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Cover already apologized to the artists whose artworks were traced by Nene

>> No.19471800

>>19471720
HOLOLIVE IS DYING

>> No.19471806

Sasuga Nenechi

>> No.19471810

Was it for merch? Or just thumbnails and shit?

>> No.19471847

>>19471810
They were all merch that she sold and profited from

>> No.19471895

>>19471720
God fucking damn it

>> No.19471904

>>19471720
>Slap on the wrist
Weakest drama vs strongest idol

>> No.19471908

It was just a nothinburger right guys???….

>> No.19471922

>>19471720
SIXTH TRUMPET EVENT RIGHT HERE FOLKS HOLOLIVE IS OVER

>> No.19471978

>>19471908
Yes

>> No.19471984

>>19471720
What is it with Hololive 2022 and having one yab after another?

>> No.19471990

> We'll improve our content checking system.
Big ups to the Cover intern who apparently is going to look at every image any talent uses for anything and compare it to every existing picture.

>> No.19472002

Nijinipple porn deflection thread

>> No.19472004

>>19471720
Is she retarded or what?

>> No.19472005

>>19471720
is stealing for content not a breech of contract?

>> No.19472023

at least it wasn't traced nipple torture porn

>> No.19472048

>>19471990
>adding workforce into this
>when their managers can do it themselves
improve your tech department first ffs

>> No.19472066

>>19471908
While it's irritating, it means nothing. Chances are nip are you see used another art piece to use as a full reference and only change things to fit the character they were drawing for. Maybe 20 years ago you can get away with it, but there are enough people that have a chip on their shoulder that will sniff out art that looks nearly identical to another piece on the internet.

>> No.19472075

>>19471720
Did Nene trace the art herself? I’m confused.

>> No.19472099

https://youtu.be/Te_S31al0Yw
https://youtu.be/Te_S31al0Yw
https://youtu.be/Te_S31al0Yw
apology

>> No.19472131

>>19472075
I assume so since it says it was produced by her.

>> No.19472137

>>19471908
It would've been a somethingburger if
>nene didn't get permission from namori
>they weren't friends beforehand

>> No.19472146

>>19472075
Yes, what is so confusing about that?

>> No.19472169
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>> No.19472176

>>19472099
>wake up
>see white text black background
>oh god not again
>it's just nene being a dumbass
Fucking hell

>> No.19472186

So she was dumb enough to think: "this artist is my friend, so she wont mind if I use her stuff to sell my merch?"

>> No.19472189

>>19471720
Pirating content is a federal offense in Nippon, tracing art is just considered poor practice.
Nipple torture porn>>>>>>>Tracing art

>> No.19472263

>>19472004
Yes

>> No.19472268

>>19472186
she was actually right since namori didn't get mad at all

>> No.19472276

Don't let this slide, don't be a fucking soft faggot who thinks that because a person is behind a cute 2D avatar they defend her even when she clearly did something wrong saying things like "don't worry, we love you, uwu" fuck that, she deserves to be punished just like Russia did, we need to make sure to never let her forget what she did

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>>19472099
>Claiming she didn't intend for it to look like the original art
She's full of shit.

>> No.19472306

>>19472276
We need to sanction Nene

>> No.19472307

>>19472276
I literally do not give a fuck about tracing

>> No.19472341

>>19472276
It's alright. I'm on my way to Nene house right now to correct her behavior.

>> No.19472373

>>19471847
Hmm mm that's pretty bad tbf

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>>19471720
>Graduation when?
Kek. I just can't understand Jap issue with IP. I mean araki does it. Hope the retard can power through it.

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>>19472341
Don't bother, anonchama.
I have already done the correction.

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>>19472302
And this

>> No.19472521

>>19472302
>>19472474
NENECHI DINDU NUFFIN
SHE'S A GOOD GIRL

>> No.19472522

nipple nipple nipple

>> No.19472530
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>> No.19472538

>>19471908
they already talked about it in private (supposedly). This is just the japanese press conference announcement thing they love to do about any issue/scandal . So yes its a nothingburger

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>>19471720
Gura got rid of traced emojis, they should learn from gura

>> No.19472554

>>19471847
That's a yikes, it's one thing if it's stuff like thumbnails or a cute twitter-only drawing but merch is certainly a bit too far.

>> No.19472570

>>19472186
Nomori (the artist) IS the one that draw her merchs

>> No.19472608

>>19472420
Some of Nene's illustrations really do seem like traces though. In the case of Araki, he copies the shape of the reference, not directly trace the contours of the figure and work from there.

I am rather disappointed at Nene but this shouldn't warrant excessive hate. It seems she and the artist also get along quite well.

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>>19472276
Touch grass not nipples nijinog-kun..

>> No.19472615

>>19472474
>>19472302
what the fuck how did this get through
that's an official merch from a brand
don't they have quality control bro

>> No.19472627

>>19472554
yikes is what i say when i rub my nipples then slap em

>> No.19472665

>>19472627
masturbating to JAV will never be worse than profiting off of rip-offs, I am sorry to say

>> No.19472681

>>19472186
>>19472268
they were buddies irl
she knows nene is retarded and she's fine with it

>> No.19472686
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>>19472627
>DID SOMEONE SAY NIPPLES!???

