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No OP? Edition

Previous: >>20473111

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/
Territories map:
https://de.catbox.moe/t1i8xj.jpg
Map with coloured and labelled countries
https://files.catbox.moe/4uzmap.png
Map with no borders:
https://de.catbox.moe/ay0pbj.jpg

CURRENT GOAL:

>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs
>/clg/: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis
https://rentry.org/zo5ke
Tectonic Plates and their Movements
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

FLAG POSTS
https://rentry.org/ah74h

LORE PROMPTS
https://rentry.org/7nt3b

LORE ARCHIVE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.20521029
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20521029

Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated lore in OP!

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20521092

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>> No.20521138

CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What's common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much does the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?

>> No.20521256

Meat, maybe it’s good to start trying to learn kikineese so you can contact with pyon. You may wanna trade in future

>> No.20521660

>>20521256
implying there aren't /meat/ champyons already
It does look pretty good

>> No.20522111

Thank you breadmaker

>> No.20522229
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>>20521092
>>20444112
Is this a good enough post for a vote ballot? These are the votes from the /morig/ rep.
https://rentry.org/5dv3r

>> No.20522716

>>20521660
Based

>> No.20523841

I should have official numbers for the /nasa/ weapons vault tallied by tomorrow. Gear is not as much as you think it is. Its not enough to take over a country. So don't worry.

>> No.20524198

>>20523841
Looking forward to it! It was cool to read through the first version. Based on the discussion we had regarding the strength of those suits, I think this'll be a good addition to the lore.

>> No.20524585

>>20524198
I didn't write the rentry. I'll post numbers as a log report here. The entry is less than a post.

>> No.20525119

>>20521092
Forgot to link the second round: >>20475327

>> No.20525386
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>>20475327
Aight, Voteanon mentioned me in his post so I was extra motivated to get this done by the time I said I would.
Here are four proposed concepts for the North Pole.
A has mostly an open sea, with the Arctic countries' territory reaching a ways into the polar circle.
B has a landmass based on the old map for the Holocontinent. Most of this territory would be best classified as unclaimed schizo wastelands, as similar to IRL Antarctica this territory would thoroughly inhospitable to human life.
C is the same, with a strait in the shishilamy territory such that the passage of ships is made possible in the right conditions (more on that later).
D is another variation, now with another strait in the schizo wastelands.
The circles are very rough estimates of where the sea ice boundaries might end up in summer and winter based on the latitudes reached by the ice shelf in this IRL satellite data:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/category/analysis/page/18/
https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/seaice.html
The actual territory covered by this ice depends on a plethora of complex factors. In general, there would be more ice closer to the land, and less ice in the middle of the ocean.
In other words, it seems like regardless of the option chosen, this Arctic ocean would be very difficult to navigate at any time of the year given our current technology level.
Please ignore the difference in sculpt quality for the Holocontinent between A and the other options. Also, keep in mind that all this material is WIP and will be adjusted through feedback and the refinements I will make either way.

t. /3/-chan

Also there was a clock shitting his pants about /inf/ island getting smaller, I'd like to reiterate that was some WIP on the side and no changes will be made to the island without discussion with the /inf/ rep.

>> No.20525514

>>20525386
Oh, I guess I should mention, the straits are about 100 kilometers wide here.

>> No.20526256

>>20525386
I like D. And I hate the anti-clock.

>> No.20526385

>>20522229
Yeah should be fine. Just one thing I'd like a clarification on; for the last question, you mean /who/ keeps the land but we place a guarantee that if /uuu/ gets a rep they can ask for it back?

Also won't bother making another vote post for this thread, Reps' replies can go to the anchor post

Also also, do you guys think it'd be a good idea to make a different reentry link with just the tenets/decisions passed? It'd probably be good to have them all in one place.

>> No.20526548

>>20525386
Im okay with D
Under one condition that the straits are heavily guarded because of schizo troll pirates

>> No.20526633

>>20525386
Thanks for the work anon!
From what I can tell, it means that in most proposals, the north holo bay will be pretty much inaccessible from the east due to sea ice (which might extend further than the circles since the data used in the approximation comes from modern time where sea ice extent has been retracting?).
If the intention is to make the north holo bay accessible for shipping from the rest of the world, then it feels the best option will be a variant of D, where the polar island is removed without schizo wasteland extending north like in proposal A.
Since land will make the ice sheet more extent, the straits in both C and D seems unlikely to be navigatable most of the time, kind of like a shorter Northwest Passage, with the strait corresponding to the strait between Baffin Island and Devon Island.

>> No.20526664

>>20526385
No, what is meant is that /uuu/ keeps the land, and no further annexing is proposed until a /uuu/ rep arises. Basically a pinky promise that this deal can only go forward if there's an active /uuu/ rep. But for ease of vote count you can count this as a vote for /uuu/ keeping the land.
A record of the voting history you mean? I think that'd be a grand idea, would make a lot of stuff later on easier.

>> No.20526976

God i wish the indifferent threads would join
I mean I get that they just wanna watch chuuba and waifufagging like we do but surely you could come over in-between streams
It would be much more productive than endless baits and schizo threads

>> No.20527045

>>20526664
Anon the question was asking if the deal should be voided, you answering N means you suggest the deal should not be voided, therefore /who/ keeps the land.
What you said is what I got from the rest of your vote commentary, which is why I was confused.

Also, voting history is one thing, where all the vote prompts, tallies and results are written, like the post from the end of Round 1. What I mean is a separate rentry link to that one, with just the results.

>> No.20527125

>>20527045
Oh, err you're correct. I blame that on the deadbeat I took the answer from kek. Yes, this should be a Y, I have amended the rentry.

>> No.20527318

>>20526633
Thanks! Honestly, the initial intention was just to figure out what the fuck was going on in the poles lol. Could you pull out Paint to sketch how you envision this D variant? I'm not sure what the change you suggest looks like.

>> No.20527381

>>20526976
My aim for even starting this whole voting process and establishment of a decision-making system is to have a way to iron out a lot of the remaining details necessary quickly and efficiently, so that we can, hopefully soon, send another envoy post to all threads asking for their participation. Having us be organised and with a skeleton (no, not you deadbeats) for the lore of the world where other threads can build upon will make the project more attractive, and may increase the number of interested parties that join and continue to get involved. We've already had threads leave because of timeloops, I'm trying to get us to get them out of our system now, and have a method to restrict how often they happen, lest we have another nuefag situation.

>> No.20527414

>>20525386
D is the best.

>> No.20527424

>>20527381
I'm nue, what happened to nuefag?

>> No.20527467

>>20527125
Kek cute drumbeat

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>>20527318
I'm aware of that, but it's obvious that the canals are a sticking point for the polar design, and the main reason behind it is maritime trade, especially with countries in the northern holo continent. As such, if the plan is to allow those countries maximum access to global maritime trade, then the fewer land there is in the pole, the better, hence my suggestion of opting for D-variant (picrel), where the pole is mostly ocean.

>> No.20527955

>>20527540
Ahh I understand. Conceptually, it's more similar to A, just with shorter extensions into the polar circle. If the people an open Arctic ocean I think they'll probably vote for A.
It would kind of bother my autism a bit to have two polar oceans instead of a polar landmass and a polar ocean like the Earth.

>> No.20528004

>>20525386
Vote anon (Sakuran) here, great work anon, your effort is much appreciated.
Now that you've provided the details, I'm not sure whether to include the options in the vote post or leave them for a subsequent one, or even just leave them to be discussed on the thread and just have a general consensus be reached. Any ideas?
>>20527424
This is exactly how you start the nuefag timeloops kek
Not gonna answer to avoid that, but you could start reading this general's archives between roughly 02/02-26/02(dd/mm), though it may spill over to March or end earlier in February, I don't recall. They're... an interesting read

>> No.20528169

hello everyone. /meat/head here. i had a few proposals regarding chuubanite and how the magic system would work. https://rentry.org/ebcbo
i'm probably going to go to bed soon, but while i'm here i'll try to answer any questions you guys might have about it, but basically, it's my attempt to explain what is going on in terms of the magical effects/heavenly realm in what i call a hard sci-fan (science fantasy) sort of way.
i hope you like it.

