proper human being on this shithole dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954920
No, you are just a retard who takes shitposting seriously. Like Mori.
Wait, ARE you Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954949
Ok zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954920
Is that why you watch blacked porn so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935336
> and that video where ironmouse of all people tells Connor to shut the fuck up after he's running his mouth again and shitting on hololive.
Isn't that what OP is talking about? In that video he's just saying that Hololive gives easy exposure. Sure, the way he phrased it was in bad taste, but he didn't actually say anything that wasn't true.
Getting so angry over one slightly stupid thing someone said just sounds like ridiculous cancel culture to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954994
>>17954990
>>17954920
It'd be great if it was really shitposting, but there's plenty of genuinely angry schizos. Shitposting about Mori is a lot of fun but these walls of text, video citations, and genuinely hurt responses are depressing. Like, what the hell is wrong with these people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954990
I'm literally trying to help you, you retard. I don't even watch Mori's streams. I just weep for schizos who waste their lives thinking that these idols give a single flying fuck about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954808
Her delaying and disrespecting meeting times and such is a regular occurance, did you not see the Cuphead shit show? Why the fuck would I want to watch someone so disrespectful of their fans and friends time lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955005
I would respect if she was being honest, but after defending what he did she wen to stream with those "friends", not to say the lean bullshit, I'm not mad at her, don't really care that much,but she really is full of bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955005
Connor has too many "out of contexts " moments, it's too convenient for him

[Anonymous No.]

>>17953109
Holy cope. OP asked for reasons why he should care and got his answer. Fuck off and kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955113
>I'm literally trying to help you
>I don't even watch Mori's streams.
Holy shit my fucking sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955113
The entire reason why these threads exist is because Mori gave way too many fucks about it. She's now a prey; deal with it until it simmers down (and it will if she stops being passive aggressive about it even now).
>>17955200
If it bothers you that much, don't watch her. Don't watch any collabs either - so metrics reflect your opinion just like chicken collabing with the pink cat traitor's did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954507
....I'm pretty sure she just doesn't give a shit, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955376
Hence why I don't. I haven't watched her streams in months because she kept doing this shit. I'm just bringing it up because you're fucking delusional. If you want a Mori hugbox, she has her own general - go there. You people have the audacity to make these stupid deflection threads and then get surprised when people show up to tell you you're a fucking idiot. Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

My biggest complaint throughout all this is Antis who think it has to result in suspension or graduation. Over a tweet? Even worse is a fan of hers looks at it objectively and admits, "Yes, she handled that the wrong way." and immediately it is bombarded with demands to please guilty to every "crime" they accuse her of: She hates Hololive, she's a drunk/druggy, she's fake, she wants every Holo to collab with men, etc. Give and inch and they try to take a mile.
Because in their deluded minds everything she does is worsening anything she touches and she needs to be stopped. Ignore any evidence that kills the rrat. Just focus on the essays and list about how she is a horrible human being and hates where she is.

To everyone else (not doing the equal extreme of saying she can do no wrong) it's a small episode of her doing something dumb and there won't be any long-lasting damage. Weeks later and this still fills the catalog; if that's the worst thing going on for Mori/Hololive then things are going well.

>>17955042
Even better are the people trying to report her to Japanese police for using drugs (using a tweet as evidence), turn JP fans against her, or write emails to Cover asking that she be fired. How can one not laugh?
Mori screwed up and tripped with her stupid tweet. Antis decided to throw themselves down a staircase.
>It keeps happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955669
Oh, and who could forget all the Yung Skelly & associated acts? That shit was hilarious. Some trying to say Deadbeats did it as a false flag. Antis can't even get credit for what they want to consider their crowning achievements (until it backfires and they try to say it was never them.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955343
Except half those reasons are complete bullshit and might as well just be schizoid rrats trying to paint her in the worst light possible and jumping to conclusions

I will not defend the drunk cuckbeat twitter episode, that was embarrassing, but everything outside of that is just grasping for straws and looking for reasons to make her look as bad as possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955866
>>17955669
> reddit spacing
god, we have so many tourists here

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955376
>She's now a prey;
So this is how you rationalize yourself being obsessed over this while everyone else outside of this hellhole has more or less moved on

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955669
>i-its not that bad guys! Please let me continue to ruin the rest of hololive along with Mori, pretty please
Fuck off cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955376
>she's now a prey

No, the real prey are people who have unhealthy parasocial obsessions with mUh OShIs. Outside of this autistic schizoid cesspool, people are absolutely eating up what her roommate is putting out. She had 20000+ viewers and the vast majority were supportive. She made tens of thousands of dollars in the span of minutes just by showing her new shirts on stream. She's shedding crocodile tears all the way to the bank, and every time you act like a 'predator' you're helping her make more money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955582
and in the process of telling me i'm an idiot you use the dumbest fucking schizo arguments you could ever think up.

