/ahoy/ - 宝鐘マリン Houshou Marine

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Previous thread
>>19281940

Marine Artbook on sale now
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4049142074

Holofes 3 - Link Your Wish; tickets available now
https://hololivesuperexpo.hololivepro.com

Winter voice pack on sale until the end of the month
https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/hololive_christmasvoice2021

Valentine's voice pack now on sale
https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/hololive_valentinevoice2022

Ahoy
https://youtu.be/e7VK3pne8N4

Unison
https://youtu.be/_VIeV_LZXHM

Sankisei first original song Interact Fantasia
https://youtu.be/F61eDAXtmnw

SKDW Hibiki radio
https://hibiki-radio.jp/description/skdw/detail

Maruyama every fortnight
https://youtu.be/wdWtFQNayIA

Twitter
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine

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>>19342429
This really shouldn't be as big of an ask as it is

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I can’t believe i missed the last thread you guys finally had interesting things to say…
ANAL MASSAGE FOR MARINE LONG TIME

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>>19356117
Which one, the doom posting, the schizo hours, or the dating advice?

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>>19358202
im the concernfag in the last one,leave just before shizo comes in. well, i m in office now , rest time. whats new?

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>>19307130
>working out
hmm? has she changed her tune again?

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>>19313668
>>19242191
I hope she'll still stream occasionally even after marriage.
current frequency would be fine.

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New members post lads

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>>19359830
I think she doesn't have any studio work until 3rd Fes, but also doesn't want to stream

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>>19359830
Probably doesn't have any recordings until 3rd Fes is over, but also doesn't want to stream
and/or choreography is getting too intense for her

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>>19362248
last time, she gave up pretty soon. we'll see how long it lasts.

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>>19362395
I suspect the latter
quitting probably isn't an option if she wants to do a sololive, dancing/singing on a stage for over an hour isn't easy...

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>>19362248
>>19315046
>>19315911
man, why do the good streamers have to tire of streaming.

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>>19363474
it's a mental thing, Mio actually talked about this on stream how they all live in a mindset that next streams has to be better than previous one.
Obviously, infinite improvement is practically impossible and it eventually drives them to burnout.

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Is Marine cute?

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>>19253801
hallelujah!

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>>19253801
ha, I was just about to ask what exactly she said about skirts and loafers.

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>>19353782
Is it just me or is Marine the most bullyable holomem? I just want to endlessly berate her until she melts into a sobbing mess.

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I thought she had a collab today?

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>>19367478
very

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>>19369392
Members post man

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>>19369057
That is part of the image she's trying to build, yes

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>>19353968
>>19364095
>how they all live in a mindset that next streams has to be better than previous one.
Lmao now I know that's not true for at a third of them.

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>>19370602
Shit only meant to (you)
>>19364095

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>>19363474
I don’t know, we’ve been coming up with rrats and reasons about why she won’t stream anymore for a few threads now. There’s nothing more to say about it other than waiting for news from her I guess. It sucks, but clearly something is going on that makes her not want to stream.

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>>19371174
Lets be honest here, she was never that active as a streamer anyways, and considering what happened the last time she tried to power through her throat issues to stream I'm kinda glad she isn't forcing herself this time

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>>19371229
Yeah that’s very true. Plus as much as I hate to say it she made USD $26k in superchats this month alone and she barely did anything. She could very well start coasting like Ayame does and keep on making bank. Nothing is forcing her to come back.

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>>19371174
>something is going on that makes her not want to stream.
That's fairly simple, in her own words she doesn't see streaming as "job"(more of a fun past time)
and since Manager is babysitting her voice use hours now, she has to pick how to use the hours; "Job" or streaming

but on the other hand, she doesn't get get her attention fix from the "job"

so you can see the chicken-egg issue here

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Marine should stop fucking around and just have the fucking surgery and take it easy for at least two months without working in the studio, yeah that's going to stunt her growth but it's still better than doing some streaming/recording, fucking up her throat again and then having to rest indefinitely again.
I don't know why she's so reluctant to avoid surgery, yes her voice is going to change a bit but come the fuck on, it's not like it's going to sound worse than it does now, just look at suisei she stopped doing that retarded shoujo voice and now she sounds sexier and her growth never stopped.
I'm in love with Marine and i would love to marry her but if I were her close to her IRL I would slap her hard to finally get her to react and do the things she have to do.

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>>19371845
What is her job then? Recordings?

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>>19372965
Pleasing her hubby

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>>19263401
gonna post this again, since it got buried in bullshit towards the end there.

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>>19373133
That hubby? Me

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>>19371229
there was a time she was pretty active

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>>19373165
I skimmed through a pretty large amount of the replies and didn't see a single one

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>>19313375
hmm, what would it be like to interact with kid/teen Marine.

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>>19373375
great, she seemed like a lot of fun back then

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stream was cancelled today because the collab partners couldn't make it

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>>19374162
How does that happen lol

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Watching flare play RE but I wish senchou would stream

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>>19374413
multi person collabs are harder to organise

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>>19375038
Wasn’t she only collabing with Pekora?

