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Previous: >>21537792 (Cross-thread)

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

CURRENT GOAL: Calendar Year?

>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals' lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

THREAD REP TRIPCODE
>/∞/: !XcNdwMsONs, !np2UIvxwi. (backup)
>/clg/: !!S9vZSg00/Br
>/meat/: !!J7IsvbPoQE1

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LORE ARCHIVE
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>>21876247
I would orchestrate a buyout of a part of one of the northern islands for a fortified military port, then. It would be my property, of course, but its intended purpose would be to act as a resupply point for the Black Fleet - and, if /morig/ would be willing - the base of more 'sensitive' operations. It would be primarily geared towards defensibility and shipbuilding, meaning things like hardwood, food, or other supplies would be imported from elsewhere to maximize the usage of space for the aforementioned two purposes.

Oh, and believe me, encryption is key. Information is one of the most priced weapons a trader can have, so unless you put in extraordinary measures for the word not to come out, things /will/ leak eventually. Welcome to /nasfaqg/.

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>>21875680
>>21875055
I'd like to apologize for any misunderstandings. I'm just a little stressed from labor. But this is what I'm trying to figure out. The last thing I want is to have future /nasa/ projects blacklisted by /nasfaqg/. How much capital do we have to put up for liability for the loan?

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>>21879190
I'm the /nasfaqg/ guy and I'm not the upper poster, I'm the lower one. I don't know anything about any loans, and a single trader can't blacklist a whole nation on behalf of /nasfaqg/. I think it was a Sanalite dissenter?

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>>21878821
Yeah, that's a good plan and location! You can be the landowner, but the Admiralcy would likely require that a Black Fleet official be in a leadership position in the installation, with some authority with regards to management, construction and military matters. The exact split of responsibilities can be hashed out in a lease that would satisfy both parties I think.
I took a cryptography course in uni, but all I remember is how SHA-256 hash functions work desu.

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>>21879190
>I'm just a little stressed from labor
Congratulations on the baby Sanallite!

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>>21878949
Oh WARanon it is I, the OGsuner with another question for you. What is the most detrimental factor to winning a war. Is it having sheer manpower, weaponry, tactics, or a mix of a lot of other stuff. How would you go about winning a war?

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>>21879573
NTWaranon, but it's the Will to Fight. A population that maintains its Will to Fight better than another will win the battle.

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>>21879447
If by baby you mean stainless steel sheets right?

>>21879294
Well if you don't know much about loans then do you know about the business of port building? I know the basics of building a port needs piers, warehouses, cranes to load cargo with, etc. However if /nasa/ is building a port then we also need to build a city around it. I think the port would also benefit /who/ as well because sea travel is faster than land travel. Which means /who/ gets fresher produce and ice from /nasa/.

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>>21879648
I would imagine that while loans are certainly offered by some /nasfaqg/ traders, they primarily deal with investments. Selling land, limited-time privileges, or issuing bonds would be a good way of attracting foreign investors.

If it really is a port and it is invested into, a settlement would build around itself naturally as the needs of travelers would have to be catered for.

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>>21879644
It's actually logistics and technology but having morale certainly helps, ultimately, war is about accomplishing your objectives. A smaller nation can win against a bigger one if they mantain such an advantage that keeps the bigger nation from their diplomatic and war objectives.

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>>21879573
Dear OGsuner, this is /nasa/'s Principal. While I am not WARanon I want to give you a message. For better or worse I will be producing the stainless steel sheets that we will plasma cut into your saw blades. So far its pretty easy to follow instructions to recycle the steel. I'm also confident in the team I'm working with as they are masters at crafting stainless steel. They corrected me a few times but they are excellent teachers. I hope the stainless steel blades will serve you well in ship building.

>>21879916
Another thing I brought up is technology secrets. If our investor is a Sanalite then we can be open with technology as he'll follow the Grand Directive. If the investor is not a Sanalite then it will be a hard sell explaining how the technology works without giving away enough details to reverse engineer it.

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>>21879388
An Admiralty could most certainly built and handle the precise military and orderly matters of the settlement. My main interest remains in retaining ownership and exclusive ability to supply the fleet, together with hosting all amenities needed by sailors and visitors to it. Since this is where the profit lies, together with the ship-building. There will likely be a nominal fleet docking/mothball payment, but its amount will be tied to maintenance of the port infrastructure and common areas, I don't expect profit from it.

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>>21880087
Well, I am not offering anything on my own due to that. I'll just wait for the Sanalite trader to pop back in, if they're reading those threads.

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>>21880231
I'll ask /nasa/ when the thread comes back up. Usually there's no point in making threads without a Sana stream scheduled because the Mozzies and SEA monkeys shit up the thread.

Now my question is what would you have to offer if /nasa/'s seaport is up and running?

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>>21880097
Sounds like a win-win arrangement! Nice, with this we just gotta get into talks with /ggg/ or /ameg/ and we can have a rallying point on each corner of the Holosea.

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>>21880886
I have good connections to /nasfaqg/ Takodachi for, uh, reasons, if that could help.

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>>21881051
Ha! Gay!

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>>21877891
/nasa/ Principal log:

The second day I'm not at work the entire station goes on strike. It seems many Sanalites are lost without the direction of being told what to do. This unfortunately is completely unhealthy for any space-faring species. I think its time to show the station tough love. /nasa/ station is going to have to figure things out on their own without me giving orders. Fortunately our essential infrastructure engineers don't need direction to know how to keep the station going. Its mostly the younger Sanalites who are at loss on what to do. Sadly I do not have the answers. The best advice I can give them is apply what they know to make a new purpose for themselves. This is what I learned from our trials without Sana broadcasts.

If /nasa/ is to follow through with settling this world as our own then we need more decentralized authority. I don't mean decentralized military power. I mean people need to figure out their own needs and work for themselves. This decision will certainly lead to controversy. Nevertheless I believe in Sana to lead us to truth. Nevertheless we need to learn how to take care of ourselves.

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>>21881051
I've been on the lookout for takos in /vtwbg/, but they're either extra stealthy or absent. The preference of /morig/ would be to have strong bonds with all Myth nations.

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What do Takodachis think about Sanalites? Ina and Sana are best friends irl.

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>>21881538
What is it with deadbeats and takos...

[Anonymous No.]

What's your nation's current development goals?

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so, i was thinking about how /morig/ seems to be willing to spend an excessive amount of money on destroying /meat/ so i wondered "if they send all their fleets to surround and attack /meat/, what kind of defense would they have against other nations attacking them?" but then i remembered that /morig/ air is a kind of poison that drives people insane that only deadbeats have properly adapted to, though their 300 pound shrine maidens who are agile and light-footed enough to be good at assassination are the only ones who can survive the mountains where it is the most potent. can someone remind me of the exploitable weaknesses /morig/ has? sorry if this comes across as annoying of anything.

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I pity every nation. Our money grows on trees and out of the ground. There is no capitalism either due to our yearly currency reset via the nut tribute. We have some of the best food in the land because of our magical forests. Risuners may not have technology but were living the life. Also we get laid a lot kek

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Well pog. Im sure it will. I was wondering what exactly you wanted dried nuts for but I assume its the same reason as everyone else. The nuts of course being magical and tasting amazing. I assume your rules dont allow for us to exchange the nuts that come out of our bodies.

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>>21883269
We're only good on boats, we don't have a real land army to speak of. Also, the chuubanite concentrations are only high enough to have an effect directly next to Mt. Mori, for the other 99% of the island, chuubanite-infused smoke has to be created artificially with smoke bombs and such. If you landed a large army on /morig/ while the entire navy was off invading /meat/, you'd to fight a population taking up arms to defend their country, nothing less and nothing more, though Mt. Mori itself would likely remain an enclave of resistance even if the rest of the island was beaten down. That's a reason why /morig/ would never send its whole fleet somewhere and leave the island defenseless, the Navy is a part of the island's defense.

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>>21883269
well, they have a harder time swimming due to their bone density, also a rough time in colder climates due to how blood pressure words or something. I thought that the 300 pound shrine maidens of death were going to be dropped though.
If you are to invade /morig/ first step is destroying their navy, something that'd be hard to do, you'd need to harass them to drop their numbers or completely trash them in one big decisive battle. If you somehow manage this then the next step is organizing a naval invasion into one of their ports, they have well armed citizen militias but no organized state military, so resistance is to be expected more on urban guerrilla combat than direct confrontation with them, now, organized militaries are much stronger than citizen militias for many reasons.

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>>21883636
Who are you replying to?

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>>21877831
I'm a tourist in this thread but it's kinda bothering me that the Luna thread is listed as "/cig/" in the lore doc. That was an attempt to give the thread a suffix (/cij/ or /nna/) that ended up being a failed experiment. It's not even spelled properly. It's better you remove it.

t. A Lunaito

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>>21883965
fucking derp. i meant to reply to >>21880087

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>>21884001
/naa/ or /nna/ sounds nice

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>>21884001
i personally think it would make sense to name luna either /luna/ or /naaa/. risu also is just called Ayunda Risu and their land is called /risu/

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>>21884147
>>21884088
>>21884001
I saw a picture of Luna crying for Sanalites during our worst time in our history. We're doing just fine now. We still have some growing pains. Sanalites just need to find their purpose. Either way thank you crying Luna poster for having sympathy for us. It made this world more welcoming for us.

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>>21884088
>>21884147
I was one of the dudes trying the /nna/ suffix but it just didn't take. Traditionally it has never had one. I think /luna/ would be fine for this project.

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>>21883796
>>21883951
that makes sense. ty for the reply. so boarding sounds like an even more effective strategy now, i guess. i figured the biggest advantage of /morig/ soldiers over /meat/ soldiers would be numbers, with /meat/ needing to rely on divide and conquer strategies to be effective, and i also thought the mist you guys have in your masks was only potentially a liability out-of combat, and only when you take an excessive amount of it, but i guess it's hard to coordinate an army when everyone is high on mind-altering drugs that make you overly aggressive and schizo, so you guys might end up dividing yourselves.

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>>21883951
I did some calcs afterwards and a typical fully grown priestess is prolly closer to 220-250 pounds. I'm somewhat surprised this was a sticking point, 200 pounds of muscle is like, an average college football player, it's not superhuman kek.

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>>21884616(me)
so what about any mitigating strengths? obviously the masks are a choice, and only make you insane with excessive use, but you also are bound by tradition to wear them, if i am not mistaken. i know you guys are more durable due to being made of bone, and you guys have a culture oriented around war and combat. what else?

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>>21884080
That's okay Risuner. /nasa/ has awesome recipes for processing nuts that makes our breads taste better. Have you ever heard of chocolate hazelnut spread?

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>>21884855
We bleed quite slowly due to the thicker blood, so wounds to the head or the organs are probably needed to kill us instantly, it would take some time for a deadbeat to collapse from bleeding out from cuts and slashes.

