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>> No.198993

>>198906
Sara's video today speaking english was the fcking cutest thing ever.I love this bitch so much

>> No.199069

>>198993
Agreed. I like her accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncZcNlyovYg

>> No.199175
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199175

Only niji I like is Chigusa

>> No.199205

>>198906
>NijiEN

>> No.199387

>>198906
Is NijiEN launching soon? If so, where did the news come from?

>> No.199447
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>>199205
I wonder if they'll easily be able to collaborate outside of the company. Risu from HoloID collaborated with NijiID recently. Obviously this all relies on a mutual interest and friendliness, but I'd like to see more unity on the western front

>> No.199469

>>199069
Damn, this is really cute. Her english is one of the best I saw from jp vtubers.

>> No.199748

>>199175
She's a cutie

>> No.199784 [DELETED] 

>>199205
>NijiDESIGNATED

>> No.199800

>>199447
Cover and Nijisanji have done plenty of JP collabs in the past, it wouldn't be impossible to see an EN collab happening.

>> No.199906

>>199800
Considering how small the current pool of corporate EN vtubers is right now, I wouldn't be surprised. They're both western branches for a predominantly Japanese company.

>> No.200297

>>199906
Aye, would avoid tainting themselves with the sketchier en vtubers and also provide better practice for Amelia to not be too autistic when dealing with the rest of hololive outside of en.

>> No.200422

>>199069
There is a slight english accent in there, don't know what dialect though.

>> No.200500

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UM2LKhfp-c

>> No.202180

>>200422
Sounds like a typical upper-middle class southern dialect. Very cute

>> No.202440
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202440

Best girls

>> No.204687
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Anyone know who the artist of Noor is? their profiles doesn't really say anything.

>> No.205166

>>204687
The face looks similar to Dola's, try searching for hers

>> No.205316

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnWV74bdjws
Is it me or are her arms kinda short?

>> No.205571
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205571

So, any expectations for how nijien is going to shape up?

>> No.206272

>>205571
How much do Nijisanji pander to reddit?

>> No.206869

>>205571
Depends on the marketing. Most casual viewers don't know shit about Nijisanji.

>> No.207049

>>206272
They took over the subreddit last month and got a bunch of their members to register accounts. They had 17 JPs day 1 and added 6 IDs 5 days ago.
Mostly irrelevant though, since they only have 20k members on the subreddit compared to almost 300k for Hololive.

>> No.207462

>>207049
You say that now but half a year ago the hololive one was about the same size, so a lot could change depending on how things proceed I guess.

>> No.207762

whats wrong with Mirei, why did she hide L\DL?

>> No.207859

>>207762
because she is consistently targeted by antis for harrasment

>> No.208055

>>205571
>we are now reddit

>> No.208256

Sara must be really fucking cute in person. Mirei was about to rape her when they had that off collab together.

>> No.208400

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRnk-IvOi38&t=2s

>> No.208455

>>208400
Hana is so cute

>> No.208617

>>206272
Other than Ako, none of them have really taken to Reddit.

>> No.208706

>>205316
Fuck i didnt notice. Now I can't unsee it

>> No.208810

Honestly, I doubt NijiEN will get even close to the amount of attention HoloEN did, since even HoloEN’s views have kind of declined recently. Combined with how almost none of the JPs have EOP appeal, and the EN branch is gonna be pretty lonely.

>> No.208940

>>207462
No it wasn't, the hololive sub had almost 150k subs when gen 5 debuted and saw 6 times as much activity. The sub was already big before en came in and changed the game.

>> No.209004

>>208940
I just went and looked, July last year the hololive sub was on 26k subs. So yeah around half a year ago it was about the same size.

>> No.209172

Hoshikawa and Haachama English collab when? Hoshikawa is half Brit (father) and Haachama is a quarter Brit (grandma) so I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

>> No.209367

https://youtu.be/cnWV74bdjws

what the fuck

>> No.209423

>>205571
Small, but I think thats expected since Niji probably isnt as established in the west. They can still grow though.

>> No.209428

>>209172
Anon, Hoshikawa and Haato are among the closest Nijisanji/Hololive pair. They both called each other for their birthdays. Here is a collab with those two https://youtu.be/-ozXKzbj8oU

>> No.209541

>>209367
She must actually be crazy, it's been two hours now

>> No.209769

>>209367
Probably missed the invitation to the relay and decided to participate in her own way. The cat's inner machinations are an enigma.

>> No.210234

>>209367
God I want to drop this cat off at a public park while she's sleeping.

>> No.211221

>>205571
all EN vtubers tend to absolutely suck, so that is what I'm expecting. Claire and fat himawari are the only good nijjers to begin with

>> No.211516
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>We really want the Holo audience right now.

>> No.211628

>>211516
Who are you quoting?

>> No.211660

>>211628
We are not on /jp/, that shit don't work no more

>> No.211777

>>211516
It's dumb but fun, and I'm certainly OK with if it gets more people interested in my favorite gay tomboy otter.

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haha it's l*l*

>> No.212130

>>209367
IS SHE STILL FUCKING GOING

>> No.212192

>>209367
you're witnessing a woman go insane live

>> No.212301

>>212192
That's just a typical noraneko stream.

>> No.212380

>>198906
>Global
What the fuck?

>> No.212463

>>208455
She is great when she isn't talking about poop

>> No.212472

>>212301
>>212192
Are we gonna see her dislocate her jaw again? Where will she wake up this time? Will they finally lock her up for her own good?

>> No.212504

>>212472
She went to the hospital to check on her jaw so it's probably fixed.

