Hey rosebuds, was it worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

>Delay the stream 50 minutes
>"Hey guys I need to delay the cooking stream, it will be worth it though!"
>Join the stream 1h in
>Cacophony of voices in D major
D stands for dick btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
>Having all of your solo streams raided by male twitch faggots
Do nijikeks really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Do nijiniggers really?

[Anonymous No.]

Rosebuds can't stop falling for my trap cards

[Anonymous No.]

I assume NijiEN has stopped doing solo streams at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Imagine being a nijinigger kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
Mysta is solo streaming rn. He is quite entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706547
That was a fuckup on her part.
>have 2 streams on that day, cooking and a collab
>put them close to each other
>do 0 prep for the cooking stream
>delay it for almost 1h because you didn't do any prep work despite having an entire day for it
>the collab starts
>IT'S COLLAB NOW ENJOY
she fucked up big time considering her comments are still disabled and had to close her maros. cucks will pretend it's youtube bug but even pomu reenabled the comments later on during the offcollab stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
nah their solo streams just aren't getting clipped for some reason, so obviously (You) won't know that 50% of their streams are still solo.

[Anonymous No.]

niji women are irrelevant by themselves, there's no point to even start a solo stream without males.

[Anonymous No.]

Its funny how everytime i hear of new situations/drama male shittubers or streamers are involved, seems like the whole 13=50% situation. We all know the problem but we blame "toxic idol culture" instead of the actual assailants

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
>It was the clippers that did it!!!
This new cope is pathetic even by niji standards

[Anonymous No.]

I despise what this branch has become.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
>50%
Wow. That's so low. Might as well abandom solo streams for real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
I dropped them a while ago because it was really like there were no more solo streams. Every time I clicked on a stream, there's someone else there. It's self-verified. Also:
>50% of their streams are still solo
That's not a good state of affairs. I cannot think of any other vtuber/streamer that's just constantly on VC or some shit all the time, no matter how big they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
>50%
>5 x 10 = 50

Lol maximum low effort their nijipajeets

[Anonymous No.]

Makes sense from a business perspective. The females are their main business, yet they're now massively falling behind the males. By forcing collabs and turning their female streamers into parasites they're hoping to bridge the gap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707244
This + most people watch her for her solo content. Go to /rose/ and ask for streams recommendations, 90% of them will be her solo playthroughs and cooking stream (not anymore I guess kek). The assumption that you need to like collabs just because you like chuba hosting them is retarded. For instance I like Elajjaz on Twitch and don't give a shit about his collabs with Trizze or Distortion, always tune out despite all 3 of them being males. Same with Brex, he sometimes collabs with females, don't care about them, don't join. Collabs change the entire fucking dynamic and some people aren't into that, they want the chuba <>chat interraction to be the focal point.

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>>21707343
>The females are their main business
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707343
Surely you are mistaken, this is Manjisanji we are talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
>50% of their streams are solo
Maybe they're advertised like that. Before I dropped NijiEN entirely, it was more common than not for there to be "surprise guests" pop in for solo streams. This is what the branch is now - a package deal. If you don't want to watch all of them, especially the males, then you can fuck off. You WILL have other members invade your comfy solo stream and you WILL like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707343
>The females are their main business
I'm not normally one to complain about EOPs, but come on anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707461
>you WILL like it
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707445
>>21707371
>>21707483
NijiEN were 100% female until recently. If not 100% of their business is their main business, then I don't know what is. Fuck off retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707528
Mmm naruhodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
nijinigger really made them wait 1 hour huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
My bitchy Chinese wife does mainly solo streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Imagine having to wait for 1 hour and then be greeted by vshoujo instead of a cooking stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707738
>greeted by vshoujo
Would modern nijiEN fans even care? I suspect there is large overlap in their fanbases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707912
That's tragic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707912
I don't think there's really a discernable difference in their fanbases anymore, except that NijiEN has the fujo market absolutely cornered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
>>21707912
>I assume
>I suspect

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707912
When Ame streamed on twitch her viewers had an pretty insane overlap with vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707234
Please abandon your existence while we're at it anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707310
SEAniggers really are a different breed of retarded. Must be all the garbage from behind the Jollibees they eat.

[Anonymous No.]

If some rando I don't know and don't like invades a stream, I'm turning it off.
If you collab with people I don't like, I won't watch.
If I start seeing streams I don't like on the regular, I will unsubscribe, then remove from recommends.
I won't sign up for memberships. Unconditional payment for making any content, even content you won't like or participate in, is a foolish waste of money. Donate in streams you like or in free chats between.

Be the master of the content you want to see and stop getting involved in content you don't want to see. If somebody else wants to, let them. Those that shovel out nothing but trash will soon find themselves in charge of a landfill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
So you're saying 50% of "solo" streams are just male collabs? The absolute state of nijiniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
No, if it's a boring ass debuff stream it's solo. Any good/interesting stream is now a collab.

Gee wonder why, it's almost like they're all leeching the fuck off each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708263
This. The popular western belief that only the streamer and their needs matter, while the audience must shut up and get what they're given, is totally bizarre. If current chuubas choose to no longer cater to what a significant proportion of the paying audience wants, they will simply be replaced by chuubas that do. That's how the market works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708086
Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.]

You have to be a complete normalfag or a woman to want to watch this constant male/female collab shit with vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708912
Unfortunately the western audience seems to not follow that, despite the fact we should. We have this weird "idol culture bad" attitude that makes most people unable to drop their oshi even if she was fucking dudes on stream. "But its not cucking" blah blah blah, same old excuses. The west is lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709068
I despise the west sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708966
Ironmouse streamed at the same time as Ame and they had a lot of viewer overlap

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709068
In reality idol culture is the true chad audience, they have standards and don't put up with cuckshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708912
The only problem I see with this is
>Yab happens
>Usual paypig fans leave
>Greys stay. This at least keeps their view numbers from dropping too low
>Income starts declining
>They revert back to doing their old shit
>New paypigs arrive
>Cycle repeats

It the end its meaningless. Just gotta find that right autistic indie.

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>>21708966
Check it yourself. The stats are there. Ironmouse is at #1 with a viewer overlap probability of 46%. Don't know why anyone would expect something different though. If you're a vtuber and stream on twitch you'll have overlap with vshojo. Nobody outside of /vt/ cares about these pathetic tribal wars.