>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea

you make a bunch of really good points and then drop this bomb on me like dude what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956050
brb gonna buy another shirt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956050
>the real prey are people who have unhealthy parasocial obsessions with mUh OShIs
>not me though, I only bought her EP, all her merch and make sure to watch all her streams, but I don't care about connor so I'm totally not in a parasocial relationship

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955971
Sorry. Please enjoy this wall of text: My biggest complaint throughout all this is Antis who think it has to result in suspension or graduation. Over a tweet? Even worse is a fan of hers looks at it objectively and admits, "Yes, she handled that the wrong way." and immediately it is bombarded with demands to plead guilty to every "crime" they accuse her of: She hates Hololive, she's a drunk/druggy, she's fake, she wants every Holo to collab with men, etc. Give an inch and they try to take a mile. Because in their deluded minds everything she does is worsening anything she touches and she needs to be stopped. Ignore any evidence that kills the rrat. Just focus on the essays and list about how she is a horrible human being and hates where she is. To everyone else (not doing the equal extreme of saying she can do no wrong) it's a small episode of her doing something dumb and there won't be any long-lasting damage. Weeks later and this still fills the catalog; if that's the worst thing going on for Mori/Hololive then things are going well. >>17955042 Even better are the people trying to report her to Japanese police for using drugs (using a tweet as evidence), turn JP fans against her, or write emails to Cover asking that she be fired. How can one not laugh? Mori screwed up and tripped with her stupid tweet. Antis decided to throw themselves down a staircase. >It keeps happening! Also for good measure... I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER Is that more appropriate for 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956216
I don't watch streams. Poking people like you on this board entertains me far more than hololive ever would

[Anonymous No.]

>I don't watch streams
Every anti post in a nutshell. Make it a /vt/ banner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956216
>not me though, I only bought her EP, all her merch and make sure to watch all her streams, but I don't care about connor so I'm totally not in a parasocial relationship

take your pills schizo you're making things up again

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956279
(you) me next time, you fucking coward. Also I hope you realize I am legitimately a clipfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956307
(You) are a jackass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956307
>admitting to not only being a threadwatcher, but a clipfag
>thinks he is super cool 4chan hackerman over it
Once again, dopamine is a hell of a drug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956069
It's not a schizo argument. IRyS hasn't been the same after their karaoke collab where Mori got her drunk. She stopped doing her weekly singing streams after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956378
it really is. You're giving me so much of it, anon. It's so yummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956279
As I've said, the people defending this cunt or are against idols are all hypocritical, ironic weeaboos.

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that this thread is full of femoids and tourists. soon /morig/ will just gonna be a /cgl/ or lolcow thread

[Anonymous No.]

Getting rid of mental asylum was a mistake...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956397
mori raped irys after collab
new rrat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956450
Can't rape the willing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956424
No need to be so specific. You could generalize to "functioning human beings" or "people who don't take Chlorpromazine "

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956413
But she is an idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
I just think she's cringe and uninteresting and don't want to watch her, it doesn't have to be that deep

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956410
I mean this in the most unironic way: get some help. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956482
i think this goes for 90% of the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956482
please elaborate on why I need help, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935914
The irony

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956510
I would, but there's no point trying to help someone who doesn't want to be helped in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956592
I say this gently, but it sounds like you're projecting friendo

[Anonymous No.]

Thread successfully derailed, deadbeats have done it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954477
>implying Joey "I totally know japanese but can't parse a lowbrow playboy article" Bizfaggot is not an anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954791
god I hope it happens soon

anti behaviour should focus on stuff that makes it unpleasant for her to stay but really appealing for her to fuck off with the audience somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954326
>he even pretends to be a nijifan even though he doesn't watch any of them
kek yep.
Pretended he watched Kuzuha yet made claims about his viewers that he's said several times is wrong, got shit wrong about Mito, even claimed nijis don't have idol culture showing he really knows jack shit about them when both are big on idolfagging. He certainly isn't watching any of the jp ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934853
This is the funniest thing so far this year, Deadbeats literally cannot beat it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
>>17935336
this anon said it best, but one thing I will add is Mori is fed up with her fans and doesnt understand how to properly cope and or convey it without throwing a shit fit.

I can empathize with Mori to a point however, any sort of fans let alone idol fans arent always the easiest bunch to tolerate, but her way of doing so is so melodramatic and petty that it almost comes off as she wants to get fried rather than just quit for the sole purpose of feeling vindicated.
I think if Mori laid off the lean for a second and really did some reflecting she would see that shit isnt as bad as she makes it out to be, shes just incredibly insecure and I dont think she was ready for this kind of devotion and fanbase in this short of time.
In a weird way she loved the idea of fame and not the actual thing, which makes me afraid for her roomate since if she hits the same amount of fame itll only happen again and maybe this time worse. I hate to say it but she is not going to last long in any avenue if this is how she reacts to bite back, especially towards people that are her "friends".