>> No.212545

>>212504
I'm actually pretty glad to hear that. I can't imagine how she felt.

>> No.212952

>>212504
I wonder how that's different from just normally dislocating muscles when you stretch them too much, which is super common and not a big deal.

>> No.212996 [DELETED] 

Any Nijigirls who don't collab with men for the last 3 months? I don't want to watch whores.

>> No.213140

>>212952
What's dislocating a muscle? Do you mean straining or tearing?
You can only dislocate joints.

>> No.213505

>>213140
I'm not sure. It feels like a muscle by your jaw under your chin is pushed to the side from its normal spot and it's slightly scary, but you can just push it back into place. I assume what happened to her is different, though I dunno how it could happen from singing

>> No.213835

>>213505
Nah, it's not that.
It's the bone of the joint near the ear that gets dislocated, or maybe fractured, and sometimes when you open your mouth it locks in place. I know because I've had it myself since getting kicked in the jaw in middle school, but it got better with time.

>> No.213885

>>213140
Often times when you go to get wisdom teeth removed, the orthodontist is a total hack and will overextend your jaw when prepping the surgery, causing damage.
I know people whose jaw clicks when they eat food because of such a scenario. Others have naturally bad jaw alignment (or whatever the fuck.) For me, sometimes I strain my jaw when I yawn, from overextension, perhaps.
Either way, I hope she doesn't have that happen again.

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Mama Nara finally admitting the truth.

>> No.216598

>>209367
6 hours and she's still going lol

>> No.216915
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216915

L#l* LOVE!

>> No.217131

>>216915
Why is she banned?

>> No.217188

Hayama Marin is very comfy bros

>> No.217196

>>216915
Booba

>> No.217262

>>205571
DOA like HoloEN reclining right now.

>> No.217411

>>209172
She's the only holo who she's friends with on steam so they probably might know each other already.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198838667033/friends/

>> No.217507
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SHE MADE ANOTHER STREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2yoy_wTr8

>> No.217648

Chi-chan...

>> No.218555
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>>202440
>no Siu GF
why live

>> No.219126

>>217507
What is happening

>> No.219465

>>217507
She's going to die anytime soon.

>> No.219467

Do not open.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69TI5oO_z6E

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>>217188

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You guys are missing this crazy fangirl.

>> No.226163

>>217131
/jp/niji have gatekept themselves so hard they hate english speakers in general

>> No.226426

>>226163
lulu doesn't speak english

>> No.227463

Is it just me or are there not much nijisanji viewers on 4chan?

>> No.227491

>>227463
I've wondered if they're more popular proportionally elsewhere but reddit seems to deconfirm this. I know there's foreign fan discords and stuff though

>> No.227500

I am not sure whether I should be happy or sad that Tamaki manages to salvage Nijinyanji disaster. Tamaki definitely will get scolded for stealing the attention from the relay. But then again the relay itself is a clusterfuck.

>>227463
more like not much nijisanji viewers on the non-japanese speaking world

>> No.230900

>>227463
>>227491
>>227500
Yeah but I'm not sure why, since there's a bunch of translated clips of the Nijis as well, in fact I got into vtubers by being recommended one of them. Maybe because they don't acknowledge EOPs often? Idk.

>> No.233938

>>230900
It could be that, but I also think its because there's too many vtubers on Youtube right now that people usually just stick to what they know. That or its because fansubbers just want a specific clippable moment or something.

>> No.234071

>>226426
EoPs like her, thus banished.

>> No.234204

Claire...

>> No.234235

>>230900
sadly niji didn't have the impact holo had on western viewers
they need some whacky meme stuff that would draw everyone's attention

miko got dibs on the GTA nigga moment

>> No.234248

>>199069
haachama btfo

>> No.234266

>>230900
Western audience seem to be more into the idol-culture aspect of japanese vtubers.

>> No.234328

>>234235
>they need some whacky meme stuff that would draw everyone's attention

They really don't.

>> No.234385

>>234204
I like slutty nuns

>> No.234414

>>234328
agreed.
but I don't know any alternative that would give them a boost. I vaguely remember tsukino mito even openly said that having western viewers would boost one's channel

>> No.234434

>>234235

I would rather they stick to quality contents that requires more than 10 sec attention span.

>> No.234520

>>234266
I thought Western hate idol culture?

>> No.234521

>>234385
Her eigo is really bad she got fucking filtered by Little Mermaid

>> No.234578

>>234235
there's plenty of it out there. The thing is that many holofags only want hololive, while nijifags existent in the west are from a complete different fanbase in a large part.

>> No.234600

>>234328
Suisei got decent amount Western viewers even pre Covid, and all she did is sing and play Tetris. The only pandering she does is playing GTA and English utawaku

>> No.234649

>>234385
Nuns are only good as breeding sows

>> No.234722

>>234520
Normal people do.
But when it comes to weeaboo, it looks as bad as the worst kind of Japanese otaku.

>> No.234734

>>234520
Normalfaggots do, not the kind of person who would sit down and watch a japanese language stream of a japanese woman pretending to be an anime girl. VTubers are a refuge from western whores in the west whereas they are just treated like regular streamers in Japan. So yeah, constantly collabing with males, talking about being a lesbian and how many people you've fucked etc. is not gonna fly in the west.

>> No.234765

>>234578
Yeah, there's not much space for agencies in the west. Nijisanji having the fanbase it has is already impressive considering how re:act, 774 and other agencies barely have anything in the west.

>> No.234805

All they need to do is just engage overseas viewers if they're there. Keeps them coming back. Also knowing the timezones help.

