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so can >we all agree JP and EN GFE both exist and are the same quality now? or do you wish to live in delusion for longer?

>> No.18095618

Lamy still stands and Chloe will replace Rushia. Sorry cuckbeat

>> No.18095687

this is your 35th rushia thread today

>> No.18095962

>>18095618
This, basically Lamy will take a giant fucking windfall and she isn't remotely as fucking stupid as rushier so probably can eke it out as long as she feels like until she graduates years from now. Ramy was careful as fuck from the getgo, literally remodeled her room to be soundproofed before beginning.

I do wonder what'll happen to rushia however, as the scale of what she's done can basically be considered defrauding her audience as she actively groomed them into the role through her mega-tryhard tactics. If Cover was to ever want to prove itself as taking any of its "idol" angles seriously, a real idol agency would graduate Rushia immediately, no fucking joke, no bullshit. I don't expect them to do that, but it'd be quite a gesture if they did. I suspect Rushia either will try very hard to go full denial and probably finally address/explain this shit to attempt to dispel it, or, she will just go mostly inactive in shame if not get suspended for a while as damage control from Cover.

The thing is, if Rushia persists on, how can she possibly do the GFE stuff still? I can't imagine her doing it with a straight face and hoping the audience just forgets about this shit. It would take an utter fucking miracle/tactical genius level manuever to save her reputation from this point and she ain't fucking smart/tactful enough to come up with something like that at all. Maybe management is and will try but the easy thing to do would be for Cover to just let her wither on the vine.

>> No.18095970

>>18095687
fancuck deflection

>> No.18096036

>>18095552
>or do you wish to live in delusion for longer?
This one. My oshi has yet to fall.

>> No.18096106

>>18095552
Rushia is a much better actress than most ENs who try to pull off GFE. No, they are not the same quality.

>> No.18096265

>>18095962
She’s made enough money, she should just get graduated. Would help hololive’s reputation and keep the other girls more in line.
It is useful here because, as you said Rushia was hyper focused on gfe so it isn’t like she can truly ever recover so firing her wouldn’t be a major loss for the future.

>> No.18097937

>>18095552
EN garbage will always be a low quality imitation of the original japanese concept when it comes to vtubers no matter what they're doing.

>> No.18100369

.

>> No.18101007

>>18096265
*would* it help Hololive's reputation, though?
it might demoralize some of the members. (this yab might do that anyway.)

>> No.18101240

>>18101007
Why would this demoralize anyone? It's all her own fault.

>> No.18101374

>>18095552
I'm confused, wasn't there already footage online of Rushia IRL doing an awkward striptease?

>> No.18101866

>>18095962
>I do wonder what'll happen to rushia however, as the scale of what she's done can basically be considered defrauding her audience as she actively groomed them into the role through her mega-tryhard tactics.
You guys don't even *try* to maintain kayfabe. Stone Cold and Steven Williams are not the same guy. "Mi-chan" and Rushia are not the same girl. Senzawa and Gura aren't the same person. Kson and Coco aren't the same entity. This is kayfabe. Stop ruining it for yourself.

Rushia shouldn't have to retire for you weirdos to be appeased. You've become no better than the culture that drove that AKB48 girl to shave her head for being seen in public with a male.

>> No.18102061

How is this any different from knowing the seiyus and voice actors in the anime you watch, also have sex lives? Rushia is Rushia.

>> No.18102122

>>18101866
>"Mi-chan" and Rushia are not the same girl.
She plays the same role on both accounts, newfag. She constantly complains about seeing riajuus when she goes outside and days she's lonely and has no friends.

>> No.18102205

>>18097937
You will never be Japanese

>> No.18102295

>>18102205
Go watch your netflix anime, chad.

>> No.18102411

>>18095962
Lmao
When will they learn?

>> No.18102420

>>18102122
But if knowing "Mi-chan" is a sex-haver ruins "Rushia" for you, then just separate the two in your mind. "That's not canon to me." Vtubers aren't any different from comics or video games. It's a fake one-way interaction with a fictional piece of media. You pretend that it's real, as escapism, that's the point of it, for all of us.