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>>21707111
>50% of your content is about another person
that's not a good thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709068
I think they say that shit to virtue signal, and they may even think that they believe it. But despite their protestations, they still all watch the female chuubas from the semi-idol agency and not the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708870
>Blitz out wave after wave
>Manageable for the first 2 because it's only a pair of 3-person waves, so 2 months is enough space to get to know each wave decently.
>Ethyria is a wave of 4, meaning we need more time to get to know each member and their chemistry with the existing members. Nina controversy, mostly localized to /vt/ as it was, didn't help.
>Luxiem drops before we can get to know Ethyria completely. As a male wave, there is resistance, as this is the first time one of the major corpos has fielded EN Males.
>Noctyx ACCELERATEs out the door before we've even fully acclimated to Ethyria, let alone Luxiem. Naturally, they are ignored. It doesn't help that they don't seem to bring anything new to the table to help them stand out.
>Niji management, seeing that the latest wave is underperforming, forces everyone to watch them by mandating collabs and solo streams in Discord calls for "impromptu" collabs to occur.
I fucking hate this shit. It's almost as if shotgunning waves in rapid fire will fuck you up or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709068
>idol culture bad
White people are incapable of not being culture vultures for just 1 minute. Nobody was complaining about idol culture until it started to leak to the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709238
>Like both Holos and Nijis
>major corpos are tiring me out with how much bullshit is involved.
That's it. I'm becoming a /lig/ger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709360
Not sure if bait or just a darkie. Either way kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>21709360
>Nobody was complaining about idol culture until it started to leak to the west.
Were you born yesterday or something? Idol culture has been getting put on blast by even the Elevens themselves for literal decades.
No (You) from me. Skim a wiki or something before you open your mouth again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
>Open stream
>Homo collab
I've given up on NijiEN. Shame though, because I like Pomu, Rosemi, Selen and Millie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709068
>>21709238
It's definitely the truth that fans will leave a vtuber if they break the "code," i.e. mention a boyfriend or even just talk or interact with men too often, act like a bitch, don't respect their fans. It's all happened before, the people who complain about "idol culture" are just a vocal minority.
The difference is that Niji's core audience seems to be changing from "vtuber fans" and becoming "streamer fans" who watch them just for entertainment rather than the CGDCT, and female Gachis who treat the girls as accessories to Luxiem.

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>>21709507
Hes not wrong tho, we enjoy things bring them to the west, then for some reason(virture signaling cucks), change it to fit our own fucked up standards because we think we know better. And slowly leach out everything that made it enjoyable in the first place, Its unfortunate and ruins alot of good industries

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709428
90% of /lig/ is turbo whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709883
I think you're confusing /lig/ with /vsj+/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706821
I assume NijiEN females have stopped doing solo streams at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709428
HoloEN is (at least right now) still pretty damn similar to what it's been while NijiEN completely transformed in the past 3 months. Watching the Holo April Fool's utter kino and then being auto-dumped from that into some clusterfuck NijiEN collab with a bunch of ecelebs, male nijis and vshojos in it? Night and day hardly even describes it, it's more like another planet in feel. An inferior vasly shittier planet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710054
A good amount of indies are way more whorish than even Veibae.

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>>21710066
that's false, Elira for instance does long jrpg streams etc. She also gave a heads up that her minecraft stream will be open for people to join. You know, some of them actually know how to stream and communicate with their community. Rosemi is just a failure if it comes to organizational skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708912
You have no idea how I hate the "if you are having fun that is what matters!" comment from grayniggers.
They are entertainers and I should be entertained. I don't go to a doctor to help him feel better, I don't go to a concert and give applauses even if the concert is shit. Why is vtubing different? They aren't my personal friends, and I shouldn't be giving unconditional support for their content if I'm not liking it.
God I hate this cuck mentality so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709317
I think you people are putting too much of the blame on management. Obviously they'll push for collabs often, but the girls themselves have also said that they do these surprise guest collabs because they genuinely think people will enjoy it.
What will be interesting is how this impacts them in the long term, because I see a lot of people saying they're sick of the surprise collabs, and I see a lot of people saying they love them because more people=more content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710054
Because most of /lig/ is the + part from /vsj+/

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710332
i'm very proud of my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>gets westernized
>women involved become whores
Why expect more from Jew media brainwashing

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710698
So true, bestie

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707111
Reread what you just type and convince us how is 50% solo good nijinigger
The collabfest is what made me dropped all nijien unless selen/rosemi plays something i want to watch, its not even a nijisanji thing too because nijiJP isn't like this outside of tourneys/major events

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>>21707528
Anon's right. Also, Nijisanji is trying to move into shit like the 'streamer house' kind of crosspollination of their fanbases. So slamming their male streamers into female stream content - without doing any prep to make sure that they have any chemistry whatsoever - is just going to keep happening until someone puts their foot down.
The issue is that none of the males - or females, really - seems to have any fucking clue how to collaborate with others. Let alone in a big group, where you need to keep everyone in mind AND the chat.

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>>21708263
membership point seems flawed, some chuubas need a steady and predictable income so they can dedicate more time to chuuba stuff without risking their financial security. mostly applies to those who produce infrequent yet high quality content.

t. likes 95+% of content produced by certain talents who cant afford to go full time

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710221
Myth was unwatchable in the first few months after Council launched if you didn't like the new girls because they were also really heavy on the impromptu collabs, especially in Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

The schizo unicorn fanbase continues to harass the girls. You niggers get pissy when called out and try to claim you're justified in throwing these piss fits because, "muh solo collabs" but you're just harassing the girls now because they're collabing with their coworkers and not keeping them at an autistic arms length like Holo girls and Stars. It's fine to be upset at the lack of solo collabs, but you niggers wouldn't be complaining as much if these collabs featured only non Nina girls. You're just a bunch of hypocrites and aren't giving any constructive criticism.