>> No.234976

>>234765
Tomari Mari does have Western viewers, they just usually hides in the chat. I know becuz when I typed GG or something in Romanji once they came out. Pretty sure Kuku have some too, but their amount is just small.

>> No.235150

>>234976
I mean, so do Nijisanji and many other jp vtuber. I'm more talking about community, which you can find nijisanji fans in reddit, twitter and many places, alongside big discords but for other agencies it's unfortunately much much smaller, which is why hololive is only ever compared to nijisanji.

>> No.235200

>>226163
>/jp/niji have gatekept themselves so hard
This. If there was a reason that made me overlook nijis its this one. Also since nijis operate in cliques, unless you like all of your oshis group you just tend to focus on them alone.

>> No.235210

>>235150
Holo subreddit dont even have 100k members before meme review. Meme review literally attracted attention whores.

>> No.235481

being a nijifag is pain, the subreddit and threads are relatively dead compared to holo counterparts, VTuber-watching friends are mostly holo only

>> No.235752

Noraneko's hijacking of the Nyancat relay made it so much better. Not to mention she did it for 13 hours straight.

>> No.235764
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>>234414
I mean I dont think they've hit a ceiling in Japan yet, they should probably keep up their current trend of things like Nyanyan rally mixed in with someone like Tamaki to really attract some eyes with a crazy stunt.

>>234805
Timezones can help I guess since people like Lulu stream at western friendly times, I just wonder if some are just nervous to approach due to language/cultural barrier? I mean it doesn't apply to all of them since there's clips of some Nijis thanking their overseas viewers and Hoshikawa did her EN introduction recently, I'm just shooting ideas.

>> No.235790

>>226163
you're saying that like it's a bad thing

>> No.235826

inb4 Hoshikawa is NijiEN wave 0

>> No.235847

>>235826
Niji IN will be rebranded as wave 0 if EN is even remotely successful.

>> No.235852

>>200422
Doesn't seem that different from mangled RP to me.

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>>209004
I thought you were bullshitting but you're actually right. Damn, I thought they hit 20k in may. My memory really sucks.

>> No.235982

>>235481

Being "anything-only" is pretty damn stupid because the VTuber world has so much crossovers. They're just confining themselves to a small bubble.

To be fair, being Niji-only is just as bad. If someone is, say, a Kuzuha fan but haven't been following LVG's Ichinose or Animare's Ran then they missed out on a great Kuzuha moment that's been blowing up recently, or at least lack the proper context to fully appreciate it.

>> No.236094

>>211628
His interpretation of Nijisanji's intentions behind all of this pandering.

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>>206272
Too much.

>> No.236193

>>234734
Are you projecting? Because that isn't what I've seen from foreign vtuber fans. Not generally at least.

>> No.236326

>>230900
This. If you had told me a year ago that Hololive would end up becoming more popular in the West than Nijisanji, I would never have believed it. I thought the whole idol thing wouldn't appeal to them as much.

>>234266
Maybe. Though I wonder if it's also because of Hololive purposely trying to appeal to English speakers. If my info is correct, appealing to international fans in general has been part of their strategy for a while. Don't quote me on it though.

>> No.236351

>>235847
I'd see this happening unironically.

>> No.236430

>>234734
But then you get someone like Hoshikawa.

>> No.236505

>>236193
Actually yes, that was just my own jaded cynicism bubbling up to the surface.

>> No.239241

>>235982
yeah, completely agree with being the anything-only, I watch pretty much any livers who play apex

>> No.239459

>>236326
I think for a lot of people the idol thing doesn't specifically appeal to them. If you look in other western communities outisde of 4chan at least you will see a whole range of attitudes, people that tolerate it and make excuses for it when the unpleasant side of it rears its head, people that treat it as a giant meme and others that outright ask for more male female collabs in hololive especially with the holostars and get a decent amount of support in that.

>> No.239733

>>234805
I really think that is a big part of it, if you really want to keep EOPs watching your Japanese language streams you are going to have to throw them a bone every now and then to keep their interest and try respond to a comment or something. I don't think it even needs to be much, Chima seems to get quite a lot of foreign listeners even, it being singing mostly probably does help, but she also makes the small effort to say thanks for listening in English as well as Japanese between songs.

>> No.239989

Here's my rrat.

Nijisanji just finished up with their EN auditions and will be debuting in 3 months time.
They mostly picked out female talent, all of which who have some VTubing experience.
You'll most likely recognize a few voices if you keep up with western VTubers, and they're planning to absorb all the popular western VTubers eventually.

>> No.240916

So what's the purpose behind the nyan nyan event

>> No.240936

>>240916
To remind people that some of them still exist.

>> No.241105

>>240916
It's quite literally a second introduction video, hence the bio info.

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This is top vtuber design
hololive take note

>> No.241262

>>198906
She's a riajuu.

>> No.241322

Lulu is the only entrylevel in nijisanji?

>> No.241335

>>241322
Does Hana count?

>> No.241389

>>241105
Odd choice for a meme but I can dig it.

>> No.241420

>>241322
Hana Macchia

>> No.241475

>>235982
Completely agree. I would be a really sad person if I only watched hololive. Expanding to other agencies only did good for me as a vtuber fan.

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I really want to be her daddy and make her a mommy.

>> No.241912

>>241600
Basically she's baby.

>> No.242222

>>239989
How do you know that? How many members they selected? And how many are male?

>> No.242239

>>241600
Sara Hoshikawa is so fucking hot. I wish I could fuck this bitch for days.

>> No.242682

kek

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Is there a Niji member you would recommend to a Holo watcher? Oshi is in pic related.