>> No.20528246

>>20528169
fuck, forgot to anchor. this is just a suggestion by the way. moddifications are expected over time, but i personally really like the way it works for my thread. >>20521029

>> No.20528252

>>20527955
The main difference between A and the D-variant is that the schizo bulge and /ppt/ bulge extends for into summer sea ice extent, which means that the northern holo continent coast will be blocked off by ice from the rest of the world before the advent of icebreakers, and even then it's hard to tell if pre-steam icebreakers can go through the ice there.

>> No.20528286

>>20528004
I think having a proper rep vote on it is the way to go to avoid limp flip flopping on the topic. As for having it in the vote post or in a later one, that's up to you. Is there a reason to not have it in the next one?

>> No.20528639

>>20528286
I agree, still thought I'd ask.
>Is there a reason to not have it in the next one?
Not sure if anons want it decided now (well, Sunday night when I get the results up) or not. I'd say waiting for the next vote post is better, since some votes have already been cast at this point, and it'll also let us flesh out the proposals a bit more with clarifying questions etc

>> No.20528698

>>20528252
As mentioned, the sea ice extents are just haphazard guesses on my part, I think we'd probably have a channel open up to the North of /ppt/ for at least a part of the summer regardless. That's one of the benefits of the 15 degree shift I guess.
Hmm. Now I kinda regret putting the ice extent circles there, they might seem more authoritative than they are.
>>20528639
Sounds good to me!

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>>20527467
Well, that's a new one.

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Expand to the Rushian lands in the name of the rratqueen!

The Empress Protects!

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>>20528698
I think that's kind of doubtful, considering that the northern edge of /ppt/ bulge would be somewhere near the same latitude of Rudolf Island (near 60 E). Considering that the pre-industrial sea ice concentration in that area is higher than that of the Northwest Passage (see north of Baffin Island), I feel it's hard to say it's truly navigatable by ships alone. They might need something like sleds to cart goods across the ice sheet between boat trips.

>> No.20529387

>>20529237
It's cockroaches who have radiation resistance, not rrats. Does the moth holo have a general?

>> No.20529548

>>20529266 (Me)
Should note that this only applies to RL ships. Suitable and sufficient chuubanite effects can potentially overcome the obstacle.

>> No.20529825

>>20529237
The entire swat of land is pretty much already ours. The only threat are the Haaton barbarians and Nousagi war criminals.

The West is already a no contest. All we have to do is subjugate the Sanallite tribes, turn them into slaves and use them as fodder against the stupid Hoomans.

>> No.20529840

>>20529266
>>20529548
I guess my point is moreso that the ppt bulge is like 2 degrees of latitude closer, so however inaccessible it is for D variant, or for A, or for vanilla D, it'll all be similar. The whole ocean is North of the 75th parallel, so for most of the year you're not getting a ship through there regardless.
Amphibious chuubanite-powered ships that crawl on the ice and become wind-powered sleds though, that would be kino as fuck.

>> No.20529869

OGsuner here. Just read an absolute fuckton of cool ass shit last thread and my god am I proud of ri2ner and everyone else for making the map so far. 2am here so I'm gonna pass out you all enjoy and I'll be looking forward to responding to lore updates (I'm looking at you /meat/)

>> No.20529901

>>20529825
>Sanallite slaves
>Literally niggers

>> No.20529902

>>20529840
2 degrees closer to the North in A compared to D*

>> No.20530048

Needs to be divided into continents with relevant names

>> No.20530050
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>> No.20530228

>>20530050
KILL ALL NIJI AND VSJ XENOS!

HOLOLIVE MASTERRACE!

TENNOU HEIKA YAGOO BANZAI!

>> No.20530299

>>20530048
Hololive should all be in one Europe-like continent where they'll industrialize before anyone else

>> No.20530378

>>20528169
Just gave it a read, I like it a lot /meat/head. Deadbeat here, I would definitely align with the hard sci-fan chuubanite philosophy, seems like it would make for more coherent worldbuilding.

>> No.20530423

>>20530228
No fucker.
We'll vote on who becomes Emperor of the Holy Hololive Empire much like the HRE.
Yagoo is POPE

>> No.20530454

>>20530378
ty, deadbeat. it means a lot. :D do you have any questions or suggestions regarding it?

>> No.20530563

>>20530454
Some reflection of actual history would be nice and would make the world seem more organic.

>> No.20530655

>>20530563
idk how to do that, desu. maybe someone else could work that out. still, thanks for the feedback.

>> No.20530990

>>20530454
I think the blurb stands well on its own, but I guess there's a bit of vaguery on a point. For /meat/ the physiological effects come from prayer combined with chuubanite, if I understand correctly, but something as vague as prayer can be interpreted in many ways. For other countries, could the connection with the heavenly realm be achieved by following the chuuba's principles, or by propping up certain abstract concepts? Could you have chuubanite for atheists, if they were sufficiently passionate atheists?

>> No.20531235

>>20530990
/who/? as i said, belief and conviction in a concept are what prayer ultimately means in this case, so theoretically if you believe in and are convicted to a principle such as humanity or progress, that would have a similar effect.

>> No.20531292

>>20531235
>convicted
you know what i mean.

>> No.20531508

>>20529840
I had my thoughts on that, but it doesn't matter anymore, because
>Amphibious chuubanite-powered ships that crawl on the ice and become wind-powered sleds though, that would be kino as fuck.
I fully agree with this idea. It's too cool not to be a thing.

>> No.20531546

>>20531235
Yep, makes sense to me. I might try looking at the deadbeat physiology through this lens, see what I find.

>> No.20532066

>>20528169
Uh, I'm rather not smart, but if i could make a comparison, it'd be something similar to WH40k's warp, wouldn't it? or FMA03's way of powering alchemy, through another dimension

>> No.20532168

>>20532066
Threadreaderchama, these are the specific examples /meat/ used in his rentry.

>> No.20532211

>>20532066
ya, that's one of the comparisons i made.
>The heavenly realm works a bit like the outer warp from 40k. Worship and faith actualize a concept, almost like giving it form, and thus belief and conviction are a kind of energy source that the heavenly realm feeds off of.

>> No.20532235

>>20527125
Weird looking over the thread we discussed this in I'm not sure where that got mixed up. I guess it doesn't really matter now though

>> No.20532298

>>20532168
>>20532211
Oh? shit, I just got to that part, that was dumb of me.

>> No.20532407

>>20532298
no worries, anon. it was clever of you to be able to make that connection before i even mentioned it.

>> No.20533580

Say what you want but /meat/ is hard carrying this place

>> No.20535021

>>20533580
you can say they have a lot on their plate, if you know what I mean...

>> No.20540591
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OGsuner
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if I didn't join the thread.
>Made risu independent and stopped the canal dispute
>Let inf have a road anyway
>Food production through the roof
And yet there are so many of you that are like way more talented and far more autistic than I am. Why do I feel this way feelsbadman

>> No.20541810

>>20540591
It's not a competition dude
In fact it's the opposite. You brought an idea to the table, everyone else helped expand it

>> No.20542657

>>20540591
There's always a more autistic anon. It's possible to be the most talented around, but there will always be a more autistic one.
You're doing great OGsuner.

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>>20541810
Thanks friend. I've just been feeling down a bit recently. IRL shit sucks and this board brings me legit happiness.

>> No.20543655

>>20542702
Same
Family business went tits up from price hike and I'm now looking for a new job

>> No.20545131

>>20542702
>>20543655
I feel you, I don't even care this is technically escapism anymore. Autism about cute and funny anime girls is much better.

Also, while the north pole is being sorted out, I'm thinking of doing some more local climate overview. I know /rose/ and /yeah/ have people here, but what about nijien and /haha/? Technically nijiid is included as well, but I can't bring myself to tell them that their land is subarctic at best...

>> No.20545467

>>20545131 (Me)
Quick thought: have nijiid swap place with either lazulight or /2434/?

>> No.20546114

>>20545467
I feel like that's just moving the problem, no? Some threads are gonna end up with those polar lands, that's not a dealbreaker.

>> No.20546187

>>20545131
You can always go over to the threads and ask, maybe someone will respond.

