How are people coping now that she's touring with THE Kizuna Ai?

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Anonymous Sat Mar 27 08:38:19 2021 No.1942490 [Reply] [Original]

How are people coping now that she's touring with THE Kizuna Ai?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 08:57:29 2021 No.1942808 >>1942490 If anything, Kizuna AI is roping in Nyanners to try to get her viewership increased, not the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:00:14 2021 No.1942863 How do they "tour"? Remote live concerts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:05:51 2021 No.1942953 does she even have real fans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:12:17 2021 No.1943056 >>1942953 All of them are future pedos

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:12:33 2021 No.1943061 >>1942490 Kizuna who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:13:34 2021 No.1943085 >>1942490 Does Nyanners know that Ai chan is a lolicon? If not we should let her know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:25:04 2021 No.1943260 File: 58 KB, 389x389, 1592347005669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Nyancer getting used for a quick view pump

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:27:00 2021 No.1943282 >>1942490 by reposting the exact same shit they've been posting for 2 months straight

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 09:28:33 2021 No.1943299 >>1942490 >Dead virtual idol and uninteresting vtuber Woah great combo

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:21:27 2021 No.1944047 >>1942808 It'll be mutually beneficial.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:28:26 2021 No.1944179 File: 39 KB, 1021x574, 1610056937293.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942490 Watch her try to go mainstream again and fail Just like becoming a VA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:29:23 2021 No.1944194 literally no one talks about kizuna ai outside of china

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:31:57 2021 No.1944243 >>1943260 Based Ai

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:37:33 2021 No.1944351 >>1942953 >>1943056 >>1943260 >>1943299 Cope. Nyannners is easily one of the best EOP vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:38:39 2021 No.1944374 >>1942490 Another one, Nyanners? Stop making bait threads and just fuck off back to your discord.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:39:14 2021 No.1944389 It'd be impressive if anyone still cared about Kizuna

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:40:13 2021 No.1944406 >>1944351 >quality = popularity >what is mouse >what is melody Even here, the tranny and the cheater get more love/less hate than Nyanners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:40:35 2021 No.1944411 is it even the REAL Kizuna? Didn't her roommate get replaced years ago?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:50:52 2021 No.1944602 >>1942490 I've never watched her and I'll probably continue not watching her, so the impact was neutral. I haven't watched Kizuna Ai in a while either because I prefer a livestream format, it seems more "real" to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:51:27 2021 No.1944611 >>1944406 >Even here The controversy with her is specifically about 4chan, of course she gets the most hate here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:52:31 2021 No.1944629 >>1944406 The lowest circle of hell is reserved for traitors.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:53:27 2021 No.1944644
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I get that spergs are somehow still mad at pink cat, but what the hell did Ai-chan do cause people to get mad at her?
>VA got replaced
debunked, literally no reason to believe this rrat unless you choose to be retarded.
>sold out to china
literally never happened

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 10:58:25 2021 No.1944731

>>1944644
>get mad at her
Nobody is mad, she was just forgotten because of Mito pioneering livestreaming and how she didn't catch up to that because of her company issues. As you said, only retarded newfags actually believe that the VA got replaced like gamebu. The rest are just trolling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 11:48:44 2021 No.1945833 They're forced to hate on kizuna now which is hilarious

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 11:49:48 2021 No.1945874 I feel bad for ai. She deserves much better than the shit company that forces her now to do a collab with the embodiment of a turd

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 11:52:33 2021 No.1945944 >>1942490 >Kizuna Ai who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:03:36 2021 No.1946194 >>1944731 What's the point of trolling kizuna fans though? They don't even get any (you)s for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:13:36 2021 No.1946425 >>1945944 The vtuber with more subs than your precious reddit shark

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:15:12 2021 No.1946475 >>1945833 I can't wait until she collabs with gura or fubuki or some shit, and just watch these retards move the goalposts even more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:15:27 2021 No.1946481 >>1946425 I dont watch Artemis

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:38:55 2021 No.1947097 >>1944351 >easily one of the best EOP vtuber. not very hard, when they're all pretty much terrible

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:40:30 2021 No.1947150 >>1944351 Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:54:07 2021 No.1947557 >>1942490 >How are people coping now that she's touring with THE industry's biggest fall from grace? ftfy

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 12:58:39 2021 No.1947669 >>1946425 Surely you don't want to be numberfagging with Kizuna, do you anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:04:01 2021 No.1947808 I follow enough corporate vtubers to potentially fill 100% of my awake time so I don't care about nyanners, she was too late. I only occasionally watch indies to see if someone is interesting, as a way to switch things up

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:05:44 2021 No.1947842
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>>1942490
This hypocritial bitch keeps ruining Vtubing for me.
I never wished harm on anybody but I would be glad if she had an accident that made it impossible for her to continue this bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:08:46 2021 No.1947917 Gonna start hating on Kizuna now too. Fuck everybody who gives Nyanshit a platform.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:14:50 2021 No.1948109 >>1944351 nah she's not even a serious vtuber, just an ironic one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:17:26 2021 No.1948166 File: 173 KB, 800x387, copium.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1947842 >S-s-she's a h-h-hypocrite.... I hope s-s-something bad h-h-happens to her.... God you're fucking pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:17:43 2021 No.1948174 >>1944351 t.zoomer that still uses big chungus jokes

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:19:47 2021 No.1948228 >>1948166 Why? Not a fan of poetic justice?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:19:53 2021 No.1948230
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so I take it nyanners will have to squeeze her fat old butt in a mocap suit? Imagine how nasty that thing will get with her geriatric sweat. The staff will take the suit from her after the show, bring it out back alley and burn it. Also how the hell is she gonna sing with that chronic cough she seems to have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:21:56 2021 No.1948289 >>1948228 How is it poetic justice? She was objectively right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:22:22 2021 No.1948302 File: 65 KB, 600x600, put up or shet up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could not care less about either of them

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:22:37 2021 No.1948306 File: 31 KB, 480x660, 1616125821398.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942490 I'm really happy for the funny Pink Cat! I live off of the butthurt she causes here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:24:36 2021 No.1948356 >>1948166 Go back

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:26:07 2021 No.1948423 >>1948289 I hazard the guess that you jest. Contradicting yourself is one of the few things everybody should be able to agree on is objectively wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:27:11 2021 No.1948461 File: 539 KB, 487x590, walking garbage.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1948306 >I FARTED ONCE HAHAHAHA >funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:28:14 2021 No.1948494 >>1948228 You're whining on 4chan that you hope something bad happens because you won't ever actually do anything yourself about the person you apparently hate so much. He's right, impotent rage is pretty pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:31:23 2021 No.1948568 >>1948494 Well I won't deny that I'm pathetic in general, but this reasoning strikes me as weird. Of course I am hoping for good things to happen to good people and bad things to happen to bad people. Isn't that normal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:32:03 2021 No.1948581 >>1948494 True. 5ch can do it though - maybe the inclusion of Kizuna Ai will be enough to get something going.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:32:11 2021 No.1948584 >ponkotsu ai scraping the bottom of the barrel to try to be relevant again Kinda sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:32:30 2021 No.1948594 File: 1.05 MB, 720x1220, thread.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1947842 Nyanners threads in a nutshell

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:32:59 2021 No.1948607 >>1948423 Back up. Do you think sexualizing children is wrong or good? because that's the initial statement I'm talking about. If she went back on it for the sake of opportunity, that's how things are but what do you think?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:35:14 2021 No.1948641 File: 24 KB, 353x269, 1285909303859.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1948594 great work. genuinely made me chuckle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:36:07 2021 No.1948663 >>1948594 Lmao.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:37:08 2021 No.1948681

>>1948607
I think sexualizing real children is bad. I think fiction and drawings are always innocent regardless of the subject matter.
But none of that matters because the bitch we are talking about BOTH is against it but also does it herself. She is wrong no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:37:27 2021 No.1948692 File: 232 KB, 484x468, 1615105097899.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1948607 Good

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:38:57 2021 No.1948714 >>1948607 good.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:39:21 2021 No.1948721

>>1948568
She's not just some random bad person to you though, you clearly hate her quite a bit. You constantly post that collage and just said she keeps ruining vtubing for you, but you won't actually do anything more about this person than just vaguely hope something happens to stop her while continuing to let her live rent free in your head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:39:43 2021 No.1948728 File: 202 KB, 324x506, 1605950968467.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You could have prevented this, you know. You turned your back on her when she needed you.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:42:09 2021 No.1948778

>>1948681
Fiction and drawings are not innocent and you already know that because I could just say nyanners is fictional and everything nyanners seems to be could be a fabrication and you would still be upset about her.

This topic of this girl on the internet that you have no relation to is triggering you so much and you can't even understand why people would be upset about children being sexualized when children get molested and people have been molested as children.

Saying it doesn't matter, doesn't automatically mean it doesn't matter. This is literally the source of your outrage, you've built everything around this so talk about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:43:48 2021 No.1948810 File: 215 KB, 1102x1558, 1596102307723.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1948607 good. very good.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:48:00 2021 No.1948974

>>1948778
>I could just say nyanners is fictional
Of course you could say that, but that wouldn't make it true. She is a real person and doesn't even attempt to draw a distinction between her 3D and 2D personas.
It's also a little irritating that you're conflating two unrelated issues. Whether or not it is wrong to sexualize fictional children is not the issue here and in both cases, Nyanshit is wrong.
If it's wrong to do so, then Nyanshit is wrong for doing it herself.
If it's ok to do so, then Nyanshit is wrong for saying that it isn't.
My issue with her isn't that I disagree with her on something, but that she is trying to eat her cake and have it too. I can deal with opposing positions just fine, but internally inconsistent positions frustrate me.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:49:40 2021 No.1949022

>>1947842
Who actually gives a shit about this though.
A certain moth vTuber is getting shit on for a similar reason and as fun as it is to troll white knights in her thread, it gets old after a while because as it turns out it doesn't matter what any of them think.
If you're a lolicon, you're not suddenly going to stop consuming loli porn because of what some random hoe thinks. She's also not going to take it away from you.