>>21709067
Nigga I've been watching vtubers since 2016. You schizo no male GFE fags are the invasive fanbase that took over the hobby, fuck off. I remember the old /wsg/ threads back in the day where everyone would share their favorite chuubas and nobody flipped their shit at the nijimales. Hell, nobody really even lost their minds at holostars on the /jp/ threads until j_god showed up and shat up the threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>Bearable
Ike, Sonny, Shu

>Not watching
Alban, Covid, Luca, Mysta, Uki, yugo

Other than the three, everyone else is either vying hard to impress the girls or are just outright unbearable to listen to

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710842
someone actually went full autismo and did count her collabs etc >>21646923 It seems the biggest issue with her is 1. going full generic bitch by spamming the same type of games and collabs 2. allowing people to crash her solo content, happened 3 times within one month. For comparison, her January streams were praised for creativity and variety despite having a shitton of collabs, some of them organized by her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710961
The actual dumbest thing about this strategy is that yes the Niji males are very successful - with Asian teen and office lady fujos. Those women simply were absent altogether for what is still the majority of NijiEN's existence, the first three waves, whose audience was basically Western / SEA males. Some guy in Germany or the US does not have a lot in common with a mainland Chinese viewer named Vox's Cumfart Slave giving SCs reading "please strangle me daddy" - that lady is not really going to care about Finana or whatever unless she has to put up with her being near Vox by force. You're just gonna cannibalize audiences at best if you try to actually force them to coexist and force-feed them into each other instead of let the separate specialties focus on their intended demographics and crowds 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711296
>criticism is harassment
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711296
>nobody flipped their shit at the nijimales
Because JP males are 100 times better than fujo pandering luxiem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711387
Yeah, now that it's been put into perspective her latest content is disappointingly absent of anything as creative as Rosemi Night Live or even, if I'm remembering correctly, ASMR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711296
That autistic arms length as you call it has kept hololive mostly drama free(rushia aside), and holostars do their own thing. A few of the holo girls even do male colabs, and people dont really care. Because their are others to watch if you dont like male fags. With niji its impossible to escape because of the forced male colab shit and becomes annoying

[Anonymous No.]

Males and all aside, if you can't handle and be entertaining with solo streams then you fail as a streamer. Hell, Vshojo can handle solo streams just fine pretty regularly even if they do somewhat regular collabs with others. Say what you want about pink cat but even she can entertain an audience alone if she needs to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711396
Yeah, I don't agree that it'll work because they're doing a terrible job of it. Niji is in the same stage a lot of the streamer houses enter when they try to get their streamer house shenanigans going - they have talent, but nobody who has good ideas for CONTENT. And even worse, their talent clearly doesn't interact off-stream, otherwise they wouldn't have such awkward moments all the time.
You can absolutely do this kind of thing with cross-contaminating your fanbases instead of cannibalizing them, but you need to have people all be on board with it and understand. The men constantly shouting over the girls in collabs has to stop. Not just because its not funny, but because you're fucking over your coworkers by not allowing them to display their brand during a fucking collab.
Seriously, has nobody involved in this shit worked in ANY performance industry? You're a fucking ensemble cast. Just because one of you is the Center doesn't make you the Main Character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711771
anon... twitch brainlets is not that high of a hurdle

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711750
her last asmr was on feb 19th, she privated it because of background noise of cars etc. nothing in march afaik.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709202
And that "46%" amounted to like 300 people out of almost 10k, retard. The vast majority was just people watching her like they already did on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711790
Why dont you join NijiEN if you're so great?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711934
Because I have a real job that pays better and has less hours then being a mid-tier streamer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711839
You say that but nobody clips solo niji streams because there's nothing worth clipping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21712083
This. Even if you think a chuuba is entertaining on their own, clippers will chase engagement, and interactions are big engagement. There's only so many times you can clip "X reacts to DUMB SHIT CHAT SAYS?!?!" before it becomes homogenized.
Clippers have the ability to control the narrative a bit, but most of the time they'll just feed on the easy engagement. Somebody would need to break ranks (and have it pay off) before you'd see a change in the clipping metagame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711896
And the data shows that a huge chunk of that vast majority already watching her on Youtube also watches Ironmouse on Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711296
>Posting in veetee = harassing the girls
Some of nijien are definitely /here/ but thats still such a retarded take nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>21713674
she also has a full army of discordniggers and beta orbiters from her past incarnation defending her in every thread so i'd say it evens out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21713674
It's also just a really bad faith argument when people DID wonder why Rosemi was showing up to the Canada Girls collab.
Major difference there is that we know who the fuck Rosemi is, and she has actual chemistry with the others from previous collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>sensible thread criticizing NijiEN's faults not devolving into mindless tribalfagging

Did I accidentally cross into another timeline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21714213
and yet cucks in /rose/ call it a bait thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Sorry, mate, she barely can move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710979
Council aren't men so it's fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>21712259
in terms of clippability gura and ironmouse are the reigning EN queens and for good reason. The nijis have a lot of eyes on them but solo clips are low which says a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709360
Japanese hate idol culture too especially when it invades things that aren't idols.
Koebutas are a known thing in otaku communities where you have people who try to apply the idolfag treatment to seiyuus at expense of just hiring good seiyuus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21712083
Rumao a literal clip watcher
I agree the focus on, at least Rosemi's schedule, for collabs disinterests me, but saying Hololive EN is a better alternative is laughable. That April Fool's collab was mediocre, these girls don't feel like that good of friends. Like beyond the scuff and it not being offline, they just never reach the height of the collabs I like in NijiEN. A better alternative are Holo/Niji JP branches or indies.
>>21714213
>sensible
Sure, holobrony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709815
That's not really entirely true.
Its more about expectations, plenty of vtubers have boyfriends/girlfriends/marriages.
Gwelu is married, Tamaki (the trap) got married, plenty of indies have relationships, Vei is dating some dude. etc.

The difference is they don't hide it and its not a major part of their identity. Its just dumb especially when they try to "hide it" and do all these hoop jumping talking about "roommates" or their friend/dad/brother/whatever when its obviously just a boyfriend. So when they jump through 1000 hoops to pretend they're still single, and it comes out they're not. Obviously its going to hit them harder than someone who just has his baby come to him on stream and call him daddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21715382
Vei dating Soda is part of her identity. A huge one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21715528
only here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707195
Men need to stop stream-raping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21714967
i bet you also watch TT

[Anonymous No.]