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>>19375123
not today

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>>19375123
Today was supposed to be a raft collab with Lui, Chloe and Koyori but the last two couldn't make it today

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that Mori stream was somewhat cringe, even beyond the parts intentionally so.

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>>19375385
>>19375471
Oh! Much more understandable then!

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>>19372277
I haven't actually heard her talk about it on stream (not saying she hasn't; I just haven't seen it myself) but she had thyroid surgery in the past, and that experience might be what is causing her to be so reluctant about getting surgery on her throat.

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>>19376854
And also Aki's extremely long recovery period after her surgery might have given her second thoughts too

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>>19376890
was it that long tho...

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>>19377450
she was out for almost three months, anon.

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Oh man what I would give for an art collaboration between Senchou and Pochi mama (pic related) like the ones Senchou had with other artists in the old days, why doesn't Marine collaborate like that anymore nowadays?

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>>19375561
Everything I've seen of Mori, which is admittedly not much, gives me the impression that her being that cringe is normal for her. I hope Marine doesn't collab with her very often in the future, especially while she's going to be keeping her general level of activity low

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>>19376854
where did you hear about that?

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>>19378108
I really enjoyed the art collabs too. I think if she wasn't so inactive we might have seen more like it. The passpartout collabs with 6th gen are similar-ish to be fair.

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>>19377563
both options end up seeming bad this way, her throat isn't so bad that 3 months feels like an acceptable cost (especially when they can just recur anyway), but being stuck in low activity mode doesn't feel good either

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>>19378689
Yes I really like the passpartout and gartic phone collabs but I would like something more calm and that both drew on the same canvas, now that I think about it most Holo JP artists hardly do art anymore, I haven't seen Flare do it recently, nor suisei and Senchou occasionally does art but not very often, I wonder if it's because those streamings don't attract many people.

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>Last stream 9 days ago

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>>19380341
we had one yesterday

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Marine played Dark Souls but she won't play Elden Ring because she can't get supas and she is very greedy.

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that Mori stream was sonewhat cringe, even beyond the parts that were intentionally so.

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>>19379567
>those streamings don't attract many people
Fans will watch it(because it's just zatsu)
but if numbers are more important than making content for fans...

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>>19382103
numbers are arguably the indication of whether fans like the content

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>>19382103
>>19383125
and besides, Marine art streams perform well, her last Gartic phone stream did over 50k concurrent viewers

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I am not sure if I can be a Marine anti anymore. Finding out about the shit Rushia's roommate has done... It makes Marine look like an angel in comparison.

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>>19384475
Rushia’s roomate seems to be doing well anyway, her new channel is already raking in huge amount of views/subscribers. Bitch made Marine for nothing.

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>>19384529
Marine cry for nothing*

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>>19384529
She is very good at manipulating her audience, better than I could have ever imagined. In the past I thought she was just good at being a pretend gf but this is something else...
Then there is that clip of her admitting to being a scammer with a shit eating grin on her face and then suicide baiting when she was getting hate for it.
In fact all her suicide baiting looks worse now...
Then there is the cicada thing
She is a fucking terrible person. Like a seriously terrible person.
Marine's crimes pale in comparison.

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>>19384783

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>>19383125
going back to >>19364095
numbers wont go up forever
and frankly some people sub for X content, you either cater to them of let them go

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>>19386412
yeah, I worry that Marine will haemorrhage fans while not gaining enough new ones to make up for it the more she stays in low activity mode

hopefully she doesn't take it too personally

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>>19360010
I will encourage her to stream after I marry her

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>>19386478
I'm certain she's aware, and out of all holos surprisingly Sora has already dipped on red once.

what I fear the most that they are perfectly aware about the potential bleed but choose to ignore it because it would take years before it starts to affect their sponsorship values.
Just operate at bare minimum to keep gachikois buying concert tickets and merch

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>>19386812
thanks anon, please make sure you do
>>19386851
dipped on red by what metric?

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>>19386851
>Just operate at bare minimum to keep gachikois buying concert tickets and merch
Isn’t this what she’s been doing for a few months now?

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>>19387870
arguably it's not bare minimum, we see a lot more of Marine than anyone sees of e.g. Ayame, thanks to collabs and skdw and mrym etc

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Rushia’s new success now that she’s out of Hololive scares me for Marine. I hope she won’t want to try to leave Hololive just because she knows she can still be successful elsewhere.

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>>19384783
first of all, "admitting shes a scammer" lmao ok

what did marine do

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>>19388599
would that be so bad? it's not like the character settei or model is adding much to what she's bringing to the table. In my opinion at least, everything good about Marine is all her. Cover's tech and the model they gave her aren't pulling their weight by comparison.

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>>19388599
Why are (You) worried that will happen?

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>>19389241
He’s talking about Rushia, anonchama

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>>19389449
there's that line "Marine's crimes pale in comparison" and I decided not to ask because I suspected the answer would be dumb and negative, but presumably that's what the other anon was asking about

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>>19388599
All holos are aware that they will have instant success by leaving hololive, the reason they stay within the company is (and I don't say this ironically) because they like the atmosphere within it along with the relationships and interactions they have formed, that's why I have never bought into the "they fake a smile despite being exploited" bullshit that many hololive NTs push.