I dont want anything bad to happen to her of course, thats still a person behind that animu woman at the end of the day, but she does need a smack across the head either metaphorically or literally from someone and hopefully her genmates can do so. If she hasnt pushed them back too far by now.
Thats just a theory~

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956951
all 3 of them are エアプ on basically every topic they touch, it's insane how broadly ignorant they are about just about everything

I have no idea why people watch them aside from people who are also too ignorant to be able to tell they have no idea what they're talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957065
>idol fans arent always the easiest bunch to tolerate

They are literally some of the most poorly adjusted human beings on this god forsaken planet

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957120
Nah that'd be twitch troons.
Big difference in an ignorant simp who thinks himself normal and some crazed idolshit who knows he isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957150
same class of people, different expressions

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957065
brobably the most sensible and realistic reply in this entire cringe thread, congrats anon youre too good for this schizo board

[Anonymous No.]

at one point mori mentions cancel culture being bullshit but it doesn't make sense when you take in the fact that she associates her self with people like the English translator for the vtuber manga she read on stream (steiner / distantvalhalla) who makes statements like cancel culture being an alt right talking point and ironmouse who joined vshojo in attempting to cancel nux taku. what also doesn't make sense is her scolding her donators but not connor for fueling the drama even further by saying that their oshi's is laughing at them (which is true but it wasn't helping anybody). what doesn't make sense about connor is him shitting on hololive but not nijisanji who he gives praise despite the fact that he barely watches any of them or never giving vshojo shit for the nux taku drama. makes connors look sus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957150
if the result is an unlikeable degenerate smoothbrain then who gives a fuck what flavour of asshole they are

[Anonymous No.]

Connor is correct in saying that once you're in Hololive you have easy success, that's true of anyone debuting post Covid 19. The convenient thing that Connor omits on purpose though is that there are 5 positions per gen and 1200+ people applying for that position. The chances of getting a position astronomically low and to get one you need to have an equally astronomical resume and interview and luck (or nepotism).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957062
Yep, it's funny when they jump out of the woodworks to defend them too.
I mean anyone whose ever been a tourist to Japan and visited areas they talk about like Akibahara could instantly tell they don't know even remotely what they're talking about.
Fanboys are also strangely insistent on them not being EOPs even though they clearly are to the point that they have trouble interacting with locals. Joey supposedly knows japanese but he goes on about the JPLT as if it matters and is very proud of his niche knowledge of obscure kanji no one actually uses anymore so I have my doubts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957065
she comes across as a real idiot for not knowing what she was getting into, she wanted fame but is terrible at dealing with it, she wanted the job at the idol company but hates the expectations that comes with, etc.

Everything she fucks up and is miserable about is her own doing and she just lashes out and blames everyone else for it, it's kinda lame. Pretty sad that she can't just learn to be more grateful for her considerable success.

[Anonymous No.]

Man... I didn't know Mori's PR team would visit /here/ of all places.

[Anonymous No.]

He is implying the liar is lying about being a good streamer. Hololive doesn't ask for "good streamers" on their application notices, simply talents who can deliver content through streaming. If he said, lie about the "talent" then maybe it would not be sperged over as much but he implies "good streamer" is the lie thus saying you don't need that to be successful once you get it. It comes across as a clear dig at whatever not being a "good streamer" is suppose to mean and implying it is the most important attribute for the applicant when it never was for hololive. So you have a hypothetical where a liar uses a lie to get into a company that isn't even looking for that lie. As an example to whatever the original point was how is it really applicable. It comes across as the typical anti idol sentiment where "they don't deserve it". Completely missing the point of idols where its about supporting the idols "dream". If you wanted to lie about getting into hololive then you would be lying about your goals and "dreams" not that you are a "good streamer" but that you want to be one.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958041
White fingers typed this.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true that she's streaming on her roommate account is that she's thinking about graduating

[Anonymous No.]

>>17948993
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
Why 70% of /vt/ hate her OP ? The're not all schizos retards there must be a reason, are tou sure you'rz not a cuc-deadbeat ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949001
>

[Anonymous No.]

>>17957065
>but one thing I will add is Mori is fed up with her fans and doesnt understand how to properly cope and or convey it without throwing a shit fit.

Meming Cuckbeats into existence was the largest self-inflicted wound ever committed by anyone in Hololive to date. Her brand is toxic now. Her "friends" can't even publicly acknowledge that the yabs because it's that bad and because even the smallest level of corporate control would restrict this. Her "fans" have been telling her here and only here of what they really see and believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935336
>which means he was directly shittalking Mori and her colleagues. Mori is letting him insult her to her face and she's pathetic for it.
I don't watch EN that much but, isn't Mori THE EN member who thinks she doesn't "deserve" to be popular and keep talking about this on streams? how is she's not mad at Connor for basically touching a wound?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956069
NTA lol. Or maybe you misquoted? Either way, dumb as hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958597
pftttt oh no no no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwmn3X4ulfU

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954507
anon you can't be this naive...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958816
You need to post the non cringe one

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937071
CUNT

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954583
Bitch, did you miss aloe antis calling her house and harassing her? Or lulu getting stalked? Are you fucking serious right now? They made a whole god damn episode about the psychotic lengths antis go to in aggretsuko, inject some lithium holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958859
The one were they realized even their "best" vocalist was terrible so they resorted to using a TTS? Nope. Their true nature was revealed and preserved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958836
is the disbelief in your interpretation triggering you?