Therefore I don't think there's an actual reason to hate nyanners.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:51:23 2021 No.1949063

>Nyanners apologized for her song about sexually abusing a child
>She's now collabing with someone who said a characters's armpits were cute
>This is the most hypocritical thing anyone could ever do
oh my god i'm fucking dying here, just stick to the "ai is irrelevant" argument if you want anyone to take you seriously

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:51:24 2021 No.1949064
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https://coub.com/view/1bp716

Is this pink cat? Sounds like her. Why can't you find this on youtube?

I like nyanners singing, sue me

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:53:16 2021 No.1949096

>>1949022
>Who actually gives a shit about this though.
People who value integrity and honesty do.
>Therefore I don't think there's an actual reason to hate nyanners.
I hate dishonest hypocrites. And as the cherry on top, she ruined Vshojo and is about to ruin even more Vtubers in the future as well.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:55:35 2021 No.1949164

>>1948974
Do you know for a fact she posted those messages. Did you see her fingers hit the keyboard and write those words?

Because hypothetically I could just say it wasn't really her and provide proof that it was someone else and you'd still be mad.

You're emotional about this subject and I'm telling you she's more justifiably emotional about child sexualization than you are justifiably angry about her not condemning an issue more than she does.

This is literally the premise of why you're mad. I don't know how you can say she's wrong when her most recent statement is her saying it makes her uncomfortable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:56:18 2021 No.1949183 >>1949063 >insults people who do X as disgusting pedophiles >collabs with somebody who does X for money yeah she's a hypcorite alright. fuck her and her retarded fans who keep spamming this board despite her explicitly saying not to do this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:57:51 2021 No.1949227 >>1944644 >>sold out to china >literally never happened That did happen though. The only logical reason for the tour to be with Nyanners is because they can't use anyone from Hololive because it'd piss off China.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:58:16 2021 No.1949240

>>1949096
Integrity and honestly with regards to fictional drawings? Seems like a pretty low hill to die on. Maybe if she openly said she hates niggers or supports the arson against small businesses, yeah sure I'd start to see it that way.
>And as the cherry on top, she ruined Vshojo and is about to ruin even more Vtubers in the future as well.
This is an opinion but I'll respect that. I think this collab is going to be yet another attempt at life support for Kizuna Ai and I don't think that's a bad thing.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 13:58:20 2021 No.1949241

>>1949164
>Because hypothetically I could just say it wasn't really her and provide proof that it was someone else and you'd still be mad.
Strawman.
>than you are justifiably angry about her not condemning an issue more than she does.
That's not the issue. I and other people have said ad nauseum what the real issue is.
>This is literally the premise of why you're mad.
No it's your silly strawman.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:00:48 2021 No.1949293

>>1949241
It's not a strawman because you've literally never even spoke to her, you're looking at screengrabs of things we think she's typed and you're mad over them.

Yes it is because if it hadn't happened you wouldn't be mad and if it was something like her hating dogs but she actually loves dogs you wouldn't care so obviously it's an important issue to you.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:01:02 2021 No.1949300

>>1949227
>The only logical reason for [x] to not collab with [holo] is because china
Why are holobronies like this?
She's going on a burger tour through burgerstan, so she's going with a burger vtuber. Unfortunately pink cat is the best burgers have to offer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:04:45 2021 No.1949359 >>1949300 If you ignore that HoloEN has Americans in it, yes.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:05:23 2021 No.1949370

>>1949293
>t's not a strawman because you've literally never even spoke to her, you're looking at screengrabs of things we think she's typed and you're mad over them.
Yes and if it turned out that there is somebody else behind these things, then I would be mad at that person and not her. Your hypothetical is a silly strawman.
> if it was something like her hating dogs but she actually loves dogs you wouldn't care
Also wrong. Is your tactics really just making up positions for me so you can refute them in lieu of responding to what I'm ACTUALLY saying? If so, then have fun on your own since you apparently don't need my input for this conversation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:05:42 2021 No.1949378 >>1942490 call me when she does a collab with papa AO

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:06:26 2021 No.1949393 >>1949227 Well that's not the only possible reason, they probably wanted to collab specifically with an american vtuber agency for a US tour. They also wouldn't really want to boost her closest competition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:08:07 2021 No.1949440 >>1949293 You should really rethink your position when the best defence you have for someone's actions is "w-well maybe it's actually all made up and they didn't do those things", as if there was any chance of that being the case.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:09:55 2021 No.1949471

>>1949370
Bull fucking shit. if you knew it was someone else behind those things you would need to deconstruct everything you think you know about her to the point where her online image wouldn't be real anymore because if it's happened once it can happen again with more people but you've even conceded that
>then I would be mad at that person and not her.
you'd need to direct your anger to something because you're emotional.

I'm saying you're upset over an abstract idea in the same way that she doesn't like pedo shit, that's it.

I'm saying the scale of what she lies about matters, an innocuous lie obviously doesn't unless you're actually obsessed with her and updating the wiki.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:10:08 2021 No.1949473

>>1949440
The silly point he's trying to make is that I hate Nyanners not because of what she did but because I hate her for no reason whatsoever, because he claims I would still hate her if it was proven to me that she never did any of these things. At least I think that's what he's trying to say.
Yes, it's retarded either way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:10:50 2021 No.1949488 File: 285 KB, 1668x2048, D7D22B40-3A06-450B-B891-7E4287F1B434.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942490 i like nyanners and i think she is funny. But im not going to stop reading ComicLO. I also love Kiara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:11:06 2021 No.1949492 >>1949471 >if you knew it was someone else behind those things Except it isn't, it was Nyanners, which is why people hate her. QED.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:11:54 2021 No.1949509 >>1949451 thanks based bunny

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:12:03 2021 No.1949520 File: 28 KB, 1095x859, 1613194290932.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1949492 I don't hate her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:12:39 2021 No.1949555 >>1942490 I hope she kill herself

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:14:10 2021 No.1949595

>>1949440
>>1949492
Literally read what I'm saying and use your brain for one second.

She makes anon upset
Child sexualization makes nyanners upset

Anon isn't justifiably upset at her because he doesn't know anything about her other than what she portrays online. That's it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:14:10 2021 No.1949596
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>Person is disliked because of X
>"Yeah well if person didn't do X you wouldn't have a reason to dislike them"
>This is supposed to be some amazing argument that shows you shouldn't dislike person even though they did do X

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:14:49 2021 No.1949617 File: 246 KB, 543x425, EA42162D-5095-45AF-A5FD-E940E3DBC93A.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i dont care what nyanners “said” people can “say” anything to provide cover. Her “actions” are those of a hentai degen who enjoys jilling to cunny

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:15:42 2021 No.1949643 >>1949595 You are a fucking moron who chooses to completely ignore that she has a documented history of lies and hypocrisy which continues to this day and that she makes no separation between her IR and online persona unlike basically any other vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:16:44 2021 No.1949678 >>1949617 That's likely true, but she should just shut the fuck up about it and ignore it instead of making a show out of condemning it for good girl points.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:17:20 2021 No.1949696 >>1949643 >documented history of lies Can you post said history of lies? Or is it just shit you made up in your head?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:17:21 2021 No.1949699

I don't dislike her for backing down and trying to save face or whatever
I dislike her for pandering to 4chan in the first place
Imagine doing retarded loli voices for a crumb of attention from people from here of all places
Pomf was always embarassing and i totally understand why she'd try to erase that
She was pathetic then and she is pathetic now

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:17:59 2021 No.1949714

>>1948778
It's always funny how westerners act as if erotic drawings are some kind of "threat" to children. Japan is one of the safest places on earth for a child, whereas western countries are infested with subhuman rapists. All international child trafficking rings have their roots in Central or Northern Europe.

>you can't even understand why people would be upset about children being sexualized when children get molested and people have been molested as children.
I think you're virtue signaling, which is a retarded thing to do on an anonymous forum.
What people are upset about isn't the "idea" of "children being sexualized", it's how uncomfortable looking at lolicon erotica makes them feel, which is a completely meaningless reason to criticize anything, otherwise no art would ever be acceptable.
It has nothing to do with children being, having been or "potentially being" fucked, it's about how the depiction of such an act grosses them out and makes them instinctively angry. They just don't wanna look at it, hear about it or think about it, period.
Nobody really gives a shit about kids; if people really cared, they'd be in the streets demanding the heads of half the people in their governments.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:18:04 2021 No.1949717

>>1949471
>Bull fucking shit. if you knew it was someone else behind those things you would need to deconstruct...
No. All I would need to do is acknowledge that somebody else is the legitimate target of my ire. Nyanshit would be irrelevant at that point.
>I'm saying you're upset over an abstract idea in the same way that she doesn't like pedo shit, that's it.
Except that I am consistent whereas she is not, which is the important bit.
>I'm saying the scale of what she lies about matters
Suppose a person was told that if he pressed a red button in front of him, a billion innocent children would be tortured. Suppose further that person sincerely believed this to be true. Suppose finally that it's all a lie and nothing really happens when the button is pushed. If the person pushes it eagerly and without any coercion, is he a bad person? He didn't really harm anybody by pushing it, afterall. However, he sincerely believes that he did and nevertheless did so eagerly. Obviously that person is just as bad as somebody who really caused a billion kids to be tortured, since he has the same disposition. So if Nyanshit does something she herself believes to be causing harm, she must be a bad person. There's no way around it, regardless of whether or not that thing really causes harm.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:19:13 2021 No.1949741

>>1949643
What you read online isn't a "documented history" you fucking moron. You think a historian is going through blog posts with a fine tooth comb, like "ah yes today nyanners said X". Holy shit you're fucking deranged.