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>>19389438
Marine is already not outputing a whole lot of content these days, she might be tired of being confined within Cover’s guidelines and has seen it’s definitely possible to be successful as an independent creator thanks to Coco and Rushia.

>>19389526
And yet a lot of holos have expressed their frustration with management many times already, Marine included. I would be surprised if she hadn’t thought about it many times already.

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>>19389648
for sure she's thought about it before, Marine's had times where she's been extremely frustrated and sad about things that could have easily been cover's fault

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>>19389762
To be fair I’m sure we all thought about quitting our jobs before. I’m glad you think she won’t try to quit, I wonder what other people in here think. The thread has been very slow today.

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>>19389648
We know she's considered it before, but I really don't see it happening for a while. I get the feeling that she ultimately enjoys working for Cover despite her hangups with things there. She's just at the tail end of a depressive episode right now.
This isn't a great reason to stay at a job by any means, but she also strikes me as someone that would be very unlikely to quit soon after a high profile and demoralizing termination like Rushia's.

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>>19389841
I wasn't the anon who thinks she won't try to quit, I think it wouldn't take that much necessarily for her to decide to. The incentives aren't that bad.

but she could very easily end up staying with the company for a long time as well, it just depends on how things go

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>>19389241
I was talking about Rushia. There is a clip of her roommate floating around where she admits to scamming people

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Retardbro here. When/where did she say she was working out?

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>>19390859
In her last membership stream.

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>>19390083
Yeah, I guess there’s nothing that can really tell us what her next move will be.

>>19390039
I don’t think she’ll quit right after the Rushia yab either, but it might have set things in motion.

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Given all that we know/have been told about Senchou's roommate, I've decided that I need to go to Japan and impregnate her immediately.

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>>19391754
I’m on my way as well, can I get the window seat?

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>>19391754
Sorry bro but I'm already planning my trip and I don't think you'll fit on the plane.

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I will only warn you fools so many times: interfering in my five year plan that culminates in my marriage with Marine could spell death for you. It will bring me no joy to do that to any of you.

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>>19393074
Too late anon I am already courting Senchou for a long time and she is being very receptive to it, I will send you an invitation for our wedding.

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>>19393832
In your dreams, fucker

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>>19393074
5 years is way too slow dude, her eggs will have dried up by then

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>>19390534
Got a link?

And yeah I was asking what bad things Marine supposedly did. I haven't heard a single thing about Marine being bad. She's an angel.
I was asking about Marine's crimes.

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>>19397218
From what she’s showed publicly, she hasn’t done anything wrong. Obviously nobody knows how she’s like when the cameras are off.

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>>19397218
I can think of things to hate marine about, but she's not gotten in much trouble for any of them yet, and they're the kind of thing EOPs like the schizo won't even notice. Her biggest yabs so far have been pretty dumb.

I wouldn't call her an angel but she seems alright.

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>>19397202
They'll still be there, but I will concede that our child will be more likely to come out retarded. Much to think about.

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>>19397493
What were her yabs anon? Also, why isn’t she an angel. Lay it all down.

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>>19399058
I mean like the BL fridge drama, there are things you could say she did wrong in that incident but it was blown way out of proportion and they only went up in flames because antis were being misleading about what actually happened

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>>19399058
You know if he had any actual source he'd have posted it already. Just another shit stirrer peddling rrats.

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>>19399709
you can get banned for posting links to the wrong things or even just replying to someone posting links, which happeneed to me, so don't expect to get spoonfed anytime soon

and I love Marine, I just don't think it's right to assume she's a perfect angel, she has flaws like the rest of us

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>>19399595
The BL fridge drama? Never heard of that one before. Did it happen when she was at Hololive?

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>>19400563
how new are you? she had to release a public apology and everything, it wasn't even that long ago

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>>19400609
I never heard of it, what happened?

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>>19400860
Ooooh that thing? It wasn’t even her fault in my opinion!

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You all need to the calm down and step back, it's already been proven multiple times Brit accents seal the deal for vtubing girls, amd guess who has a Brit accent as well as a pleasing voice

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>>19401915
none of the holos?

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>>19401915
That's very superficial of you, Brit ichimi. Marine is not "vtubing girls." Your ambitions are dead in the water

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>>19400860
My memory is hazy, but iirc miko & marine had a sleepover, Miko pranked Marine by putting some BL doujin in the fridge and having the other go get something out of it. Antis being antis then went on twitter and twisted the events telling the BL author saying they laughed at his doujin and mocked his work when in reality they were mostly laughing at the prank, hardly the doujin itself. BL author doesn't actually check and rants about them on twitter making money off his work (ironic, cause it's a SNK bl pretty sure). Then they both have to apologize because Japanese outrage culture is weird.

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Somebody in another thread said Marine used to be engaged but her fiance cheated on her, how believable is that rrat?

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>>19402396
Sou desu ne...

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>>19402579
creative exaggeration

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>>19402681
> exaggeration
So there’s some truth to it?

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>>19402725
not really

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>>19402725
the only thing that's confirmed is that she's expressed a distaste for cheaters and distrusts men who go for younger women, but you don't have to be cheated on to have that opinion.

