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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Nijisanji Auditions have opened up, applications are due on the 31st.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1499610591953969153

Hololive Auditions have opened up too
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

Previous Thread: >>20072746

>> No.20162844

I've got some basic video editing skills. is it worth making free assets for public use, or not?
Is there anything people would want making?

>> No.20163343

>>20162844
Giving out free shit is a good way to grow your Twitter. It doesn't necessarily equate to viewership but it does help get eyes on you to begin with depending on the quality.

>> No.20164406

>>20163343
>doesn't necessarily equate to viewership
https://sullygnome.com/channel/kurono_gomi/90
https://sullygnome.com/channel/spvwvky/90
these two are probably the most prolific when it comes to giving out free assets on vtuber twitter to the point where i have both blocked because they spam the shit out of my timeline and their viewership is mediocre at best. just don't end up pigeonholing yourself into
>that guy who gives away free assets

>> No.20164473

Hey /asp/ I will vent here a bit.

I wish I could create good content to entertain people. But everything I create feels just like gigacringe. This is the main reason I just keep practicing, making plans and scenarios but never completing anything and putting it out there. Are there any ways to gain more confidence in my content?

>> No.20164586

>>20164473
I know it sounds stupid to say, but don't think about it that much. You'll gain confidence with stream reps. You can keep working to make great content and improve what you're doing, but if you're not putting yourself out there, you'll never get over that initial hurdle. So take a deep breath and hit go live, or publish the video, or whatever it is that you're worried about it not being good enough. You've got this, anon!

>> No.20164682

>>20164473
>But everything I create feels just like gigacringe.
It's going to feel that way for at least 2 months. Get started creating anyway and get over those 2 months of cringe and you'll start to figure out what is good content for you and your viewers.

>> No.20164729

>>20164473
"Kill the part of you that cringes" is honestly the only (and best) advice I've heard. Power through and once you find something that happens to be cringe but also does well, you'll have finally killed it. I've not big at all but I decided to bite the bullet and make one of those "wiggling with a cute vtuber asset" things I thought I was too good for and it introduced me to some new people who I talk to now which helped me with viewership (networking) and overall confidence. It just takes that one success to turn "I'm making a fool of myself." to "I was being autistic for caring about this to begin with."

>> No.20164927

>>20164473
You are pretending to be anime on the internet, and are currently discussing it in a general thread on a mongolian basket-weaving forum, started by a literal whore who is now blacklisted.
The only way is up, anon.

>> No.20165439

How do I fake charisma?

>> No.20165624

>>20165439
Start studying politicians during election year. It doesn't work for long periods of time though. You'll do better over time by trying to improve your entertainer skillset instead

>> No.20166081 [SPOILER] 
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20166081

Been working on some concept art for a spaceman, but I cant get a grip on what a good color scheme would be, any tips or ideas?

I am also working on a helmet off version too

>> No.20166154

>>20166081
Redesign it without even having the idea of a helmet in mind

>> No.20166201
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20166201

>>20166081
this you?

>> No.20166229

>>20166081
I think you should introduce your tits to each other. they look shy

>> No.20166233

>>20164473
My own content always feels iffy at best to me, maybe it'll be good maybe never, I definitely agree with others on the "kill the part of you that cringes" thing. Just make it and post it, at worst it's bad and you need to try again later.

>> No.20166993

>>20130510
>>20130147
https://streamable.com/u4779h

just made it through davici resolve, still got a lot to learn but its a start

>> No.20167095

>>20166993
what does this clip show about you being a streamer if you're just silently going to play apex with music in the background like the thousands of other 0views?

>> No.20167149

>>20167095
it's clearly just meant to be a simple edit anon

>> No.20167173

>>20167095
sry, its an apex frag movie i just made. trying to get my video editing reps

>> No.20167196

>>20167095
he quoted a post replying to him last night about how to make a frag compilation and he very clearly made a frag compilation

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Ohio, /asp/

Did you stream this weekend? It's not too late if not, y'know!

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>>20144165
>make sure yellow cat is fed and watered properly before starting
t-thanks uwu

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>>20161887
>tfw too poor for premade model and too stupid to make one

>> No.20168978

>>20148917
I enter that category. My voice doesn't fit my model, it's a premade from Booth but still really good. I wished I could do a loli voice but both here and on stream people have told me voice doesn't matter as much. Yes, it would be good if voice matched model, but its not a deal breaker, at least for most people.
I'm considering getting my own custom model once I have the means though.

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>>20168867
discord reactive image
>mouth open
>mouth closed
get started

>> No.20170309

>>20168867
do u have 20 bucks maybe i can make an unrigged png for you
im desperate for money im too stupid for a job and my friends are making fun of me i need to destroy them

>> No.20172759

>>20167976
No…
I ended up spending two hours trying to make a first pass at a minecraft skin.

>> No.20173044

>>20172759
why

>> No.20173152

>>20167976
once on friday and once on saturday
they both went pretty well! my views on the saturday one were actually climbing throughout the whole thing which was surprising because i got raided and not many people stayed but i still ended up at 19 viewers at one point but had to end the stream since i can't stream for too long regularly

>> No.20173183

>>20166201
ironically that design never came to mind, Just really like helmets and masks.

>> No.20173422

How do you network and shill yourself if you want to go down the youtube prerecorded path with video essays and whatnot before jumping to streaming? Does it make sense if I network mainly in the vtuber streaming sphere and use twitter, join their discord etc etc like most aspies who stream?
Because I assume there would be some differences since the viewerbase for youtube is bigger than the niche of vtuber streaming.

>> No.20173632

>>20164473
> Are there any ways to gain more confidence in my content
Stop caring what other people think. This is a skill that you can learn and will learn as you keep streaming. The biggest streamers like Jerma, Ludwig, Ironmouse have one thing in common and it’s they’re being themselves without worrying about what others think (and THAT is actually what charisma is). If you feel sad then cry, if you feel angry then mald and use that to farm content. People like twomad are what yoga practioners wish they were when it comes to being comfortable in your own skin.

>> No.20173644

>>20173044
Because I can’t just use an old skin based off of a very old concept of my model that I and a year ago
Or any default skin
Branding, people.
Also I don’t even have a new world set up yet
Or even have started my first stream as a PNGtuber

>> No.20173711

>>20173644
your priorities are all fucked, mate.

>> No.20173858

>>20173644
>Branding, people.
>wastes 2 hours on something no one will watch because he has zero viewers

>> No.20173884

>>20165624
Only boomers fall for politicians. Study your favorite streamers instead and pick up on subtle cues on how they conduct themselves

>> No.20174304

>>20173644
Pay some goon on fiverr 5 bucks to make it and stop wasting your fucking time

>> No.20174386

>>20173644
>based off of a very old concept of my model that I and a year ago
>a year ago
>Or even have started my first stream
maybe "vchanners" isn't actually a forced meme by tiktok shill schizo...