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>>21885322
makes sense, but isn't that part of the whole "durability" strength. it takes more to cut you, so of course your cuts will be duller and bleed out less, there isn't as much of a cut for the blood to come out of. if you are saying that it goes beyond being a natural result of being made of bone, however, then that might be a bit of a weakness. it would take more time for scabs to form, meaning that while the wound might not get worse on it's own, or might not pose a threat via bloodless, it would also take more time for it to get better, which could be a problem over time.
>>21884832
to be fair, if you look up "300 pound man" on google, you'll see what most people think of when they hear that. if they move at the same rate, and have more mass, by definition they are able to produce more impact.

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So to kill a deadbeat easily all we need are baseball bats? What about concussive explosives that produce a shockwave explosion like dynamite? I'm realizing more and more everyday that /nasa/ is /morig/'s worst enemy.

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>>21885931
Nah, it's more like the blood is thicker, more syrup-like, so it flows out of the wound more slowly, because of the higher concentration of red blood cells, scabbing is not particularly impeded. It makes deadbeats more prone to internal blood clots though, so cardiovascular health is a must. The obesity crisis in the 21th century is gonna hit us like a truck if we don't have Japan-tier diets kek.
>>21886238
Yeah, concussive weapons striking the head would be effective. The brain is still just squishy brain matter, just in a more solid box, but bouncing around in the skull is still no good.
And yes, dynamite explosions kill deadbeats kek. I think that goes for most humans desu...

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>>21886336
>/nasa/ has space suits with oxygen tanks and air filters that protect them from poison gas.
>/nasa/ has concussive explosives from rockets to mortars to grenades.
>/nasa/ has cricket and baseball bats fir sports that can smash skulls.
>/nasa/ also has electric spears and glaives that electricute on contact.
>Give or take 10 years /nasa/ will have boats stronger and faster than /infinity/'s ironclads.
>/nasa/ also has powered mechs that are bullet proof and can carry heavy things.

>"Greetings natives! We come in peace. Try some bread. Ever heard of a game called Pokemon?"

Thank Mori /nasa/ spacemen are the nicest people.

>"Cunts."

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>>21886971
Ah, cricket players... Harbingers of doom for Earthlings.

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Risuners are admitfully really shit at invading another country. Not that they would ever want to of course but being so decentralized with no standing army along with their low tech disadvantage would make an offensive impossible. However risuners have a MASSIVE home field advantage due to being able to take cover in the trees. Guirrela tactics + speed and of course their natural climbing ability would mean even for an advanced and skilled army invading risu by land would be a nightmare.

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>>21887241
>When you're on patrol duty and the trees start speaking Risunese

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>>21887087
>cricket is a sport for aliens
Checks out

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>>21853126
Nice, hyped for the update! You said you were on the Nijicontinent now, right?

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>>21887882
>>21887087
Can we play with /Iofy/ and /moon/ then? Personally I prefer zero-gravity rugby.

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am i missing anything/you all need anything from me? all i would like currently is a reminder of the types of rocks and stuff /risu/ has to determine if we have iron or not. Were rolling in peat and i believe we have ligmite deep down. Forgot to take notes the last time geo anons said something but if the geonons wish to grace me with knowledge i promise to record it for myself.

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>>21888761
>ligmite
ligmitesticles lmao
I'll leave the time and place up to you

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>>21870752
>we can stop /meat/ raiding if we basically conquer them
I guess you aren't technically wrong...

>>21871139
Embassy's probably one of the safer ways when it comes to preventing /meat/ cults, considering that you could monitor its staff easier than private citizens and individual merchants.

>>21871476
Of course, but the real question is where would you cut the load and space? Gun deck at the cost of reducing firepower, which is /morig/'s strongest against /meat/ ships? Living space, which would reduce the number of crew on ship and (by extension) operating capacity and defence against boarding action? Material, which would make the ship generally more vulnerable? The decision's yours.
Another factor's that for sailing ships, "speed" isn't a universal stat that you can just put points into. /morig/'s square rig design makes them basically unrivalled when sailing downwind, but very slow and cumbersome when having to sail against the wind, while /meat/ sail is basically the reverse (although /meat/ ship is better sailing downwind than /morig/ sailing upwind). Victory in naval combat is often decided by who can put themselves in a circumstance that benefits them the most.

>>21872628
You can always consider hiring /meat/ escorts...

>>21873122
Sounds good to me!

>>21888761
/risu/ should have a lot of laterite due to the extensive weathering of rocks. They're supposed to be pretty rich in iron (and nickel for that matter). Despite seeing mentions of it being a major source of iron in some places, I still can't find how the ores are formed in them...
As mentioned before, once /risu/ kickstarted its metallurgy and smiths with bog iron, it shouldn't be an issue extracting iron from laterite or other iron ore.

[infinity !XcNdwMsONs No.]

Good morning all

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>>21877831
Actual previous thread: >>21768461
Everything in the anchor should be archived. Time to continue writing...

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>>21889455
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
t. OP

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>>21883122
Nukes[spoiler/]

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>>21889324
Good morning clock.

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>>21888761
I had a response but my network crapped out and I lost it. I'll try to be up in the morning. Its bedtime here.

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>>21889064
risuners would make that joke constantly kek
>>21889229
THANK YOU! now that you mention i do remember laterite being mentioned. Ill make sure to update the lore page.

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>>21889229
/nasa/ can repurpose corpses for many things. Its one of the few resources we have in deep space. So /meat/ cults are unappealing to us. That said we're no longer constrained by population limits anymore. Perhaps things will change.

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>>21890748
Last thing before bed. /nasa/ wants to help /risu/ build their ships better so /risu/ can ship nuts to /infinity/. Once /nasa/ has their seaport and insulated ships we can import /risu/'s nuts from /infinity/ via northern sea route. /nasa/ can try to fortify ice breakers for the winter trip. Though for that we'll probably need diesel motors.

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>>21891007
Just because you're used to toothpaste food doesn't mean you won't enjoy gourmet if it's available, if you know what I mean. Still, like what >>21844370 said, trading partners don't need to worry about /meat/ actively spreading its cult among its population. although /meat/ can't really do anything if people decide by themselves to start cannibal cults

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>>21890732
goodnight anon.
>>21891247
sounds good to me. ive been doing fuckloads of research on indo boats recently. them fuckers actually had a giant ass ship bigger than european galleons. its called the jong and if im not mistaken, it originated from china. had hundreds of cannons on it. Known as the junk for the chinese ones (kek) and djong for the malaysian ones i believe.

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>>21891476
Hundreds of cannons? Fuck, that sounds pretty awesome risuners. Think you guys wanna build one of these?
>There are also names in Malay "cunea", "cunia", and "cunya"
UOOOOOHH

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>>21889229
>conquering /meat/
Try it! We have an eldritch abomination under our mountains and we're not afraid of letting it out!

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>>21892176
"these" being a jong*

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>>21892230
It makes sense that every country would have a secret weapon that can come into play if the nation is threatened existentially. The thread's existence in Vitubia is linked to its existence in /vt/, so unless /vtwbg/ becomes powerful enough to influence the board, a nation can never be completely destroyed if it still exists on /vt/.

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>>21883269
>what kind of defense would they have against other nations attacking them
/meat/ isn't an offensive oriented state. It's defensive.
We begin with espionage.
/meat/ hates having to deal with direct conflicts. .
Before war is declared, our cultists and super soldier agents will do their best to stall or stop any attempts at war. Assassinations, misdirection, the works.
Should that fail and war is declared, if you havent clean up house for any cultists, expect your entire chain of command to disappear overnight.
If physical warfare is inevitable, here's our geography.
>Trenches
This one is obvious. You dont wanna know what lies beneath. In fact, even I have no idea what is down there. The Kaniko chapter that is responsible for watching over the trench is very secretive and their patron chuuba is obscure. But whatever it is, we have a mutual arrangement with our neighbour /vspo/ to use it to defend them too.
>Coasts
Coral. We boast having a large coral reef. Ships cant travel near the coast without proper navigation. If you get hit, that's the least of your problems. These corals have Dentata infused vtubium minerals in their bodies. Abandoning ship is not the wisest choice.
>Land
You will have to face extreme asymmetrical warfare and psychological warfare. The soldiers responsible with domestic defense are the strongest and well trained. Super soldiers rumored to carry multiple vtubium abilities from Mai's regeneration to Tsubaki's blood draining to Dentata's vines. There are not plenty of them, about 1 per division, but quality over quantity.
>Mountains
Rough terrain is always a bad idea to traverse. Especially when you have guerilla super soldiers. Plus the wildlife are just as aggressive. If we're desperate, we could incite a janny raid. It would be mutual destruction for both parties but the homeland can recover.
If things get too desperate, such as a massive defcon 1 total war, something lies beneath the mountains. Waiting to be unleashed upon Vtubia.

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>>21893746
I'm going to eat the eldritch abomination

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>>21893746
Also, forested swampland and tropical forest with heavy undergrowth due to its seasonal nature. This would likely be more significant on the eastern coast (which would be where enemy fleet arrive if they sail downwind of the trade winds dominating this latitude), so anyone not prepared for the tropical environment would have a bad time making their way past the mangrove trees and wetland, especially if they were weighted down by, say, armour and weapon. There were clearings between the corals and marshes, but those places were also where major /meat/ settlements were located, and trying to land in those place might be... ill-advised.

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>>21893746
my thought was that others might take advantage of them while they overextend into /meat/ territory, but with how much influence /meat/ has over other nations, i figure setting up an invasion of enemy territory as a distraction to force /morig/ to pull back some of it's forces would be an effective way of neutralizing the threat. fighting on two fronts is generally a bad idea, but if they are so determined to fight /meat/ to the death, their dense bones would make for great material for the fleshwrights to mold to their liking.

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>>21894509
By and large, /morig/ is not interested in /meat/ annihilation, they just see human sacrifice as heretical. Well, except some radicalized hardliners, but everyone has those...

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>>21894745
It happens, and all the issues that would arise from a hypothetical invasion of /meat/ will probably be enough to make cooler heads prevail.
Incidentally, what weapons (both hot and cold) do deadbeats prefer? Asking for a friend.

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>>21894860
Probably varies depending on situation. Firearms would be common at this point, overall, usually with a bayonet. Bladed and striking weapons are both available depending on the threat expected by the fighter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21895510
Noted with thanks! Any specific kinds of firearms and blades they have? Say, something that would serve well as sidearms in an urban environment outside proper combat.

[Anonymous No.]

Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
Folk tales

1. the Sandman
In the darkness of the night during full moons the division between the soulpath and our reality is at its weakest, the sandman crosses into our world to pay visits, a wicked being, you may be doing an essay or catching up on the newspaper and he'll surely appear! With all the care in the world, he'll treat you nice, get you comfortable before he strikes, Huzzah! it's suddenly morning and you didn't get to finish that oh so important work you had... You sure do feel well rested thought.

2. Jabberwock
Oh what a brutalliant day it seets to be.
Let yourself clight and frill for a jab at it.
The Jabberwock won't be pealfed at me.
But I'll clack it up with my bladient Vorpal.
Just as the Unknown did so in a gest past.
Kris blade ot and belk 3 mountains, pal.

