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So is this situation going to change the viability of gfe or is everything going to go back to normal in a few days?

>> No.18280122

>>18279808
Some gfe chuubas have been referencing it lately, to try to maybe set some boundaries. One said "I know how much you guys love me and I will never take that for granted. NEVER." Aside from that it's been the usual.

>> No.18280121

>>18279808
You seriously learned nothing about this situation?

>> No.18280234

>>18279808
Did that Akiba woman shaving her head change anything?

>> No.18281148

/vt/ will be the only place to care in less than a month.

>> No.18281313

>>18279808
It's too profitable

>> No.18281320

Rushia's status as the GFE queen will go down the drain and we'll have to crown someone else, but nothing more. In fact it's possible her income won't vary as much, but that depends on how cucked the JP fanbase is.
Will have to tune in on her next stream to find out.

>> No.18281540

>>18279808
>women
>being accountable for anything
It's like you people never learn. No, nothing will change.

>> No.18282228

>>18281320
Who will be the next GFE queen?

What are your candidates, anons?

>> No.18282415

>>18282228
my only hope is that rushia tanks on SC, to motivate loyal GFEs, if shes still queen, its done, all GFEs wont even bother staying single

>> No.18282463

>>18282228
Either Nene or Lamy

>> No.18282644

>>18281148
While simultaneously taking the blame for the whole thing, as per usual.

>> No.18282982

>>18279808
It won't change shit. GFE attracts retards. Retards are retarded. It's just shitposting topic of the week.

>> No.18283292

>>18280122
So, your example is someone that set a boundary, when clearly she is using the Rushia situation to get even more sucker paypigs that is clearly not soneone setting boundaries

>> No.18284240

>>18282415
>Believes any of the current GFE VTubers are single
Keep huffing that copium, anon

>> No.18284440

>>18281540
Nothing will change because lonely virgins will still exist and will still think they can get love through the internet with donations.

>> No.18284588

>>18280122
your example is functionally the opposite of setting a boundary.

>> No.18284674

>>18284588
Its jarring that he makes the same mistake as the fandeads. Instead of accepting that the vtuber is a fantasy and that the actress is not tied to the fantasy, he goes all in on the identification of the two and so sets himself for future disappointment.

>> No.18284698

>>18279808
GFE is why a lot of corpos are still alive and why indies have a lot of money. It's too profitable to die down. It's not going anywhere.

>> No.18284894

>>18284588
Only if you're a Redditor who subconsciously blocks the idea of behavioral boundaries for the roommate. Or a disillusioned unicorn, in which case I'm sorry.

>> No.18284953

its a big nothing burger
feel free to laugh at me when russia invades Ukraine.

>> No.18285048

>>18284894
>Believing that she was setting a behavioural boundary by saying that, and not saying it to keep and get more paypigs
Anon...

>> No.18285055

>>18279808
Hololive will tighten the leash. Between this and Calli, there's been too much backlash from idolfags. The Japanese branch will be fine with it but the english vtubers will have a tougher time. They're the risk takers, while the Japs play it safe anyway. As well as that, theres going to be at least one company meeting about opsec.

>> No.18285093

>>18284894
But the vtuber getting more and more GFE is not a boundary, it is more committal to the role. The boundary we are talking about in this thread is between the vtuber and the audience.

>> No.18285105

>>18279808
This is the new normal

>> No.18285680

>>18284440
Why do they think that, anon? Could it be that vtubers, like Rushia, who exploit the people who already exist like this possibly perpetuate the problem? Nah, women never do anything wrong.

>> No.18285794

>>18279808
idk but it hasn't changed how much I want to beat up kiara

>> No.18285892

>>18280122
source?

>>18282415
rushia is actually, unironically single, even the older evidence is just mass-produced utensils/plates plus them both using a paper towel roll as a cat scratcher. even if she isn't, the vast majority of fandeads and mafumafu fans have bought the denial

>> No.18285910

>>18280234
Kind of, actually. AKB hasn't given nearly as much of a fuck about dating scandals on a management level since. The head shaving girl herself ended up being the longest tenured member of the group and in left with a huge graduation concert and in a position of respect. Not that you'll hear any of this from the uninformed people who use her to prove points on the internet, of course.

>> No.18286377

Everything is going back to normal.

The normalfags will find a new shiny subject to virtual signaling about and all will abandon this drama, just like when they "help" Holostar. It is all fake, none of them really care.

Society doesn't change or do anything to help the loser males, unicorn or gachis, all they get out of this is more sadness and depression everyone since everyone keeps on shitting on them. So, to cope with it, some may find a new hobby but most will find a new GFE vtuber and, tell themselves that she won't betray them this time.

With that, in turn, it will help give birth to more new GFE vtuber, who will be ready to catch that new wave of lonely unicorns.

And with that, the circle begin a new.

>> No.18286419

>>18279808
Business as usual baybee!
Want to know something really funny? The engagement rings have still been selling throughout the whole shitfest. Some anon in the numbers thread has been keeping track of Hololive merch sold.

>> No.18286479
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18286479

>>18286377
>>18286419
Wind blows. Rain falls. The strong prey upon the weak. All is as it should be.

>> No.18286503

The only person it could have an impact on is Rushia herself. People still go on dates even if they know people or have been personally cheated on.

>> No.18286681

>>18286503
When 100% of people going on dates get cheated on and realize that they will get cheated on, you start to wonder if maybe the concept itself is fucking retarded. Maybe they are just into being cheated on in the end?