Also keep in mind, you're completely circumvented MY argument and are trying to justify being mad at a vtuber over her feelings about child sexualization which is the crux of what you're mad over. I just want to remind you of how fucking deranged you are, in case you don't realize.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:20:03 2021 No.1949771 >>1949696 That she lied about being familiar with Nekopara was already posted in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:20:11 2021 No.1949774 >>1949699 Same here.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:21:12 2021 No.1949804

>>1949293
>you've literally never even spoke to her
This is always a good point to keep in mind not just with Nyanners but basically every vtuber or online personality, you don't actually know them and what they truly think. Vtubers are essentially just entertainers and you can only properly judge them based on their ability to entertain, you don't know them personally enough to judge them based on anything deeper than that and it's a waste of time to try and decipher how exactly they feel about loli or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:21:48 2021 No.1949813 >>1949596 Boggles the mind, doesn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:21:49 2021 No.1949814 >>1949771 Not a lie. Next. Or is that the only one?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:22:07 2021 No.1949823
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>>1949678
well im going to have to be honest. I would do the same thing to get people of my scent. Because i have literal terabytes of lolicon and incest doujins and eroge. I wouldn’t want to ever be publicly exposed.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:22:10 2021 No.1949826

>>1949741
>you're completely circumvented MY argument and are trying to justify being mad at a vtuber over her feelings about child sexualization
No, I'm mad at her for being a hypocrite. If she condemned loli and wasn't actually a lolicon herself who loves Ootsuka Reika and who didn't profit off of portraying a loli character and do stupid shit like play Nekopara on stream or voice a loli prostitute in a fandub one would be able to accept that she just doesn't like loli. Instead she chooses to make a show of hating loli while profiting off of it, and anyone who accepts such blatantly hypocritical behaviour is simply a white knight who refuses to acknowledge an obvious character flaw which is worthy of criticism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:23:13 2021 No.1949846 >>1949814 >Not a lie. How?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:23:21 2021 No.1949850 >>1949826 Based and argumentpilled

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:24:01 2021 No.1949864 >>1949555 This would be so sweet. Imagine her doing it during her stream with her avatar and everybody thinks it's just a bit. But then the stream doesn't end and she just keeps being silent while her avatar just hangs there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:25:04 2021 No.1949887 >>1949826 based ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:25:58 2021 No.1949904 File: 560 KB, 512x512, AWAY.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >another Nyanners thread AWAY

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:26:12 2021 No.1949914 I was already sick of her attention whoring 10 years ago and i'm sick of it now

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:26:40 2021 No.1949920

>>1949714
I think it's funny that I aksed.

Hey, good argument you can use the same for him and tell him he isn't really mad about nyanners. Feel free to get on that mr enlightened and unbiased on the topic of the depiction child sexualization.
>>1949717
Holy shit you're dense, I'm saying it could be different people, and your anger is directed at "hypocrisy" right? you don't even know if that person is being hypocritical at that point! what are you talking about!

You can point out inconsistencies, but you're way invested in this, so to me it isn't just that anymore.

>Obviously that person is just as bad as somebody who really caused a billion kids to be tortured
No? It's possible they just didn't believe you.

SHe said she thinks it reinforces their gross beliefs in 2015, her most recent statement was that it's uncomfortable and gross. That's it.

Are you saying she has to have to keep that position no matter what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:29:26 2021 No.1949972 >>1949699 This is why underage shouldn't be on 4chan, not just for everyone else but for their own sake too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:29:37 2021 No.1949975 >>1949771 >Phoning in some voicelines that a person sent to you on the internet in 2017 >Only 30min into the story happened Literally insignificant

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:29:51 2021 No.1949977

>>1949920
>Nyanners might not be a hypocrite because her social media accounts might actually be run by multiple people who aren't her so her hypocritical comments aren't actually hypocritical because they aren't really her, not that there's any reason whatsoever for anyone to believe this absolutely absurd idea
The absolute state of Nyanners white knights.
>SHe said she thinks it reinforces their gross beliefs in 2015, her most recent statement was that it's uncomfortable and gross.
Just ignore that she reinforces the same mentality every few months, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:31:47 2021 No.1950015 >>1949826 When did she say she hated lolis?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:32:06 2021 No.1950018

>>1949975
>Claim that you had no familiarity with the series outside of what you'd heard of it and playing the opening ten minutes at some point in the past
>When in reality you'd worked on a fandub of the game which covered more than you claimed
This is a blatant lie no matter how you try to spin it as not being significant. Especially since the context is her claiming she didn't know that it was weird and would make people uncomfortable, which she really should have known from her experience with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:32:14 2021 No.1950024 I know it's tempting but can you guys stop arguing with the schizo with a slipping sense of reality, it's really not worth your time to give him attention. He's either retarded or trolling and either way you're not doing him any favors.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:32:17 2021 No.1950027

>>1949920
>I'm saying it could be different people
Wasn't that a hypothetical? If you're honestly suggesting that, then you're retarded as >>1949440 pointed out.
>No? It's possible they just didn't believe you.
Re-read what I wrote until everything is clear: "Suppose further that person sincerely believed this to be true."
>Are you saying she has to have to keep that position no matter what?
Since she hasn't publicly changed it, it's fair to assume she still holds it. And it would be her fault for not clarifying things if this wasn't the case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:33:08 2021 No.1950051 >>1950015 >>1947842

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:34:15 2021 No.1950071 Why do people care about this whore again?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:35:26 2021 No.1950113
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you guys must have spent 10000 times more brainpower arguing about stupid shit than nyanners formulating her stance on loli. And what's the point. Did she influence the industry to draw less loli, are you unable to shoot your goo to drawn underaged girls? For a bunch of supposedly oldfags who should know how to hide and filter, I just see that you fucking LOVE to come back and argue ad infinitum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:35:37 2021 No.1950119 >>1949699 How is pink cat still pathetic to you now though? She ceased being a naive teenaged pick-me girl to 4chan's old hivemind years ago.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:36:45 2021 No.1950149

>>1949826
key word here being condemned, past tense.

Have you considered that there's a lack of separation between these things in the anime community and that idea is what's making her uncomfortable?

She herself even condemned her own past actions so I don't know how you can hold them against her if your issue is consistency. sounds like you're just mad.

>>1949977
Dud your response is hilarious but I'd like it better if you had something worth saying in there.
>>1950027
Your logic is flawed in the hypothetical proving you're just mad because what your saying doesn't make any fucking sense.

Your hypothetical is pretty fucking stupid anyway because it requires world ending magic and genocide and mine just requires account sharing. Like what, she was mad over children in anime and more recently it just grosses her out.

Not really because she hasn't repeated the same sentiment while touching on the same topic more recently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:37:30 2021 No.1950167 >>1950113 it fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:40:21 2021 No.1950236 >>1950051 >"People took that post to mean that I am anti any loli" Why would you keep that in your newspaper clippings if it hurts your propoganda of her hating lolis

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:45:02 2021 No.1950324 >>1950018 can you post the quote that her voice acting like 10 lines contradicts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:49:40 2021 No.1950395 they're not coping at all, they're having a fucking meltdown

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:49:41 2021 No.1950396

>>1950119
I admit that her numbers are impressive now but it's just such a black dot on someone's character
You just can't deny that attention whoring is in her blood because that's how her story started
If i was her i'd be happy about my fame, sure, but how it started would always be a sour spot

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:51:17 2021 No.1950417 >>1950113 The only oldfag that I could possibly imagine lurking on the normalfagfest that is contemporary 4chan's /vt/ board is Nyanners herself desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:54:21 2021 No.1950466 File: 429 KB, 542x572, 1616701727206.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nyanners fans trying to explain why loli is bad and why she isn't a hypocrite despite doing multiple things associated with lolicon is always hilarious

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:54:39 2021 No.1950473 Reminder that everyone talks about Nekopara, but most people don't know about her loli prostitute fandub of VA-11 HALL-A's Dorothy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 14:57:30 2021 No.1950527 >>1950113 >supposedly oldfags Prety sure the only oldfag here is Nyanners herself, and she became an attentionwhore as most oldfags that became a personality. Only one I think could beat her is if Boxxy became a vtuber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:01:23 2021 No.1950570 >2 irrelevant people doing something together I'm doing quite fine thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:05:41 2021 No.1950635 >>1950236 >Specifically says that she still hates lolis being sexualised >Continues to deal with sexualised lolis You're not very bright, are you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:05:46 2021 No.1950639 >>1950527 >Only one I think could beat her is if Boxxy became a vtuber. Or better yet, Cracky-chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:06:52 2021 No.1950660 >>1950324 >>1698910

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:07:17 2021 No.1950667 File: 345 KB, 1640x2360, 1616872037169.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1950639 Or even the legend itself.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:09:52 2021 No.1950701