>> No.18102424 [DELETED] 

>>18102061
then why did it show up on my Rushia ch. Youtube Livestream???

>> No.18102663

>>18102424
Just say "Spam message on discord. I get them all the time." You need to work on your escapism if the walls come down that easily. All the holo girls are women who have real lives and probably even poop, because they have alter egos living amongst humans. but the 2D rushia is rushia. she can't have sex with anybody. that is how she can make thousands of men all feel 'engaged' to her at once. every guy knows every other guy can't sleep with her anymore than he can.

>> No.18102787

>>18102420
Why is Mi-chan receiving messages on Rushia's account? They're inseparable.

>> No.18102967

>>18102787
i mean is it up to me to come up with your cope explanation? you were perfectly happy pretending a bunch of shit before you knew this. you guys should be protecting her, not discussing how she will definitely graduate over this. that shows a real lack of faith in your oshi.

>> No.18103152

>>18102967
I never pretended, retard. I always hated her stupid fake shit. You're the one claiming they're not the same and I just told you that they are because she made it so.

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>>18102967
Fuck off, someone who panders that hard can get fucked when she messes up this big and it is all her dumbass fault for not keeping shit seperate.

>> No.18103301

>>18095962
I don't think she would but I think vtubing could die if Lamy fucks up at this point.

>> No.18103494

>>18102295
You will never be Japanese

>> No.18103674
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>entire act is being a femcel menhera
>has been having SEGGS this whole time

Women literally cannot be incels

>> No.18103941

>>18103494
Why watch anime girl streamers when you hate japanese things so much?

>> No.18104178

>>18102205
Should have told the the ENwhores that.

>> No.18106065 [DELETED] 

rushia no...!

>> No.18107823 [DELETED] 

るしあ・・

>> No.18108187

>>18103941
You will never be japanese

>> No.18108456

>>18095552
I'm still not watching your western e-celebs, deadcuck.

>> No.18108485

>>18095552
Holobros.. Are we vshojobros now?

>> No.18108550 [DELETED] 

>>18095552
We got too cocky JP bros

>> No.18109319 [DELETED] 

>>18095552
EN > JP

>> No.18109417 [DELETED] 

>>18103152
>>18103190
jesus, kill yourselves incels

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>>18095618
And how long will they last? What happens when one of them falls in a couple years from the same reason Rushia fell, then what? You should see vtubers as entertainers, not filling in a gap in your life because sooner or later you will get burned.

>> No.18109632

>>18095618
Chloe is even faker than Rushia lmfao. I guarantee she's getting railed daily.

>> No.18109714

>>18095552
GFE is stupid and cancer.
Watch them for the entertainers they are and stop living a fantasy

>> No.18109784 [DELETED] 

>>18109714
Why are you so triggered? Normal entertainers don’t need fake anime boobs and fake loli voices to be funny

>> No.18109794

I'm fucking tired, every holo i like has a bf/husband who in some way ends up mixed with the character. I try my best to separate character from 3D whore but I can't do it anymore, this isn't for me

>> No.18110022

>>18095962
She could just be a regular streamer and still be fine. Her days of being SC queen might be over though. Might. People might just suck it up and get over it and enjoy the character still.

>> No.18110049

>>18102420
Are you giving cuckold lessons? If you don’t want to support some streamer monetarily, for any reason, you have a right not to do that. If you don’t like a streamer, you don’t have to and you don’t have to shut up about it. Do what you want Fandeads.

>> No.18110151 [DELETED] 

>>18102663
>work on your escapism
meds anon

>> No.18110222

>>18109784
People hate GFE fags for their behavior. They act superior for incomprehensible reasons, they shit up the entire board, they hurt the VTubers they claim to love. If they just stayed to themselves and acknowledged their inferiority they'd get only pity, not hatred.