>> No.18287183
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>>18279808
it will be the never ending cycle, an ouroboros
>GFE queen arises
>GFE queen gains tons of support from lonely men
>the yab happens that eventually ruins her, probably a boyfriend yab
>damage control from twittards and normies who dont understand that GFE fans legitimately in need of mental support and that the GFE queen is the true enemy
>a spot for a new GFE queen is open
>repeat until vtubing is dead (never)

>> No.18287691

>>18285892
>rushia is actually, unironically single
Holy cope batman. I don't even think this mafumafu fucktard is her actual BF and this specific event is literally nothing, but if you think the actor behind Rushia isn't getting deep-dicked by 1 or more other guys on the regular, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

>> No.18287769

What GFEtubers will learn from this situation is how to manipulate your audience into becoming devoted enough to not care even if something like this happens

>> No.18287801

>>18280122
I don't think the word boundary means what you think it means. Fubuki set a boundary. What you just described is absolutely no boundary.

>> No.18287890

>>18287769
>becoming devoted enough to not care even if something like this happens
When like 90% of all IRL women are in relationships, the assumption SHOULD be that the VA is already getting regular dick. The GFE is with the character, not the VA, so you SHOULDN'T care if something like this happens.

>> No.18288118

>>18287890
>When like 90% of all IRL women are in relationships

If almost all women are in relationships, and the distribution of sexes is 50/50, that'd mean almost all men would be also in relationships (assuming a clean 1-to-1 mapping). Which of course they aren't. So that means either that not all women are in relationships, or that multiple women think they are in a relationship with the same fewer guys, for there to be also "leftover males".

>> No.18288285

>>18288118
>that'd mean almost all men would be also in relationships (assuming a clean 1-to-1 mapping)
It's not 1-to-1 mapping though, most unmarried men who are romantically successful have 2+ women they are seeing at any given time, tons of them have more. I'd estimate an average of 1.5 - 1 so if 90% of women are involved but only ~60% of men are. This is why GFE is popular and lucrative.

>> No.18288334

>>18279808
People will either rethink their approach to opsec or just tone it down if they have something to hide or in the case of those who are actually nutcases they will either develop trust issues with their audience and burn themselves out over it, or embrace it even more if they trust their audience.
But for the most part nothing will really change for the majority.

>> No.18288359

>>18288285
>I'd estimate
What are your credentials?

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18288560

>>18287890
>The GFE is with the character, not the VA
NOW vtubers are characters, not 'streamers with an avatar'. Great! Better to learn this now than later.

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18288656

>>18286377
Sad and lucid

>> No.18292014

>>18279808
>all the yabs ever happened in vtubing had already happened before in idol industry
>idol industry still running fine today
tale your guess if this is gonna change anything

>> No.18292121

Preying on mental illness is not going away, it's too profitable and this backlash is on the level of nothingburger to deter anyone

>> No.18293139

>>18292121
>Preying on mental illness is not going away
Preying on lonely men and making megabucks with whiteknights as back up if you fuck up sounds like every womens dream

>> No.18294151

>>18279808
There are some fundamental underlying realities that won't be affected by outrage:

There is a huge demand for GFE, since men are lonely. Those that deliver the best GFE will receive the highest superchats from their paypiggies. The former necessitates hiding your relationship status, pandering to the paypigs. Obviously vtubers 'could' reveal all about themselves, the economic imperatives will drive them not to. Twitter can cry and moan all they want about it, ultimately, the people keeping this entire business model afloat are the crazies - not the #ThoughtsAndPrayers type of people signalling their outrage over misogyny.

Yes, everything will return to normal. VTubers will keep lying to their audiences, their audiences will keep buying those lies and reward them in superchats.

>> No.18295352 [DELETED] 

>>18282228
Lamy

>> No.18295470

>>18279808
>viability

implying this ever existed

>> No.18295531

>>18279808
Already returning to normal among jps and no one care about eops.

>> No.18295577

>it'll go back to normal
The top gfe vtuber in the world is more than likely skipping valentines day. That's not normal.

>> No.18295840

>>18279808
Anon, there have been dozens thousands of similar scandal in idol industry in the past decade or two. One of AKB's most popular idol of all time got into a dating and allegedly sex scandal (got a photo of her and a guy entering a hotel). Do you think that changed anything?
Well, if you can't tell, the idol industry is still going on strong, and that AKB idol got a massive comeback and became the first member who won their yearly popularity contest 3 times in a row (she lost only a single time to AKB's *the* idol, but never to anyone else afterwards)

>> No.18296164

>>18287691
Hey now we didn't say anything about cock carousels, just that she's most likely single.

>> No.18296546

>>18295840
Yeah, but vtubers aren't like idols or e-thots. People like them for their genuine personality, and they have management and cultural norms to keep them from doing anything stupid.

t. /jp/ and reddit in 2019

>> No.18296934

>>18285892
Even if it's true, one look at mafumafu and I say he doesn't count because a girl would have to be gay to fuck him.

>> No.18297635

I just don't understand how this happens. Obviously GFE is a ploy to get money from people but how does it develope into a yab like this? These girls get their own PCs, avatars, new names, backstories to hide behind. It's not like Pokimane who streams her own life. How the fuck do you get caught? Like what the fuck? How retarded do you have to be? If I was a girl and a vtuber I can guarantee I'd be taking dick constantly and none of you would ever hear so much as a peep about it.

>> No.18298584

>>18279808
this isn't the first time something like this happened and it won't be the last. It'll just make people pause for a bit before going back into old patterns.

>> No.18298896

>>18296546
>genuine personality

>> No.18298996

>>18279808
It was funny to see the gfe tubers smell blood and start sending messages to Rushia's biggest whales to get a piece of the money for themselves.

>> No.18299723

>>18286419
Holy shit I need numbers

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