>> No.20546913

>>20546114
It depends - now that the bottom of the map is 75th parallel instead of 90th, the land where nijiid currently occupies will likely be taiga with a tundra coast (somewhat dependent on how strong the niji continent generate monsoon. It's still not the lushest place, but the taiga forest can and has supported human civilisation. It's just that I feel it is pretty at odds when paired with vtubers who come from the tropics. I think the forest suits Pomu's lore, although things might suck for Finana given that she's apparently some kind of tropical marine animal. Then again, it's not really a major problem unless someone from those threads show up here.

>> No.20547517

>>20546913
Oh, I see where you're going now. Well, mermaids have been in fairly cold waters before, so maybe Finana could deal.

>> No.20547893

>>20547517
Yeah, but she's explicitly living with tropical fish, so I don't know if that translates to her fans as well. Oh well, I guess we can worry about that when people from there comes around.

>> No.20548597

>>20546913
We dont have to follow the chuuba's lore tho
/vt/ is its own thing. It's anons forming a society that revere these beings

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The talk of deadbeat titans from the other day gave me an idea for a bit of local /morig/ fauna. Consider a giant sloth, maybe with extra giant, about African elephant sized. Make it hairless and undergo the same physiological adaptations as deadbeats, such as a less fleshy body, calcification and increased resilience. Similar to the giant sloth, it would fill the niche of sole large omnivore/opportunistic carnivore for the island. Maybe they can be trained to be subpar draft animals (their body structure wouldn't be suited to pulling).
It would also look pretty terrifying, which is nice.

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>>20550114
In a hypothetical case, what would happen if I injected deadbeat spinal fluid into me?

>> No.20552382

>/morig/ island is Paradis
This will be fun

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>>20550850
Deadbeats and deadsloths have their appearance and characteristics from birth, so you wouldn't turn into a beautiful, high-calcium, hard skeleton human overnight. However, given the fact those changes are unique to /morig/, it is likely they are evolutionary adaptations induced by local Mori-infused chuubanite. Spinal fluid would accumulate some of the stuff over a lifetime of living on the island, similar to heavy metal poisoning. So you'd probably get some effects, find your flesh getting a bit harder, denser, maybe get a bit paler.
Just don't overdose on Mori, this is pretty dangerous stuff to the uninitiated.

>> No.20553321

So Deadbeats victory ending is genociding the entire planet as sacrifice to Mori?

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>>20553321
Genociding the entire planet, and then ourselves until I am the Last Deadbeat.

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>>20552382
Who's Marley?

>> No.20559280

>>20555814
/meat/
https://youtu.be/gNwABGACsfY

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https://rentry.org/4745d
I did a general climate and biome overview for /rose/ and /yeah/

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>>20562786
Holy shit, thanks a ton man.

>> No.20568033

>>20562786
Ah, those are always fun. TIL what a krummholz or tuckamore are. Nice work.
>>20521029
Entry for /morig/ fauna lore:
https://rentry.org/ep273

>> No.20570620

>>20540591
We are happy you are here OGsuner, and you open a space for other Risuner to participate. I couldn't care less about not having the canal.
>>20552970
Morig lore is developing in... interesting ways. Still, please don't go to a crusade against /meat/ lol.

t. Gramps.

>> No.20573479

>>20570620
Or do it for the luls

>> No.20573489

>>20530423
I vote A-chan for Empress

>> No.20573928
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>>20573489
>>20521092

>> No.20574170

>>20530423
>>20573489
Rule 1. Official/canon Vtubers and related individuals are not involved/in-power UNLESS they are actually /here/ and engaged in thread activity

>> No.20575832

Bump it up.

>> No.20576403

>>20574170
So all we have to do is bring A-chan to vt?

>> No.20576728
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20576728

>>20521092
>>20475327
Votes for kfp, I haven't seen any objections In my general, but I believe we are only about three people who ever visited here so we don't really have an established rep or anything internally set up to do these desicions
>What percentage of an answer should said answer have for it to take effect, ie >50%, >60%, >70%
Tie this to the Importance of topics ie >50% majority for smaller questions like steam trains, technology, local/regional issues and two thirds (>66.6%) Majority for territorial disputes and decisions of large national/global impact like /who/ /uuu/ takeover
>What happens if no answer passes the threshold? Revote with no Abstain option, vote fails, other suggestion?/What happens in a two-way or three-way tie?
Introduce a preferential voting system, with no abstain option.
>What happens if the majority Abstains/is Undecided?
put them on a list of unresolved questions, with every “”vote cycle” the top 10% on that list reenter the "senate".
>Do we want a rep to be responsible for making posts like this one, where matters are voted on? Y/N
Y
>As a matter of fact, what should the name of the planet be?
Here a Preferential voting system come in handy, personally I like Veetee because it sounds like a name Ayy lmao would come up with.
>Should there be a unified name for the planet across all nations? Y/N
Y since we currently don’t have any separate languages (or do we?)
>Should /fbk/'s and /mion/'s locations be swapped? Y/N
Y however I don’t see why territory sizes should be changed since a massive bakatare nation already exists anyways and changing established borders based on an internal issue seems redundant
>Should /OKFAMS/ be also added on the map, perhaps around the area of /duck/, /mogu+/doog/, /fbk/, /mion/?
>Should /israel/ and [insert another new thread I forgot the name of] be added on the map? Y/N
both N wait until threads have proven themselves to be sustainable for an extended period of time
>Should this be put on hold until the end of the month to check again
Y
>What should happen at the poles?
Depending on the future development any polar landmass should be reserved as independent no-go area that can be assigned to new threads in the future,
Lore: a massive glacier prevents further expeditions north, however a civilization could exist around volcanos or thermal vents
>Should we decide on further parameters, or reduce this to a discussion point and suggest lore when necessary?
suggest when necessary, however in my mind Jannies are not like chuubas spiritual deities but the actual power to create or destroy ie. natural disasters, like hurricanes hitting meat regularly
>If/When a land changes owner, or when a piece of Chuubanite leaves the Area of Influence of its related deity, does the it lose it's powers and qualities (decaying slowly, as per /meat/, still counts as this) or does it keep them but no more of that type of Chuubanite is generated in the area?
Abstain
>Steam trains? Y/N
N
>Vote suggestions can be made by everyone, obviously, however what about requesting to amend proposals that have reached a conclusion? Should amendments to previous proposals be able to be initiated? Y/N
Y
>Should those suggestions for amendment require a set number of reps to be initiated, or can they be initiated by any anon?
for now, any
>Following the above, how many recommendations should an amendment suggestion require before being put to vote?
no static numbers, instead develop a list on witch only a limited number of established votes should be amended per every voting cycle, forward the top 2 from that list to the active voting list
>Should the land acquisition of /who/ over /uuu/ be voided? Y/N
N

>> No.20577096

>>20540591
Don't get full of yourself, this is a group effort.

>> No.20578089

/meat/ died again, so here's the preliminary vote: https://rentry.org/o2qcr

>> No.20578100

>>20521660
hehehe
>>20521256
how long have you fucks known about kikinese?
anyways, here's the PDF of the language i'm making for /pyon/ lol
https://files.catbox.moe/4x72o1.pdf

>> No.20578110

>>20578089
>>20521092

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>>20553321
On the contrary, considering how precious they view the concept of Death, genocide would be considered especially appalling, somehow even slightly moreso than it would be for the average well-adjusted civilization. Conversely, if you read up on the faith of /morig/, you'll find that the ultimate fate of all deadbeats is prophesied to be a fight to the death with each other at some dubious end of the world. That's why martial prowess is so culturally significant. They're content to let the world pass them by, as long as it means one will remain as the final deadbeat come that unknown, fateful day.

>> No.20579932

>>20578089
No wonder I cant find it in the archive
Pruned

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>>20578100
THIS
THIS is the kind of worldbuilding autism I want all of us here to achieve!
/meat/bro are you seeing this?

>> No.20580218

Can we all agree that the poles are inhabited by niggers?

>> No.20581919

bump

>> No.20582665

>>20578100
Is it possible to make a conlang with practically no understanding of other languages?