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive would be better off without the fat stupid cow known as Calliope Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958957
>they
who's they, schizobeat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959055
The idiots spamming the catalog and every thread with PINK WOMAN BAD. The end result of their epic diss track shows either all of them but one SEAfag were too chicken shit to record it, or that one SEAfag was the best take they got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954583
Absolut retard is not even trying at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954274
>Connor sucks. Gigguk sucks. Joey, I'm actually kind of alright with.
Stopped reading there. You obviously has no basis for any of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959114
you seem quite flustered, you should take it easy man

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956450
>>17956461
This would explain the clashes between Kiara x Irys and why Kiara is so distant from Mori
>>17958957
>>17959114
You realize this isn't a nigger interest board, right? Don't expect a lot of good rap here, not that one needs to be /good/ to own Mori. The use who did the TTS did that on a whim and doesn't even like rap.

Also don't diss TTS, I bet you learned about the moonman shit from tertiaries

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959114
ah yes everyone who criticizes a vtuber is an indog
>all of them but one SEAfag were too chicken shit to record it
that’s because deadbeats are scary af no cap

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
You're far too sensible for this shithole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959226
>clashes between Kiara x Irys
qrd please

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954274
I hate Mori because she's a literal grifter and has 0 respect for her work environment, her coworkers and her fans. Trash Taste is just the cherry on top of the cake of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958921
>You don't believe me, do you?
>I don't
Holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959226
TTS matthew literally made the only two good diss tracks i've ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD99GKKS_KQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiD0veO3jC8

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958724
Mori has that typical white girl insecurity of 'failing on purpose' to cover up her lack of expertise. See the NYE Mario Kart tournament where she kept saying 'yeah let's get last place on purpose' and did that. They'd rather fail then put themselves out there. The funny part is that Mario Kart is a party game, it doesn't matter whose in first or last.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
I KNEEL
I SQEUAL
MY OSHI'S HEADCANON ISN'T REAL.

I COPE
I MOPE
I WILL NEVER SHOWER OR USE SOAP.

I SEETHE
SHE'S RENT FREE
WITH A WOMAN, I WILL NEVER BE.

I'M A SLOB
I CAN'T GET A JOB
MY DICK LENGTH MAKES ME SOB.

I DON'T HAVE ANY WIT
MY MUSIC TASTE IS SHIT
IN A TRASH BIN, I AM MOST BEFIT.

MY SUPERCHATS AREN'T READ
I'M FUCKED IN THE HEAD
I'M A SCHIZO WHO SHITS UP EVERY /VT/ THREAD.

HER PINK HAIR I ADORE
HER SUCCESS MAKES ME ROAR
HER OUTSIDE COLLABS MAKE ME SHOUT "ENCORE!".

MY PUSSY IS A PIECE OF MEAT
MY SOCIAL SKILLS? I'M A NEET
ALTOGETHER I AM... A KEKBEAT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959876
>HER PINK HAIR I ADORE
>HER SUCCESS MAKES ME ROAR
>HER OUTSIDE COLLABS MAKE ME SHOUT "ENCORE!".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935013
*crackhead
which was the funniest shit to come out from anything Mori related until then

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935336
>Her own words that I can't link but everyone's heard them
roommate? I don't really think she said anything even related to her work during that stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937821
>gaslight the Mori thread into thinking that tt didn't attack Nene.
? I watched that video when it came out, what was the "attack"? He was just confused about a playboy equivalent magazine putting a virtual character in their list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937071
hahaha glad to find this making a comeback

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
Omg they're so cute together! Thank you for sharing!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937071
Give me ONE
just ONE clip
of ANY JP HOLO
LYING THIS BLATANTLY
TO ONE OF THEIR FUCKING COLLEAGUES

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960599
I always thought they were joking

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951992
>shouldn't hating hololive (I don't believe she does but for arguments sake), trolling antis, and doing drugs make her /ourgirl/?
you are a a dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>17949001
of course it would annoy deadbeats, why do you think we keep posting it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17955277
I'm kinda amused how most holofags, mostly from reddit, tend to overlook his even shittier statements before the "you don't need talent to join Hololive" shit or maybe they just completely forgot about it, idk. It's like Connor punching you in the face because he hates your looks but you're completely fine with it because he had a change of heart after that. The guy is just a complete douchebag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935852
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>17959876
Wow. Copying a Deadbeat. How low can you get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960502
The magazine article was about influencers, Playboy JP is a women's magazine and it's not the first and last time a character appears on playboy, he didn't mention any of these because it would have destroyed his imaginary argument and he took advantage that none of his viewers could even access the magazine or read japanese anyways. Plus he DID attack her, he said that Nene's treatment of her fanbase is creepy and manipulative

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
female

[Anonymous No.]