>> No.20174677

When starting streaming, what is a good way to get used to it and not burning yourself out or screwing yourself up the next day for work?
As an example for me, I generally work 9-5, and don’t usually get home until after 6pm. I also have to be up by at least 7:30 to leave for work.
I’m thinking at the most maybe 2 times a week, probably Tuesdays or Wednesdays and Fridays just to get streaming more than once a week around 9pm ADT.

>> No.20174990

>>20166081
Put togetger a moodboard of your refs, inspirations and relatable characters, then we can walk you through. Some of us prefer DMs over discord to avoid attention.

>> No.20175321

>>20173644
>Branding
>2 hours on a minecraft skin instead of buying one for a few bucks
Here's a little secret, people usually pay OTHER people for "branding". You're NGMI though so I take that back, don't waste your money.

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>>20166229
is this better? Im a bit rusty on drawing females

>> No.20175395

>>20161887
Best way to cover my face without affecting the recognition? I'm too paranoid about getting doxxed

>> No.20175459

>>20175395
just be a pngtuber at that point

>> No.20175679

>>20173711
>>20173858
>>20174304
I guess trying to make my own shit from the ground up was a big mistake.

>> No.20175880

>>20175679
making things yourself is fine.
spending 1 year + 2 hours as a TBA because you were working on a fucking minecraft skin that no one will see is a shitty waste of time and a red flag that you don't have the mindset to make it.

>> No.20176710

>>20175679
No, wasting your time on things that don't matter is the mistake.

2 hours on your PNG? On troubleshooting OBS issues? On things that actually matter? Absolutely reasonable. A minecraft skin does not matter, and it's not even expensive to get one made for you.

>> No.20178026

So on the Hololive application, when they ask for my favorite musicians, telling them I love Porter Robinson, Coldplay, and Disney Musicals instead of the truth is the correct play, right?

>> No.20178978

>>20178026
I feel like some of those questions are made to weed out retards who think too hard about them and inevitably don't reply because of it

>> No.20179112

>>20178026
No you have to show your weeb side

>> No.20179868

>>20175880
>>20176710
You are right.
For too damn long ha I been putting off streaming for one reason or another. (Some justified, some not, like vision issues vs being just plain nervous)
I finally have a PC where I can actually play games without everything lagging like hell (unlink laptops), I have a capture device which I should be able to use without mic audio dropping, and a decent library of games to choose from.
No excuses.

>> No.20180143

Is anybody else having issues with tags on Twitch right now?
I played a game with some music on in the background last week, so I used the "electronic music" and "jazz" tags. I've tried removing them in both Stream Manager and OBS since then and they'll disappear for a few seconds only to then reappear, meaning I effectively can not remove them from any of my subsequent streams.
I've already submitted a ticket to Twitch support, but I'd like to know if any of you guys are having similar issues.

>> No.20182083

>>20116305
considering I'm not funny in a vacuum, the answer is no.

>> No.20182820

>>20182083
You aren't in a vacuum, you've got an infinite amount of potential content that has proven to have an audience right at your fingertips. Look around at what other content creators you enjoy are doing.

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>>20145995
>>20146751
I GOT A VIEW WITHIN THE LAST HOUR I GOT A VIEW WITHIN THE LAST HOUR

>> No.20184357

>>20182820
A former Hearthstone YTer who quit last year always mentioned different ways to grow as a HS youtuber.
There are some clip compilation channels who post daily videos with funny moments that we can submit to. Akin to submitting a clip to CMT or
>otakmori

I only know about Hearthstone lol

>> No.20185546

>>20174677
Do you enjoy streaming?

>> No.20185655

>>20183683
Lets celebrate then anon WITH MORE STREAMING

>> No.20187143

>>20174677
if you really enjoy streaming then in your position i'd probably schedule a 7:30 PM stream so you have about an hour to decompress/eat/ set up/etc and that gives you a solid 2-3 hours to stream and have a couple hours afterwards to exist
if you're like me and sleep for like 6 hours that would give you 3-4 hours of free time afterwards but yeah it can be tiring to fit that all in on work days
personally i work 8-3 and stream from 4-7/5-8 which gives me like 4-5 hours of free time afterwards to do everything else and get decent sleep and i usually stream 4 days a week

>> No.20187278

>>20183683
male or female?

>> No.20187521

>>20183683
Did they watch the video fully?

>> No.20189290

wondering if i should send in my app because i put it in already back in jan when they claimed it was open for both genders

>> No.20189647

>>20189290
me too nigga I know they had to say "open for both genders" because of some jap equality law or some shit but if I'm locked out of applying cause I sent my form during that period it would kinda suck
as if I have a shot at getting in anyway lmao

>> No.20189840

>>20185655
i'm about to stream soon!
>>20187278
female
>>20187521
it hasn't updated yet to show me how long they watched, it says it can take up to 2 days to give the data reee

>> No.20189960

>>20189840
>female
got my hopes up and almost submitted my audition tape again for males. good luck anon.

>> No.20190020

>>20189960
there's no shame in trying!!!!!! at least you can say you did it!

>> No.20190085

Solo Cover has having at least 3 months of experience making content as part of their requirements. Good thing applications are "open" permanently for English so I can just work on my portfolio until I feel I have something good to show.

>> No.20190126

>>20190020
i already put an app in back in january as soon as it opened. need to wait until early april before i can submit a second one if they're serious about the "wait 3 months before applying again" part. i just feel robbed because i auditioned for males then two weeks later they announced they were looking specifically for males but refused to answer whether we could resubmit again.

>> No.20190199

Any guide for buying models from nizima? How does it work?
Can't into moon runes.

>> No.20190312

>>20190126
ooh, well this gives you enough time to create a script/audition you'll be really proud of!!!
does the audition for males have a different application link or is it the same one?
>>20190199
i've never bought one but i recommend deepl translator for moon runes!! you can probably pm someone who has a vtuber you're interested in and ask them some questions with the deepl translator. it's very accurate. i used it and ran it by my friend who is fluent in japanese and she said it was perfectly understandable in japanese.

>> No.20190490

>>20190199
i'm pretty sure you need a japanese credit card to buy from there. I could be wrong but I couldn't get multiple cards to work. i gave up on it and bought one from booth. other than that, you can use deepl to translate.

>> No.20190602

>>20190490
Beat me to it, Nizima only works if you have a japanese card. Try booth.

>> No.20190699

i had trouble with Nizima too. might need to update the OP for that. good news is that all the premades i was looking to buy from nizima were also sold on booth so looks like they have the same or very similar inventories.

>> No.20190928

In your opinion what's the age limit for becoming a vtuber?
Be honest pls

>> No.20190979

>>20190928
uhh holo jp have vtuber who are 35+

>> No.20191089

>>20190928
no age limit. become the 45 year old dadtuber that everyone needs right now.

>> No.20191243

>>20190490
>>20190602
I bought a model psd from there to practice rigging with my regular card, are u guys sure it's nizima and not your banks?
>>20190199
Just get kanji/kana for whatever kind of model u want (e.g. "witch girl") and search for it, then click the big pink button. Don't forget to translate description though before you buy as some sellers don't allow streaming/monetization of their model, only plug and play. Also if the model is one of a kind, there's gonna be "1/1" somewhere on the thumbnail.