>> No.20582839
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>>20562786
This is super helpful! Thank you so much for the overview!

>> No.20582873

>>20580218
Now that's just pointlessly dumb
Even if I wanted to make fun of seaniggers

>> No.20582935

>>20562786
Could you do one for /haha/?

>> No.20583021

>>20582665
Well, you need some understanding of how language is formed and how syntax works, but if you just do some weird shit to english and call it a conlang, knowing you're a novice i can give you slack for that. i can also help with it if you want, kikinese is functionally finished i just need to add words

>> No.20583285

>>20583021
I've been interested in making one since before this general got into it's element but I've always been too busy to actually understand it.
Now I think it'd be fun to create certain dialects for some of the generals that I go frequent

>> No.20583448

/clg/bro, I have an idea
You dont have to remove followers of Lumi, Hylo, Yuri from the country
Because chuubas are deities, not political factions.
My idea is that the followers of Hylo, Lumi, Yuri broke from the state doctrine/pantheon. Forming heresies.
Hylo followers became monotheists, Lumi-Yuri formed are diatheists. They no longer acknowledge the other Cyberlive gods as equal.
Inspiration would be the Akhenaten cult of Egypt where a heresy tried to turn the polytheistic kemetic religion into monotheist one, with the other deities demoted to something like saints/angels.
This is also in line with /clg/ harboring minor folk beliefs like Moonjelly and Nuki
Religiously Ayakkoli became decentralized. But threadwise they are still clg

>> No.20583464

>>20578100
holy autism
like jesus bro that is AWESOME
reminds me of the first day at uni all smug top of my class in HS just to be outsmarted by this guy who is on a whole nother playing field

>> No.20583550

>>20583448
Damnit. Sorry for the typos. Im phonepostingd

>> No.20583662

>>20583448
>A chuuba that left their group to go indie is the equivalent of forming a monotheistic cult out of a pantheon
Thats a good compromise

>> No.20583724

>>20583662
It's a good way of explaining the theology of Kson-Coco too!

>> No.20583794

>>20580027
What should /meat/'s language be? The Norse-Nahuatl we've been using for naming locations?

>> No.20583891

>>20583794
I have been using mostly Old Norse and Nahuatl to name things, but they do not intermingle much apart from some place names so far. If we do want to make a singular language (some kind of Norse-Nahuatl creole), then we'll have to work out how they mix.

>> No.20583956

>>20583794
i can cactually help make a /meat/ language because i know some icelandic (practically the exact same as old norse due to cultural isolation) from constant exposure to their music from my norwegian relative. i also know a lot of german, which may help

>> No.20584002

/nasa/'s language is English, but we do have AI translators that attempt to translate key words into English.

>> No.20584571

>>20570620
>Morig lore is developing in... interesting ways. Still, please don't go to a crusade against /meat/ lol.
I don't know where this crusade idea is coming form. I wonder if that guy who was discussing things with you gave you the wrong impression since he wasn't actually involved in the world building thread. Deadbeats are religiously and ideologically opposed to /meat/ as well as having a violent bloody history with them but /morig/ doesn't have the resources to crusade and purge them and I have no clue where this idea is coming from

>> No.20584645

>>20576728
>Should the land acquisition of /who/ over /uuu/ be voided? Y/N
>N
Do you mind if I ask why are you in favour of having allowing the annexation of /uuu/'s land to remain?

>> No.20584680

so when is someone going to make a Europa Universalid 4 mod of this

>> No.20584859

>>20584645
This, the only reason you'd vote in favor of allowing the annexation to stay is because your own country has intentions of annexing another split.

>> No.20584925

>>20584859
I think you're being a little too fast on the accusations there

>> No.20584964

>>20584859
lemme guess, the same anon who assumed the /risu/ story yesterday was a declaration of hostilities towards /meat/ and /infinity/?

>> No.20585054

>>20584925
What other legitimate reason would there be to be in favor of the annexation?

>>20584964
Who?

>> No.20585076

>>20584859
Yo I'm not meaning it imply that or start shit, I just want to ask why they're for keeping the annexation. Give them time to respond before freaking out like a schizo

>> No.20585153

>>20585054
consider being in favor of not voiding what the two threads agreed on
its a subtle difference

>> No.20585192

Do Risunans like tickles? I know rats like tickles but I don't know about squirrels.

>> No.20585211

>>20585153
Except we had a poll saying it should be voided and then some super special one where it was a tie.

>> No.20585225

>>20585192
W-what have you in mind anon...?

>> No.20585266

>>20585211
Did that poll show that /uuu/ wanted it voided?

>> No.20585295

>>20585192
what did he mean by this

>> No.20585326

>>20585192
Hot!

>> No.20585336

>>20585266
Can you prove the a poll among /uuu/ isn't rigged or that the original deal wasn't forged by /who?

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>>20582935
Of course! In fact, the climate between /rose/, /yeah/, and /haha/ is pretty similar and interconnected, which is why I originally asked about it in >>20545131. Because of that, I put /haha/'s part in the same entry file as well: https://rentry.org/4745d
Overall, the region will be fairly cold and dry, with monsoon mitigating it in /rose/ and /yeah/ somewhat. The land will be mostly forested, although I can see a strip of steppe running from northern /yeah/ all the way through northern /haha/ to the coast.
Other than natural vegetation, if people from these countries wish to grow food, the major food crop will likely be rye, oat, barley, and (to a lesser extent) wheat, in addition to the magical crop that is potato. For those with a more nomadic bend, reindeer will be an important source of meat and clothes, although the steppes will likely support horse, sheep, and cattle husbandry as well.

>> No.20585407

>>20585336
no one from /uuu/ contested it then, and hasnt contested it before now

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>>20585192
This post has a frightening aura.

>> No.20585463

>>20585407
Because they aren't currently involved. So your attempt to annex /uuu/ creates the horrible precedent that any inactive or dead split can be annexed.

>> No.20585507

>>20585407
They have no active rep. If they had an active rep and they agreed upon it, I'd accept this argument.

>> No.20585534

>>20585192
The implication...

>> No.20585574

>>20585463
im not /who/ and I'm personally for voiding the agreement. I just dont want to set a precedent of pressuring thread reps to vote one way or the other. If KFP votes for no voiding thats it, end of the conversation. If you are jsut gonna start pressuring reps to vote how you want assuming you arent a part of their thread, whats the point of even having a vote then?

>> No.20585624

>>20585574
If you're going to vote a certain way, I'd like to hear the reasoning why. If they crumble under the slightest bit of scrutiny, they shouldn't have voted that way in the first place.

>> No.20585674

>>20585225
>>20585295
>>20585326
>>20585413
>>20585534
https://youtu.be/N8lCEJo1y5g

>> No.20585728

>>20585674
This brings more questions that answers.

>> No.20585751

>>20585674
can we do this to risu?

>> No.20585948

Guys guys guys
Compromise on the /who/-/uuu/ situation
Remember that the lands themselves are huge!
We just dont see it on a mininalistic map.
Who wanted a longer coast so I suggest this
Reroll the borders back to the previous version
But this time, overlaid with a map of the Earth to give a sense of scale
Who can take the coast they want in the claimed region. But only the coast.
If anything goes inland it will not be accepted
Reminder that irl countries with panhandle coasts only have a small bit of land. Not the entire province.
Croatia's coast
Genoa
Post WWI Polish corridor and Riga

>> No.20585968

>>20585948
Or just revert the deal and say they have an alliance.

>> No.20586069

>>20585624
unless, you know, their thread wanted to vote that way. Thats reason enough

>> No.20586197

If there's one thing we need is a realistic map. With proper jagged coastlines, sound tolls, details that give proper sense of scale
Our map is designed minimalistically that we ignorantly take a chunk the size of Spain believing it's the size of Florida.
Look at /infinity/
Everyone was convinced it's just an island the size of Ireland or Japan.
Until the comparison reveals that they are as big as Germany

>> No.20586199

>>20586069
See
>>20585336

>> No.20586247

>>20586199
We are talking about the kfp vote....

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>>20585674
Wait, that's actually so cute... Now I kind of want to tickle one...

