/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Hakos Baelz - 525K subs


Nanashi Mumei - 616K subs
Ouro Kronii - 698K subs

explain this /vt/

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Awful low-quality talents vastly over-promoted despite being lazy and unwatchable

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Big boob and forgor is more appealing than rrats

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>>22109518
I can't explain that I think Bae is pretty cool, maybe just a bad spin on the youtube recs :/

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>why do the ones that appeal to redditors have more subs

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Baelz has the most annoying personality in EN

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>>22109518
bae lost her most sincere fans on that apex stream. Now she has to chase clicks from clipfags.

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Nepotism hires and "talents" with zero ambition besides making bank.

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>>22109518
Baelz was kinda shit when she debut. I honestly didn't think she would make it.

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>>22109935
>Kiara has the most annoying personality in EN
ftfy

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>>22109518
>kronii, normies and redditors were attracted by the coom bait but forgot to unsub
>mumei: also redditors

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>>22109518
It's time to go back to your little discord server, councilschizo.

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>>22109868
You know what, let me double dip for a second

I think Mumei's insanity is fresh air on the EN side, she's no Haachama but no one in EN is really doing the whole "I'll eat your liver and take little bird shits on your forehead :33" style of crazy yet

And Kroniii.... The Kronester... Tits and she hates them. People like seeing the internal conflict, it's a very easy story to follow.

Bae's energetic or chill when needed but nothing that stands out from the crowd, fucking funny I really do like her streams but overall just feels milk toast from the broad perspective

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The greatest trick Hololive ever pulled was convincing schizophrenic retards on /vt/ that subscriber counts correlate with quality.

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>>22110140
im not a schizo, i just dont understand how the gap is so wide, not that one is way worse than the other

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>>22110154
Gonna triple dip get my spit all over the god damn chips and ranch:

All three of them are entertaining, I do not think any are underserving of their spot or a fluke that got placed there. However, they are competing against a market that is so saturated the corpos are starting to burst at the seems

Both of what Mumei and Kronii have going on creates a reason to come back,

Mumei: What crazy shit will happen this time?
Kronii: Have they gotten over being Shadow the Breasthog yet? No? Cool lets try again next week.
Bae: Not really anything, if you don't vibe on your first go around, I can't think of something she does that would call you back

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>>22110624
He doesn't watch streams, don't bother replying to a thread reader.

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they're all doing very well

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>>22109518
Bae has an annoying voice and an ear rape laugh.
Mumei is boring and barely streams.
Kronii's self-sabotage is too extreme.
Sana would rather draw for chinks.
Fauna is too lazy.

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>>22109518
redditors, aka council viewers, don't like anyone that isn't either a moeblob like mumei/fauna or a "chill" depressed (read: personality of a wooden board) chuuba like kronii

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>>22109984
What happened on the Apex stream?

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>>22109518
normies like kronii because she sounds like amouranth and well thats it

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>>22109518
MATING PRESS

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>>22110154
>Mumei's insanity is fresh air on the EN side, she's no Haachama but no one in EN is really doing the whole "I'll eat your liver and take little bird shits on your forehead :33" style of crazy yet
cringe
Mumei is nothing but a boring white american college girl who tries too hard to look cRaZy and deep. I will never understand why people like her here. I also feel those that do are huffing too much copium.

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>>22110787
Why do you think Bae's subs aren't at the same amount of their colleauges then? Not good form just to say "doesn't watch streams" when there's evidence being presented that they aren't progressing at the same rate

Like a difference of 10k is one thing but why did 100k more people think getting Mumei in the sub box was worth it?

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>>22109518
Susan

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>>22111228
Bruh I do not watch Mumei I think that shit is annoying, but it's different and presented well enough that she can get away with it.

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>>22109518
Australian Time Zone

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>>22109793
FPS2 (first post seething 2 view)

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>>22109518
australian.

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>>22111147
kronii's fanbase is anything but "normal"

>>22109935
she probably has the most well rounded personality in council

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>>22110946
yeah they are, the gap between the sana and the reset makes sense, but the gap between bae/fauna and the others is weird

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>>22109518
I can't believe the one that streams when most English speakers are sleeping or at work/school has the lowest subs

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>>22111639
Am I nuts? I swear most of her streams this past month were evening time US, like late evening some times but stilll

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>>22111794
Most people aren't going to stay up until midnight or 1 am on a Wednesday for the start of a stream.

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>>22109518
She's growing at a fine rate, the other two just have more immediate mass appeal
Bae was initially even lower than Fauna but now she has a 17k sub lead, this rrat is a sleeper hit with a lot of potential, she is really cute, creative, hardworking and is inclining at a steady rate with time.

I genuinely believe all the girls are doing fine besides Sana but that's a whole different beast altogether

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>>22109935
Pretty much this. She acts like a fucking retard.

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>>22109518
I know, it's absurd that Kr*nii is ahead of them.

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>>22111348
>>22111280
This. End of the thread.