>> No.19472694

>>19471720
NENE IS Yab free, eh Holokeks?

>> No.19472719
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19472719

>Nene and the artist came to an agreement
Does that include this artist? Because I really doubt it.

>> No.19472731

She apologized because someone pointed it out
She would’ve definitely been silent about all the tracing shits and kept selling her “”””own”””” drawings to her brainless fans
I’m sure this isn’t the last of it. Her true nature is no better than Rushia’s

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>>19471720
Holokeks?
Care to explain?

>> No.19472747

>>19472474
so uh, what are the chances cover gets sued for selling plagarized art?

>> No.19472767

>>19472694
This is not a yab. She apologized, Cover isn't punishing her, and the person who she traced from was content to get the info out.

>> No.19472780

>>19472719
Just how many artists has she traced from?

>> No.19472782

>>19472719
udookie...

>> No.19472784

One of the few actually justified apologies

>> No.19472789
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>>19472186
and in the end she was right

>> No.19472824

>>19472767
>and the person who she traced from was content to get the info out
It was multiple people. Seems like Cover's content to pretend it was just one.

>> No.19472830

>>19472539
Shit vtuber

>> No.19472832

>gets shit in 1 thread
>makes 3 more
So about those nipples, do you guys use caps?

>> No.19472833

nene trast
nene trash
nene trace

>> No.19472835

>>19472276
calm your fucking nipples faggot
*spit in gen5 shizo*

>> No.19472857

>>19472833
polka..

>> No.19472862

>>19471720
neneti why..

>> No.19472920

>>19472615
As another Anon once said, Cover is a LCK build. If they were actually competent they wouldn't be anywhere near as successful.

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>>19472747
0

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>>19472747
Uhhh anon? The artist is literally already getting the money

>> No.19472999

>>19472539
Saved from a yab by Selen rumao

>> No.19473011

>>19472747
The artist she traced is a friend of hers. It won’t happen.

>> No.19473008

>>19472830
Yeah, she prefers shit over pee

>> No.19473009

>>19472767
Profited from other peoples (meaning more than one person) works without their consent?
And she only apologized to, like, one?
Good luck with that.

>> No.19473013

>>19472824
Tom-ay-toe, tom-ah-toe. The only people making a big deal of this still is /vt/ and probably Nene herself. She's already a depressed sadsack so this drama is probably not doing her any favors.

>> No.19473021

>>19472920
They fell ass backwards into finding the person leaking shit to Narukami and others.

>> No.19473025

>>19472985
And the Idolm@ster artist?

>> No.19473038

>>19472615
To be fair you have to be really schizo to notice this stuff, or at least be a close follower of the originals artist work.

>> No.19473045

>>19472719
i think this one can pass off as referencing but the other 2 examples is difficult and up to debate.
good thing, they addressed quickly before it get escalated

>> No.19473048

>>19471720
Ironic that this time it is, in fact, a nothingburger. The understanding with artist is reached (nene's latest birthday art is done by the same artist), Nene got a slap on the wrist, Nene and Cover got some minor rep damage. That's exactly how it should have unfolded unless you're a seething nijifag thinking they'll graduate her over something like that.

>> No.19473052

>>19473009
Did Lauren apologize to the 2(3) women that were destroying his nipples?

>> No.19473055

>>19472186
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, plus all this is just extra free publicity.

>> No.19473057

>>19472999
selen who?

>> No.19473067

>>19473009
Go to their twitters and beg them to sue, I guess. You'd have to be pretty convincing to make it work, though, and we all know /vt/'s track record.

>> No.19473085

why is lauren and his nipple fetish living in your heads rent free

>> No.19473103
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>>19473009
she apologized to all of them retardchama

>> No.19473126

I'm glad everything had been resolved successfully. Hope she doesn't have more of this traced art as people might want to check everything she has made.

>> No.19473127

>>19473085
I'd ask you that considering nijisanji is known worldwide as the nipple torture company now. Dont tell me you missed the national news?

>> No.19473133

>>19471720
Ouch, well the merch part will be an issue but it's not like Nene has anything to do on that part, that's all Cover's fuck up right there.

>> No.19473148

>>19472719
This one isn't a trace but a pose reference, unlike the others. Still bad taste, but line art differs too much.

>> No.19473147

>>19473009
It depends if the manga publisher wants to go after her.
>Kodansha
Don't know. We know WSM has done several collabs with Hololive so it's not like they're on bad terms so it will get settled outside the limelight.

>> No.19473159

>>19473103
What about idol m@ster?

>> No.19473163

>>19473127
i generally don't obsess over what other men spank it to, i guess we're just different like that

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>>19472719

>> No.19473184

>>19473048
I'm more suprised how quickly Cover addressed it.

>> No.19473198

>>19473052
Different situations.
One is piracy, and the other is outright plagiarism.

>> No.19473205

Why is there so much fucking drama ever since Rushia revealed her boy toy? It feels like every day i see retards making yet another claim to top that one in an attempt to get their daily dose of dopamine.