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>> No.243125

>>242706

Good singers: Inui Toko, Melissa, Chima
Psychopath: Kanae

>> No.243138

>>242706
Just start with Toko if you're a hoshiyomi. Transition through their shared streams.

>> No.243160

>>243125
>>243138
Ogey!

>> No.243394

>>242706
your oshi is Suisei? I know she likes Toya so maybe check him out. though she said that like 2 years ago I don't know if she still does.

>> No.243541

>over.100 members
>Most of them are unmemorable

Does Nijisanji mean"quantity over quality"?

please recommend me some good ones

>> No.243553

>>243541
Lulu is the only good one. You know this.

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>>243541
Tsukino Mito raped a man in the summer of 1998.

>> No.243760

>>243541
I like Sister Claire.
and I may be the only one in these threads.

>> No.243800

>>243541
yashikizu

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>>243541
Yes, we're fans of mediocrity. Look up Furen, she's not funny in the least and her laugh is absolutely not the heartiest and most endearing sound you'll hear all month. She's not worth any attention at all.

https://youtu.be/laHv1bd9E-0

>> No.244177

>>243541
Warabeda Meiji is a good singer and can pull off being cute without trying too hard

>> No.244196

>>243541
hoshikawa sara, sasaki saku, kanae, honma himawari, sukoya kana, tome, akina..

>> No.244227

>>243541
They go with the shotgun approach, if they throw enough characters out there they're probably going to have at least one for everyone

>> No.244335

Just because you're ignorant about them doesn't mean they're unmemorable.

>> No.244375

>>243879
She cute

>> No.244526

>>243394
Noted!

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>> No.244598

>>244545
Why isn't Rena more popular?
Also RIP Moruru, gone from this world too soon.

>> No.244646

>>244598
Rena is fairly popular as far as female niji livers go. Obviously she's below mito/lulu/ars/sakuyui/sanbaka tier but she has very consistent streams and an enjoyable personality.

>> No.244688

It's so weird to see people calling Yorumi by her first name.

>> No.244880

>>241600
Festival pls

>> No.245042

>>244177
Sadly she's retiring soon though. Don't get too attached to her brah.

>> No.245330

>>245042
That’s fine, she’s retiring to marry me

>> No.245409

kuzuha league stream when?

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These two need to collab more

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>>244598

>> No.245625

Whats the point of this thread when niji discord exist?

>> No.245686

>>245592
Genzuki goes well with everyone.

>> No.245704

>>245611
God I wish that were me

>> No.245761

>>244598
She's a little gaudy if you ask me, but her personality's fun and she's a blast in collabs.
https://youtu.be/pYBX0vfKQiU

>> No.245835

>>222095
Top comfy, I wish I was a bumpkin nip

>> No.245956

>>245625
Are you asking what the benefits of being anonymous is?

>> No.245973

>>245956
Do not reply to bait anonchama

>> No.246044

>>245973
I assumed he came from the discord server which is a lot more active than here.

>> No.246108

>>244688
People in the old thread already called her that when she debuts

>> No.246127

>>235982
On this site at least there is a lot of animosity towards nijisanji due to the /jp/ thread and the fact that japanese nijisanji fans hurt hololive in a lot of ways (whether or not you believe that is true doesn't matter, that's the prevailing opinion on this site). Outside of here, they were both unlucky but also dropped the ball themselves. Hololive blew the fuck up in the west due to various reasons and that's where the vast majority of fansubbing and discussion is in the west. It also doesn't help that they ignored the English-speaking market and/or only half-heartedly threw them some bones. Now that holoEN has proven that there is a large market, they are scrambling to get a piece of that pie with their own real EN branch, a subreddit, employing translators and buying ads on youtube. Sadly, I believe the train has already left the station. Momentum is hugely important and Nijisanji has barely any in the west. Their EN branch might become mildly successful, but I doubt it will live up to the expectations of the suits at ichikara.

>> No.246140

>>198906
I love this gigastacy, would simp IRL if I was a rich ojisan.

>> No.246157

It's only matter of time before one of our girls get exposed live stream like this:

https://youtu.be/mweBjlDWKTo?t=269

>> No.246919 [DELETED] 

>>240916
We want the holoEN audience and we want them now

>> No.247008 [DELETED] 

>>235790
It pretty much is, man, because if you gatekeep so hard that you forget to leave a way in for newcomers eventually they'll develop a new culture distinct from your own which will eventually eclipse the original culture if only by virtue of it being more newcome friendly. That's precisely the reason why over in the iconic moments thread people don't even know who mito is.

>> No.247030

>>246127
What are the odds that they stop supporting the talents that don't do as well for EN?

>>247008
Or they see Mito as that one girl that does weird shit and nothing else.

>> No.247143

>>247030
Seeing how Sakuya and some other Niji talents start collabing with ID and IN Nijis it's safe to say they at least acknowledging them now. AFAIK Hana is also included in the NyanNyan relay.

>> No.247178

>>247143
Global collabs have been a thing for a long time, last year's Nijisanji day was an international minecraft collab. Sukoya and Hana/Taka/Zea have collabed several times over the years.

>> No.247283

>>247178
Yeah I have never really seen it as there being anything preventing it or people being intentionally ignored. Most of the foreign branch members that do the collabs seem to be the ones with decent Japanese skills. So I have always thought its probably more like how are we supposed to collab if we can't even manage to communicate rather than some kind of evil "lets not give them any collabs because it isn't worth our time".