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>>22109935
I dunno man I think she is pretty cute, you must be a small pp homo

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>>22112589
cope: the post

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>>22110946
Doing well...
By the time of 6 months Gura, Mori and Amelia both had 1 million subs.

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>>22112191
No I swear most of these are starting like 8pm my time if I'm wrong I'm wrong

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>>22111116
Sucked winning son's cock on stream

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>>22109518
>Ollie 2.0 at the bottom
>Reddit cuck bait in the middle
>Doomer chad at the top

There's nothing to explain.

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>>22112856
Let's create COVID 20 to support Council, so that they can benefit from it like how Myth did on the early of covid pandemic.

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>>22113538
Can it be a nanomachine plague?

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>>22113538
Blame it all on C virus, sure. Gen 5 debuted on the outbreak too and they are nowhere as close in numbers.

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>>22109518
Bae is a sweet girl who doesn't deserve such low-effort bait threads
She is doing fine

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bae doesn't actually understand what being a holo is about, something most people realized early on

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>>22111080
>he doesn't watch streams so the only input he has is based on shitposts
cry more nijinigger

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>>22110261
It's not as uncommon as you think it is, retard

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>>22109518
The rrat is very cute, hardworking and SEX
She just sucks at gaming harder than any other EN which makes it challenging for her to incline in a medium where the main content is game-related
The other two are also just more clipable and memelords which explains the sub gap.
Bae is just a normie girl who tries her best to entertain her viewers despite her limited knowledge of the internet/memes and I find that very endearing, she can pull of some really fun streams in spite of it and is great in collabs

She has improved alot as a streamer since debut and has incredible work ethic and I really respect her for that

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>>22112895
Good for her!

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>>22113838
she's a better holo than the lazy shark whore

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>>22113667
>Gen 5 JP
>Gen 1 EN

Myth grabbed all the normies and blew the hobby up.

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>>22111080
>Fauna is too lazy.
wtf is this alternate universe shit

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>>22109518
>explain this /vt/
>Kronii
MASSIVE model buff, this cannot be overstated, combined with a passable mommy voice and willingness to pander now and then. More than makes up for her lack of interesting commentary, and her failed egotism due to her self-consciousness comes across as gap moe rather than breaking character.
>Mumei
Cute retard effect, similar to Gura, plus she's a decently diligent worker.
>Bae
Hard worker and good stream ideas held back a bit by her wigger slang and accent. Moderate model buff.

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>>22114607
That's true though, can't argue with that. At least Bae brings home the effort.

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>>22111228
> I will never understand why people like her here.
She has the insecure, stupid, feminine qualities of a woman that college age men find extremely endearing and relatable.
Her biggest fans are the kinds of faggots who enjoy spending time with women platonically IRL.

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>>22115058
>Her biggest fans are the kinds of faggots who enjoy spending time with women platonically IRL.
Is

Is that a bad thing?

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I don't understand how people like Kronii's run of the mill fate design. The hair, outfit and extraneous shit slapped onto it look so stupid to me.

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>>22113248
>still trying hard to deflect from reality
Kronii is Reddit’s darling. Mumei is fetish fuel for young men who want to fuck the quirky girl in their chemistry class.

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>>22115118
Yes.
Actual men don’t spend anymore time with women than needed to fuck them.

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>>22109518
Sexual rat.

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>>22115122
The voice compliments it perfectly she's trapped in a body of success

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Kids love the clock's meme shit and her ribbon. The owl is actually Gura. It's hard to compete with that in the current content landscape that's mostly 10 seconds long TikToks

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>>22115175
I tried to text a former coworker a few months ago just to follow up and chat about what had been going on, she lives a couple states away and we only ever worked remotely. She's busy with the kids and her life after running for mayor in her city didn't pan out. I wished her luck and haven't heard from her end since.

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>>22109935
Naw she's cutennoying.

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>>22115122
People get used to it anon. at first i didn't like IRyS, Sana, Fauna, Kronii model too.

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>>22111228
But we don't like her /here/

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>>22109935
Rrat>>>the rest of council

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>>22114836
The thread reader universe unfortunately

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>>22114861
jfc finally a post in this thread that isn't 100% schizo

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>>22114861
>replying seriously on a bait thread by some retarded SEAnigger
I agree with this take

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>>22109518
Moom>Bae/Fauna>>>>clock
Kronii has more subs than the other 3 because of model buff and not getting fucked quite as hard by susan at debut.

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>>22115342
Fuck you’re gay.

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>>22114836
>Nijinigger
>watching streams
The only info about council he has came from antis and schizos

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>>22115996
I think that's really mean

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>>22116146
The truth often is.

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>>22116235
I'm genderfluid pansexual

I get a boner when I'm speaking to a woman in person for more than 5 minutes just from a desire to fuck them, even the actual ugly fujos I just love making people feel good so much

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>>22111228
She's literally just Haachama, but generally quieter/less 'hype' and actually EN.

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>>22116454
become the 41%

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>>22116520
Go cum on your figurines baby boy

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>>22109518
Mumei will pass Kronii in subs before the end of the year if you look at the trends. Kronii has done nothing to keep her streams fresh while Mumei always has a new zany stream every week.