>>17952054
> Connor is an asshole and throws around shit takes like a drunk throwing beer bottles.
> One of these involved VERY PUBLICALLY implying that hololive members don't have talent and cruise through based on their brand power.
> His collab partner (Ironmouse) tried to stop him but he kept digging the grave further.
> Some of her fans do not like this insult, and send superchats to Mori addressing it and telling her not to talk about him much on stream (which she was doing after the podcast).

Point 1 where she should've stopped - Ignore people who want to tell you how to act. It's that simple.

> Mori lies about the dude having apologized to everyone in HoloEN. The savvier fans think she's probably trying to cover for him, but are willing to live with it - until Kiara blows a hole through the story saying she's never talked to Connor.
> And of course, some of her fans are not happy about a "private" apology to a public insult.

Point 2 where she should've stopped. Ignore all further mentions of the dude, let it die down.
But no, she wanted to "own" her antis.

> More superchats telling her to please stop talking about Connor.
> Says that she will not read any superchats that "anti" her friends and instead donate that money to them directly (and actually does so on the next Connor stream).
> One smart dude sends a superchat saying "condom money for Connor" which makes it kinda hard for her to do what she wants without appearing as a Cuck.

Point 3 where she should've stopped. Again, just ignore the dude, don't read the superchat - and go on with the Stream.

> Directly addresses "condom money" guy and says she won't be reading some superchats anymore.
> These instances get clipped, making many MANY more normal EOPs curious about what's happening.
> Some deadbeats are now concerned their message won't be read, and don't know why. They visit /here/ and find out what's happening.

Point 4, another point where she should've stopped. It's already a small fire, but controllable.
And well... it would've died down in a few days...
But then. She just HAD to. She just HAD TO "OWN HER HATERS!". Again.

> Mori replies with her OFFICIAL TWITTER to some shitty cuck art drawn by a literal who, FIVE DAYS after he posted it.

The fire rises, and here's Point 5 where she might have stopped the spread at least.
But NO! She pours oil on the fire when it reaches reddit, says "Can't I have a bit of fun?!".

And with that, Calliope Mori becomes the very first hololive vtuber in HISTORY to get DOWNVOTED by the HOLOLIVE SUBREDDIT. She fucked up bad enough to get DOWNVOTED ! By a FUCKING HUGBOX !

And so Deadbeats forever became Cuckbeats, and Mori antis understood that they lived rent free inside her head.

> (You) are here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17936683
> I have seen a couple of their podcasts
...
>normies
We call them normalfaggots around here, ledditorchama.
>one of them loves incest and the other is a lolicon
It's called being an ironic weeb
Three strikes kekbeat, your post is completely invalidated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416

[Anonymous No.]

>>17961087
You missed a bit at the end:

> Her being downvoted by the fucking hugbox allows her to add 2 +2 together, realized she might have fucked up, goes into damage control mode
> Goes to twitter and blames it on being high on lean
> Instantly called out, she realizes that admiting to drug use is an easy ticket to deportation out of Japan. Claims to not know what lean even is, blames her behavior on drinking too much alcohol instead. It was 3 PM.

Ok so now it is a proper shitstorm, btw all of this happened JUST as her manager got sick. Still somewhat manageable...or is it?

> Goes into her roomate account and records a song about her hating that she's not allowed to punch back the haters

I think she was super wet at the idea of doing doing desu, all rapniggers do it at some point.

> Tell everyone she's taking a MONTH OFF on twitter

This is where management stepped in, and why she's doing all these collabs and why even in the mousey colab both avoided the name CONNOR like it was the Devil's own

> Revives her roomate account, orders special emotes and begins streaming there with a facecam again, faking a KSON

You are here

[Anonymous No.]

>>17951992
>In the end, her streams are still good
KEK
>She's moved on quickly
Double KEK
>she still works as hard as ever
Triple KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954274
> pretends to be an "oldfag"
> thinks people are mad because "muh male collabs"
you're not very bright are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17956450
is that why her throat has been fucked afterwards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17961906
>accuses Mori of not moving on
>literally keeps raging over the same stupid shit for over two weeks now
This is actual deflection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960646
> t-they were just joking h-haha
this just sounds like cope dude, anyone with a normal life knows that Calli was just going on autopilot with her replies, not really paying any attention.
Whether it was due to her being drunk or sleepy, we don't know. But it really doesn't look that good.

And remember, this clip was not posted for the past 4-5 months that she was actually doing her streaming + collab reps and improving her reputation.