>he complains
>every day
>every hour
>about the same 3 people as everyone else
>with the same talking points as everyone else
>with the same vague complains as everyone else
>with the same muddied details as everyone else
>but he definitely watches them
>he's definitely not a falseflagging SEAtard

[Anonymous No.]

>comments disabled

any screen caps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716110

they are waiting for you in your hugbox >>21707098

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly starting to feel bad for the Nijifans that arent massive homos or chink women. Spend 1 min doing this to show how I think nijiEN is starting to feel compared to the TVshow that is hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>anon has to roll the dice for if a solo stream becomes a surprise collab or not
Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711296
>harass
I just make long essay posts on /vt/ about all the complaints I have in as descriptive of a way as possible in hopes they see it. I'm not sending them death threats on twitter or anything.

Maybe if they had marshmallows open I would send them a harsh but fair critique over it, but they don't. So where can I complain?
Twitter is where I dump my fanart, and I don't want it filled with my autistic sperging. Youtube is where I comment on chats and I don't want to get black listed because some girl got upset i said collabs suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716110
>Thinks this is seadog hours
Discordnigger at least lurk more before trying to fit in

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716346
This is the primary use of /vt/; I don’t fault you at all, and the anon you’re replying to is likely used to hugbox mentality. Airing your grievances /here/ is 100,000% better than through Twitter, Youtube, or any other method. It’s the least likely avenue for harassment since it’s just your opinion thrown at your fellow anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
More like cock-o-phony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716346
Pomu banned some dude for making a joke during her MGS stream that made fun of her gaming skills, nothing serious just "Pomura (her alter ego) would've killed this boss way faster". or something like that. Thankfully it was only 24h for him but imagine wanting to engage in banter with the streamer you follow/support for months and get shot because muh menhera rage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711934
>have a real career
>have had vocal issues since i was young making me extremely quite
>I'm not going to pander to fujos
>I'm also just not a very good streamer and I'm aware how bad my content is so I don't even bother trying to make it big
take your pick

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716283
So I cant watch NijiEn if i'm not chink and gay? What is this line of thinking

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716949
Hurr durr I'll pick the 7th option

[Anonymous No.]

>>21717103
Yeah , you can if your a cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716023
I just couldn't give a shit about voice actors. And its silly especially in games like idolmaster or love live or any song based anime where the seiyuu needs to appeal to idolfags instead of just being a good singer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21717250
>cuck
Am i cucking my gf if I watch nijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21714213
Don't ask questions, just consume product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Being a nijikek is truly suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>21717509
like what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716921
Streamers in general are weirdly thin-skinned far too often. There's only a few who don't really seem to care what their chat says.
This is probably not helped by mods being unpaid and doing it for free randoms who are likely white knights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21717659
Ironically the biggest complaints in /nijiEN/ is that the males all of mods made up of underage girls that constantly chat and ban people for stupid reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

They really are the English branch of Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716921
Pomu got spoiled and backseated to hell and back every single MGS stream. I don't blame her at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21719589
The back seat complaint is always the silliest one to me.
You don't have to listen to people sperging about what weapon or item to use since chat is usually full of shit. But allowing them to discuss it just helps keep them engaged. I hate playing this game of
>you can say this about the game
>but if you mention that she doesn't have the right upgrade material its "backseating"

[Anonymous No.]

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NIJIKEKS

[Anonymous No.]

>Expecting all you can eat clams
>Get sausage fest instead
T-thanks...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
Brapfish does a lot of solo streams and doesn’t interact with males too much…but she’s also really fucking boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>21717340
You don't have a girlfriend, don't be delusional, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21720858
Yeah but her mods are trash and ruin the streams the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716921
Pomu should take some lessons from Shigure Ui about how to handle chat and banter

[Anonymous No.]

>>21720948
Yes her mods are very annoying and spam in chat, but she also needs to pick up better games and steaming content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21707195
>we blame "toxic idol culture"
>we

[Anonymous No.]

WHO CARES. IF YOU HATE COLLABS GO WATCH HOLOLIVE. A TALENT DOES LIKE 1 A MONTH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716921
Disingenuous. She timed him out as a joke, and it was funny. The only one thin-skinned here is you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722570
>haha isn't it so funny that i banned you
>god i'm laughing so hard at not being able to chat for the rest of the stream, so hilarious
>this joke where she pretends to ban her viewers for no reason is so funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709317
>Nina controversy
What controversy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21720131
Backseating becomes a problem when the backseaters get really angry and show it, or even devolve into spam. And with a game full of twists like MGS there are fags discussing spoilers in chat, that ruins the experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722794
I think no spoilers is fair, but becoming spergs is mostly unrelated to backseating. they get banned for being spergs not for backseating at that point.
saying no backseating just covers everything far too vaguely, especially when they actively get pissed off at things that aren't sperging, just basic stuff like "hey dude your vit is really low and that's why your getting tilted right now"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722718
It's literally a 10minute timeout anon. And it's returning banter with banter. If you don't like it just go back to whatever family-friendly chuuba you used to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722570
Holy copium

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722922
You know how much chuubas I can fap to in 10 whole minutes. Like 2.

[Anonymous No.]

WHORES. ALL OF THEM WHORES. EVEN ROSEMI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716921
She didn't ban anyone, she timed him out. And the idiot sent it as a superchat too knowing full well she was getting frustrated with the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

holobabs cope thread #3745677236823468

[Anonymous No.]

>>21721370
>Pomu should take some lessons from Shigure Ui
she did, it was useful in the hotel

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723268
>give money with joking playful banter since she won't even look at your posts otherwise
>get timed out
oof.
so this is what pomucucks deal with these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723324
I kneel, Jun channel.

[Anonymous No.]

tf is happening here

[Anonymous No.]

>>21715382
fauna's neighbors....

[Anonymous No.]

>>21720131
>>21722794
she literally had people superchatting her twists and spoilers

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Rosemi not being prepared for her own streams has become the norm rather than the exceptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711296
Most of what gets posted on /vt/ literally never makes it back to the girls. No one is getting harassed, you fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
The women have surrendered their own timeslots to the guys, they did it to themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708058
The mark of a newfag is overusing those memes in and out of context. Guess which one is it this time faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21716949
Same boat here
>full time job
>my voice is shit and wouldnt work for 99% of any character i could play
>would only pander to shotacons
>i would probably only play old ass JRPGs, strategy games and the like

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723647
People who don't watch her pretending to be offended at something they don't care

[Anonymous No.]