>> No.19473208

>>19473163
Try not to break your nipples alright? It can take years to repair the damage

>> No.19473221

>>19473208
*kisses you on the lips*

>> No.19473225

>>19473085
You'll get used to it, that's just how the holobrony commonly defend themselves they have to deflect to someone or something. Just look at the niji threads barely anyone talks about the nipples yab and it's been out for days now

>> No.19473238

>>19473198
You trying to make piracy seem less severe is adorable, anon.

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19473254

Reminder that real artists HATE tracers (unironically)

>> No.19473259

Just Japs trying to turn a nothingburger into a somethingburger because autism. We'll see how it turns out. I don't see Nene minecrafting her career like Rushia did though.

>> No.19473263

>>19473238
You DON'T pirate porn?

>> No.19473273

>>19471720
nene needs to post suicidal tweet so that we can confirm how she's feeling right now. maybe also go to a certain dramafag and ask him to tell everybody what are her thoughts about her current predicament? what's important is she should NOT stay silent and let this whole thing fades away

>> No.19473279

>>19471720
Anyone have a compilation of all her traces with comparisons like >>19472302
>>19472474
>>19472719

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>>19473159
>"イラストレータのみなさま"
Watch the stream.

>> No.19473294

>>19473254
https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1499291778800701441

>> No.19473310

>>19472719
how retarded do you have to be to cling to this example given all the others. Ah the extremely original pose of mic in left hand, add depth to picture with outstretched hand, I sure haven't seen this 4000 times before

>> No.19473311

>>19473254
Yeah but no one cares about 2view McWhoGivesAShit.

>> No.19473314

>>19473057
Selen Tatsuki of Nijisanji EN is the one who originally called out Gura's emotes as being traced.
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1316194316566458369

>> No.19473323

>>19473294
anon, of course she can't shit on Nene in public

>> No.19473325

The only actual problem is the idolmaster one, but is such a generic idol pose that is like saying every art where the character is doing a neck tilt is a monogatari series/shaft tracing

>> No.19473328

>>19473310
holy cope

>> No.19473331

>>19473238
Nope.
Just saying that the two crimes are incomparable due to their nature.

>> No.19473340

>>19471720
fired when?

>> No.19473348

>>19473085
Obsessing over Nijishit despite "totally not caring about them, baka" has been /vt/'s staple since the first /hlg/ thread on /jp/.

>> No.19473362

>>19471720
What the fuck Nenechi

>> No.19473383

>>19472186
Why didn't she just ask the artist to draw for her then?

>> No.19473406

>>19471720
I thought you guys said Nene was Yab free?

>> No.19473405

>>19473314
oh, sorry. I dont follow roommate stuff.

>> No.19473413

>>19473314
>thank you twitter we did it!
Oh, fucking gross. Is this really Selen?

>> No.19473430
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>>19473273
Why didn't her friends or manager teach her the proper way to act in these situations?

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19473438

No matter what she still Nene!

>> No.19473461
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19473461

>When I draw an illustration, I sometimes think of my favorite author or work, and it is a fact that this content happened.
So she claims that she ended up drawing arts which look so similar to her favorite works because she loved them so much
And she has never admitted she actually traced their works

>> No.19473469

What's wrong with tracing really? Unless you're profiting the work you've done, if you have ever done with your work was to post it on Twitter or pixv, does it really matter?

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CHEERS LUV THE CAVALRY'S HERE

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>>19473085

>> No.19473499

>>19473469
She used the art in merch

>> No.19473501

>>19473461
>taking twitter translated corpo speak word for word
retard-kun....

>> No.19473503

>>19473314
Good looking out on her part

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It's ok Nene, just call it an homage next time so the japs know you're only 99% a fraud

>> No.19473523

>>19473469
>>19471847

>> No.19473531

>>19471720
Nothingburger.
But Iofi would probably silent over this. Unlike when she gone all malding over literal nobody on twitter for "art thief".

>> No.19473538

uohhhh somebody slap my nipples

>> No.19473547

>>19473510
that's not tracing, are you retarded?

>> No.19473563

>>19473547
uwu, can i slap ur chikubis?

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>>19473405
>roommate
?
>>19473413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Hgb2MZ-Q
Have you not seen her bento streams or seen pic related from when her pc started working again or heard her geek out about the Pokemon Resin statues she bought like https://www.favorgk.com/products/sleeping-charmander-pokemon-resin-statue-pl-studios-in-stock?variant=31909985419334 or any of the other girly shit she's said?
She's just a tomboy. Doesn't mean she's not still a girl.

>> No.19473571

>>19473499
>>19473523
Ahhhh.

But if I'm just posting my traced work on Twitter no one will lynch me right?

>> No.19473574

>>19471908
Cover, the artist and Nene have already addressed it so I don't think it will get out of hand like Rushia's situation but the elevens are going to be hounding Nenechi about this for a while.

>> No.19473576

>>19473314
BASED selen

>> No.19473580

>>19473510
Yeah, Anime and Manga artists love paying "homage" to famous fight choreography when they can't come up with it on their own.