>> No.20191797

>>20190312
>>20190490
>>20190602
>>20190699
>>20191243
Thanks friends, I don't plan to get big but I want to start streaming for fun and think that a vtuber model would be a nice touch for the viewers.

>> No.20192581

>>20191797
Good luck! It's also worth checking out this https://workshop.bilibili.com/ (previously peacha)
It's all in Chinese and it's a little trickier to get accurate understanding of TOS to a model, but there's some great ones out there. And like nizima there should be an interactive view of the model.
Also check vtuber.gg and twitter as there are a lot of people selling premade models too. Keywords "selling", "vtuber", "model", "psd", adoptable", and "rigged" if you don't want to search for someone to rig it later

>> No.20193075

I just ordered a stream deck.
I'm committing to this.
Is a lotta money to fuck around with, and I play gacha.
I know it's not necessary, but every time I clicking on different scenes in OBS, either my (cheap) mouse will bug out and go to the corner of the screen or I'll misclick and go to the wrong scene.

>> No.20193647

Can we add the Twitter growth guide to the next op https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc

>> No.20194532

>>20193647
what does this say?

>> No.20194877

If I set remove the Mouth Form keyforms and leave them blank, only using the Mouth Open keyform, will that make the mouth only open and close, not bothering to track the expression? Or will it mean that if it detects you smiling, it won't know what to display and would set it to neutral?

>> No.20194907

>>20193075
Studio Mode?

>> No.20196498

Anyone know how people do those custom scene transitions in OBS?

>> No.20196708

>>20196498
what kind of transitions? like a stinger or like a zoom in/out?

>> No.20197230

>>20193075
you can just buy a numpad and mod it to be a streamdeck. save some money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdI_IeP1K3o

>> No.20197990

>>20197230
To be fair anyone who buys a streamdeck as they're starting out just wants to feel professional regardless of if they are pulling in the numbers to warrant it or not.

>> No.20198130

>>20196708
Like if I wanted to have my channels logo appear then fade into the next scene.

>> No.20198221

>>20184357
Are you talking about Solem? Do you have his unlisted videos, by chance?

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>>20172759
>>20173644
I know someone who does minecraft skins for free, she's done two requests for me. I want to pay her but she's a bit paranoid about personal information even if it's paypal. Are you interested? Probably send her a steam game as thanks would work.

>> No.20198437

>>20198130
I just jumped into bed so I can't search stuff easily but you could probably.do a search for a customizable stinger animation that you could edit your logo into

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>> No.20198944

>>20161887
Jesus that's a paper thin pizza in the asp image. Also quick question, should I care about putting tags for my streams or is it just a meme?

>> No.20198995

>>20198944
>tags for my streams or is it just a meme?
ask yourself if you have ever actually clicked on a stream by searching the hashtag

>> No.20199092

>>20198395
>Not sending steam gift card codes instead.

>> No.20199480

>>20198995
good point, I'll ignore them, at least for now

>> No.20199658

>>20198995
Isn't the point of hashtags to be recommended to viewers who watch videos with similar hashtags? In that regards I've clicked on a lot of streams as a result.

>> No.20200233

>>20199658
that's not how it works on twitter

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>>20198944
menhera yellow cat c-cooking stream

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t-teaching other menhera gamers/streamers how to live healthier, happier, and independently!

>> No.20200814

Chat will teach me...

Chat taught me that smoking out of tinfoil pipes is incredibly dangerous, even a socket wrench and paper is better. Thanks!

>> No.20200948

>>20200233
In my defense, I wasn't sure which platform he was referring to in regard to hashtags.

>> No.20202654

Does Niji have premade characters or do they base them around their talents?

>> No.20203003

>>20198437
Okay yeah, I just didn't know the actual term for it. Thanks.

>> No.20203004

>>20202654
All the big orgs are premade, you're probably allowed to make extremely minor tweaks (I think Kiara mentioned that for Holo) but otherwise it's premade.

>> No.20203403

>>20203004
To branch off that, I heard that it’s what guides their decision making in the first place: whether you would fit the character or not. Second is how you would fit with the team and third is what skills you bring. Is that true?

>> No.20203420

>>20203403
None of us are in nijisanji so there's no way to know. your guess is as good as ours

>> No.20203713

i hope cyberlive opens up again

>> No.20203887

>>20203713
What are the benefits over the other corps?

>> No.20203989

>>20203887
You get to keep the model if you go your own way after the contract ends.

>> No.20204504

>Are you applying for an audition for another company?
I'm autistic when it comes to corpo stuff, is this question supposed to filter out any people trying to apply to other companies?

>> No.20204572

>>20204504
Yeah, that means you'll probably jump ship at the first chance.

>> No.20204720

>>20204572
Had a feeling that was the case. What's the odds they're communicating with other companies to verify if I'm lying about this or not?

>> No.20204968

>>20204504
Is this a Nijisanji or Holostars question? Also yes, it’s absolutely a filter. Kaida Haru of Niji said one of the reasons he got in was because he immediately answered that Nijisanji was the only agency for him.

>> No.20205118

>>20204968
They both have that question so I wasn't really being specific, but thanks for confirming my suspicions

>> No.20205194

>>20204720
Dunno about Japan but in my country there's a "secret" HR network that shares info between companies to validate and verify applicants.

>> No.20205735

goodnight /asp/

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>>20205735
Oyasumi, anon. Thanks for your hard work today, keep up the good work!

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The Wise Kyunna of The Lake gave me this advice on vtubing.

Hope it helps, /asp/!

>> No.20206890

>>20203887
>>20203989
they flat out lie on their contracts

>> No.20207444

Bros, I'm suffering from a bit of a predicament that is my fault.

I guess the way to put it best is for me to liken it to Kronii. I don't feel entirely comfortable or myself with a female model, but I want to audition for Niji and Holostars. Is there any way that they'd give me a role / model as a male? Is it worth even auditioning for one of these male roles unless I have a gigachad vocal fry Corpse voice? I wouldn't mind a shota model (or a female one, but a male one would just be preferable)

My voice, sometimes I think it sounds ambiguous, but recently I think it's been a bit too painfully female.

>> No.20207632

>>20207444
Do you actually watch any of the Nijimales

>> No.20207727

>>20207632
Yes, but at least they all actually sound like guys, y'know? [Yugo aside, I doubt they'd want another reverse babi sort of ordeal] And after Vox's success, I gather they'd want more in the same vein as him

>> No.20208283

>>20206651
have you asked these people if they're okay you providing receipts? normally only do this in twitter cancel posts or arguing back that they shouldnt be cancelled

>> No.20208308

>>20207444
You lose nothing applying so shoot your shot anyways. If you get in, there are stories of talents giving feedback/ideas on the design. Don't be too sure though. Niji's Ethyria was model first. Kiara made minor changes iirc. So it really depends.

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>>20208283
I do. I even ask for permission before masturbating to someone. Am good yellow cat. Thanks for your concern, paranoianon.