I went into Rosemi expecting a chill Pizza making stream and she was in a call with 6 people, Rosemi not saying anything, just listening to Vshojo thots and the Niji boys talking. I love Rosemi and I dont wanna properly anti, but she needs to not have such shitty streams. I'm not even an "idol fan" or whatever, like I dont care that Rosemi talks to boys and that shes not a proper idol-type girl or whatever. She quit her job to become a dedicated streamer but streams like this are gonna make her lose fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723994
You went very late them bro, it doesn't seem like you were that excited for the stream if you didn't ever bothered to show up when it actually started

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710336
That's just parasocial cuckolding kicking into effect, some of those people genuinely think the streamer knows or cares about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21709360
conquered niggerfaggots should learn to keep their mouth shut

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723978
I think the anon asked for this thread, not for the board

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Shes gotten lazy after quitting her job, and has been putting less and less effort. Retards who never watched seem think she collabs every other stream but thats not really true considering >>21711387. The issue with her is she stop giving a fuck and got complacent. Her content just isnt what it used to be, im still waiting on her to finish everhood yet in that timeframe she started and dropped an enormous amount of games

[Anonymous No.]

>>21711355
What are you even watching at this point? I can't seem to find a single stream where Luca "POOOOG" Kaneshiro is either a part of or has invaded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722570
> being banned from chatting is a """joke""" to nijiniggers
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724063
The problem is that any streamer who genuinely knows and understands their audience either has nobody in their chat, or so many that their chat is functionally noise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723978
I only watch her on occasion, usually for her creative streams.
But after hearing rosebuds shill her cooking streams, it was extremely disappointing when I went to that last one to see a big collab. This being right after Pomu fucking up her off-collab and a long series of streams I was just tired with.

The reason there's been so much shitposting this last week or 2 isn't because any 1 particular thing is new, its that its all been building up and each time there's a new stick thrown on the bundle it feels even heavier. Its not just rosemi fucking up her stream, its the constant collabs, its pomu fucking up her collab, its random impromtu collabs popping up all the time, its random streamers entering streams of your favorites and either joining voice call or taking their focus away from chat with their own comments which take priority, and on top of that its the incompetent streams and talents just straight up shitting on the people who dare complain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21713532
Show us the data. Source it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722794
why not set chat to members only at that point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723450
>give money with joking playful banter since she won't even look at your posts otherwise
Ok so you literally never watched Pomu. Pomu, Rosemi, Petra and Elira read a bunch of my comments even when I was just a greyfag.
Also, Pomu handles the chat very well. There were times when the chat was going crazy with horny posting and no one got banned or timed out. She would just jokingly say stuff like "Omg what is it with you guys today?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710336
They're also not forced to cater to you and only you specifically, if the content doesn't appeal to you anymore then leave, there's a whole other company for you to watch you hate collabs that may or may not involve people of the opposite gender, if this supposed backlash is as big as the LARPers like to pretend it is then it will impact their numbers and they'll graduate, less livers you hate in the world
And don't give me the bullshit constructive criticism excuse, daily whiny threads isn't criticism, it's just shitposting and if the people making them were actual fans that's even worse, move the fucking on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724280
Stop lying.
Rosemi hates greynames more than anybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724160
The shitposting makes no sense if the reason is just being disappointed with the content, you don't call for a meltdown because you checked a stream and it wasn't for you, you could make threads about literally anyone then because guess what, not everyone is going to enjoy anything, we're not even seeing a tangible impact on their careers to push doomposting either, it's all just tiresome garbage for people to vomit shit and laugh while they reply to themselves acting offended
There's only so many times you can pretend to have been surprised and was disappointed because of something that started 3 months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724280
You mean to tell me that nijisanji girls enjoy being coomed over?
truly shocking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
Nijifags who are against the males constantly barging in streams, why do you still put up with this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724111
This thread is just another one in a sea of garbage

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that the impromptu collabs of NijiEN were universally praised on this board until Luxiem arrived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710336
Because with vtubers what's being sold is illusion of companionship first and foremost. There is no expectation of companionship at the concert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724481
The people who are upset are the people who actually were with them from the beginning and actually cared where it was going.

They are upset because they were invested in it and don't want to leave, but every step of the way it feels like we're being told to fuck off for wanting the old content. This week was just a jammed pack week of incompetence and what feels like almost intentionally offensive streams. So of course the people who are invested and have been slowly getting fed up finally get pushed over the edge when you jam pack it all in one week. And 4chan is the safest place to voice your complaints without sending offensive messages to the talents in public since they have their marshmallows closed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724610
No anon but it's totally not because of the males please don't call me a unicorn even if I'm throwing the word cuck left and right as if they were all my girlfriends

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724507
because the 70% of streams where this doesnt happen are great, 30% is still low enough that it can be somewhat ignored except like in op pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724610
>We
I never liked them. I’m at a stream to watch said streamer, not streamer and annoying coworker.

[Anonymous No.]

Makes you wonder what that latest company wide meeting was about that ended in them all PR-posting how much they love NijiEn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724763
new wave? auditions ended for nijien recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724664
>are the people who actually were with them from the beginning
Sure they are
I guess it's not for you anymore, tough luck, move on, making daily threads exaggerating every single thing isn't going to change how they do things

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724610
It was praised when it was basically just lazulight and there were only 3 talents, most of which everyone cared for equally.
Even then they were doing some things that bothered me but it was bearable.

Men are noteworthy because there is a clear divide between people who want them vs people who want the girls. So I do not get anything out of Fulgar invading Rosemi's chat, because I give no shits about Fulgar. But while I was slightly annoyed with Finana, I didn't mind her joining Pomu in minecraft.
The overlap of fans between the males and the girls, as opposed to finana vs pomu, is far far less.