/vt/ actually liked her for a period before this shit happened, and were willing to let bygones be bygones.
Unfortunately, she just couldn't keep her mouth shut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17961633
ah thanks, I dropped out of the drama threads around that time so I didn't realize she streamed on her roommate's channel.

Fucking christ just how retarded is this woman? Doing that is just ASKING for rrats and antis...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17962668
It clearly sounds like a joke to me, but whatever.
She still deserves to be shat on for everything else. It's weird how you keep bringing the joke King cover thing up but forget the Heart Challenger shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17962764
Heart Challenger is somewhat "eh" to me in hindsight, because it's obvious that both Kiara AND Mori were playing up the "shipping" angle to have a "thing" between them.
And it had been just two days after the song release, with Mori having no idea what it was about, so it's understandable if she missed the vide.
They were also watching a movie at the time (and she might have been drunk/sleepy.. again) which explains the distracted way she replies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934853
I agree with the other anon this is the most hilarious thing that came out of this year so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934853

[Anonymous No.]

>>17958724
Because Mori hates the vtuber and idol culture. She thinks that being virtuous is a weakness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937071
>https://streamable.com/eknk5y
Cuckbeats will defend this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960502
>confused
>"this fucks over real women and is an attack on society"

[Anonymous No.]

>>17962177
May allah have mercy on you for using Anya's beautiful eyes on this western whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17961919
It's the same stupid deflection every fucking time. It's not about the fact that Connor is a male, it's the fact that he propagated the drama to get attention on himself. He could have not replied to that stupid twitter post dredging up 3 month old shit and this would have ended. But it's better that he does respond to it because he gets more eyes on him from the drama.
Then, Mori has zero tact with one of her long-time members who SC's her often to propagate the drama even further. She takes it to the next level and instigates further drama by 'owning the haters', pushing people to come attack her because everyone knows she'll bite. She's inviting drama in from the outside. That is what Connor represents in this scenario, and people just don't want that shit.
Vtuber groups like Hololive are pretty insular, except for the occasional sponsored stream or 3d collab. That means when drama happens, it comes from within the sphere and stays in the sphere. One of the biggest reasons I personally like to watch Hololive is because it is cut off from the generic streamer shtick and the girls don't look to stir shit up on twitter to get more views. Niji is pretty similar in that regard too. I don't need this to become the norm, which Mori shows she wants it to by doing what she did. Kiara got spammed with cat gore, harassed on twitter for more than half a year by antis, got people shitting up her chat, but she managed to hold back and not feed into it. Ina got harassed and shit on for her statement about her fans and she handled her situation with a lot more tact. Ame's debut drama was handled quietly and taken care of to the point half this board probably forgot. And in every one of those instances, it was an insular event. Yet here we have Mori throwing fits and doing some real stupid shit with her corporate account to 'own the haters' because she wants to 'protect' her friendship with a guy who is stirring the pot and making issues for her. It makes it awkward for her coworkers because now they have people asking questions or making comments in their chats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17962764
Because with the king shit she's obviously lying, while with the heart challenger moment she at least told the truth even if she ended up looking like a cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>17965099
It was a tweet. She apologized with another tweet. It's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17965147
That tweet was the last thing in a line of stupid things she did over the course of those 4 days. She did so many things to both feed into the drama and to continue to push it forward. It culminated in her making that joke, which actually pissed off some of her fans, all the way to the point that when she made a post on reddit saying 'It was just a joke' she got blasted with downvotes. I hope you realize that you have to do some really dumb shit to get blasted like that on reddit in your own subreddit where you're basically worshipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17965147
Cuckbeats WISH it was just a tweet.
she had sooo many outs from the drama and she kicked literally ALL of them away >>17961087
Almost as if she WANTED the drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17938667
Hey he's just like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>17950877
Maybe apply that reasoning to yourself for once lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
She said that Connor apologized to her and the other holos, meaning his statements were insulting to some degree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
>"Muh professionalism" lol shut the fuck up.
Good job invalidating your entire post you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>17965748
That apology to other holos was confirmed to be a lie by Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17935336
>Her own words that I can't link but everyone's heard them.
come on, give us a qrd at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>17954274
Chinks hates Coco because of the CCP, I hate Mori because she's a western whore ironic weeb.
We're not the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17934416
A superchat by a member said "I wish you wouldn't associate with Connor so much, he said some bad things about Hololive and it kinda makes it seem like you might agree with him"

This led to Mori telling the guy to "refund his SC, quit his membership, fuck off", then send Connor a big SC, then tell people that further money sent to her like this will also be sent to Connor, then she liked a comic depicting Connor fucking her doggystyle while a crying deadbeat lays on the floor next to them. Then she talked about lean only to later claim she doesn't know what it is. Then she went on Reddit to post "Please let me just have some fun, PLEASE!" while crying.