>> No.20208508

>>20207727
They bit a bullet with Yugo and it's not going well so don't expect another experimental EN male anytime soon. Wait after 3-4 more gens of fujobait before they start taking in more generalized streamers. Then we might see EN mashiro or ryushen. Might be you, even.

>> No.20208738

>>20208508
You reckon they got 5 more gens in them? Isn’t the fad dying?

>> No.20208761

>>20208508
>3-4 more gens
Too much of a stretch there. They probably already realize that the fujo audience can't carry everyone forever. Next gen is guaranteed to have even lower numbers than Noctyx.

>> No.20208797

>>20207444
Drop link so I can drool over you ryushenbro

>> No.20209118

What webcams would you recommend?

>> No.20209396

>>20209118
Do you guys not have phones? You can use your phone's camera as webcam. It saves money, and the most basic tracking works fine even with worse phones.

>> No.20209479

>>20208283
If you look closely at the images you can tell that these >>20208466 >>20129605 >>20128808 >>20128754 are clearly fake. Text does not line up and neither do the gradients or formatting. These are all edited and they are just adding text themselves copy pasting other people's profiles. >>20208466 is not real/

>> No.20209570

>>20209396
Its simpler to just get a webcam. im not fucking around with phone settings when I can get a webcam.

>> No.20209716

>>20209570
You still have to fuck around with webcam settings. Anyways, just get one of the Logitech webcams. Any model will do.

>> No.20209762 [DELETED] 

>>20209118
>>20209396
I think that anon is ready to spend money. The point still stands though, if you want something for starting you don't need anything fancy unless you're trying for hand tracking. imo it's more important to configure your software settings and model correctly. I actually don't recommend VMagicMirror anymore, btw. There's better alternatives.

>>20209479
That is an imposter falseflagging as me.

>> No.20209807 [DELETED] 

>>20209118
>>20209396
I think that anon is ready to spend money. The point still stands though, if you want something for starting you don't need anything fancy unless you're trying for hand tracking. imo it's more important to configure your software settings and model correctly. I actually don't recommend VMagicMirror anymore, btw. There's better alternatives.

>>20209479 (You)
That is an imposter falseflagging as me. Try to get some sleep, anon.

>> No.20209849

>>20209118
>>20209396
I think that anon is ready to spend money. The point still stands though, if you want something for starting you don't need anything fancy unless you're trying for hand tracking. imo it's more important to configure your software settings and model correctly. I actually don't recommend VMagicMirror anymore, btw. There's better alternatives.

>>20209479
That is an imposter falseflagging as me. Try to get some sleep, anon.

>> No.20209857

>>20209807
kek

>> No.20209880

Just upgraded to a full body model fellas, gonna play American Truck Simulator for the reveal stream for 12 hours, wish me luck

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>>20209857

>> No.20209943

>>20209880
Link it, ganbare!

>> No.20210040

Going to properly stream for the first time tonight, wish me luck!

>> No.20210113

>>20194532
Are you unable to see the link? I couldn't publish the content inside Pastebin, something was tripping their filters so I used some other generic text dump site.

>>20209570
I have used several Android apps on old phones to turn them into webcams on my PC. Not much you can do in the realm of customization asides from colour, exposure lock, disabling manual focus... y'know, all the stuff you would probably end up doing with a $100 webcam anyway. Except you could spend under $10 on DroidCam OBS or whatever other app. (You have to pay to unlock manual focus and exposure lock, but it's otherwise free)

Webcam quality is subpar anyway due to the tiny sensor. It's cheaper than buying a second phone, but if you already have an old phone lying around chances are it will more or less perform the same.

>> No.20210128

>>20210040
what are you playing, anon? good luck ! !

>> No.20210183

>>20210113
It works fine.

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>>20210040
>>20209880

>> No.20210442

>>20164406
Have seen people who do that and now people only leech off their free shit. it's depressing really. You try to be of value to the community and you become treated as the guy who is expected to keep providing.

>>20164473
Get semi-wasted before you stream. Just don't go Andrew Schulz on your audience and you'll be fine.

>>20166993
Good start anon! Don't leave the black voids in. Maybe try to add some speed ramping but don't go overboard with it.

>>20193075
I can't ever justify buying the Stream Deck when you are starting out. It's such a pricey piece of equipment, but Touch Portal/LioranBoard/Noobs Commander can be kind of shitty to set up I guess. Would have bought a better mouse instead since that's what's giving you trouble.

Use Studio Mode when you are streaming. It lets you preview the scene before you switch over to it.

>> No.20210508

One YT channel with VODs unlisted and in a playlist vs having VODs in a completely separate channel: what’s the difference?

>> No.20210875

>>20210128
Minecraft, new local world. Also easy enough for me to set up right now.
I might do something else on Switch but that’s only if I can sort out encoder overloading on either my mid-2012 or M1 MBPs. Last I tried, my mic audio kept on dropping out at least unless I hid the preview in OBS.

>> No.20211001

>>20210113
I just like to have my phone next to me to use as a phone so when someone calls me I dont have to shut everything down and fuck with some stuff to take a call. I wanna be able to just pause the stream and take said call. I would also have to buy a stand for the phone and at that point I might as well buy a webcam.

>> No.20211336

>>20211001
oh, i completely forgot people use their phone to receive calls. The last time someone called me was back in August.

the ultimate endgame would be to have an iphone for their superior tracking but i think any cheapo logitech cam within the 100 bucks range should do. If it doesn't explode it's probably gonna be fine, considering image quality isn't really a factor for facetracking.

>> No.20211421

>>20211336
Yeah the only people who call me is my work. Kinda need to have my phone free for them

>> No.20211562

Would people be interested in someone who has never played minecraft before? During minecraft's boom I was cycling through multiple gook and chink MMOs and still haven't played minecraft to this day

>> No.20211568

>>20210442
>people only leech off their free shit
Personally, I think it's the same as anyone who focuses on something, and only produces that content for a while, then spilling out.
For Fushi, over the weekend, someone posted the figures on ASMR focused streamers vs non. Spooky went from "I'm going to make stingers and BGM, all for free, but donos welcome" to "I'm gonna stream". Nobody was interested in Spooky for the streams, only the content. So he has an inflated follower count. Almost like the artist buff, except in this case, it's a debuff.

>> No.20211611

>>20210508
Why would you want to split your audience? Do you do your weekend streams on a different channel?

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There might not be any going back /asp/

https://learnmmd.com/http:/learnmmd.com/convert-vroid-studio-to-mmd-with-one-click/
https://kkhk22.seesaa.net/article/282933265.html
https://www.deviantart.com/eoscustom3d/art/English-Pmx-Editor-v1-1-542100208

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>> No.20212133

>>20211611
I’m streaming on Twitch.

>> No.20212214

I found a really cute /asp/ie and I already want to shower her with stuff!

>> No.20212329

>>20212214
Who?

>> No.20212344

>>20211998
>>20212030
I'm quite proud of myself.