>> No.248127

>>247008
Think it happens either way really, even if you look at the Hololive threads and their complete lack of gatekeeping, those have changed massively culturally. Looking at early threads I can see someone bring up that Ayame narrative and the majority of responses are telling him to fuck off, they don't care, it isn't an anti thread, don't apply idolfag mindset to vtubers and so on. Now they argue over which member is the biggest whore on regular basis.

>> No.248647

>>247008
As far as I see it, thanks to gatekeeping newfags stay away from Nijisanji because it's not newcomer friendly at all. Your example shows that gatekeeping works.

>> No.248670 [DELETED] 

>>248647
The thing about that style of gatekeeping is that the moment an influx of newfags come in it falls apart in an instant.

>> No.248714

>>248670
Same goes for any type of gatekeeping, no?

>> No.248769

>>248670
Why would newfags suddenly appear in a newfag unfriendly environment? Hololive threads are a cesspool because they don't gatekeep and Nijisanji threads are good because they did. If gatekeeping doesn't help, nothing will.

>> No.248772

>>248714
Yep, which is why it is ultimately pointless. In the end you're consuming a corporate product and corporations will always try for wider appeal. I don't know what sort of mental gymnastics the /jp/ thread pulls, but trying to reconcile their autism while consuming a product of a corporation that is DESPERATELY trying to gain access to the western market is something to behold.

>> No.248816 [DELETED] 

>>248769
you're new to this place aren't you? No matter how unfriendly you make a place to newcomers, they'll still show up anyways. and if you do not have a plan to intergrate them they'll overwhelm you instead.

>> No.248883

>>248816
It doesn't really matter now. This thread will thrive as no one's going to bother gatekeeping here, newfags are free to shape it into whatever they want it to be.

>> No.248905 [DELETED] 

https://hololive.jetri.co/#/ameliawatchon?videoId=NrSphoyXkMQ,6kFPpKbashM,i6ahRn3-L8U,blqykZwvInY,RCrBR4pCGoM,AhQNdBXmSoE,mHAfX_Nhtp4,bFWAaw4rBy0,iwEZCUdvjwE,w62WoUYT1Aw&layout=amongus1

>> No.248908

>>248816
Yeah, because boards that integrate newfags have such a high quality, right?

>> No.249058

>>248772
The misunderstanding here you have is the point of the behaviour. It's about the thread not the product. Telling newfags to lurk more before posting and refusing to spoonfeed people used to be the norm for this site. Some 50 poster thread is hardly going to stop people getting into Nijisanji, there are already lots of places that will spoonfeed and welcome newness if that is what people want.

>> No.249494

>>248883

Why were they so adamant about not helping newbies who want to explore Nijisanji?

>> No.249599

>>249494
/jp/ culture & fear of turning like the holo threads.

>> No.249782

>>249494
I can do a big writeup of the history of the nijisanji thread but I'm not bothered right now, maybe another time.
But to make it short, the main reason is because /vy/ was filled with nijiholo tribalism and shitposting, and they didn't want to become /vy2/ by allowing newfags who weren't willing to try and fit in.

>> No.249924

>>249494
they will get help if they ask a legit question instead of low quality post like a shitposter would do

>> No.250003

>>249494
You'll struggle to get a proper full picture of Nijisanji if you don't know at least some japanese. Unlike Hololive, there isn't a major clip culture around it. There is, however, extensive secondary material in the form of a massive Nijisanji wiki on the internet. It's in japanese, but it's more than enough to get a newbie started.

The /jp/ threads are full-on current content. Links to ongoing streams, new art etc. The focus isn't so much on discussion and speculation. Newbies that ignore the old "lurk moar" rule of 4chan tend to enter the threads and ask questions no one can be arsed to answer. Bringing up months old scandals, dragging in weird narratives, requesting streamer recommendations and such. Stuff that has been answered a thousand times before, is easily googled, and/or is just (unintentional) shitposting at its core.

Also what the guy above me said, there was a drive to reduce the tribalism that was shitting up other threads and the board at the time. The Nijisanji thread chose seclusion and gatekeeping so they could be left to enjoy their niche thing in peace. Discussion there is possible, just don't be stupid about it.

>> No.250141

>>250003
You mean besides the ones that speak English? Don't need clips for them.

>> No.250167

>nini thread
>people can't stop talking about hololive
sasuga. to be fair though niji spread itself too thin, they should have some kind of focus and possibly less steamers.

>> No.250458

>>249494
not that they won't help at all but sometimes newbies (or maybe just shitposters) put on airs and make broad assumptions of what niji livers are just because they are generally less popular (at least in the west)

>> No.250701

>>244598
Moruru became Luna so all is well. She’s much happier now that she gets to be a baby princess.

>> No.250829

>>250003
>Bringing up months old scandals, dragging in weird narratives... Stuff that has been answered a thousand times before,
Eh... I remember when Miero-Roa exploded and it was easier to find info, clarifications, and discussion from /vyt/ and /hlg/ or reddit about that shitshow than the thread dedicated to nijis. I saw it as a niji streaming sched and fanart thread, which is frankly more easily googled than recommendations or getting a balanced perspective on months old drama

>> No.250860

>>250003
>there isn't a major clip culture
The official EN Niji clip channel and thousands of translated clips exist.

>>249494
/jp/ gatekeeping culture turned up to the max to keep out eops, makes the 2hous autism look normal in comparison.

>> No.250985

>>244545
My poor boy Raito isn't there.

>> No.251124
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Come watch Lulu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCjUtf8gz1k&feature=youtu.be

>> No.251156

>>250829
That's part of the
>dragging in weird narratives
The entire thread was copy pastes of reddit translations, shitposts about whoever was wrong or right, and comparisons to hololive. Posts like "bros..... is Roa dead???" weren't going to be answered seriously.
Drama doesn't get brought up there often to keep shitposters away, most of the anons there already know where to look to keep up with drama.

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his tarkov used to be spelled in hiragana

>> No.251425

Bros....is Roa dead???

>> No.251428

>>246127
I thought Ichikara made good business decisions, what the fuck happened.

Did they think the foreign market was not lucrative enough? Because domestic fans is the ones who whales for merch? Was there just a lack of good EN-JP hybrid talents who can bridge gaps like Coco? I doubt she's legitimately one-of-a-kind.

Hskw speaking english now is just highlighting to me how much she or her manager didn't try to capitalize on it until now.

>> No.251431

>>250860
They do but it is nowhere near on the same kind of level if you are actually trying to follow someone. Even with members that are more popular with foreigners you can go weeks between there being something new and less popular ones months, can probably find some that have next none even. Hololive members are often getting multiple clips daily.

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>>251213
and now it is in katakana

>> No.251514

>>251428
>I thought Ichikara made good business decisions
Ichikara was the laughing stock of the vtuber scene when they started. I'm curious how you got that impression.

>> No.251531

>>250860
>The official EN Niji clip channel and thousands of translated clips exist.
One channel and thousands of fragmentary clips buried in Youtube, where not even its search function will reliably find them all for you. Clips aren't a sustainable way for an EOP to enjoy Nijisanji content. Too many gaps in the chronology and general knowledge.

What if you wanted to learn more about Yamagami Karuta, for example? She has one dedicated translator managing a couple short videos a month. His work's good, but he's all you get. She's well worth following, but you really have to know japanese to get into her.

>> No.251564

>>249494
Don't want their thread to turn into those Holoshit. threads. I actually have respect for them, I lurked a bit before I posted and even then they immediately knew I was new. No happened before in the six years I'm here.

>> No.251586

>>251428
> I thought Ichikara made good business decisions, what the fuck happened.
Lmao their only good decision was encouraging clips. Nobody thought nijisanji was going to survive 2018 with retarded shit like SEEDs collab bans, Hajime burning, Mito doxxing incident, nonsensical idol branding, etc, etc, but somehow they did.

>> No.251668

>>251514
>>251586
Huh. Nijisanji is still a powerhouse in Japan, and they did the whole copyright agreement thing for games they stream, that's about all I went off on.

I guess it's not surprising how hard they have to play catchup with the EN market now if they're that shit.

>> No.251701

>>251514
I don't know if you have only got into vtubers in the last year or so you might get that impression? You would have seen all the stuff like them getting permissions for games, getting sponsorships/collaborations from big companies, having tons of real life events, releasing records on major labels, having more robustly diversified sources of monetisation. Things that Cover is or was playing catch up on for the most part.

>> No.251733

>>251586
>Mito doxxing incident
This is where I can guess you're an EOP who only watch clip and only posting in hololive thread

>> No.251766

>>251668
I think most of the praise came around 2019-2020 where Nijisanji finally got their shit together, marking the upward spiral from Sasaki's comeback, abolishment of collab bans, train of strong debuts like roa, sanbaka, gibara, and lulu, better handling of sponsors, Deron making it big with Lantis, etc. But there was no denying 2018-early 2019 ichikara was shit.

To quote Gundou, she would've quit if ichikara hadn't changed.

>> No.251788

>>251586
Let's be honest, they reacted to drama way better than anyone else. If Hajime or Yumeo or whoever were part of a different company, they'd be long dead.

>> No.251852

>>251766
Many more than just Gundou, likely. The old Ichikara was almost a black company in how they treated their talent. Whoever spearheaded their restructuring process is a miracle maker.

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you guys are such fags

>> No.251986

>>251766
In terms of pivoting for a slice of the EN market, 2019-2020 Ichikara still frankly didn't do a very good job. Their clip channel has good content, but either they aren't playing the algorithm well or they aren't advertising it well because even now it just sees no views, and their subreddit is seemingly dead in the water, a fraction of the size of even the generic vtuber subreddit. I honestly believe that had they forced their way into the western market faster and less half-heartedly then they would have shut Cover out completely. Instead they did this retarded IN rebranding shit that hurt their western branding more than helped it, and put no real effort into it for years. They underestimated the value of the western market and lost big for it

>> No.252073

>>198993
>>199069
Why the fuck are the yanks all banging on about her English Accent. She doesn't have an english accent

>> No.252108

>>252073
hard to have a genuine britbong accent after 15+ years in nipland

>> No.252168

>>251986
I'll tell you why I think their initial EN push with the translation channel didn't work. The translators that they took on were dogshit; they were either existing shitty hololive translators looking for a quick buck, or they were too new to understand to know which clips to choose, or both.
Making scream compilations, funny english moments and collab clips without first introducing any of the streamers was never going to work.
They could have literally copied in chronological order the popular clips starting from 2018 and translated them and it would have worked out. And I know the faggot translators from discord and twitter lurk these threads, so maybe they'll read this and take something from it.

>> No.252213

>>251986
The clip channel really isn't enough to do anything beyond maybe to get some people to notice Nijisanji is a thing that exists. You get maybe 1 a day if you are lucky of some random members. Nobody can really follow Nijisanji members because that channel exists. I don't really know what to make of the reddit though it has got a lot bigger since they started posting there and if you look at the Hololive one around April or May last year you might say the same about it being dead in the water.

>> No.252220

>>251733
You can't even speak English.

>> No.252437

>>252220
not an argument

>> No.255024

Amamiya is a cute girl who likes soap in the food.

>> No.256087

>>244545
Can't believe my cute Setsuna got impregnated by a fellow Niji

>> No.256586

https://twitter.com/rebagacha/status/1357396339089305602?s=20

>> No.256793

/nsgg/ or /nijig/?

>> No.257309

>>256793
/nigg/

>> No.257346

/2434/

>> No.257450

How about none.

>> No.257692

>>246157
Poor Ponko...

>> No.257725

So what was the deal with VOIZ? Why did it fail so badly? How bad could it have been to make two of 4 quit day 1?

>> No.257863

>>245625
We can establish our presence here

>> No.257946

>>246127
Cover didn't do shit until 2020. They were luck as fuck to have the presence they had.

You also have some weird thinking that not having as much having presence in the west makes nijisanji inferior.

You clearly is a holofag who never gave chance to other vtubers outside of that bubble, and only know of nijisanji because of collabs, not because you actually tried anything.

>> No.257972

>>247030
Niji IN exists to this day. Ichikara can absorb those costs.

>> No.258132

Would be nice to have a thread about nijisanji instead of about hololive

>> No.258152

>>257946
ESL-kun you need to calm down, nobody here is saying Cover actually did anything to get a big western presence, we're saying Ichikara shot themselves in the foot.
>Cover didn't do shit until 2020. They were luck as fuck to have the presence they had.
He didn't imply otherwise. He said they blew up thanks to fansubbing, which is pure luck, and that gave them the lion's share of the market to start
>You also have some weird thinking that not having as much having presence in the west makes nijisanji inferior.
Nobody said this sperglord, the topic was whether Nijisanji could recover the western market. That has nothing to do with inferior or superior
>You clearly is a holofag who never gave chance to other vtubers outside of that bubble, and only know of nijisanji because of collabs, not because you actually tried anything.
Learn English and then use that newfound ability to find somewhere else for your tribalist bullshit

>> No.258158

Shizurin didn't do the nyanthing...?

>> No.258175

>>258158
She did.

>> No.258180

>>258132
Most of that is going to be back on /jp/. Maybe if the EN branch hits it big there will be a bigger push for EOP discussion. but until then I wouldn't expect much here

>> No.259079

>>258158
it got privated tho for unknown reasons

>> No.259985

>>251733
Enlighten us, Nippon-kun.

>> No.260189

Why was nijinyanji so poorly handled? They could have at least had the vtubers actually attempt to sing each nyan, as Tamaki did.

Also Roa when

>> No.260195

>>239989
That's not a rrat, that's a prediction.

>> No.260217

>>241105
>>240916
So like a shittier version of Hololive's Ochame Kinou cover?

>> No.260652

>>252073
She's lived in Japan for a decade or two, of course she doesn't sound like the chimney sweep from Mary Poppins. But you can clearly tell she used to lived in britinesia, it's more brit than burger.

>> No.261706

>>258180
I do start to wonder if the EN market isn't just going to turn out to be a relatively short lived fad. The Hololive girls might have got impressive subscriber numbers but the trend for people actually showing up to watch the streams has been nothing but downwards.

>> No.264383

>>261706
It's a fad in terms of immediate growth, but since I don't believe vtubers aren't going anywhere EN vtubers won't go anywhere

>> No.264972

So did you guys like it??
https://youtu.be/S9tGOR0sZcQ

>> No.265013

>>264383
Yeah I didn't really mean that it would go away altogether. More just a lot of the interest might end up dying out and the appearance of it being a highly attractive market to go into along with that.

>> No.266356

>>242706
The obvious choice is Toko, but personally I recommend Mito and I'm a hoshiyomi too.

>> No.266447

Hana is cute!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7gjnmUzE0

>> No.267656

Anyone have the clip of Kanae helping Tsukasa win a game of PUBG? It's the one where Tsukasa was doing a marathon stream without stopping and without eating until he wins a game, and it went on from somewhere between 1-3 days until Kanae helped him all heroic like. This happened like 2 or 3 years ago.

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>>242706
>Likes Suisei
>Doesn't know Toko

>> No.271149

Translate more Joe stuff you shits.

>> No.271155

>>271149
Learn japanese.

>> No.271363

>>271155
>Barbarian language

Never get to work and serve your clown master's interest!

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>>266447
All the Niji ID girls girl are great. I honestly thought they'd be more well known on this board.

Amicia in particular, everyone here please give her a shot. If you like the idea of someone very low-energy compared to most vtubers you'll love her.

>> No.272416

>>271083
Knows by name, I dont watch her

>> No.273548

>>271149
His content is too Japanese even when TL'd.
Just listen to him sing instead.
https://youtu.be/K3T9slKgI0U?t=3914

>> No.275742

>>267656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU14PhpOspA

>> No.275776

>>205571
>>208055
fucking kek

>> No.275782

>>271954
Zea is great too. A shame that people here and in the community i ngeneral like vtubers by numbers and not by their content or personality.

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>>275782
Hana, Cia, Miyu, Layla, Nara, Bon and Zea will always remain some of my favorite vtubers. As for everyone else, even if I can't catch their streams as often, I love seeing them around as support, because everyone in Niji ID just comes across as so naturally close, it's like watching a real group of friends interact.

It sucks to see people so new to scene so obsessed with numbers, but I hope one day they can look past that stuff.

>> No.276519

>>242706
Everyone already recommended Inui so I'll go with Chigusa instead. I really hope we will see those three together again.
>>243541
My top five in no particular order are
Mikoto-sama
Chigusa
Sayo
Debi
Inui

>> No.276561

>>250003
I get why they're gatekeeping but I wonder what exactly is being gatekept. If you want to discuss "widely known" things, you are sent to read the wiki. If there's anything dramatic happening it's gonna be deleted. You say there's current content being discussed but there's barely any of this going on. A few screencaps and posts nobody is replying to. The rest is just art and link dump.

I understand the intention and I agree with that notion. It's just the place is a glorified twitter schedule feed. If the "enjoyment of the niche thing" is happening somewhere it's not there. Sometimes I wonder if people even watch the streams there because most of them come and go completely unnoticed. Seems like it's just the flip side of the 'anything goes' cancer mentality of the holothread.

>> No.276633

>>243745
If it's her, taking same train once 10 years ago would be considered as rape.

>> No.276763

>>276561
It's really the same with the other threads and even /vy/. The only time "proper" discussion happens is when there's drama, and even then most of it is shitposting.

>> No.278344

I remember asking nicely about the Niji version of Holotools in the /jp/ thread and they told me to fuck off. That's not even gatekeeping, that's just being a cunt.

In the end, I just can't get into Niji because most of them only stream Apex. Nui and Lulu are cool though.

>> No.278766
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278766

Hana had a pretty heartwarming moment at the end of her latest Fall Guys stream. Seems she's finally accepted her place in Niji ID, and as Hana Macchia in general. I'm glad for her.

>> No.278973

>>278344
Google "nijisanji holotools" and it's the second result for me

>> No.279448

>>273548
Dude can SING
https://files.catbox.moe/lsadho.webm

>> No.280853

>>278344
Most of them really don't only stream Apex though. This is all the games played on Wednesday this week:

Mario Sunshine, The Beginner's Guide, GRIS, League of Ledgends, Apex Legends, Mario Kart 8, Zelda Majora's Mask, Genshin, Minecraft, Pokemon Black, Splatoon 2, PUBG, Pokemon Platinum, Game Dev Story, Nobunaga's Ambition, Poekmon Leaf Green, Alice Gear Aegis, Unravel, NieR:Automata, Misao, Kirby 64, Xenogears, Papers Please, Zelda Link to the Past, Hanako, Fall Guys, Dark Souls 2

Nearly 30 different titles to choose from in 24hrs.

>> No.281002

>>217507
What is wrong with nijiniggers

>> No.281096

https://twitter.com/_namori_/status/1357557468436459520
They got Namori for the art for the valentine's voices.

>> No.284471

i fucking hate nijiniggers
give me back roa

>> No.284970

>>284471
Tell that to Narukami. He's the one who got played like a fiddle by a menhera and put Roa on ice for things she didn't do.

>> No.284980

>>280853

AFAIK they also hold a hell lot of events with a large participant pool. Just last month they had a Mario Kart tournament, Mahjong tournament, Rock-Paper-Scissor tournament, and some lewd Lotion Sumo fights.

>> No.285016

>>284471
Copyrighted accent, please understand

>> No.285030

>>278973
too much work, fuck off gatekeeper

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>>281096
Someone should hire her to make a vtuber already.

>> No.285205

Who should I draw in a cow bikini?

>> No.285224

>>285205
Your favourite nijinigger with big tits.

>> No.285274

>>285224
> Not wanting the superior flat tits.

>> No.285336

>>285205
Belmond

>> No.285355

>>285205
Rin!

>> No.285491

>>285205
Shiba!

>> No.285617

>>285491
Furry!

>> No.286000

>>285205
Anyone with massive boobs would be nice too.

>> No.286296

Today I dreamed of Roa's revival stream and everyone was happy. I just wanted to tell it to someone so feel free to call me names now.

早いうちに戻って来れなすように。

>> No.286466

>>285205
Levi (stay wholesome she is still 7yo)

>> No.286628

>>285205
Levi (she's still 7yo so someone has to teach her how to make babies)

>> No.286651

>>285205
Lulu

>> No.287525

>>285205
ryushen/akikun

>> No.290661

>>285205
Yumeo

>> No.291032

>>290661
I'd pay to see that.

>> No.292682

>>285205
Chaika

>> No.292833

>>206272
>le reddit boogeyman

>> No.299531

lulu is the only good niji, and sukoya

>> No.299605

>>299531
Lulu is a whore

>> No.299676

>>299531
Reddit opinion

>> No.299698

>>299531
what do you like about them?

>> No.299724

>>198906
Nijisanji west Africa when?

>> No.299750

>>299698
lulu is the goddess of patience in playing games and sukoya has an absurdly sexy voice

>> No.299944

>>285205
Hima!

>> No.301198

do your indo reps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDWUcn_0WY

>> No.301238

Yorumi making some map art on minecraft (I think, that's what she was doing yesterday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pctNTy-_jI

>> No.301651

https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/2606076
I want to buy the Lulu set from this, but none of these are available via buyee. Any advice on how I could still get it? Never really bought stuff from Japan that wasn't via some kind of official western website.

>> No.301921

>>301651
tenso

>> No.304122

Being a nijisanji fan in 4chan really sucks. Not only there's barely any discussion but when threads for them are created, it's just mindless hate or numberfag by tribalism.

>> No.307181

>>299531
i like claire

>> No.308960

>>307181
Slutty nun

>> No.311123

>>304122
It sucks but i prefer it to be this way so niji doesn't get the awful audience hololive has

>> No.312287

Why is Nui always using her t-shirt costume? Her default is the best.

>> No.312628
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312628

>>285205
Who did you choose bro

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