And people were getting pissed off at Nina since she debuted for doing the same thing. But people always conveniently forget that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724763
English song permissions

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724763
It could be either that they all came together to support someone or just some random joke that spilled over to twitter, some of them were also being secretive about future projects so it could be about that too

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724800
Christ a fucking live how have they a;ready started on a new gen? The latest are underperforming and their models are all basic as fuck by comparison, do they think they can just overcome by throwing them at the wall like a dartboard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724366
>Tells me to stop lying
>Lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724917
That's literally nijinigger strategy from day one. Pick up whatever holo declined to hire and throw it at the wall, hoping some will stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724833
Speak for yourself unicorn, male or not i prefer people stay out of Rosemi’s solo content no matter who it was. Early impromptu collabs were always shit since lazulight have no chemistry with eachother now that there actual people with chemistry in nijien to compare to.

[Anonymous No.]

Some anon mentioned a Nina controversy earlier that happened on /vt/, what was that about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706821
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724693
I personally wouldn't call 30% ignorable since it's already pretty close to being half of their streams but fair enough. Though, this seems to be happening more often. How many more times will you let this shit pass till you finally have had enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724123
I've found solace in Elira's streams. I haven't gone a single fucking pomu stream where luca doesn't say an NPC line in the chat for the past week

[Anonymous No.]

everything will go back to normal eventually bros. its just like elira said nothing much will change with the male waves. i-i-its just a phase bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21715380
t. Sensitive nipplenigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723450
I want to get timed out by Pomu, sounds hot as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725193
Did Elira actually say that? She kinda lied kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725193
I don't remember her saying that but nothing much has actually changed on her channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710638
Your wife is very impressive you must be very proud

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724660
>illusion of companionship
The state of NijiEN right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724139
SEAniggers can't tell the difference between time out and a ban? really? Learn to English more maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724123
Luca genuinely deserves to have a bullet put through his skull for the sake of increasing the general IQ of humankind

[Anonymous No.]

>STILL seething about this

holy shit. i'm not even going to tell you to kill yourself because I'm sure the thought crosses your mind more than once a day. I'm just going to tell you to get off /vt/ and try to at least do SOMETHING with your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724610
I don’t even like collabs as a whole, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21722756
She made fun of Reimu's sick dog and implied it was going to die

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725312
I’m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724917
>he doesn't know
New waves every three months like clockwork. That's the Niji model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725186
I don’t think ill ever fully drop Rosemi, but if her solo streams keep getting disrupted I would stop watching most of her content and only watch occasionally when something is interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725191
anon, Elira has collabed with Luca like three times in the last week

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725724
that anon used pomu as reference for the amount of collabs, in comparison elira barely collabs despite the actual truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725693
I just assumed that at some point they would take a break to let shit settle down, and especially after last gen give it some time so they can actually pay for good models this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725724
She had the Animillie collab and the Minecraft collab this week? 1 of them Luca was a part of. Unless you are specifically going to other peoples streams and then seeking out her then complaining about collabing with people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725878
Minecraft, Minecraft, and ToS-turned-CrabGame

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725855
That was everyones assumptions after Obsydia since that was the last of the original 6 recruited. But here we are today already on the way to a 6th wave, assuming settling down will happen is foolish at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725973
Minecraft was the only one that happened this week? The other Minecraft is from Thursday the week before and got reuploaded. The Town of Salem collab is from Friday the week before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725304
She's one of the few who seems to know how to do collabs and solo streams without fucking up either one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725150
>i'm an unashamed threadwatcher please spoonfeed me!

[Anonymous No.]

>streams used to be chuubas interacting with chat
>streams now feel like friends hanging out and I'm on the outside looking in

I miss the good old days of vtubing bros. How do I get this feeling back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726420
Become the vtuber, then everyone in chat is your friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21725840
Elira collabs just as much or more than Pomu though?
Like I checked their streams since the big friday the 13th collab they were both part of that was exactly onee month ago, and Elira has 7 collabs and Pomu has 6 collabs on their channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706417
>2022
>niji EN

if you're not some faggot or a fujo why even bother at this point? Giving a fuck about those bitches is so 2021 move on, they are playthings for the chink-magnets now and it's what they stay as forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21708263
Based, I agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724610
>on this board
not just this board, this was the case over on leddit and even on Youtube comments.
I was cleaning out my PC and I found this 8 month old image I made during the first months of Lazulight.
Even back then nijiniggers were contrarian faggots who could never just enjoy their own streams, they HAD to show everyone how they were "better" because THEIR chuubas weren't hololive.

Karma's a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Man I just want to watch a solo stream from the chuuba I like without some retard I didn't care about showing up, is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726947
Evidently, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21706743
I have tried to watch Elira 4 times over the past few months after dropping her shortly after Luxiem debut. All 4 times the first voice I heard was not Elira's, despite none of the streams being scheduled as collabs.
I assume this is good content if you actually like all of Nijisanji, but I find 95% of them unwatchable so collabs are just a debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>collabs bad!!!!
>collabs good!!!

man shut the fuck up, if you were a true fan of your oshi you would support her regardless of what kind of content she puts out. whether it's solos collabs or whatever the fuck you should be grateful that she even streams unlike some peoples oshi who streams once every few weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726947
You're clearly in love with them, and are also an incel!!!!!!!1

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726947
According to the fujos here, yes. And having that opinion means you are a unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727231
That is bullshit though. The only time Elira has done a collab on her channel that wasn't explicitly advertised as one before hand since Lazulight only days is Minecraft last week. All her solo streams are solo streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726593
selen is as good as ever, i just skip collabs with nijien faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727314
>you should support her no matter what
no.
she was my oshi because she made the content i wanted, not because she was the chosen one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727314
This better be bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726871
>watch vtubers
>wants them to act like 3DPD normalfags
i fucking hate ironic weebs so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724139
its a very 'twitch' way of thinking

[Anonymous No.]

>>21724610
You mean the fans of a female vtuber like collabs with other female vtubers more than collabs with dudes pandering to Chinese fujos? What a shock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726947
>builds her brand as a good solo streamer
>you don't mind the collabs but they aren't priority so avoiding them isn't a problem, sometimes you even tune in if she happens to collab with someone you like
>the branch grows, teh number of people you don't care about outside of your oshi grows too
>she collabs more
>you are disappointed because now you are forced to skip more content with people you don't care about, regardless if they are male or female
>they start intruding her solo content too making it even worse
>"U-unicorn, you hate males!"
every
fucking
time

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727424
NTA but this. I watch streamers for the content, not some fake virtual girlfriend experience. I don’t even understand how you can get satisfaction from that.