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>>22116612
She has 82k more subs than Moom, dyrbi?

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>>22110624
While Bae doesn't necessarily have a shtick like the others, I think she's just a consistently good streamer. She interacts with chat, does stuff in-game that ends up being funny, and goes on tangents that are really entertaining to listen to. Though I guess this lends to the idea of "if you didn't vibe at first you probably won't ever"

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>>22116612
If things stay the same then nah, not this year. Rate of growth for Mumei is slightly faster but not by much. If trends continue then it'd eventually happen but I both of them would be past the 1 million mark by then

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>>22116557
You keep women as friends. Nothing else about you can make up for that embarrassing fact.

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That's a lot more than Bae deserves to be honest. Streaming constantly and doing many collabs because she's a boring entertainer on her own seems about right why she has over 500k subs.

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>>22117087
It's not that you wont ever it's that there's a million other things calling for your attention, so when the next thing you see is your thing it relies on a person trying to grow to make effort and change what they can if they want to reach others

I don't know if her numbers have plateued yet, if they haven't then she's fine and giving the dice to Susan is a reasonable answer, but yeah if they're flattening out that's not a reason to just say welp trend is done, I'm just not going to make it, time to give up and stagnate

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>>22117172
I'll keep you in a cage, only you

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>>22117313
I’ll bet you have game nights and other get togethers with your gal pals, don’t you, faggot.

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>>22117313
>>22117381
can you two faggots just get a room already?

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>>22117381
Nothing in secret no

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>>22117414
My guy please tell me

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>>22111228
why do you get so mad about white girls? have fun with your hafu son who loathes you for creating him and ends up shooting up a school after 20 years of struggling to cope with being the product of yellow fever.

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she is just annoying, probably more annoying than orange woman

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>>22116612
You are not only overselling the owl creativity but also pretending that minuscule difference in sub growth will not change until the end of the year, is just delusional, all Kronii has to do is play minecraft for a few days or just stream her POV in a few collabs and the gap between will go back to what it was late last year.

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>>22109518
council has some gen2-ness in them
>kronii - ayame
>mumei - aqua
>baelz - subaru
>fauna - choco

if history repeats itself, you'll know where the rat will end up in few years

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>>22118026
Face down on a chiropractor’s table with a towel pulled down below her soft ass?

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Bae is a joy to watch, I especially love her chill streams, she will definitely incline in due time
Council as a whole is great with varied personalities

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>>22109518
the only thing i learned from council is that first impressions are really important and that fucking up your first weeks will probably haunt you for years

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>>22110154
You also forgot that somehow Gura and Mumei interact each other so well that some people think they must be long lost sisters or something. The chemistry is the most natural in EN since amesame.

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>>22109518
Kronii shot up to the top of Council because of her model and voice, and because she had the strongest debut and pandered hard initially before going depressive burnout mode. People find gap moe in the difference between her feigned egotism and her actual self.
Mumei was second place before and after debut, and happened to find her footing before her genmates. She’s Council’s top singer, one of the few who can compete with Gura in sheer weirdness or trade jabs with Haachama. People tune in to hear her sing or to hear her bizarre stream-of-consciousness ramblings. On top of this, she streams almost as frequently as Bae.
Bae was at the top before debut, fell down to fourth after failing to meet audience expectations, and had to claw her way back to third. Her early schedules suffered from trying to pander to different regions, rather than focusing on a specific timeslot.
Most importantly, numbers beget numbers, and Kronii and Mumei got hit less by Susan than the others. Moreover, this means they can more easily pull in casual viewers, attract clippers, and get boosted by the algorithm, like how Mumei’s first Animal Crossing stream keeps showing up in recommended lists.
TL;DR: Kronii and Mumei left a better first impression.

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>>22109935
BRUH

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Bae has the best model out of all of them. She puts the most work in to protect her fans. Im with ya op. The one anon that said AUS timezones made sense.

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>>22117258
>half a million subs
>consistantly good viewership
>not gonna make it

I am utterly baffled what you think the economics of streaming is, even the worst holos are huge in terms of streamers, even Anya is a top% streamer.

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>>22109518
>openly lusts for Roberu's cock
I dunno anon.

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There has literally never been a single entertaining Kronii stream outside of collabs.

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>>22109518
>oh my god bruh

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>>22119363
>like how Mumei’s first Animal Crossing stream keeps showing up in recommended lists.
No kidding. This video seems to have a permanent spot on my sidebar recommended list.

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>>22118607

Ummmm
I think that goes to TimeRyS

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>>22109518
Same issue as Kiara: they need to drop the high pitched loud voice hyper energy act.

Sleepy bae gets more views and fans. Kiara's RM voice is also very attractive. They just need to do a Suisei, bit the bullet, and start using their natural voice.

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>>22125591
To make the inevitable Gura/Mumei comparisons, it’s Council’s equivalent to Gura’s Duolingo stream.

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Mori is Bae's biggest debuff.

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>>22109935
Bae is amazing, precious, and cute as a button. You might be gay.