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>>19473531
she decided it's time to be a passive aggressive bitch

https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1499291778800701441

>> No.19473611

>>19472169
I miss this one

>> No.19473614

>>19473531
>>19473294

>> No.19473621

>>19473604
KEK

>> No.19473650

>>19473294
You can tell Lofi's fucking pissed but is trying to be constructive about it.

>> No.19473655

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9hCzjBc7Q4

three decades of tracing, but it's ok, just call it an homage

>> No.19473657

>>19473314
I kneel...

>> No.19473664

>>19473469
Because she SOLD it as merch.
Most traced arts in pixiv and twitter are free
Imagine the commission you bought is traced art.
Now imagine you and the original artists' feeling when you both find out.

>> No.19473669

>>19473571
At least mention what the original art was and no one should have a problem

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>>19473604
Side branches were a fucking mistake

>> No.19473684

>>19471720
fucking dramafags flocking to yab like vultures

>> No.19473700

>>19473461
It's actually more common than you think, especially when people are trying to find a artstyle (but this is probably a bad translation)

>> No.19473702

Was Yagoo's dream really an idol company or a psychiatric ward?

>> No.19473717

>>19473314
Selen is a good girl.
It is a shame her image gets used to shitpost.

>> No.19473733

>>19471720
Cover's not even a company anymore.
It's just a criminal organization.
A den of thieves.

>> No.19473736

Nene did nothing wrong

>> No.19473764

They should just close the JP branch. Put everything behind EN where the worst drama is that they don't stream enough and whether they hate each other

>> No.19473766

>>19473604
>not even the top 3 holoartist
>can now act smug with this win

>> No.19473773

>>19473472
Nice.

>> No.19473781

The artist isn't even mad and the artist she referenced literally drew the art for the rubber mat in her birthday package

This is nothing compared to illegally downloaded nipple torture
The japs are actually mad at that because piracy in Japan might as well be smoking weed

>> No.19473786

>>19473655
i don't think you understand what tracing is

>> No.19473801

There is absolutely zero chance the management wasn't aware of this, they're just throwing the talent under the bus to save the management's reputation in true Cover style

>> No.19473824

>>19472999
How did Selen save her? Gura made and apology and the emotes were removed. Selen called out the emote tracer because she made emote commissions and didn’t want anyone to profit off traced work.

>> No.19473827

>>19473786
I do actually and most traditional animation is literally how well you can trace, so yes, some of those """"""homages"""""" are literal trace jobs.

>> No.19473848

>>19473569
>thank you twitter we did it!
that's not girly, it's just cringe

>> No.19473857

>>19473323
Because she already shit on Nene in her Discord DM earlier.

>> No.19473866

>>19473781
Actually the opposite, most people are posting nipples porn stuff for fun
Tracing is actually a big problem

>> No.19473878

>>19473664
Coming from a softdev, I would just say cool and go on with my life. Maybe I'm just too detached from the artist's view.

>>19473669
That makes sense. Though I have a saved pics whom I don't know where it came from. Thanks.

>> No.19473892

>>19473866
>Tracing is actually a big problem
Is it big enough to cancel an event?

>> No.19473894

>>19473866
tracing isnt illegal, it's unethical
piracy is

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>>19473604
DeepL's translation is a bit friendlier.
I'd like to think she is being serious and trying to approach this as a chance for improvement and friendship.
I can tell she's mad as fuck though either way.

>> No.19473913

>>19473866
We’ll see.

>> No.19473926

>>19473848
Girls are cringe

>> No.19473947

>>19473702
Well Nene was an idol before.
But she is diagnosed with depression now.

>> No.19473956

>>19473912
Iofi strikes me as self righteous, I’m sure she’s mad about a lot of things.

>> No.19473964

>>19472276
Not your personal army, faggot.

>> No.19473975

>>19473956
shes not a very nice person

>> No.19473980

LMAOOO HOLOCELS

>> No.19473981

>>19473894
They're both crimes dumbass.
Both are accountable.

>> No.19473993

>>19473866
anon he literally got a collab cancelled...

>> No.19473998

>>19473894
In the west yes
But japan has no fair use laws
You can trace something and color it differently and add your own shit and call it "transformative work" in America

But in japan it could still be a copyright yab.

>> No.19474025

>>19473604
why is she mad? do they beef or somethin?

>> No.19474037

>>19473894
>>19473892
feel free to read the comments under the porn tweet.
Piracy is illegal but whatever.
Tracing is "legal" (may be some copyright issues here) but it's definitely immoral.

>> No.19474047

>>19473184
They saw Nipplesanji trending and wanted to nip it in the bud before it reached that point.

>> No.19474061
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>>19473956
I can see what you mean by that.
Her responses she has made to people taking credit for artwork made by others previously has been fiery. But other times she seems like she is a relatively calm and collected vtuber that likes to think things out.
I've only seen a few clips of her though so perhaps I don't have the full perspective.

>> No.19474067

I told you to never trust idols
I TOLD YOU ALL

>> No.19474075

>>19473998
>You can trace something and color it differently and add your own shit and call it "transformative work" in America
no you can't, wtf do you understand fair use law?