[Anonymous No.]

It’s odd the path NijiEN has gone down. I get that they are effectively a network of friends, but even streamers with storied careers have generally abundant solo content. If you start to see an eclipse of “house” activity, i.e. like Twitch units always collabing in-house with each other, it seems to be a bit forced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727381
Actually I lied 4 months ago she had Pomu join an endurance stream for a while where she was just clicking the Pomu button but that is like 30 minutes in an 8hr long zatsudan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727314
>true fan

[Anonymous No.]

30 minutes for what? to call uki for a surprise off collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727314
How do you think someone becomes someone else's oshi, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727716
Trying to hook ironic weebs into parasocial relationships, maybe? I don't know, though. The issue with that sort of content is that when its more then two or three people, chat can't really participate, right? Even real streamer houses rarely have collabs that are more then maybe 3 people in a room, outside of filmed, pre-edited content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727716
I don't know even the streamers people complain about though like Pomu or whatever if you actually count up the streams on her channel its 70% solo to 30% collabs rounding. So there is tons of solo content there if you want to skip collabs. They probably have more solo content than the majority of HoloEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727314
Yeah support this *cums inside ur oshi*

[Anonymous No.]

Are the fags complaining about how they only do collabs even watching them? Like even Pomu who is shitposted about only doing collabs nowadays still do more solostreams? 16 solo vs 6 collabs in the last month, and then a few solo membership streams on top of that.
And if even Pomu do mostly solo, then most NijiENs still have way way more solo streams that collabs right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21727643
>Almost a year of having collabs, the frequency keeps increasing
>Barely no one complaining
>Suddenly males are involved
>Daily meltdown threads
>"D-don't call me a unicorn tho, it's not about m*les"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728268
>Are the fags complaining about how they only do collabs even watching them?
HAHAHA no

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728268
Why would you think catalogtards watch streams? They shitpost all day on whoever

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728268
For Rosemi who this thread is complaining about I get 14 solo and 5 collabs even counting streams that were solo for the last month ignoring membership solo too so it seems like most of them are around 70% solo streams to me. But it seems like this board has become dedicated to pushing the narrative that Solo streams don't exist in NijiEN for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728268
They don't watch them, no matter how much they want to pretend they do to support their shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

Wosemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728435
nice strawman when the argument literally mentions the branch growing and the pool of chubas I don't give a shit about collabing with her increasing. I FUCKING HATED Nina invading Rosemi's Escape Simulator stream, is she from Luxiem retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728524
For Rosemi at least this all started because she completely fucked up her planned cooking stream by not prepping and then basically abandoned it to do the collab. It's not like she has a job, she could have easily just done the cooking stream earlier and had 0 issues

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728268
Here was pomu's schedule last week.
>off-collab (also crashed by a man, in a hotel room because lmao)
>29 (guerilla damage control twitter space)
>phasmo collab
>2 solo streams
>minecraft collab
3 (4 if you include the twitter space) collabs.
2 solos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728435
>misses the point
>"barely no one"
work on your reading comprehension and language skills, ESL fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728654
Minecraft wasn't a collab. Phasmophobia wasn't even on her channel. So unless you go around specifically seeking out collabs despite supposedly hating them you will have seen one collab from her this week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728654
>guerilla damage control twitter space
>don't get what you want
>complain
>get what you want
>complain
No wonder she's not doing offcollabs anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728435
Obvious bait is obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728792
Wait phasmophobia was on her channel I was getting confused because the other NijiEN girls that took part in it didn't stream theirs but still. It's not a typical week to begin with and its still more solo streams than collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728654
>Pomu still getting flak for the botched offcollab when it was proven that Finana was responsible for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728654
She did more collabs when she traveled to do an off-collab? Wow!
Now look at the previous week:
Sunday - Solo
Monday - Solo
Tuesday - Collab but she didn't stream her POV
Wednesday - This was changed to MGS1 Pt2, Solo
Thursday - Collab
Friday - Collab
Saturday - This was changed to a variety stream, Solo
4 solo, 2 streamed collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728792
minecraft is a collab 9/10 times so if i'm wrong my bad, 40% instead of 60%, i'm not going to bother watching it because i'm tired of her after the earlier week b.s.
>>21728823
>fuck it up in the worst way feasibly possible
>w-why didn't you enjoy the damage control the day after we realized we fucked up?
once you piss in the pool you can't just expect people to still enjoy swimming in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729067
ah so you just hold pointless grudges like a woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729052
You're still saying this as if 33% streams isn't a big deal.
1/3 streams being a collab is a massive chunk of streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729104
pointing out a fuckup and obvious damage control to retards who refuse to aknowledge it =/= a grude

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729104
these are people fighting for your money and attention. you owe them literally nothing and they owe you everything. if they fuck up and shit the bed horribly you are allowed to say fuck it. this is not "holding a grudge" it's dropping a shitty untrustworthy product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729137
But you can just skip them can't you? What's the problem? You still get tons of content from the other streams. For example if you just watched Pomu's solo streams this week and ignored the collabs that roughly 20hrs of streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21728268
>only collabs
Not “only”; increasingly participating in more of them. I don’t mind the concept of them doing whatever they want to. They are free to do as many collabs as can be desired. My quandary is still centered around why they seem to be acting more like OfflineTV nowadays than they previously did. Given, the cursed collab did include Scarra, so the writing was on the wall already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729137
Oh so now any collab at all is bad and it totally justifies whining about not having solo streams to watch anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729137
Last I checked, 33% isn't anywhere close to majority

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729137
When NijiEN debuted I expected them to go JP route where they have chubas that do their own thing, some of them would be collab focused, others do solo streams. My oshi were Lulu (pretty much solo streamer) and Lize (solo/collab with her best friends etc). Seeing NijiEN turning into "WE'RE ALL FRIENDS AND NEED TO COLLAB AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK" got tiresome fast for someone with my expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729449
A lot of NijiEN does more solo streaming in a week than Lize does in a month though