>>20210508
>unlisted
So an online backup? The only significant use of a separate channel that comes to mind is CorridorDigital's main and alternative behind the scenes channel to avoid notification/video flooding.

>>20211562
Yeah, a lot of people are coming back to old games and gaming in general these past 2 years (especially due to covid). Games like Minecraft that everyone knows and most have played have a huge appeal. Arguably, the communities are far superior to whatever new trending streamerbait game is popular, that is, if you want to attract the communities of games that you stream. Saves money and oldies are always great to play together with viewers.

>> No.20212367

>>20212214
inb4 they’re actually a guy

>> No.20212387

>>20212329
yellow cat

>> No.20212470
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20212470

Good morning, aspies.

Don't forget to charge your phone and pack lunch before you embark on your weekly wageslavery! Morning meds, away!

>> No.20212574

>>20212214
>her

>> No.20212585

I keep streaming Master Duel and getting parasocial with my chat. If I stop streaming Master Duel and stream something else do you think they'll stay? I feel like they just started following my for master duel and I keep trauma dumping on them.

>> No.20212900

Probably asking the wrong crowd but how do I appeal to female viewers as a female vtuber?

>> No.20212915

>>20212585
Some might. It depends on if the types of games and your energy catch their attention. Viewers are generally interested in exploring new games and curious about them. Unboxing and first impression streams are really good for developing followings.

PSI huh, thanks for the new terminology. I'd say it matters what and how, as well as who and to a lesser extent when/why you stream.

>> No.20212923

>>20212900
Pyramid scheme with other vtubers.

>> No.20212936

>start streaming on Monday night
>plan next stream for Friday night
>switch to Tuesday night for all other early week streams
Is this a good idea?
Also I eventually want to do occasional third streams probably either on the weekend on Saturdays or do a Wednesday or Thursday stream, but then it’s not as well spaced out.
Also I’m planning on streams in general to be about 1–2 hours each depending on what day of the week it is.
Also I want to play different things and not just stick with one game all the time. I could probably stick with one game at the same time every week and then vary up the other stream or two.
Yes/no? Why?

>> No.20212990

>>20212900
What do you like about the female chuubas you watch?

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>>20212900
Either as a friend or a lesbian.

>>20212923
Join us now and I'll nepotism you a first-layer position in your choice of our finance (), advetising, editing, art (), tech support (), e-prostitution and/or chuubing department. I already got like 15 other aspies involved at varying levels. Kneepads, VRoids, and equipment soon (tm). we're collecting funds to invest in raw materials related to the cyka blyat war industry

>> No.20213256

>>20213171
>e-prostitution
>kneepads
?

>> No.20213269
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20213269

kinda based?

>> No.20213452

Wouldn't setting videos as unlisted make it so that they don't take advantage of Youtube's retarded algorithm, even if they are in a public playlist? Or that's what short videos are for?

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>>20213256
ASMR, onlyfans, gofundme, and Wi-Fi controlled sex toys.

>> No.20213560

>>20213452
I was the one who suggested putting them unlisted in public playlists.

It keeps your video page less cluttered, which is nice

>> No.20213598

>>20213560
I'm retarded? Thanks for the idea.

>> No.20213992

>>20213560
I got than, and I think it's a neat trick, but it still feels like you are shooting yourself in the foot since your content is not getting recommended by the algorithm.

>> No.20214019

>>20213598
The youtube algo is awful, you'll only get a few views (if that) on any VODs. Clips and highlights work better. But you can just save the VODs anyway, in case anyone (including you) wants them in the future.
I can't remember who I first saw recommend it, but it might have been Kongou? I know it's not my idea, but I've posted about it recently.

>> No.20214248

>>20213546
oh wow

>> No.20214304

>>20211998
>>20213560
Neat, thanks.

>> No.20215072 [DELETED] 

goodmorning /wvt/

>> No.20215113

goodmorning /asp/

>> No.20215136
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20215136

https://sketchfab.com/ch_fren
https://twitter.com/chained_tan

I share this. An eye-catching model/L2D is definitely helpful, like that one god-tier artist who started chuubing.

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>>20215113
Have a good day, anon!

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20215585

Hey /asp/ies, please remember to have your full model or reference sheet somewhere that is easy to find.
Scrolling through your media tab to find it (if it's even there) is not fun.
Thanks. t. drawfag

>> No.20215700

>>20209118
logitech C270

>> No.20215912

>>20212900
Be handsome like ange.

>> No.20216029

>>20213992
VODs aren't going to get picked up by the algorithm in the first place, may as well keep your channel clean

>> No.20216061

>>20212574
Yes.

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>>20215585
Thanks, drawanon.

>> No.20217157

is it better to start with a generated png or a generated vroid?

by generated i mean using pre-made parts to make the character, like a png character generator

>> No.20217162

>>20215585
You should have your twitch link in your twitter bio, but you should include your carrd in your pinned post, no matter what the pinned post actually is

>> No.20217210

>>20217157
post what you got

>> No.20217531

>>20216061
Don't forget to buy one of these >>20213546 and turn it on during their streams.

>> No.20217821

Retweeting/sharing my own streams on my personal accounts, yes/no?
I am presuming big NO if keeping opsec

>> No.20218057

>>20212585
My friend used to stream Dead By Daylight and pulled around 50-100 ccv. Then he stopped and moved on to Lost Ark, getting around 10-20 ccv. Some Genshin streamers pretty much can't really play anything else without taking a hit in numbers as well. Just expect that you will retain about 10% of viewership while you shill yourself to a new game community.

>> No.20218187

>>20198221
I was only able to find a couple. One talking about how much money he makes as a full time Twitch streamer/YouTuber and this one https://youtu.be/QdRUV7uj7Lc
He jumped ship entirely to NFTs so I've pretty much lost track of whatever he's doing now. I DM'd him on Twitter to see if he has the links somewhere.

>> No.20218323

>>20217821
That's a bad idea.

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>>20197230
>>20197990
>>20210442
I got an email saying I can't cancel the order so fuck me

>> No.20218574

>>20218517
wowee anon you are easily parted from your money

>> No.20218623
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>>20217210
this is my png

>> No.20218869

>>20218517
Just return it after it arrives.

>> No.20218919

TODAY IS THE DAY I DESIGN MY CHARACTER, PLEASE REMIND ME AT THE END OF THIS THREAD THAT I NEED TO HAVE THIS DONE OR I'M GIVING UP ON MY LAZY ASS

>> No.20218957

>>20218919
just get off 4chan for an entire day and get that shit done you lazy idiot

>> No.20219235

>>20194877
it means you won't have different forms, just mouth open and close.

>> No.20219450

An other day without progress for me.
Be stronger than me frens.

>> No.20219620

>>20174677
eat/shower do whatever you have to when you get home, by 9pm you should be ready to stream and then you can do 9-11 or 9-12

>> No.20219844

>>20174677
I do a 9-5, but work from home. Stream from 7:30 until 10 on weeknights, until around midnight on Fri/Sat if I'm live.
Meal prep is your friend - do your prep reps in your off-stream days, so you can just throw in the microwave/steamer/oven when you get home, and then go live after eating.
Ideally, you also want to do all your prep during the weekend. This is a good time to schedule tweets about "Going live in four hours!" and shit.