3. Ghosts
Some people seem to live lifes full of grudges and resentment, others just don't seem to care too much about death in the first place, some believe this causes them to appear in the world even after death, be it to carry out their grudges or simply to hang out a bit more in the world, maybe they somehow managed to find their way out of the soulpath, or maybe there is more to the mind of a living being that we think.

4. Hero Watson
the legendary usurper of time, who challenged the gods and made a nation for herself, a human hero of grand proportions, the Nameless being watched and spied with great fascination until she could learn more about such a character. From their many interactions with each other, it'd be easy to confuse them for sisters due to the care they give each other.

6. King of the mountain
King Monty,the charismatic hidden king beneath the mountains and hills, along with his court of eccentric characters, all old friends of a certain vagabund with no name, it is even said that she stole the crown sitting a top of the king as a gift for him.

7. Bean juice fairy
Access to coffee has been rare across the Republic, that is until the mass importation of coffee from Anya-Petra Global, with this powerful substance that allows one to mantain themselves awake even after hours of intense strain be it mental or physical, it has quickly become a beloved drink of anyone from the working class to those of the upper classes, it comes with a danger however, if you consume too much coffee you might attract the attention from a malicious fairy, it will implore you to keep drinking coffee even when you don't need it, addiction is a serious issue after all, but you could certainly be addicted to more harmful things, so there's nothing wrong with pouring another cup I'd say.

8. Everywhere System
Not quite a folk story, but commentary of how the nameless being would appear in multiple stories and legends across the continent even if she had no real business being there, generally having small lines and doing things that might be considered somewhat amoral.

9. Sunken city
In her quest to learn more from the world, the nameless being once found information about a supposed sunken city that was protected by the Lady of the seas, many attempts were made to breaking in and finding out more, but the Lady was always there to stop her, ultimately, the nameless being swore that she'd remember it, and one day she will pay, nothing much came from these threats however, thought they did manage to keep the Lady on edge.

Anchoring
>>21877891
I reworked it, added a few things and took out some others. There'd presumably be more, but I'm not doing anymore thinking for the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kind of short this time, but it would probably be too long if I write until the next natural cutoff point.

The pale, serene moonlight continued to pour into the empty streets. As the majority of people fell asleep once again after the watch, Melisende emerged from the shadows of the back alleys once more. Despite her occupation, she was never really a fan of dealing with people - this lazy stroll across the pebble street gave her a brief respite before she had to dive into the investigation again. Even then, memories of what she had seen continued to bubble up in her overactive mind. A drop of sweat slid down from her skin... Perhaps Burton was right - this case was all bad luck. The more rational side of her felt it might be better to drop the investigation before she learnt something she would rather not... but the other side of her was curious, maybe too curious for her own good.

The blonde detective eventually stopped her steps, the capped head looking up to her next destination. While its location in the urban business district made it necessarily smaller than prodigy houses in the countryside, it was still a rather luxurious building. Neat rows of red bricks lined the wall, interrupted and reinforced by straight pillars that defined the shape of the building. Large windows between the pastel frames showed that it had three storeys, but the drapes concealed every single one of the dark rooms within. Several stagecoaches occupied the small, well-maintained lawn before the arched entrance, their refined embellishment suggesting the status of its inhabitants. Hanging before the building, the name of this establishment was bronzed on the tight grain sign - "Mai's Inn".

If the information she received from the fresh constable was correct, though, this merchants' hall was not what it seemed. Supposedly, hidden somewhere in it was one of the gathering places of the cannibal cult. Although not exactly illegal by itself, many of the gorier practices of a cult like this would nonetheless land them on the wrong side of the law. Then again, if they could operate in an opulent building like this, they either manage to evade investigation good enough, or they indeed had someone powerful in their ranks to protect them.

(1/3)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21897738
Truth be told, Melisende did not think that grey-eyed rookie was entirely reliable. If things went south, she would probably be more of a liability than an asset. Still, her lead was the only one so far, and Burton trusted her enough to guard the crime scene. Swallowing her doubts alongside her saliva, she lifted her hand and knocked on the door before making her way in.

The lobby was suitably well-decorated for a building like this. Polished chuubanite mounted on a chandelier illuminated the area with their magical glow, showing the sandalwood doors and stairway leading to the rest of the building. Mounted on the wall before the parting staircase, an exquisite oil painting of the elegant Kaiserin cast her masqueraded, smiling gaze on the detective, before her attention was drawn by the soft greeting from the side.

"Welcome to Mai's Inn. How may I serve you today?" Standing behind the counter, a brown-haired maidservant offered the blonde private eye a bow, her emerald eyes meeting the sapphire eyes as she smiled.

"Oh... I would like a room, please." The pounding from within her chest quickened as Melisende answered. So far, this place looked just like a regular, if well-maintained inn... then again, it was not like she could normally afford a night in such an establishment. Concealing any uncertainties that might reveal her true nature, she parted her lips once more and whispered the code she was given. "Oh, and a stagecoach to Okachimachi in the morning, if it's not too much a hassle."

"But of course." The smile on her face deepened. The metal-nibbed pen danced on the ledger, leaving behind a row or two of records before returning to its resting place. Then, the maidservant gracefully moved away from the reception and towards one of the side doors. "Please follow me to your accommodation... my friend."

She had passed the first hurdle, from the look of it... that, or the maidservant was simply luring her deeper into the building, away from prying eyes before making her move. With a polite nod, the detective followed her through the door, her crossed arms resting on the wooden handle hidden beneath her coat.

(2/3)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21897777
"May I ask if this is the first time you graced our modest establishment?" The room behind the door was not as well-lit as the entrance hall, but its plastered walls were nonetheless adorned with fine relief. Rows of barrels laid on their side on the wooden shelves, each with their unique markings befitting for fine wine.

"Ah, yes. A confidant of mine told me of this place. They said it will cater to my... needs well." The detective's answer on the fly was not met with further inquiries. The chambermaid reached for one of the casks leaning against the wall. Pulling open the head, the inside was not filled with liquor from the land of owls like the label suggested, but instead some kind of block and tackle leading into the wall.

"Indeed we will." With a gentle tug of the well-weathered rope, the faint squeaking noise echoing between the walls suggested something was being moved, and the otherwise unassuming plank floor to the side gradually sank into the ground, revealing a dark path down from the light. Once the ropes stopped their movement, the maiden turned to the detective and offered her a curtsey.

"Please, enjoy your stay..." The gentle slope was inviting, and the blue eyes could see some kind of doorway at the end of the brick corridor. With a deep breath, the boots began marching down into the unknown - it was not like she had any choice now. Once she stood before the shut door, the ramp behind her was pulled up once more, the light from above narrowing until she was covered in pitch darkness.

"... my delicious friend."

(3/3)

Part 1:
>>21856414
>>21856436

Part 2:
>>21868078
>>21868113
>>21868147
>>21868169

[Anonymous No.]

>>21897819
>>21897777
>>21897738
Ambience for anyone
https://youtu.be/HA4ggteI5c8
https://youtu.be/mtE_3nOl6eI

[Anonymous No.]

How long before /nasa/ does something crazy like destroy the planet's core?

Also, to our local geologist, what would happen if the planet's core got destroyed?

[Anonymous No.]

>When you live in the /hlgg/
https://youtu.be/YopeMKDusDM
>When you live in /who/ or /kfp/
https://youtu.be/4bWAabehsJg
>When you live in /nasa/
https://youtu.be/M6fUe75ct_I
>When you live anywhere else on Holo continent
https://youtu.be/blgfY2u2V8A
>When you live in /meat/
https://youtu.be/4JDTmiqqBnI

[Anonymous No.]

>>21898802
Entirely out of personal opinion, but I think this fits /who/ more.
https://youtu.be/aiRn3Zlw3Rw

[Anonymous No.]

>>21899239
>no subliminal horror
impossible

[Anonymous No.]

>>21898802
>when you live in /inf/
https://youtu.be/OBQE_TNI7zw

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQYN2P3E06s
>/who/ Good ending

>>21898802
>/who/ Bad ending

>>21899239
>/who/ Neutral ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ26fFLNLB4
>/who/ "true" ending

[Anonymous No.]

>>21899423
>/inf/ Bad Ending
https://youtu.be/183tEhupiSQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>21899332
It is fun to play into the edge, but I do try to mantain it from becoming solely our identity and avoid things like this guy here >>21899486
Considering things I'd say good ol' Zero fits better for a true ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ey_q1QziMU

Among other things, I'll out a few other songs that might fit /who/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDPa6XDFyOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3BHyOhVXmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFr_PHGVcnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0FZ2ObAckw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_podzD4cSA

[Anonymous No.]

>>21899929
Well I do agree that a little too much shitposting(and the fact that most of our lore have been focusing on the military) may make ppl believe we are a schizo nation. I do plan on writing lore on the festivities and communal activities /who/mans partake in to make the lore more diverse and better reflect what everyday life would be(after all even if there's conscription, most ppl would eventually return to the civilian world).

Btw what should /who/ anthem sound like?
I'm thinking either something like Battle hymn of the Republic or Auferstanden Aus Ruinen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21898802
>when the monks of /rrat/ prepare to defend their fortress monastery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q9bCtSLUWI

[Anonymous No.]

>>21900458
>National anthem
I've thought a lot about that, but I could never decide for something, Battle Hymn of the Republic is one of the first that came to mind, La Marseillaise too, the deal is I don't think taking a real world anthem and slapping it on is a good idea (althought if you really think we should then we could), A New Start is nice but it just doesn't quite sound fitting for an anthem either.
I've also seriously considered Kokia's Fukurou, do you think that'd be a good idea?
Together to the stars too https://youtu.be/5KysITV4t5E
Basically, I've just been procastinating it.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't been in these threads for a while, why /hfz/ next to /meat/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21901650
the tripfag made a lot of weird decisions in hindsight

[Anonymous No.]

>>21901802
I mean there is something of a duality to it. Both are crazy, warrior cultures; one of a weird worship and reverence and the other eating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21901949
sure, I'd probably move /hfz/ and /nasfaqg/ into the holo continent anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

Been pondering what the role of /LOE/ in this world might be like. In my mind it's one of those separatist movements, based in the southern region of /nijien/, and not recognised by any other state.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21893899
>the united forces of the Holo Sea have dealt a decisive blow to /meat/ and have made landfall on the peninsula, seeking to destroy the cannibal menace once and for all
>"I never could have imagined we'd reach this point. The time has come. Release the you-know-what."
>...
>"It's gone?"
>...
>"He did WHAT?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>21884855
The masks aren't worn at all times, just kept handy. They're only meant to be worn in the heat of combat, and depending on the amount/type of chuubanite used as well as the conditioning of the wearer, the buff only lasts for anywhere from 20 minutes to a little over an hour before you start to feel woozy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21878949
I FUCKING LOVE WAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>21905404
Once the Extremis Ultimis demo is released, I'll play the Black Legion and pretend it's /who/

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone seen meprep? I wanted to challenge them in fishing but haven't seen them post in a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21905480
Forgot image

[Anonymous No.]

>>21905206
never said they were worn at all times, i said you were bound by tradition to wear them, as in you wear them during combat

[Anonymous No.]

>>21901413
I think, this would fit pretty nicely
https://youtu.be/mPTCq3LiZSE

[Anonymous No.]

>>21905627
>>21905480
kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>21894860
>>21895510
>>21895628
I imagined /morig/ as being a late adopter of firearms due to being highly traditionalist when it comes to martial matters. The lack of an organized military (and individual renowned warriors that would serve as de facto leaders being highly prideful) would also mean that the orderly "stand in a line and shoot" strategies that were common at this point in time wouldn't really take hold at a large scale. I won't try to say more because I'm not super knowledgeable on guns or 18th Century battle tactics.

That said, because of their training and the added bonus of Death Masks, deadbeats are experts in CQC and tend to be extremely skilled melee weapons users, which is advantageous for the guerilla warfare tactics favored in the event of an invasion of the island itself. Probably the most notable weapon still favored by traditionalists and found in the hands of warriors throughout the island are the signature black javelins. Throughout centuries of repelled invasions of /morig/, hundreds if not collective thousands of them remain sticking out of the ground on the coastlines where they were thrown to serve as a symbol. Otherwise, the heavily armored warriors are also known to favor big fuck-off weapons to be as imposing (and chuuni) as possible. In spite of the perceived impracticality, they know how the fuck to use them. Short swords or large knives are common sidearms, as well as the bayonet of a rifle. Shrine maidens are forbidden from using firearms. They use concealed blades, short swords, and the most skilled senior priestesses learn naginata. They're also known to pop out of corners or drop out of the sky to perform Sekiro-style assassinations. A senior shrine maiden doped up with a berserker mask and a naginata is probably the most dangerous single person on Holocontinent for about 15 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21898632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXQeP6ESnE

I'll just leave this here :)

[Anonymous No.]

Also wtf is this about /nasa/ being on a strike? I swear, i leave for 1 day...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21906026
i remember hearing someone say that was an impractical design, but i can't recall exactly why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21906101
Yea, the weight might be a bit of a problem xD

[Anonymous No.]

>>21901413
Ideally, everyone would have a music anon compose their custom anthem and have writer anons write the lyrics. But of course that's not very attainable. I would say irl march/anthems with modified or completely rewritten lyric would be the better choice for our anthem but it's really just a project for fun so any music that fits /who/ and mooms would do too.
Anthems really aren't that important for this stage anyways. It adds a lot of flavour to the lore but other aspects take precedence.
>Anus tart
Not great as anthem but might do as sort of a national song like waltzing matilda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21898802
Theme of /morig/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz264R7xoo

The Old Abbey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljc7jwVYVQw

The Underworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_G7Haf1aOI

Invasion of /morig/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmH-unczPY

Ascending Mount Mori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CXBsFKNaBI

[Anonymous No.]

>>21908761
>Ascending Mount Mori
Gonna ascend Mori's mounts and jump-assassinate her lower valley, if you catch my drift

[Anonymous No.]

/voms/ theme song
https://youtu.be/BdtiYwSP9ko

[Anonymous No.]

/meat/core
1. Cults & Spies
https://youtu.be/8WDd2ZiqOFo
https://youtu.be/9c9FXjK8mC4

2. A Day in Matiriki
https://youtu.be/W_6JdWK3Hnw
https://youtu.be/WhNhLdKsejI
https://youtu.be/5cqHuSarr8g

3. Vikingrchiuhqui Flower Blot
https://youtu.be/1j7f7xTQ26g
https://youtu.be/EU15xs9TgdE

4. War Theme
https://youtu.be/I79Fkdizwx4

5. Ally Theme
https://youtu.be/Enb-rTasgyI

6. Victory Against Heaven
https://youtu.be/UKl2lI_z3y4

[Anonymous No.]

Addition to the general lore:
Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク

The Northern Campaigns:
The Republic has several logging camps and mines in the uninhabited Northern Tundra (currently /nasa/ territory). But these camps are curiously, all no more 50 km away from /uuu/'s border.
Way beyond the frozen tundra the spacemen now call home, lies the schizo wastes. Every year, they amass and cross the great ice bridge that emerges during the winter to the warmer south, in search of anything that they can pillage and burn down. For this reason, the Republic never went beyond the safety its mountains provided and only maintain camps and mining outposts that are only manned in the summer and autumn.

Despite /uuu/'s hostile(relative to the schizos) floras and inhabitants, the sheer number of schizos means that many would still make it through the strip of forest that separates the tundra and /who/. Therefore, the Republic established a network of fortifications all along its northern border and the most elite regiments man these forts and trenches. To thoroughly repel the schizo threat, additional Legions are mobilized to the front every winter to prepare for the onslaught and for sweeping the region of any stragglers after the main forces have been routed. Additionally, as a mutual agreement, the Republic stations troops near /uuu/'s north to act as pickets, also aiding and advising saplings in military matters.

Any other nation's citizens would shudder at the thought of an unending horde of raiders that puts their family and livelihoods constantly at risk. But the winter raids and the Northern Campaigns are just a part of live for /who/mans. Citizens in the less developed Northern provinces even see this as an opportunity, to provide services and good to the garrisoning armies. This aspect of life in the Republic possibly contributes to the rather cavalier attitude its citizens exhibit.

Notes: Anchoring >>21877891; May need /nasa/ and other nations that border the wastes to provide feedback on this. As this concerns the general lore of the Republic, I think it's better suited in the general lore rentry.

[Anonymous No.]

bump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21881791
gay sex, at least in /nasfaqg/

[Mountain Enjoyer No.]

The Songs of the /KFP/

1. The lass waiting home at the village
https://youtu.be/MYZuKn6dwys

2. Glory to the Kaiserin! Glory to KFP!
https://youtu.be/49acbk0U-3Y

3. A day at the dockyard: Busy Pölitid/Greedy Fönixid
https://youtu.be/-YkhW6dqMT0

4. The best laid plans of Chickens and Phoenixes
https://youtu.be/JW4RtS1XD9g

5. War Theme (The Song of Wildfire)
https://youtu.be/aQM7zyTvzAM

6. Victory! Hurrah for KFP!
https://youtu.be/OafArkpI9_Y

[Anonymous No.]

>>21910124
>Winter Is Coming...

[Anonymous No.]

>Being religious in /∞/:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjM63BFLl7E

[Anonymous No.]

>>21913599
The only god they worship is clock

[Anonymous No.]

We worship squirrel woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>21914121
We've lived in isolationism, of course we only love Kronii.
Except those heathen who worship Boros or Krono

[Anonymous No.]

>>21914121
There's nothing more beautiful that being bonked by that clock.

[Anonymous No.]

Do not die.

[Anonymous No.]

busy watching risu right now

[Anonymous No.]

probably better to post in rentry links from now on

[Anonymous No.]

>>21908629
Not that guy but oh boy do I wish I had the brand of autism to throw together a proper orchestral piece. I agree with the notion that something that either leans into Auferstanden Aus Ruinen's whole rebuilding from the ruins of war, or La Marseillaise's almost jingoistic approach. I guess I'll have a look around, because unless someone comes around who can actually make music from the ground up then yeah adding or changing lyrics to a march might be one of our best bets.

On a similarish note, what kind of real world culture/region would be the best equivalent of /who/? I've seen people compare the environment to France a bit, and I can kinda see it at least with the southern half. I'm not sure if the stereotype of being crude and cavalier fits, don't know much about stereotypes of regions in France. Kinda want to know so I have a ground to work with if I'd ever write short stories and what-not, what kinda names I'd use for people and for locations.

[Anonymous No.]

watching risu. realizes holoID server has a risu island with a fuckload of flowers and scenery. Typical of risu desu but it did have me thinking what flowers would be available to /risu/. Time to do autism on fucking flowers of all things

[Anonymous No.]

Still need to finish that story with the /meat/ visitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21919101
The culture & language doesn't have to be similar or based on an irl group. Based on where /who/ is and juxtaposing it on our map(Earth) it's roughly where France(or maybe Flanders & the Netherlands) is. But I only use it as a reference to the crops, rough geography and natural resources the Republic has.
>I'm not sure if the stereotype of being crude and cavalier fits
I'm just following the description in the general lore rentry. If you mean board culture I guess it isn't that good of a fit. I think /who/rep originally had /who/ to be a little like Russia(Russian potato farmer rrat, thus the farming of potatoes & the cold personality) but that's just a guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21919987
Oh, I was more refering to if the stereotype of southern France would fit the stereotype that's been constructed for the Republic here. I'm just thinking about keeping things consistent so I'm not calling a hooman Dobroslaw who hails from the village of Colline-de-pommes

[Anonymous No.]

>>21906053
Its a good opportunity to decentralize /nasa/'s economy where they no longer have to follow command to operate. We've lived following comnand on strict resources for too long. Now we have an abundance of food and space. Its time to expand. To expand we need decentralized command via independent companies.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>21919101
>>21919987
Good thing I just woke up, I had been basing /who/ off a combination of Russia, France, and Britain, just throwing things in that I consider cool, the navy is somewhat based off of the US, and I had been thinking of using japanese yokai stories for reference into the folk stories, to that, but the main ones would be those 3.

I don't think the cavalier thing really fits /who/ at all though,

[Anonymous No.]

>>21923394
Okay guess I'm 1/3 correct.
>don't think the cavalier thing really fits /who/ at all though,
No matter, you can change that bit when adding it to the Rentry. Was not sure how I can describe the citizen's general temperament so just picked a random word I remember from the thesaurus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21910124
I'll contest that, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have that, I'm guessing it's to represent how sometimes we get raided by schizos, but those events are never really large enough to be considered full on invasions and they seem to happen to every other general in the board.
>>21924215
I guess it could be described with the "stiff upper lip" thing, or maybe just stubborness, or maybe just general hooliganism. Dunno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21924397
It's both that we get schizo raids relatively frequently and the Republic sits pretty close to the wastes. Since some splits in the Western continent have actual land borders with the Schizo Wastes(or just so close that an invasion would directly threaten them) I thought that having the Schizos actively invade the nearby nations(only during set times, as the main wasteland is now separated from the main Holo-continent) would be interesting.

Unfortunately due to how the map is divided and there's only one clearly marked origin for the schizos it's kinda hard to "distribute" them, so each splits can incorporate them into their lore. Luckily(or unluckily) /who/ is pretty close to the wastes so there's a steady supply of em.

I've been wanting to incorporate the wastes into the lore because the whole siege expert thing plus horde is kinda too rule of cool to pass it off. But if you think it isn't appropriate then I do agree it might be better to be shelved for now until we figure out a way how to distribute the schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

Pro tip. Keep all your rentry logs in notepad files so they can be edited. Just in case anyone here already didnt know. If anyone has even more pro tips that will be pog but its been working for me so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21925587
You can make a custom edit code. You know how the "edit code" at the bottom left when writing it up? Enter a memorable password there. You cam just use one personal edit code for all your entries

[Anonymous No.]

>>21925299
Not that guy, but I think it was interesting, also justifies the strong military tradition that's still being maintained with conscription despite otherwise friendly neighbors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21905988
It makes perfect sense deadbeats wouldn't adopt musket line formations, these evolve from having a ton of guys with muskets on huge open fields (napoleonic wars being the iconic example). Our combat is all on ships, or amphibious assaults, so this isn't a use-case we have needed to deal with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21897738
>>21897777
>>21897819
Really immersive descriptions, the soundtrack helped too lol. I'm getting kinda worried for Melisende.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21926212
Napoleon was known for breaking the line tactics in favor of columns and more advanced formations like he infantry square, facilitating their eventual decline. Generally infantry columns were utilized during the French Republic era, since their bayonet charges of motivated militiamen were murderously effective against disciplined lines.

Line tactics arose in XVIIth century from Mauritian Infantry units (when it comes to widespread use, that is).

[Anonymous No.]

>>21926669
Thanks for the added info, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21926411
Thanks, I would pick soundtrack for the chapters too if I was anywhere near good at it lol
The next chapter's coming, but it's getting a bit long (see >>21917919) so I might just post it in rentry to avoid spamming the thread like 6 times

[Anonymous No.]

>>21926993
Oh, and one more thing - the adoption of line formations arose from long reload times and inaccuracies of early firearms. The idea was to maximize firepower and also concentrate it in a single volley (at least for the first 1-2 shots) to attempt to break the enemy morale and cause them to flee. It's different when you're under a hail of inaccurate bullets that occasionally kill someone around you and when a well-placed volley straight-up decimates 1/3rd of your formation at once.

If /morig/ relies primarily on melee weapons, they would never need to adapt line tactics in the first place, likely operating more loosely as skirmish groups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21927306
Makes sense. This lines up with my experience from Total War: Empire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21926669
slight correction, Napoleon used column formation to march troops since he had cavalry and artillery fucking up the enemy so much the heavy columns were unstoppably moving forward. If the enemy line held, the infantry would rearrange to line formation to engage. The Brits learned this and engaged the columns (shot them), before they redeployed to line and caused heavy damage to the Napoleonic armies. British generals are quoted with literally saying "wtf is this column formation,
dude your men are dying!"

the smoothbore rifle is the reason line formations started falling out of fashion. Suddenly people can shoot faster. Old musket warfare was shoot a volley to weaken the line, then bayonet charge to finish. With the new rifles, infantry would practically melt before the bayonet chargers could even reach across the field. Which then led to trench warfare

[Anonymous No.]

>>21927722
>the smoothbore rifle
Anon... I think you made a typo...

The proliferation of rifled small arms is a great contributor to the decline of line tactics but breechloaders and metallic carriages becoming common are the bigger factor in how the fire rate of your average infantry increased dramatically.(read: Austria vs Prussia)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21927722
Look up how columns were used in the ol' Revolutionary days. Turns out that a barely trained dentist with a bayonet who just witnessed his comrades-in-arms die will eviscerate trained troops in a spectacular fashion. They were a great "mass attack" tactic when hand-to-hand combat was preferred, like in the Siege of Toulon.

Napoleon himself mostly redeployed them back into lines before engagements with a few exceptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21928137
Fuck I mean "non-smooth".
But yes, my point is the increase in fire rate that lead to the end of line infantry, not "Napoleon keikaku"

>>21928156
That's still not how line formations ended. Columns had a point, but the line was preferred

[Anonymous No.]

I think its time for /nasa/ to start working independently without a centralized authority. They still have to follow the law. Except now they have independence of their funds and resources. I understand this means whatever bakeries we open up will be independently owned. As long as they buy parts, supplies, and food from /nasa/ then /nasa/ still makes a profit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21900458
You would never believe what I stumbled across checking through Mumei's art tag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0c3fDe_pY
I'd have preferred something a bit more intense sounding, but maybe that's just me

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>>21908761
Great picks anon, I'd add:

Facing the Goddess Faithful
https://youtu.be/C_ywF3fp564

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how much money we can make printing lewd doujins of chuubas in this world.

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>>21929710
Not to be a doomposter, but that may be the way the grand directive falls, and also how you get /meat/ (and other) cultists to influence your ranks.
>>21931665
/horni/ already does this, hell, it may be their primary source of income. I know some merchants that go there to sell any prototypes they acquire for them to be copied and resold across the continents.

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>>21932506
Its always the Grand Directive. We can't expand more because Grand Directive. We can't settle for too long because Grand Directive. We shouldn't trade because Grand Directive. Grand Directive is absolute law. Etc. Etc. The Grand Directive never planned for /nasa/ to be truly alone. It always assumes there's an inter-galactic civilization you can phone whenever something goes wrong. It demands that you be dependent on inter-galactic civilization infrastructure and follow their rules. But what happens when there's no more intergalactic civilization to depend on? You have to find a way to settle a new homeworld. Its going to be generations before the station can fly. Which means we're going to be stuck on this rock for a long time unless by some miracle we get in contact with Starfleet. I hate Starfleet because they're discord redditors.

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>>21933237
It's also because /nasa/ was even allowed to have technology due to the Grand Directive. If you backtrack from it or relax, expect to be nerfed into oblivion tech-wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21933924
Hmm not /nasa/ but I feel like their technology advantage was allowed because all of that technology is unusable or gimped, not necessarily the GD.

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>>21934022
GD is why it can't also be spread or replicated. If you say 'unusable or gimped', they seem to be planning a technological renaissance anyways, so that's out of the window too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21933924
The big mistake of ditching the Grand Directive entirely is that it means sharing technology with natives. We still need some rules in the Grand Directive to prohibit sharing technology. The big rule in the Grand Directive being challenged right now is the ban on mating with natives. The idea is that if you breed with enough and import non-Sanalites then non-Sanalites will take over /nasa/ via demographic replacement. Sanalites are pretty much real world humans with their genetic diversity. That said the Grand Directive's breeding ban will be challenged someday as more Sanalites are born in /nasa/ that are allergy resistant. They will eventually want to go out with natives someday. And eventually they'll vote to remove the entire Grand Directive if we don't loosen up restrictions. I'm not proposing to ditch the entire directive. We do not want to give nukes to our enemies. What I'm proposing is a way to amend the directive in a way that is flexible with our situation.

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>>21933237
Oh, so you're one of those who only obeys the rules when it's easy then? If the Grand Directive is only followed when it's convenient, then it's about as absolute as an architect making a new year's resolution to lose a few pounds. Now is the time when your loyalty is truly being tested, your commitment to your nation and to your people. To falter now would be the ultimate sign of disrespect, an indication that you never planned to follow the GD at all. Now is the time stand up and say that it doesn't matter how hard things get, disrupting this planet's civilizations is wrong and must be avoided at all costs! Your patience will be rewarded, and Sana will provide for those who keep faith. Do not fail us now.

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>>21934476
Impeach the principal. Remove him from power. He clearly doesn't deserve his position to lead us anymore.

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>>21934820
The /nasa/ civil unrest arc is confusing, I'm not sure if it's RP, actual internal strife or shitposters kek.

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>>21877891
Due to his behavior with allowing natives in his bedchambers it is clear that the Principal lacks faith in Sana. The Grand Directive is an absolute law for a reason. It is to protect the natural underdeveloped world from /nasa/'s influence and exploitation. Mr. Principal I would consider your next words carefully as the next thing you say will provoke a mutiny which will end in your execution. If you wish to remain in power then you will enforce the absolution of the Grand Directive. If you wish to no longer support the Grand Directive then you are free to resign, and you are free to leave the colony. Just remember you will never be allowed back inside if you leave now. I will hear no more arguments from you. The court has made its decision. Dismissed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21934444
>quads of death
You may have your plans, but Kek has spoken

[Anonymous No.]

>>21936111
sorry anon his quads of quads are stronger than your trip, he wins this time

[Anonymous No.]

This /nasa/ arc is really interesting.

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>>21934444
Is the goal here not to leave this planet expediently and with as little impact as possible? Worrying about what our great-grandchildren will want to mate with is irrelevant because we should be making plans to be long gone by then. And making changes to such sacred laws to accommodate those who haven't even been born yet seems foolish.

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>>21936566
The fact of the matter is time. My estimates on repairing the station is at minimum a 99 year project. The reason for this is because we have to build infrastructure to build the specific parts of the station to make it deep space worthy. We lack the materials and the personnel to make repairs happen faster. Even with Vitubium research. The more Sanalites that are born on this planet then the more Sanalites will choose to stay on this world as it is their home. There are also many stations before us that have declared new homeworld bases. This is how we get space-trade relays from solar system to solar system. By the time we repair the station the world will have already been altered by our presence. This does not mean we will share technology with the natives. However the natives have already seen our technology in action with the launch. And many of them are inspired by it. While we will not help natives develop rocket engines they are already interested in making them. In a way we failed the Grand Directive already by allowing natives to witness our rockets.

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 4 is out: https://rentry.org/Melisende
I tried to keep the chapters more balanced in terms of plot and length, but it ended up being as long as the first 3 combined. I hope it's still an enjoyable read despite that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21938232
Going in anon, been looking forwards to this.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it wrong that I like the Grand Directive debates because we're seeing old men arguing about whether or not the kids can fuck shark and squirrel girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21938232
I enjoyed that, it's pretty funny how welcoming and nice BDSM clubs are IRL as well. Though those tend to skip the cannibalism. I chuckled at the watamelonian cameo. Fun fact, thinking about it, deadbeat blood would probably be noticeably sweeter than normal blood, since the concentration of all compounds used by muscles is higher, including blood sugar...
Don't drink the tea, Mel...

[Anonymous No.]

kfp drawfag here, picrel is a small teaser for the upcoming kfp army structure diagram
My original approach was a completely manual drawing, but this was incredibly time-consuming and frankly boring.
So after some research I found a website where you can generate NATO Insignia, including STANAG APP-6 D
https://spatialillusions.com/unitgenerator/

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>>21940124
These look good anon. How literal is the Assault Phoenix designation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21940786
think of a Falconer with his bird, except in this case the cute birb can Self-immolate in a flash fire and with the right training this bird can do so on command...
In modern terms, probably something like a... Renewable Autonomous Precision guided Loitering Ammunition with a low-yield Napalm Warhead??
Saint Olga would approve
>“Give me three pigeons,” she said, according to the Primary Chronicle, “and three sparrows from each house. I do not desire to impose a heavy tribute, like my husband, but I require only this small gift from you, for you are impoverished by the siege.”
>The Chronicle records in great detail the feat of precision-guided pyromania that followed:
>“Now Olga gave to each soldier in her army a pigeon or a sparrow, and ordered them to attach by thread to each pigeon and sparrow a piece of sulfur bound with small pieces of cloth. When night fell, Olga bade her soldiers release the pigeons and the sparrows. So the birds flew to their nests, the pigeons to the cotes, and the sparrows under the eaves. The dove-cotes, the coops, the porches, and the haymows were set on fire.
>“There was not a house that was not consumed, and it was impossible to extinguish the flames, because all the houses caught on fire at once. The people fled from the city, and Olga ordered her soldiers to catch them. Thus she took the city and burned it, and captured the elders of the city. Some of the other captives she killed, while some she gave to others as slaves to her followers. The remnant she left to pay tribute.”

[Anonymous No.]

Got a story drafted up. Just need to proofread and edit it. Should be small enough for two posts.

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subhour bump

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>>21943792
>>21945292
Just saw these in /wg/ and thought they might also be of use to people here who want to add a bit more color to their colorful language.

[Anonymous No.]

Comment of a /nasa/ engineer: "Can't we have one goddamn day at /nasa/ without old farts arguing and causing a catastrophy? I just want to have enough power to sit at home, eat potato chips, drink beer, and play the new Kirby game."

[Anonymous No.]

How well is /who/ and /infinity/ doing for mining? Specifically deep earth mining. I wonder if anyone has advice for mining in general?

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>>21950136
We'll get a hole to hell and invade them from there

[Gramps !np2UIvxwi. No.]

>>21950136
/∞/ mapping is pretty dead on the water except for me and the naval anon right now. Our rep seem to be drown in IRL responsibilities right now.

That being said, I've a recent interest on what precious stones we'd have for lore reasons. I'm an ignorant but I'd believe we'd do pretty good in the mining department. If any geoanon can help me/us about it, we'd be pretty grateful.

[Gramps !np2UIvxwi. No.]

>>21950322
We already have a big hole on the earth to go trough, although you'll need to get pass the giant snake, if our myths are real (preview to a lore dump being written rn)

[Anonymous No.]

>>21950136
Don't dig straight down.
Speaking of, how's /ybc/ doing? We haven't heard from them in a while.

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>>21950567
I'd question the canonity of that, but I won't think too hard about it for now.
>>21950136
For a more serious answer, we'd probably be among the more developed mining nations, steel is rather important to us, you see. That and the mineral richness of the land is too good not to exploit.

[Gramps !np2UIvxwi. No.]

>>21950837
Not canon yet, waiting for the approval of my spit, that's why I put the spoiler and called a preview, although we already have some myth about an underground snake that is close to it.

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>>21950437
>>21950837
I'm not looking for what to mine so much as how to mine. /nasa/ is going to be using wood for support. We're looking for primitive mining advice. As much as we'd love to use graphine we can't make graphine right now. Once we get enough materials to mine and refine shale oil then a new world of opportunity will open for us. Petrol sadly is not viable for 50-75 years right now.

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>>21951047
Would the underground snake be something like the Leviathan/Nidhogg/Orochi? I'm guessing it's because of Boros, you should look up the concept of Chaoskampf in that case, maybe you'll find it helpful.

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>>21951289
Thanks for the reading material recommendation, I will check it out hooman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21951465
No problem, I did put Kronii as the goddess of order in addition to time in the pantheon, so I do wonder how it all fits into a greater system

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>>21951289
I'm getting Jörmungandr vibes personally.

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>>21951636
yeah, I looked into it a bit more and it was that one, the one Thor slew, I haven't read much on nordic mythology to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if /nasa/ has any mythological monsters. If we have a mythos then it'd be a bunch of Sci-Fi cinema, books, and radio shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21884001
I keep trying to get change it but none of the guys in charge of lore archive seem to change it

[Gramps !np2UIvxwi. No.]

>>21951552
>>21951636
Do you anons want to read my unfinished draft of the lore proposal? It's pretty much a WIP rentry. I can post the link here.

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>>21952633
Do it, althought I did just find it by lurking around in your general for a bit, the information corps is hard at work, you see.

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>>21952612
I'm not sure who is responsible for the lore archive, but based on how rentry works I think it's just one guy, pls andastandt. He mostly looks at the posts replying to the lore anchor thread, so I'd reply to that.

[Gramps !np2UIvxwi. No.]

>>21952819
Kek. I just updated it so have the link anyway: https://rentry.org/voc68

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>>21877891
Hey can we get /cig/ changed to /luna/ ? /cig/ has never been used to label the thread the closest was /cij/ but even that was something only a few people were trying to force and was dropped after two threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>21884427
If that was in this thread, I think that would have been me dude. Its nice my obnoxious luna posting meant something to you

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>>21953556
It made me want to hug Luna because she was so sad.

[Anonymous No.]

gentlemen?

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>>21889229
>we can stop /meat/ raiding if we basically conquer them
You know its the only way

[Anonymous No.]

>>21905988
>senior shrine maiden doped up with a berserker mask and a naginata is probably the most dangerous single person on Holocontinent for about 15 minutes.
only for the next two weeks. hopefully

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>>21954138
WARanon in disquise?

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>>21954138
Ah, here are the hardliners I was talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21954138
>>21954577
Not entirely incorrect, although it's good that doing so would be rather difficult, and failure might cost /morig/ its existing power in the northern sea.
plus espionage, sabotage and backroom deals are just so much more interesting... that reminds me to ask if /morig/ has its own intelligence agencies or otherwise underground activities to counter /meat/ cults in other countries

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>>21954138
Have fun going through /meat/'s homeland defense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2DnHMEKgKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH2bSFOBsdM

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>>21955671
I've got this idea that the Goddess Faithful would logically have some kind of inquisitional department that would fill this niche, but I still need to discuss it with the thread. Stay tuned.

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>>21955866
I won't be surprised if /morig/ has an inquisition to ensure that /meat/ cult doesn't take hold on the island. That said, it would be interesting to see if it's also active in other countries, whether they're aware of it or not...

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>>21955942
>>21955866
I suggest the other day that /morig/ have something that is a hybrid of a counter-intel agency and an inquisition

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if /risu/ has a good supply of cork? Cork is a useful material for sealing barrels and insulation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21956119
The religious class has significant political and military power within the country, so its natural that it would have some kind of thing to protect its religious interests from subversion, we just need to put together a proposal.

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>>21956891
"googles cork"

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>>21939474
To be fair, you would probably want a drink if you're in her position, too. How deep can the death of a single deadbeat can go, indeed... by now, she's already aware that if she digs too deep, she might well end up six feet under.
Deadbeat blood is probably easier to tell than normal human blood because of that, true, and I guess me describing it as syrupy is more accurate than originally expected. Even though Mel didn't see any overt cannibalism, it's probably still quite alarming to her that the abbess can tell the rough age of the deadbeat by just a lick.
Of course, it won't stop her track, even if it means the next step of her investigation is going to be more dangerous than ever before...

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>>21957388
Try Googling "cork material". You'll get better results. Also /nasa/ is working on a deal with investing in /risu/'s shipbuilding tools. Can't go over details now. But we want to see Indonesian ships too.

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>>21953069
Interesting stuff. It's always neat to see different cultures' origin myths and interpretations for natural phenomena. Though I wonder how many of the typos are unintentional versus showing the ancient ones' lack of language, lol.
>>21957388
iirc it's a soft, spongy wood material. The thing that wine corks and corkboard are made from, hence the name.

[Gramps !np2UIvxwi. No.]

>>21958666
Typos are me being lazy writing in a second language, please understand.

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>>21955671
I was thinking of writing one based on all the T.Deadbeat accusations that get thrown around. The idea was going to be that there is a core and deadbeats are very effective at infiltration and espionage but they had an incredible overblow reputation which at times would make things easier or make things harder. I was going to write an example as the idea " In the imperial diet entire floor room discussions have been thrown into disarray due to accusations that a members of the floor was a deadbeat in disguise only for after a hour of intense and heated debate did everyone present realize there never was a deadbeat discussion the issue at all" . I never managed to put things together in a way I enjoyed though so I never wrote it
>>21955741
>Have fun going through /meat/'s homeland defense
Oh I hope to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWKm6jDt-BA

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>>21960117
I feel like with the deadbeat's unique physiology that they shouldn't be that difficult to detect or at the very least to confirm or deny once accused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21960503
Trial with a sledgehammer: if your bone doesn't break, you're a deadbeat; if your bone does, then you can bleed out in your innocence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21960503
Ya that was the issue. I wrote about their physiology and some of the details I had made it so they'd end up standing out too much so it kind of killed the intelligence corps Ideas I had going though my head

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>>21960117
kek that's fun, seems more like a diplomacy quirk than an espionage-specific thing, but I guess there's something that is lost going from an anonymous image board to a setting with people. I'll try to integrate it if I end up writing that /morig/ intelligence thing.

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>>21960827
On the other hand, it fits like a glove as the spooky men in black...

[Anonymous No.]

Does /who/ have any decommissioned ships for sale? If /nasa/ is going to build a seaport then we want to have ships that can at least travel from /nasa/ to /who/. /nasa/ is pretty good at recycling. As long as the ship floats we can rebuild it. It'll be cheaper than building new ships from scratch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21962204
We should have, I thought that /nasa/ wasn't going to buy any ships thought, did anything change?

[Anonymous No.]

>>21962359
I'm working out a deal with the Sanalite /nasfaqg/ trader. Before we can take out loans he needs assets. Since we lack the facilities to build ships (wood or aluminum) it will be much cheaper for us to recycle old ships to ship materials to port.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21962359
The principal's trying to make a getaway!

[Anonymous No.]

>>21962755
Robot "Massages" change a motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>21962755
>>21962952
You do know if the principal leaves /nasa/ now without a letter of resignation then he will be exhiled for desertion. They will strip the principal of everything: his suit, his clothes, and his implants, before throwing him outside. For someone deathly allergic to the debris in the atmosphere that is a death sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21963375
roboco pussy would preserve him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21963375
Robot vajayjay thought...

[Anonymous No.]

>>21960117
Hey, sometimes it's >t.ako accusations

[Anonymous No.]

>>21962751
So how is the presence of this Sanalite /nasfaqg/ian being explained anyway? Is he a fellow spaceman who set off after the crash to make his fortune, or perhaps a follower of an almost-forgotten member of the pantheon that bears a striking resemblance to your goddess? Because the former scenario doesn't make a lot of sense, and in the latter case >>21880087
becomes an issue because sharing with a native breaks the GD and I don't see why you would trust this trader to follow the GD more than any other member of /nasfaqg/. For that matter they'd all be pretty unwilling to let any technological secrets you gave them slip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21963444
He'll choke to death before help arrives. Anyway even if the Principal could leave he can't. He's got a skin-tight ankle bracelet that tracks all of his movements. If he steps foot outside the station then the alarms will go off. The bracelet will inject a tranquilizer that will cause the principal to slow down until he passes out. Then D0G-G0!s hunt him down and bring him back to the station. Once recovered the Principal is charged for breaking parole and will be jailed until trial where he will be sentenced with a guilty verdict that strips him of his position and all priveleges. This means no database access, no money, no property, no friends, no freedom. He'll effectively be cancelled from society and forced to live a life of slavery until he pays his debt. /nasa/ might be nice people but we do punish offenders harshly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21964027
kek what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21964066
TL;DR The principal knows if he flees now it will be a futile effort because he has been tagged with the ankle bracelet. Besides he's not the kind of man who runs away from his problems. If he's going to do a week of hard labor because his stupid ass invited a native to his chambers then so be it. He's fortunate to have video evidence that they have done nothing wrong.

>>21963702
It might take a while for a response. I asked the /nasfaqg/ Sanalite in /nasa/ some questions for worldbuilding. I'll figure out how to write him into lore somehow. Its bedtime for me now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21964597
Sanalites are serious business woa.

[Anonymous No.]

One more question for /who/ before I go: how much are you willing to sell decommissioned ships for? We're not looking for galleons. Just moderate-sized ships that can be used for fishing and hauling produce from our farms. This also means we can trade ice-cold beers as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21965293
I don't have an answer for that, we need to have an actual world economy to find that out, I guess the state could pull strings to cheapen the cost out, might require some amount of compromise however, I can't think of anything clever right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21965509
I can see the Republic signing a deal with /nasa/ for some advanced tools, talent exchange and maybe a joint shipyard as well. A initial exchange of ships(and some personnel to train the spacemen how to sail & maintain age of sail ships) from /who/ and tools(or maybe just a simple trade deal for goods) from /nasa/, then an exchange program to design a shipyard(medium-sized, and strictly for civilian/commercial ships) in /nasa/ or /who/. The ships built in the shipyard won't be crazy advanced but they are a quantum leap compared to other nations(steam/chuubanite powered, with refrigeration, bulkheads etc, late 19th century to very early 20th-century tech.). /nasa/ can get some older merchant marine vessels and small gunboats early and would eventually have more modern ships(ofc /who/ would arguably benefit the most).

[Anonymous No.]

>>21965509
It also depends on the ship's condition as well. If the ship has been splintered by too much canon fire then it maybe cheaper to build a new efficient ship with less materials than to rebuild the old ship. Regardless /nasa/ will cover the cost of materials and labor to fix the ship after buying it.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that I'm writing more while looking at the cover pic (>>21847789 picrel), I'm wondering if it's too much to ask for if I want to give some kind of primitive revolver to Melisende. (It's legally required for film noir private eyes to use a snubnosed revolver, after all)
It won't be a proper Colt or anything, probably just a flintlock pepperbox of sort. Maybe it's an imported good from vspo? Maybe they have a chuubanite pan that allows it to light up a few times before having to refill the gunpowder, so that Mel could get a few shots quickly before having to reload every single tube?
I imagine the mechanism would normally be too unreliable (IRL pepperbox flintlock guns have a tendency to fire multiple rounds at the same time) and cumbersome (you would need multiple long barrels on it, and the turning mechanism has to be bigger to rotate them) for military use, but vspo craftsmanship and her personal use made it just functional enough to be a sidearm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21966462
>>21966647
That most certainly would be enough to convince even the most stingy of the Republic, if the deal is such, then there is no reason for us to disagree, you'd easily get a ship and more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21966856
>I'm wondering if it's too much to ask for if I want to give some kind of primitive revolver to Melisende
Well /kfp/ already has Dreyses, which were introduced in 1840s and designed around the same time as colt patented his first revolver.
So not really, this project is meant for fun anyways so a little anachronism is fine, just don't make em too OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21967199
Can you do that with the 1700 general tech level?
Yeah, I think that the pistol is so customised that you can count the expected user base with hands. The idea's that because the turning mechanism (not sure if it would be manual or semi-auto, but it shouldn't matter too much in writing) has to be compact and light enough for concealed carry, the number of barrels is pretty limited (I'm divided between 3 and 4), and they have to also be cut short to fit. This results in the firepower of individual rounds being weaker (since the bullets will have a shorter acceleration length) basically, she'll be pretty boned if she got into a firefight with armoured opponents and/or deadbeats. Combined with high unit cost and the precise mechanism not doing well in muddy or dusty environment, its use is basically limited to close fight or self-defence against sfot targets in urban environment, namely where Melisende usually operates in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21966894
>/who/ can finnaly get something cool
> /inf/ will propably seethe again

Its so tiresome, bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>21967885
This exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beOgmCxeh7A, so I would say yes. But they would be pretty limited in number(aside from being super expensive) and can't be repaired in the field.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21968159
Love that channel, hadn't seen that video, that's cool as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21968143
I say we rape them while wearing a kronii cosplay, maybe that will make them shut up for a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>21968159
It's a cool gun, but unfortunately not what I'm looking for Mel. Basically, I want the revolver aesthetics without breaking the world too much, so a flintlock (that still has to load from the front with paper cartridge - another aesthetic that I happen to like) pistol is better than a breechloading rifle in this case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21968648
I think anon's point was that if something as advanced as what he posted existed, what you're suggesting is probably plausible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>21968687
Well, I looked and I can't find a flintlock pepperbox that dates before late 18th century, so I suspect the turning mechanism might well be more advanced than the breechloader in that video (somehow).

[Anonymous No.]

>>21968734
>flintlock pepperbox
Hmm, I wonder. What engineering expertise I have makes me feel like in the pepperbox design, where you're just rotating the whole barrel and only need the hammer to aligned, shouldn't be terribly complex, at least not enough that period fabrication techniques wouldn't allow it. There are lots of inventions that could plausibly have been invented earlier than they were given the required technology and know-how, but no one had the initial idea.
It's not like a proper revolver where you need rigorous alignment between the revolver and the barrel (And thus more precise fabrication), a pepperbox is basically a bunch of pipeguns affixed to a shaft the user can rotate.

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>>21969081
I think the issue's that it's a flintlock - the thing that needs to be aligned is not the hammer, but rather the pan that holds the gunpowder charge that would be ignited by the flint and, in turn, ignite the charge in the chamber. To prevent the loaded gunpowder from leaking out, the hole had to be small, which means the margin of error would likely be small (regular flintlocks also sometimes fail to fire because the fire just didn't pass through).
My guess is that for a flintlock pepperbox to be anywhere near reliable, the turning mechanism would have to be precise enough to align the pan with the hole, and unlike this world, RL doesn't have chuubanite to make the charge in the pan to fire more than once, so such a design didn't become practical until the late 18th century. Maybe some combination of vspo gunsmithery and /inf/ gears can solve that issue? Melisende might have to wind the gun and pre-load each barrel beforehand, but being able to spray and pray (with like 4 shots within half a minute) probably could save her skin against some deliquents and petty bandits.

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>>21968734
Because pretty much all firearms before the invention and proliferation of percussion caps needed to refill the priming dish. So multi-barreled guns with independently fired barrels really aren't that feasible or make sense(how do you make a mechanism that reliably connects the priming dish with all the barrels?). Most multi-barrel guns you find that are made in the mid-1700s are all turnovers, which can be fired more reliably. I suppose the lack of turnovers with more than 2 barrels until the end of the 18th century(like this? https://www.topfoto.co.uk/asset/3843319/)) is due to the difficulty of making the barrels without machining tools that wouldn't be popularized until the early 19th century(plus there isn't a real need for them, just carry more guns lol). The relative lack of any survuing examples may also mean that they just aren't reliable and were very rarely made. But please do note that I haven't really consulted any scholarly texts and this is mostly just conjecture. A potential way of solving this is to have a system like picrel.

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>>21969363
You make fair points, but looking at an example of such a gun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTz4aMle71I&ab_channel=ForgottenWeapons)) I don't think the problem was alignment. As long as you've got a tiny hole and your priming powder igniting next to it, I think the gun can fire (though as you say reliability can be an issue), but I think the real fabrication challenge would be the mechanism used to load the priming powder and ignite it.
Maybe then the chuubanite can give use a shortcut to easier priming, while leaving the rest of the design untouched?

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>>21969794
Well, the one in the video is hand-rotated with a snap to ensure it aligns, so that solved the alignment issue (although the lock mechanism design is quite interesting). Maybe using it can do away with chuubanite use? (or at least have it that the chuubanite-enriched gunpowder doesn't actually ignite multiple times, just that the more powerful gunpowder makes each shot take less priming powder)

>>21969641
I didn't know how turnover pistol work before now. I guess I'll look into it (or just keep the exact mechanism of her gun ambiguous).

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>>21969960
>or just keep the exact mechanism of her gun ambiguous
Heh, an author's best friend. I think /inf/ is a good fallback if nothing else, tech to make proper steel gears enables you to make all the mechanisms we've discussed.

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>>21968143
You are the one starting shit hoonigga.

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>>21970860
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>>21968595

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Ahh my autism is finally sated with the LOD system, I get to move on to the next thing.
>The first /risu/ tree

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>>21972591
actually is /mep/, but don't tell em that.

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Chapter 5 is out: https://rentry.org/Melisende
This is a relatively short and calm one, and I reckon that a bit of comic relief would be able to soothe the rather alarming events that will transpire.
I would say it's like sorbet for the palate, but sometimes film noir prose is a bit too hard to take seriously.

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In an alternate universe not too different from our own, deadbeats have invaded /meat/ in an attempt to eradicate them through Holy War.
A lone deadbeat wonders the unknown /meat/ forests, the sole survivor of a platoon that got ambushed during the night. Twisted from witnessing his friends and comrades mauled to death, and blaming his Goddess for abandoning them, he treads on a path for revenge...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d75pTah_Q_o
Listening to the lyrics of this song, this was the first scene that came to mind. Someone could write a decent short story about this, I have some ideas but my writing skill is pretty bad.

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>>21974142
i am so disoriented I read that title as 'lean mask'

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>>21974620
Not to agitate our resident deadbeats, but that's not entirely unrelated

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pump

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>>21976738
Pump indeed

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Keeping /vtwbg/ alive.

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>>21979134
Yes

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>>21968143
Remember the timeline. Advanced ships with motors aren't going to happen for decades. Even /nasa/'s aluminum alloy ships are going to use sails.

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>>21968143
>blaming /∞/ for everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

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Some story behind /nasa/'s merchant. He is a close business partner with the principal. He was the Sanalite that took account of all the resources in /nasa/ after the crash. He helped the Principal allowcate resources efficiently. He only recently joined /nasfaqg/ officially. He's in favor of starting independent companies to manage resources better than centralized command. Which will end the strikes as they will no longer need direct orders to operate. Say what you will about the Principal. The merchant is fully aware of the Grand Directive and the punishment of exile if he disobeys it. So far his business plan is to use manufactured tools and ships as collateral. He's against using technology secrets and blueprints as assets. The company will manage the shipyard and port. The only government operations to the port will be policing, emergency services, electricity, telecom network, water treatment, and medical. I think that's the long and short of the deal.

Sanalite /nasfaqg/ merchant is also interested in taking over deals to /risu/ in supplying shipbuilding tools and pine tar. The less /nasa/'s government are involved with dealings the better.

/nasa/ became a police state again just because the Principal made a new friend that Mozzies spread false rumors of him fucking her.