>> No.20586301

>>20584571
No need for such concern, both me (deadbeat) and /meat/ agreed this was the state of things from the start for now.

>> No.20586324

>>20585336
Can you prove that it was?

>> No.20586339

>>20586324
The burden on proof is on you

>> No.20586348

>>20584645
I am kinda wondering if /kfp/ might have meant to say No to the annexation and just misread the question kek.

>> No.20586399

>>20586339
you made the claim that it was rigged, its on you.

>> No.20586442

>>20586399
Ne, you have to prove it was legitimate for it to be accepted. That means no proof that /who/ meddled in it at the bare minimum.

>> No.20586485

>>20586197
The implication from doing so is that we have to redraw borders so everyone isnt a huge chonker of a country with modest land.
Which would be the wrench in the works for some established lore or threads that arent in the mood for retcons.
But I see what your point. Sakuran wanted a small to medium sized country but Neutralfag just haphazardly made them the size of Iberia

>> No.20586592

Nuefag is the cause of all problems
Told you so

>> No.20586613

>>20585624
Ok and thats what I asked them for but everyone here isn't waiting for the rep to respond you're just going in circles trying to figure out or assume what their intentions are
>>20586301
Yes me (deadbeat) was also part of that but at most we have active hostilities and crusade to wipe them out isn't something that was ever brought up. Thats a huge under taking that frankly /morig/ doesn't have the resources to even really think about.
>for now.
??? I don't even see how this could ever change baring large idological changes in either /meat/ or /morig/ and given our threads response tot /meat/'s existence I don't see that ever changing

>> No.20586623

>>20586592
Nuefag saved the thread and the project
i miss nue...

>> No.20586698

>>20586613
>>for now.
I'm just being ominous for the memes. Well, until we get deadbeat cloning technology, orbital lasers and cyborgbeats, then all bets are off. But that'll be a while.

>> No.20586760

Its up to chumbuds at /ggg/ but I think they could benefit from being shark hybrid people. Or at least have a native species of amphibious shark people among regular people. They could have gills that let them breathe underwater. Shark tails and webbed feet are optional. Just a suggestion. I'm not /ggg/.

>> No.20586804

>>20586623
He wanted to get that phase over done quickly
He just gave land away like free candy without thinking of repurcussion.
And when all habitable land are used up, some got the short end and sent to the polar regions.
I appreciate the recent proposal to extend the climate range to help them but that's just relieving a symptom. The root of the problem is that the land is partitioned carelessly

>> No.20586827

>>20586623
He got things moving, but he caused a lot more problems than fixed and now we're at another stand still trying to fix his fuck ups.

>> No.20586850

>>20586827
Better than the zone autism.

>> No.20586881

>>20586485
I'm not surprised. Sakuran is one of the smallest countries here, and consider that you have an Earth-sized map with only 90 threads or so compared to real-world 195 countries.

>> No.20586912

>>20586827
We would still be arguing fruitlessly about placement if nobody did what he did and just stepped in and got working, let's be completely honest.

>> No.20586954

>>20586804
The 15 degree shift was because otherwise countries at the poles would be microstates and completely distorted once projected on a globe, not for climate. The climate changes were a side effect.
Source: was there.

>> No.20586982

>>20586827
What problems did he cause? The /infinity/ island shitstorm fault lies with /infinity/. The polar sea /globe issue lies in the early mapmakers and I thought people knew about it.

>> No.20586996

Alright. The drawfag from /meat/ here
Since no one is autistic enough to do this;
What if I try to retrace the map by hand to make it look realistic with scale, and colour it with biome/climate?
At the same time I can add the Pyon island and some extra additions like small atolls for futureproofing
It will take some time but with this Map 3.0 it would make you anons realized how big the world actually is

>> No.20587002

LET'S DO THE TIME LOOP AGAIN!

>> No.20587079

>>20586996
/meat/head...

>> No.20587080

>>20586996
Cliamtes for the entire map may be hard since we havent done the new cliamte analysis yet, save for a few nations

>> No.20587226

>>20587080
Then it'll just be a basic map with coastlines and various natural features

>> No.20587251

>>20587226
Heightmap would be useful

>> No.20587333

>>20586996
What projection would you use /meat/head? I think I could help you.
t. /3/anon

>> No.20587377

>>20586996
>>20587333
Equirectangular would be useful for climate maps
Not sure for other uses though

>> No.20587483

>>20587251
I dont know how to graphically translate that. Im not that skilled with realistic illustrations. Continental shelves however can be illustrated easily by switching tones for the water
>>20587333
Something accurate and doesnt have a lot of non-euclidean warp.
Is Winkel good enough?
Autagraph would be 99.9% accurate but it's too complicated

>> No.20587624

>>20586982
>The /infinity/ island shitstorm fault lies with /infinity/.
Wrong, nuefag tried to force infinity to move after infinity got the rest of the general to agree with their placement, and he only did to appease his personal autism of keeping Council together.

>The polar sea /globe issue lies in the early mapmakers and I thought people knew about it.
The climates were already drawn out so nuefag knew he was condemning certain countries to Siberia, effectively screwing them over if they wanted to join later.

Both issues you raised were his fault.

>> No.20587776

silver lining is that almost every thread ruined by Nuefag's partitioning are still inactive.
on one hand, we wont have to completely retcon his work. keep the ones that work, retcon the ones that didnt.
sorry you had to save our ass again, /meat/

>> No.20587777

>>20586996
The map needed a rework for a while. It's still somewhat patchworky.
>>20587624
Kronies and historical revisionism, there isn't a better duo.

>> No.20587844

>>20587777
>Anyone who remains objective is a kronie
>New IP

>> No.20587874
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Some infographic about /who/'s standard soldier equipment

I tried to keep it in agreed time frame

What you anons think?

>> No.20587909

>>20587844
>objective

>> No.20587915

This is just a ploy by /meat/ to get a seat on the world council
kidding. gl drawfriend

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>>20584645
Oh jeez I hope I am not responsible for that timeloop because I didn’t put an explanation there.
Ok so I have 2 Perspectives:

In Universe: (mostly head canon, not that important)
/who/ relationship with /kfp/ is semi-fraternal based on interwoven and similar deities.
To be clear, I highly doubt that chickens would go to war to enforce the status quo in a far away country.
However economically and diplomatically at first /kfp/ would give /who/ a sort of Carte Blanche for their actions in /uuu/ territory

Out of universe: (actually what impacted the decision)
This is, as far as I know, the first and, if we solve all of these territorial disputes diplomatically, the only opportunity to develop some kick ass Insurgency lore.
I want to read about supply carriages being stolen, puppet governments installed, rebels being secretly supplied, military camps set ablaze and collaborators being stabbed in cold blood…
Most importantly designating /uuu/ as theoretically “under control” by /who/ but only major cities with the resistance being in control of the rural 70% of the country gives us an easy “out” in case a /uuu/ rep comes back and want’s to do more:
/who/ cannot afford to keep sending military support to the puppet government, the insurgency wins (with or without foreign support?) and a new government is formed

>> No.20587967

>>20587874
based drawfag actually worldbuilding

>> No.20588035

>>20587776
delicious ass...
The pole expansion helped a lot in that regard, since it means most lands previously considered tundra should now be taiga instead. Having local vegetation upgrading from lichen to larch makes those places noticeably more habitable.

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20588036

>>20587874
fucking nice!

>> No.20588094

Assuming that the map's bad scaling is the rooth of all problem (Kronie island's location and size, who's coastline, polar countries) does that mean we'll just have to keep the first climate analysis since this new map will convey geographic habitability much better with an obvious polar ice sheet?

>> No.20588100

>>20587874
>>20521029

>> No.20588142

>>20587483
Winkel is good if you're europe in the middle of the map, but countries on the side like New Zealand of /inf/ get severely distorted, and it varies across the latitude, so it's harder to take into account.
Honestly, all projection of a sphere onto a flat map will fuck you up in some way. Continents look decent, but oceans get shredded with distortion to the point of being useless with Autagraph.
I'd just go with good old cylindrical Mercator, it's what people are used to and at least it can be used to measure distances.
The current map doesn't take polar distortion into account, so I had to deform everything a tad so the shapes intended for the countries were preserved on the globe; conversely, this results in the distortion you'd expect on a Mercator projection. Lemme render out a thing to show you.