>> No.19474096

>>19474025
To her, tracing is the worst thing a person can do

>> No.19474107

>>19474025
See
>>19473254
Lofi really cares about art and really hates art-theft, including tracing. So it was obvious she was going to be mad about this one.

>> No.19474115

Holobronies... You ogey?

>> No.19474122

>>19474075
fair use "law"

>> No.19474132
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>>19473766
Kek, at least she doesn't trace

>> No.19474142

To think that one anon who ironically made a post on Nene being next would actually come true.
How surreal.

>> No.19474157

>>19473038
that's the thing, namori is a famous CGDCT mangaka who have the same audience as hololive, I bet people who both watch/read yuru yuri and watch hololive is big enough

>> No.19474161
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19474161

>Nijiniggers and ENfags trying to blow things out of proportion again

>> No.19474162

>>19473604
>Relying on google translation to get the tone of the message
This fucking board is hopeless

>> No.19474172

>>19474115
are your nipples okay?

>> No.19474174

>>19474132
Also she's a pedophile that got Pochi roped into Hololive. Lofi's alright to keep around.

>> No.19474177

>>19474047
>to nip it
I see what you did there anon

>> No.19474204
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19474204

>Holoniggers trying to label an obvious yab as a "nothingburger" again
Kek, we all know how that turned out.

>> No.19474210
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19474210

this board sucks

>> No.19474218

>>19474161
>Enfags
Aren't the JOPs the ones calling for her head?

>> No.19474226

>>19474075
Reminder that a media company that "purchases" viral videos to claim copyright once sued =3 (Ray William Johnson) for basically every single one of his videos because he plays the full copyrighted videos on his show and commentated on them.
He won every single video except literally 2. And Only because he "described what was happening in the video and added nothing new"
So if you can re-upload a video and just add a comedic joke and not violate any laws, you can take a pose and trace it with a different character model and color because you changed it enough to not be liable for suit.

>> No.19474257

>>19474067
Thank you Nostradamus.

>> No.19474258

>>19473956
i lost all respect for her when i found out a year later after the translator incident that it apparently was only one guy that was mad at her skills as a translator.

>> No.19474265

>>19474204
>nijinipplers trying to label an obvious yab as a "nippleburger"
what?

>> No.19474275

>>19473956
>>19473975
Ok we get it cumbud, she didn't translate and made your oshi look like a raging bitch on her rags

>> No.19474290

>>19474210
Holy shit that migo art is cute!

>> No.19474304

>>19473184
Can you blame them after what happened when they passively tried to do nothing lately?

>> No.19474324

>>19474304
I'm glad they learned.

>> No.19474330

>>19474275
I completely forgot about that, but ok.

>> No.19474334

>>19474037
>Piracy is illegal
>Tracing is "legal"
Exactly.

>> No.19474338

>>19474290
That dude does a lot of thumbnails for holos, animation of Holos, and even did official art for Kanata.

>> No.19474346

>>19474265
What's with their obsession with nipples I wonder...

>> No.19474373

>>19473254
maybe iofi should use some references to shorten the gap between her fucking eyes on her art

>> No.19474416

>>19472474
The hitboxes on the move seems pretty shit.

>> No.19474454

>>19472474
how many plus/minus frames is this move on nenechi's leg sweep?

>> No.19474477

>>19474226
read about fair use law again.
providing commentary is transformative, tracing isn't.
unless your art is a parody of the original artwork, it won't ever pass

>> No.19474478

>>19474226
and not to mention the artist is literally took it as nothing burger because they worked together for the merch....

>> No.19474513

>>19474477
it's really not hard to label something a parody
"yeah it's a parody"
wow i won the court case

>> No.19474537

>>19474334
Not everyone thinks piracy is bad but any sane person will know that tracing is inherently immoral

>> No.19474581

>>19474513
the judges aren't dumb, for example, you can't say that this >>19472302
is a parody

>> No.19474589

The artist isn't mad and is still keeping her art on her birthday merch and they settled things privately
Rushia breakaways and nipplenonces deserve the rope

>> No.19474608

>>19474537
Tracing isn't inherently immoral, plagiarism is. Tracing can be done morally or with a legitimate purpose, but misrepresenting it is where it becomes wrong.

>> No.19474652

>>19474581
yes you can
Weird Al Yankovic doing the moonwalk while dressed as michael jackson isn't plagiarism
Drawing the same pose with a completely different facial expression and color is enough to warrant parody

>> No.19474696
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19474696

Im about to sue every single mangaka and the author of Jojo for profiting off Donatello

>> No.19474727

this is not a nothingburger!
*rubs nipples and squeals

>> No.19474734
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19474734

>>19472539

>> No.19474755

>>19474477
Tracing is only copying a pose
If you trace, but you draw a completely different character, with different colors, in the traced pose, what percentage of the art is stolen? Not enough for a lawsuit.

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>>19474696
>He doesn't know

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19474768

>>19474696
>Small pener

>> No.19474777

>>19474696
tracing real photos aren't as bad as tracing other people artworks

>> No.19474779

>>19471720
DO NOT TRACE IT MADAM

>> No.19474879

>>19473254
the most impressive part is that she's trilingual, a competent artist, a member of the largest vtubing company on the planet and STILL a fucking 2view. She must have some special kind of boring because holy shit how does she not succeed with that stat line.

nene takes shits more entertaining than iofi and her traced art will sell far more than anything iofi ever makes

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19474881

>>19474777
I disagree.