>> No.18111119

GFE fags rise up! The world looks down on you enough, don’t let beta cucks on /vt/ have the last laugh.

>> No.18111447

GFECHADS

>> No.18111473

>>18095552
No, simply because they still don't know Japanese.
They can't understand.

>> No.18111518

>>18109794
Probably all of the holos have a bf or husband or someone they are pursing even if they lie about not even having friends. All you see is how well they hide it.

>> No.18111589

what is a gfe?
also, a quick rundown on the rushia scandal? her br messaged her on discord or something and everyone saw his id?

>> No.18111716

>>18095552
Stop watching YouTube channels to imagine the YouTubers being your girlfriends, you delusional morons. Just watch them to be entertained like normal people. You have nothing to do with their personal lives, you're just viewers and fans of their content.

>> No.18112009

>>18111589
GFE = girl friend experience
When a woman pretends to be your gf. In this case a vtuber, and aparently they don't even have to willingly encourage it anymore.
GFE has lead people like OP to missinterperet any female response as GFE, hence why he named EN as GFE material.
Even Fubuki, who is adamant that fans are only friends, is GFE in the eyes of GFE cucks.
I've determined that GFEbros are mentally ill masochists who love living on the edge of being cucks. The sooner their oshi reveals she takes dick, the sooner they make vtubers more enjoyable for everyone else.

>> No.18112203

>>18111716
Anon you're talking to pseudo-weebs who defend their bs by hiding behind the veil that this is part of what makes up idol culture.
Despite the fact that vtubing is a fucking joke to real idol culture.

>> No.18113784

>>18111589
>what is a gfe
go back.

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>>18095552
Long live the queen

>> No.18115136

>>18101866
dude i just watch some fun streamers that use animated avatars instead of a facecam, why would i pretend live2d.exe somehow turns you into someone else like coco was funny so when i wanted to watch more i would tune in to coco with facecam instead of avatar and that was the same thing and now i tune into again the same person but with a strange bandage boob yakuza avatar. does everyone but me have schizophrenia

>> No.18116465

>>18095552
Gotta love the yellow fever weebs who think women aren’t the same no matter where they live.

>> No.18118944

>>18095552
who cares

>> No.18118965 [DELETED] 

cuckbeats deflection

>> No.18118992

>>18103674
Except Pekora

>> No.18119015

>>18095618
heheheh

>> No.18119173

>>18095552
Remember when you tards went after Mori and called for backup from Japan, but they just called you a bunch of Gook antis instead?
Prepare to get fucked again. They don't care, get a life.

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>>18095552

>> No.18122756

>>18118555

>> No.18124180

>>18109601
>>18109714
>>18110222
When will you realize that this isn't about seeing them as your literal gf? Do you like being the third wheel?

>> No.18124904

Why are people so retarded that they fail to realize that this is not even about some incel delusions? If she did not sell her image especially based on being a single/available woman, people would not care that she was in a relationship.

>separate her avatar from herself
That's a non-argument. People don't watch the avatar itself. There's a reason there was shitstorm when they tried to replace Kizuna Ai's VA.

>> No.18125150

>>18095687
There's more threads than there are fandead on /vt/

>> No.18125291

>>18109601
Lamy isn't a retard. Chloe might fuck up but the Rushia yab is a teachable moment for the rest of Hololive.

>>18109632
Chloe is paradoxically fake but in an earnest and genuine way. It just works. And no man could stand her repulsive scent anyway.

>> No.18125452

>>18109794
Remember that disappointment/rage and better yourself so that one day you can be the cucker not the the cuckold.

>> No.18125548

>>18124904
it's still a delusion, retard

>> No.18125696

>>18125548
expecting someone to be at least close to what they present themselves to be may be very naïve but it's still not a delusion, braindead retard

>> No.18129760

>>18108187
You will never make sense

>> No.18130055

>>18124180
It is with Rushia because she does it on both accounts and asks people to trust her when they doubt her sincerity.