>> No.20219966

What are the eye/smile slider for?

>> No.20220044

>>20218517
it's okay just make the best out of it

>>20218623
CUTE!!!!!

>> No.20220536

>>20218517
StreamDeck has built in integration with basically every single software you'd be using for streaming and has dozens of third party plugins that do more. That alone is worth the price point.

>> No.20221035

>>20220044
>>20220536
After I got the email, I told myself these things as copium. Then I saw this >>20218869

>> No.20221085

>>20221035
anon how are you spending over $100 on something without being 100% sure that you actually want and need the thing in question

>> No.20221160

>>20221035
>new ip
????

>> No.20221246

>>20218919
If you need your hand held why not just give up now?

>> No.20221266

>>20221085
Ima material girrrrl

>> No.20221279

Does anyone know if there's a method to post going live in various discord channels with one button or something?

Kind of a huge pain in the ass to post on multiple discord servers I'm in manually.

And yes, it has given me the odd viewer before, since I'm actually active in those communities.

>> No.20221307

>>20221266
no, you are a dumbass

>> No.20221365

>>20220536
Does it include a capture card? Not wort it if it doesn't.

>> No.20221529

>>20221365
>does your car include a woodworking bench and press? not wort it if it doesn't
that's how retarded you sound

>> No.20221571

>>20221279
>Kind of a huge pain in the ass to post on multiple discord servers I'm in manually.
it's simple. you don't. spamming discords is what every ngmi teenager does before they get kicked and banned. no one cares about your stream notification.

>> No.20221742

>>20221529
You're buying a keyboard that bloops yet you call me a retard for asking if a box with "built in integration with basically every single software you'd be using for streaming" possesses the most important one.

>> No.20222082

What's a good way to improve your zatsu skills?

>> No.20222147

>>20222082
talk to people and live a life worth talking about

>> No.20222258

Is there a source for generic sound effects that seemingly everyone in Japan uses?

>> No.20222790

>>20221279
Don't think there's an easy way. Try asking the mods if they can add a bot for your stream notifs maybe.

>> No.20222827
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Where's the secret aspie Minecraft server

>> No.20222997

>>20222827
Can you even use a name other than your account name in minecraft? I don't think I want to pay again just to use a different name on stream

>> No.20223214

>>20222827
i think /vtm/ used to have one but I don't think it's active anymore
if someone wants to host a public server you could probably go for it and one of the OP makers could throw it in the next OP

>> No.20223293

>>20222082
Unironically irl gossiping. Observe how old ladies are good at going into tangents while still keeping good grasp of the main conversation.
Also record yourself talking to thin air about anything and review your own rambling

>> No.20223309

>>20218057
>>20212915

Thanks! Yeah I just started out recently and have been pulling good 2view numbers for a newbie. I think I'll keep playing it because I like it and it is at least a way to get people in the door. Hopefully I'm cute enough/parasocial enough for people to come by without yugioh after I've built up.

I just wanted to know what to expect! I appreciate it!

>> No.20223630

realized that I never wanted to stream, I just wanted to larp.

>> No.20223734

>>20218919
Honestly i feel you, i gotta finish mine. I work 8-5 and live 40 minutes away. I only get so much time to design if im not already worn out when i get home

>> No.20223773

>>20210113
what are some apps to use for an android?

>> No.20224451

>>20222790
Yeah that's what I thought, thanks for the help anon

>> No.20224778

>>20222082
Talking in discord with people helps a lot IMO (for practice)

>> No.20225459

>>20173422
asking again

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>want to do drawing streams
>can’t post on my art twitter because opsec

>> No.20225673

What's a reasonable price for a premade model?

>> No.20225812

>>20225673
Depends on the quality you want. I've seen some decent stuff on nizima go for between 60,000 and 90,000yen but they were mostly half bodies without many expressions. Good ones will still cost you over 100,000 yen

>> No.20225926

>>20225673
if multiple people can buy it 30-50 bucks max.
if it's a premade only one person can use it should be priced similar or higher than a custom vtuber model from that artist. It already includes design, so the price can be higher.

>> No.20226236

Kind of a weird question, but has anyone here tried giving their existing model to a Live2D modeller to „pretty it up“? Do you think such an upgrade would cost less than a ground-up comission? They would be able to use the existing layer structure and parameters after all.

>> No.20226369

How should I handle groomers?

>> No.20226388

>Cubism freezes my computer when I'm using it
Reeeeeeee

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>>20198221
>>20218187
He responded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v63xGN7sYvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8N1fyGk224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92W1EF2sdL0

>> No.20226456

>>20226369
Ignore, timeout, ban. Timeout is optional.

>> No.20226544

>>20226439
Thanks, bro!
I found some on my playlist too
https://youtu.be/dD_noP8r8m8
https://youtu.be/lEbfHJU0uIg
https://youtu.be/_7a2UuMowFI

From my experience, his advice has been the most practical so far.

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>>20226544
>The Perfect Start on YouTube in 2021
>Uploaded: Dec 30 2020

>Last video on his main channel
>Uploaded: Dec 30 2021
>only uploaded because he signed a contract with skillshare months before

>Captcha: AWKYS

>> No.20227156

>>20226369
I might be a little dumb.
What would grooming look like?

>> No.20227368

how long do yall think it will be until the next round of nijisanji applications after this upcoming one

>> No.20227583

>>20226369
Pretend to take the bait. For the money.

>> No.20227791

>>20227583
t. Groomer

>> No.20227920

>>20226369
Let me groom you!!

>> No.20228112

what are some things to avoid in vtuber design? and dont say dont make a cute anime girl

>> No.20228446

>>20228112
Don't make something extremely edgy. May I recommend a cute anime girl?

>> No.20228485

>>20228112
Don’t make a generic “lol anime boy xd” model.

>> No.20228558

>>20228112
Is it cool enought to make someone want to draw it?
Is it cute enough to make someone want to draw it?
Is it sexy enough to make someone want to draw it?
If all of the answers are no, back to the drawing board.

>> No.20228565

>>20228485
>lol anime boy xd
Post examples please

>> No.20228608

>>20227791
>it is not the streamer who is groomed, but rather, the streamer is the one grooming

>> No.20229233

Is it worth buying a refurbished iphone x just for the tracking?

>> No.20229255

>>20227791
I am a viewer-turned-chuuba and I wish I had someone try to groom me like I tried to groom 2views

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20229304

Am I in some kind of silent twitternjail?
Never tweeted on my vtuber account until just now.

>> No.20229345

>>20229233
Thats something you'll have to ask yourself anon. But for what its worth, I recently switched and traded in my old phone, and the tracking on my Iphone is good compared to my samsung which was decent. My samsung still did its job, I just wanted the fancy bells and whistles. If thats worth it for you, go for it.