Nothing else needs to be said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17965863
Maybe but the fact that Mori thought it necessary to say Connor apologized means she does think Connor said something bad. Lot of defenders say Connor didn't do anything bad but evidently Mori thinks otherwise. So by defending Connor, they look like cocksucking schizos who care about Connor more than Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>17960130
It's amazing how that throwaway comment made such a comeback during this shitshow kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937925
Hi, tourists here
What are you going to do about it?
Fucking nothing that's what

[Anonymous No.]

>>17961633
>I think she was super wet at the idea of doing doing desu, all rapniggers do it at some point.
She's a uber wannabe rapper, when you start to listen to rap music and start to read their lyrics you realize that her entire musical career has been a larp. Like the songs in which she calls out her so called "former firends" that left her because they say she sold out is literally a common lyrical subject to rappers.
I'm pretty sure nobody close to her ever called her a soldout, and she is simply living her chuuni wigger fantasies kek.

[Anonymous No.]

y'all are so fucking retarded lol
mori isn't a villain nor is she a traitor or anything like that, she's just really fucking autistic and unable to cope with negativity without getting super defensive. also she gets drunk and does dumb shit sometimes.
which, y'know, im not excusing that, all of those things are grounds for valid criticism, but it's just so fucking pathetic the way all you schizos see these things as malice on her part and see her as some kind of fucking corrupting force within hololive, when they're much easier explained simply by incompetence

t. not a deadbrap

[Anonymous No.]

>>17937306
>>17937607
mori is the only real streamer for hating parasocial weirdos, everyone hates parasocial weirdos but embrace them for money except mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>17966456
I would apply Hanlon's Razor to this situation too, but her defending that Connor guy with her last breath and complaining about Hololive doesn't really help the argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17939204
>>17961127
Reminder, most JP vtubers are fans of normie content and they share and laugh at normie content, not to mention they most likely hate people like us here in 4chan considering jp has other forums similar to this that garnered toxicity towards them
So yeah your oshi probably hates you and would likely go to reddit and laugh at the simplest things
>inb4 keep coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>17966456
>y'all
>y'know

[Anonymous No.]

>>17966582
>us

[Anonymous No.]

>>17966582
But what happens when your Oshi goes to reddit to laugh, but reddit laughs at her and people shit on her? In the subreddit dedicated to her and her coworkers? What does that say about your Oshi and the fans perspective on things she's done?

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>>17966734
It's the evil incels from 4Chans who invaded plebbit, obviously. Mori needs to buy curtains and a dog because the Internet Hate Machine is running at full speed. And it's an exploding van too.

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>>17966456
How many still have to tell her that these "friends" outside of Hololive are mainly using her for a advertising platform? At what point will she understand that the second she leaves Hololive, that they will dump her and move on? Yes she is incompetent, but she also doesn't listen to the people that try to help her the most.

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>>17966734
It means you need to fucking log off for a day or two and realize you're having a moral panic over fucking reddit.

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>>17966456
I'm more angry at the fact nothing is being done
We supposedly have all of this evidence that says mori is a horrible person that doesn't deserve being hololive and the most we've done is literally just shitposts her on Twitter about cucking
Not only did that became a one thing moment that ONLY /vt/ talks about, it also deflected the original problem that should've been addressed about connor talking bad about hololive
It's not about whether he was right or wrong, it's about what girls thought and if they knew the correct answer
Now you idiots instead shifted the talk of do the hololive girls actually lie or can they lie about their application to "look at the incels seething over there at 4chan"

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>>17966878
It's because nothing can be done about it.

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>>17966803
I honestly hope that whenever she does get tired of/can't do the Hololive stuff anymore, she doesn't get completely fucked by them because NUMBERS NOT BEEG, and I say this as someone who's been shitting on her for the stupid shit she's done. I don't want to see her fail, but I will call stupid shit stupid.

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>>17966835
Awww, don't like when the 'normies' you cited over at reddit also weren't the biggest fan of her actions?

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>>17966393
>I'm pretty sure nobody close to her ever called her a soldout, and she is simply living her chuuni wigger fantasies kek.
I'm not so sure about that. Struggling artist types tend to get assblasted when somebody in their friend circle finds success. It's a common trope because it actually happens a lot. Mori's longing for the days she spent drinking and hanging out with her artist friends seems pretty genuine. Now she just drinks.

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>>17966582
>us
>normie
>EOP but still talks about JP shit as if he knows anything about it
Holy cope
>>17966456
>y'all
>'know
KEK
>t. not a deadbrap
Yeah, you're a shoot simp kek

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>>17934853
This

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>>17966878
NYPA. I'm only here to laugh at her, cuckbeats and holoEN being shit in general. What would you even want anon to do? Break the containment and act like bugs?

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>>17966734
Better question, what if the roles were shifted to korone or rushia or suisei
What would this fucking board do?
Would they stick to their guns and meme endless about it, or would we actually deny it and unironically do the "it's fine when JP does it"?
And don't give me "cuckbeats deflection" because that ironically is a form of deflecting response

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>>17966977
Yeah... sure. If that is what you believe that is happening, than surely that is the case. Clearly nothing will convince you otherwise at this point.