>>1950149
>key word here being condemned, past tense.
She never stopped though.
>Have you considered that there's a lack of separation between these things in the anime community and that idea is what's making her uncomfortable?
She doesn't say that though, she just conflates the two as though they're the same herself while hypocritically profiting off of loli content and working with people who promote it, which to her should be the same as working with someone who advocates for actual CP.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:10:24 2021 No.1950715
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>>1950324
>>1950660
>>I knew about Nekopara because of the memes and I figured it was weird but I didn't think it was that weird even though the catgirl slavery shit is already explained in the first ten minutes of the first game which I said I played before
>first ten minutes
>she made a fandub of at least 30 minutes
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:11:58 2021 No.1950738 >>1950667 Holy shit. That would actually be a godlike move.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:12:07 2021 No.1950743 File: 28 KB, 245x369, 1615740930152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1950667 I'm both incredibly terrified and extremely excited at the thought of CWC vtubing as Sonichu

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:12:11 2021 No.1950746 >>1950715 The fandub was for vol 0 actually, which I think was the third game released. So you're a little off the mark, but either way her claim of not knowing is bullshit on two fronts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:14:44 2021 No.1950788 >>1950635 >Thinks 'hating lolis being sexualized' is the same as 'hating lolis as a whole' Slosh on, my waterbrained friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:16:24 2021 No.1950822 >>1950788 But she's the one sexualising them you massive smoothbrain. She's a loli herself who says poo pee jokes. Essentially "rules for me but not for thee"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:16:43 2021 No.1950827 >>1942808 Yeah kizuna ai has pretty much milked all of the JP speaking fans she could get. Now she needs EN speakers. Only way she could break 3 mil before Gura.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:18:03 2021 No.1950844

>>1950701
she never KEPT condemning it, she just doesn't like it. that's difference. Not liking something is different from condemning it.

That happened in her earlier condemnation and wasn't brought up after even though it keeps getting shoved in her face for
>there's a lack of separation between these things in the anime community
This reason right here. If she felt that way now and was saying that now, it'd be different but that happened in 2015, what she's said more recently is that it's weird and uncomfortable which is obviously miles apart when you're conflating the two things.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:21:11 2021 No.1950897

>>1950844
>weird and uncomfortable
What you're implying is that that just makes her a blatant liar. She would never collab with people whom she find "weird and uncomfortable", and especially she would never appear to look like one. But the fact is, she does

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:23:01 2021 No.1950926 >>1950788 I'm not even arguing against the sexualizing lolis bit lmao, it's you that can't seem to get that her hating loli as a whole is a reach and a half. Please call your doctor for a refill of your meds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:23:29 2021 No.1950935 >>1950715 >first game you're more retarded than i thought i'm done here

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:24:19 2021 No.1950951 >>1942490 Kizuna Ai is washed up

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:25:00 2021 No.1950970 >>1950466 This is why Nyannerfags need to be purged from here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:25:41 2021 No.1950986 >>1942490 I really feel bad for Kizuna. Can't believe an idol has to stoop so low.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:26:04 2021 No.1950995

>>1950844
>she never KEPT condemning it
Yes she did you moron, look at the dates on those fucking posts. She demonstrated the same views she had back in 2015 in 2019 and again in 2020, still condemning loli for the same reasons while still continuing to profit off of it in that period and until now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:26:11 2021 No.1950996 >>1950926 Meant for (You) >okay my brain might be a little polished as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:26:42 2021 No.1951009 >>1945874 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:27:06 2021 No.1951019 >>1950926 >>1950788 >Thinks 'hating lolis being sexualized' is the same as 'hating lolis as a whole' You're the only one who thinks this is what's being said, while ignoring the actual problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:28:10 2021 No.1951035 >>1945874 >>1951009 Guys, Nozomi took ownership of Ai after the multiple VAs debacle backfired on the company, it's her managing the character now.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:29:31 2021 No.1951064

>>1950897
>there's a lack of separation between these things in the anime community.

You can have friends and talk to people that have beliefs and ideas that make you uncomfortable but in the anime community especially, if you are outspoken with this topic, you aren't gonna be able to talk to a lot of people if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lOXT_GVr-k
You gonna shut down people like this, because yeah they aren't hurting anyone but it's really fucking uncomfortable for people that want to circumvent them.

>>1950995
Condemnation is stronger than just dislike.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:30:09 2021 No.1951076 >>1942490 Nyanners is a compromise. Ai would collab with HoloEN in a heartbeat if she could. That's how I cope

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:35:00 2021 No.1951180
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>>1951064
Who is that retard even? (i'm not talking about digi) He's not from the "anime community" and looks like an sjw tard. The ones in the anime community are the ones who appreciate loli like Gigguk or TheAnimeMan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:36:59 2021 No.1951225 >>1951180 Both people you mentioned are ironic weebs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:37:51 2021 No.1951252 >>1951064 he's like a right-wingish guy holding a podcast I think?. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us-iPNIfCqg This was him, he's mellowed out but he's not an SJW.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:38:33 2021 No.1951268 >>1951064 Now you're just arguing that it's fine that she doesn't stick to her principles because that'd be "hard". Why should anyone like her for that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:38:50 2021 No.1951273 >>1951225 I never said they weren't ironic weebs >>1951252 Then no one cares. That's like asking boomers what their opinions are on violent and gory video games. They can piss off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:38:56 2021 No.1951280 >>1950149 >Your hypothetical is pretty fucking stupid anyway because it requires world ending magic and genocide and mine just requires account sharing >doesn't understand what the point of thought experiments is ok retard, bye.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:40:01 2021 No.1951299 File: 26 KB, 589x172, hey wait a second isn't sagiri also a young girl in a highly sexualised work which even got banned in Australia for sexualising minors.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1951180 >Sagiri

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:41:39 2021 No.1951338 >>1951273 >boomers More like Reddit journalists. They are now defending the censorship of violent video games.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:41:48 2021 No.1951342
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>>1942490
I really want to like her like before OP but every time she makes a reference to the past like her stupid Apology video that's an obvious attack to me personally as the unashamed lolicon I am... she just kills my boner. I can't watch a chuuba that cannot even give me a proper boner.

If and only IF by any chance she decides to make even a small subtle but honest apology, I might unzip dick once again and enjoy her channel like I used to.

Until then for what I care she can swallow chewing gums and die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:43:16 2021 No.1951369 >>1951299 That just proves Nyanners was lying about not knowing anything about Nekopara lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:43:55 2021 No.1951388 File: 34 KB, 567x565, 1612388464607.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1951338 Are we really coming full circle back to the violent video game schtick? How do we escape this loop?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:44:41 2021 No.1951404

>>1951268
I'm saying her beliefs now aren't even necessarily as strong as they used to be where before she was angry but now she's just uncomfortable but deals with it.
>>1951280
Thinking you did a harm and doing that harm is easy to understand. The hypothetical is bad because it's way exaggerating the harm that she actually did, which effectively came down to triggering people on the internet.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:45:27 2021 No.1951420
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>>1951225
>people who watch anime, go to cons, live in or want to go to japan, buy anime merch, learn japanese, absorb japanese culture, play jrpgs
>"lmao, that's not a weeb"
>hermetically seals his 37th 5L jar of semen he just spilled to loli incest doujins
>"this is what being a weeb is all about"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:46:18 2021 No.1951434 >>1942490 >THE Kizuna Ai Ai-chan has been reclining ever since she got chinked. This really says more about how badly Ai channel is doing rather than how well your 40 year old loli cosplayer is doing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:46:41 2021 No.1951439 File: 1009 KB, 1806x2275, pikacheers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1951420 >hermetically seals his 37th 5L jar of semen he just spilled to loli incest doujins That's not being a weeb, that's being based.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:46:52 2021 No.1951448

>>1951388
Purge the puritanistic SJW enablers. A lot of them were even denying the validity of the research towards violent video games. "Fiction affects reality" they said, but those same fucking niggerfaggots would praise rape porn like 50 shades of grey.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:47:18 2021 No.1951462 >>1951369 >you have to know the entire plotline to an entire series to want to cosplay a character i can't believe the excuses are getting even more pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:47:45 2021 No.1951473 File: 60 KB, 550x366, 1452161701440.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1951434 >when you realize nyanners is really already almost 30 holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:48:36 2021 No.1951489 >>1951462 >Wanting to cosplay a character from a work you don't know anything about That in itself is shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:48:42 2021 No.1951491 >>1951404 Wow you're so far away from understanding the thought experiment and its implications that all I can do is laugh at this point. Your brain must be smoother than a loli's cunny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:51:54 2021 No.1951572 >>1944629 I will Aka the Red-thing before the retarded pink cat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:53:08 2021 No.1951600 File: 76 KB, 220x208, 1616774312798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1951420 This but unironically

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:54:44 2021 No.1951632

>>1951491
You don't even understand my ideas let alone your own ideas.

killing people is the harm. Believing you've killed people is the perceived harm. Perceiving a harm and commiting it regardless is what's bad about the person commiting the act.

that person is massively worse than Nyanners is my issue, Nyanners commiting a harm because arguably it isn't even a harm where as killing and torturing innocent people is more of an objective harm because we are all people that don't want to die and be tortured..

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:55:01 2021 No.1951640 >>1951342 Well as for me I'm not even asking for an apology. She would regain my trust if she defends some lolicon/artist being harassed for minding their own business. I don't like nyanners because I don't trust her based on her stances.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:55:53 2021 No.1951659 >>1944611 Well if you look outside of 4chan then IronMouse gets no hate at all, the only hate Melody gets is from angry ethots, and plenty of people still shit on Nyanners. Hell, even the Japanese have been finding out about her and attacking her too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:57:34 2021 No.1951718 >>1951659 >even the Japanese Yeah even Chinese clippers as well, and a few SEA groups I'm into

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 15:58:25 2021 No.1951744

>>1951632
Anon I'm not even the guy who presented it but you're fucking retarded, the point is that in both cases the person's perceived harm is something they themselves acted to cause and that action shouldn't be defended whether the harm was real or not. Nyanners considers sexualising lolis to be harmful to real children yet participates in it anyway and works with people who encourage it, directly contradicting her own values and by those values she encourages the perceived harm of real children. How is that defensible?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:04:37 2021 No.1951897

>>1951744
It's disanalogous because you're looking at the most extreme act possible and ascribing morallity to that to create an objective harm whereas people here would actually defend her actions regardless of what she thinks because she's commited a more subjective and unqualifiable MORAL harm that we can look back on and think.
>Did she even really do anything.
>how many people know about this
>has someone commited sexual harm using her nekopara collab as a preprepared defense or means of commiting that act?