>> No.18130345

>>18103674
women wilt quickly

>> No.18135726

>>18095687
based

>> No.18142248

>>18118992
How's that? She seems socially adjusted. As much as one can be as a streamer.

>> No.18142657

>>18103674
>Women literally cannot be incels
So all of mafumafu fans have boyfriends and just pretend to be menhera femcels while melting down over this? Why would they do that?

>> No.18142892

>>18103674
*Attractive women

Rushia is cute, Mikeneko is cute. It's impossible for them to be incels, as they are attractive. Ugly women, like ugly men, are the incel population of the gender. If you're reading this, I'm assuming you are very ugly. What are your standards for women? Would you fuck an ugly one? If yes, congrats, you might not be an incel. If no, and it was definitely no, then you're in the trap.

>> No.18143224

>>18095962
>The thing is, if Rushia persists on, how can she possibly do the GFE stuff still?
You guys don't even realize that this is not a problem. She could keep doing her usual content, including GFE and nothing will happen. Everyone will forget the yab. This happens every time.

>> No.18143655

I think it's sad that you guys are contesting your views of what GFE "should" be against Rushia, the queen of GFE, the absolute golden standard of it, and think that somehow you're the ones in the right. If hypothetically she does have a boyfriend, then that means it's perfectly okay to have a boyfriend while doing GFE, because she has much more authority on the subject than you guys.
If you consume GFE content from this point forward you may as well be signing a waiver that says "I am fully aware that I am paying for another man's condoms and I waive all rights to complain about it." If you feel hurt or betrayed by this then know that it's your fault that you signed up for this, not hers.

>> No.18143936

>>18095962
Nigger 2 ENs had boyfriends before they were hired, cover doesn't cares about BF

>> No.18144214

>>18142892
Even average looking people can be incels. All it takes is having very poor self-perception and thinking you deserve to date models and celebrities instead of other average people.

>> No.18144997

>>18095962
exceptionally based post

>> No.18145287

>>18095962
They are not an idol agency. Why do peoole keep saying this shit when the main content is youtube streams?

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Even Rushia, the ultimate queen of GFE, has a chad bf she spends her superchat money on? Is there nothing sacred left?

>> No.18145447

>>18111716
I'd watch males on Twitch if all I wanted was entertainment.

>> No.18145767

>>18101866
>>18102061
I mean, these are normal and correct opinions in my view, but I think GFE watchers have a different train of thought. The kayfabe has to be impenetrable for them, otherwise it doesn't work

>> No.18146572

>>18142892
? she's not that attractive, unless you're referring to her mega-filtered insta photos

>> No.18146613

>>18143655
Your opinion literally doesn't matter. If people stop paying someone because they fucked up their GFE routine, that's the reality of the situation. There's nothing you can say or do that will change this.

>> No.18146670

>>18144214
Or just be unlucky with the dating pool. Believe me, you don't need to have high standards to be rejected by most women you approach.

>> No.18146723

I'm sure Rushia still thinks you look like a good Joe.

>> No.18147545

>>18101240
Other vtubers probably have boyfriends, too.

>> No.18147654

>>18147545
Other vtubers don't have a history of acting slutty towards popular streamers like Rushia does. They also didn't cultivate the same kind of fanbase with the same expectations.

>> No.18147789 [DELETED] 

>>18095552
en still have shitty voice and accent though, you will never a real vtuberJP

>> No.18150272

>>18095552
Ru-chan...

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>>18095552

>> No.18153032

>>18095618
GFE holos will never recover from this drama.

>> No.18154266

>>18143224
You forget the fujos from Mafumafu's side of the fan fence. Fandeads may roll with it, but fujoshits cultivated longer than what fandeads have will cling on like
a tick to this drama

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I don't feel so good

>> No.18159573

>>18095618
im going to type in lamy stream "rushia refugees here trolldespair"

>> No.18160618

>>18145372
redpill me on how she's the ultimate GFE queen, I don't watch her but I didn't know she'd be the best at that, what does she do aside from the other girls or what would be the appeal?

>> No.18160682

>>18159573
Kek

>> No.18160850

>>18143936
Here's the thing. HAD. There's literally 0 way of knowing if they still do unless they fuck it up. That's all it takes. Which is what Rushia did, she fucked it up.

>> No.18160880

>>18160618
>Groom her gachikois
>Get angry when she see them chatting on discord with other girl
>Wedding merch, engagement ring,...

>> No.18160993

No, JP is in fact worse

>> No.18161426

>>18160850
Ok but if they still do what's the big deal? You guys are also gonna call them whores because you legitimately thought you had a chance? Or because you thought they were free despite there not being a single evidence proving that?

>> No.18161548 [DELETED] 

>>18103674
The term femcel indicates it's voluntary

>> No.18161606

>>18161426
I'm going to call them whores because I don't fucking watch them to hear about their boyfriend. The moment you bring that in it fucking ruins the entire point of watching a vtuber.

>> No.18162072

>>18161606
What *is* the point of watching a vtuber? Or do you mean it's *your* point of watching one? Do you actually fall into the GFE shit? Please wait until I finish laughing like an ojousama at you

>> No.18162144

>>18095552
You’ll get no arguments from me

>> No.18162198

>>18095552
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I refuse to learn

>> No.18162202

>>18162072
To watch an anime girl play like a retard (or well, depending) and entertain. Not to listen to anime girl talk about their boyfriends. If I cared about a relationship I'd go fucking read a shojo manga

>> No.18162234

>>18143655
>Rushia, the queen of GFE, the absolute golden standard of it, and think that somehow you're the ones in the right. If hypothetically she does have a boyfriend, then that means it's perfectly okay to have a boyfriend while doing GFE, because she has much more authority on the subject than you guys
She won’t be anymore after this one.

>> No.18162581

>>18162202
I mean, that's on you assuming all they'll do is talk about them like on a zatsudan or something, this would just mean ppl knowing about it, and it not meaning anything within their relationship with their fans, aka destroying GFE and ppl just watching them because they're entertaining and cute for them. It wouldn't change anything, it'd be healthier, and make people less obsessed.

>> No.18162780

Do you cucks really think our "Idols" don't have a life outside of Hololive?

While I understand that she should not have used her Vtuber account for personal conversation, it's no reason to start believing that Rushia and Mi-chan are the same person.

In fact, separate Rushia from her voice actor and you guys will save yourself the life of eternal virginity

>> No.18163103

>>18162780
perhaps she should have personal shit on her work discord

>> No.18163309

>>18163103
but that the thing though, why the fuck would mafumafu message his GF on discord?

>> No.18163552

>>18163103
That was just braindead stupid. But people should pretend it was Mi-chan he texted and not Rushia.

Man, these guys should seriously start separating Rushia from Mi-Chan and her real life so this situation can diffuse

>> No.18164772

>>18162780
>>18163552

They tried this separation shit with Kizuna Ai and it didn't work. Maybe it's time you accept that the person behind a vtuber is just as important as the vtuber herself.

>> No.18164910

>>18103190
inb4 fandead deliver her cum per mail

>> No.18165419

>>18162780
I’ve never spent a dime on any streamer and don’t intend too. Idols aren’t supposed to have boyfriends though, it is part of the job. I’m no fool and cynically realise that many do or worse but it is still unprofessional and wrong. If they don’t like it then the better solution is to find a different line of work.
It is even more messed up with the heavy GFE parasocial manipulation though.

>> No.18165780

>>18113912
Just make the switch.

>> No.18165789

>>18112009
just give them the cuck experience

probably get 200k in supachats a week

>> No.18168758

>>18159573
kek, is trolldespair a youtube emote as well?

>> No.18169000

>>18095618
Why do people keep mentioning Chloe?

>> No.18169046

>>18103190
not too bad edit
saved

>> No.18169268

>>18111716
rushia entertainment is mostly GFE so it's weird to say this to fancucks

>> No.18170660

>>18142657
They have boyfriends, but they would drop them at the drop of a hat for someone better.

>> No.18170701

>>18095552
>the fancucks are now defending her in full cope and cuck mode
Yep, there's no difference. Both fanbases are just simps and cucks. The girl can fuck someone on stream and their fans would probably defend it.

>> No.18171414

>>18112203
>vtubing is a fucking joke to real idol culture

rushia takes home more in superchats than what 99% of actual idols get paid annually

>> No.18180085

>>18169000
Because she's my girlfriend

>> No.18180500

>>18102205
>>18103494
>>18108187
Kinda pathetic this is the only comeback some eop can muster but the truth is truth, JP > EN

>> No.18180707

>>18095552
EN has GFE? WHO?

>> No.18180861

How mad are the nips? English speakers went full whiteknight already, but I don't see any actual upset incels anywhere except 2-3 guys here.

>> No.18180918

>>18180707
Nene Amano is actually good at it

>> No.18180958

>>18095552
From what I can tell JP is actually much worse.

>> No.18181086

>>18180958
JP is much worse since they have hardcore GFE who go way more into the parasocial shit than anyone in the west does. Except they cuck you just the same, so you get much more invested before the big cuckening.

>> No.18181199

>>18180861
Its pretty bad. Rushia's roommate deleted her account a few hours ago after posting something concerning. I am actually genuinely worried.

>> No.18181403

what a whore rushia ill kill that bitch

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GFEfags and unicorns have always been pathetic retards, and it's always funny to see them sperg out when their simp fantasy crumbles.

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I will always be your girlfriend, Anon so don't cheat on me okay?

>> No.18182489

>>18182301
What's she doing behind that door?

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It hurts so much....

>> No.18182550

>>18095687
35th rushia thread This Hour!

>> No.18182697

>>18095552
EN GFE is so much worse because I can actually interact with the people who fall for it and read their retarded opinions
At least the nips speak with retardrunes and I can't understand them

>> No.18182750

I mean they've both shared the same plates and cups for years, seeth harder...

>> No.18182878

The single fuck happened now?

>> No.18182952

>>18095552
Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of my loyal wife Ceres Fauna giving me an ear cleaning.

>> No.18182999

>>18095552
They're mostly all whores, yes. This is why I only watch Ina now.

>> No.18183136

>>18095618
>believes Chloe is pure
>lives in denial that Lamy also just pretends she doesn't get lots of dick
>calls others cucks
You are going to have a copium overdose, anon. You should be careful!

>> No.18183197

>>18102061
How ofte do you see seiyuus talk about sex if ever?
People have been talking for years about how the seiyuu industry has been inching closer towards employing an idol type marketing strategy for their talent. They practically have to deal with the same shit for the same reason.

>> No.18183358

>>18095962
>how can she possibly do the GFE stuff still?
Now we get true gfe experience. Sobbing apology, guilt tripping, menhera suicide baiting and more. Her Akasupas are going to raise jap gdp .01%

>> No.18183805

>>18162202
but rushia never say anything about her boyfriend retard, if you never fantasize about having her as your girlfriend then it doesnt matter if she has a bf or not

>> No.18184239

>>18096265
I can smell the body odor on this post.

>> No.18185279

>>18095552
>same quality

No, EN GFE is better

>> No.18185620

>shilling fuck irl jannies lamy

>> No.18186365

>>18103190
fuck that is a good one.

>> No.18189268

>>18095552
kek

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I have a plan….

>> No.18189631
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>>18182106
>using korone for that post

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>>18095552

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>> No.18193508

>>18189631
Can't believe Korone was taking jabs at Rushia this whole time.

>> No.18193834

>>18095962
>>18145287
They're orthodox idol agency, how many times have the girl said shit that no irl idol would say? Marine? Matsuri? Fucking hachama?
Hell even the main hololive channel wanted to make a skit about that exact topic how aqua wanted to be an idol even though she doesn't meet the criteria of a traditional idol only to end with "fuck it, we're idols in our own way even if we don't represent the traditional values"

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