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>>17967091
YES, FUCKING DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING WORTHWHILE

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>>17967029
Prove me wrong, then
Prove me that the holomem would love it here and not be infuriated or hurt by us

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>>17966066
How has nobody figured that out?

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>>17967093
You wouldn't see much of it because most of the fans are EOP and consume those women through clips. I can't tell you how people would react if someone on the JP side had done extremely similar things because the language barrier makes it a lot hard to know exactly whats happening.
>>17967097
You're the one who brought up reddit to try and say the normies were fine with it and laughed with her, not at her.

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>>17967209
You're the one who made the claim Copebeat. Next time try to not talk about things you know nothing about it.

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>>17954808
First and last were schizo, yes. But what about the rest that could've been avoided with a few questions asked, common sense or even just preparing before the stream? It was a half anniversary man, not preparing for that is just retarded and lazy

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>>17967323
So you can't prove it, is that it?

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>>17967298
...at this point I'm convinced the only way you can have something resembling a normal conversation is to have post IDs enabled because holy fucking shit I think we're literally gaslighting ourselves.

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>>17967093
They wouldn't even do that stupid thing in the first place

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>>17967485
Honestly same, I liked this place a few months ago because you could have decent conversation even with schizos running around
Now you make an argument about something and you get called cuckbeat or EOP regardless if you're fan of other vtubers

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>>17967546
That's one of the other main points people usually try to make. Mori was shit with her PR, no one else has ever been that shit with their PR in the company. Her inability to let shit go or ignore things blew up in her face.
Does it mean she'l be graduated or that the shitposters won't get tired of shitting on her? No, but there are plenty of people who won't forget how retarded she is and given that she shut her fucking mouth about Connor finally, it seems it really did strike home and she did change.

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>>17967546
Are you certain about it? Or is it one of those cases of "JP can do no wrong"

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>>17967463
>being this dishonest
Kek do copebeats really?

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>>17967677
What part do you mean even? Fighting against antis? Some JPs would do it and haachama already did it. The problem is that the way Mori did it was completely retarded.

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>>17967783
Again can you it yes or no?
Because just shouting copebeat won't do shit

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>>17967677
That anon mentioned Suisei. She's the best example of ignoring shit. Remember when she released the original song with Toko and enstarfags started bitching because it was similar to an Ensemble Stars song? Remember the consequences it had? Me neither because she simply went silent a few days on Twitter and came back as if nothing happened. The enstarfags literally did nothing to her because she didn't gave them the attention they wanted

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>>17967945
The retarded part, if they did fought or reacted to bait the same way calli did

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>>17967947
>copebeat doesn't have reading comprehension
cmon this is embarrassing

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>>17967677
> EN whore fucks up
> i-imagine if the JPs did it
I fucking hate what cuckbeats have brought upon this once-comfy realm

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>>17968055
I hate how they act as if every japanese women thinks and acts exactly like your average western whore

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>>17968006
kek the funny part is, Haachama is the one that did what Calli's image indicates she should be doing - rap battle against haters and burn them with rhymes.

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>>17967209
many chuubas are confirmed /here/fags anon, because despite being 90% shitposting this is the only place that will give them completely uncensored feedback which is the rarest resource in the entertainment industry.

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>>17937071
The kiara hate threads have been here since before the calli hate threads for a reason.

Calli has been shitting on Kiara since the start. Calli has always been awkward and a little plain as opposed to her tough character. From the beginning Calli had dubbed Kiara as kusatori meaning "shit bird." Kiara has been shitting on everyone else but gets fucked by Calli. Kiara used an I love you act as a defense mechanism. They end up having a stupid person and dumb person chemistry in their growing interactions since Kiara is able to confront more only through the guise of teasing affection. Mori and Kiara are friends but they never have been. They end up making more streams together. Kiara questions Mori about why she is so mean behind the title of friendship. Calli cant see that Kiara sucks and gets guilted over. Calli and Kiara split and even Kiara notices her monotony.

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>>17969583
What's your first language? Because it sure as hell isn't English.

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Please OP, don’t try to correct them. Their anger just gives her more attention and it has pushed her into doing more content. True Mori fans see this as a win-win.

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>>17962737
Orange Woman also did that, rrat is other Orange Woman told her it was a good idea, but all she did was eat.

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>makes a long ass roommate stream full of her happily interacting with fans and explaining why both she and them need to keep some distance from each other to manage the parasocial relationship
>people still say she hates her fans or think they’re cucks

You can hate some people without hating humanity. You can hate some “fans” without hating your fans. Simple as.

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>>17952897
ESL poster please, your knowledge of English slang and communication norms is worse than Calli and she is autistic.

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No you don’t understand if we keep posting memes then Gura will announce on stream that she’s hired a Canadian-Chinese hitman to gun down Calli and Connor in their love hotel room and as a show of thanks is creating a separate chat window just for /vt/.