>> No.19474905

>>19474696
>Donatello
That's a different David by Michelangelo, you little shit. Donatello's David was femboy.

>> No.19474907

>>19474879
because she speaks strictly indo most of the time on her stream to appeal to her autistic audience unlike Moona

>> No.19474917
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>>19474879

>> No.19474931

>>19474881
Well, hands are difficult to draw.

>> No.19474944

>>19474075
a lot of people are very confused and think that transformation is a sufficient condition for fair use.
>>19474122
yes, law. 17 USC 107.

>> No.19474947
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19474947

2 Yabs in 2 weeks. Hololive are you ogey

>> No.19474964

>>19474879
Iofi has debuf of speaking so many langauages instead stiking to one.

>> No.19474978

Isn't this a huge deal in Japanese culture?

>> No.19474995

>>19474881
Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, that just how most artists think.
Some may object tracing real photos but everyone hates tracing other people's artworks

>> No.19475003

>>19474947
no sponsorships or events cancelled due to stealing nipple porn so everything is fine

>> No.19475030

>>19474947
HoloFes is still going on so yeah things are great

>> No.19475057
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>>19473998
not really, nick simmon's comic book was forced our of print after he was accused of tracing from bleach

>> No.19475070

>>19474995
Well artists are hypocritical fucks
This is bad because she's a public figure, but all the doujin niggers selling their books for profit with their blatant tracing? Oh they're grandfathered in, can't upset the otaku

>> No.19475110

>>19472075
What, you think Cover does any work themselves?

>> No.19475135

>>19475070
You have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.19475145

Oh no! She's gonna graduated! This has to be a violation of their contract and worthy of being fired!

This is worse than what Rushia did, but she gets a fucking warning? Who in Hololive hated Rushia and WHY did they hate her?

>> No.19475150

>>19474995
I get that, though it is a bit hypocritical. Photography is an artistic endeavor as well.
And it still results in a death of growth as an artist, often to a greater degree since traced photography is usually done much more closely than traced drawings.

>> No.19475182

>>19472075
Yes and she didn't credit the original artist.

>> No.19475185

>>19475145
no it's not lmao
fuck off breakway

>> No.19475197

>>19475145
It's Aqua.

>> No.19475199

>>19475057
That doesn't even look traced it looks copied.
The fingers are different, differently positioned too
The face is shaped different and at a different angle
And even the eyes are original

>> No.19475219

I'm disappointed that she cheated and lied like this. This is simultaneously a nothingburger and also a huge yab. It's both.

>> No.19475225

>>19473055
Yeah but now Nenechi is going to be branded a tracer forever.

>> No.19475230

if i pose a 3d model with the same pose as someone elses drawing and trace the 3d model will my nipples get hard and need to be punished

>> No.19475234

>>19472276
Not my problem schizo

>> No.19475241
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OH GOD AHH AHHH THIS IS SO BAD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Oh nevermind Namori and Nene are still friends ok

>> No.19475259

>>19475197
Do you ever get bored of having your face cummed on?

>> No.19475263

>>19475145
It was potentially worse than what kicked off the Rushia situation but no way worse than what the rushia situation became with Rushia's retardation making things worse.

>> No.19475295

>>19474944
Rest of the world like nips isn't subject to US law, I don't understand why people keep bringing it up.

>> No.19475307

what a cunt, she tried to pass off traced artwork as her own

>> No.19475335

Hey at least it's not pirated porn

>> No.19475370

>>19475295
read the fucking posts, it was a discussion specifically about american fair use:
>>19473998
>>19474075
>>19474122
yes. fair use law. law.

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>>19472999
A yab and a scam, since Gura presumably paid this nigger for these emotes she was going to display in public, only to get 1:1 copies of other people's work.

>>19473824
Selen (well, her PL) went through the trouble of raising a stink and @ing Gura and Cover more or less the second the fake emotes landed.

Honestly at worst it would have just been a minor incident if nobody noticed and it got called out days later, but I find it a really cute coincidence that it was Selen of all people who noticed it first and made noise. I love Selen.

>> No.19475443

At this point, Nene will face no further consequences from this. I will remind you in a month that I was right.

>> No.19475447

the tracing doesn't even seem that bad? the legs are pretty bad but the other one it's like.. the face shape and eye shape are the same but then the entire torso, hair, inner eyes, all the details like 95% of the picture is different. but the headshape overlaps and the eye shape overlaps.

>> No.19475473
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19475473

kek japs calling out iofi's fakeness

>> No.19475501

>>19475241
That's the only reason Nene's got away with a warning and a formal apology. Solely by the grace of the artist. This isn't a big deal but it could very easily have been disastrous.