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN's soul is gone now, it was there during the Lazusydia days and it died on Ethyria's debut. NijiEN is a soulless husk of what it once was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729449
NijiEN streams much more often than most NijiJP, so even if they do 2 collabs a week, there are still more solo streams than most NijiJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729595
yea but it's all quality stuff and I don't have to worry about Nina or fucking Luca or some other trash from last 3 waves I don't care about invading the stream. Can't say that about NijiEn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729345
Its a huge chunk of her content.
If I'm already ignoring half (or 33%) of her content because they're collabs, she's probably overlapping with other girls on other days so if i prefer an enna stream over pomu, that's more streams i won't watch.
and then the 1 stream i do catch, she's just parroting inside jokes as if i care about luca screaming I LOOOOOOOOOVEEEEE DICK

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729329
you can drop them without reminding everyone about it constantly but i guess constant attention seeking is another womanlike behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>21710054
Sadly no. Twitch meta is to be as whorish as possible. Vshojo is pretty tame because they have a big audience and dont need to whore out

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729670
So wait, you complain about too many collabs, but won't make time to watch solo VODs because of overlap??? Holy shit you really are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21723324
>topic about nijiEN females becoming irrelevant.
>no NijiEN females on the screenshot.

Bravo

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729753
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>21729752
>just waste all your time watching vods where you can't even interact with her
no.
i'm just going to drop her instead like i have.

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>>21727918
>They probably have more solo content than the majority of HoloEN.
Kek. Great joke anon. HoloEN are one of most anti-collab chuubas that exists. They barely collab even with each other. Honestly it's funny that nijiniggers once were so proud of number of collabs, how they all "big happy family" and now they say shit like this.

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>>21722756
Something to do with her PL. There were some clips recirculating around her being kind of a "bitch" to someone in chat for not subbing to her Twitch and talking on some SJW group stream. They're nothingburgers and you hardly see any semblance of it as Nina. You can check the archives, shortly after Ethyria debuted for more.

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>>21729752
I've been watching Twitch streams since like 2014 and don't remember watching a single vod. For some people it's be there or be square. Only chuba fags made watching vod where you can't even interract with the streamer meta.

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>>21729829
So now it's not because of too many collabs, but because you don't have time? Why do you keep shifting excuses?

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>>21729687
so a place where we're just talking about recent issues with the streamers is the wrong place to talk about said issues? I suggest you take up the womanlike behaviour of attempting suicide.

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>>21729848
The % of solo-collab stream may be wrong, but HoloEN don't stream at all so anon is correct just because of that

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>>21729995
are you actually brain damaged or something?

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>>21729991
>Twitch
>VODs
well no shit sherlock

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>>21730126
they work the same way youtube vods do fag. They just don't have comments section only fags use anyways.

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>>21711296
Pretending to be in the scene early. Cute.

Now hang yourself faggot

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>"NijiEN collabs way too much!"
>they actually stream more solo hours than most others in their company or adjacent company
>"th-that doesn't count!"
Meanwhile Rosemi has started a 100% solo stream and nobody mentioned it so far. Yet another catalog thread full of threadwatchers.

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>>21730072
>>I don't watch her because too many collabs
>only 33% are collabs, you can just skip them
>>I don't watch the non-collabs because they overlap with others
>then just watch the vods
>>I don't watch the vods because I don't have time

So it really isn't because of too many collabs, but because you don't have time

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>>21729848
Let me check that. Pomu in the last week in solo streams has 3:47 minecraft, 8:59 mgs, 3:57 zatsudan, 2:18 variety in the last 17 days thats 19hrs 1 minute of solo streams.

All content included, solos and collabs only two HoloEN members have more hours than Pomu ignoring her collabs and only counting solo streams.

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>>21730218
No one wants to watch Silent Hill 4

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>>21729995
>You can literally only have one reason to not want to do a thing or not like a thing, anything more than that is you just making shit up
Actually braindead

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>>21730348
Sounds more like you keep on trying to find excuse after excuse to explain your actions (or rather, inactions)

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/ffa2u5uJzvQ
also Kiara is streaming

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>>21729421
You must not live in a Democratic country

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>>21730285
>17 days
thats obviously supposed to say 7

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>>21730061
Would need to be much higher solo % then. HoloEN lack of streaming doesn't change that they collab even less than that. If I was to give a number it would likely to be around 10% for collabs for HoloEN.

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>>21730538
>turn on stream
>she's talking about twerking
literally nijiEN-lite

[Anonymous No.]

Do rosebud really

[Anonymous No.]

>>21719589
Play games, to an audience, who can chat.
>expecting anyone to not talk about the game or get frustrated when said streamer plays like she got a stroke

Just dont fucking stream at that point

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>>21730734
Percentages are a bad measure in this case, hours are a better metric to use.
If someone does two 10-hour solo streams, and one 2-hour collab, that's 20 hours of solo content and 2 hours of collabs (10x more solo), but still 33% of streams are collabs.

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>>21730285
Holofags have time to shitpost because their oshis never stream

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>>21730893
Dragoon, there was a Selen Luca 1 on 1 earlier, you cant say shit

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>>21730912
Its really not hard to chat about a game without spoiling it I think you guys are just autistic

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>>21730922
>Hours
>Better metric
Kek

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>>21730285
Doing the same with Elira, one of the members actually known for streaming a lot, gives 32hrs 8 minutes of solo content in the last 7 days.

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>>21725422
Like you?

Autist spiting on other autist. Cute

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>>21730285
>using only Pomu’s stream hours vs all of HoloEN’s stream times
I’m curious how the rest of NijiEN’s solo/collab hours stack up to Pomu’s.

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>>21731038
Where did you even read the word "spoiler" in what i wrote?

You ARE autistic.

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>>21731631
I was using her because the reply chain was about her.

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>>21731663
you were responding to a post about spoilers with >expecting people to not talk about the game
dont even try with that faggot shit

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>>21730972
Should be obvious. The gura general once again turned into a oorn dump lol.

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>>21731696
Fair enough. I am a still curious, however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21726563
i'm going to take this advice and groom my 2viewers

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>>21730988
Luca is the best among them niji males tho

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>>21734585
>Luca
>the best
kek, twitchtard detected. have fun listening to him scream POOOOG for 5 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21734733
Ok voxcum enjoyer

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>>21736208
>there are 9 other males
>picks the one that mogs holowhores
RENT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE