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WHERE WERE ALL THESE RUSHIA DEFENDERS WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED AND ALOE GRADUATED???

>> No.18276864

>>18276816
There weren't probably /here/ kek

>> No.18276866

Who?

>> No.18276890

people are defending rushia?

>> No.18277227

>>18276890
if you go on twitter every tweet that says people that care about this don't have sex get thousands of likes

>> No.18277336

>>18277227
They're right you worthless fucking losers.

>> No.18277423

>>18277227
I don't agree with them but if idolpigs get culled then maybe vtubing will go back to the golden age

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>>18276816
This is all my fault I can't save everyone

>> No.18277926

It's almost like Aloe barely had a fanbase to begin with.

>> No.18279833

You think I didn't fucking try you cunt? I only hold so much power. but im happy now that she has recovered from it and she's about to release another original song.

>> No.18283018

>>18277423
what is the golden age counted as? gamers? gen 3? gen 4?

>> No.18283115

>>18277227
ok but they can't be right about everything

>> No.18283134

>>18277227
most they dont ever have viewed rushia

>> No.18283199

>>18276816
You think all these people who are concerned about Rushia watch Hololive the way we do? Get real. They're only agreeing for clout.

>> No.18283296

>>18276816
>implying that people defending someone from being drowned in bullshit over literally nothing could have done anything about someone's stepdad threatening grevious bodily harm
you need meds too. what precisely do you think randoms on the internet could have done about kusodad? are you just some retard who doesn't do his reps and thinks that there was anything else involved?

>> No.18283305

>>18276816
You act as if Aloe didn't have an entire army or organized retards ready to suck her off at a moment's notice back in the day.
Aloe was a menhera who decided to quit on her own the second she was doxxed because she thought she'd cause issues to the company.

>> No.18283378

>>18276816
If you think about drama chasers I guess hololive still wasn't relevant enough or known enough in the Western sphere for any grifter other than Hero Hei I guess.

>> No.18283416

>>18283305
I mean she still have simps paying for her life and art, apparently she even talked about the hololive trauma with her terapist.

>> No.18283485

>>18276816
Rushia antis are going to accomplish nothing. just like nothing would have been accomplished with aloe no matter how many complainers there were
Thinking keyboard warriors who complain on twitter can do anything proves your newfaggotry

>> No.18283581

>>18277336
They are literally underage 14 year old trannies, LGBT correlates strongly with not getting sex unless you're literally a gay guy going from club to club each night (which these little faggots aren't doing). You are morally and intellectually on the side of middle schoolers brainwashed by tiktok.

>> No.18283658

>>18276816
Aloe was an actual lying whore.

>> No.18283718

>>18283658
So is Rushia anon.

>> No.18283723
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>>18277423
>>18283018
>the golden age
Siro and .LIVE were part of the early era of vtubing and they explicitly had an idol club. Sora is based on Ai and is an idol. Ai herself was ripping off Miku if you can rip off a program pretending to be an idol and Ai does idolesque lives now.

Where is the "time when vtubing had no idols at all and was just manly men farting on each other in second life"?

>> No.18285107

>>18283658
And Rushia, which has been in a secret relationship since AT LEAST 2018, isn't?

>> No.18285186

>>18285107
prove it retard, and not just schizo circumstantial 'evidence'

>> No.18285189

>>18285107
>relationship
citation needed

>> No.18285222

>>18283199
>1000 unrelated twitter idiots are supporting you
>the 10 people who actually buy your product don't
TALE AS OLD AS TIME

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aloe didn't get any clips, that's why.

>> No.18285314

>>18285186
>>18285189
>>/vt/
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/

Take your pick.

>> No.18285349

>>18285314
No you got nothing, cool.

>> No.18285415

>>18285349
Is this enough or are you so handicapped I need to spoonfeed you on every single little detail?
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/search/text/rushia%202018/

>> No.18285443

>>18276816
?? Can you elaborate more, please?

>> No.18285468 [DELETED] 

>>18276816
Aloe had a mass of defenders too, it's Aloe herself who threw in the towel

>> No.18285472

>>18285415
Yep, nothing but speculation.
Might as well post Aqua's JAV, Peko & Jun and Miko is a single mother rrats.

>> No.18285485

>>18285443
a chilean is still angry that he never got the chance to shit up aloe's chat.

>> No.18285541

>>18285314
my fucking sides

>> No.18285564

>>18285472
>Yep, nothing but speculation
There's two Twitter links on the first page, from before Rushia became a vtuber, that confirms they're in a relationship. Of course no matter what proof I show you'll just brush it off as "speculation", so it doesn't matter. Indisputable proof popped up in the middle of a stream? Speculation, it didn't happen, etc. Rushia said it herself? Fake, that's a voice changer, you're insane, etc.

>> No.18285586

i tried. it didn't matter in the end because the majority believed *eddit to ignore the problems and everything will be fine.
same thing when coco incident happened.

>> No.18285605

>>18285472
This furniture shit is literally on the same level as Peko & Jun shit. Only thing that gets added on top are the messages and that only proofs that they are friends at least

>> No.18285665

>>18285564
>that confirms they're in a relationship
No, it doesn't.

Being friends =/= being in a relationship and your "indisputable proof" is literally nothing.

>> No.18285687

>>18285564
Anon. Do you believe Pekora is Jun wifes also?
I bet you dont actually know who he is since you dont actually watch JPs nor know Japanese

>> No.18285776

>>18285665
>t-they're just friends!
Hilarious. Cover's PR team is trying real hard to cover all their bases.

>> No.18285804

>>18285776
I accept your concession, nijisister.

>> No.18285858 [DELETED] 

>>18276816
holoEN wasn't made yet so no one out of Japan gave a shit

>> No.18285865

>>18276816
If you're talking about people on twitter, they made the Aloe situation worse too.

>> No.18285877

>>18285687
No, because that's easy to disprove. Same with the Aqua JAV rrat. This isn't.
>>18285804
Did the textbook say blaming the competition was a good idea?

>> No.18285924

>>18285877
Disprove it then.

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>>18276816
Do your reps faggot OP

>>18285564
Kek, this is literally /who/ all over again
>so what if they have the same pc specs, its coincidence!
>they don't have the same voice, you're just hearing things!
>SHE deleted her bf tweets after Mumei debuted because /vt/ harassed her!
>l-let them print haha...

>> No.18285952

>>18285877
The "competition" is to blame:
>>>18282566

>> No.18286015

>>18285945
they didn't have the same PC specs though, unless you believe that she downgraded her rig just to hide her tracks, in which case the LEX memes are right and she deserves the fame.

>> No.18286051

>>18285924
Pekora was streaming Ark at the same time Jun was playing Apex with his wife. Same with the Aqua JAV, I don't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure the girl in the JAV went to Disneyland while Aqua was streaming. That's indisputable proof, because it's impossible to be in two places at the same time.
>>18285952
Take your meds.

>> No.18286060

>>18286015
At this point its not a rrat anymore and even owlpals accepted its her

>> No.18286089

>>18286051
>Pekora was streaming Ark at the same time Jun was playing Apex with his wife. Same with the Aqua JAV, I don't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure the girl in the JAV went to Disneyland while Aqua was streaming. That's indisputable proof, because it's impossible to be in two places at the same time.
so without that proof. You would've believed it? You must've had if you believe in this Rushia thing

>> No.18286116

>>18286089
>so without that proof
But he provided proof, why are you even going into a hypothetical? Are you this autistic?

>> No.18286134

>>18286089
>You would've believed it
Sure, it would have been ambiguous at best. I totally believe Gura and Jay are together, for example. I really don't see how you can assume the best in this situation.

>> No.18286169

>>18286134
>Sure, it would have been ambiguous at best
then you are actually retarded

>> No.18286193

>>18285945
What happened with mumei? I can't keep up with this shit anymore.