>> No.20229402

>>20227368
6 months

>> No.20229499

>>20228446
edgy designs are usually boring anyway

>> No.20230239

>>20229304
Oh. I had my stream link in it near the bottom of the tweet.
Removing it and putting it as a reply worked
what

>> No.20230399

>>20228112
Nothing, it doesn't matter nearly as much as you think as long as it's conventionally attractive or appeals to a common fetish. For every "don't do this!" I've seen so far, there's at least one successful person doing just that.

>> No.20230450

>>20228485
why

>> No.20230460

Should I let my parents and close friends know that I'm a vtuber at the start to boost views?

>> No.20230498

>>20230460
Lol no

>> No.20230574

>>20230460
Friends- Sure, thats what I did. I don't know why you'd let your parents know lol. I feel like that would make first stream awkwardness even worse.

>> No.20230660

>>20228485
>linechu (vroid hoodie)
>me2oon (was a vroid hoodie guy til a couple of months ago
>Zenlight (hoodie/cardigan)
>Aomi (hoodie)

>> No.20230765

how hard do you think corpos are gonna background check streams
my numbers are really solid but i was.. lets say not the most wholesome person in my older streams

vods are obviously gone but i made no attempt to hard scrub it so its possible theyre floating on some data scraper somewhere

>> No.20230873

>>20230765
Hololive, no clue. Nijisanji probably doesn't give a shit considering they got someone that faked their own death for fun.

>> No.20230879

>>20230765
Nijisanji hired a dude who faked his death the fuck do you think?

>> No.20230977

>>20230879
i forgot that guy exists you're 100% right kek

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>>20230239
Now Twitch won’t let me add a specific date to my (empty) schedule? Weird but ok.
I better be able to actually stream tonight.

>> No.20231630

>>20230765
Was it racism?

>> No.20231960

What stream tags should I benising make n Twitch?

>> No.20232008

>>20231960
Benis

>> No.20232023

>>20231960
the most "important" ones are English and Vtuber
First Time is good to avoid spoiler

>> No.20232044

How did Kabhaal and Papi grow themselves? By streaming non-stop? Their channels are funded by their community but how did they get the community in the first place when twitch discoverability sucks

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>>20232044
one thing that i see that few people do is react content in the vtubing community, it's a recipe for right views to just react to something incredibly popular on the same week that it's released
papi is using both youtube shorts and tiktok with great success, one funny thing that he did on tiktok was to advertise his twitch right on the title, after you get that initial growth and at least like 5 viewers to stick around you can shill yourself less, people here are always afraid of shilling
both also stream consistenly like you said, especially Papi that stream for very long but even when they are offline they maintain their activity on yt/twitter/tiktok, this is pretty important to do if you want to actually create a community

>> No.20232474

>>20232044
By making content. WILD concept in these threads I know, but believe it or not you need to create content outside of Twitch to grow. Streaming non-stop does absolutely nothing unless you're already popular.

>> No.20232547

>>20232469
4chan schizos see react content as bad so they avoid it despite it being the most popular type by far. I actively go down in viewers when I swap over to a game so a lot of my growth was purely off of having fun and watching YT videos with my community.

>> No.20232600

>>20232474
Define content

>> No.20232723

>>20232600
If you need a literal definition then you're ngmi. You shouldn't need what "content" spelled out for you, especially when they both have Youtube channels and twitter you can look into yourself.

>> No.20232748

>>20232474
Papi and Kabhaal barely touch YouTube and TikTok as much as they stream. Maybe twitter they’re active on. The real answer is collabs and algos.

>> No.20232773

>>20232600
videos, shorts, highlights, tweets, shitposts, art, schedules, memes

>> No.20232836

>>20232748
>collabs and algos.
you can tell viewers because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about but are so proud to state their retarded takes.

>> No.20232853

>>20232748
>barely touch tiktok
>papi has daily tiktoks that are also shared on Twitter

Kabhaal was 100% all in on YT before swapping to Twitch, it's where he grew his initial audience and after that just networked because he already had numbers.

>> No.20232857

>>20232836
Post channel

>> No.20232926

>>20232748
>papi barely touches tiktok
>nearly daily uploads
What do you gain from lying? I'm genuinely curious. This took me seconds to double check.

>> No.20233006

>>20232748
Collabs help you grow AFTER the fact. No one wants to collab with you if you're a fucking 2view that thinks you can just go live and grow without any other form of content. Even if you count the extremely rare chance that another large creator will see your hard work and throw you a bone, you still need to actually have content that isn't solely your livestreams.

>> No.20233045

is gaming & react content the only stuff you can stream without debuff?

>> No.20233076

>>20233045
anything is a debuff is you think too much

>> No.20233116

>>20233045
Is it the only content you see people stream successfully? Use your head.

>> No.20233139

>>20232748
>The real answer is collabs and algos.
there are thousands of NGMIs doing collabs every fucking day and none of them are growing. so are you saying that it's just all "algo"? that random chuubas only incline because of sheer luck?

>> No.20233157

>>20233045
I will never watch media share reaction streams.

>> No.20233234

>>20233157
That's fine, for every one person who dislikes them, there's tens of thousands of potential viewers out there who loves them. It's by far some of the most popular content out there right now.

>> No.20233326

>>20233116
yes

>> No.20233389

>>20233326
Then there's your answer. Two of the easiest forms of content to create without depending on any other prior skills. Anything else you'd actually have to be good at to accomplish on top of still needing to be a decent entertainer.

>> No.20233397

>>20233234
and it sucks the sovl out of you

>> No.20233408

>>20233006
Sometimes I wonder how many people in this thread have actually made it. If you’re a streamer then you need to stream. THAT is your content. You need to keep getting better and better as a streamer, this also involves networking with others by being active in their community. Stuff like making youtube videos and TikTok’s is cool but not as economic as just getting better. Btw, the beauty of networking (aka making friends) is that even as a 2view you can get a raid from a 1000view if they like you. Streamers are people too and if you can befriend them you can collab with anyone. This will involve people skills, a good opportunity, and being a nice person.
>>20233139
There’s literally a Chiba that got 3k followers on Twitter yesterday just making 3 posts. Algos help you A LOT because it removes the number one obstacle on twitch: discoverability. This is why you have males that barely say anything that have thousands of views just being on the front page.

>> No.20233724

>>20233408
>not as economic as just getting better.
Creating content and learning what does or doesn't work for you is part of what helps you get better. Before I knew what was what, I had a routine I followed where I'd chat, then watch a few videos I thought might be fun to react to, then play the game of the day. You're right networking is important too, but part of what makes people, especially larger ones, want to be friends with you is to know you're not just some random leech but someone actually trying to create decent content. It's also not something you can or should depend on because it's not nearly as reliable. It feels like you're focusing on such a small margin of extremely lucky success stories and acting like it's the easily replicated norm.

>> No.20233832

>>20233408
>If you’re a streamer then you need to stream. THAT is your content.
Yes, and where else will anyone find that content if it's not on YT, Tiktok, or Twitter? Why do you think a majority of people's growth occurs while they're offline, not online? It's that content you created on stream being uploaded to other sites that people are actually seeing. You go live, create content while live, and piece that into something easier to consume and upload to different sites.