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>>19402844
>>19403373
Didn’t she alluded to being married in one of her old artwork

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>>19403425
Didn’t she allude* phoneposting

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>>19403425
I don't think so, which one are you thinking of though

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>>19403589

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>>19403738
There are also some Twitter screenshots of her talking about living with a guy in 2019. But I don’t want to attract the anger of the jannies.

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>>19403738
I'm guessing you can't read Japanese anon, this is just hibimegane's foreword to her 2017 doujin manga

either you posted the wrong image or someone tried to sell you a rrat

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>>19403998
Isn’t this guy the one she was going out/living with? Have I been played like a fiddle anon? I gotta stop believing retards when they tell me shit if I can’t even fucking read what they send me holy shit

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>>19404116
wait did you seriously just accept it when you couldn't read the japanese in the first place? anon....

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>>19399595
lol thats it? cmon man, thats weak shit

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I love that "the BL fridge drama" isn't even an inaccurate way to describe what happened there

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>>19404242
I’m an EOP, what do you expect? This guy is pretty popular though, so for him to be associated with Senchou at that time, she must have been pretty popular as well before Hololive? How popular was she?

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>>19404314
yeah, that's the point

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>>19404116
I mean there are like 6 or 7 pieces of evidence you could stack up together to tell a convincing story, I guess

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>>19404648
So how believable is the rrat anonchama?

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>>19404735
very unlikely she's ever been married

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>>19404395
Her prior vtuber persona only had 4k subs, so not very popular.

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>>19405089
Wasn’t she popular on niconico?

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>>19405245
If she was, it didn't carry over to her other activities.

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>>19405913
I mean, it clearly did

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>>19405949
What do you mean?

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>>19405913
I guess it’s hard to evaluate her popularity back then if we weren’t there to witness it because a whole lot of people who discovered her from Hololive went and inflated the numbers on her older channels.

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>>19406081
it's pretty easy to evaluate her popularity back then, it's not a secret or anything

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So what was Marine saying in her members only stream? I heard it was a vent stream? About her health, or Rushia, or...?

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>>19406197
just what she's been up to and some stuff she's got planned, mostly

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>>19406143
How popular was she?

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>>19406352
just compare her numbers and milestones back then to the field, it's not hard. She was popular

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>>19406437
I thought her numbers were inflated by newer people coming to her channel years later once she got into Hololive. Clearly she wasn’t popular enough to make enough money to not need to be on welfare.

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>>19406630
Japan doesn't even have welfare, unless you count unemployment insurance which is something you have to pay into to get back

her number milestones and when she achieved them are public knowledge, you don't need to worry about people coming in after the fact if you take the historical numbers and their dates

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>>19406630
Unemployment with mandatory job training (medical transcription in Marine's case) is not the same as welfare.

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>>19406871
Medical transcription? Never heard of that. I read in this general she used to be on welfare, should have doubled checked I guess.

>>19406820
Guess I’ll checkout the milestones, I was just wondering if she had hundreds of thousands/of followers/views on niconico or Twitter already by then.

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>>19406314
whats the main takeaways from it?

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>>19407055
it was talked about in the other thread a bit if you're interested

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>>19407108
I went through it. You mean people speculating she might retire because she doesn't find joy in streaming anymore?

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>>19407669
no, all that was random bullshit, I meant the stuff where she talked about what she's been doing and which collabs are coming up

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>>19393074
ALREADY PLANING THE ANON’S ONLY MEETUP ORGY WITH MARINE IN 2 YEARS
HER ANUS BELONGS TO NE FIRST THEN YOU GUYS GET THE REMAINS

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>>19408854
You will be the first to die.

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>>19408950
ANON YOU CAN STILL MARRY HER JUST HER ANAL VIRGINITY SHALL BE MINE

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>>19409115
When you put it that way, as long as you're not going to rape her then go right ahead

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>>19386876
>dipped on red by what metric?
subscribers, monthly average went negative

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>>19410427
No, daily subs went into the negatives for a couple of days. Monthly subs are still rising.

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>>19403881
Just post them if you're going to talk about them

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>>19406630
She had 40k followers in 2012 and it's 44k. This inflation you're talking about isn't there.

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>>19411716
she got cheated on, everybody who cares to do their reps knows that

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>>19410427
>>19410545
That was during yt's "let's roll out a policy where we'll unsub you if you've not commented on a channel's vids in 1yr" arc right?
Sora lost a whole chunk because of that, and because her channel is older than all the others.

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>>19414248
No it's during the recent kerfluffle when Rushia got fired

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>>19414248
>unsub you if you've not commented on a channel's vids in 1yr
what, lame.
imagine if it starts unsubing me from the hologirls

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>>19413779
Yeah but where are the tweets about her living with a guy from 2019?
She said she got cheated on in 2018. If she was living with a guy in 2019 then she is probably married.

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when did marine get her surgery?

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>>19415189
not yet as far as we know

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>>19406960
she mentions it in Shabby's latest clip, incidentally, in the teacher section.