>> No.18286271

>>18286051
Rushia lived in the countryside, this is verifiable, her 3D streams were none existent due to that at the beginning. Mafumafu Tokyo. Rushia finally moved directly next to Coco's house.
Mafumafu has moved constantly, multiple times. He moved a few months before Rushia moved to near the Kanacoco house, a few months after she did, and then moved again a few months after that. His moving schedule disproves him actually living with Rushia for any amount of time. Especially not in 2018 when she lived far from Tokyo.

>> No.18286281

>>18286193
Nothing really, just the PL stuff we knew since her debut

>> No.18286309

>>18286169
You can be careful in believing the "wild rrats" this board shits out on a regular basis but the Rushia situation is so unambiguous there's no way you can say they're "just friends". That's a coping mechanism.
>>18286271
I can't be bothered to look this up, but they're living together now. That's a fact. Look at the Discord message.

>> No.18286345

>>18286271
People really underestimate how much people know about these people. There is a reason why JPs are silent now, because if they dont live together, them being friends is plausible and the only source that was supposed to proof that they are a couple didnt proof it

>> No.18286396

>>18286309
>I can't be bothered to look this up, but they're living together now. That's a fact. Look at the Discord message.
isnt this just a cope. The furniture shit goes out of the window with that and only thing you now have is the message which is ambigious. It doesnt say they are living together.

>> No.18286406

>>18286345
Sure it's plausible, but unless they like the NTR feeling I don't expect many of her actual paying customers to stick round desu.

>> No.18286466

>>18286396
>The furniture shit goes out of the window with that
It doesn't. Those images still exist. You can lie about living in a specific place or moving, these people know what they're doing is wrong. I would expect them to have decent opsec.

>> No.18286475

>>18286406
Except her gachis seem to be holding the line pretty well and expressing support for her. Of course, they are waiting for her to come out but I doubt it can get any worse now

>> No.18286486

>>18286309
>I can't be bothered to look this up, but they're living together now. That's a fact. Look at the Discord message.
japanese doesn't distinguish between "I'm coming home" (implying they share a house) and "I'm going home" (which could be an entirely different location to the person you're talking to). The discord message proves nothing.

>> No.18286493

>>18286309
When I arranged a time to play gartic phone with my friends a few weeks ago, one of my friends discord messaged me that he was just now coming back home from his work shift right before we started since I told him beforehand we were going to play at 9pm.
Does my friend live with me? Have you never had arrangements with friends? Do your friends not have jobs and just are constantly free?

>> No.18286526

>>18286493
>Does my friend live with me
If there's evidence going back to 2018 of you living together, probably. Especially if you freak the fuck out and threaten suicide on Twitter after the message gets leaked.

>> No.18286542

>>18286466
>I would expect them to have decent opsec.
yeah well given how literally every roommate out there is known and all their past shit is known. They dont. Most dont even give a shit since its merely a company policy for the most part to keep roommate stuff hidden, its an open secret.
This shit literally happened because they dont. It was literally a discord message popup on her official account on stream from a non-hololive staff/member/etc

>> No.18286553

>>18286475
Idk I guess we will see. I don't particularly care either way desu.

>> No.18286577

>>18286542
>It was literally a discord message popup on her official account on stream from a non-hololive staff/member/etc
And we've never seen those before because... uh... they have shit opsec? If you were semi-popular on any platform before you debuted of course people are going to find you, even if it's by voice alone.

>> No.18286605

>>18286526
>Especially if you freak the fuck out and threaten suicide on Twitter after the message gets leaked.
now this is a weak argument anon. Assume she knows she hasnt done anything wrong, the situation looks bad for her and trying to explain it on the spot doesnt help at all.
Also the management doesnt allow her to speak at this point. It isnt up to her right now.

>> No.18286607

>>18283305
>who decided to quit on her own
Not until you post video evidence with biometric identification will I believe this.

>> No.18286611

HOLY SHIT BOIS SHE'S BACK

>> No.18286696

>>18286605
>the situation looks bad for her and trying to explain it on the spot doesnt help at all
"Oh, yeah, I was going to play Apex with him later, we're not dating."
That wasn't very hard. You could release the chat log to immediately disprove all rrats, even if you doctor it that's at least some evidence in your favor.