If the guy pressing the button thought murder and torture were good it wouldn't change the wrongness of his percieved harm because we have concrete harm being commited.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:05:15 2021 No.1951913 File: 950 KB, 1035x735, 1614550994710.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1949183 >her fans Oh, get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, you lying fuck. Her fans aren't spamming shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:06:25 2021 No.1951944 >>1951659 >plenty of people 10 people on twitter doesn't count

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:07:01 2021 No.1951960 >>1944351 Holy cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:08:47 2021 No.1952005 >>1949359 And there's still the New York event which hasn't had any announcements yet on who is joining Ai. Nyanners is only on the LA one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:09:24 2021 No.1952030 >>1949300 Imagine coping this hard, sad

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:14:52 2021 No.1952171

>>1951897
>unqualifiable harm
That's where I disagree. The harm she's committed is a dog whistle to undermining the core principles of freedom of speech by spreading misinformation about fiction, unjustly correlating them with real world circumstances and neglecting the surrounding context. It is not an unqualifiable harm, just look at the fake news being spread right now, and the damage that it's causing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:27:16 2021 No.1952455 >>1951718 Links? Images?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:27:58 2021 No.1952467

>>1951897
I was talking about perceived harm. so like let's say if we removed freedom of speech as a concept from the world but everything remained the same would that be a perceived harm?

the value in freedom of speech is that we can openly exchange ideas, not that it itself is sacred.

Also it's not really an unjust correlation, look at something like furries and I don't think you're going to find a lot of people that have literally fucked a wolf man, though there are people in the furry community that have fucked literal dogs and masturbate over actual dog anatomy.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:29:46 2021 No.1952505

>>1951897
No one is saying the two situations are the same degrees of harm you retard, you're missing the basic point despite having it just explained to you because you're too hung up on what the specific harm is when the problem is the indulgence in what Nyanners herself claims to be harmful. If you think that endorsing the sexualisation of lolis is the same as encouraging the abuse of real children there should not be a single excuse for you promoting the former despite this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:32:15 2021 No.1952551 File: 10 KB, 184x200, 1465660255063.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You all nyanners antis such lunatic faggots like this guy? https://youtu.be/rHULDOsMG9Y?t=158

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:34:07 2021 No.1952583 >>1952505 This guy gets it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:35:12 2021 No.1952603 >>1952551 >45 subscribers Stop advertising your nothing channel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:35:23 2021 No.1952607 >>1951897 You're not getting the common denominator. Hint: it's not the harm.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:35:55 2021 No.1952619

>>1952467
>>1952171

So like how many pedos are actually in the lolicon community?

I don't know but if lolicon didn't exist would there be less or more? it's hard to say either way. but the idea that the concepts hasn't influenced the behavior of how actual people treat actual children across all of anime weebdom is pretty far out there.

>>1952505
That's what I'm saying, they're objectively two different kinds of harm conceptually. If Nyanners was a devout lolicon, loved nekopara and saw nothing wrong with that then she still wouldn't have commited an objective harm regardless of anything.

The guy commited an action that can't be taken back and has real consequences, she commited an act that she can reflect on and weigh against reality and measure what happened against what she knows to be true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:36:05 2021 No.1952625 >>1951913 >Her fans aren't spamming shit They keep making these shitty threads, as if wanting to prove a point. It's either them, Queen Peepee Poopoo herself or just a bored troll that discovered she's as good a bait as Kiara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:37:02 2021 No.1952636 >>1952551 He sounds like he has a potpourri of mental damages but if he hates Nyanners, then I respect him for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:37:35 2021 No.1952648 I admire the dedication of Nyanners’ antis. You guys jump right into these threads every single time without thinking twice. I could definitely picture her coming here sometimes just to laugh at us. I know I would.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:38:40 2021 No.1952676 >>1952607 commiting an action knowing it would cause harm regardless of if it causes a harm is substantially different from committing a morally ambiguous act. Yes, even regardless of if the harm as actually committed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:39:13 2021 No.1952687 File: 105 KB, 270x270, 1615642279330.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1952648 I myself mostly just make one post shitting on her and move on. I admire dedication of the others though

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:39:34 2021 No.1952693

>>1952625
And which is the most likely, do you think, considering how many of these threads get made, how many antis it always attracts (whereas other Nyanners / VShojo threads do not), and is made at 6AM PST which is when the most active schizo Nyanners anti is most active?

The answer: Nyanners herself, clearly.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:39:34 2021 No.1952695

>>1952619
>That's what I'm saying, they're objectively two different kinds of harm conceptually.
Holy shit, you don't get it at all, there is no way to make this any simpler for you but you still completely miss the point.
>If Nyanners was a devout lolicon, loved nekopara and saw nothing wrong with that then she still wouldn't have commited an objective harm regardless of anything.
Yeah no shit, because there's nothing wrong with drawings. But Nyanners claims there is something wrong with drawings yet promotes them anyway.
>she commited an act that she can reflect on and weigh against reality and measure what happened against what she knows to be true.
What Nyanners thinks to be true is that promoting the sexualisation of drawings will result in real child abuse. By Nyanners' logic her own actions are resulting in the harm of real children. No, it doesn't matter that this obviously isn't actually happening, because Nyanners believes it's happening regardless, and yet takes such actions anyway. That was the point of the guy's thought experiment; they believed that pushing the button would cause harm and pushed it anyway. That mentality, the point of the discussion, is no different to Nyanners' own. She claims there to be harm yet tries to profit off of the thing she believes causes harm when she can get away with it. That's reprehensible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:39:59 2021 No.1952704 >>1952648 Better than leaving a hugbox that will just mislead any passing newfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:41:30 2021 No.1952732 I trust nyanners to not make peepee poopoo jokes so I think it's a good opportunity for growing audiences for both parties. Love Kizuna Ai simple as

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:41:34 2021 No.1952733 File: 2 KB, 434x298, chiara.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1952693 >what is option 3

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:41:46 2021 No.1952741

>>1952695
It doesn't what she says or thinks at that moment you fucking retard.

One person needs to live with the consequences of knowing they would've tortured and murdered innocent people. Nyanners needs to live with the consequences of commiting a substantially less concrete harm

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:43:45 2021 No.1952781

>>1952741
>Still focusing on the specific harm instead of the mentality when the latter is the focus of this entire discussion as has been pointed out to you a dozen times
Alright, I get it, you refuse to acknowledge the actual argument because you know that's not defensible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:44:52 2021 No.1952803 >>1952781 I'm saying the mentality doesn't matter because the analogy is flawed fundamentally. You are arguing with no one because I didn't say whatever the fuck you're saying. I'm not humoring it because it's bad faith.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:45:17 2021 No.1952810 >>1950667 I really, really, really like the implications of this.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:45:31 2021 No.1952811

>>1952619
Concepts definitely has influence but that is extremely dependent on the context of the situation. Telling someone you're going to bomb someone's house in minecraft isn't a death threat up until you say that you want to bomb the whitehouse or commit school shooting. Both have the same principles of inflicting death but under different contexts. The problem with nyanners is that she completely ignores the context of the situation and by principle, equates bombing a minecraft house to bombing the white house under her preconceived misconceptions of the human psychology. What's worse is that she's spreading this fake news.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:46:05 2021 No.1952824

>>1952704
>your options are hugbox threads or disingenuous schizophrenic anti hate threads

Except there's no such thing as hugbox threads on 4chan. Even /aco/ or the VShojo+ general have criticisms. We're not against being critical when one of them does something we don't like, and we were not all that pleased with Nyanners over Nekopara, not because of the game (because nobody gives a fuck about Nekopara), but because of the why. So, hugboxes are for Discord. They don't exist here.

So if you prefer this, then have fun with it, but you're retarded if you think the only alternatives are positivity circlejerks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:46:21 2021 No.1952829 >>1952676 both believe they do something bad but nevertheless do it. that's what was being illustrated. how do you not get this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:50:18 2021 No.1952888 she's the epitome of an annoying attention whore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:51:07 2021 No.1952909 File: 21 KB, 476x296, 1605895068501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1952824 >we >/pmg/ is not a no criticism hugbox >VShojo threads are not filled with people felating their streamers

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:51:12 2021 No.1952916

>>1952811
Dumb it down for me, what .
>>1952829
for the murderer guy there's nothing to reflect on or weigh against. he's a bad person that just wanted to fucking kill people.

Nyanners shared ideas on a platform that may or may not have influenced people, we don't know.