>> No.19475509

>>19475473
>jap

>> No.19475511

>>19475447
japs have autism, the entire picture is different except the pose, but that's enough for retards to call it tracing when it is just heavy referencing

>> No.19475555

>>19475473
hello @cybercabohero

>> No.19475565

>>19475501
its really not that big of a deal

>> No.19475580

>>19475145
Nene
>we're friends ok
>sure
Rushia
>we're friends ok
>gets yeeted

>> No.19475582

>>19475511
check your eyes
>>19472302

>> No.19475593

>ctrl + g "niji"
>10 results
why exactly? Both of these "yabs" are nothingburger, no way either of them would graduate over these, no need in deflecting. The QRTs are dominated by anti-vtubers anyway, dont go tribal over dumb shit.

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>>19475473
>I'm always ready to talk to you about drawing.
I'll be waiting.
Good luck!

Does this come across differently in JP? Because the DeepL translation makes it sound downright snide in context.

>> No.19475601

How would they even know it was trace in the first place? Unless Cover did some CSI shit I don't see how they would have found out.

>> No.19475604

>>19475511

I mean she might have traced the circle and two ovals but I sure as fuck wouldn't be able to draw the rest of nene's picture from that amount of tracing lmao

>> No.19475608

All these replies and no one explained what tracing is

>> No.19475612

>>19475565
Imagine exactly the same situation but the artist was like that BL nigger from the marine & miko thing.

>> No.19475629

>>19475473
>check that dudes likes
>nijishit and Rushia drama
....

>> No.19475630

>>19475582
yeah, that's not tracing numskull everything in nene's picture is different except the pose, check your fucking eyes

>> No.19475636

>>19475608
it's an english word do your language reps.

>> No.19475649
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19475649

It's literally impossible to be angry at this idiot no matter how she fucks up

>> No.19475665

>>19474608
Tracing for a profit is also a one-way ticked to getting bonked

>> No.19475684

>>19475649
I'm not angry I'm just disappointed

>> No.19475685

>>19475594

when your whole schtick is hating anyone that's anywhere close to "bad thing in art world" then yes anything she says here that isn't being really rude and mean is going to seem fake as hell. she's probably trying to leech some art collab even though she's fuming on the inside about all this but she had to swallow her little pride left to try and leech instead.

>> No.19475706

lot of retards who dont know reference drawing from tracing
it's really not even worth explaining but the average dramanigger will just end up saying they're the same anyways

>> No.19475807

>>19475601
Could be some fan of the original artist realized it looks familiar and overlayed them, then they emailed Cover. With so many people seeing it someone somewhere would've gone "wait a minute.."
I don't know what they mean by their future plan to prevent it, that would have to be CSI shit

>> No.19475834

>>19475706
If it overlays it's tracing

>> No.19475863

>>19475706
She is very clearly tracing anon

>> No.19475869

>>19475706
How is it any different from this?
https://youtu.be/4taTeMnOGwE
And that guy wasn't even tracing
Meanwhile Nene was clearly tracing

>> No.19475915

>>19475807
it'll probably be like.
>Nene did you trace it
no
>ogey, put it up for merch

you really think cover going to go the extra mile for an adult? It's the adult's own reputation who is taking the risk. Cover will just say it fell through the "fact check" cracks

>> No.19475931

Ill give a shit when Japs stop giving chinese gacha their checking and savings accounts that are filled to the brim with traced art and backgrounds stolen from Pixiv and they never hold them accountable

>> No.19475964

>>19474218
Now that the statement is out, every JOP I've seen basically just said "thanks for acknowledging it." I'm sure there are a few in other hashtags flipping out about it but they're effectively the same as /vt/ self-contained asshats.

>> No.19475967

>>19475931
Their savings accounts are filled with traced art? The Japanese pension banking system uses NFTs now?

>> No.19475972

>>19475565
If Nene wasn't friends with the artist it very easily could have be a big deal, that friendship is the only reason this is a nothingburger

>> No.19475994

>>19475967
you sure showed that ESL's misplaced modifier

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>>19475972
Namori probably gave her the poses to begin with

>> No.19476029

>>19476016
She could have said so

>> No.19476039

>>19475994
I wanted the NFT joke more than I respected our friend's bilingual education

>> No.19476045

Now this is a nothingburger if I've seen one, especially since it's Namori, the artist is a cool person, this entire thing is already settled behind the scene before this announcement
t. nijifag

>> No.19476079
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>>19474881

>> No.19476147

This shit is so common it is the majority of the industry.
It still irks me when people profit from traces. Exact matches at that. Nene doesn't NEED to do that, she is a knowingly good artist, it just seems lazy.
At least change angles, scales and shit, fuck girl, use that brain more. Pixelate the reference image so you aren't exact, that makes it easier to use a rough pose you like but still make it your own.
I'm just bewildered if anything.

>> No.19476183

>>19476045
The de facto policy cannot be
>Plagiarism is allowed as long as you think the copyright owner likes you enough to not want to stand up for themselves against you

>> No.19476218

>>19475404
Selenfag the tracer begged Gura multiple times to use the emotes free of charge. I don’t see any positive other than Selen being an obnoxious twitter artist, she’s not a chumbud like everyone claimed she only made the Gura gifs because she was commissioned.