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>>19378610
>>19381993
on the bright side, it did finally refute that guy who insisted she would never stream in English.

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>>19397218
Marine's crimes:
Being a fujoshi
Lying to her fans by being a fake otaku
Bullying her colleagues
Lying about why she isn't streaming
Being an HxH, Jojo and Code Shit fan
Playing Valve walking simulators
Shouting over her colleagues during collabs
Posting too much on reddit
Being friends with Mori
Being unfit
Having an ugly voice
Being a bully in her past life

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Us Nijichads like eating dog shit.

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>>19397218
She's a whore who panders to lowlife losers

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Oh look its schizo o'clock in seanig town.

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Senchou should play vampire survivors or whatever that shit is called, it looks like the kind of game in her alley.

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>>19417929
it really does, it's like reverse touhou crossed with a cookie clicker game

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>>19395827
What's the matter, honey? Are you jealous? Don't worry, I've talked to her and we've already agreed that she'll continue to stream after our wedding, so don't worry.

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Why is this general so active despite Marine not doing anything???

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>>19419640
Schizos

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Has Marine ever sounded this sad?

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>>19378626
She did a top 5 painful moments in her life stream last year and her thyroid surgery came in at #2 (actually #1 since the listed 1 was a gag entry from her).

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>>19389422
Yea and No for me.

There is a lot to love about her but it’s undeniable she has some of the best vtuber models in the company as well.

>Red hair
>Thigh high stockings
>Full body panties
>Those.Fucking.Thiiiiiiiighs.
>Removable Skirt
>That wondrous chest
>One of the sexiest NY’s outfits
>Goth Lolita; proper garter belt
>Closest return to HoloSummer
>STICKY FINGERS

Ya, no…a part of the magic dies when the character is left behind. It will be a sad day.

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>>19404836
At most I think she had an affair during her Black company OL days that went extremely sour. Her distaste for cheaters, mentioned several times both pre-HL and HL, does sound like she speaks from experience.

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https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1498966403587534849?s=20&t=JK3u4TXjbpC7ZoIh5iSbow

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>>19423226
Is she going to visit a shrink now?

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>>19423226
What does she mean!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19411716

[Anonymous No.]

>>19424214
That she’s taking care of her mental health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19414540
they also demonetize if channel doesn't have activity for 6months

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19416714
(you).

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>>19424342
Nigger, did you check the dates? Some of those tweets are more than a year apart, the others sound like little banter and the last ones are just chit chat.
I don't want to sound like a squizo in denial but this is proof of nothing.

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>>19425852
The do sound lovey-dovey in them though.

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>>19425981
I assume you never had close friends so you don't understand how friends talk to each other, if anything it reads more like the guy is the one having a crush on her although as I said it could just be banter between them, Marine is the kind of person who would joke around with anyone like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19426110
Wasn’t this guy the one who cheated on her anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

Man who the fuck cares I just want her to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>19426321
She said she was cheated on in 2018 so it was someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19376854
thyroid surgery doesn't have much to do with laryngeal surgery, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19427808
Oh so she admitted it herself? I didn’t know that. Why isn’t this more common knowledge then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19416714
the only serious crime there is being friends with Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>19422783
for me, it's
>oversized coat, especially in 3D

and maybe the eyepatch, to a lesser extent.
the way her twintails are low on her head also looks better than the more common higher placement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19428000
She never stated anything explicitly, in one stream in her roommate account the chat asked her if she had been cheated on and she just said Yes, and as Marine one day she started talking about how cheating is unacceptable for her, from there people started to formulate rrats without further evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19428899
To add to this, she's also said men who go for younger women all the time tend to not be trustworthy. As they tend to "throw away" and move on as soon as they someone younger & cuter.

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>>19428899
I just hope Marine Happy....

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>>19428363
Don't you faggots realize that Senchou admires Mori and if she heard you bad mouthing her she would get angry and defend her.

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>>19426110
>>19425852
>>19425981
I mean a lot of them are easy to write off as banter rather than lovey-doveyness, although I think you could plausibly interpret them as either, but the hotcakes are harder to explain away

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>>19429186
This always made me wonder if some older co-worker started flirting with her but ignored her when someone younger joined her office, it sounds like Senchou might be a little bitter about something that happened to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19412681
source? 40k can't be right

[Anonymous No.]

>>19429770
do you think it's too high or too low?

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>>19429280
I accept that those two tweets do read a bit weird but again it could be anything, we could speculate all day and never know the truth until she confirms or denies it but that's never going to happen so it's better to focus on other things.

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>>19429617
I was thinking more along the lines that whomever cheated on her likely did it with someone younger. I doubt she cares about geezers not flirting with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19429770
It's listed on her nicopedia page under achievements which shows different follower counts on different dates. You need to be a real schizo if you think she went there and changed that page to fit the "inflated" numbers.

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>>19430007
Is 40k a lot on niconico?

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>>19429823
I mean of course we don't know every detail about everything Marine has ever done, but it's not too crazy to guess that she's had a few boyfriends before based on everything she's said and done publicly, is all. The alternative idea that she's an untouched virgin just seems less likely.

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>>19430029
It was a lot in 2012 but not superstar status or anything like that. It's kind of similar to having 100k on Youtube today.

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>>19429796
way too high
i mean 2012? i would believe it in 2018 but not so early on when she started in 2011
absolutely no way it was 40k
4k maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430129
why do you think she started in 2011?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430129
Well you're currently just lying to yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430140
why do you assume it's a rrat?
she did start activities in 2011
just look it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430193
you need to do your reps anon, you clearly can't read Japanese if you think that

[Anonymous No.]

So from what I gather Senchou used to be EXTREMELY popular on niconico back then? What kind of content did she even make?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430165
why? you are the one who dropped a baseless number

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430257
people have spoonfed you the direct source and you still somehow can't work it out, this is pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430257
>baseless
The number is literally on her community page right now you fucking retard. What's baseless about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430291
>he thinks the number has not changed since 2012 now that she is super popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430343
Yeah it has changed by 4k.

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>>19428899
>>19429186
That's fair, she will never provide a smoking gun but when it comes to rrats there are ones that are total ass-pulls and ones that are where there is smoke there must be fire and this feels alot more like the latter when you connect all the disjointed bits.

>>19430061
Her OL stories sound like it was quite a sizeable company, no way she came out of such an environment 100% unscathed both physically and mentally.

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>>19430061
As much as it pains me to think about it, yes I agree that Senchou probably had at least one boyfriend in the past but I doubt she has one now, more so if we take into account that other holos have slept over in her apartment and when she talked about her sister moving in with her.

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>>19430228
sorry 2010
still my point stands

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430436
well yeah I'd be pretty surprised if she was living was living with someone now, obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430193
She started activities in May 2010

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430125
Would it be a fair assessment that of all the Holos that have come from NND that Marine was near the top amongst them or more in the middle; back in the NND days that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430363
is that what the voices told you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430235
Mostly voice imitation if I recall; she TRIED to dabble in singing and even released a cover or two but its clear it didn't pan out since she settled for it as a side hobby while pursuing her OL gig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430519
That's what the nicopedia page says, schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430518
I’d like to know this as well, I’m not really experienced with what’s considered big or not on NND.

>>19430572
Do you think she’s good enough to become a fulltime VA today? She must have been really good to get so many viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19418848
Why are you calling me honey

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430518
Well she was never at the big nico circlejerk IRL events so whatever she was, she wasn't part of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19430666
Because you sound like a little kid and it's fun to tease you.

[Anonymous No.]

How many viewers did other holos have in comparison? if we were to make a ranking? Who was the most popular during nnd days? Who the least?

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>>19430572
she did a lot more than imitations, do your reps

also you have to remember that when she was active it was the prehistoric era as far as streaming is concerned, it's kinda hard to explain if you weren't around at the time how unusual the idea of trying to make a living off of streaming was. Twitch didn't even exist yet, if that helps.

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>>19431124
Yeah Marine is one of the true OGs in NND, this is why shes so respected today, she must be one the holos with more years of experience in streaming.
I still remember when Youtube was practically unknown to Japanese people and most anime trailers or Japanese games had to be watched on NND when it was still called nico nico video, those were the days.
Didn't Marine just say that she would like to go back to that time in the zatsudan after the fan meeting?

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>>19430029
I'd say that's a lot on any website, even today

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>>19412681
What did she do back then to get so popular?

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>>19431231
Who respects her outside of the Hololive circle? Is she an OG in the same sense Pewdiepie is an OG (on a much smaller scale, of course)

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>>19431442
Eh, yeah it’s an insane number but considering that nowadays you can casually get 40k subs on Youtube with 2 videos the algorithm decides it likes I’m sure it was a much bigger deal back when she started.

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>>19431124
>trying to make a living off of streaming
But she wasn't which is why she started streaming less and less after getting a job.

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>>19431124
What other content did she make?

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>>19431825
I'm not exactly sure that's even true for modern YouTube. If it is, I'm in the wrong line of work

[Anonymous No.]

>>19431872
I suggest you take a look at Ludwig’s video on how he made a brand new channel and managed to get his first video to 10k views in the matter of minutes. Kind of eye opening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19431872
Also another example, Kenji, a brand new vtuber who got like 100k subs on Youtube in a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19431458
Her voice impression videos got very popular I guess. Her appearances on other streams were always about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19431908
10k+ views and 10k+ subs are not the same thing anon. I have like 6 videos with 300k+ views on my account but I only have about 5k subs

[Anonymous No.]

To be honest this whole thread made me realize just how young I am compared to Marine. I was fucking 10 when she started creating content. I hope it won’t affecy my chances of marrying her.

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>>19431954
I agree, though I do think that there are a lot more people on Youtube nowadays than there were on niconico back then, so it’s all relative to the platform and time you are on. 40k followers on niconico in 2012 is impressive as fuck.

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>>19432115
So YAGOO didn't just pull the talents out of his ass huh?
Lightning in a bottle they said.
More like good research and scouting.

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>>19431908
Ludwig already had an established internet presence before he did that though, didn't he?
>>19431940
I heard something about that guy but never looked into him. That is pretty crazy even if he's only getting views from 10% of those people

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>>19432207
I dunno who insisted this was entirely lightning in a bottle, but Fantasy in particular was very well scouted. They all had pretty sizeable followings before they joined Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>19431855
Mainly zatsudans (where she would talk about her OL work, what she did during the day, talk about herself and stuff like that), some gameplays, practice for voice imitation contests, movie watch alongs, collabs with other NND users, karaokes on rare occasions.
Honestly her content back then was not that different from today.

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>>19432257
fantasy weren't scouted to be fair, aside from peko and rushia anyway. Marine, Flare and Noel were open casting calls, the vtuber models themselves were publicly released before they found voice actors for them and people were asked to audition for the role they wanted

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>>19432260
it's all the same games, even. It's amazing in a way how much Marine hasn't branched out

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>>19432207
A little bit of both I’d say. With Holos like Subaru or Haachama, it was definitely pulling talent out of his ass but for others it was good scouting and intuition. Let’s be honest, Marine was popular on NND, but she was “”only”” at 40k followers, and her growth had slowed down quite a bit. By the time she started to become an indie vtuber, she was 2view tier. I disagree with both the people who say she was some sort of NND god and those who say she was a nobody. She was middle of the pack.

>>19432222
well yes, but the whole point of his video was to create a brand new channel, and have it so nobody would think it was him running it behind the scene. A clean slate essentially.

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>>19432320
Oh okay, perhaps I should have said "well vetted" instead. They picked some good ones is all I meant to say

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>>19432260
daamn no wonder she might feel burnt out
over 10 years doing it
now im really curious about the nnd content
most of the archives seem gone though
there is barely anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>19432070
I'm afraid it definitely will, baby ichimi

[Anonymous No.]

>>19432642
*canonically correct Senchou*
Since she was 17 when she started this would be the only time senchou had the same age as her canon

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>>19432690
I remeber a clip of her saying she used to look at young boys’ legs in the train when she was in highschool. I must have been the age of the youngboys back then, I still have a chance. I shall totally shave my legs and only wear shorts from now on.

>>19432768
If I recall correctly, she must have started at a bit older than 17.

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>>19432394
>I disagree with both the people who say she was some sort of NND god and those who say she was a nobody. She was middle of the pack.
I agree, Marine was not THE superstar of NND but neither she was a literal "who?" Rather she was well known and admired within her own niche.
What continues to amaze me about her is that in those days on special occasions like anniversaries and birthdays she managed to pull in a similar number of viewers to what she gets on average in the present, I'm talking about one occasion she managed to get over 30k viewers with a subscriber count of just over 40k, it's an achievement that I think must have been very difficult to pull in those days at NND.

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>>19432826
Yes that’s very impressive, I’m always surprised by how big the numbers of Japanese content creators can get considering they’re a relatively small group of people. They often rival with big English creators even though they appeal to a much smaller audience. To be fair though, it’s not rare (these days at least) to see streamers on Twitch pull in 2 or 3 times their average CCV when there’s a special event.

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>>19432826
What would you say Marine’s average CCV was back then?

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>>19432825
>If I recall correctly, she must have started at a bit older than 17
If she started in 2010 then she should've been 17 (unless she started in the last week 2010)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19433117
That's impossible to know because NND doesn't have that number.

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>>19432070
It will, padawan ichimi, Senchou recently commented that she feels more comfortable with people older than her because it makes her feel younger, sorry.
Although for me she is perfect since I am older than her by a few years and my senchou will always be younger than me.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm three years younger than senchou but get pegged as an old soul by most people I meet and even got several unsolicited compliments about how I would probably make a great dad in the last year or so, so I think I can make it work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19433422
I’m nearly 8 years younger, I’ll wish you guys luck. Taste the fruit of the tree I am too short to pick.

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>>19432826
>What continues to amaze me about her is that in those days on special occasions like anniversaries and birthdays she managed to pull in a similar number of viewers to what she gets on average in the present, I'm talking about one occasion she managed to get over 30k viewers
Source?
If this is actually true and not just some rrat of course.

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>>19430854
I've seen someone describe Pekora as "if Raocow became a vtuber".

[Anonymous No.]

>>19433618
I'm not saying the above anon is right, cause I have no idea, but it's one boring rrat to say "she got lots of viewers during special events on NND"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19433903
Never question the motives of a schizo

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>>19430605
>nicopedia
an actual fucking schizo
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>19434161
What's wrong with it, retard? Are you claiming someone went to the page and invented these imaginary milestone dates?

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>>19433618
>>19433903
Her NND page lists all her milestones and this is one of them, it was a stream of Smash bros to celebrate her channel anniversary, I don't know if the viewers participated as they do today but at least there are testimonials of it.

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>>19434404
That's not viewers you idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>19434161
>>19434492
Oh no, it's the over combative schizo, so what are them, nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19434610
Why are you quoting someone denying that she had 40k followers and me correctly shitting this retard claiming she had 30k viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19434660
Both are niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19434874
So you're just shitting your pants because someone called you a retard. Got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19434918
Give me evidence to the contrary faggot, if you don't give it you are just another schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19378108
Pochi's style and Marine's body type don't match very well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435035
The evidence is on the nicopedia page like with every fucking other thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435066
Post a link then

[Anonymous No.]

Can you guys kiss already

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435112
Not taking your report bait.
You just shit on someone claiming nicopedia is not proof yet now you don't believe it. What the fuck are you even doing? Seems like you are the schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435050
Pochi likes to create tall and thin girls, that's why Marine looks dissonant with her style, although I would still like to see her draw Senchou more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435155
Wow watch your self projection nigger, the only schizo I see here is (you).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435261
You're literally repeating this shit >>19434161 right now. You are a schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435303
The schizo accusing others of being a schizo, take your meds asap faggot.

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>>19432394
Hmm, would it be fair to say that at the start of her NND days she was one of the bigger and more notable presences prior to having to relent and go the OL route since being an online entertainer wasn't profitable at the time.

It'd be kind of neat and poetic if Marine during NND was a hit but was too soon to make it and fast forward almost a decade later and much, much hardship for a delayed payoff of her hitting it big with Hololive by arriving at the right time to make the most of the global explosion months later and catapult her to immense fame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435555
If she was popular she would have been able to make money on NND like Nayuta has for over a decade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435394
You literally repeated what the schizo said so you are a schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435555
Others were making money at the time but she didn't for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435653
because she was never popular. Even Flare's roommate made money.
Marine was a literal who.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435685
So she was a literal who with 40k followers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435723
They accidentally followed her (みかりん*) instead of みかりん

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435303
nigga 30k was the total views not how many watched it live

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435555
I don’t think so. I think that just like other anons have said on here, she was more of a middle of the pack kind of creator. She wasn’t a literal who like the schizos on here say, but she wasn’t big enough to live off of it. Who knows what would have happened if she didn’t have to stop though.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Marine attract so much schizoposting? There is no other general like this.
I'm laughing my ass off right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435826
I really have no clue. It's like this even when she's streaming regularly, or at least it has been as long as I've been reading /ahoy/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435766
That's not how it works

[Anonymous No.]

Her twitcast had less than 1k followers last time I checked. She was a complete nobody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435826
Never been to the Gura geneal I assume? Or the Haachama one? This place is really not that bad for /vt/ standards. I would assume it’s because people on here are somewhat older.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435869
Oh right people never confuse someone for somebody else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435775
No it wasn't. Why do you keep tryong to bullshit? It was a celebration stream for reaching 30k you moronic ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435826
lack of regular activity, its something expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435914
That doesn't happen with a community page, based retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435872
Wouldn't the twitcast have come much later from her NND glorydays though? I'd imagine her twitcast days align timeline-wise to when she was attempting a mangaka career and a 2view loli vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435967
If thats the case then the same pattern is playing out now. Popular to literal who because of laziness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435922
why are you so angry? you were the one who said it was live viewers originaly

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435872
So Miko only has 231k fans because her twitch has that many?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435922
This you? >>19432826
>I'm talking about one occasion she managed to get over 30k viewers with a subscriber count of just over 40k

[Anonymous No.]

>>19436074
Dont feed the Marineschizo please

[Anonymous No.]

>>19436041
I never said that retard.

>>19436102
That's not me retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19436125
Then who the fuck are you? Fuck off slime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19436250
>>19434492

[Anonymous No.]

I love how the thread started from wishing Marine was more active to a Q&A about Marine to a straight Doxx thread to end in a fight of retards.
Never change /ahoy/ please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19436560
I love watching retards call each other retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19436560
I’ve realized this thread turns in a shitshow the second there’s more than 20 IPs posting.

[Anonymous No.]

all those posts arguing in this thread? me.

[Anonymous No.]

Is your oshi okay guys? I don't think she's publicly streamed since this whole Rushia thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>19437359
she tweeted "mental care!!! mental care!!!" today so go figure

[Anonymous No.]

>>19437359
She did a mengen stream two days ago, and was going to do a collaboration yesterday but it was postponed until further notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19435766
kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19432351
she played quite a few games in her earlier Hololive days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19437882
yeah but I mean stuff like Burger Burger and Smash and Sakura Taisen and Touhou and Kirby 64 and Mario Party 2 and Resident Evil and etc. etc.

It's insane how many games are the same games she's always streamed

[Anonymous No.]

>>19437559
Kek I love how we all ignored it. I have no clue what she meant by that. When girls talk about taking care of their mental health they talk about going to the spa and what not, maybe Marine visited an onsen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19438326
I really hope she finds it in herself to get her shit together.
She started working out so that's a very good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19438326
I certainly don't know how to interpret it. Hope she's doing ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>19438318
well, I guess people have games they like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19437559
ambiguous; unclear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19438413
>>19438422
When people start sending cryptic messages like that, it’s not a good sign. No matter what’s happening with her that prevents her from streaming it’s clear it’s definitely more mental than physical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19437559
I hope that evil senpai didn't switch to bullying senchou now that Rushia is out of the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19414305
I recall it was just holo JP in general probably losing Rushia fans that were mad at hololive in general for pettan removal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19438620
How likely is graduation?