Miles apart, not an argument. the first guy would have commited real concrete harm and we don't even know if nyanners has commited a harm to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:52:20 2021 No.1952936 >>1951420 Wrong. It's 73 jars including the one I just filled up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:54:14 2021 No.1952969 File: 266 KB, 905x881, 1435499812280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1952732 don't kid yourself it's gonna be scripted as fuck and pre-recorded at least 8 hours before. Nyanners and kizuna will wake up after a nap for the afterparty.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:56:58 2021 No.1953022

>>1952916
A more comparable perceived harm is that if he was given the same button but instead was told anything in the world could happen if he pressed the button but pressing the button made him feel better.

is he morally culpable for pressing the button if something bad happens directly caused by the button being pressed

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 16:58:48 2021 No.1953058 >>1952704 >Better than leaving a hugbox that will just mislead any passing newfag. Said the newfag, in the middle of their autistic crusade to indoctrinate newerfags into their own circlejerk.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:01:48 2021 No.1953102

>>1952916
That doesn't make any sense. Your logic is that everything is harmful because you think it is, not because there is objective evidence. The other guy is correct about nyanners committing an ideological harm to freedom of speech because the evidence is quantifiable (misinformation). Whereas you're trying to equate context correlation = causation which is no better than the hitler drank water fallacy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:02:37 2021 No.1953109 >>1942863 >Remote Nah, the lag would be unforgivable for singing. It's why all karaoke collabs are off-collabs. They'll have to be in the next room.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:03:28 2021 No.1953129 >>1953102 >context I meant concept* fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:03:30 2021 No.1953131 >>1953102 I'm not arguing against the harm he thinks was commited because that's a rabbit hole of insanity. I'd rather just stick with the facts because I don't care about his mental illness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:06:07 2021 No.1953179 File: 28 KB, 600x600, moona peek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1953058 Said the discordfag, in the middle of his autistic crusade to convince everyone that Nyanners did nothing wrong. Also >their *They're

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:08:09 2021 No.1953224 File: 548 KB, 242x150, dbh456456456.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >nyanners >"harm" >NOOOOOOOO, NUT MY CUNNNNYYY CUMMMIIIIIIEEEESSSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:12:37 2021 No.1953323 and the cancer keeps spreading. vtubers were a mistake. back to anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:15:10 2021 No.1953381 >>1953323 Some /a/nons are here. Even Kotonoha shrine got sucked, and some mangaka are trying it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:18:12 2021 No.1953447 >>1953179 I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. Nyanderthals and Nyantis both have their minds already made up and neither will ever back down. These threads are, and always will be, nothing but a cacophony of autism beam noises.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:19:26 2021 No.1953472 >>1949823 Why the fuck do you download any porn at all? That shit is available for free online at all times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:19:53 2021 No.1953482 >>1952824 >Even /aco/ or the VShojo+ general have criticisms. lolno, any criticism on /aco/ gets deleted by the mods, that thread's just for jerking off both literally and figuratively.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:21:56 2021 No.1953530 >>1953482 >any criticism on /aco/ gets deleted by the mods the only person who ever gets his shit deleted is the guy that complains about literally everything, then when no one agrees gets mad and spams nux.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:22:37 2021 No.1953539 >>1953447 Point, but now I want to talk about something you wrote without noticing >>1953058 >their Why would you do this?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:22:40 2021 No.1953540

>>1953131
>I'd rather just stick with the facts because I don't care about his mental illness.
Ok, so the facts are that Nyanners thinks loli drawings and real child abuse are one and the same, yet built her entire brand on the sexualisation of lolis and tries to profit off of it when she can get away with it, only backpedalling on it when she gets called out, and actively works with multiple people who support what she considers the abuse of real children. What part of this is defensible?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:24:06 2021 No.1953566 [DELETED]

>>1942490
Who the fuck cares about Kizuna AI? She's been in the vtuber game since the beginning and is about to lose her crown to Gura who's only been around for 6 months. Even then, Nyanners isn't the biggest vtuber from her group, it's Mousey and Melody.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:26:06 2021 No.1953608 >>1953566 Gurafag here, that's wrong. AI is making bank in off-stream stuff like concerts and merch. She's even in Walmart ads.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:26:26 2021 No.1953616
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>>1942490
Who the fuck cares about Kizuna AI? She's been in the vtuber game since the beginning and is about to lose her crown to Gura who's only been around for 6 months. Even then, Nyanners isn't the biggest vtuber from her group, it's Mousey and Melody.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:27:07 2021 No.1953629 >>1950746 Are you talking about the recent one that got cancelled, or the one she did before? Or were both for volume 0?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:29:10 2021 No.1953669

>>1953616
>Who the fuck cares about Kizuna AI? She's been in the vtuber game since the beginning and is about to lose her crown to Gura who's only been around for 6 months.
See >>1953608. Maybe if you only count YT subscribers, since Cover is very retarded when it comes to promotion in the west.
>Even then, Nyanners isn't the biggest vtuber from her group, it's Mousey and Melody
Can't argue against that. One basically pioneered a style of camwhoring and the other is cute as fuck.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:29:22 2021 No.1953678

>>1953616
Initially I figured that Mouse didn't get picked because her health problems made a show impossible, but she just got a 3D model recently so who the fuck knows.

>>1953629
The fandub she did years ago was for Vol 0. The recent streams were for Vol 2. She wasn't specific about which one she played "the first ten minutes of" before, but it's logical to assume it was either 0 or 1, yet she completely memory holed the fandub when talking about that, which makes it more likely it was 1.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:30:41 2021 No.1953720

>>1949823
Unbased and cringe. That's some betacuck mentality you've got there my dude. Even vtubers have more balls than you. Go out there and advertise yourself to as much people who share your interests.

>>1953472
Not him but because I want to play them, silly. I wouldn't be able to play them if I don't download them in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:33:22 2021 No.1953785

>>1953540
Those aren't the facts, those are selective facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdTQa6W1ggk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dH-vBtd7Rs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuw6KBc6ie4

Her entire brand is not built off of sexualizing lolis and whether or not she profited off of anything doesn't matter, no one owes you shit if you liked their videos and thought they were genuine and they turned out to be someone else. she made videos, a video is just a video.

She did the pomf song , acknowledged it, apologized for it and still thinks lolicon sex thing is shit, you can look back on things you've done and say "hey that was shit" and move on, whether or not you benefited from it financially is largely misdirection because she's benefited financially from a lot of different content and is now benefitting the most from non-loli content.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:35:22 2021 No.1953839

>>1953785
>you can look back on things you've done and say "hey that was shit" and move on
Except she didn't, she went out of her way to say lolicon = pedo. She could've just said "I used to do these videos, but I don't wanna anymore".
>is now benefitting the most from non-loli content
While keeping her loli-esque avatar.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:38:19 2021 No.1953914
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>>1953785
She never apologized for anything lol
You're delusional

And she's definitely raking in that lolicon money
If she didn't then she would've dropped the whole nyanners name in the first place and be someone else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:39:38 2021 No.1953942 >>1953839 >she went out of her way to say lolicon = pedo. wow she said something true, how awful

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:41:19 2021 No.1953980 >>1953942 >pedo agreeing and defending nyanner again with 2d = 3d fallacy Why are nyannercucks like this?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:41:42 2021 No.1953991

>>1953839
In her opinion she was right at the time, I don't know what she thinks now but she probably isn't a fan.

Her persona is based on anime, anime isn't loli, anime is anime.

Don't try to co-opt an entire culture into your fetish.
>>1953914
"I'm really sorry for making it in the first place"

Maybe we have a different definition.

Everyone knows who Nyanners is outside of the lolicon stuff, she did other videos, that's my point.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:41:44 2021 No.1953993

>>1953669
true on Kizuna making bank outside streaming, but even then you can't say that she will be at the top for much longer, it doesn't help the og VA left. Cover may be bad at promotion, but do they really need to? When you have western twitter and youtube promoting clips, gifs, and memes everywhere why would they promote their idols when the internet can do it for free. Like for every Kizuna AI related media I see that x2 with Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:42:18 2021 No.1954010 >>1953914 >She should have torpedoed her career by abandoning her existing popularity because of some butthurt pedos on 4chan Genius. I cannot believe she's not taking advice from 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:42:26 2021 No.1954016 >>1953942 Don't you have someone to groom in your Nyanners discord? Go back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:42:56 2021 No.1954027 File: 437 KB, 1209x1899, EorbYEVW8AIMZjs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1953942 Pack up, everyone. The thread has come full circle now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:43:55 2021 No.1954054 >>1954010 If she were true to her values then yes she would've abandoned the name, but in the end she's just a clout chasing, hypocritical, untrustworthy whore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:43:58 2021 No.1954055 >And she's definitely raking in that lolicon money I think that says a hell of lot more about lolicons than it does about pink cat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:45:02 2021 No.1954075 >>1953980 That's like saying "I'm not sexually attracted to men, I'm just jacking of to drawings of men having sex"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:45:10 2021 No.1954077 >>1954055 They don't know about Nyanners' history and think shes just another loli vtuber doing loli things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:45:32 2021 No.1954085 >>1953993 I see your point but >it doesn't help the og VA left A reminder that this is not true, but the fact that people still believe it shows how damaging that incident was for her growth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:46:20 2021 No.1954104 >>1954055 it says more about nyanners antis' willingness to assert literally anything with no evidence

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:46:29 2021 No.1954106 >>1954075 But lolis in this case are the tomboys (fake men) instead of men because they have different audiences and different appeal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:49:01 2021 No.1954161 >>1954104 If anything, there have been plenty of evidence to support the antis, meanwhile there isn't any evidence to debunk Nyanner's hypocrisy.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:49:07 2021 No.1954165

A reminder that most "loli=pedo so loli bad" retards are actual pedos who hate themselves and can't believe that 3DPD is a thing, so they seek to satanize it because lolicons that don't hate themselves is unacceptable for them.