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>>21877891
Addition to /who/'s general lore, this is a sweet one:

Foodstuffs/ (or maybe under a new religious activities section)
Due to the Nameless One's affinity for sugary treats, festivals dedicated to the Nameless One are heavily associated with sweets. The 3 main types of sweeteners used in the Republic's traditional treats are fruits, honey and beet sugar. The bee farms in the Republic's rural areas provide the nearby villages with pollinators for their orchards and honey to sweeten their cakes. Although the Republic's refineries have massively improved the purity of beet sugar produced in the country, honey and fruits are the most common in rustic, ye olde style of sweets such as honeycake and compote because the association of beet sugar with a foul taste. Newer styles of sweets are made by patissiers in the cities, these kinds of sweets often incorporate new, exotic ingredients like cocoa, brownies and coffee cakes are popular choices for hoomans to enjoy with their caffeinated drinks.

Despite the Republic's reputation for a rather simple style of cooking, placing satiation and nutrition over presentation and flavor, its sweets are some of the best in the world. Weekly fares in towns smell like a giant pastry store, with cakes, biscuits and sweet bread lining the stalls. The public gardens and Fairgrounds in cities would set up carts selling various kinds of candies to the visitors. Even the most impoverished peasants would make sugary desserts during celebrations of the Nameless One. Making and consuming desserts echo the stories told in the scriptures, about the sweet gifts the Nameless One received from the beneficiaries of her knowledge and protection. As the citizenry regards these kinds of communal activities as signals of the progress and prosperity of their society, it's also about giving thanks to the good that civilization brings and to the Nameless One herself.

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>>21984555
Representative here
Nice, talk about a sweet addition. No comments on my part.

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gentlemen. my day off. feelsgoodman

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/vtwbg/ is just one weird game of Endless Legend
>The moored spacefarers
/nasa & Vaulters
>Esoteric god killers
/meat/ & Cult Of Eternal End
>The traders
/nasfaqg/ & Roving Clans
>The hedonists
/infinity/ & Argent Mages
>The friendly ones aiming for unity
Drakken & /voms/

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>>21985339
are we the friendly cavemen?

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>>21985385
EL has the Wild Walkers faction which might fit you guys
Check them out

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>>21985385
friendly arboreal treerats

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>>21985404
THIS LOOKS FUCKING GOOD

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>>21985339
>/meat/head
>actually likes Ardent Mages more and would borrow some elements from them for /meat/
>mfw no Broken Lords

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>>21985730
I feel like Cultist fits better since our MO is about destroying the ̶E̶n̶d̶l̶e̶s̶s̶ corpo chuubas

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>>21985339
/nasa/ sounds a bit more like the Mezari if anything. I wonder what fits /who/ the most, the Kapaku for the siege focus? The United Empire from Endless Space feels more fitting desu

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>>21985890
Custom faction time!

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>>21966462
>he ships built in the shipyard won't be crazy advanced but they are a quantum leap compared to other nations
Doesn't this go against your prime directive ? Also I'm not sure /nasa/ just coming around to boost the tech of other nations is something you should be doing

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>>21987186
>/nasa/ wonders if exposing advanced tech to a primitive world is a good idea
>meanwhile /rbc/ casually uses magic powered robots while /vspo/ have night vision scopes and railguns

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>>21925712
It's important to mention that we are also supposed to be a nation that's reducing and reorganizing it's own militarization due to economical needs and all that, having a direct threat to the north means that there's no real reason for that to happen, waiting for thread consensus on schizos is the better choice for now.

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>>21987287
To be fair /rbc/ isn't active thats just members of the thread discussing things. You can bet that if there was a rep for /rbc/ and they were pushing for huge technological advantages there would be some push back

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>>21987186
/nasa/ will share the shipyard with /who/ but we're not going to give /who/ blueprints for our ships. /who/ is allowed to build their ships in /nasa/'s shipyard. Since we don't have diesel the cranes will either be electric (which are not very strong) or hand-powered. Sanalites will only be allowed to operate electric cranes due to their complexity and fragility. That said having a second shipyard to build boats is still a massive boon to /who/. /who/'s main shipyard can be dedicated to military vessels while /nasa/'s shipyard will be used for civilian and trade ships. We'll even contract repairs using our tools to recycle old ships into useable ones.

Another thing to note is that aluminum boats will be absolutely worthless in warfare. Cannons will easily tear through the aluminum hull and sink the ship. While the ships may be fire resistant they can still be easily destroyed. Also an aluminum ship is harder to repair on the spot than a wooden ship. You'll need welding equipment to patch an aluminum ship while patching a wooden boat needs hammers, nails, and tar. /nasa/'s aluminum ships will be useful for taking the northern trade route where there's only schizo raiders who don't have cannons half the time. /nasa/'s gunboats once made can easily pick off the schizo's boats at a distance. The aluminum boats are made for their lightweight and speed. So their primary purpose is to transport goods as fast as possible. Keep in mind aluminum ships won't be available for about 10 or so years. Maybe 15.

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>>21989067
>the best use of aluminium boat would be to melt it down and use the aluminium for other things

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>>21989134
Its a case of using what we have. We might abandon the use of aluminum ships for trade routes entirely. Though they'll still be useful for local fishing boats. Once we get enough capital* to make diesel engines we'll switch to steel boats and submarines.

*Capital doesn't just mean materials. It means the machines needed to refine the materials and form them to the parts we need. Which also means making the parts and the facilities for the machines in the first place. We're not building factories with a few hundred people. So this will be plausible two-generations later if we're lucky.

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In regards to using power tools at the shipyard I think those will be used by Sanalites for now. Power tools are quite dangerous if you don't know how to use them. I think the other nation comfortable with using power tools would be /infinity/ at least. Sanalites can figure out how to work more efficiently with power tools under /who/'s instruction when making and repairing ships. /who/ might still have to provide the materials for building their own ships. And if they don't have enough then /who/ can buy materials. /who/ will still develop their own artillery as they have the know how to build cannons and ammunitions. Also /nasa/ doesn't have much materials to make lots of gunpowder yet. So we can't make cannon ammo.

Its still a good deal because once trained Sanalites with power tools can build a ship with half a crew rather than the fifty needed with hand tools. And perhaps the Hoomans who work there long enough will pick up how to use the power tools themselves. As long as Hoomans don't learn how to build the tools themselves I think we're good. Also most tools used will still be hand tools as we have no easy way of repairing power tools at this time. Especially with the lack of copper. If you have concerns then let me know now. We'll adjust the plan.

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bump

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Page 10 bump.

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We're about six posts away from bump limit. Anyone want to make a new thread once this thread anchors?

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I'll see if I can, although I might be too focused to remember that in time.
Also kind of want to want to ask if anyone from /kfp/ has been reading Melisende's story, since it is set in the Kaiserreich, and the depiction might not be as flattering as they want

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>>21973790
Nice, you got this out just before I went to sleep. I ship them, M airhead is a god tier trope. That's quite the devious plan, I hope that noble is enough of a hanging noob to get fooled.

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>>21995685
after*

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And just like that my plans for today are ruined because of IRL drama. I'll have to edit my story another time. Though I should copy and paste it to open office to make sure there's no grammar mistakes. I do hope that /who/ is okay with our compromises because of the grand directive. I still think another shipyard for civilian ships would be a net gain regardless.

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>>21996196
Sure. You make sure to deal with all you need to. Take care.

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>>21996467
The biggest obstacle is obviously the Grand Directive. I understand why it exists. Its to prevent other nations from growing too quickly to take over the world. Old men wanting to fuck squirrels and sharks aside, the economy is strong yet brittle. So /nasa/'s goal is to export goods that help with quality of life rather than export things that may be used as weapons. I realize I say this as /nasa/ prepares to make coal coke factories. This is also why a medium shipyard was chosen. /nasa/ will help build and repair civilian ships to help trade goods, specifically produce and ice, for all of us. Its also the responsibility of the ship owners to arm those ships with their guns. /who/ cannons will be better than what /nasa/ can scrap together right now.

I think the aluminum alloy ships will be restricted to local fishing boats, ice runners, and northern trade route ships. The ships will be designed with speed in mind. Aluminum alloy is lighter than wood. So in theory the sails can push the ships faster. That said the ships will have a handling problem. /nasa/ is currently researching how to make these ships safer by creating small prototype models. The models are very cute tiny ships the size of a rubber duckie. They float in a pool with fans that blow, simulating the ocean wind. The ships' steering are remote controlled with a controller wheel that has reactive tension. Meaning the harder it is to turn in the current, the harder the controller reacts. Remote control sailboat racing is quickly becoming a new pastime. Hell sailboat racing might even become a sport between /who/ and /nasa/. Thoughts?

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>>21997335
RC Sailboat racing? that sounds fucking cool.

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>>21984555
>Despite the Republic's reputation for a rather simple style of cooking, placing satiation and nutrition over presentation and flavor, its sweets are some of the best in the world.
That's a pretty bold claim considering your neighbors.
>>21983653
The main issue I see with this backstory is the uncertainty of the timeline. How much time has passed between /nasa/'s crash, the station unfolding, and the present day again? This merchant setting off and happening to make it big is one thing, but to be of use to you he would need to have developed connections, started a company, hired workers, gathered a fleet of ships, etc. all by himself in the time he's been gone.
>The merchant is fully aware of the Grand Directive and the punishment of exile if he disobeys it.
How much of a punishment is that exactly if he's already settled in /nasfaqg/?

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>>21997630
The rules I think would be simple. Rule 1: No motors nor paddles allowed. Only the wind and currents can move your ship. Rule 2: The ships have to be made from materials possible for life-sized sailboats. The materials approved so far are fiberglass*, wood, and aluminum alloy. Rule 3: The boat cannot capsize unless it hits a tidal wave bigger than the ship. Rule 4: This ship has to be able to accurately mimic naval maneuvers in real life. Including sail pulling. Rule 5: The controller has to mimic the steering wheel and rope pulleys of the ship, including mimicking tension of currents and winds pulling the rudders and sails. Each ship has to be inspected and run through rigorous tests to qualify for official races.

*Fiberglass is restricted to small class ships like kayaks and single person sailboats.

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New bread (now with 30% less gluten): >>21998061

>>21998196
No love for oars?

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New bread (now with 30% less gluten): >>21998061

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>>21997706
If you need a timeline its simple. /nasa/'s crash happened since the thread's creation. Which is when Sana debuted. The ship unfolded at the end of March, or the last month of winter/first month of spring depending on your calendar. Honestly I'd rather the Sanalite have history in /nasfaqg/ since the crash as a side business. But this is his lore. I'll ask him to see if he can clarify is lore here when he comes back. As for exile, /nasa/ will hunt you down to take their stuff back. The suits and bread dogs are not yours. They belong to the station. You wear these suits under terms and conditions. Also eventually the air filter in the suit will clog or break down. And those filters can only be made in /nasa/ station at this time. Plus it'd be stupid to turn on /nasa/ without means of sustaining yourself first. That said, I'm not ruling out the possibility of the Sanalite /nasfaqg/ merchant being one of the lucky ones with a strong enough constitution to breathe the atmosphere unfiltered.