/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

So many people are making fun of gachikoi...
Why? Hololive cultivated that type of audience.
Why is sincerity always punished?

[Anonymous No.]

Sincerity? GFE is the least sincere thing there is. The woman cultivating the GFE lies to her audience. Her audience falls not for the woman, but for the fantasy. It's all smoke and mirrors.

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>>18169121
>sincerity
LOL
LMAO even

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>>18169201
fpbp

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Lonely men are the only marginalized group for which it's socially acceptable to shit on. In fact doing so is becoming trendy. Then normies are surprised when people snap.

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>>18169121
Because this hobby was doomed after becoming mainstream and attracting westerners, someone should post that comic strip.

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What do you mean? I'm sympathizing with them. They were tricked. They should promptly stop giving her money and come to Nijisanji where they don't try so hard to trick you.

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>>18169121
LOL people are unreal, arguing over the type of Chinese cartoon fan you are. Please know you are all worthless faggots regardless.

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>>18169280
A Japanese woman caused all this. The people freaking out about this are Japanese en masse.

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It's literally imposible for me to have a positive view about women eventhought I have female friends

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>>18169121
Don't shitpost with Okayu, you fucking faggot. Go dig up a Watame or Suisei image.

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>>18169121
>people
Those aren't people. They are whores and should be treated like the subhumans they are.

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>>18169121
I don't really care one way or another.
Although I don't think they "deserve it". They were certainly asking for it, but I don't think they are bad people who should get fucked by life.
They are just mentally ill. Their actions aren't spawned by malicious intent, just by desperation and delusion.

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>>18169121
>sincerity
I remember when fancuck told me Rushia was a sincere honest GFE that truly loves you. I'll be laughing at them for a year.

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>>18169339
How is this a shitpost?

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>>18169121
I sympathize with and understand the plight the gachikoi fans in their day to day lives. But that ends when they all start to get menhera over some shit that was inevitably going to come out, shit they didn’t even consider (or don’t want to consider) to be a possibility until it all comes crashing down and ruins the fantasy (despite everyone knowing full-well that it is a real person behind the avatar). Also:
>Why is sincerity always punished?
The sincere feelings of the gachikoi are punished anytime a YAB comes out. It’s on them for 100% investing all of their hope, love and trust in a single person they don’t even fully know behind-the-scenes. People making fun of them here is just how 4chan is.

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>>18169121
Don't expect anything from faggots here. It's all offsiters and ENs.

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>>18169121
Because they're sure they'll keep paying.

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>>18169121
This is the final stage of a gachikoi. I recommend killing yourself before reaching this point.

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>>18169121
Normalfags OP. Normalfags are, were and forever will be the greatest blight of humanity whose prevalent sheep brains continue to this day to stagnate the progress of this world and cast ridicule towards anyone who strays from its path

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>>18169201
>lies to her audience
She's not supposed to do that, but you're correct, they all do.

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>>18169121
>Hololive cultivated that type of audience.
Not my oshi.
>Why is sincerity always punished?
Because being sincere in your pathetic nature does nothing to change it.
Don't get me wrong, I feel for gachikoi. In a nice world they would all find company or realize that they are fine alone. This clearly isn't that world and they are shitting up my entertainment instead.

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>>18169503
Because there is no sincerity. The chuuba is utilizing manipulative roleplay while the fan is in a delusional state of mind where they convince themselves that more money = higher displays of affection. This is no different from donating to a camwhore.

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>>18169274
Self-inflicted stupidity has always been socially acceptable to shit on. The only difference now is these losers can connect via the internet and make their affliction their " identity".

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>>18170305
>Self-inflicted stupidity has always been socially acceptable to shit on.
then why can't I shit on fat women and trannies?

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>>18170761
You can, and are in fact doing so right now.

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>>18170305
>Self-inflicted stupidity has always been socially acceptable to shit on
Reminder that Rushia went into her Discord settings, turned off streamer mode and decided this was the best course of action.

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>>18170761
You can and don't let a few journos and fags on twitter tell you otherwise.

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>>18170761
You’re here, aren’t you? Go for it anon! I’m rooting for you!

[Anonymous No.]

This is the reason why people are ironic 24/7.
You can't be hurt if you don't care.
Kinda sad desu

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>>18170825
Why do you think that Rushia and her gachikoi being retarded is an either-or thing?

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>>18169997
If you ever legitimately trust women you're a retard

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>>18169121
>Hololive
No, only Rushia and Lamy.

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>>18169121
>Why is sincerity always punished?
westerners are deeply irony poisoned and allergic to sincerely enjoying anything

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>non-Japanese people with no understanding of Japanese culture criticizing a uniquely Japanese cultural phenomenon

This happens literally every time there's drama in the idol scene that leaks out of its containment pocket. Normalfags STILL complain about the AKB shaved head or the "no dating" culture. This type of entertainment is not for them, but they can't help but comment anyway. They don't understand, and they'll never understand.

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>>18169201
>GFE is the least sincere thing there is
fpbp. never trust these whores especially about love

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>>18169201
It's a game of gentle lies. You don't act like you're selling, i don't act like i'm buying. There are rules to it. If we are talking contemporary events - rushia was pretty good at it, but this time it's out. This is why it's exploded.

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Just go look at the Reddit thread on this. You are no longer the audience. Hololive has gone mainstream. You are replaced by thousands of normalfags who think you are a creepy desperate incel. The girls don't owe you anything. They are allowed to have their own lives. You should HOPE they all have partners.

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>>18173135
This. Hololive is not a small org anymore, they can't do anything without permission first just like a normal idol agency.

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>>18173135
>Just go look at the Reddit thread on this. You are no longer the audience
That was the case on r*ddit for two years now. Good fucking morning.
>You are replaced by thousands of normalfags who think you are a creepy desperate incel.
Who is (you)? 'member when Okayu goslingposter was a deviation rather than the norm and realized that he isn't an upstanding member of the community? I 'member. Stop acting like you always owned the place. You are the infiltrators.
>The girls don't owe you anything. They are allowed to have their own lives.
This is the ideal. They should be free to produce the kind of content they want. Obviously the ones choosing to pander to unicorns to get paypigs don't get to complain about them but the fact that Cover feels the need to push this image onto talents was an unfortunate development in Hololive's history that happened right about when retarded EOPs and chinks started pouring in.

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>>18169201
fpbp, gachikois should have stayed as a joke but hololive doubled down on them just like west taiwan and now they're losing nearly everything

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I'm a gachikoi but none of this shit bothers me at all. I'm truly in love with my oshi. If I found out she was dating someone, good for her. She deserves to be happy. She already added a lot of joy to my life.

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>>18169121
1) because this is /vt/ and it shits on everyone.
2) a considerable portion of /vt/ users aren't "people".

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>>18169121
Because horrorlive management is full of psychopaths who spend all their days thinking of ways to take advantage of it and have no emotions related to it.

The commandment of control means that you should have full control over what's important to you like a social relationship.
In this case there is a psychopathic middle men who has full control of it and can destroy that relationship at any moment.
The difference here is that the vtuber did the damage for once, but they have been selected specifically by the suits to deceive people in order to make more money.

Also it's impossible to obtain the love a person did not receive during his childhood from an external person.
The only way to obtain this love is to give it to yourself and become your own parent who gives out unconditional love by replacing your failed parents and acknowledging their failures as human beings and not gods.

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>>18173135
Holy based.

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>>18169339
fuck off faggot, don't drag Watame into your retarded shitposting

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>>18172557
>IF YOU AIN’T POC DON’T SPEAK ON POC ISSUES
All looks like shit from the outside looking in. Doesn’t mean I want to change your precious idol culture, I can still criticize it

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>>18172557
since when incels are unuquely japanese phenomenon you utter mongoloid

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>>18169121
Read Toxic parents by Susan Forward.
All your problems come from the beliefs and memories you inherited from your childhood.
Until you revisit your past and change your perception of it you will continuously repeat the same issues in life, because your subconscious wants a solution to it and repeats what it knows best.

Every bad memory can be cured by imagining it again and letting the emotion out, then by imagining a different way to act in this memory to make it a better one.
Once a bad memory has been cured, you will feel a lot of your energy being released, you will become more optimistic, and your mindset will improve and make you do better life choices which lead to more happiness.

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>>18169201
If you're illusional enough to believe that individual behind avatar actually cares about you, get your meds.

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>>18169121
Because vtubing inadvertently attracted a normalfag audience, and normalfags will gladly kick others down just to feel better about themselves. They think gachikoi are below them in their social hierarchy so that gives them a free pass to mock and belittle them.

Do you notice how many people are unironically criticizing the gachikoi instead of Rushia? Somehow, the gachikoi are at fault for giving her genuine affection, not Rushia for leading them on and callously manipulating them.

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>>18172557
>>18175622
The only problem with people commenting on Japanese issues is that almost none of them speak Japanese and have no way of understanding it, like that shaved head girl is a good example of a case where none of the context was ever translated so westerners freaked over nothing. If you can speak the language then you should be able to talk about it accurately otherwise you have no idea what you're talking about. That's different from English speakers speaking on English speaking nigger issues.

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>>18178539
If Rushia is "leading them on and callously manipulating them." then why do you defend the practice as if it's a good thing and the consumers of this content as if it's the one true way to enjoy chuubas? Are you genuinely masochistic or just retarded?

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>>18170037
no. She is supposed to do that. She can't not lie when saying she loves (You) because she's saying it to thousands of people on a live stream at the same time. GFE was always nothing but a delusion, even if she didn't date a man irl, it's impossible for her to love (You)

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>muh normalfags
So say the subhumans who justify watching 3DPD streamshit with 2D masks on. I came here to laugh at you. All of you.

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Why is it bad I feel empathy for people who were manipulated for financial gain? I've never even watched a Rushia stream but I feel bad for people who were preyed on.

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>>18169121
>So many people are making fun of gachikoi...
>Why?
Being poor and a cuck can make man bitter and angry.

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>>18169121
Blame the redditdragon. When that bitch started pandering to EOP redditors there was no going back.

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>>18179135
>preyed on
they fucking knew from the start it was all fake and if they didn't they shouldn't be on the internet in the first place, fucking subhumans

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>>18179135
Their own weakness is to blame. Don't feel bad for drug addicts.

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>>18179245
That's not how emotionally vulnerable people think. They had something missing in their life and she openly offered to fulfill it in some way.

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>>18179621
i am SICK and fucking TIRED of people defending others going "muh emotional damage! muh mental illness!" and acting like they don't deserve to be absolutely shat on

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>>18179712
You are obviously mentally ill and deserve to be shat on. Deal with it wannabe psycho nigger.

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>>18179712
you're moralfagging, same as him. only difference is you've chosen to whiteknight for the whore.

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>>18179809
practice your armchair psych just a little more, troon
>>18179842
i'm not whiteknighting, faggot
shit like this will ALWAYS happen
the dealers are bad, sure, but the addicts are subhuman retards as well and i'm tired of pretending they're not

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>>18178926
Because it was REAL up until the yab. Rushia's GFE was REAL, Her Love was REAL, but now with the truth it's undeniable that she was lying the whole time...

Look, you just don't fucking get it.
Why don't you go back? Isn't the superbowl this Sunday? Why don't you go away and watch your gay fagball or whatever?

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>>18169298
>They were tricked
Surely they must know the deal though. Woman plays a character on the internet, character pretends to be their GF. Just don't look behind the curtain. That's not to say GFE tubers are entirely innocent here, taking advantage of vulnerable and lonely people to milk them for cash is shitty, but deep down they must know they are being sold a fantasy?

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>>18179998
>Because it was REAL
No.
>Rushia's GFE was REAL
No.
>Her Love was REAL
NO.
Trannies will never be women, and she never loved (You).

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>>18169121
If your mind is in such advanced schizo state that you actually believe in GFE, you deserve it.

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>>18179998
Why don't YOU go back to watching some twitch whore write your name on a whiteboard for a donation while bending over and whispering into the mic? That's the kind of stuff that gets you GFE fags going as long as she pretends not to have a boyfriend, right?

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>>18169121
>Why is sincerity always punished?
Because we're men. We are expendable and exist to be used and abused. We don't matter. That's the conclusion I reached.

What drew me into vtubing was the notion that there are actual good women out there, but that just like us most of them got dealt a shitty hand in life, or were shy, or ugly, or otherwise just didn't fit in with the normalfaggot horde. I saw vtubing as something beneficial to them and us, a chance to connect based on mutual interests. I thought they understood and were a part of the culture and that they understood us. I saw stuff like GFE, or general teasing and fanservice as them just being nice to us because we're nice to them. Good feelings all around, going in circles. Mutual support. But none of that was true in the slightest. They, like all women, are just exploiting us and see us as nothing more than paypigs at best. I'm willing to bet that behind the scenes they genuinely hate and despise us, and laugh at us. Because we're useful idiots, nothing more. There is no distinction between a whore a thot and a vtuber in the end. A woman is a woman is a woman. I'm an older guy and for me this was the last place for idealism. I truly respected and admired these girls and thought that they are simply better than the common roastie. But nope. If Rushia exploited the hell out of her gachikoi for four years while being fucked, having a bf and all, and on top of that demanding absolute loyalty from her fans and playing up the obsessive yandere gf angle what hope is there? There never was any hope. It was all always just a lie, just them laughing at us and taking our money and affection.

All I can think of now is in which way this or that girl is lying. Because there's no way that she isn't. I've lost faith completely. If even something like this is full of cynical whores, that just means that there really is nobody out there and never was. Men are utterly alone. I am alone. You are alone. And we will live and die alone. Women are incapable of love, loyalty or affection. They just fake it while it gets them free money and free labor from men, and the moment you are no longer needed they will discard you. In vtubing they merely pretended to understand for instance, and that's how they do things in their whole lives. We are just beasts of burden to them.

Rushia and Mori have completely destroyed vtubing for me. And women as a whole. I just can't deal with this anymore, it's always the same. I refuse to deal with it. Women are monsters, pure monsters that just resemble humans. There is no other thing to do but to work a shit job, go home and repeat, and then one day die. Because there's nobody out there. Cucks are a plenty and nobody can change that. They will defend Rushia, Mori and laugh at "le incel" in a vain effort to please their masters, and they will side with them. They'll post this or that about "toxic idol culture" and whatnot because they've been buckbroken a long time ago, and can't even understand that these women should be held to a standard. It's le oppresive after all, right?

Mori made me hate women. Rushia made me hate women. Vtubing made me hate women. Everything MGTOWs, incels, saints, witch hunters, muslims, philosophers and so on said about women was true. They deserve to hurt, they deserve to be torn to pieces and thrown to the dogs. They are not really human. And I will never in my life offer help, a kind word or deed to any woman regardless of age or status of (faked) personality.

Now, let us go home, and wait to die.

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>>18178883
>you can't criticize Saudi Arabia for any of the shit they do, because you don't speak Arabic
Fuck off with your moral relativism shit. Just because you have decided that Japan is the greatest country on Earth that can do no wrong, does not mean that everyone has to agree or that they "just don't get it".

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>>18169121
Crabs in a bucket

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>>18180591
keep jumping at the bit like a fucking retard lol
the fact is that eops literally can't comment on shit when they don't get what's going on. half the shit passed through Google Translate is outright wrong

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>>18180511
Ancient proverb: You have to kiss lots of frogs before you meet your prince.
Don't let the thots hinder your way to find your happiness.

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>>18180955
his "happiness", if he ever gets it, will forever be teetering on the brink
women are not human

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>>18169121
>Why is sincerity always punished?
Because the medium got flooded by ironic weebs through the means of ironic weeb pandering "vtubers" like vshojo and EN indies
They replaced a part of the viewerbase and are too dumb to realize how much of a cancer they are

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>>18180511
>What drew me into vtubing was the notion that there are actual good women out there
I'm so sorry anon
>But none of that was true in the slightest
obviously
>They, like all women, are just exploiting us and see us as nothing more than paypigs at best
For that to be different you have to put emotional hooks into her, something you can only do personally
>Women are incapable of love, loyalty or affection.
Abou the same as us, they just find(and accept) their dark sides easier. Also they lie about it forever, prett much. You have to be just as ruthless or completely ignorant, and you lost your innocence already
>They just fake it while it gets them free money and free labor from men, and the moment you are no longer needed they will discard you
Yes it's a transation/struggle. We also leave them for younger models if we have the option to when they get old, ugly and really annoying
>Vtubing made me hate women
You already hated women before anon, it's just that you picked vtubing as the last bastion of your idealized view of women. Let it die. We are animals, we aren't better just because the game is rigged against us. Accept it. Learn from it. And then, once you calm down and manage to move on, give it a good look and decide how you can deal with this. What advantage you can get out of it, how you can build a life in this hellscape without hating yourself for it.
>They deserve to hurt, they deserve to be torn to pieces and thrown to the dogs
Not more than the worst of us desu
>They are not really human
The problem is exactly that they are human
>And I will never in my life offer help, a kind word or deed to any woman regardless of age or status of (faked) personality.
This is a good idea, only do it if you're to gain something(not expect to gain something but actually gain something out of it)
>Now, let us go home, and wait to die.
You'll get better. It'll take time, took me years of struggle to accept and internalize it, but I did and I believe in you, anon.

Just don't backslide and become a paypig for another one, thinking they are the one thats different.

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>>18180511
Brave post, anon. Prepare for the hordes of tourists shaming you for speaking the truth. I've already given up.

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>>18179998
she was lying the entire time you idiot

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>>18179135
all the femoids and tourists here will defend her as expected, as they believe women should be free of any accountability

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>>18169121
everyone is too deeply immersed in irony these days and fears having genuine feelings towards anything out of an aversion towards others being able to make fun of their interests.
>i just watch weebshit ironically, i'm gachakoi as a joke, lol who'd do that unironically, i keep all my hobbies at an arms length away from me at all times.

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>>18181243
I don't see a single soul defending her, anon. It's pretty much agreed that what she did was despicable. What's left are either people in denial(who are getting memed on), people defending the paypigs(who are also getting memed on because we gave them over 9000 warnings about this before), and various levels of cope like this one >>18181433 where they build an entire strawmen out of the "haters" to make themselves feel better.

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>>18181243
Im tourist for the drama but i hope she commits seppuku exploiting lonely men is pretty scummy.

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>>18180890
Unless you are claiming that you could convince most westerners to agree with you, if you just gave them "the correct translation", then the issue is clearly not the language barrier. But you must know that what they really lack is your blind love for Japanese culture, that you could not convince them of, even if you had 10 hours to explain everything to them.

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>>18180177
>>18180438
>>18181213
Why do you niggers involve yourself in a niche you don't understand? The OG /jp/ threads were always filled with cuckbaiting but you guys are absolute fucking niggers compared to them. Nobody wants your gay "advice" fags. Fuck off back to twatter and r*ddit.

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>>18181862
It's not niche anymore and it's not yours anymore. Twitter and Reddit are where the majority of Holofans are. The hobby is suffering normalfag death, time to move on.

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>>18181862
Anon... your wife doesn't suddenly become a cheater the moment you find her in bed with another dude. She's been all along. It wasn't real then, reality just caught up with you. As people have been telling you all along.

If you love that illusion that much just take the blue pill, spend a couple days doing something else to forget it and go back to your GFE.

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>Hololive cultivated that type of audience.
You know, all current drama asides, I've been wondering : Why is the Virtual "Idol" thing striving? No, even more, why is it even a thing?
I've been thinking of something, everyone apparently seems to "know" and get a kick out of the people feeding this industry, yet everyone seems to hate them. Which brings me to the question, why would you even try in the first place to gather that kind of audience? Think about it, why would a girl willingly put herself out and entertain people she hates? It doesn't make sense, particularly for girls, they're the kind that wouldn't hesitate to call you a loser and make fun of you in public. So why apply as an idol in the first place? You know exactly who's going to be the audience for that.

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>>18181862
I hate all Holoniggers, anon. I came here to laugh at you.

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>>18181862
>The OG /jp/ threads were always filled with cuckbaiting but you guys are absolute fucking niggers compared to them
The OG /jp/ threads were filled with Aifag shitposting about how Mito will get stabbed by retarded gachikoi one day and looking back he was more right on some things than I realized. Even in /hlg/ things used not to be this fucking retarded. Kill yourself already, you cancerous abominations. You are not the OGs. You have about as much rights to claim it as r*ddit EOPs, you lyger spawn.

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>>18182218
>why would you even try in the first place to gather that kind of audience?
Money.
>Think about it, why would a girl willingly put herself out and entertain people she hates?
Money. Haven't you heard of strippers?
>So why apply as an idol in the first place?
Money.

Anon, let me put it like this. Think of how gacha games make absurd amounts of money off whales with pngs and a couple voice lines. Think of how people lost their heads for Vocaloid back then, and for ai's clips afterwards. Someone had the brilliant idea to fuse these and get all that money by using an actress/"entertainer" to act as your 2d waifu and get all that mad dosh.

It was wildly sucessful. Everything else is just a markety strategy. Including(especially) girls that go for specific niches or try to sell themselves as "the different one"(Calli comes to mind).

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>>18169121
>normalfags
>people

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>>18181862

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>>18182218
>It doesn't make sense, particularly for girls, they're the kind that wouldn't hesitate to call you a loser and make fun of you in public. So why apply as an idol in the first place? You know exactly who's going to be the audience for that.
Because women are amoral and see men as an expendable resource to use and abuse. They become "idols" specifically because they know people like us are vulnerable and easy to exploit. It's like a wolf picking the weakest lamb in the herd to attack and devour.

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>>18169201
Fpbp

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The normalfag reaction is just so blatantly clueless, they have no idea the kind of unhealthy parasocial relationship Rushia cultivates with her fans/paypigs, they think she's just some funny anime streamer. They unironically think she's the victim here.

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>>18182396
The fact that so many on /vt/ don't understand this is both laughable and worrying.

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>>18174544
I miss Hololive before the GFE pandering faggotry. So much.
I can only hope they all off themselves and we go back to the good days where they could have fun without retards freaking out over every little thing.
Of course, let's face it, they will only prove the point of them being psychotic by harassing the talents for months if not for the foreseeable future.

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>>18182481
Pic related
>>18182521
Just to keep you grounded anon, remember that this is exactly what boy bands/celebs do to young women. This whole rushia yab has a female side seething as much as the gachikoi are, if not more - we are just as able to do this shit. Otherwise, correct.
>>18182636
I put it as a mix of social retardation, autism, shock, and innate desire for doing shit they like. For them it's hard to understand why socially sucessful women would ever do shit they dislike.

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>>18179998
damn how lonely do you have to be to reach this level of delusion

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>>18169201
Oh yes, last but definitely not the least.
Gachikoi? How about y'all gachi touch some grass.

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>>18182396
>>18182521
>Money
Yeah obviously, but still it sounds odd if you take into consideration the whole idol culture from there. Otakus clearly are seen as the bottom of the bottom in the social hierarchy, enough to be constantly made fun of and literally called trash.
.. yet, you decide to make your live around interacting with them? That's the loophole I don't understand. I'm not even talking about virtual idols only, real idols, maid cafes, all that shit.

And no, you brought strippers as an example but unless I'm mistaken strippers don't deal with the otaku-kind of audience. The culture is just different, that's exactly why Maid cafes have utterly failed in the West.

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>>18183053
>Gachikoi? How about y'all gachi touch some grass.
You're so unfunny that it's physically painful, go back.

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>>18172992
But you are literally handing them money over and over again.

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>>18183075
Otaku are the kind of people willing to throw their life saving at things they are interested in. It's in the word. Somebody had to exploit that.

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>>18182218
Idols want money, fans are happy to provide it to them as long as the idol(s) satisfies a need. Be it companionship, relationship, emotional satisfaction, or just entertainment. As long as fans feel their needs are fulfilled, everything works as intended. Mainly that. Even the idol detractors are just retards that want the money but don't want to work on satisfying those needs, just want the money given to them and feel cheated those fans aren't giving money to them.

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>>18181862
Almost none of that is advice, it is the truth. What you do with the truth is up to you. If you want to delude yourself that she cares about you and possibly doesn't have a man she is seeing in real life you are free to do so, but it doesn't make what they said any less false.

They don't want you to be emotionally and financially manipulated by these people under false pretenses. It's up to you if you want to continue pursing GFE or not. Vtubers started as entertainers, and that is how you should see them as.

[Anonymous No.]

First Mori, now Rushia. 1-2 punch, I'm KO.
t. ex-deadbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>18169201
both cunts
the idiots falling for this web whore shit
and the whores for promoting this

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>>18183075
>yet, you decide to make your live around interacting with them?
Understand that most people hate their jobs anyway. They didn't wake up one day and thought "hmm, I'll pander to some nerds". What happened is that they measured their options and realized they could make something between 5-300x more by pandering to men instead of working a honest job.

They don't need to be complete whores/foxes to start with either. That NSO game was good in showing it, they learn that pandering equals more viewers/followers equals more money. If YOU received a big bonus in cash every time you did something morally grey, and people fed your ego constantly on top of that, can you really say you'd not get bent over time?

Like not even 1 in 100 actual whores are there because they love the job. It's just easier/way more profitable than working normally. And if you can get even MORE money than a whore without necessarily sleeping with men(like being a stripper for instance), wouldn't you go for it, even if the clients get handsy sometimes? It's the same thing.
>>18183190
Also this. Which again brigns us back to whores. Did you know, the whole "girlfriend experience" thing? It was invented by whores first, you pay to fuck them and they treat you with (fake) love and affection and sweetness. The good ones even go past the alloted time and make sure to make you feel wanted/loved so you come back with more money.

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>>18183191
It's no surprise that Otakus would do all of that. It's just that I just realized, maybe very late but I'm a slow man, that logically any girl willingly doing this must not be a good person to begin with. You're literally making a living by exploiting people you hate. You can't be good at your core.
I wouldn't care if it was indifference but you can clearly see that everyone hates the audience and just uses whatever opportunity they can to trash them. Which is why I thought earlier that this whole industry might be kind of fucked up when you think about it.

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>>18183506
>Understand that most people hate their jobs anyway
Some Holos outright said that.

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>>18183506
You're right. But as you say, it's about satisfying the customer, i.e. (You). The thing that becomes drama is when that fiction gets challenged. Imagine if Friend agreed with the chinks and stopped associating with Coco even just on twitter. Imagine if Ame caved in at the beginning and decided to move to twitch. Even you point it out.
>The good ones even go past the alloted time and make sure to make you feel wanted/loved so you come back with more money
And not even only female idol and male fan. Look at fujos, it's funny how nobody even mentions the mafu side, considering some of the mafujos still hate Ado.

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>>18176100
Sounds like a load of bullshit but I'll genuinely try that when I meditate today.
Thank you for your post anon.

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>>18176100
Not only parents. Look up the concept of "mental models". It's literally how you programmed yourself to look at life. Jailbreaking it (introspection) is very hard to do.

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>>18183781
I think the issue is that since this happens over the internet, it's too easy for people to have their ficiton challenged. This isn't even the first of Rushia's yabs, the others were just hidden under the rug. There's a strong PR machine working overtime to keep the illusion going.

I think people will forgive/forget all this pretty soon, most whales will take the blue pill, double down and go back into the Matrix. Or switch girls, which will solve exactly nothing, instead setting them up for this again and again and again.

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>>18176100
>Every bad memory can be cured by imagining it again and letting the emotion out, then by imagining a different way to act in this memory to make it a better one.
Smells like bullshit. I don't see how you would justify people bullying you or even make it a better memory. If people treat you like shit you have absolutely no reason to trust others. It's called logic.

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>>18183982
My point is, how is it different from just following whoretubers? The fans just like the anime avatar. You can say whatever, but they like what they like. Kinda like when Projekt Melody debuted on Chaturbate and then started breaking records to the point the whores were complaining about how a literal drawing was making fun of all their hard work. They're different audiences, as proved by that time one of the most popular of them got an avatar and her actual fans hated it.

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>>18184182
>how is it different from just following whoretubers?
The average paypig will write you a wall of text to contest this. The truth, however, is that it isn't.

You can't even say GFE streamers are providing a service and sue them because the way it is set up it's all implicit. You're not buying them, or their content, you're "donating". Which takes all the power away from the donors themselves.

Of course, the flip side is that the girl can end up with a big audience that doesn't actually donates that much. Which I imagine is how the other girls felt looking at Rushia being paid 3x more than then, regardless of her having less viewers.

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>>18183053
Please, just fuck off back to r*ddit

[Anonymous No.]

The basis of any good relationship is give and take, you're not taking anything from GFE shit, but you sure are giving.
Have any of you watched Kson? Compared to Coco its like night and day, I still to this remember what Coco said about male collab, she said "Every stream is a date between me and the viewers", now that she's Kson that's no longer the case now is it.

Can't speak for others but for a big chunk of Holo's its an image forced onto them and it very profitable.

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>>18184346
>You're not buying them, or their content, you're "donating".
Not him and a bit unrelated, but is money received from donations exempt from things like taxes? If that's the case then the rabbit hole goes even deeper than I initially thought.

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>>18177601
when i'm feeling illusional

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I'm all for the unabashed commercialization of an idealized and forever unreachable female partner to fill the void in the hearts of lonely males, regardless of whether the woman playing the part is herself emotionally invested in the fantasy she creates for her fans or not, so long as she's professional and doesn't fuck up like Rushia did. There's real demand for that and it helps people get through the day as much as any other form of entertainment, so I'm not really going to complain if somebody wants to support a streamer whose activities gives them some kind of emotional feedback they enjoy. That said, gachikois can often lose sight of the line separating the real person from the idol, or worse, they feel entitled to dictate where that line ought to be, almost as if they had a say in how much of that person's private live they're entitled to be a part of. That sadly seemed to be a particularly pervasive problem among fandeads. The annoying part is that it's actually a minority of people who go all the way down this madness, but they stand out, not only because the way they behave is repulsive to many, but also because shitstorms like this will always focus on ridiculing them. As much as they deserve the ridicule, the majority of fans end up suffering for it. In fact, being of the opinion that "oh well, it's her life, she can do whatever she wants, it's not as if we're in an actual relationship, I just wished she'd kept it private," is probably the most common position people have when they start to develop feelings for an idol or vtuber, and you don't have to take my word for it, just lurk nip twitter looking for tweets about it that aren't just shitposting. But when something like this happens, the place is flooded with hyenas looking for nothing but drama and shitflinging and all of a sudden if you ever thought "I think this girl is cute and I want to support her" now you're a cuck. Not even a fandead btw, and I'm honestly on the fence about how much responsibility Rushia has for how high the rate of over-the-line gachikois was in her fanbase, but for people who just sincerely really liked her and wanted to support her I can imagine how annoying the state of the "dialogue" about this must be.

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>>18184597
Nope, streaming has become too big and exists for long enough that pretty much every big government taxes it now. There's even a minor holoJP yab because one of the girls didn't realize that and tried to tax evade. Up to very recently stuff like onlyfans wasn't taxed - I'm not sure the current state of that though.

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>>18184559
Fucking lies. She's still doing the same "huh? you're not gachikoi? of course you are" back-and-forth shtick with her audience she always did.

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>>18184788
Maybe it shouldn't be ok at all until we can get an AI to do it because everyone seems to be incapable of not pulling a rushia.

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>>18184559
Kson can't really be used as an example. She's not Coco anymore and don't have to do GFE pretend but on the flip side she's been flashing a lot her boobs and ass on stream. So technically she's partially selling her body, that's her give.

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>>18180511
You spoke my mind completely. Im an older guy here and this tanking turned me from a feminist into a misogynist

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>>18184346
>how the other girls felt looking at Rushia being paid 3x more than then, regardless of her having less viewers
You mean the whoretubers? Again, as you said, they could also just use a png and try their luck. It's not as if there's a barrier of entry, considering VShojo is a thing. Despite what some retards will say, they're a successful corpo, which proves there's a market for talents from this side of the globe with rules from this side of the globe.
Who knows, maybe one of them would actually realize that acting a character somewhat based on yourself and not just yourself is the point, and also manage to make it big, but that's just my take on it.

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>>18184932
The problem was mixing up the character and the person behind the screen. Notice how a lot of gachikoi have the expectation that the actress(because that's what GFE girls are, at best) actually remains single, don't interact with males, etc, outside of her working hours. Others are more self-aware and jsut ask that they do shit in private so they don't become aware of her escapades.

The cuck comparison isn't for nothing.
>>18185113
>older guy
>from a feminist
You, I have zero sympathy for.
>>18185167
No, I meant her colleagues in hololive. Just having more views means nothing if they don't put out the money. It's part of why streamers(women in general, really) aim for lonely men with dosh.

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>>18184932
That thought often crosses my mind, too. We'll probably get there sooner or later, but until then I don't think it's fair to punish everybody who's doing it right because of one fuck up. You just have to accept that it's a risky business.

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>>18185113
>feminist

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>>18185113
>a feminist
OH NO NO NO NO

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>>18185113
>>>>feminist
Hello, my fellow human being. How is the humanity being?

>>18185289
What about the connections? Iofi has shit numbers, but she has all the ID connections. One could say that's worth as much as money as long as you know how to leverage it, and hololive helps you with that.

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>>18185113
Ywnbaw

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>>18185113
>feminist
How many did you manage to rape before you came to this conclusion?

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>>18185113
>older guy
>feminist

holy fuck i hate boomers
I bet you crossdress too

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>>18185113
Ywnbaw m8

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>>18185687
>What about the connections?
They don't put food in your belly by themselves, anon. You are technically right, however, we could say the same for any artist that work for free to be paid in "exposure". It could potentially pay off, sure, but certain money in your pocket is better 90% of the time.

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>>18185113
Gay

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>>18185113
>feminist

t. Vox akuma level rapist

[Anonymous No.]

It's weird that it's older men that are more likely to be fooled by feminism.
I would have thought they'd be more sexist

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>>18169121
Nijiniggers need all the ammo they can get so they pounce on anything and everything about hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>18185981
They're from a generation where feminism was based

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>>18186023
cringe. giving women even the right to vote was too far

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>>18185981
They had the benefit of not having grown up with a generation of feminists. Also remember; feminism as a movement was created by a man.
>>18186023
/b/ was never good, I mean, feminism was never based

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>>18185113
TROON DETECTED. DEFCON FIVE. TROON DETECTED.

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>>18180511
Thanks for the new pasta.

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>>18169121
Anon, you're on the internet. Hell, you're on 4chan.
Getting made fun of is as inevitable as a tranny committing suicide. It's gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck gachikoi
love gachimuchi
simple as

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>>18186023
You can miss me with that bullshit

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>>18183609
>Which is why I thought earlier that this whole industry might be kind of fucked up when you think about it.
I'm honestly amazed that you ever thought this industry isn't fucked up.

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>>18180511
>>18185113
I'm probably older than you both, and he's being a bit dramatic let's be serious. What I initially liked about vtubers, or more precisely the kizuna era, was seeing a virtual anime girl being animated live with an obvious girl behind acting as such. I was completely aware that it was just a twitch with an anime facade but I didn't care, as long as they kept the act. As in, for Kizuna, being a super extremely (un)smart AI. To me it just felt an extension to a video game or anime that would bring me additional content to watch in those fields.
My mistake when Hololive came out though was to assume that the girls truly were connected with their audience, or would properly act upon their persona. I've had my doubts when a few of them started to talk about themselves from their own perspective rather than their persona perspective. On one hand I can't say it's a bad, on the contrary it's an extremely good move to make your viewers stay around, but on the other hand it clearly was becoming more and more like the twitch "egirl" streamers, just acting cute by wearing cat headsets and making random manga noises once in a while.

Then, the EN branches and shit like Vshojos became a thing, where some of them would also unrionically stream on twitch. Which meant, we went full circle. Being a westerner myself I don't want to be pessimistic, but the moment EN vtubers came into the mix it was only a matter of time before everything went to utter shit.

>feminism
If you're old you really should stop caring about those, unless you work in a field where social media has the power to cancel you. In that case, work somewhere else. Feminism, just like MGTOW, are just hobbies for people who have too much free time and no real problems to solve in their lives.

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>>18185875
Sorta why I also said that you needed to know how to leverage it. Unless they're set in other ways, like Noel, getting a lot of cash is just down to effort and luck. It's also what I think a difference between vtubing and the other things. Since you're just showing a drawing, unless you're doing a sexual thing based on donations or something, getting the fat cash is gonna take time.

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>>18186182
I unironically thought Kizuna was an actual AI. I might be retarded

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>>18186278
Autism is pretty certain, yes.

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>>18186182
>If you're old you really should stop caring about those, unless you work in a field where social media has the power to cancel you. In that case, work somewhere else. Feminism, just like MGTOW, are just hobbies for people who have too much free time and no real problems to solve in their lives.

This. Its a hobby for trustfund kids and retirees

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>>18186278
That was the point, she was acting. Technically she "was" an actual AI.

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>>18170761
You can shit on them all you want though. What are they gonna do? If they ban you you just evade and shit on them again and again and again until they neck themselves.

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>>18173135
That thread is hilarious, so many people speaking out on idol culture and throwing their 2 cents in, sentences like I DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS and shit like that. Meanwhile they're probably living in a big city in the US lmfao, they have no idea what JP societal culture is like.
Is the whole idol purity thing bullshit? Yes. But the JPs have built a cultural brand based on it, and what the western societies don't understand is that the JPs have a much higher standard of professionalism, even for amateurs. If you choose a career and build a name for yourself under a specific brand or theme, you are expected to follow it to the letter. Again, this is all crazy shit that I don't agree with either but my opinion doesn't matter on the subject because I am not a Japanese citizen.

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>>18185113
>feminist
zogged hard

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>>18180511
The most based post ever. Women never were human. They deserve all the suffering that's coming to them AND worse for their bullshit. This is a fact we as men must accept. Give these cunts absolutely nothing. For they deserve nothing. Wart-ridden hobo dick at best-case scenario.

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>>18185113
>feminist
Dude.

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>>18184980
>she's been flashing a lot her boobs and ass on stream.
with this I confirm that you don't even look at it and you have no idea what you are talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>18185113
This is the typical fandead everyone

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>>18186182
>Feminism, just like MGTOW, are just hobbies for people who have too much free time and no real problems to solve in their lives.
This. So much this.
>it was only a matter of time before everything went to utter shit
Anon, boyfriend yabs have happened before. Remember Shirara? It's just that Hololive is a big corpo in vtubing, which creates bigger ripples.
I always saw it as entertainment. In Hololive, it was seeing these girls with moving pngs failing to maintain a character and acting cute.

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>>18180511
Vtubing, and the whole idol industry is a business,and the purpose of any business is to make money. It is also an industry where almost all of the top positions in companies are being held by men.
So if it makes you feel better, you are not really being exploited by women. You are actually being exploited by men who see an opportunity to exploit losers like you by hiring women and making them trick you into giving them money, which then goes to the company that is ran by the men.

[Anonymous No.]

So... I guess this is the place for the circlejerk? The self-pity, the delusions, the grand melodramatic rants about the ills of society, the kneejerk reactions; it's all here and exactly as stupid as expected. "Oh boo hoo, woe is me, women are the worst, blah blah blah" shut the fuck up. Whiny obnoxious motherfuckers.

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>>18186552
I dont think yagoo did anything wrong. He just build the infrastructure to facilitates the streamers. Hes like a pimp of sorts. You can only really blame the hos

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>>18186552
So, pimps.
>>18186559
(you). This is what you're here for, right? Since you could just read in silence instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186559
(You)
Now begone, dramachama.

>>18186618
>>18186626
heh, basically
As that other anon said, it's the game. Some people decide to get too deep into it, others just consume it regularly.

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are there any other examples of entertainers trying to exploit and grow a fanbase that they simultaneously revile? it's clear that for many hololive talents, their opinion regarding gachikoi is that they're pathetic and irrational and even dangerous, and yet they go right on ahead selling wedding ring merch and romantic gf asmr in order to appeal to them and create new gachikoi. i find that really interesting and i'm wondering if there are examples of similar dynamics

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>men over 21
>watching simulated 16 year old girls

Explain yourselves

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>>18180511
Why wait to die? Just neck yourself.
It's your own fault for actually considering women higher than a cum dumpster. These dumb bitches are just good for a fuck and stealing their shit after sex. That's how I had been doing it before this covid shit.
Treat women like what they are: garbage. The moment you acknowledge them as more than a cum dump is the moment you become a cuck.

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>>18186626
Not here for (you)'s. You retards just piss me off, so I'll vent right back at you.

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>>18186705
>many hololive talents
Oh, you're another dramanigger. Just move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186705
Heavy Metal. Metallica and KISS, gene simmons specifically

Comics. The actor for hawkeye thinks comic readers are absolute losers

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186559
I can only imagine what would motivate somebody to come to a circle-jerk of stupid losers wallowing in self-pity to flaunt their superiority.

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>>18186744
yadda yadda piss

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>>18186727
>t. Hunter biden
If you stole shit from me id bust your fucking face after the date

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>>18172932
and send the retards that get entranced by GFE into asylums

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>>18186812
Boredom drove to read, and frustration drove me to post. That's the play-by-play, not that you asked.

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>>18186559
>circlejerk
gb2 reddit

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>>18186786
It's funny how newfags think that taking advantage of a group you dislike/hate/despise is a novel concept.

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>>18186618
Rushia did not make those engagement ring merch herself. Also if they were living together, you can be sure that everybody on the inside already knew. They know that the streamers lie, they only care if they get caught.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186705
Fucking PORNSTARS treat their fans better than some of these streamers.

I avoided titty streamers because you just know they hate their audience. I wasnt expecting the same from toobas

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186707
bro Rushia's like 10 years older than me

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186705
Probably every single attractive female entertainer of any kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>t. Hunter biden
>If you stole shit from me id bust your fucking face after the date

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>>18186705
Boybands? Male idos in general? If you take a look on Rushia's bf side of things, he built a career of doing the exact same thing, up to and including the engagement ring scam. Actually, this make me want to give a hard look at the male holos for the first time, to see how deep that shit is over there.

Oh, and pretty much anything and everything directed towards "nerds". Hollywood hates you as well, as do comic writers, people making videogames, etc.
>>18186707
>simulated 16 yo girls
I don't do that, officer. These are too old for me
>>18186744
>you retards
Sure, if you stay you'll find there's like 1-2 gachikois here at best and 7-8 people having a conversation. You missed the actual blowup, dramachama, try the archives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18187029
Pic related

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>>18186913
T.

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>>18186705
I got one for you nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186705
>emo bands
>kpop bands
>boybands
>comic writers
>disney execs
>anyone who worked on the ghostbusters or star wars remakes
>jk rowling if youre a tranny
>videogame studios

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>>18186520
>Anon, boyfriend yabs have happened before.
I'm not talking about those. To be honest, you'd be pretty retarded to even assume that any of those girls were single in the first place when they all know perfectly how to pander to men.
I'm talking about the whole overall quality and cultural things that defined them. To put it into perspective, idols are not a thing in the West. So making EN virtual idol was technically nonsense as far as idols are concerned. Or I guess not complete nonsense, as my belief even to this day is that those international branches were made as culture viewers containment.

People like to argue that it's just because of technical difficulties and distance but one look at the difference in quality, or even content, of the events from both JP and EN is more than enough to understand. I'm not saying that they can't be popular the same, I'm just saying that it's a different kind. You can't really expect yabs from EN because they're just not really yabs for the EN culture. One key example I can think of is the janitor yab with Pekora. On the JP side, literally everyone told her to apologize. What do you think would happen if Gura, or even Mori, make such a joke? People would likely drown the ones asking to apologize by making typical EN comments like "its jk lmao", "man up" or "grow a thicker skin holy shit".

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>>18187410
Come to think of it is there a single confirmed single girl?

[Anonymous No.]

Some of you need to internalize the following message:

I don't care if the girl's owe me nothing. I don't care about their rights. I still don't want them to have a boyfriend.

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>>18187029
>hate their audience. I wasnt expecting the same from toobas
I don’t think Rushis actually hates them. Which chuubas do seem to at least dislike their audience though? Mori, Ame, Kronii?

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>>18187459
It is not possible to prove a negative like that.

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>>18186182
>Feminism, just like MGTOW, are just hobbies for people who have too much free time and no real problems to solve in their lives.
Holy based.

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>>18187500
If the undisputed queen of GFE Vtubers can't abide by that, then it's not a realistic requirement.

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>>18187013
She forged them in her apartment of mordor when shes getting her insides demolished by that twink

[Anonymous No.]

>>18187506
Mori absolutely HATES her Hololive fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18186786
>>18187029
>>18187044
>>18187070
>>18187287
>>18187400
thanks for the answers fellas, i guess i've been a little naive, didn't think the practice was so common. that sounds kind of soul-crushing, trying to develop products and content for people you hate, trying to get into their head and figuring out what they'd like from you even though you despise them

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>>18187506
Kronii 100%. She's an SJW who's conflicted with her big boob model. Watch any clip where she had to reference them, you can hear the disgust. On the flipside Nina Kosaka was a lefty facestreamer and she's at peace with the fact that shes playing a big tittied fox spirit

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>>18187506
>I don’t think Rushis actually hates them.
She was attracted to another male. How can you say she doesn't hate her fans? Don't you understand?

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>>18186707
Rushia's 3 years older than me.
>Chris Hansen
Go back.

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>>18187685
Think of them like casinos or cigarette companies. They bank off of peoples compulsions and think theyre rubes

[Anonymous No.]

>>18187459
You can't prove that a boyfriend doesn't exist, only that he does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18187685
It's a job like any other, just easier, pays way more, and comes with a lot of status.

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>>18187459
No confirms, but that's a given. After all confirming would literally mean killing their career.

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>>18187792
Cant corpos force them to use chastity cages and regularly UV their faces for cumstains? I think its possible to enforce

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>>18187685
Just think about it man, if you hate your fanbase so much, wouldn't it make it better if you manipulated them and got them to send you money and buy your merch?

[Anonymous No.]

At what point does one become gachikoi? What if you buy merch, membership and SC to top it off but you don’t give a damn about GFE?

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>>18187713
Saddest thing about this whole situation is that I legit cannot say if you are being sarcastic or if you're actually braindead

[Anonymous No.]

>western fans recognize the problems with idol culture and how easily jp fans go gachikoi
>goes gachikoi anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>18169121
now that hololive has a decently big audience of normalfags and reddit types, they want to get rid of gachikois for good cause of drama etc.. etc..

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>>18187500
We understand your selfish desires, and how unhealthy they are, gachikoi-san. Our feelings aren't logical, and I can't even say that you're wrong for wanting it. You just shouldn't expect to actually get that for real. Most people like you aren't even mad at the bf himself but at her for having broken the illusion of no bf.
>>18187685
You're not a gamer, are you anon? The whole mess with The Last of Us 2 was pretty much the dev unashamedly shitting on their "undesirable" audience and SJWs loving it. Comics outright call out nerds as problematic people. It's everywhere. And the idiots keep spending money. I don't care how soul-crushing it is, for me it's better if they all go insane and kill themselves asap.
>>18187703
This, unfortunately. I wish she could be happy, but she's a feminazi so that's never happening.
>>18187713
You don't need to hate your fans to like other men, anon. Your feelings are getting in the way, making you act like a rabid fangirl of one of these boy bands. This is like getting mad that a prostitute is sleeping with someone else. She loved your money at least.
>>18188083
You're just an emotionally-castrated paypig I guess.

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>>18187459
Being a holo will groom even the most atrocious shut-in neet girl into a normie and just by exposing themselves to normie society they will inevitably be found by a man who will pursue them.

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>>18188227
Whats the end game for kroni?

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>>18189095
suicide

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>>18189095
Depressed man-hating harpy with 6+ cats

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>>18179998
Just because you stopped believing in Santa Clause doesn't mean he was real before...

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>>18187459
It's impossible to confirm that they aren't. All they can say is that they aren't and hope people believe them if they're telling the truth.

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>>18179998
>Because it was REAL up until the yab.

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>>18188191
>now that hololive has a decently big audience of normalfags and reddit types, they want to get rid of gachikois
I hope they manage it only to learn that no normies dont spend money there is a reason all the big gaming company's have gone full gatcha/microtransactions.

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>>18190307
The games that make most money with microtransactions are the most normie games.

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>>18190780
>The games that make most money with microtransactions are the most normie games.
Yet only a tiny fraction of the players buy them and that small number of whales support the entire operation, Just like hololive.

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>>18187287
I WON'T FORGET TEXT TO SPEECH DEVICE

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I don't believe Kronii is a radical SJW. I just don't believe it.Fucking prove it to me!

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>>18192338
Do your reps, I'm not here to sponfeed you bad news. Just know that I'm sorry.

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>>18180177
Why the fuck do you people always talk about Transgender Women. What does it have to do with Rushia and why the fuck do you care what they are or aren't.

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>>18186727
normalfags are absolutely rude. People like you deserve to burn in a pyre

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>>18191063
If cover plays their hand right, they can and probably already are positively swimming in sponsorship money almost completely ignoring fan revenue, leaving it to girls as snack money.

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>>18192799
Go commit 41%, you're not wecome anywhere

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>>18180511
Any moid who'd read this would just set this aside while they laugh at your plight and reaffirms their belief that men like you don't deserve affection. Yes, women are eldritch abominations God made to punish men. It was Eve who gave Adam the forbidden fruit. They are satan's minions. It always was.

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>>18193541
No really. Tell me why

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How many people ardently defending Rushia have actually even sat through an entire Rushia stream?

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>>18180511
Sounds like you're ready to go full gay. Find some cute young twink and dress him up in trap/female cosplay and fuck the hell out of him. Instant happiness

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>>18180511

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>>18179998
Holy shit anon you are down bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty0mHm8WNdM

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>>18193867
One in ten have even seen more than two clips of her, I bet.
>>18193982
Faggots are even worse dramawhores than women anon, don't do this

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>>18193982
I don't think these people seek GFE because they want to have sex. They just want to be treated with love and affection, in which the indoctrinated modern femoid are incapable of

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>>18169274
holy victim complex

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>>18193867
90% of the posters who are in these drama threads have never done that either. Its all just games.

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>>18193867
none of these niggers even saw her constantly sperging about getting married and feeling envious at her friend's marriage reception party in her drinking streams

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>>18182775
Was there ever a point where Hololive wasn't pandering to GFE? Isn't Sora arguably GFE?

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>>18169121
Because one has to be insanely retarded to fall for such a blatant scam. I get it, there are thousands of affection starved people but going that far is not mentally healthy and just feeds a delusion that keeps gnawing on your mind every single day.

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>>18194302
Oh well, maybe I've just plain given up on love and affection then. Being emotionally numb has its benefits.

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>>18194929
You can still get these from females, anon. But you'll have to become someone totally different to get it, and learn to play the emotional game. We're all horrible people, but that's life

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>>18169121
I am going to make more fun of them.

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>>18180511
I'm glad I was here to witness a king

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>>18180511
so this is how /vt/ becomes /r9k/ 2 huh

[Anonymous No.]

We're at the point the old guard is being pushed out by the newcomers. The death of a hobby.

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Trannies, incels, and gachikois are all the same thing. Its like Fight Club- men raised by women will create a society that worships women. When a gullible man meets a woman who doesn't meet the expectations that society has created for him, he'll try to rectify that cognitive dissonance through one of three radical methods.
1. He'll troon out and become the girlfriend.
2. He'll become an incel and curse the girlfriend.
3. He'll become a gachikoi and worship a false idol of the girlfriend.
All three paths lead to self-mutilation and misery. The only solution is to cast aside your retarded preconceptions and start anew from the perspective that women are just as selfish, weak, and evil as you are- if not more so. You can still like women. You can still be a simp- even. Just don't put the pussy on a pedestal.

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>>18195340
Guess so, I'm a piece of shit too so I can't complain. Sure as hell won't get true love from a chuuba

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>>18196268
>Hobby attract shit ton of normalfags
>Waaa waa why is there so much normalfags
Wow anon, next you gonna say water is wet

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>>18196430
Why are normalfags watching anime girls play videogames

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>>18196297
I am getting more and more sure that there's either an organized tranny psyop ongoing or the SEAniggers have internalized the tranny shit
>>18196486
Normalfags of the 90's grew up watching anime on public tv anon

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>>18180511
This guy gets it.

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>>18196486
I just watch the funny rabbit do funny stuff

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>>18186278
Yeah, I thought this as well. She set the standard too high for what a vtuber should be.

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>>18170143
Not Fubuki, but Cover did.
When they started Hololive isolation, especially toward other male vtuber.

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>>18169201
I think OP meant the fans', not the streamer's.

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>>18169121
I won't make fun of them. I pity them. They are sad lonely men who found comfort in women peddling lies.
I only hope this incident has made them wake up and realize they shouldn't throw away their money on lying whores
Find comfort in anime. Anime won't betray you.

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>>18197467
when will elon musk make anime girls real?

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Society has no sympathy for men. A lonely sad vulnerable man is nothing but a target to mock and take advantage of. Our pain doesn't matter, to society we are garbage.

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>>18197661
Just wait for the next advancement in VR technology that lets you live in your own little world with your anime wife.
That's the dream that keeps me going

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>>18197775
like in the matrix but with waifu?
i hope i live long enough till that era.

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>>18169121
Hey, folks also love blaming the whales that uncontrollably spend thousands in gachas/lootboxes, when selling those are exploitative in the first place lmao

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>>18197775
At last, the red pill has cycled into becoming the blue pill

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>>18193819
They love fucking troons my gal

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>>18197467
>the actress playing a character as an anime girl on stream lied to me and manipulated me bro how was i supposed to know our relationship wasn't real?

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didn't read the whole thread but a friendly reminder that not only males are experiencing this kind of shit. pretty sure mafu fans are feeling the same right now

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>>18198639
>the actress playing a character
I've seen this shit posted like 100 times today, is this the new narrative now?
What happened to them all being real extensions of themselves like this board loves to say?

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>>18198812
You just know somewhere in Japan a girl has given up on real men after this and retreat to her otome games

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>>18198812
nobody is talking about mafu gachis because they're women

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>>18198865
>What happened to them all being real extensions of themselves like this board loves to say?
l
o
l

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>>18198812
yeah but it's socially acceptable to bully the shit out of male idolfans because muh mysoginy and patriarchy

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>>18170761
Fat men are equally as stupid. Just look at Nick Avocado

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>>18198639
>"""actress""" goes out of her way to make sure her fans really believe what she says
>what the fuck why would these people believe the poor innocent """actress""?!

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>>18197775
This is the only future. When we have that technology, all these girls will lose their gachikoi and their endlessly deep wallets and they'll have to work for a living.

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>>18198988
I bully both, I don't care about what some women on twitter or journalists say

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>>18169121
You are not allowed to like anything
EVER

Welcome to ironic weeb hell

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>>18198900
>>18198927
>>18198988
it's just sad state of affairs truly. i don't partake but i understand why people fell in the pitfall we call parasocial relationship.

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>>18199152
>implying girls won't also retreat to fantasy men

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>>18197689
Pretty much. I'm sorry bro, there's literally no safety net for you as there is for women, and every single one that appear will want to extort something from you.
>>18197775
>>18199152
All of us will be dead before that technology hits, anon. I'm sorry.

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死ねよ、お宅達。

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>>18199192
you can't bully a fujo and her retarded actions under your real name.

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>>18199142
>actress maintains roleplay
>retards think it's not roleplay

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>>18199152
Hate to break it to you guys, but this is exactly why women will never let it happen. They're already aggressively fighting the creation of sexbots

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>>18199340
you can do it as long as you paint her into being homophobic for fetishizing gay men, I have seen it

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>>18199282
I'm sure they will too, but that won't be any loss at that point.
>>18199320
I'm dead at that point it's all right, as long as I don't have to live here anymore without my escapist fantasy.

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>>18199363
>""actress"" says she wants to marry one of her fans on her personal non-corporate account
>it's just roleplay women can do no wrong chud!!

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>>18199493
that's not bullying. That's enforcing the progressive religion

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>>18199430
I'm scared of sexbots because what if they malfunction and I lose my dick?

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This event led me to seeing her superchat numbers for the first time, which is over 3 M$. Since that doesn't even include memberships, merchandise, or any other income, then even after corp cuts and taxes, as long as she didn't blow it all on cocaine and gacha, she could actually retire today and still be fine.

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>>18180511
screenshotted for future generations. we really need to get back to shaming whores and their cuck enablers.

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>>18199575
>roleplay anime girl voice actress schtick is gfe
>gives out toy wedding rings as a gimmick for merch to thousands of people
>wtf you mean to tell me we're not really married?

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Ironically, those who think fandeads actually saw Rushia as their girlfriend are far more retarded than the people they are trying to mock.
Of course nobody saw it that way.
However, in idol culture, loneliness is a compromise towards your fans. Once you reveal you have someone else in your life, that means you don't need them anymore.
Of course getting discarded hurts.

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>>18180511
I'm here for ya ojisan
see you tomorrow

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>>18199430
Have more faith anonchama. Activist women couldn't prevent porn, and though they succeeded at implementing Prohibition for a while, that fell through because society collectively realized how shitty it was. Their efforts will fail in the end.

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>>18180511
actually unironically based and redpilled

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>>18199795
>Of course nobody saw it that way.

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>>18173135
Fool, the majority of hololive's income still comes from the JP gachikois. If you're just looking at things like reddit upvotes and sub counts, that doesn't mean shit because every JP gachikoi will superchat 10x more than the average casual fag who watchs gooruh or mori etc

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>>18199936
Link a single person that did, brainlet.
Just one will do.
I'll wait.

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>JUST LOOK AT REDDIT

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>>18178539
>>18179998
>>18181862
Don't listen to normalfags, they're still used to western whores being able to do whatever with no consequence. Rushia played with fire and has no one to blame but herself

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>>18169201
fpbp

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>>18180511
put me in the screencap

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>>18200002
/vt/.
>there are no insane gachikoi
>i've just been discarded as a fan
>but also cucked because shes fucking her bf
Just because they have a standard for professionalism to maintain the illusion of pure idol waifu doesn't mean it's not delusional to think they aren't taking dick off stream.

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>>18180511
lol this is the most incel thing ever literally touch grass + not reading + L + touch ass + ratio + i had sex + ur a virgin + i'm trans btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>18196553
It is now trendy and increasingly popular to watch anime girls play videogames, so normalfags are infesting the hobby en masse to score good goy social credits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18196486
It is now trendy and increasingly popular to watch anime girls play videogames, so normalfags are infesting the hobby en masse to score good goy social credits

[Anonymous No.]

>>18199966
>10x
try fucking 100s of times. It's not about what the majority of people want, it's about what the 1% who actually pay.

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>>18180511
Well, what else can I say?
Based.

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>>18179998

Buying into the GFE is like buying a discount parachute off of Ali-baba and actually using it to skydive. As we see here ONE little technical fuck-up and it all comes crashing down. Arguably the parachute SHOULD have worked but you’re a retard for thinking it really would.

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>>18199681
Can't you screenshot it in a non-retarded res?

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>>18174672
[bikecuck meme here]

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It's pretty clear that a lot of vtuber fans are the kind of people who think the stripper actually likes them, were they not too autistic to ever go to a strip club.

Like many digital markets, the only thing that's changed is the ability to scale.

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>>18201005
how about now?

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>>18201332
>went from 1872x386 to 1875x379
Here, anon.

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>>18201005

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>>18185113

>a feminist

Consider suicide boomer

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>>18201005

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>>18169121
You're just too innocent for this cruel world, fellow onigirya

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>>18174476
>okayu goslinposter
explain

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>>18180511
poor guy, his heart is broken, just like mine

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>>18185981

It’s because people think conservative societies treated women like cattle rather than precious children. But a lot of conservatives are simps in denial. They really do think men should always sacrifice themselves for women. They think it’s proper that a man should break his back in a coal-mine and have black lungs by 40. So long as his wife has the housework done and dinner served when he gets home. Over time, the demands on women got smaller and smaller and today they’re lower than they’ve ever been. Conservative men don’t dare demand more and conservative women won’t because they don’t have to. They still demand men be traditional though, because none conservatives don’t give a shit about demands on men.

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>>18175622
>poc false equivalence
american culture has been studied for decades from the perspective of social psychology and its undeniable at this point that theres only 2 moral matrices out of the 5 that americans are able to operate in. harm/care and fairness/unfairness. They, in the literal sense, cannot explain or empathize with people operating in the other 3 moral foundations loyalty, authority, and sanctity. when people say its a japanese thing so you wouldnt understand it, they are entirely correct, you do not operate in a culture sensitive to these same moral foundations.

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>>18203636
>>18202063
Thank you both, this is better

[Anonymous No.]

>>18181862
uhh... y-yeah, it was just pretending to be... umm.. cucks on /jp/...