>>1954075
>I'm not sexually attracted to men, I'm just jacking of to drawings of men having sex
Once again, 3DPD. That applies to homos and lesbians.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:50:56 2021 No.1954204
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>nyanners using "loli" avatar
>cute anime catgirl with pink hair = that girl in my comics where the protag invites all his friends, drugs his 9 year old sister and gang-rapes her to death
you guys legit have zero cognitive dissonance here, don't you

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:52:11 2021 No.1954219 File: 84 KB, 240x240, eliisa-6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1954204 >that girl in my comics where the protag invites all his friends, drugs his 9 year old sister and gang-rapes her to death Source?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:52:30 2021 No.1954226

>>1942490
I don't care about either of them or the drama surrounding them but I hope this concert is a massive fucking success for the sole reason that Cover needs a giant boot up their arse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buUga6CCZVg
Look at this shit, it's fucking amazing compared to the the dross Cover's currently vomiting out and I hope they step up their game soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:52:46 2021 No.1954231 >>1954204 Man, you have weird comics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:54:04 2021 No.1954256 >>1954161 Ok. Please present your evidence that "she's definitely raking in that lolicon money". And no, claiming "I think she's a loli therefore her audience must be lolicons" is not a compelling argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:54:12 2021 No.1954262 >>1953785 >>1953991 Nyanners is the only person who pretends her avatar isn't a loli. Her own fanbase sure doesn't seem to think so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:55:45 2021 No.1954288 >>1954256 There are plenty of clippers out there, take your pick nigger. Even Chinese clippers considers her as loli and likes her for the fact that she acts loli.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:57:13 2021 No.1954314 >>1954256 Nigga majority of her fanbase thinks she's loli that at some point she had a rant on discord to stop calling her loli and considered changing her model

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:58:37 2021 No.1954340 >>1954314 The problem with that is that she also acts childishly, so what the fuck is even thinking. She clearly went after the lolicons while being contrarian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:58:47 2021 No.1954344 I wonder if the chinese are getting wind of Nyanners past considering only the ones outside mainland can even legally access and understand whatever gets posted here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 17:59:48 2021 No.1954367 >>1954204 Sorry, anon, all moeblobs are sex objects and exist solely for the sexual gratification of lolicons. Please understand that absolutely nobody else sees any sort of appeal in young, cutesy anime girls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:00:39 2021 No.1954384 >>1954340 She should just admit she's a lolicon, stand by that until her last dying breath and get this retarded drama over with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:00:53 2021 No.1954390 File: 23 KB, 685x288, 1438249148748.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1954367 >absolutely nobody else sees any sort of appeal in young, cutesy anime girls Objectively wrong.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:01:52 2021 No.1954416 [DELETED]

an anime character is kind of an ink-blot but I wouldn't say it's a loli avatar because she doesn't pretend to be a child while saying sexual stuff like in the pomf video, she just does a voice and does her thing. Same with Gura, her issue was with sexual loli stuff, not just having a young character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:02:21 2021 No.1954425 File: 240 KB, 1397x595, 1595854462842.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1954384 This. Ai's at the top and she can admit it, so Nyanners may as well join her.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:02:36 2021 No.1954433

>>1954288
>there's some chinese clippers, therefore she is raking in lolicon money
What kind of retard logic is this?

>>1954314
She was thinking of changing her model because /vt/ kept harassing her about being a loli. Nice try rewriting history though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:03:08 2021 No.1954440 >>1954367 Nyanners is a moeblob who makes sexual remarks for the sexual gratification of lolicons. She would drop the whole poo pee jokes schtick thing if she just wanted to appear pure and young.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:03:24 2021 No.1954445

>>1954433
>She was thinking of changing her model because /vt/ kept harassing her about being a loli. Nice try rewriting history though.
The irony.

>>1954416
>Same with Gura, her issue was with sexual loli stuff, not just having a young character.
Why are you pretending Gura has a problem with loli? Stop making shit up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:03:24 2021 No.1954446 >>1954416 I think you have completely zero idea what loli is, but that aside, what's with nyanner's million toilet video?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:03:38 2021 No.1954450

>>1954262
an anime character is kind of an ink-blot but I wouldn't say it's a loli avatar because she doesn't pretend to be a child while saying sexual stuff like in the pomf video, she just does a voice and does her thing. Same with Gura, her issue was with sexual loli stuff, not just having a young character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:03:45 2021 No.1954457 why is this board so obsessed with the chinese? even /pol/ wont talk this much about china.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:04:04 2021 No.1954460 >>1944351 Actual question, who's Nyanner's audience? I can't imagine anyone older than 18 actually watching her shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:05:01 2021 No.1954475 >>1954460 Under 15 and over 35 males, aka the magical girl audiance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:05:20 2021 No.1954483 >>1954460 Ironic weebs

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:05:27 2021 No.1954487 >>1954445 >Why are you pretending Gura has a problem with loli? Not that retard (who is >>1954450), but she did have a problem (felt embarassed) with sexual loli stuff (some idiot that made a clip of her RFA noises).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:05:46 2021 No.1954492 File: 315 KB, 1380x1276, asdaasd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GIVE ME MONEY

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:06:37 2021 No.1954507 >>1954487 >Gura feeling embarrassed that someone made a clip of her specifically making her RFA noises into a sexual clip is the same as Gura hating loli Fuck off, retard.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:06:48 2021 No.1954510

>>1954457
Unironically china is a big market and a big turning point if you want to get your brand out there, since the chinese clippers and subbers were what helped hololive keep their growth during their golden age and corona. But similarly they are your yoke because if you manage to offend them, the retribution will be brutal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:07:01 2021 No.1954517 >>1954487 But she didn't have a problem with the sexual fanart that she liked on twitter? wtf

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:07:57 2021 No.1954530 >>1954487 >>1954450 Fuck off with this stupid rrat niggerfaggot. Actually become a member and DO watch her streams and you'll see.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:08:21 2021 No.1954538

>>1954507
As I said, I'm not conflating the two. Gura just had a problem with that, which the other retard is somehow comparing with The Nyanners Question.

>>1954517
Probably because that's just fanart that someone else did, meanwhile the clip was from her own noises. Everyone gets embarassed of their own shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:10:25 2021 No.1954574 >>1954530 >Actually become a member and DO watch her streams and you'll see Illuminate us then. I know she did an ASMR yesterday, but previously she alluded to not wanting to do more RFA streams because of a certain video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:10:33 2021 No.1954580 >>1954390 >underestimating the overpowering appeal of youth and cuteness >in Japan, of all places That poor bastard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:10:38 2021 No.1954582 >>1954445 >>1954530 Oh my god stop I don't care about what gura thinks, I'm saying she does the same thing gura does where she has a young-looking avatar but she doesn't literally pretend to be a child or a loli, she just acts like herself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:11:35 2021 No.1954610 >>1954538 Nope, Gura never had any problem with lolis unlike Nyanners. If you actually watched her instead of spouting stupid nonsense, she was even teasing her audience various suggestive stuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:12:16 2021 No.1954625 >>1954582 >she just acts like herself So she never grew up? You say that's her real voice and mannerism as well, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:13:07 2021 No.1954642 >>1954610 >Gura never had any problem with lolis And I never said she had, I just said she got embarassed from the clip that had her own noises. She's been teasing her audience since day one with the thumbnail on her debut stream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:13:26 2021 No.1954651 >>1954625 she acts Gura stupid. Not literally the person behind Gura ACT. You fucking idiot. learn english.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:15:11 2021 No.1954696 >>1954651 Please understand. Nyanners fans don't understand why you would be a vtuber if you didn't use your "real self".

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:15:20 2021 No.1954701

>>1954582
>I'm saying she does the same thing gura does where she has a young-looking avatar but she doesn't literally pretend to be a child or a loli, she just acts like herself.
Which just happens to be presenting a loli-like character with a loli-like voice. The different is Gura doesn't sperg out about it being problematic while doing that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:15:44 2021 No.1954708 >>1954651 >she acts gura stupid >learn english teehee

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:17:05 2021 No.1954741 >>1954701 Gura even sexually teases her audience >>1954642 Not him but nah Considering that's Gura, the whole embarrassed thing sounds like a pretend She's naturally lewd as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:17:37 2021 No.1954755 >>1954507 >>1954538 Implying any of that matters. Gura does not sexualize herself on stream like Nyanshit so her stance on lolis is irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:18:41 2021 No.1954784 >>1954755 You clearly don't watch Gura Go back

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:18:41 2021 No.1954786 File: 26 KB, 1019x480, gura knows.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1954708 Gura is a prime example of high INT but low WIS. >>1954755 >Gura does not sexualize herself Anon, do you even watch her public streams?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:19:50 2021 No.1954812 File: 421 KB, 1084x664, 1599007584728.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1954755 Ah yes, welcome tourist

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:20:00 2021 No.1954816 >>1954460 Ironic twitch weebs and otaku subculture nerds who grew up on gaia online and RP forums instead of 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:21:21 2021 No.1954849 >>1954812 The background of the shrimp is a T o T face andyou won't convince me otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:21:39 2021 No.1954854 >>1954784 >>1954786 yes I watch her and at most she says stuff that is double-barreled, basically making puns. not quite the same as nyanshit going "FLOOD MY HOLE I AM SO HORNY!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:23:13 2021 No.1954897 >>1954854 Anon, sexualizing is not just about the explicit bob and vagena stuff from the west. It can also mean innuendos, which Gura use liberally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:23:13 2021 No.1954898 >>1954854 Nyanners is just poo pee without any substance and that's what makes her boring

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:23:38 2021 No.1954911 >>1954651 Not gura you room temperature IQ fag, you were talking about nyanners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:24:15 2021 No.1954922 >>1954854 Then you're a massive retard if you claim she's got nothing to do with anything sexual when even you know that yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:24:47 2021 No.1954933 literally who

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:25:51 2021 No.1954967 >>1954933 pink cat or 1/4?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:26:40 2021 No.1954991 >>1954922 She's """""sexual"""" in the same fucking sense that Looney Tunes or Animaniacs are sexual. She's completely child friendly unlike shit cat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:28:20 2021 No.1955046 >>1954741 Obviously both apply, maybe you just need everything spelled out to you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:29:11 2021 No.1955072 >>1954991 Not him but no shes definitely past looney tunes or animaniacs sexual. She's as sexual as memes can get without showing actual porn. In fact she even referenced actual porn herself on stream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:29:40 2021 No.1955091 >>1955046 >>1954911 meant to reply to this guy, my 4chanx is buggin. You were probably saying some stupid shit anyway too tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:32:08 2021 No.1955160 >Nyannerscucks are newfags, makes retarded claims and don't watch streams Absolutely revolting

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:32:12 2021 No.1955165 >>1955072 Fuck off, Gura is pure unlike the cat whore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:33:17 2021 No.1955190 >>1955165 Oh great, purityfags are here. Fuck off, Gura is definitely not as sexual as Nyanners, but she's a mesugaki on her own right. Did you even watch the ASMR yesterday?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:33:41 2021 No.1955198 >>1955165 Newfag detected

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:35:40 2021 No.1955241 >>1955165 Did you learn about Gura from Reddit memes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:38:03 2021 No.1955302 File: 1.03 MB, 4000x2249, polka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1955165 >I know meme shark from le ebin memes Polka despises your kind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:41:59 2021 No.1955394 Do people think for a second this isn't shitposting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:43:05 2021 No.1955425 >>1955302 the only thing polka despises is not being able to stuff her face 24/7

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:44:49 2021 No.1955466 File: 64 KB, 600x525, patrick.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1955394 No, this is Patrick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 18:49:15 2021 No.1955576 >>1955091 You are dumber than I thought.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 19:31:23 2021 No.1956534 >>1950827 It's sad how you think that she cares about this dispute when she's making tons of money with merchandise, sponsorship and everything.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 19:31:36 2021 No.1956536

I don't give a fuck about the shitposting or the autism you can find on this board, I am merely here to say that nyanners is honestly the cutest thing in the fucking world and no other vtuber can even begin to compare and her smile needs to be protected

that is all

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 19:34:04 2021 No.1956586 File: 136 KB, 938x657, you get used to it.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] aaaaaaaaaaaaand, as soon as >>1956510 was posted, two retards bit and came here just to be able to disprove that claim

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 19:57:03 2021 No.1957090 >>1954077 >They don't know about Nyanners' history Of all the lies you guys tell about Nyanners, this one is the most retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 19:58:08 2021 No.1957113 >>1954085 It shows more that retards don't fucking know shit but talk about it as if they do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:01:37 2021 No.1957212 >>1957090 That's true though. But he should've mentioned Dark History instead. If you think it's a lie then link me the stream where she openly she discusses about her hatred for loli

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:01:47 2021 No.1957218
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>>1957113
That's just how newfags are. You either just tell them to lurk moar or, if you're feeling generous, spoonfeed them while knowing that they may take that as validation of their non-lurking retardation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:04:02 2021 No.1957275 >>1955302 Considering polka wants to collab with vshojos, i would consider her hate a good sign

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:05:02 2021 No.1957309 >>1954460 Why the shit are you asking this question in an anti thread? Are you expecting actual answers? >>1954475 >>1954475 >>1954816 God I hope you weren't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:06:18 2021 No.1957348 File: 98 KB, 240x240, eliisa-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1957275 >unapologetic clipfag Kill yourself and die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:06:20 2021 No.1957350 >>1954510 If the Chinese reject Nyanners then I can't see that as anything but a win for Nyanners. Who the fuck wants to deal with that bullshit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:09:21 2021 No.1957437 >>1951659 Proof on Japanese hate? Mildly curious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:10:22 2021 No.1957458 >>1954854 >not quite the same as nyanshit going "FLOOD MY HOLE I AM SO HORNY!" I'd love to see the clip where Nyanners says that or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:10:43 2021 No.1957465 >>1957348 >Polka: "I want to collab with project melody and the vshojo girls" >C-clip fag! Oh im sorry, i guess i should rewatch the 2hr+ stream to arrive to the same conclusion

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:11:13 2021 No.1957484 >>1957350 Rejection is different from garnering Antis. A reminder that Chink Antis would literally create tens if thousands of bots just to spam and shit on a vtuber

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:14:20 2021 No.1957581 >>1957212 >If you think it's a lie then link me the stream where she openly she discusses about her hatred for loli >she has to talk about it on stream for her followers to know about it Go join him in retarded land you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:16:39 2021 No.1957640 >>1957484 And why would that happen from her loli-sexualism stance? Do Chinese antis routinely go after anybody who doesn't violate the One-China Policy taboo (which Nyanners actually avoided recently)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:17:22 2021 No.1957662 >>1957581 Bruh, her fans are too retarded to even acknowledge what she's doing even in her livestreams. Unless she spits it out right in front of their faces, they won't know jackshit.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:18:08 2021 No.1957682
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>>1957458
jeez man, it's one of her most popular recent videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmi5yGATW8Y
btw, is this a 'zoomer' thing, hating nyanners? I'm 32, I'm too fucking old to give a shit really. I remember when she was on /a/, but I never cared to join some retarded crusade to defend loli

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:21:51 2021 No.1957814 >>1957662 Interesting claim coming from someone too retarded to make an argument that couldn't be debunked by an 8 year old loli

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:22:21 2021 No.1957825 >>1957640 Chinks literally create bots to spam fake narratives on multiple websites for the people they hate. They could easily label her as a disgusting Baizuo (which is not far from the truth actually).

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:24:52 2021 No.1957905

>>1957662
Well you'd have to be watching her livestreams to not know what people who watch her livestreams know or don't know. Isn't that the crux of the argument above about Gura? Nyanners fans know a lot more than you think they do and that is without Nyanners talking about it. When she does talk about things, even when she doesn't spit it out clearly, they know what she's talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:25:09 2021 No.1957915 >>1957682 >I'm too old to defend fiction from misinformation Nah, it's not a zoomer thing. You're just a retard

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:26:44 2021 No.1957961 [DELETED]

>>1957682
>btw, is this a 'zoomer' thing,
I'm assuming most people that hate her are around your age, since her heel turn is really old news at this point and zoomers probably aren't even aware. I'm 33 and while I don't like her, I just watch people I do like.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:29:39 2021 No.1958067

>>1957682
That clip is literally called "out of context". Now, I don't deny that some of her 'in context" stuff is innuendo and sex jokes, but we're still not talking about whatever the anti faggots think she does. As for your spoiler, most antis are newfags who found out about her from a YouTube video and are trolling for (you)s. Most of these anti faggots weren't around back then and don't know shit other than what they've been told. That's why they keep having to go dig shit up rather than just have it on hand.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:30:10 2021 No.1958081

>>1957905
Most Chinese clippers definitely never knew about her hatred for loli and her being a hypocrite in the past. Most people would only know as far as when she took down the pomf vid, but never when she posted 2D = 3D off-stream. Of course if you mention anything about it either on discord or on stream, you'll immediately get banned.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:33:20 2021 No.1958194

>>1958081
I don't give a flying fist fuck about Chinese clippers. People were talking about her fanbase, which are not they, even if they're a small part of it now. As for the pomf vid, that's kind of a big fucking no duh since people still attack her about it to this fucking day. Why wouldn't it be banned?

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:33:42 2021 No.1958210

>>1957915
well, I think you're a little bit of a retard trying to protect/normalize loli pornography, but the world is changing, it might work out for you, what do I know. I personally grew up hiding it from everyone, and I'm fine rolling with that to my grave. If you feel like you have to fight for everyone to accept you on that front, go ahead, I guess

>>1958067
yeah, everything in that video is pretty much innuendo and sex jokes, in or out of context

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:35:15 2021 No.1958265 >>1958194 The naivety also applies to the non-Chinese fanbase as well. I just used them as a specific example because you'll think I'm pulling shit out of nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:39:46 2021 No.1958396 >>1958210 >this shit mentality Yeah that's why you're a massive betacuck If you were around my age back in middle/highschool, I would've definitely bullied you lol

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:45:09 2021 No.1958508

>>1957682
By the by, it is interesting looking back at these old clips and then watching a more recent one:

https://youtu.be/XIn7Ae3dgvs

She is clearly not doing the same voice anymore for her character. I don't know when she switched but she is very much not as high pitched as she was back then. I'll have to go back and see when she changed that. My guess is somewhere around the time VShojo launched.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 20:46:26 2021 No.1958541 >>1958265 Fair enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 21:05:08 2021 No.1959009 >>1958194 >clippers aren't part of the fanbase Full retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 21:07:31 2021 No.1959063 >>1958210 >most antis are [group I don't like that I can write off instead of arguing against] Cool mentality, bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 21:09:06 2021 No.1959114 >>1958508 Funny since she used to say the higher pitched voice was just her normal voice and not something she was putting on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 22:18:21 2021 No.1961081 >>1959114 Yeah no she didn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 23:01:29 2021 No.1962449 >>1961081 Yes she did, retard. For like six years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 23:08:58 2021 No.1962717 File: 143 KB, 424x301, internet.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A reminder that blue Nyanners reached the original's numbers of almost 10 years in less than 4 years while dealing with alcoholism and crippling depression from her own content.

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