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20588185

>>20586804
>some got the short end and sent to the polar regions.
It's only the short end if you suck at adaptation! I personally love the thought of fighting polar bears and thriving in a frigid environment. It's not optimal for you, so you have to become optimal for it!

>> No.20588191

>>20587777
>Kronies and historical revisionism, there isn't a better duo.
Kronies and starting timeloops after everything has been settled ?

>> No.20588198

if i have to toss between a 'neutral third party' and /meat/ with decision making, I'd trust the side thats actually enthusiastic and dedicated to the project

>> No.20588199
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>>20587844
>objective
Webm related.
>new IP
I posted in the thread before idiot, phoneposting exists.
I also like that you didn't deny being a Kronie. It is quite simple, after the mess some of /infinity/ has caused you try to sweep it under a rug first by saying it was just one person and then by saying "it was good, actually". It's so tiresome.

>> No.20588286

>>20588142
>Mercator
That made me wince more than ryonachuubas

>> No.20588299

>>20588198
>saying that the person who kept the project alive when it was basically dying and put a shitton of work into it wasn't enthusiastic or dedicated to the project
Holy shit. Just go back to /infinity/ already, fuck off.

>> No.20588307

>>20588199
>Still pushing his narrative that nuefag wasn't a terrible leader
>Anyone who isn't against everything infinity does must be a kronie
>if you don't deny it, you're a kronie
>If you do deny it, you're a kronie
It's oh so tiresome...

>> No.20588332

>>20588094
I dont quite understand what you mean

>> No.20588355

>>20588286
There's a reason Mercator is the most common projection. It is, in fact, the most useful projection from a practical standpoint.

>> No.20588363

>>20588307
Which thread do you represent, then? Prove me wrong.

>> No.20588367

>>20587931
Don't blame yourself. Its just the schizo who immediately wanted to start shit. I do like the ideas you're bringing but the problem with that is we'd have to write lore for /uuu/ unless if a rep shows up they're happy to write about a resistance

>> No.20588464

>>20587931
I wouldn't mind this IF an active /uuu/ rep decided this BEACUSE they want to write resistance lore. You shouldn't force a newcomer rep who can have a different idea what to do with their country be tasked with writing lengthy stories about insurgency which shouldn't even be required in the first place.

>> No.20588465

>>20588363
I'm not a rep, but I'ma part of /who/ thank you very much.
Now let's see you do the same thing before I hand wave you as a schizo., who do you rep?

>> No.20588477

>>20588363
Inb4 the schizo wastelands

>> No.20588521

>>20588307
>Anyone who isn't against everything infinity does must be a kronie
Way to completely flag yourself my dude

>> No.20588540

>>20588465
/vsj+/, but I'm not a rep.

>> No.20588597

Break it up, schizofags! I dont care who was the actual guilty party anymore! But we have an anon trying to help so we better wait for his results.

>> No.20588627

>>20588540
That wasn't so hard, Nuefag is not coming back. Now get back to work on your lore like we are.

>> No.20588668

KRONII AKBAR!
*bombs youre UN meeting*

>> No.20588678

>>20588464
>>20588367
the idea is that /who/ needs to accept that they don't entirely control /uuu/ and write resistance lore themselves, once a rep shows up and says that he d´want's to do something himself /uuu/ rebels just win and the national integrety is restored

>> No.20588688

>>20588627
There's aplenty of inactive threads near us, so I'm sure a quick visit in their thread will be enough to get some new land and protectorates. It's all fair game, after all.

>> No.20588721
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20588721

/vtwbg/ and it's consequences have been disastrous for /vt/
its a joke

>> No.20588746

>>20588688
Go for it, assuming you can keep the land.

>> No.20588765

>>20588678
If drawfriend finished the new map and it proved the scale hypothesis, /who/ can keep the coasts and just give the inlands back to /uuu/

>> No.20588798

>>20588765
How about not keeping any of it since it sets a bad precedent, as was said again and again and again?

>> No.20588824

>>20588540
You /vsj+/fag are always complaining.

>> No.20588861
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20588861

God I forget that some of you are fucking children

>> No.20588876

As heated as this place is, at least we're not arguing over twitch thot drama baits like the rest of this board

>> No.20588910

>>20588861
/uoh/?

>> No.20588945

>>20588876
But we traded arguing over 2D anime women for arguing over 2D borders on a map
Not exactly an equivalent exchange

>> No.20588973
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20588973

>>20588876
Given some of the people here, don't tempt fate.

>> No.20589124

>>20528169
Yeah. I feel if we just go full fantasy it can give us a lot of more room to work with. Like obviously we could come up with some rules so there isn't ONE nation better than others. But as it stands the whole "Oh chuubanite only works under x conditions, and even then can be replaced by a practical tool" kind of gimps potential story telling. We are already worshiping VTubers as god's, with most of them being some grand monster type. Might as well just go all in.

>> No.20589164
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20589164

>>20587483
Here, Mercator vs equirectangular projections. I think either of those would be good cuz we can do distance calcs and the latitudes and longitudes at parallel.
Which one do you prefer?

>> No.20589281

It was a /meat/head who proposed a well thought out chuubanite system.
It was a /meat/head who wrote the first few greentexts that kickstarted this whole thing.
It was a /meat/head who wrote the most in-depth religious lore.
And now it's their turn to stop the endless border yabs.

>> No.20589370
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20589370

>>20589124
Very early after the introduction of chuubanite as a concept to these threads, someone likened it to Ragnite from the Valkyria series, which is a highly sought after resource with several practical applications such as medicine and powering everyday machines, while also being the tool of a mythological race of fantasy super-soldiers and their weapons. I liked that comparison and have been operating with that idea as a basis for how I've explored the application of chuubanite thus far.

>> No.20589373

>>20589281
>/meat/ cults are real all along

>> No.20589397

>>20589281
>>20589373
join us...

>> No.20589472
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20589472

>>20589164
The first one is optimal. Anything that wont make Greenland the size of Africa is good in my books
>>20589281
What having your thread killed by meidos all the time do to a mf

>> No.20589481

>>20589281
the old chuubanite proposal was not made by a meathead i havent read the new one though

>> No.20589520

>>20589481
I think he meant the one about fleshgrafting and regeneration.
That one was written before the first true proposal

>> No.20589556

>>20589281
The first one is false. It was Climateanon, who did the long Chuubanite system, wasn't it? I recognize that typing style.

>> No.20589581

>>20589281
anon who wrote the greentext about /meat/+ /ahoy/ here, am actually an architect

>> No.20589599

>>20589556
You would be correct

>> No.20590062
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20590062

I have some projections about the future of Map 3.0
Because it will have proper scaling, it means we would have:
>A. Microstates & City-States
If any minor thread (appears once a couple months) want to have a place on the map, they can have a small bit of land without internationally affecting existing status-quo of their neighbours.
Additionally, if any existing thread want to found city-states/microstates for lore reasons, then they would have enough room pull off a Vatican/Malta/Lesotho
>B. More complex borders
With enough room to draw, and physical features like coasts, inlets, islands, rivers, lakes that are more stands out more, lets just say that borders will get more autistic.
Some potential borders include:
-exclaves and enclaves
-panhandles
-autistic borders like the Gambia just squeezing through a single valley or Transnistria hiding in-between two nations
-colonial/planned/non-natural straight borders
I have high hopes this will increase the creativeness of border designs ten folds.

>> No.20590133

>>20590062
Oh fuck my grammar. I need sleep

>> No.20590434

>>20590062
Consider a /tsugu/ city-state.

>> No.20590507

>>20590062
sounds dope!

>> No.20590542
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20590542

Do you see any borders from here? What was borders given us?

>> No.20590544

>>20590062
So does this mean the entire world is going to be shrank? Or do we still get Germany sized infinity?

>> No.20590620

>>20590544
If they wanna stay that way sure
But they'll now have a lot of room to squeeze in more cities and city sized gulags for their /ouro/ separatist lore

>> No.20590676
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20590676

>>20590434
/meat/ bros...
Maybe that's what F could be?

>> No.20590722

>>20590676
Not a /meat/head, just a /nasfaqg/ merchant who thinks Tsugu is pretty cute and ignores the doujins.

>> No.20590803
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20590803

>>20590542
<< THAT'S WHAT V2 IS FOR >>

>> No.20590893

>>20590722
Fun fact, all Tsoog abuse doujins were made by /meat/chuubas
>AwA drew Tsugu guro
>Mai-chan made the most popular Tsugu abuse/guro doujins
>Minori cosplayed Tsugu ryona for a ryona gravure

>> No.20590982
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20590982

>>20590542
>remove borders
>megacorporations move in
Sounds like a win for commerce around the world!

>> No.20591185
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20591185

>>20590062
Alright, I'm revving up GProjector, let's do this.
First, pic related is a normal equirectangular projection.
Then, here is what the map looks like projected on a sphere (it's neat how the Earth map is traced on it, handy for size comparison.
https://files.catbox.moe/y3gvfw.jpg
Then, the infamous Mercator Projection
https://files.catbox.moe/gbso0u.jpg
Now, the popular side character of map projections, winkel-tripel
https://files.catbox.moe/r46d2b.jpg
And now some wacky stuff
The bulbous Wagner IX
https://files.catbox.moe/cr5mi0.jpg
The heartful Bonne
https://files.catbox.moe/wdb3fc.jpg
And finally the actually... Kinda good. I like this one. Arden-Close
https://files.catbox.moe/05rps4.jpg

This is kinda fun. I can make versions with the Vitubia borders as well.

>> No.20591285

>>20591185
Also ignore the position and size of /inf/ here, I see you coming clocks.

>> No.20591310

>>20576728
/pyon/ has their own language

>> No.20591370

>>20590982
Was this a comic made in response to their opposition to the northern trade passage?
It' fucking hilarious.

>> No.20591602

>>20591370
>their
Nasfaqg has had no official stance on the straits

>> No.20591608

>>20591310
kikinese has a name for the planet, Veeti. it's just pronounced VT but spelled in our alphabet. I'll ad it to the dictionary

>> No.20591691

>>20591370
I'm the /nasfaqg/ rep, I made an edit to a comic about the Dutch to satirize the strait situation, as well as claims of free market "restricted choice" and taxes collected by gov't free-tax-hating society.

>> No.20591746

>>20591691
The solution is simple
Kill the merchant and take his fruit, thus breaking the cycle of corruption.

>> No.20591756

>>20591691
>nasfaqg shitposting about themselves

>> No.20591762
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20591762

>>20591185
Got it. Already made an equirectangular projection guideline.
Here's comparison with the first world map

>> No.20591922

>>20591602
yeah because the only thing they care about is mingling with femboys in their luxurious homes

>> No.20592003

>>20591756
Having a little distance to oneself never hurt.
Here's the original: https://files.catbox.moe/0fj9zj.png it mostly parodies how loaded the question is.

>>20591602
There's no official stance but three /nasfaqg/ traders had no issue with it. I don't have an issue with it, either.

>> No.20592128
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20592128

/wst/ is requesting they be allowed to move to where /pyon/ was since it would allow them to neighbor splits who were apart of /wst/ Specifically.

>/nina/ and /gorls/
split off from /wvt/ when the gorls' fanbases realized they could maintain their own generals. there should be former territories for /koopa/ and /africat/ too, which more or less got merged into /gorls/
>/lig/
seperated from /wvt/ after finding that the discussion and linking of vtubers was too biased against larger indies. should be in a position where they're close enough to annex /nina/ but not quite large enough to pull it off
>/clg/
has a vtuber from /wvt/ who decided to go corpo. shouldn't be quite connected from /wvt/ but it should be pretty easy to travel from /wvt/ to /clg/ by boat

Shuffling around countries would be hard task, but just switching locations should be relatively easy given /pyon/ is getting their own island and their original space is unoccupied.

>> No.20592192
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20592192

>>20591762
Gambare. Here is the equirectangular with borders as well.

>> No.20592211
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20592211

>>20591922
the tako traders are pretty cute

>> No.20592271
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20592271

Here's a very rough proof of concept

>> No.20592327

>>20592271
amazing

>> No.20592419
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20592419

>>20592211
I disagree and you all know why

>> No.20592631

>>20592128
Anchoring
>>20521029
>>20521092

>> No.20592916
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20592916

>>20592271
Cleanup with proper bitmapping
This is what it should look like

>> No.20593053

>>20588465
Good, now we know that /who/fags are just as schizo as /Infinity/fags.
It's not surprising given that both of your threads are full of selfish assholes who try to steal territory from other threads.

>> No.20593248
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20593248

Add some physical details and BAM

>> No.20593306
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20593306

>>20593248
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

>> No.20593351

>>20593248
If this is a bother, feel free to ignore, but would it be possible to draw the rivers on a different layer, and have the "land" layer just be solid under the rivers?
they really mess up the heighmap otherwise.

>> No.20593378

>>20593248
>>20593351
needless to say, looks awesome and I look forward to seeing more.

>> No.20593379

>>20593248
looking good!
can you make some normed height scaling? like color = x elevation

>> No.20593426
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20593426

>he managed to make the world bigger
>proving the map scale hypothesis
/meat/...

>> No.20593429
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20593429

>>20593248
Very cool. It never really bothered me, but it would always distract me how /inf/ looked pretty different to everyone else on the world map, so this will be a welcome change. While we're on the topic of maps, I'd like to once again ask about the status of adjusting /morig/'s heightmap to include Mt. Mori and other assorted volcanoes, to make sure it wasn't forgotten.

>> No.20593431

>>20593053
Maybe you should learn to play the game instead of always crying when smarter people outplay you.

>> No.20593590

>>20593431
Anon, this "game" isn't a competition for supremacy. It's a collaborative creative project. That's why /morig/ and /meat/ can have a long and bloody history of raids and hunts and deaths at sea in-setting while they are friendly in the thread.

>> No.20593626

>20593431
>play
>game
>smarter
>outplay
Not even giving you a (You) until your IQ rises above room temperature levels.

>> No.20593655

>>20593431
Oh, so you're also that retarded Schizo who thinks that this is a game instead of a collaborative writing project.

>> No.20593659

>>20593590
you're biting bait

>> No.20593662

>>20593626
You would think a vtuber fan would understand kayfabe...

>> No.20593703
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20593703

>>20593590
>NOOOO! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!
Kneel before Mumei's Legion.

>> No.20593752

>>20593703
Why is this adorable and terrifying at the same time...

>> No.20593778
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20593778

>>20521029

(1/2)

The Deadbeats have a deep history of fragmentation. The current existence of /morig/ as a nation is remarkable when you consider its history fraught with infighting between different groups, religious corruption and elitism, defectors, blasphemous scholars who would vandalize sacred libraries, depraved scripture revisionists, and those who would doubt the goddess’ love, on top of facing near-constant invasion over the course of several generations from those seeking to destroy the goddess for perceived transgressions against the pantheon. Adherence to the faith is the sole unifying factor for many Deadbeats and what’s owed to the current stability of the nation. The differentiation in thoughts and attitudes that continue to exist among the people to this day as well as their personal edicts towards individualistic self-discipline contribute to the system of government in /morig/ being one that is incredibly loosely-defined.

The Council of Threes (so named due to its members all simultaneously and curiously proclaiming themselves as the Third Strongest Deadbeat; notably, the seat and title of Strongest Deadbeat exists, but is absent and reserved for the so-called unborn child of the goddess), technically exists as a pseudo-parliamentary body, but its members do not represent political parties or pointed interests, thus leading to relatively little actual governing to be done. Seldom is the Council invoked to enact executive decisions regarding internal affairs, as civil disputes are often self-contained, though they do unite to handle diplomacy with other nations and send delegates to Unity Island in /hlgg/. The people, meanwhile, function comfortably with what laws and regulations they do have. Merchants enjoy their independent ventures and the people are mostly content.

This laissez-faire approach to governance extends to the military matters of the island as well in that, technically, there is no formal standing military. There is only independent warriors tirelessly improving themselves, occasionally called upon by the Council to attend to certain militaristic matters. Due to the sheer scope and demand for manpower for the task, the closest thing to an organized military in /morig/ would be its navy. /morig/ naval vessels tend not to be large, but being built similarly to the vessels of the independent merchants, they are plentiful in number, famously swift, and crewed by highly experienced sailors. Forming a bulwark of the South Holo Sea, /morig/ honors longstanding agreements to protect itself and its neighbors from barbarians and pirates. Skirmishes at sea are commonplace and campaigns are long, though considering the naval force is essentially made entirely of volunteers, they dedicate themselves to their work heartily. The Council is capable of mobilizing the country to war, but the reality is that /morig/ is by and large uninterested in conquest; defense of the homeland, meanwhile, is something already deeply entrenched in the ideology of the nation.

>> No.20593793
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20593793

Don't bite bait please

>> No.20593825
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20593825

>>20521029
>>20593778

(2/2)

Staging an invasion of /morig/ is generally considered to be incredibly ill-advised without multiple contingency plans or sheer tactical brilliance, as the island is prepared to weaponize itself at a moment’s notice, all its inhabitants prepared to fight to the last to defend the realm of their goddess. Musketeers and imposing, heavily armored warriors with their trademark onyx-colored javelins fiercely defend the shores, determined to drive countless more black stakes into the sand to decorate the enduring graveyards. Beyond the beaches, invaders find entire port towns and marketplaces eerily abandoned and cold, their visibility hindered by streets and alleyways blanketed in a shield of odd smoke. Without precaution, a soldier who remains too long and breathes too deep will start to find his mind fading; at which point, a peddler, only yesterday laughing cheerfully while selling his wares, emerges unnoticed from behind his stall, silently brandishing a blade and donned in his Death Mask, seeking to take down as many as he can. Civilians fight with improvised weapons and lob perfume bottles filled with the debilitating smoke onto unsuspecting ranks of infantry from second-story windows. Troubadours chime their ominous bells in the distance to serve as diversions, rallies, and signals, furthermore unnerving enemies with their cacophony in otherwise dreadful silence. More armored warriors with their heavy weapons stalk the city streets. The entire country becomes covered in fog, engaged in brutal guerilla warfare.

Deep within, the temple stronghold of the Goddess Faithful at the outskirts of the Underworld doubles as the final bastion against those who seek to invade the mountain sanctuary and home of the goddess. The shrine maidens who reside there, whose duties are as groundskeepers of the temple complex and the sanctuary, also act as the final line of defense to those who seek to desecrate /morig/’s holy grounds. They are just as formidable as the highest echelon of warriors, their skills tailored to stealth and assassination. They will fight and kill until there are none left or they die on the temple grounds, in the deep forest under the cherry trees, or traversing up the mountain path. Whatever remains will have to brave the challenge at the summit.

>> No.20593855
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20593855

>moshi moshi
>are zey making progress in ze thread?
>hai, my master
>start ze drama

>> No.20593868
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20593868

>>20521029
>>20593825

On Death Masks

Death Masks are special adornments used by the people of /morig/. Foreign visitors note them as odd and a little unsettling, but they are considered vitally important to the people of the island. Every man, woman, and child possesses a Death Mask, and the implicit obligation reinforced by generations of teaching is to carry them on their person at all times. Simply put, they are masks made from a native ceramic material worn to cover the whole face which traditionally and predominantly are made to resemble human skulls, with few notable exceptions. They may be freely personalized, though the most wild designs are typically only adorned by ronins outside of the country. Traditionalist artisans on the island tend to categorize them into three classes: those worn by civilians and merchants, comprising the majority of the population, which tend to be simpler in design; those worn by the warriors, which are designed to be more intimidating; and those of the shrine maidens, the most visually striking as they are instead made to resemble foxes.

The function of the Death Mask is for it to be worn during mortal combat. Infused into its design are trace amounts of native chuubanite, enough for the wearer to be instilled with a deep sense of calm without inhibiting cognitive function (for a time). For a practiced combatant, this can be utilized to enhance reflexes, giving the wearer a slight edge in martial prowess provided they can overcome their opponent before the encroaching mental fog, lending to the reputation of /morig/ warriors are being particularly fearsome and wandering Deadbeat ronins as highly valuable and competent mercenaries. The mask also grants protection from the external influence of Mori-affinity chuubanite, such as that which is endemic to the Underworld, or the gaseous weapons employed by Deadbeats.

Prolonged exposure to Mori-affinity chuubanite via the Death Mask still has the drawback of disorienting the wearer. The longer it is worn, the greater the weight on the mind. It requires extensive discipline and training to wear one for extended periods of time without feeling the side-effects. Conversely, some extremist artisans have a different approach to crafting Death Masks: by using a more intense psychoactive refinement of chuubanite, wearing the mask can induce a state of frenzy, transforming warriors into terrifying berserkers. The physical drawbacks of these masks are much more severe, and the benefits, though frighteningly effective, are short-lived. There’s a local legend of a famous, possibly apocryphal outlaw driven mad by never removing his mask, who fights ferociously on horseback, subduing his pursuers with chains.

>> No.20593919

>>20593825
>>20593778
Don't you guys have a big ass skeleton hidden somewhere as a sort of ultimate weapon?

>> No.20593951
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20593951

>>20593919
I wasn't there for that discussion, but it sounds cool

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20594145

>>20593951
Ah, see >>20568033 . Bit of (super)fauna lore. I love those three entries, especially the bits about the navy and the Death Masks. Nice work!

>> No.20594175
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20594175

Gift for the deadbeats

>> No.20594292

>>20594175
I just realized that /risu/ looks like mexico and they grow magic nuts in there

>> No.20594367

>>20594175
Looks great! Hydrography autism: You can't have a river run across an island.

>> No.20594583
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20594583

>>20594175
But anon, this is clearly what /morig/ island really looks like

>> No.20594803
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20594803

>>20594292
With proper details it really put things in a new perspective
Im already stunned by the scale

>> No.20595010

>>20594803
can you make /risu/ look more like the /risu/ map that already exists

>> No.20595093

>>20594175
>>20594803
>>20593351 (Me)
Thank you, this'll help a lot! Otherwise the rivers end up being considered to be sea-level and that really introduces a lot of mess to the heightmap. /inf/ really gets torn apart by this lol.

>> No.20595364
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20595364

Theory; I tried adding some spratly-esque island chains and an atoll
Yeah
The strait already feels huge
>>20595010
Alright

>> No.20595481

>>20593825
So, both /meat/ and /morig/ use asymmetric warfare and psychoactive drugs and even gaseous weapons in combat and are highly durable, and fierce warriors. That’s pretty cool, given your rivalry.

>> No.20595658

>>20595364
based

>> No.20595748

>>20595364
Yeah, looks awesome, definitely sells the scale of morigascar much better.

>> No.20595939

Whelp. A power outage delayed my number crunching. I'll post next thread.

>> No.20595961

>>20595364
Towa...

>> No.20596322

>Mori loves lemurs
>Morig received madagascar
Uhhh.....

>> No.20596378
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20596378

>>20596322
Don't ask questions.

>> No.20596388

>>20596322
They want to move it, move it.

>> No.20596466

>>20593752
It's what makes them the biggest threat.

>> No.20596518

>>20595481
Chemical weapons are on the table? I got some unconventional ideas I'd put forward.

>> No.20596665

>>20596518
As long as they're tech-appropriate and possibly chuubanite-related, go for it! that means no nanomachines

>> No.20596743

>>20596518
Depends on how the weapons are made. Mustard gas grenade launchers are out of the question. Hurling infected dead bodies via catapaults have been a thing since the middle ages.

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>>20586253
>>20585751
>>20585192
Wtf?

>> No.20598000

>>20595481
Also, /meat/ has a giant skeleton chuuba so they have a lot in common.

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>>20596665
>Making the mother of all collaborative writing projects here jack. Can't fret over lore scrap.

>> No.20598267

New bread doko?

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>>20598000
STANDING HERE, I REALIZE

>> No.20599205

>>20599124
Maybe they descend from the same origin tree but somewhere along the road both civilizations separated for religious differences.

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