>> No.18286803

>>18286696
Seriously anon. It really isnt that simple. The shitstorm would've happened even if she spoke out on the spot. You make it sound so simple, but it really isnt. They are corporate chuubas anyway. Her speaking out like that will get her in trouble anyway.
>You could release the chat log to immediately disprove all rrats, even if you doctor it that's at least some evidence in your favor.
Again. She isnt allowed.

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>>18283723
I'm pretty sure Kizuna Ai wasn't marketed as an idol

>> No.18286861

>>18286803
Hololive management is so fucking lazy and incompetent that I could totally believe she's not allowed to defuse the situation with a simple statement like that. You got me, anon.

>> No.18287023

>>18286833
Pmaru and Ai do idolish things but will also deny being a vtuber. All of the complaints about idol culture come purely from people who think being a whore is a good thing. And when things collapse because no one wants to give money to whores, they'll ask why the 'incels' ruined 'their' hobby?

>> No.18287127

>>18285299
/thread

>> No.18287918

>>18287023
If the industry collapses because "OMG SHE HAS A BF OMG" then yes, incels ruined it.

>> No.18287939

>>18283658
if you think rushia and him aren't lying when it's almost confirmed they live together because they have the same furniture I don't know what to tell you

>> No.18288409

>>18276816
Unironically Aloe graduation is helping Rushia right now. That graduation created quite large saviour syndrome in hololive fandom, that now wants heavily to avoid another "Aloe situation".

>> No.18288462

>>18287918
They're the people that keep the industry afloat. No sane person would drop 4-5 digit figures on someone just because they're entertaining. "Love" keeps the gears oiled and turning.

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VALENTINES DAY FEB 14 ALOES COMING BACK TO TAKE OVER RUSHIAS 2D WHILE RUSHIA GRADUATES
SCREENSHOT THIS POST

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>tourists not knowing why Aloe actually quit and using her as a convenient tool to build up their little incel boogeyman
Twitter trannies, femcels, please take your own advice and touch grass

>> No.18289279

>>18288462
Yeah, those people who drop troll akas, like the dead dog one surely are top incels looking for gfe.

>> No.18290726

>>18286833
I think they tried at the beginning but gave up

>> No.18290971

>>18277227
And guess what? None of them matter because they aren’t the ones donating to her or viewing her content.

>> No.18291017

>>18276816
They don't defend the actual victims.

>> No.18292664

>>18285865
how?

>> No.18294795

>>18283115
they aren't ever right

>> No.18295189

>>18290971
Anon, take a look at the numberfag thread. I know it's filled with tribalism and shitposts, but there are actual data here and there. Long story short, fandeads have actually been rushing to buy shit tons of Rushia's merchs since, likely to show their supports (since I doubt whiteknights would have spent that much money). A lot of JP Fandeads in that WeLoveRushia tag showed that they bought her ring before and they are trusting, loving and supporting her.
I can't tell how it will be in the long term when it comes to Rushia's GFE game, but at least in short term, it has actually been beneficial for Rushia so far (financially at least)

>> No.18295527

>>18292664
NTA and it has been a while so I'm not totally sure if it was "people on Twitter". However
>Aloe's situation was dying down during her (forced) break.
>Cover's measure (which was a common method to deal with scandals by idol groups) was working and might have worked in the end at that rate.
>MASSfags decided to start a pointless and fruitless crusade against nips in the latter's ground and reignited the whole things, turned it from harassment for shit and giggles into a we vs them for most of nips antis and well, everything went to shit afterwards.
That was a clear example of whiteknighting goes wrong

>> No.18298926

People defended Aloe to back then you newfag nig

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Please do not use my oshi to shitpost, thank you.

>> No.18301080

>>18285299
first off she did have clips but secondly it was literally a week before she left so no shit she doesn't have that many clips about her and considering this was before EN there weren't 50 channels to translate the same clip 5 minutes after it was said into English

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