>> No.19476301
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>>19473604
Si anjing.
Risu, i know you know that you're here.
Please tell iofi that her drawings suck ass and she should just give up on it.
If she keep acting like an artist, i'll find her and rape her.

>> No.19476316

>>19476301
tough but fair

>> No.19476444

>>19476183
I mean it literally is. Why are you trying to protect the 'copyright owner' who obviously doesnt want this to escalate?
It would be a different situation if Namori isnt already liking the apology and going on as usual

>> No.19476493

>>19476045
They also need to apologize to Lawson, the imas artist, fans who bought the goods

>> No.19476546

>>19475580
cope fancuck

>> No.19476585

>>19472276
Kys schizo

>> No.19476711

>>19473184
Because this happened during working hours, not weekend in middle of night.

>> No.19476792

https://imgur.com/n14fA2f.jpg
https://imgur.com/sijGcCr.jpg
https://imgur.com/BKsRF9J.jpg
https://imgur.com/pwx2NMD.jpg
https://imgur.com/dKObrJC.jpg
https://imgur.com/GFz1uDJ.jpg
https://imgur.com/agG2Mto.jpg
https://imgur.com/Y49tPyf.gif
https://imgur.com/PNnb45L.jpg
https://imgur.com/tjtwGpK.jpg

OH NONONO

>> No.19476793

>>19473547
>tHat'S NoT tRaCing, r u REtaraded?

>> No.19476852

did she really thought that she could get away with tracing from a famous artist?
what the fuck is wrong with her brain?

>> No.19476883

>>19476792
There's going to be more than just these once they start digging deeper into the past work.

>> No.19476890

>>19476493
The product was good. Why the need to apologize?

>> No.19476915

>>19476183
That's not plagiarism. Try again.

>> No.19476932

>>19471847
oof

>> No.19476957

>>19476852
That's not a problem if the original author consented and obviously they did. I bet the orignal artist got paid handsomely for this.

>> No.19476975

>>19472539
Is Gura yab-proof?
>Taiwan yab (Killed Coco)
>Trace yab (Killed Nene)
>Discord yab (Killed Rushia)

>> No.19476979

>>19471847
That's good It's a win win deal since their artwork got recognized by Nene. I too would be honored if my works got recognized by a Holo.

>> No.19476986

>>19476852
But that's the thing, she is getting away with it.

>> No.19476999

>>19471904
Nene is just too pure for this cruel world.

>> No.19477010

>>19476957
that's still fucking dumb and pathetic
she should had comissioned art from her isntead of pretending that she can draw

>> No.19477027

>>19471908
Not actually a crime like a piracy is. It's not even tracing since the lines don't march at all.

>> No.19477043

>>19476975
>Taiwan yab
her fanbase is already too big to be majorly affected, it would be annoying. And the Taiwan thing wasnt why Coco left, how many does this need to be stated
>Trace yab
nothingburger
>Discord yab
she's a western vtuber, her having a boyfriend is an open secret, and her fanbase is also normie anyway, they would defend her.

>> No.19477054

>>19472005
This is not a pirated content. Doing homage art is not even an immoral act.

>> No.19477060

artist 'tism with tracing is just really funny

>> No.19477089

>>19473894
>piracy is
Only in Muttcuck and west Eurocuck lands.
The only good thing bout living in a shithole is that politicians don't give a shit about petty stuff compared to crime n shit

>> No.19477095

>>19477010
Why are you mad? Artists reference other people's work all the time especially if they are friends. Nene has lots of artist friends that's why she's soo good at it.

>> No.19477146

>>19475649
I love Nene so much. Why is she so pure?

>> No.19477279

>>19477027
Find me No Game No Life season 2

>> No.19477312
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>>19476979
The artist's work is already made into multiple anime seasons, anon... It's not just a nobody.

>>19477027
Are you blind or what?

>> No.19477324

>>19471720
Disgusting. Hololive and all it's members are truly disgusting.

>> No.19477350

>>19477312
do not reply to obvious bait

>> No.19477358

>>19477312
The lines don't even match you retarded dramanigger, learn the difference between tracing and referencing.

>> No.19477388

>>19477054
>Homage art
>commercial products for sale without permission
Kek

>> No.19477401

>>19477358
Looks like we've got a clown here.

>> No.19477421

>>19477401
The only clowns here are people who never drawn anything in their life becoming art experts all of a sudden.

>> No.19477469

>>19477421
Post art

>> No.19477504

>>19477469
You first, I'm not the one accusing the artist of plagiarism.
How about you prove you're competent enough to judge.

>> No.19477523

>>19473766
Who are the #2 and #3 holoartists

>> No.19477548

>>19477421
I am in a circle and anything >70% from reference is tracing, anon.

That is 80-90% similar, 70% if generous.

>> No.19477550
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19477550

>different colors
>different expressions
>poses vary
>half the lines don't match

It's similar enough to apologize, but not enough to halt sales.
Dramaniggers should be shot.

>> No.19477577
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19477577

>>19472474
>>19472302

>> No.19477682

>>19477548
Where do you even get those numbers.
If you could measure it that precisely, there would be a reliable check tool similar to text plagiarism.
Yet it's always just speculation.

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