>> No.20233956

>>20233408
>Sometimes I wonder how many people in this thread have actually made it.
says the viewer who has never made anything, much less "it"

>> No.20234038

>>20233408
>There’s literally a Chiba that got 3k followers on Twitter yesterday just making 3 posts.
>he points to the literal exception to the rule
banking on algo like that is retarded. how many hundreds of chuubas post their models every fucking day? there are 3k "vtuber debut" tweets each week and you saw ONE fucking chuuba who used a pre-made model going "mommy mommy"

banking on algo is the same as banking on the lottery to win. it's not workable for 99.99% of chuubas and even those who the algo helps ONCE can fumble it up. that chuuba you're pointing out is a TBA who isn't streaming for a month. you think that 1 tweet is going to carry her to made it territory when she'll be forgotten by the time she debuts?

>> No.20234137

>>20173884
>Only boomers fall for politicians
Have you lived under a rock for the last half a decade? Also copying people's manneirisms doesn't work unless you already have a strong baseline to work with

>> No.20234186

>>20234038
Nobody said anything about banking on algo. That reply is an answer to a question.
>>20233956
Keep projecting. You’ll never make it if you don’t get good. You can spend hours editing content on YouTube but it’s pointless if your core content, the actual stream, is dogshit. And I can say that because I’ve streamed longer than most never debuts in this thread.

>> No.20234324

>>20234186
>You’ll never make it if you don’t get good.
says the viewer who just claims the algo is the be all end all and uses a single fucking tweet of a premade model as an example.

>> No.20234417

>>20234324
I didn’t say that but whatever helps you sleep at night. Also, another reason why you won’t make it: you think streamers and viewers are supposed to be separate. If you want to be a good vtuber you need to be an active viewer of your own vods and others. That’s how you’ll figure out quickly what type of content you want to make. All successful vtubers are active viewers of content.

>> No.20234669

>>20234417
ok you can go back to the trashcan now, viewerfaggot. you're not that important and you've had your fun.

>> No.20234751

>>20234669
What is this "viewerfag" meme? The most baseline of /asp/ie barely knows more than your average viewer does outside of the way OBS functions.

>> No.20234868

>>20212900
Be handsome or be cute. Or just be yourself and work on charisma :)

>> No.20234950

>>20234751
It’s the standard copium for debut TBA when confronted with the harsh reality of why they’re dogshit streamers. Let them implode

>> No.20235207

>>20234751
>What is this "viewerfag" meme?
viewers who jerk it to cp from the trashcan come in here and shit up the thread claiming they hold the sacred knowledge about how to grow as a chuuba. viewerfags need to know their place as nothing more than a statistic.

>> No.20235676

>>20235207
lol
lmao

>> No.20235718

>>20235207
it was a little off base but not 100% incorrect. The "algo" part was a bit of a stretch but at the same time, Kabhaal knew 100% what he was doing when he reacted to that Mori song because it was such a huge hot topic at the time that just about every video good or bad was getting major hits just by using her or the cover in the thumbnail.

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>tfw your friend has an honest conversation with you about the last 6 months of streaming
>be in an environment that snuffs out your aspirations
>make my model myself
>build a small community of friends
>achieve 3-12 viewers avg
>friend compares me to others who started after me and have 8 times the followers I do
>suggests that i'm going to get nowhere without playing popular games
>other friend bets that i'll quit before the end of the year
>mfw this is the last dream of a dying psyche

>> No.20235926

>>20235765
Be yourself. If you can’t tell him to fuck off then ignore him. Believe it or not, there are techniques to growing solely through gaming on Twitch. Try high follower low streamer games. I suggest not playing popular games unless they’re games you’re active in (like Genshin or FF14) don’t play Elden ring or lost ark tho if you want growth

>> No.20235960

>>20235765
get better friends
alternatively keep going and grow big to rub it in their faces
i know a ton of channels that started with feelings of rage or spite and kept going after that
you will make it if you keep going anon, i believe in you

>> No.20236059

>>20235926
>Try high follower low streamer games
I don't know if you've tried this, but it's total BS. Very few people are actually watching the games they "follow", it's essentially a dead function. The few stragglers you get will just leave when you aren't playing that game.

The one thing that should be focused on the most, regardless of what game you play, is your level of entertainment while playing something. some games are easier than others for people to entertain and play off of but in the end it's your edited down off-site content that attributes the most to growth. You need it.

>> No.20236274

>>20236059
> Very few people are actually watching the games they "follow
I don’t get the point of this statement. Would you rather play games that have low follower counts? The higher the follower count the more likely people will tune in and watch you. The strategy has worked well for me so far.

>> No.20236560

>>20235765
>you won't get anywhere unless you do (thing you don't like or want).
kill your friend

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>>20235926
it sucks because i was active in FF14 during Stormblood but i've grown too accustomed to client mods and overlays. Genshin feels like a primed drama landmine waiting to go off so for the most part i'm avoiding it because chat tends to be dead

>>20235960
i want this badly to happen, so much from the bottom of my heart. i had a friend who i used to collab with who raided me really early into my chuubing with over 200 people, and eventually when she got twitch partner, she just tossed me like a wet paper towel.
i was always there for her doing my best to help uplift her content and indirectly promote myself and all I got in return was jack shit, not even a position as a third wheel. i loved being around her friends doing group raids. but after partner, she went menhera and pushed everyone away, kept with her core friend group and burned bridges with everyone else.

i want to grow big, not the paltry 15k she has, i want to fucking quintuple that and raid her, and leave a passive aggressive message, "thanks for investing in me during 2020, here's the raid back with interest."

nobody deserves to be treated like this, but I won't delude myself into thinking there'll never be any justice for everything that happened.

>> No.20236818

>>20236666
>>20236666
>>20236666
>>20236666
>>20236666
New Bread. I rolled Satan quads, lads.

>> No.20237237

>>20236818
Is this a subtle satansquares reference?

>> No.20237691

can one of you guys beat yellow cat to being the op next time pls

>> No.20237921

>>20237691
he is the one doing it wrong, we don't create the thread until the next one, just wait till he goes asleep

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>>20237691
>>20237921
Contain you're autism.

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>>20237962
y'o'u't'tb'rrr'e

>> No.20238014

>>20237962
I unfortunately have more neurotypicality in my pinky finger than you do in your entire body, Michael

>> No.20238055

>>20238001
whom'st've

>>20238014
So why are you wasting it here?

>> No.20238098

>>20235765
If playing apex or other pozzed shit is a requirement to make it, I won't even try. Fuck compromising myself.
I'm going to play my games, period.

>> No.20238124

>>20237921
Noted, I really don't wanna post in that one

>> No.20238263

>>20238124
>page 11
See you tomorrow.

>> No.20238400

>>20238124
who cares bro, it's just an aspie creating threads

>> No.20238418

>>20238124
then don't

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